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leader will take you. it's a gamble. is he an asset? i think he is at the moment, yes. i think_ i think he is at the moment, yes. i think that's — i think he is at the moment, yes. i think that's what it shown here. the liberal democrats have been if you need _ liberal democrats have been if you need to _ liberal democrats have been if you need to hugely from the frailties around _ need to hugely from the frailties around borisjohnson. and then i think_ around borisjohnson. and then i think the — around borisjohnson. and then i think the next step obviously is the cost of— think the next step obviously is the cost of living crisis is only really in the _ cost of living crisis is only really in the foothills. i think when people — in the foothills. i think when people are actually feeling that much _ people are actually feeling that much more, when we go into the autumn— much more, when we go into the autumn when not only the bills going to -o autumn when not only the bills going to go up— autumn when not only the bills going to go up further, energy bills, it's also good — to go up further, energy bills, it's also good to be cold. those numbers from the _ also good to be cold. those numbers from the bank of england yesterday, that is_ from the bank of england yesterday, that is only— from the bank of england yesterday, that is only going to get worse. i think— that is only going to get worse. i think it's — that is only going to get worse. i think it's going to be tougher boris johnson _ think it's going to be tougher boris johnson. , ., ., ., ., , ., johnson. they are not to gamble are the ? it johnson. they are not to gamble are they? it takes _ johnson. they are not to gamble are they? it takes three _ johnson. they are not to gamble are they? it takes three months - johnson. they are not to gamble are they? it takes three months to - johnson. they are not to gamble are they? it takes three months to get l johnson. they are not to gamble are they? it takes three months to get a new leader for _ they? it takes three months to get a new leader for the _ they? it takes three months to get a new leader for the tory _ they? it takes three months to get a new leader for the tory strategists l new leader for the tory strategists are saying to advisers and number ten, shut your eyes and imagine someone else who is in borisjohnson getting off a bus in bridgend, would you be happy campaigning for that person could smack when you're out with borisjohnson, like in and not like him he is a rock star politician who tries to get people going. he does inspire for that yet, he's got weaknesses, we know about them, when he came 90s had them and he still got them. there is a need to almost re—assess your vials with borisjohnson. to almost re-assess your vials with boris johnson-— boris johnson. those bridgend fi . ures boris johnson. those bridgend figures are _ boris johnson. those bridgend figures are interesting. - boris johnson. those bridgend figures are interesting. he - boris johnson. those bridgendi figures are interesting. he was boris johnson. those bridgend l figures are interesting. he was a rock star— figures are interesting. he was a rock star getting off a bridge in bridgend for a while. every rock star has— bridgend for a while. every rock star has a — bridgend for a while. every rock star has a day. maybe it is passed. in star has a day. maybe it is passed. in london— star has a day. maybe it is passed. in london certainly does 19 tory mps, not borisjohnson, they'll be looking saying, he is the right leader for us?— looking saying, he is the right leaderfor us? , ., . ., leader for us? rock star politician. accordinu leader for us? rock star politician. according to _ leader for us? rock star politician. according to some _ leader for us? rock star politician. according to some of _ leader for us? rock star politician. according to some of the - leader for us? rock star politician. according to some of the people i leader for us? rock star politician. l according to some of the people we spoke to overnight as keir starmer is problem is that he's not a rock star politician. somebody said other people, labour people well included said he seems a bit weak. he may not be weak but he seems a bit weak. and was not seen to be inducing people in a way that the party needed and that these results were okay. john curtis said early this morning, they are spectacular results. and on the basis of predicting national share, certainly not translating into what would be a general a recollection of the biggest party in parliament but not a win. is that lack of a rockstar, alleged lack of a rock star quality actually a virtue these days? i star quality actually a virtue these da s? ~ . star quality actually a virtue these da s? ,, ., ., , star quality actually a virtue these da s? ,, ., .,, ., days? i think that was what keir starmer was — days? i think that was what keir starmer was hoping, _ days? i think that was what keir starmer was hoping, that - days? i think that was what keir starmer was hoping, that he - days? i think that was what keir| starmer was hoping, that he was days? i think that was what keir - starmer was hoping, that he was the perfect _ starmer was hoping, that he was the perfect antidote to boris johnson. put it _ perfect antidote to boris johnson. put it into— perfect antidote to boris johnson. put it into context, what came out 2019 _ put it into context, what came out 2019 election it appeared that tabour— 2019 election it appeared that labour were absolutely horrendous position _ labour were absolutely horrendous position that it was probably going to take _ position that it was probably going to take ten years to come back from, so that— to take ten years to come back from, so that was— to take ten years to come back from, so that was a — to take ten years to come back from, so that was a starting point i think the first— so that was a starting point i think the first two years keir starmer print two— the first two years keir starmer print two spent quite a bit of time getting his house in order. it was only the — getting his house in order. it was only the last party conference that spent _ only the last party conference that spent most of the time on internal rule changes. there's been a bit ofm _ rule changes. there's been a bit ofm maybe _ rule changes. there's been a bit of... maybe this is the plan, two years— of... maybe this is the plan, two years sorting your house out that of course _ years sorting your house out that of course covid, party gate, ukraine. dave _ course covid, party gate, ukraine. dave said — course covid, party gate, ukraine. dave said a — course covid, party gate, ukraine. dave said a lot of things coming from _ dave said a lot of things coming from different directions. maybe if the next _ from different directions. maybe if the next two years this is the real keir starmer, this is the policy, this is— keir starmer, this is the policy, this is the — keir starmer, this is the policy, this is the pizzazz, that's perhaps what _ this is the pizzazz, that's perhaps what he — this is the pizzazz, that's perhaps what he is — this is the pizzazz, that's perhaps what he is going to have to bring a bit more _ what he is going to have to bring a bit more of— what he is going to have to bring a bit more of that out. that is what our readers — bit more of that out. that is what our readers are looking for. we think— our readers are looking for. we think is— our readers are looking for. we think is great, solid, sensible but let's have — think is great, solid, sensible but let's have a — think is great, solid, sensible but let's have a little bit of oomph now — let's have a little bit of oomph now. , ., ., a let's have a little bit of oomph now. , ., ., ., now. the question i asked earlier about whether _ now. the question i asked earlier about whether boris _ now. the question i asked earlier about whether boris johnson - now. the question i asked earlier about whether boris johnson is l now. the question i asked earlier| about whether boris johnson is an about whether borisjohnson is an asset to labour and is keir starmer seen as an asset to the tories? years according to tories i speak to. they think he's not very political. i think he went too hard on your party gate story saying it resigned to rishi sunak and boris johnson. when he may have known that question marks of his own drinking a beerin question marks of his own drinking a beer in durham within office. he's went too hard and now he's got to work out where he goes next with that. it is not answered any of your questions when he spotted today, whether he will resign or it gets a five. that's a big issue he's got. it is making good tax onjohnson over attacks, it is making good tax onjohnson overattacks, he it is making good tax onjohnson over attacks, he saying i would cut taxes for people on low wages which is what of course hasn't done. he's navigating around johnson, he's got a good team him from they want to be empowered to, that's the port of being in politics, isn't it? yes and ou think being in politics, isn't it? yes and you think for _ being in politics, isn't it? yes and you think for an _ being in politics, isn't it? yes and you think for an opposition - being in politics, isn't it? yes and you think for an opposition party l being in politics, isn't it? yes and. you think for an opposition party to be against the government where government qualities have been called into question integrity, trust and honesty which i must say pretty big concepts to be called into question. then you have a cost of living crisis, inflation at io%, possible inflation around the corner, people saying very openly that the help that's on offer so far with household bills, is not enough but it's not enough. in opposition party should be in a position to capitalise more on that. share party should be in a position to capitalise more on that. are we