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as we sort those technical problems out, let's turn to that case in new york. prince andrew has demanded a jury trial as he seeks to defend the civil sex case that has been brought by virginia giuffre, according to legal documents filed by his lawyer in new york. it was reported he might have to pay more than $5 million to his accuser to persuade her to settle, although mr giuffre has signalled before that she wanted to a proceed to a court trial. the duke has strenuously denied the allegations she is making. our correspondent nada tawfik is in new york. this is a formal response by prince andrew's legal team to virginia giuffre�*s complaint, and so in it, he goes through every allegation in the complaint line by line and either denies or admits to the assertions in the complaint. so, for example, he denies all allegations of sexual abuse with virginia giuffre on the three occasions that she alleges when she was 17 in the us virgin islands, and london and new york. he also denies that virginia giuffre was lent out to prince andrew byjeffrey epstein for sexual purposes. what's interesting is he comments on that notorious photo that exists of prince andrew with his arm around virginia giuffre with his arm around virginia giuffre with ghislaine maxwell in the background. in the legal document, it says that he lacked sufficient information to admit or deny the existence of photographic evidence, and of course we know in the past he has questioned whether that photo was in fact doctored. he also questions other assertions that are made in the complaint, things of the fact that they say he threw ghislaine maxwell a birthday party in burnley in 2015. and so it really goes through as i say all of these allegations and so this is now a legal record of prince andrew's position. former federal prosecutor joe moreno is with us. good to see you again let's talk about what happens next. can first of all anybody in new york requested a jury trial because you cannot do that here in the uk? it’s a jury trial because you cannot do that here in the uk?— that here in the uk? it's a fairly common request when - that here in the uk? it's a fairly common request when you - that here in the uk? it's a fairly| common request when you want that here in the uk? it's a fairly - common request when you want your case to— common request when you want your case to be — common request when you want your case to be heard. you want maximum exposure _ case to be heard. you want maximum exposure because you feel you have been robbed, and so that's an effort that i_ been robbed, and so that's an effort that i see _ been robbed, and so that's an effort that i see by the plaintiff come up virginia _ that i see by the plaintiff come up virginia giuffre, to say i want my day in _ virginia giuffre, to say i want my day in court _ virginia giuffre, to say i want my day in court on to be heard in front of a day in court on to be heard in front of 6 jury and — day in court on to be heard in front ofaiuryand i_ day in court on to be heard in front of a jury and i want my story told to the _ of a jury and i want my story told to the world. do of a jury and i want my story told to the world.— of a jury and i want my story told to the world. , ., ~ ., to the world. do you think then that this has come _ to the world. do you think then that this has come through _ to the world. do you think then that this has come through a _ to the world. do you think then that this has come through a note - to the world. do you think then that this has come through a note that l this has come through a note that the lawyers for prince andrew has sent to the judge, do you think they are in a position where a settlement would have been to be expensive, too prohibitive that they had to go for a jury trial?— a jury trial? difficult disables of ou can a jury trial? difficult disables of you can certainly _ a jury trial? difficult disables of you can certainly have - a jury trial? difficult disables of you can certainly have a - a jury trial? difficult disables of - you can certainly have a settlement further _ you can certainly have a settlement further down the road and it would shock— further down the road and it would shock me — further down the road and it would shock me not between now and its route _ shock me not between now and its route to see that happen, and sometimes though there are cases where _ sometimes though there are cases where no _ sometimes though there are cases where no amount of money will make them _ where no amount of money will make them go _ where no amount of money will make them go away. there are times when again— them go away. there are times when again a _ them go away. there are times when again a victim wants their day in court. _ again a victim wants their day in court. and— again a victim wants their day in court, and so a settlement may have been _ court, and so a settlement may have been attempted for all we know it may have — been attempted for all we know it may have just been rebuffed. asl may have just been rebuffed. as i understand _ may have just been rebuffed. as i understand it, _ may have just been rebuffed. is i understand it, the next stage in the process is discovery in which the duke would have to give evidence under oath. how does that work with matt so what we saw just recently was an attempt... matt so what we saw 'ust recently was an attempt. . .