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province of kwazulu—natal are on high alert for further floods — as more rain is forecast in the area this weekend. at least 400 people are now known to have died. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are martin bentham, home affairs editor at the evening standard and broadcaster matthew stadlen. tomorrow's front pages. starting with: the observer leads with the archbishop of canterbury's criticism of the government's plan to send asylum seekers to rwanda — saying it is �*against of the nature of god.�* the archbishop's comments are also on the front of the sunday telegraph — he is expected to say in his easter sermon that he has �*serious ethical questions about sending asylum seekers overseas.�* �*priti heartless�* is how the sunday mirror describes the rwanda plan — saying that orphans of genocide will lose their home to make way for refugees from the uk. �*punish eco mob now!�* reads the front of the sunday express — claiming britain has lost patience with eco—extremists and wants to see police crack down on protests — that�*s according to a poll carried out by the paper. and the sunday times leads with a report that epilepsy medication has been given to pregnant women in the uk for decades without proper warnings and is thought to have damaged up to 20,000 babies. so let�*s begin. the observer. this is a really striking and perhaps surprising intervention by the archbishop of canterbury. not a political role but he is making a very strong criticism, isn�*t he? of the government�*s announcement this week. indeed he is. it couldn�*t be more powerfully timed. easter sunday is still an essential day for most of us in this country. we are still a christian country. we still have the church of england, an established church and this is the most senior anglican in the uk essentially calling boris johnson�*s anglican in the uk essentially calling borisjohnson�*s rwanda scheme ungodly, that it fails the test of god, that it fails the test of the responsibility as we have is a christian country. they will be in busily talking about what boris johnson is going to say on tuesday when parliament returns but this is really bad news, i think, for the government. because they may well have thought they have got away with it or got away with it for the moment. don�*t forget, the prime minister and the chancellor were fined for breaking their own laws just a couple of days or so ago and yet that is not what is on the front pages but what is on the front pages may be even more challenging. the fact that it also on the front page of the conservative leaning sunday telegraph i think is very telling indeed. , ., ., ., indeed. lets go to the telegraph and brin: in indeed. lets go to the telegraph and bring in martin- _ indeed. lets go to the telegraph and bring in martin. most _ indeed. lets go to the telegraph and bring in martin. most of— indeed. lets go to the telegraph and bring in martin. most of the - indeed. lets go to the telegraph and bring in martin. most of the papers l bring in martin. most of the papers have got the story very prominently run. they are again covering the fact that the archbishop has said this policy raises serious ethical questions and cannot stand the judgment of god. how damaging, in your view, will this be politically? it will be damaging for some people, clearly _ it will be damaging for some people, clearly. butjust for the story it will be damaging for some people, clearly. but just for the story and the fact _ clearly. but just for the story and the fact that it is on isjust straightforward the a good story from _ straightforward the a good story from a _ straightforward the a good story from a news point of view. they are tremendously strong words from the archbishop of canterbury who is the head of— archbishop of canterbury who is the head of the church in this country and so _ head of the church in this country and so on — head of the church in this country and so on. whatever your political view _ and so on. whatever your political view that — and so on. whatever your political view that and whatever the paper's political _ view that and whatever the paper's political view of it, it is a straightforward, strong story and that is_ straightforward, strong story and that is why it is on the front pages _ that is why it is on the front pages. the government is clearly calculated — pages. the government is clearly calculated that it is advantageous and it— calculated that it is advantageous and it will— calculated that it is advantageous and it will appeal to people who think— and it will appeal to people who think that the current system is not working _ think that the current system is not working for— think that the current system is not working for them to gain some political— working for them to gain some political advantage from it. on the flip political advantage from it. on the flip side _ political advantage from it. on the flip side their answer would be, i stippose. — flip side their answer would be, i suppose, the current system where people _ suppose, the current system where pe0pte are — suppose, the current system where people are beings smug about crimihat— people are beings smug about criminal gangs on boats and so on and lives — criminal gangs on boats and so on and lives are being lost is also not and lives are being lost is also not a christiah— and lives are being lost is also not a christian thing, not a good thing to happen — a christian thing, not a good thing to happen and this is an attempt to solve _ to happen and this is an attempt to solve it _ to happen and this is an attempt to solve it. , . ., to happen and this is an attempt to solve it. , _, , to happen and this is an attempt to solve it. , .., , solve it. they could bring in safe and leual solve it. they could bring in safe and legal roots _ solve it. they could bring in safe and legal roots as _ solve it. they could bring in safe and legal roots as they - solve it. they could bring in safe and legal roots as they have - solve it. they could bring in safe and legal roots as they have the | and legal roots as they have the people in ukraine, that is another option rather than this policy. the?t option rather than this policy. they contract to deliver _ option rather than this policy. they contract to deliver that _ option rather than this policy. they contract to deliver that to the people — contract to deliver that to the people did not have to do that and have more — people did not have to do that and have more systems. if there are routes _ have more systems. if there are routes for— have more systems. if there are routes for people from other countries, the parts of the world where _ countries, the parts of the world where similar problems were happening that would be a good solution — happening that would be a good solution. the government has promised _ solution. the government has promised to do that although it has not yet _ promised to do that although it has not yet delivered that. i promised to do that although it has not yet delivered that.