seeinu capitalise more on that. are we seeing matt? is _ capitalise more on that. are we seeing matt? is not _ capitalise more on that. are we seeing matt? is not the - capitalise more on that. are we seeing matt? is not the big - capitalise more on that. are wel seeing matt? is not the big 90s. capitalise more on that. are we - seeing matt? is not the big 90s. he is not tony blair. when tony blair was really on the charge in 95, 96 and that that's not happening. i do and that that's not happening. i do think we have _ and that that's not happening. i do think we have to remember he's coming — think we have to remember he's coming from a very poor, very difficult — coming from a very poor, very difficult position at 2019. he has made _ difficult position at 2019. he has made some headway but like you say, there's— made some headway but like you say, there's treen— made some headway but like you say, there's been big stories for him to capitalise — there's been big stories for him to capitalise on. can there's been big stories for him to capitalise om— there's been big stories for him to capitalise on. can we take a pause was back pp _ capitalise on. can we take a pause was back up and _ capitalise on. can we take a pause was back up and talk— capitalise on. can we take a pause was back up and talk about live . was back up and talk about live dams, greens and let's share the riches. thank you both for now. let's catch up with the rest of the days news. shaun ley. ukrainian soldiers defending a steelworks in the southern city of mario poe have accused russian forces of bridging a cease—fire designed to enable the evacuation of more civilians. ajoint designed to enable the evacuation of more civilians. a joint operation designed to enable the evacuation of more civilians. ajoint operation by the united nations and the international red cross is under way there also calls for the soldiers defending the plant to be allowed to leave. our correspondent delivers from the northwest of mario poe. kremlin backed troops still fighting on this vast steel plant according to uk intelligence while ukrainian soldiers and hundreds of civilians shelter inside. they've been using this sprawling network of tunnels as a refuge for more than two months. very little food or water. around 100 women and children have already been rescued from the depths of the plant. there is operation to save now please to try and make want last stand for the city. saigon is only son is there, she doesn't want to be identified protect them. it’s identified protect them. it's horrible. — identified protect them. it�*s horrible, horrible to know that your son is fighting and has nothing left to fight with in a city that is completely raised to the ground and seized by the occupiers. i would give everything in exchange for him to survive. for everyone who is still there under the bombardment to survive. we beg, we beg all the world countries help us and save our heroes. it's not them who are complaining and begging, it's us. svetlana was complaining and begging, it's us. svetla na was ordered complaining and begging, it's us. svetlana was ordered by her son to flee as the russian bombs leveled this once thriving port. ukrainian officials claim more than 20,000 people have been killed. the relatives of others still fighting can't bear to see these images. her husband and her two sons in law are also in the ukrainian as all unit. translation: every image is a wound in my translation: every image is a wound in nty heart— translation: every image is a wound in my heart and in my soul. every time, _ in my heart and in my soul. every time, nty— in my heart and in my soul. every time, my wish is that they will survive — time, my wish is that they will survive this. of course they will keep— survive this. of course they will keep fighting, they are holding on, they are _ keep fighting, they are holding on, they are doing the impossible. outnumbered and outgunned the small defending force has become a potent symbol for ukraine. they may never surrender but they are due families are praying they'll get a chance. the convenience store mccall's is putting 16,000 jobs at risk. tonight there's hope of rescue deal being put together by the billionaire brothers who co—own both of our business correspondent emma simpson reports. from its first shop in glasgow in 1901 to a network of more than a thousand stores. mccoll�*s is a familiar name in our high streets. shopping locally has never been more popular than during the pandemic, but mccoll�*s has found the going tough. here in stevenage, shoppers say it's handy but don't buy very much. ijust get my newspapers here and ijust like them because they're available, you know, they're always regular. we're just heading in now to get a birthday card and a drink, a quick grab and go. yes. good service. not always got what you want. even before covid, convenience stores have been a bright spot here on the high street. but mccoll�*s has been too slow to adapt and providing more of a one—stop shop. it's also had long running supply chain problems struggling to get stock, a business with too much debt, finding it harder and harder to make money. morrison's, already in a partnership with mccoll�*s, put in an offer for the chain overnight, but it's the owners of this vast petrol station group who now look set to buy the business. the underlying business at mccoll�*s is over a thousand convenience stores in pretty decent locations. and really now in the future it's just a question of getting the range right and the pricing right to see the business flourish well into the future. mccoll�*s staff were told today that going into administration would hopefully mean that the business and colleagues would transfer across to a new owner. a deal could be done by monday. emma simpson, bbc news, stevenage. buckingham palace has announced that prince andrew, prince harry and his wife meghan will not make appearances on the royal balcony during the trip in the coloured ceremony marking the queens platinum jubilee next month. buckingham palace at two only in clued royals carrying out real duties was taken after consideration. the duke and duchess of sussex 80 they and their children will attend other celebration injune as part as the officialjubilee of events. if you want to find out the election results in your area just said to the bbc news weight website where you can enter your postcode. there's also of election analysis in the latest reports from other teams covering around the uk. back to elections 2022. welcome back. thanks to shaun ley for the latest on the news. can i show you this result from saint burns? this will tell us something about the story of the day as well. the lid tends, a very big lib dem stronghold, saint auburn is been held by the lib dems, that's no surprise because a live dams have had a very good local election. but let's look at the actual result. 50 seats to the lib dens in save auburn as well seeing second batch a dramatic improvement on their position, four seats to the tories and then independents and greens want let's look at the change since last time around. look at that. now, thatis last time around. look at that. now, that is what you call a turbo—charged boost by the lib dems, putting on 20 seats. look at that conservative performance was up down 18 seeds in a part of the country that yes, of course it's quite affluent, it's quite a remain kind of part of the world so you build that in as well in terms of the kind of demographic nature of it. but thatis of demographic nature of it. but that is still a startling results for the tories where they've been excuse me for using the word, a wallop they been in st albans. with that in mind, what i'd like to do is to talk to our regional political editor in bristol. we are still in the lead libjab editor in bristol. we are still in the lead lib jab theme the performance of the lib dems in your region and specifically in specifically in somerset in that new authority which we were talking about earlier today because they are again it was a very strong lib dem performance. talk us through that. it's surpassed all expectations, surpassed all productions. the conservatives had run the county of somerset county council level for 13 years. the last time it was up is 2017 and got a solid majority then. backin 2017 and got a solid majority then. back in 2019 the most recent election for the calories when districts went to the polls with the people remember there was a bad year for teresa mae and conservatives in the local elections. in a particular instance, the local democrats took three of the four district councils. they were going well then but we had a general election months later, the lib dems didn't do well at all. it's a county where where they once were so strong you think back to those times to where they held most of the parliamentary seats in somerset, did really well across the west country, that all hit the buffers back in 2005 at the end of the coalition, they were wiped off the map in terms of parliamentary seats in the west country. it didn't looking for a way back. this election they went into it a long way behind the conservatives in terms of the countywide vote last time they hope to make real progress, they thought they might end up is the biggest party but what they actually got was a big solid majority. the tories were really pumped across the county, it was a bad result for them. if you look at the other parties, labour, very small in somerset state where they were, there is half the green cows are, no real change there, a few independents again, no real change, it was a lib dems going forward the conservatives going backward very badly. conservatives going backward very badl . , ., , ., badly. the question is, how concerned _ badly. the question is, how concerned are _ badly. the question is, how| concerned are conservatives badly. the question is, how i concerned are conservatives in badly. the question is, how - concerned are conservatives in the west of england about the prospect and the general election faced with and the general election faced with a resurgent lib dem party? what are they saying to you?