— matt so what we saw 'ust recently was an attempt... what we saw was an attem -t to was an attempt... what we saw was an attempt to have — was an attempt... what we saw was an attempt to have the _ was an attempt... what we saw was an attempt to have the case _ was an attempt... what we saw was an attempt to have the case dismissed - attempt to have the case dismissed and now— attempt to have the case dismissed and now that that has failed, you are right, — and now that that has failed, you are right, we move to discovery, which _ are right, we move to discovery, which means documents, which means depositions _ which means documents, which means depositions also known as witness statements, and a process by which the plaintiff is entitled to virtually any piece of information if at att— virtually any piece of information if at all relevant to her case. it's very— if at all relevant to her case. it's very broad _ if at all relevant to her case. it's very broad. there is no diplomatic immunity. — very broad. there is no diplomatic immunity, no restrictions effectively on what she can ask for and the _ effectively on what she can ask for and the process to move along fairly quickly you — and the process to move along fairly quickly. you will see over the next few months. quickly. you will see over the next few months— few months. dusty prince poz but little jeepardy _ few months. dusty prince poz but little jeepardy go _ few months. dusty prince poz but little jeepardy 90 pp _ few months. dusty prince poz but little jeopardy go up a _ few months. dusty prince poz but little jeopardy go up a notch - few months. dusty prince poz but| little jeopardy go up a notch here? because if he is giving evidence under oath and he is asking questions which you might not have answered before, is there a risk that that might later be used in a criminal trial? it’s that that might later be used in a criminal trial?— criminal trial? it's always a risk, riuht? criminal trial? it's always a risk, right? and _ criminal trial? it's always a risk, right? and when _ criminal trial? it's always a risk, right? and when you _ criminal trial? it's always a risk, right? and when you see - criminal trial? it's always a risk, right? and when you see civil. criminal trial? it's always a risk, l right? and when you see civil and criminal— right? and when you see civil and criminal proceedings moving in parallel— criminal proceedings moving in parallel like this, there's always the possibility that one could affect — the possibility that one could affect the other. like i said there is really— affect the other. like i said there is really no — affect the other. like i said there is really no ability to not answer questions — is really no ability to not answer questions in a civil case. if they are relevant to the plaintiff's case, — are relevant to the plaintiff's case, so, _ are relevant to the plaintiff's case, so, yes, anything that can be said on— case, so, yes, anything that can be said on the — case, so, yes, anything that can be said on the record now certainly could _ said on the record now certainly could come back and haunt the prints later _ could come back and haunt the prints later. an— could come back and haunt the prints later. �* ., could come back and haunt the prints later. �* s, , s, s, later. all right, final question on this point. _ later. all right, final question on this point, jeffrey _ later. all right, final question on this point, jeffrey epstein - later. all right, final question on | this point, jeffrey epstein settled this point, jeffrey epstein settled with virginia giuffre, many people saw that as an admission of guilt and presumably the prince and his lawyers have thought about that, that if they were to make a similar settlement, it would be interpreted here in the uk as an admission of guilt. here in the uk as an admission of auilt. ~ ., here in the uk as an admission of i uilt, . ., , , , guilt. well, in the legal system here, we guilt. well, in the legal system here. we go — guilt. well, in the legal system here, we go out— guilt. well, in the legal system here, we go out of— guilt. well, in the legal system here, we go out of our- guilt. well, in the legal system here, we go out of our way - guilt. well, in the legal system here, we go out of our way to l guilt. well, in the legal system . here, we go out of our way to note that a _ here, we go out of our way to note that a settlement is not an admission of guilt, right? it's a meeting — admission of guilt, right? it's a meeting in— admission of guilt, right? it's a meeting in the middle between two parties _ meeting in the middle between two parties who have some legal battle and its— parties who have some legal battle and it's a _ parties who have some legal battle and it's a way for both parties to put in the — and it's a way for both parties to put in the weapons and walk away. that being — put in the weapons and walk away. that being said, in the real world, sure, _ that being said, in the real world, sure, settlements can be viewed in the political arena as perhaps an admission— the political arena as perhaps an admission of guilt people consider that all— admission of guilt people consider that all the time so it certainly something that has to be a consideration along with any financial— consideration along with any financial issues as to whether or not a _ financial issues as to whether or not a settlement is possible in a case _ not a settlement is possible in a case like — not a settlement is possible in a case like this.