— not yet delivered that. i don't think that _ not yet delivered that. i don't think that is _ not yet delivered that. i don't think that is the _ not yet delivered that. i don't think that is the plan - not yet delivered that. i don't think that is the plan at - not yet delivered that. i don't think that is the plan at the i not yet delivered that. i don't - think that is the plan at the moment at all. let�*s look at the sunday mirror which is showing heartless. they�*re talking about orphans of the genocide in rwanda in the last two decades in one of the hostels being mentioned as a place that uk asylum seekers could be sent and those children will be, as they say, booted out by priti patel�*s policy. that is one example of what will happen on the ground. there will be a lot of focus as to how this is going to work if it does actually, indeed, come to pass. i going to work if it does actually, indeed, come to pass.— going to work if it does actually, indeed, come to pass. i would love to to as indeed, come to pass. i would love to go as a — indeed, come to pass. i would love to go as a tourist. _ indeed, come to pass. i would love to go as a tourist. dispersed - indeed, come to pass. i would love to go as a tourist. dispersed to - indeed, come to pass. i would love to go as a tourist. dispersed to be | to go as a tourist. dispersed to be an unbelievably beautiful country but the _ an unbelievably beautiful country but the idea that people his parents were murdered in the genocide of 1994. _ were murdered in the genocide of 1994. so— were murdered in the genocide of 1994, so they could be 28, 29, 30. could _ 1994, so they could be 28, 29, 30. could be _ 1994, so they could be 28, 29, 30. could be turfed out of their home in order— could be turfed out of their home in order to _ could be turfed out of their home in order to make way for people that we don't want _ order to make way for people that we don't want to settle here and are sent to _ don't want to settle here and are sent to rwanda i think is pretty revottihg~ — sent to rwanda i think is pretty revolting. a lot of people will feel that as _ revolting. a lot of people will feel that as well. one of the things that ithink— that as well. one of the things that i think should be pointed out is boris _ i think should be pointed out is borisjohnson, the same time as wahtihg — borisjohnson, the same time as wanting rwanda to be a deterrent so that people don't lose their lives and it— that people don't lose their lives and it is— that people don't lose their lives and it is horrific what is going on in the _ and it is horrific what is going on in the channel. everything what people — in the channel. everything what people smugglers are doing, he is trying _ people smugglers are doing, he is trying to— people smugglers are doing, he is trying to suggest that rwanda would be a deterrent at the same time as saying _ be a deterrent at the same time as saying wett— be a deterrent at the same time as saying well it is all 0k. it is a lovely— saying well it is all 0k. it is a lovely place. rwanda's president has been in _ lovely place. rwanda's president has been in power think the nearly three decades _ been in power think the nearly three decades. this is a man accused of being _ decades. this is a man accused of being a _ decades. this is a man accused of being a dictator, crushing opposition and accused of multiple human— opposition and accused of multiple human rights abuses sol opposition and accused of multiple human rights abuses so i don't personally think others will disagree, i don't personally think that the — disagree, i don't personally think that the way to crack down on the cruelty— that the way to crack down on the cruelty of— that the way to crack down on the cruelty of the illegal trade in migrants is to institute a state backed — migrants is to institute a state backed crew plan like this one. we will backed crew plan like this one. will move on backed crew plan like this one. - will move on from this because if this was part of the government�*s plan to bounce their own party problems of the front page maybe it has succeeded in that sense of their party gate is on the front page of the observer also. there had then says senior tories fear party gate will alienate traditional vote in there saying they are worried that traditional tory supporters are abandoning them after boris johnson�*s party gate fine is another mp, the conservative mp has broken cover to say the prime minister should be removed over his conduct. this will be the crucial test for the prime minster going forward. the disclosure that he has been fined for his birthday celebration but clearly the party gate saga is not over yet with more fines issued, potentially more vines to the prime minister because of the events he was at the crucial thing politically is of course when it first broke everyone was thinking and lots of tory mps were saying we have lost confidence in him, he must go and it was getting quite close to the number of votes required for a vote of confidence. the ukrainian war intervened and the heat has gone off a little bit at the moment but it does depend crucially on what tory mps think. the voters in general, the conservative vote in particular who they rely on to get them back into parliament in the next election, ourthinking. into