— they saying to you? interesting, i was talking to — they saying to you? interesting, i was talking to one conservative i they saying to you? interesting, i i was talking to one conservative mp yesterday is saying, on the one hand, five years ago yes, we did really well in local elections here but then three years ago we had a pretty dire at night. he was saying we can expect these ups and downs, putting it onto a bit of midterm blues but that was before the results came in. i don't think he was expecting, i don't think any of the conservatives in somerset were expecting it to be as bad as it really was. so they will be worried because it's this sense of resurgence against the conservatives. in the other parts conservatives. in the other parts conservatives have held their ground to quite a degree against labor. they really gone backwards where they're up against the lib dem. if you look at the road actually the m5 to cheltenham where half the seats were being contested there, the lib dems already ran that council. what we saw today was the conservatives slipping backwards even more. and that will be a real concern to the conservative mp there who sits on a very marginal majority. i would say for conservative mps, it's a real worry. some trying to say this is just a midterm ripple, if you like, people expressing their discontent. i know when i was out in somerset talking to people i met quite a b who said, yes, i would normally vote conservative but because of what's going on naturally i'm not going to this time. ., ., ~ going on naturally i'm not going to this time. . ., ~' , ., , this time. paul, thank you very much. indeed _ this time. paul, thank you very much. indeed looking - this time. paul, thank you very much. indeed looking across . this time. paul, thank you very i much. indeed looking across the this time. paul, thank you very - much. indeed looking across the west of england at the lib dem performance there and following on from what i was saying about st albans. i know you know the st albans. i know you know the st albans area pretty albans. i know you know the st alba ns area pretty well albans. i know you know the st albans area pretty well the west country in many ways offers some useful folly for us. how concerned should conservative mps be about the lib dem threat in this parts of the world? �* , ., ., , ., world? berry. the landgrab or starts it is been doing _ world? berry. the landgrab or starts it is been doing in _ world? berry. the landgrab or starts it is been doing in the _ world? berry. the landgrab or starts it is been doing in the red _ world? berry. the landgrab or starts it is been doing in the red walls in i it is been doing in the red walls in wales and elsewhere is the concern is the seeds in the core grassroots part of the country where the tories have been so strong are being forgotten about. st albans is also a remain story, i think. daisy cooper there, great mp, lib dem been a strong team of campaigners was that i think they do really well. somerset is a worry. the mp for yeovil is now calling tonight for a change in economic strategy, he's not sure about personalities but he thinks the policy is wrong on taxation. that area is where the new headache for boris johnson taxation. that area is where the new headache for borisjohnson going next week is what are we doing here, we are losing sight of these areas. time and again overnight talking to conservatives who were feeling the pain and even earlier today i think we are talking earlier, same kind of message, there needs to be more help for people, taxation policy is wrong, national insurance policy misguided, if there is to be extra help it needs to beat now, not waiting for the budget, there is no kind of time to lose especially given the fact that people are signalling a bit of a crisis going on. first of all, you kick off with this one. is that likely? we had rishi sunak saying it would be silly to start off doing that offering more help to people we know it can happen in the autumn. he explained that very clearly in his thinking was very clear on that. is he can have to revisit that? the was very clear on that. is he can have to revisit that?— was very clear on that. is he can have to revisit that? the budget in november is _ have to revisit that? the budget in november is after _ have to revisit that? the budget in november is after the _ have to revisit that? the budget in november is after the huge - have to revisit that? the budget in i november is after the huge increase likely in the 1st of october. that figure is set in august. the hot money is on intervention, physical intervention by the government in september. looking into the party conferences and there's no way the tories will go through all the party conferences with the lib dems in labour and have no answer to the huge increase in energy prices in october. going back from that, looking at the reshuffle in september, looking at three difficult elections for by elections for different reasons, also some tory mps feel there's a need to renew files with their leader, that can't come soon enough. the pressure ed davey lost two stone, looking punchy, looking sharp, is an interesting thought for the tories was that they were disregarding a few months ago but not anymore. if few months ago but not anymore. if they did underestimate, they've done it out there because havoc they really? were you expecting to see the lib dems coming back with this kind of strength? i the lib dems coming back with this kind of strength?— the lib dems coming back with this kind of strength? i think throughout lib dem history _ kind of strength? i think throughout lib dem history they've _ kind of strength? i think throughout lib dem history they've always - kind of strength? i think throughout j lib dem history they've always been there _ lib dem history they've always been there is a _ lib dem history they've always been there is a place people go to when they are dissatisfied with the other two options. that's always there. but certainly they probably have exceeded perhaps their own expectations on this occasion. it's a long _ expectations on this occasion. it's a long way— expectations on this occasion. it's a long way for people who are very cross _ a long way for people who are very cross with — a long way for people who are very cross with the conservatives to go all the _ cross with the conservatives to go all the way — cross with the conservatives to go all the way to labour even at this point _ all the way to labour even at this point as— all the way to labour even at this point. as we set as well, the hangover— point. as we set as well, the hangover of brexit still lingers and we know— hangover of brexit still lingers and we know that a lot of those st albans — we know that a lot of those st albans and other related areas, that's— albans and other related areas, that's where the conservatives have -ot that's where the conservatives have got difficulties. as of the lib dem is there _ got difficulties. as of the lib dem is there as — got difficulties. as of the lib dem is there as an opportunity. that's interesting — is there as an opportunity. that's interesting. there's also this issue that boris— interesting. there's also this issue that borisjohnson is really facing now with — that borisjohnson is really facing now with conservative parties difficulty— now with conservative parties difficulty in appealing to a law of the old — difficulty in appealing to a law of the old guard. this idea that more people _ the old guard. this idea that more people who may have left school at 18 are _ people who may have left school at 18 are now — people who may have left school at 18 are now more likely to vote conservative that people with degree level, _ conservative that people with degree level. may _ conservative that people with degree level, may be going to labor. seems like the _ level, may be going to labor. seems like the old — level, may be going to labor. seems like the old ideas have been turned upside _ like the old ideas have been turned upside down. sometimes for want of a better— upside down. sometimes for want of a better work. _ upside down. sometimes for want of a betterwork, borisjohnson upside down. sometimes for want of a better work, borisjohnson is really failing _ better work, borisjohnson is really failing in— better work, borisjohnson is really failing in posh areas. they are going — failing in posh areas. they are going to — failing in posh areas. they are going to lib dems. there is unless something — going to lib dems. there is unless something significant changes and perhaps— something significant changes and perhaps september is too long way, it's going _ perhaps september is too long way, it's going to be quite difficult. if there _ it's going to be quite difficult. if there is— it's going to be quite difficult. if there is an _ it's going to be quite difficult. if there is an intervention before september and there is an intervention before septemberand then there there is an intervention before september and then there is more party— september and then there is more party finds, is that momentum that we've _ party finds, is that momentum that we've seen it earlier in the early game _ we've seen it earlier in the early game or— we've seen it earlier in the early game or speed?