— not a settlement is possible in a case like this. and is a settlement therefore often _ case like this. and is a settlement therefore often able _ case like this. and is a settlement therefore often able permanently| case like this. and is a settlement i therefore often able permanently or now that he has opted for a jury trial to mckinney he get a settlement at a different time? you can aet a settlement at a different time? you can get a settlement at a different time and _ can get a settlement at a different time and you can go up to an even during— time and you can go up to an even during a— time and you can go up to an even during a trial — time and you can go up to an even during a trialand time and you can go up to an even during a trial and that often happens. what will happen now is a part of— happens. what will happen now is a part of took— happens. what will happen now is a part of took a step back and go to discovery— part of took a step back and go to discovery process and this will play its course — discovery process and this will play its course for the next 9—12 months probably— its course for the next 9—12 months probably see a trial sometime later this year— probably see a trial sometime later this year up in new york, but at any point _ this year up in new york, but at any point out _ this year up in new york, but at any point out to— this year up in new york, but at any point out to that point, the parties can come — point out to that point, the parties can come back to the table, have discussions — can come back to the table, have discussions and reach a settlement and that's— discussions and reach a settlement and that's very common that that happen— and that's very common that that happen so— and that's very common that that happen so it would not shock me one bit. ., , , s, happen so it would not shock me one bit. ., , , ., .,. bit. ok, the lawyers who were acting for vir: inia bit. ok, the lawyers who were acting for virginia giuffre _ bit. ok, the lawyers who were acting for virginia giuffre said _ bit. ok, the lawyers who were acting for virginia giuffre said they - bit. ok, the lawyers who were acting for virginia giuffre said they had - for virginia giuffre said they had gone into a tolling agreement which would have given them time to negotiate a settlement privately, so although she said time and again that she wants her day in court, would you imagine that a negotiation of a settlement has already unfolded?— of a settlement has already unfolded? m, ~' , of a settlement has already unfolded? ~.,, ,, , , unfolded? most likely. there is usually an _ unfolded? most likely. there is usually an open _ unfolded? most likely. there is usually an open dialogue - unfolded? most likely. there is. usually an open dialogue between lawyers _ usually an open dialogue between lawyers in any case no matter how explosive. — lawyers in any case no matter how explosive, how high headline the case is _ explosive, how high headline the case is. they are usually these conversations going on behind the scenes. _ conversations going on behind the scenes. so— conversations going on behind the scenes, so i imagine they have been going _ scenes, so i imagine they have been going on— scenes, so i imagine they have been going on within you to go on. we can brin: in going on within you to go on. we can bring in one — going on within you to go on. we can bring in one member _ going on within you to go on. we can bring in one member of _ going on within you to go on. we can bring in one member of our - going on within you to go on. we can bring in one member of our panel- bring in one member of our panel who is here and that is amanda renteria who is a right to sparejoe for a second. in the celebrity court cases in america, a trial of prince andrew, that would be sensational and the messy concern in the assessment here in the uk that they will be all sorts of focus on it? everyone will be focused on it. one of the _ everyone will be focused on it. one of the things — everyone will be focused on it. one of the things that _ everyone will be focused on it. one of the things that we _ everyone will be focused on it. one of the things that we like _ everyone will be focused on it. one of the things that we like here - everyone will be focused on it. one of the things that we like here is i of the things that we like here is to involve — of the things that we like here is to involve ourselves _ of the things that we like here is to involve ourselves in _ of the things that we like here is to involve ourselves in watchingl to involve ourselves in watching these _ to involve ourselves in watching these cases. _ to involve ourselves in watching these cases, celebrity- to involve ourselves in watching these cases, celebrity cases - to involve ourselves in watchingj these cases, celebrity cases are to involve ourselves in watching l these cases, celebrity cases are a bil these cases, celebrity cases are a big thing — these cases, celebrity cases are a big thing and _ these cases, celebrity cases are a big thing and i_ these cases, celebrity cases are a big thing. and i think— these cases, celebrity cases are a big thing. and i think right- these cases, celebrity cases are a big thing. and i think right now. big thing. and i think right now with— big thing. and i think right now with so— big thing. and i think right now with so many— big thing. and i think right now with so many people _ big thing. and i think right now with so many people still- big thing. and i think right now with so many people still at - big thing. and i think right now. with so many people still at home trying _ with so many people still at home trying to— with so many people still at home trying to figure _ with so many people still at home trying to figure out _ with so many people still at home trying to figure out what - with so many people still at home trying to figure out what 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doubt this is one of those _ going on and there is no doubt this is one of those people _ going on and there is no doubt this is one of those people are - going on and there is no doubt this| is one of those people are going be watching _ is one of those people are going be watching here — is one of those people are going be watching here in _ is one of those people are going be watching here in america _ is one of those people are going be watching here in america as - watching here in america as well. thats— watching here in america as well. that's lreen— watching here in america as well. that's been a _ watching here in america as well. that's been a big _ watching here in america as well. that's been a big piece _ watching here in america as well. that's been a big piece of- watching here in america as well. that's been a big piece of it. - watching here in america as well. that's been a big piece of it. try. that's been a big piece of it. try would get _ that's been a big piece of it. would get one in august if that's been a big piece of it.