parliament in the next election, our thinking. and as soon as they start to think that actually, those people lost confidence in boris would vote the government in the next election he becomes particularly dangerous and thatis becomes particularly dangerous and that is the crucial test for him. that remains issue as to how that evolves and what public opinion more generally is over the coming weeks and months as the saga drags on. the next few days going to be pretty interesting, arrant they? the commons returns. mps such as the green mp caroline lucas trying to get borisjohnson referred to for investigation because they are being given these vines which is an unprecedented outcome isn�*t it? this unprecedented outcome isn't it? this is unprecedented outcome isn't it? ti 3 is extraordinary and it is extraordinary this is not on the front page of the sunday papers which i suppose is a credit, awaken to the borisjohnsonteam that they�*ve been able to take the heat off him in this way although the unforeseen consequences they are being laid into by the archbishop. it borisjohnson will try to do on tuesdayis it borisjohnson will try to do on tuesday is deflect from party gate. you�*ll be humble, he will apologise but he�*ll probably emphasise the fact that on the day he was being issued with this vine of the fire was announced he was on the phone to present biden talking about much more important things as you would like us to see it, about support for ukraine. as martin says, these vines are dribbling out. this party is the least of his worries and so those in downing street will be very concerned about what happens next. he is highly likely, i suspect, to get more fines. if the tories are hammered in the local elections in may there�*s going to be a very deep—seated sense of unease among conservative mps because don�*t forget they are there essentially to serve their constituents and to protect their seats and if they think that boris johnson protect their seats and if they think that borisjohnson is becoming an electoral liability i think they were dropping like a hot head of the general election. lie its were dropping like a hot head of the general election.— general election. us is available? that is the _ general election. us is available? that is the other _ general election. us is available? that is the other crucial _ general election. us is available? that is the other crucial thing. - general election. us is available? | that is the other crucial thing. you have to ask yourself, if you are a tory mp, for example, here are you going to go for instead? priti patel not ranking highly with some people. and that is one of the things that helps them. the chancellor has been damaged by what has happened in the last week the zone fine and the non—dom tax row over his wife. unless you�*ve got an obvious replacement that can be a way to keep hold of yourjob. we will see. let mejust move keep hold of yourjob. we will see. let me just move on, keep hold of yourjob. we will see. let mejust move on, if i can, the sunday times are reporting a drug scandal that they say damaged 20,000 babies. matthew, can you explain this very briefly? we don�*t have a lot of but it is a story we wanted to cover. you�*ll make anyone who has had or is about to have a baby, this will send shivers down there spines. 0ne will send shivers down there spines. one of the worst imaginable thing is that if you go through nine of pregnancy, you go through weber and then your baby is born disabled either mentally or physically and thatis either mentally or physically and that is what it seems has happened. up that is what it seems has happened. up to 20,000 babies. pregnant women have been continuing to be prescribed and anti—epilepsy drugs that can be harmfulfor the prescribed and anti—epilepsy drugs that can be harmful for the features they are nourishing inside their bodies and doctors, not all doctors have been giving them sufficient warnings. this is a drug that you should only take if you�*re pregnant with epilepsy if there are no alternatives. but whether or not you should take it is up to you and you should take it is up to you and you should be for the informed and this, unfortunately, tragically does not seem to have been the case. very briefly, the sunday times quoting jeremy hunt saying this does recall thalidomide. it jeremy hunt saying this does recall thalidomide-— jeremy hunt saying this does recall thalidomide. , , , ., thalidomide. it seems very bad that a roblem thalidomide. it seems very bad that a problem has _ thalidomide. it seems very bad that a problem has emerged _ thalidomide. it seems very bad that a problem has emerged that - thalidomide. it seems very bad that a problem has emerged that has . thalidomide. it seems very bad that i a problem has emerged that has been known about and then the drug is still being used. we don�*t know exactly what the story is or why it is being used and prescribed clearly it is risk from something then you should not be dispensing it to more people. it should be stopping their inanities comments are very pertinent in this respect. i expect we will leave it there. that�*s it for this hour. the papers will be back again tomorrow evening with writer and broadcaster kate bevan and political editor at politics home, adam payne. dojoin us then if you can but for now, goodnight. hello and welcome to the film review on bbc news. to take us through next week�*s cinema releases is anna smith. anna, what have we got this week? we�*ve got a real mix, kind of something for everyone in a way. we�*ve got upper 0peration mincemeat, which is the 1940s kind of wartime spy thriller starring colin firth and matthew mcfadden. then we�*re going to the jungle for the lost city. this is a romantic comedy with sandra bullock and channing tatum, quite different in flavour. and then finally, we are off to 17th century italy for benedetta, which is the true—ish story of a lesbian nun from controversial director paul verhoeven. 0k. it�*s a pretty intriguing mix. let�*s kick off with 0peration mincemeat, which was the subject of a book by ben macintyre. it�*s an absolutely incredible story, isn�*t it?

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