— we've seen it earlier in the early game or speed? we've talked to the chief secretary _ game or speed? we've talked to the chief secretary of _ game or speed? we've talked to the chief secretary of the _ game or speed? we've talked to the chief secretary of the treasury - game or speed? we've talked to the chief secretary of the treasury in - chief secretary of the treasury in the afternoon and i put this to him several times, the afternoon and i put this to him severaltimes, he the afternoon and i put this to him several times, he was quite consistent saying there are concerns about public finances, we can't be making decisions to commit to more money when we've got lots of debt to pay off, we don't know what the circumstances will be in the autumn, we don't want to commit ourselves to measure is now where we may have to add even more measures in the autumn. really making a very rational, measured case. at the case was very clear, he clearly is against making some kind of move pretty soon. yes? he was away, he wants to wait and see if going on. very much the rishi sunak line. i'm wondering at what point the downing street line begins to cut across that. i street line begins to cut across that. ., �* ., , street line begins to cut across that. ., that. i thought boris johnson's interview this _ that. i thought boris johnson's interview this morning - that. i thought boris johnson's interview this morning when . that. i thought boris johnson'sl interview this morning when he that. i thought boris johnson's - interview this morning when he was painting _ interview this morning when he was painting those pictures with the children— painting those pictures with the children and he was pushed in that direction _ children and he was pushed in that direction and that would've been an opportunity to dangle a carrot if something was coming. but it really didn't— something was coming. but it really didn't seem to be there. last something was coming. but it really didn't seem to be there.— didn't seem to be there. last week he ushed didn't seem to be there. last week he pushed the _ didn't seem to be there. last week he pushed the idea _ didn't seem to be there. last week he pushed the idea of— didn't seem to be there. last week he pushed the idea of a _ didn't seem to be there. last week he pushed the idea of a windfall. didn't seem to be there. last week| he pushed the idea of a windfall tax and then denied it. that is definitely in the ether, not sure where to go next. the pressurised in october is set in august so this is what talking simon, didn't want to go ahead and august. more signalling, borisjohnson was keen to signal the signal the bank statement and rishi sunak said the different. this tension could get worse. �* , . different. this tension could get worse. 2 ., ., ., worse. let's have a look at the southeast _ worse. let's have a look at the southeast was _ worse. let's have a look at the southeast was that _ worse. let's have a look at the southeast was that we - worse. let's have a look at the southeast was that we talked i worse. let's have a look at the - southeast was that we talked about the west and the lib dems strength was up the performance in the southeast of england, 29 out of 29 councils declared. so the full house for you. councils declared. so the full house foryou. in councils declared. so the full house for you. in terms of counsellors labour on 147 having added 19. look at the conservative losses, they are down 85 in the southeast of england. the lib dems are up 42. independent sub six, the greens of 16, residents up sub six, the greens of 16, residents up to. councils themselves, let's have a look at council control, the all—important for the tories on eight having lost control of five councils in southeast, which is a pretty chunky laws. labour on sixth ave in game two, the lib dems on five having gained to. and the independents and greens are controlling ellie bring back any and ten hung councils. charlotte wright my colleague in the bbc southeast. thanks forjoining us. bring us up to date with the overview in your region and the relative strengths there of the tories and labour and there of the tories and labour and the lib dems. there of the tories and labour and the lib dems-— the lib dems. clearly a very difficult set _ the lib dems. clearly a very difficult set of _ the lib dems. clearly a very difficult set of results - the lib dems. clearly a very difficult set of results for i the lib dems. clearly a very| difficult set of results for the conservatives. they took a bit of a beaten, particularly in places like tunbridge wells, once that was considered the tory heartland. they lost control of counsel, they lost control of counsel at ship it became the second party this year. so the lib dems became the biggest party. they also lost seats in cambridge and of course lost worthing counsel to labor. it's been really difficult for the conservatives the set of results. i think we look at places like tunbridge wells, i do think party gate clearly has played a part in peoples decision—making. when you go out and about speak to people in tunbridge wells, they do raise it, they don't talk about it, some of they don't talk about it, some of the activists i've talked to said it came up quite a lot on the doorstep. of came up quite a lot on the doorstep. of course tunbridge wells is the only area and canned that voted remained. they not necessarily massive fans of boris johnson. remained. they not necessarily massive fans of borisjohnson. i do think are possibly a little less forgiving of him in maybe some other part of the country. the conservatives really took a hit in places like tunbridge wells with it is worth bearing in mind the results we've seen in the southeast do seem to have followed a bit of a pattern. sandridge loss, conservatives lost overall control of the council in 2019 and they continue to lose seats this time around for the tunbridge wells, conservatives lost overall control of the council last year. we can put everything at the door of party gate and the current national political situation. of course, party gate and the current national politicalsituation. of course, many people have been voting on local issues was up the state of the roads, housing is a really big issue in the southeast. certainly a really difficult set of results for the conservatives they are. charlotte, aood to conservatives they are. charlotte, good to talk _ conservatives they are. charlotte, good to talk to — conservatives they are. charlotte, good to talk to you. _ conservatives they are. charlotte, good to talk to you. charlotte i conservatives they are. charlotte, good to talk to you. charlotte at i good to talk to you. charlotte at the bbc news room in tunbridge wells. looking at kent in the southeast. christopher hope and allison phillips, really grateful for you to react to you. nice of your company. on the let you go and hopefully you will have a nice evening. plenty for us to discuss in i'm looking forward to what you will be including in your publications on the results. thank you very much for being with us. why do we catch up with the weather. it's thomas tonight. hi thomas, how are you? good evening. the earlier rain across northern and western parts of the uk should largely fizzle out through the evening and overnight. and that means that the weekend should be generally dry, sunny spells, just a few showers in the forecast, i think, tomorrow. so, here's the latest satellite picture, as the weather front crosses the country and moves southwards, here it is very early in the morning, and then i think by the middle of the day, it should be out of the picture, as high pressure builds in. so, through the early hours, a few showers there in east anglia and the southeast. elsewhere across the country, it's a case of clearing skies and our temperatures around seven o'clock in the morning on saturday around 9 celsius in belfast, seven celsius in glasgow, 13 degrees in london with that cloud and a few showers. now, the forecast indicates a fair bit of cloud across east anglia and the southeast in the morning. it could hang around through the afternoon as well, could be some showers, showers also could develop from southern parts of wales across the pen pennines, just about into the midlands. i think the best of the sunshine will be out towards the west across wales, southwestern parts of england, the higher temperatures here up to around 19 degrees or so. all in all, i think saturday is going to be a mostly fine day. here's sunday, high pressure still in charge, butjust starting to drift out towards the north sea. and this low pressure makes inroads. so, on sunday, i think increasing amounts of cloud out towards the northwest. i think more than anything, its hazy skies. elsewhere, scattered fairweather clouds with light winds, temperatures inland up to around 18—19 degrees, on the north sea coast, a bit fresher there, closer to 14 degrees. now, here's monday. that weather front really does push in across northern ireland and into scotland, so some wet and breezy weather at times here. but across the midlands, east anglia and the southeast, it's going to be a fine monday with sunshine and quite warm too. given some sunshine, temperatures could get up to around 21 degrees. now, here's the outlook for next week. now, you will notice that the breeze is mostly coming off the atlantic, so it's not going to be all that warm. still temperatures probably in the high teens, just about 20 degrees across the south, but the thinking is that elsewhere across the country, it will be a good deal cooler with frequent showers and breezy weather. bye— bye. good evening, and welcome back to our special bbc election coverage. this has been our home nearly for 24 hours now, monitoring all the election results, and as they come in, most of them have come in, we have been looking in detail at some of the english council election results which have taught as a great deal about the various related positions of the parties in england at the moment. the wheels i , most of them in —— wales results, showing a different pattern, conservatives having a tough time there. in scotland, the snp all—powerful, but labour having moved into second place ahead of the conservatives, and in northern ireland, lots of the results still to come, but sinn fein have made history in northern ireland because they are the top