- would get one in august if they do get to a trial and let's move on from that and focus on the big news that's coming from the us supreme court today and... big news from the us supreme court today — justice stephen breyer has announced he will retire later this year after nearly three decades on the bench. justice breyer is 83 years old. his retirement givesjoe biden a chance to nominate the first black woman to the bench. supreme courtjustices serve for life, and with the prospect the democrats could lose their slender senate majority in this year's mid—term elections, this will unfold quickly. joe, do you think he was pushed because he is been asked many times about whether he was going to stand down? there is some concern that maybe he was bounced into it. supreme courtjustices, they reside at such— supreme courtjustices, they reside at such an _ supreme courtjustices, they reside at such an elevated height of the political— at such an elevated height of the political spectrum here in the in america — political spectrum here in the in america come don't think any of them would _ america come don't think any of them would get _ america come don't think any of them would get pushed. that being said, they must— would get pushed. that being said, they must have been tremendous political— they must have been tremendous political pressure on the justice because — political pressure on the justice because exactly the point you raised — because exactly the point you raised. democrats hold the senate today— raised. democrats hold the senate today and — raised. democrats hold the senate today and it's a 50—50 tie with the vice president breaking any type and they could _ vice president breaking any type and they could very well lose that majority _ they could very well lose that majority in november and that will make _ majority in november and that will make a _ majority in november and that will make a confirmation impossible but certainly _ make a confirmation impossible but certainly difficult. so, yes, the probably— certainly difficult. so, yes, the probably had some interested parties hoping _ probably had some interested parties hoping the justice would retire this year to— hoping the justice would retire this year to get president biden that opportunity that so many presidents aspire _ opportunity that so many presidents aspire to, _ opportunity that so many presidents aspire to, which is often seen as a supreme — aspire to, which is often seen as a supreme court nomination as the most consequential action a us president can take _ consequential action a us president can take. we consequential action a us president can take. ~ ., s, can take. we will look at some of the polling _ can take. we will look at some of the polling letter _ can take. we will look at some of the polling letter in _ can take. we will look at some of the polling letter in the _ can take. we will look at some of l the polling letter in the programme but clearlyjoe biden's figures underwater at the moment and here is a chance to make his first pick on the supreme court and by all accounts is going to be an african american woman, which he would think would raise his numbers among the african—american community. this would raise his numbers among the african-american community. this is a ve bi african-american community. this is a very big news _ african-american community. this is a very big news day _ african-american community. this is a very big news day for _ african-american community. this is a very big news day for the _ a very big news day for the democratic— a very big news day for the democratic party— a very big news day for the democratic party on - a very big news day for the democratic party on a - a very big news day for the . democratic party on a number a very big news day for the - democratic party on a number of different— democratic party on a number of different fronts. _ democratic party on a number of different fronts. not _ democratic party on a number of different fronts. not only- democratic party on a number ofl different fronts. not only because president — different fronts. not only because president biden— different fronts. not only because president biden can _ different fronts. not only because president biden can actually - different fronts. not only because president biden can actually nowl president biden can actually now deliver— president biden can actually now deliver on— president biden can actually now deliver on a _ president biden can actually now deliver on a key— president biden can actually now deliver on a key promise - president biden can actually now deliver on a key promise that. president biden can actually now deliver on a key promise that he| deliver on a key promise that he made. _ deliver on a key promise that he made. but — deliver on a key promise that he made. but it— deliver on a key promise that he made, but it has— deliver on a key promise that he made, but it has been— deliver on a key promise that he made, but it has been true - deliver on a key promise that he made, but it has been true that| made, but it has been true that there _ made, but