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natalie pirks, thank you for that. that's it. now on bbc one, time for the news where you are. have a very good night. hello there. after generally cloudy skies of the past few days, wednesday brings the promise of something brighter. more sunshine on the cards with that will trigger some heavy thundering downpours. generally a cloudy start to the day on wednesday. we'll see patchy outbreaks of rain shifting eastwards brighter skies will so, a generally cloudy start to the day on wednesday. we'll see patchy outbreaks of rain shifting eastwards. brighter skies will feed in as we move through the day from the west, and with that sunshine, we could see those heavy, thundery downpours, particularly for eastern parts of scotland, northe east england, the midlands, down central and southern england. and with more in the way of sunshine, it will be warmer, highs around 12—17 degrees celsius. overnight, we'll see those showers fading away across england and wales, patchy cloud and clear spells here. cloudier skies feeding in, though, across northern ireland and scotland with some patchy outbreaks of rain. the temperatures overnight not falling too far at all. overnight low sitting generally in the high single figures. a warmer day still across england and wales, with temperatures in the south east reaching highs of 21, perhaps 22 degrees celsius. cloudier to the north and west. hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are katy balls, who's deputy political editor at the spectator, and the broadcaster penny smith. welcome to you both. tomorrow's front pages, starting with... the metro covers a terror trial in which a former pub landlord is alleged to have claimed money in covid bounce—back loans, but then sent it to the islamic state terrorist group. the same story is in the ft, though they lead with the huge profits made by bp and the calls they've prompted for a windfall tax on energy firms. the lead in the telegraph is about claims that france withheld secrets about missiles used to kill british soldiers in the falklands war a0 years ago tomorrow. the guardian reports on the leaked document suggesting the american supreme court could scrap the legal right to abortion and joe biden's comments saying the right to abortion is fundamental. once again, the daily mail goes with the pressure on keir starmer over claims he broke lockdown rules. while the sun covers the latest development in the case of madeleine mccann, saying fibres from madeleine's clothing have been found in a camper van belonging to the chief suspect. so, let's begin. a variety of front pages and different stories for us to chew over. let's start with the financial times and the headline bp's bumper earnings stoke call for windfall tax to offset fuel bills. and this is after bp announced a sharp rise in profits for the first three months of the year. and of course this as the paper is saying is fuelling calls for a windfall tax. boris johnson has ruled out a windfall tax on energy companies. is that the end of the matter, do you think was meant as you say,...— of the matter, do you think was meant as you say,... situation where bp has recorded _ meant as you say,... situation where bp has recorded its _ meant as you say,... situation where bp has recorded its high-risk- bp has recorded its high—risk quarterly earnings and more than a decade and that has led to soaring prices for hydrocarbons and just as many people that are really feeling the cost—of—living crunch, which is a big factor down to energy bills, seeing these companies do pretty well. i think therefore in a way is a gift to labour in their calls for a gift to labour in their calls for a windfall tax and as you touch on my borisjohnson is pretty adamant the government is not going to go there. but there have already been a few small signs of perhaps a fracturing in that unity chemists of the chancellor last week not saying that he supported one, but not really one out. a bit of a difference than some of the previous language and then you have the secretary of energy trying to is well. see you have the point where even the cabinet there are different nuances on the topic and i think when he said these big profits, there'll be some of the tory party looking ahead to local elections and also looking more generally the rest of the year and the energy price camp will go again come the autumn and that will make things even trickier, and they wonder if this is perhaps the easy way to bring some revenue in. the issue, labour and been calling for one for so long and as the article points out, i think a lot of tory mps are reluctant partly on the grounds it look as though you giving us a link to the opposition after such a long time and saying they will not go there. i after such a long time and saying they will not go there.— after such a long time and saying they will not go there. i thought it interestin: they will not go there. i thought it interesting that _ they will not go there. i thought it interesting that clearly _ they will not go there. i thought it interesting that clearly deep - they will not go there. i thought it interesting that clearly deep bp i interesting that clearly deep bp chief executive has given interview to the ft and he says he understands that many households were really struggling but also talked about what he thought bp's role was to return cash to shareholders including millions of pensioners, pay taxes and invest in the energy system. whatever else you say, this is not an issue that is going to go away, is it? i is not an issue that is going to go away. is it?