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leader will take you. it's a gamble. is he an asset? i think he is at the moment, yes. i think_ i think he is at the moment, yes. i think that's — i think he is at the moment, yes. i think that's what it shown here. the liberal democrats have been if you need _ liberal democrats have been if you need to _ liberal democrats have been if you need to hugely from the frailties around _ need to hugely from the frailties around borisjohnson. and then i think_ around borisjohnson. and then i think the — around borisjohnson. and then i think the next step obviously is the cost of— think the next step obviously is the cost of living crisis is only really in the _ cost of living crisis is only really in the foothills. i think when people — in the foothills. i think when people are actually feeling that much _ people are actually feeling that much more, when we go into the autumn— much more, when we go into the autumn when not only the bills going to -o autumn when not only the bills going to go up— autumn when not only the bills going to go up further, energy bills, it's also good — to go up further, energy bills, it's also good to be cold. those numbers from the _ also good to be cold. those numbers from the bank of england yesterday, that is_ from the bank of england yesterday, that is only— from the bank of england yesterday, that is only going to get worse. i think— that is only going to get worse. i think it's — that is only going to get worse. i think it's going to be tougher boris johnson _ think it's going to be tougher boris johnson. , ., ., ., ., , ., johnson. they are not to gamble are the ? it johnson. they are not to gamble are they? it takes _ johnson. they are not to gamble are they? it takes three _ johnson. they are not to gamble are they? it takes three months - johnson. they are not to gamble are they? it takes three months to - johnson. they are not to gamble are they? it takes three months to get l johnson. they are not to gamble are they? it takes three months to get a new leader for _ they? it takes three months to get a new leader for the _ they? it takes three months to get a new leader for the tory _ they? it takes three months to get a new leader for the tory strategists l new leader for the tory strategists are saying to advisers and number ten, shut your eyes and imagine someone else who is in borisjohnson getting off a bus in bridgend, would you be happy campaigning for that person could smack when you're out with borisjohnson, like in and not like him he is a rock star politician who tries to get people going. he does inspire for that yet, he's got weaknesses, we know about them, when he came 90s had them and he still got them. there is a need to almost re—assess your vials with borisjohnson. to almost re-assess your vials with boris johnson-— boris johnson. those bridgend fi . ures boris johnson. those bridgend figures are _ boris johnson. those bridgend figures are interesting. - boris johnson. those bridgend figures are interesting. he - boris johnson. those bridgendi figures are interesting. he was boris johnson. those bridgend l figures are interesting. he was a rock star— figures are interesting. he was a rock star getting off a bridge in bridgend for a while. every rock star has— bridgend for a while. every rock star has a — bridgend for a while. every rock star has a day. maybe it is passed. in star has a day. maybe it is passed. in london— star has a day. maybe it is passed. in london certainly does 19 tory mps, not borisjohnson, they'll be looking saying, he is the right leader for us?— looking saying, he is the right leaderfor us? , ., . ., leader for us? rock star politician. accordinu leader for us? rock star politician. according to _ leader for us? rock star politician. according to some _ leader for us? rock star politician. according to some of _ leader for us? rock star politician. according to some of the - leader for us? rock star politician. according to some of the people i leader for us? rock star politician. l according to some of the people we spoke to overnight as keir starmer is problem is that he's not a rock star politician. somebody said other people, labour people well included said he seems a bit weak. he may not be weak but he seems a bit weak. and was not seen to be inducing people in a way that the party needed and that these results were okay. john curtis said early this morning, they are spectacular results. and on the basis of predicting national share, certainly not translating into what would be a general a recollection of the biggest party in parliament but not a win. is that lack of a rockstar, alleged lack of a rock star quality actually a virtue these days? i star quality actually a virtue these da s? ~ . star quality actually a virtue these da s? ,, ., ., , star quality actually a virtue these da s? ,, ., .,, ., days? i think that was what keir starmer was — days? i think that was what keir starmer was hoping, _ days? i think that was what keir starmer was hoping, that - days? i think that was what keir starmer was hoping, that he - days? i think that was what keir| starmer was hoping, that he was days? i think that was what keir - starmer was hoping, that he was the perfect _ starmer was hoping, that he was the perfect antidote to boris johnson. put it _ perfect antidote to boris johnson. put it into— perfect antidote to boris johnson. put it into context, what came out 2019 _ put it into context, what came out 2019 election it appeared that tabour— 2019 election it appeared that labour were absolutely horrendous position _ labour were absolutely horrendous position that it was probably going to take _ position that it was probably going to take ten years to come back from, so that— to take ten years to come back from, so that was— to take ten years to come back from, so that was a — to take ten years to come back from, so that was a starting point i think the first— so that was a starting point i think the first two years keir starmer print two— the first two years keir starmer print two spent quite a bit of time getting his house in order. it was only the — getting his house in order. it was only the last party conference that spent _ only the last party conference that spent most of the time on internal rule changes. there's been a bit ofm _ rule changes. there's been a bit ofm maybe _ rule changes. there's been a bit of... maybe this is the plan, two years— of... maybe this is the plan, two years sorting your house out that of course _ years sorting your house out that of course covid, party gate, ukraine. dave _ course covid, party gate, ukraine. dave said — course covid, party gate, ukraine. dave said a — course covid, party gate, ukraine. dave said a lot of things coming from _ dave said a lot of things coming from different directions. maybe if the next _ from different directions. maybe if the next two years this is the real keir starmer, this is the policy, this is— keir starmer, this is the policy, this is the — keir starmer, this is the policy, this is the pizzazz, that's perhaps what _ this is the pizzazz, that's perhaps what he — this is the pizzazz, that's perhaps what he is — this is the pizzazz, that's perhaps what he is going to have to bring a bit more _ what he is going to have to bring a bit more of— what he is going to have to bring a bit more of that out. that is what our readers — bit more of that out. that is what our readers are looking for. we think— our readers are looking for. we think is— our readers are looking for. we think is great, solid, sensible but let's have — think is great, solid, sensible but let's have a — think is great, solid, sensible but let's have a little bit of oomph now — let's have a little bit of oomph now. , ., ., a let's have a little bit of oomph now. , ., ., ., now. the question i asked earlier about whether _ now. the question i asked earlier about whether boris _ now. the question i asked earlier about whether boris johnson - now. the question i asked earlier about whether boris johnson is l now. the question i asked earlier| about whether boris johnson is an about whether borisjohnson is an asset to labour and is keir starmer seen as an asset to the tories? years according to tories i speak to. they think he's not very political. i think he went too hard on your party gate story saying it resigned to rishi sunak and boris johnson. when he may have known that question marks of his own drinking a beerin question marks of his own drinking a beer in durham within office. he's went too hard and now he's got to work out where he goes next with that. it is not answered any of your questions when he spotted today, whether he will resign or it gets a five. that's a big issue he's got. it is making good tax onjohnson over attacks, it is making good tax onjohnson overattacks, he it is making good tax onjohnson over attacks, he saying i would cut taxes for people on low wages which is what of course hasn't done. he's navigating around johnson, he's got a good team him from they want to be empowered to, that's the port of being in politics, isn't it? yes and ou think being in politics, isn't it? yes and you think for _ being in politics, isn't it? yes and you think for an _ being in politics, isn't it? yes and you think for an opposition - being in politics, isn't it? yes and you think for an opposition party l being in politics, isn't it? yes and. you think for an opposition party to be against the government where government qualities have been called into question integrity, trust and honesty which i must say pretty big concepts to be called into question. then you have a cost of living crisis, inflation at io%, possible inflation around the corner, people saying very openly that the help that's on offer so far with household bills, is not enough but it's not enough. in opposition party should be in a position to capitalise more on that. share party should be in a position to capitalise more on that. are we seeinu capitalise more on