it has been true that there have _ made, but it has been true that there have been _ made, but it has been true that there have been a _ made, but it has been true that there have been a lot— made, but it has been true that there have been a lot of- made, but it has been true that there have been a lot of letters| there have been a lot of letters and professors — there have been a lot of letters and professors writing _ there have been a lot of letters and professors writing and _ there have been a lot of letters and professors writing and saying - there have been a lot of letters and professors writing and saying it - there have been a lot of letters and professors writing and saying it is l professors writing and saying it is time _ professors writing and saying it is time for— professors writing and saying it is time for him _ professors writing and saying it is time for him to— professors writing and saying it is time for him to step _ professors writing and saying it is time for him to step down - professors writing and saying it is time for him to step down and . professors writing and saying it is time for him to step down and soj time for him to step down and so there has— time for him to step down and so there has been— time for him to step down and so there has been not— time for him to step down and so there has been notjust _ time for him to step down and so there has been notjust behind i time for him to step down and so. there has been notjust behind the scenes pressure _ there has been notjust behind the scenes pressure but— there has been notjust behind the scenes pressure but you've - there has been notjust behind thei scenes pressure but you've actually seen quite — scenes pressure but you've actually seen quite a — scenes pressure but you've actually seen quite a bit _ scenes pressure but you've actually seen quite a bit of— scenes pressure but you've actually seen quite a bit of a _ scenes pressure but you've actually seen quite a bit of a conversation . seen quite a bit of a conversation about— seen quite a bit of a conversation about this — seen quite a bit of a conversation about this particularly _ seen quite a bit of a conversation about this particularly because i about this particularly because everybody _ about this particularly because everybody knows _ about this particularly because everybody knows what - about this particularly becausel everybody knows what happens about this particularly because . everybody knows what happens in midterms — everybody knows what happens in midterms and _ everybody knows what happens in midterms. and we _ everybody knows what happens in midterms. and we have _ everybody knows what happens in midterms. and we have seen- everybody knows what happens in midterms. and we have seen and| everybody knows what happens in - midterms. and we have seen and time again— midterms. and we have seen and time again on— midterms. and we have seen and time again on voting — midterms. and we have seen and time again on voting rights, _ midterms. and we have seen and time again on voting rights, on _ midterms. and we have seen and time again on voting rights, on women's - again on voting rights, on women's rights, _ again on voting rights, on women's rights, the — again on voting rights, on women's rights, the supreme _ again on voting rights, on women's rights, the supreme court- again on voting rights, on women's rights, the supreme court way- again on voting rights, on women's rights, the supreme court way in. again on voting rights, on women's rights, the supreme court way in if| rights, the supreme court way in if there _ rights, the supreme court way in if there has— rights, the supreme court way in if there has been— rights, the supreme court way in if there has been a _ rights, the supreme court way in if there has been a enormous- rights, the supreme court way in if. there has been a enormous pressure but more _ there has been a enormous pressure but more to— there has been a enormous pressure but more to the _ there has been a enormous pressure but more to the point, _ there has been a enormous pressure but more to the point, now- there has been a enormous pressurel but more to the point, now president biden— but more to the point, now president biden has— but more to the point, now president biden has a _ but more to the point, now president biden has a chance _ but more to the point, now president biden has a chance to— but more to the point, now president biden has a chance to deliver- but more to the point, now president biden has a chance to deliver on - but more to the point, now president biden has a chance to deliver on a . biden has a chance to deliver on a promise _ biden has a chance to deliver on a promise and the _ biden has a chance to deliver on a promise and the democratic- biden has a chance to deliver on a promise and the democratic partyj biden has a chance to deliver on a - promise and the democratic party has a chance _ promise and the democratic party has a chance to _ promise and the democratic party has a chance to finally _ promise and the democratic party has a chance to finally put _ promise and the democratic party has a chance to finally put a _ promise and the democratic party has a chance to finally put a new- a chance to finally put a new perspective _ a chance to finally put a new perspective of _ a chance to finally put a new perspective of lived - a chance to finally put a new. perspective of lived experience a chance to finally put a new- perspective of lived experience of a black— perspective of lived experience of a black woman — perspective of lived experience of a black woman on _ perspective of lived experience of a black woman on the _ perspective of lived experience of a black woman on the bench, - perspective of lived