— away, is it? i don't think it's auoin away, is it? i don't think it's going to _ away, is it? i don't think it's going to go _ away, is it? i don't think it's going to go away _ away, is it? i don't think it's going to go away and - away, is it? i don't think it's going to go away and i - away, is it? i don't think it'sj going to go away and i know away, is it? i don't think it's i going to go away and i know he away, is it? i don't think it's - going to go away and i know he did this interview, and yes, of course thatis this interview, and yes, of course that is what a company does, it returns money to shareholders and as you say, people who have pension pots as well of course he will be benefiting from this. but what i thought was actually really telling was that when the times asked him about which of its £18 billion uk investments that it would drop if there was a windfall tax, he said there was a windfall tax, he said there are none that we would not do. so you then think, well, if that's the case, then why notjust have a windfall tax because after all, the point is this is a windfall for bp. and it's something that would not have happened apart from all the things that have suddenly stacked up, the fact that we have got a million barrels of russian oil a day then remove from the market. that is going to or could double this month. and i do think that there were a novel of people who are on the doorstep when you are talking about, she talked about thursday's elections, these are the things that people are asking why would you not support a tax to help us out? and also i know you were saying and i know she was saying about the chancellor cosmic office looking at other ways of doing it, you could argue that there are other ways of actually trying to help people who are... this is really bringing the country together in a way, in a horrible way, as in every body is pretty much the same boat but looking at something and saying i don't know whether i can actually lurch from month—to—month if this is my outgoings, which have suddenly exploded. qm. my outgoings, which have suddenly exloded. �* , ., my outgoings, which have suddenly exloded. �*, ., ., ., exploded. ok, let's move on to the guardian and _ exploded. ok, let's move on to the guardian and interesting _ exploded. ok, let's move on to the guardian and interesting headline l guardian and interesting headline here, johnson's interview gas anger tory mps. first of all i think phyllis in on what those gaps, which i'm saying in inverted commas, might be. 50 i'm saying in inverted commas, might be, �* ., , i'm saying in inverted commas, might be. so it boris johnson like keir starmer has — be. so it boris johnson like keir starmer has been _ be. so it boris johnson like keir starmer has been out _ be. so it boris johnson like keir starmer has been out today - be. so it boris johnson like keir i starmer has been out today doing local media and the main gaffe and i might be credited on this game in his morning interview on good morning britain where he had the presenter and worth noting that borisjohnson has avoided an interview on the show for some time and it was put to him the case of a pensioner who found it too difficult to heat their own home that they were just riding on the to heat their own home that they werejust riding on the bus. and borisjohnson positive initial response to this was like i brought in that bus pass which means she can ride forfree, which may be in that bus pass which means she can ride for free, which may be the case but i think clearly misjudged the tone. and it's not really the point of saying you are grateful for the bus as much as saying why can i not eat my own home? so that one has race alarm applicant points to general unease about how the cost—of—living is hurting the tories and making them seem out of touch with what many voters are going through. i think the interview did not help and also interesting because in the story, for that of the piece, they talk about how the chancellor is looking at other ways to ease the burden come the autumn in terms of the budget and perhaps actually government funding taking some of the cost out of energy bills and so forth and go into the mechanism it currently is. $5 and so forth and go into the mechanism it currently is. as it was a interview— mechanism it currently is. as it was a interview that _ mechanism it currently is. as it was a interview that she _ mechanism it currently is. as it was a interview that she talked - mechanism it currently is. as it was a interview that she talked about, l a interview that she talked about, he also gave interview yesterday where he admitted failing to do enough to alleviate the pain of soaring costs and in some ways this comes back to the point you made before. , , , , ., before. yes, exactly. there seems to before. yes, exactly. there seems to be this issue — before. yes, exactly. there seems to be this issue with... _ before. yes, exactly. there seems to be this issue with... i _ before. yes, exactly. there seems to be this issue with. .. i think— before. yes, exactly. there seems to be this issue with... i think it - be this issue with... i think it is possibly— be this issue with... i think it is possibly most of the prime minister rate is_ possibly most of the prime minister rate is not— possibly most of the prime minister rate is not sin to be actually... it does _ rate is not sin to be actually... it does not — rate is not sin to be actually... it does not have his finger on the pulse _ does not have his finger on the pulse and _ does not have his finger on the pulse and i think that is the main issue was— pulse and i think that is the main issue was of the fact the first thing he _ issue was of the fact the first thing he does is go i introduced free bus — thing he does is go i introduced free bus passes and all the rest of it, i free bus passes and all the rest of it. i don'i— free bus passes and all the rest of it, i don't think he did actually was _ it, i don't think he did actually was up — it, i don't think he did actually was up i — it, i don't think he did actually was up i think he extended it. he extended — was up i think he extended it. he extended it so actually woman can actually _ extended it so actually woman can actually carry on trying to be on a bus for— actually carry on trying to be on a bus for a — actually carry on trying to be on a bus for a little bit longer to keep warm _ bus for a little bit longer to keep warm. but it is about being out of touch _ warm. but it is about being out of touch with — warm. but it is about being out of touch with what's going on and not actually offering up anything it seems — actually offering up anything it seems at all kind of comforting in any way, — seems at all kind of comforting in any way, shape or form. in the one thing _ any way, shape or form. in the one thing people — any way, shape or form. in the one thing people i think generally would io thing people i think generally would id if thing people i think generally would go if he _ thing people i think generally would go if he did do a windfall tax, taking — go if he did do a windfall tax, taking the fact that 0k it might look like — taking the fact that 0k it might look like you were playing into labour — look like you were playing into labour cosmic hands, sometimes thais— labour cosmic hands, sometimes that's actually a good thing. the you know— that's actually a good thing. the you know what, let's do that because that's a _ you know what, let's do that because that's a really good way of saying let's that's a really good way of saying iei'siusi — that's a really good way of saying let'sjust make this a bit more of a level playing field. there are many people _ level playing field. there are many people out there for whom the sort of massive — people out there for whom the sort of massive hikes in oil and gas are making _ of massive hikes in oil and gas are making anything. the ceo of bp got 4.5 making anything. the ceo of bp got 45 million — making anything. the ceo of bp got 4.5 million last year. i'm sure he's not trying — 4.5 million last year. i'm sure he's notifying to — 4.5 million last year. i'm sure he's not trying to put an extra hot water bottle _ not trying to put an extra hot water bottle and — not trying to put an extra hot water bottle and wandering around with lots of _ bottle and wandering around with lots of extra jumpers on her trying to find _ lots of extra jumpers on her trying to find a _ lots of extra jumpers on her trying to find a free bus pass to go and used _ to find a free bus pass to go and used to— to find a free bus pass to go and used to keep warm. i think it'sjust the fact— used to keep warm. i think it'sjust the fact that he seems to be out of touch with — the fact that he seems to be out of touch with what is going on and how it really— touch with what is going on and how it really difficult it is out there at the — it really difficult it is out there at the moment.— it really difficult it is out there at the moment. , , .. , at the moment. interesting because in some ways _ at the moment. interesting because in some ways one _ at the moment. interesting because in some ways one of— at the moment. interesting because in some ways one of the _ at the moment. interesting because in some ways one of the things - in some ways one of the things it was a lesson about borisjohnson was that he was in touch and he had his finger on the pulse of what voters were thinking. only because we have to move on but let's stay with you for the next story which is when the guardian again and joe biden link and type abortion it really quotes imperil civil rights. this leak document suggest the supreme court is about to overturn a law protecting the right to abortion and i don't know about you but i thought the photograph on the front of the guardian really sums up how defeated —— divisive and brought this issue is over there. mi; -- divisive and brought this issue is over there.— -- divisive and brought this issue is over there. g ,, , is over there. my goodness, can they be shouting — is over there. my goodness, can they be shouting from _ is over there. my goodness, can they be shouting from any _ is over there. my goodness, can they be shouting from any closer? - is over there. my goodness, can they be shouting from any closer? i - be shouting from any closer? i thought— be shouting from any closer? i thought he did interview a bit earlier— thought he did interview a bit earlier on— thought he did interview a bit earlier on where you were talking to somebody— earlier on where you were talking to somebody in america and saying what else are _ somebody in america and saying what else are you _ somebody in america and saying what else are you talking about here? what _ else are you talking about here? what else — else are you talking about here? what else could it affect? this could — what else could it affect? this could affect who you marry, whether or not _ could affect who you marry, whether or not you _ could affect who you marry, whether or not you choose to conceive, whether— or not you choose to conceive, whether or _ or not you choose to conceive, whether or not you carry on with the pregnancy, — whether or not you carry on with the pregnancy, how you raise your child, it could _ pregnancy, how you raise your child, it could have — pregnancy, how you raise your child, it could have kind of go on from this to — it could have kind of go on from this to affect other things if it goes — this to affect other things if it goes through, if it goes through, and that's— goes through, if it goes through, and that's perhaps dumb... we still don't _ and that's perhaps dumb... we still don't know— and that's perhaps dumb... we still don't know who has leaked this either~ — don't know who has leaked this either~ so— don't know who has leaked this either. so we don't know what the point _ either. so we don't know what the point is _ either. so we don't know what the point is of— either. so we don't know what the point is of leaking that but they say it _ point is of leaking that but they say it could be same—sex marriages, access— say it could be same—sex marriages, access to _ say it could be same—sex marriages, access to contraception and all sorts— access to contraception and all sorts of— access to contraception and all sorts of other things. i thought there _ sorts of other things. i thought there was— sorts of other things. i thought there was a very chilling lot as well— there was a very chilling lot as well about the fact that it would mean _ well about the fact that it would mean that women in 2022 would have far fewer— mean that women in 2022 would have far fewer rights than their mothers. delighted _ far fewer rights than their mothers. delighted by the way that you were watching the news channel or little earlier, so thank you for that. i'm not going to ask you if you were, but i think the argument is on the other side that this should be decided by people's elected representatives rather than the supreme court. what do you make of it all? ., supreme court. what do you make of it all? . , ., , it all? the argument is it would be u- to it all? the argument is it would be up to states _ it all? the argument is it would be up to states to _ it all? the argument is it would be up to states to then _ it all? the argument is it would be up to states to then make - it all? the argument is it would be up to states to then make a - it all? the argument is it would be l up to states to then make a decision for the state and you've already seen southern states try to bring in limits in terms and moving it to

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