that. are we seeing matt? is _ capitalise more on that. are we seeing matt? is not _ capitalise more on that. are we seeing matt? is not the - capitalise more on that. are we seeing matt? is not the big - capitalise more on that. are wel seeing matt? is not the big 90s. capitalise more on that. are we - seeing matt? is not the big 90s. he is not tony blair. when tony blair was really on the charge in 95, 96 and that that's not happening. i do and that that's not happening. i do think we have _ and that that's not happening. i do think we have to remember he's coming — think we have to remember he's coming from a very poor, very difficult — coming from a very poor, very difficult position at 2019. he has made _ difficult position at 2019. he has made some headway but like you say, there's— made some headway but like you say, there's treen— made some headway but like you say, there's been big stories for him to capitalise — there's been big stories for him to capitalise on. can there's been big stories for him to capitalise om— there's been big stories for him to capitalise on. can we take a pause was back pp _ capitalise on. can we take a pause was back up and _ capitalise on. can we take a pause was back up and talk— capitalise on. can we take a pause was back up and talk about live . was back up and talk about live dams, greens and let's share the riches. thank you both for now. let's catch up with the rest of the days news. shaun ley. ukrainian soldiers defending a steelworks in the southern city of mario poe have accused russian forces of bridging a cease—fire designed to enable the evacuation of more civilians. ajoint designed to enable the evacuation of more civilians. a joint operation designed to enable the evacuation of more civilians. ajoint operation by the united nations and the international red cross is under way there also calls for the soldiers defending the plant to be allowed to leave. our correspondent delivers from the northwest of mario poe. kremlin backed troops still fighting on this vast steel plant according to uk intelligence while ukrainian soldiers and hundreds of civilians shelter inside. they've been using this sprawling network of tunnels as a refuge for more than two months. very little food or water. around 100 women and children have already been rescued from the depths of the plant. there is operation to save now please to try and make want last stand for the city. saigon is only son is there, she doesn't want to be identified protect them. it’s identified protect them. it's horrible. — identified protect them. it�*s horrible, horrible to know that your son is fighting and has nothing left to fight with in a city that is completely raised to the ground and seized by the occupiers. i would give everything in exchange for him to survive. for everyone who is still there under the bombardment to survive. we beg, we beg all the world countries help us and save our heroes. it's not them who are complaining and begging, it's us. svetlana was complaining and begging, it's us. svetla na was ordered complaining and begging, it's us. svetlana was ordered by her son to flee as the russian bombs leveled this once thriving port. ukrainian officials claim more than 20,000 people have been killed. the relatives of others still fighting can't bear to see these images. her husband and her two sons in law are also in the ukrainian as all unit. translation: every image is a wound in my translation: every image is a wound in nty heart— translation: every image is a wound in my heart and in my soul. every time, _ in my heart and in my soul. every time, nty— in my heart and in my soul. every time, my wish is that they will survive — time, my wish is that they will survive this. of course they will keep— survive this. of course they will keep fighting, they are holding on, they are _ keep fighting, they are holding on, they are doing the impossible. outnumbered and outgunned the small defending force has become a potent symbol for ukraine. they may never surrender but they are due families are praying they'll get a chance. the convenience store mccall's is putting 16,000 jobs at risk. tonight there's hope of rescue deal being put together by the billionaire brothers who co—own both of our business correspondent emma simpson reports. from its first shop in glasgow in 1901 to a network of more than a thousand stores. mccoll�*s is a familiar name in our high streets. shopping locally has never been more popular than during the pandemic, but mccoll�*s has found the going tough. here in stevenage, shoppers say it's handy but don't buy very much. ijust get my newspapers here and ijust like them because they're available, you know, they're always regular. we're just heading in now to get a birthday card and a drink, a quick grab and go. yes. good service. not always got what you want. even before covid, convenience stores have been a bright spot here on the high street. but mccoll�*s has been too slow to adapt and providing more of a one—stop shop. it's also had long running supply chain problems struggling to get stock, a business with too much debt, finding it harder and harder to make money. morrison's, already in a partnership with mccoll�*s, put in an offer for the chain overnight, but it's the owners of this vast petrol station group who now look set to buy the business. the underlying business at mccoll�*s is over a thousand convenience stores in pretty decent locations. and really now in the future it's just a question of getting the range right and the pricing right to see the business flourish well into the future. mccoll�*s staff were told today that going into administration would hopefully mean that the business and colleagues would transfer across to a new owner. a deal could be done by monday. emma simpson, bbc news, stevenage. buckingham palace has announced that prince andrew, prince harry and his wife meghan will not make appearances on the royal balcony during the trip in the coloured ceremony marking the queens platinum jubilee next month. buckingham palace at two only in clued royals carrying out real duties was taken after consideration. the duke and duchess of sussex 80 they and their children will attend other celebration injune as part as the officialjubilee of events. if you want to find out the election results in your area just said to the bbc news weight website where you can enter your postcode. there's also of election analysis in the latest reports from other teams covering around the uk. back to elections 2022. welcome back. thanks to shaun ley for the latest on the news. can i show you this result from saint burns? this will tell us something about the story of the day as well. the lid tends, a very big lib dem stronghold, saint auburn is been held by the lib dems, that's no surprise because a live dams have had a very good local election. but let's look at the actual result. 50 seats to the lib dens in save auburn as well seeing second batch a dramatic improvement on their position, four seats to the tories and then independents and greens want let's look at the change since last time around. look at that. now, thatis last time around. look at that. now, that is what you call a turbo—charged boost by the lib dems, putting on 20 seats. look at that conservative performance was up down 18 seeds in a part of the country that yes, of course it's quite affluent, it's quite a remain kind of part of the world so you build that in as well in terms of the kind of demographic nature of it. but thatis of demographic nature of it. but that is still a startling results for the tories where they've been excuse me for using the word, a wallop they been in st albans. with that in mind, what i'd like to do is to talk to our regional political editor in bristol. we are still in the lead libjab editor in bristol. we are still in the lead lib jab theme the performance of the lib dems in your region and specifically in specifically in somerset in that new authority which we were talking about earlier today because they are again it was a very strong lib dem performance. talk us through that. it's surpassed all expectations, surpassed all productions. the conservatives had run the county of somerset county council level for 13 years. the last time it was up is 2017 and got a solid majority then. backin 2017 and got a solid majority then. back in 2019 the most recent election for the calories when districts went to the polls with the people remember there was a bad year for teresa mae and conservatives in the local elections. in a particular instance, the local democrats took three of the four district councils. they were going well then but we had a general election months later, the lib dems didn't do well at all. it's a county where where they once were so strong you think back to those times to where they held most of the parliamentary seats in somerset, did really well across the west country, that all hit the buffers back in 2005 at the end of the coalition, they were wiped off the map in terms of parliamentary seats in the west country. it didn't looking for a way back. this election they went into it a long way behind the conservatives in terms of the countywide vote last time they hope to make real progress, they thought they might end up is the biggest party but what they actually got was a big solid majority. the tories were really pumped across the county, it was a bad result for them. if you look at the other parties, labour, very small in somerset state where they were, there is half the green cows are, no real change there, a few independents again, no real change, it was a lib dems going forward the conservatives going backward very badly. conservatives going backward very badl . , ., , ., badly. the question is, how concerned _ badly. the question is, how concerned are _ badly. the question is, how| concerned are conservatives badly. the question is, how i concerned are conservatives in badly. the question is, how - concerned are conservatives in the west of england about the prospect and the general election faced with and the general election faced with a resurgent lib dem party? what are they saying to you?— they saying to you? interesting, i was talking to — they saying to you? interesting, i was talking to one conservative i they saying to you? interesting, i i was talking to one conservative mp yesterday is saying, on the one hand, five years ago yes, we did really well in local elections here but then three years ago we had a pretty dire at night. he was saying we can expect these ups and downs, putting it onto a bit of midterm blues but that was before the results came in. i don't think he was expecting, i don't think any of the conservatives in somerset were expecting it to be as bad as it really was. so they will be worried because it's this sense of resurgence against the conservatives. in the other parts conservatives. in the other parts conservatives have held their ground to quite a degree against labor. they really gone backwards where they're up against the lib dem. if you look at the road actually the m5 to cheltenham where half the seats were being contested there, the lib dems already ran that council. what we saw today was the conservatives slipping backwards even more. and that will be a real concern to the conservative mp there who sits on a very marginal majority. i would say for conservative mps, it's a real worry. some trying to say this is just a midterm ripple, if you like, people expressing their discontent. i know when i was out in somerset talking to people i met quite a b who said, yes, i would normally vote conservative but because of what's going on naturally i'm not going to this time. ., ., ~ going on naturally i'm not going to this time. . ., ~' , ., , this time. paul, thank you very much. indeed _ this time. paul, thank you very much. indeed looking - this time. paul, thank you very much. indeed looking across . this time. paul, thank you very i much. indeed looking across the this time. paul, thank you very - much. indeed looking across the west of england at the lib dem performance there and following on from what i was saying about st albans. i know you know the st albans. i know you know the st albans area pretty albans. i know you know the st alba ns area pretty well albans. i know you know the st albans area pretty well the west country in many ways offers some useful folly for us. how concerned should conservative mps be about the lib dem threat in this parts of the world? �* , ., ., , ., world? berry. the landgrab or starts it is been doing _ world? berry. the landgrab or starts it is been doing in _ world? berry. the landgrab or starts it is been doing in the _ world? berry. the landgrab or starts it is been doing in the red _ world? berry. the landgrab or starts it is been doing in the red walls in i it is been doing in the red walls in wales and elsewhere is the concern is the seeds in the core grassroots part of the country where the tories have been so strong are being forgotten about. st albans is also a remain story, i think. daisy cooper there, great mp, lib dem been a strong team of campaigners was that i think they do really well. somerset is a worry. the mp for yeovil is now calling tonight for a change in economic strategy, he's not sure about personalities but he thinks the policy is wrong on taxation. that area is where the new headache for boris johnson taxation. that area is where the new headache for borisjohnson going next week is what are we doing here, we are losing sight of these areas. time and again overnight talking to conservatives who were feeling the pain and even earlier today i think we are talking earlier, same kind of message, there needs to be more help for people, taxation policy is wrong, national insurance policy misguided, if there is to be extra help it needs to beat now, not waiting for the budget, there is no kind of time to lose especially given the fact that people are signalling a bit of a crisis going on. first of all, you kick off with this one. is that likely? we had rishi sunak saying it would be silly to start off doing that offering more help to people we know it can happen in the autumn. he explained that very clearly in his thinking was very clear on that. is he can have to revisit that? the was very clear on that. is he can have to revisit that?— was very clear on that. is he can have to revisit that? the budget in november is _ have to revisit that? the budget in november is after _ have to revisit that? the budget in november is after the _ have to revisit that? the budget in november is after the huge - have to revisit that? the budget in i november is after the huge increase likely in the 1st of october. that figure is set in august. the hot money is on intervention, physical intervention by the government in september. looking into the party conferences and there's no way the tories will go through all the party conferences with the lib dems in labour and have no answer to the huge increase in energy prices in october. going back from that, looking at the reshuffle in september, looking at three difficult elections for by elections for different reasons, also some tory mps feel there's a need to renew files with their leader, that can't come soon enough. the pressure ed davey lost two stone, looking punchy, looking sharp, is an interesting thought for the tories was that they were disregarding a few months ago but not anymore. if few months ago but not anymore. if they did underestimate, they've done it out there because havoc they really? were you expecting to see the lib dems coming back with this kind of strength? i the lib dems coming back with this kind of strength?— the lib dems coming back with this kind of strength? i think throughout lib dem history _ kind of strength? i think throughout lib dem history they've _ kind of strength? i think throughout lib dem history they've always - kind of strength? i think throughout j lib dem history they've always been there _ lib dem history they've always been there is a _ lib dem history they've always been there is a place people go to when they are dissatisfied with the other two options. that's always there. but certainly they probably have exceeded perhaps their own expectations on this occasion. it's a long _ expectations on this occasion. it's a long way— expectations on this occasion. it's a long way for people who are very cross _ a long way for people who are very cross with — a long way for people who are very cross with the conservatives to go all the _ cross with the conservatives to go all the way — cross with the conservatives to go all the way to labour even at this point _ all the way to labour even at this point as— all the way to labour even at this point. as we set as well, the hangover— point. as we set as well, the hangover of brexit still lingers and we know— hangover of brexit still lingers and we know that a lot of those st albans — we know that a lot of those st albans and other related areas, that's— albans and other related areas, that's where the conservatives have -ot that's where the conservatives have got difficulties. as of the lib dem is there _ got difficulties. as of the lib dem is there as — got difficulties. as of the lib dem is there as an opportunity. that's interesting — is there as an opportunity. that's interesting. there's also this issue that boris— interesting. there's also this issue that borisjohnson is really facing now with — that borisjohnson is really facing now with conservative parties difficulty— now with conservative parties difficulty in appealing to a law of the old — difficulty in appealing to a law of the old guard. this idea that more people _ the old guard. this idea that more people who may have left school at 18 are _ people who may have left school at 18 are now — people who may have left school at 18 are now more likely to vote conservative that people with degree level, _ conservative that people with degree level. may _ conservative that people with degree level, may be going to labor. seems like the _ level, may be going to labor. seems like the old — level, may be going to labor. seems like the old ideas have been turned upside _ like the old ideas have been turned upside down. sometimes for want of a better— upside down. sometimes for want of a better work. _ upside down. sometimes for want of a betterwork, borisjohnson upside down. sometimes for want of a better work, borisjohnson is really failing _ better work, borisjohnson is really failing in— better work, borisjohnson is really failing in posh areas. they are going — failing in posh areas. they are going to — failing in posh areas. they are going to lib dems. there is unless something — going to lib dems. there is unless something significant changes and perhaps— something significant changes and perhaps september is too long way, it's going _ perhaps september is too long way, it's going to be quite difficult. if there _ it's going to be quite difficult. if there is— it's going to be quite difficult. if there is an _ it's going to be quite difficult. if there is an intervention before september and there is an intervention before septemberand then there there is an intervention before september and then there is more party— september and then there is more party finds, is that momentum that we've _ party finds, is that momentum that we've seen it earlier in the early game _ we've seen it earlier in the early game or— we've seen it earlier in the early game or speed?— we've seen it earlier in the early game or speed? we've talked to the chief secretary _ game or speed? we've talked to the chief secretary of _ game or speed? we've talked to the chief secretary of the _ game or speed? we've talked to the chief secretary of the treasury - game or speed? we've talked to the chief secretary of the treasury in - chief secretary of the treasury in the afternoon and i put this to him several times, the afternoon and i put this to him severaltimes, he the afternoon and i put this to him several times, he was quite consistent saying there are concerns about public finances, we can't be making decisions to commit to more money when we've got lots of debt to pay off, we don't know what the circumstances will be in the autumn, we don't want to commit ourselves to measure is now where we may have to add even more measures in the autumn. really making a very rational, measured case. at the case was very clear, he clearly is against making some kind of move pretty soon. yes? he was away, he wants to wait and see if going on. very much the rishi sunak line. i'm wondering at what point the downing street line begins to cut across that. i street line begins to cut across that. ., �* ., , street line begins to cut across that. ., that. i thought boris johnson's interview this _ that. i thought boris johnson's interview this morning - that. i thought boris johnson's interview this morning when . that. i thought boris johnson'sl interview this morning when he that. i thought boris johnson's - interview this morning when he was painting _ interview this morning when he was painting those pictures with the children— painting those pictures with the children and he was pushed in that direction _ children and he was pushed in that direction and that would've been an opportunity to dangle a carrot if something was coming. but it really didn't— something was coming. but it really didn't seem to be there. last something was coming. but it really didn't seem to be there.— didn't seem to be there. last week he ushed didn't seem to be there. last week he pushed the _ didn't seem to be there. last week he pushed the idea _ didn't seem to be there. last week he pushed the idea of— didn't seem to be there. last week he pushed the idea of a _ didn't seem to be there. last week he pushed the idea of a windfall. didn't seem to be there. last week| he pushed the idea of a windfall tax and then denied it. that is definitely in the ether, not sure where to go next. the pressurised in october is set in august so this is what talking simon, didn't want to go ahead and august. more signalling, borisjohnson was keen to signal the signal the bank statement and rishi sunak said the different. this tension could get worse. �* , . different. this tension could get worse. 2 ., ., ., worse. let's have a look at the southeast _ worse. let's have a look at the southeast was _ worse. let's have a look at the southeast was that _ worse. let's have a look at the southeast was that we - worse. let's have a look at the southeast was that we talked i worse. let's have a look at the - southeast was that we talked about the west and the lib dems strength was up the performance in the southeast of england, 29 out of 29 councils declared. so the full house for you. councils declared. so the full house foryou. in councils declared. so the full house for you. in terms of counsellors labour on 147 having added 19. look at the conservative losses, they are down 85 in the southeast of england. the lib dems are up 42. independent sub six, the greens of 16, residents up sub six, the greens of 16, residents up to. councils themselves, let's have a look at council control, the all—important for the tories on eight having lost control of five councils in southeast, which is a pretty chunky laws. labour on sixth ave in game two, the lib dems on five having gained to. and the independents and greens are controlling ellie bring back any and ten hung councils. charlotte wright my colleague in the bbc southeast. thanks forjoining us. bring us up to date with the overview in your region and the relative strengths there of the tories and labour and there of the tories and labour and the lib dems. there of the tories and labour and the lib dems-— the lib dems. clearly a very difficult set _ the lib dems. clearly a very difficult set of _ the lib dems. clearly a very difficult set of results - the lib dems. clearly a very difficult set of results for i the lib dems. clearly a very| difficult set of results for the conservatives. they took a bit of a beaten, particularly in places like tunbridge wells, once that was considered the tory heartland. they lost control of counsel, they lost control of counsel at ship it became the second party this year. so the lib dems became the biggest party. they also lost seats in cambridge and of course lost worthing counsel to labor. it's been really difficult for the conservatives the set of results. i think we look at places like tunbridge wells, i do think party gate clearly has played a part in peoples decision—making. when you go out and about speak to people in tunbridge wells, they do raise it, they don't talk about it, some of they don't talk about it, some of the activists i've talked to said it came up quite a lot on the doorstep. of came up quite a lot on the doorstep. of course tunbridge wells is the only area and canned that voted remained. they not necessarily massive fans of boris johnson. remained. they not necessarily massive fans of borisjohnson. i do think are possibly a little less forgiving of him in maybe some other part of the country. the conservatives really took a hit in places like tunbridge wells with it is worth bearing in mind the results we've seen in the southeast do seem to have followed a bit of a pattern. sandridge loss, conservatives lost overall control of the council in 2019 and they continue to lose seats this time around for the tunbridge wells, conservatives lost overall control of the council last year. we can put everything at the door of party gate and the current national political situation. of course, party gate and the current national politicalsituation. of course, many people have been voting on local issues was up the state of the roads, housing is a really big issue in the southeast. certainly a really difficult set of results for the conservatives they are. charlotte, aood to conservatives they are. charlotte, good to talk _ conservatives they are. charlotte, good to talk to — conservatives they are. charlotte, good to talk to you. _ conservatives they are. charlotte, good to talk to you. charlotte i conservatives they are. charlotte, good to talk to you. charlotte at i good to talk to you. charlotte at the bbc news room in tunbridge wells. looking at kent in the southeast. christopher hope and allison phillips, really grateful for you to react to you. nice of your company. on the let you go and hopefully you will have a nice evening. plenty for us to discuss in i'm looking forward to what you will be including in your publications on the results. thank you very much for being with us. why do we catch up with the weather. it's thomas tonight. hi thomas, how are you? good evening. the earlier rain across northern and western parts of the uk should largely fizzle out through the evening and overnight. and that means that the weekend should be generally dry, sunny spells, just a few showers in the forecast, i think, tomorrow. so, here's the latest satellite picture, as the weather front crosses the country and moves southwards, here it is very early in the morning, and then i think by the middle of the day, it should be out of the picture, as high pressure builds in. so, through the early hours, a few showers there in east anglia and the southeast. elsewhere across the country, it's a case of clearing skies and our temperatures around seven o'clock in the morning on saturday around 9 celsius in belfast, seven celsius in glasgow, 13 degrees in london with that cloud and a few showers. now, the forecast indicates a fair bit of cloud across east anglia and the southeast in the morning. it could hang around through the afternoon as well, could be some showers, showers also could develop from southern parts of wales across the pen pennines, just about into the midlands. i think the best of the sunshine will be out towards the west across wales, southwestern parts of england, the higher temperatures here up to around 19 degrees or so. all in all, i think saturday is going to be a mostly fine day. here's sunday, high pressure still in charge, butjust starting to drift out towards the north sea. and this low pressure makes inroads. so, on sunday, i think increasing amounts of cloud out towards the northwest. i think more than anything, its hazy skies. elsewhere, scattered fairweather clouds with light winds, temperatures inland up to around 18—19 degrees, on the north sea coast, a bit fresher there, closer to 14 degrees. now, here's monday. that weather front really does push in across northern ireland and into scotland, so some wet and breezy weather at times here. but across the midlands, east anglia and the southeast, it's going to be a fine monday with sunshine and quite warm too. given some sunshine, temperatures could get up to around 21 degrees. now, here's the outlook for next week. now, you will notice that the breeze is mostly coming off the atlantic, so it's not going to be all that warm. still temperatures probably in the high teens, just about 20 degrees across the south, but the thinking is that elsewhere across the country, it will be a good deal cooler with frequent showers and breezy weather. bye— bye. good evening, and welcome back to our special bbc election coverage. this has been our home nearly for 24 hours now, monitoring all the election results, and as they come in, most of them have come in, we have been looking in detail at some of the english council election results which have taught as a great deal about the various related positions of the parties in england at the moment. the wheels i , most of them in —— wales results, showing a different pattern, conservatives having a tough time there. in scotland, the snp all—powerful, but labour having moved into second place ahead of the conservatives, and in northern ireland, lots of the results still to come, but sinn fein have made history in northern ireland because they are the top

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