experience of a black woman on the bench, and - perspective of lived experience of al black woman on the bench, and this really— black woman on the bench, and this really is _ black woman on the bench, and this really is generally— black woman on the bench, and this really is generally a _ black woman on the bench, and this really is generally a unifying - really is generally a unifying process— really is generally a unifying process for— really is generally a unifying process for the _ really is generally a unifying process for the party- really is generally a unifying process for the party so - really is generally a unifying process for the party so we i really is generally a unifying i process for the party so we are really is generally a unifying - process for the party so we are not talking _ process for the party so we are not talking as — process for the party so we are not talking as much _ process for the party so we are not talking as much about _ process for the party so we are not talking as much about build - process for the party so we are not talking as much about build back. talking as much about build back better or— talking as much about build back better or talking _ talking as much about build back better or talking about _ talking as much about build back better or talking about the - better or talking about the filibuster, _ better or talking about the filibuster, there _ better or talking about the filibuster, there really- better or talking about the filibuster, there really is l better or talking about the filibuster, there really is a| better or talking about the - filibuster, there really is a moment now to _ filibuster, there really is a moment now to talk— filibuster, there really is a moment now to talk about _ filibuster, there really is a moment now to talk about the _ filibuster, there really is a moment now to talk about the values - filibuster, there really is a moment now to talk about the values of- filibuster, there really is a moment now to talk about the values of the | now to talk about the values of the democratic— now to talk about the values of the democratic party— now to talk about the values of the democratic party and _ now to talk about the values of the democratic party and this - now to talk about the values of the | democratic party and this president and what _ democratic party and this president and what it— democratic party and this president and what it means _ democratic party and this president and what it means for— democratic party and this president and what it means for the - democratic party and this president and what it means for the future . democratic party and this president and what it means for the future of| and what it means for the future of our country — and what it means for the future of our country to _ and what it means for the future of our country to have _ and what it means for the future of our country to have a _ and what it means for the future of our country to have a supreme - and what it means for the future of. our country to have a supreme court have more _ our country to have a supreme court have more lived — our country to have a supreme court have more lived experience - our country to have a supreme court have more lived experience and - our country to have a supreme court have more lived experience and newj have more lived experience and new perspectives— have more lived experience and new perspectives on _ have more lived experience and new perspectives on the _ have more lived experience and new perspectives on the bench. - have more lived experience and new perspectives on the bench.- perspectives on the bench. talking about two of— perspectives on the bench. talking about two of the _ perspectives on the bench. talking about two of the names _ perspectives on the bench. talking about two of the names put - perspectives on the bench. talking | about two of the names put forward so far and one of them is a former law clerk to stephen breyer and there is another who serves on the california supreme court and do you know either of these two women? i don't know them well and i know thereby— don't know them well and i know thereby also— don't know them well and i know thereby also may _ don't know them well and i know thereby also may have _ don't know them well and i know thereby also may have been - don't know them well and i know thereby also may have been in. don't know them well and i know. thereby also may have been in the mix for— thereby also may have been in the mix for a _ thereby also may have been in the mix for a while _ thereby also may have been in the mix for a while talking _ thereby also may have been in the mix for a while talking about - thereby also may have been in the mix for a while talking about black women, _ mix for a while talking about black women, leaders, _ mix for a while talking about black women, leaders, judges _ mix for a while talking about black women, leaders, judges and - women, leaders, judges and particularly in _ women, leaders, judges and particularly in women - women, leaders, judges and particularly in women of - women, leaders, judges and . particularly in women of colour women, leaders, judges and - particularly in women of colour who were _ particularly in women of colour who were often— particularly in women of colour who were often working _ were often working | behind—the—scenes. were often working - behind—the—scenes. where were often working _ behind—the—scenes. where is a talent? — behind—the—scenes. where is a talent? where _ behind—the—scenes. where is a talent? where are _ behind—the—scenes. where is a talent? where are the new- behind—the—scenes. where is a - talent? where are the new leaders? and so— talent? where are the new leaders? and so they— talent? where are the new leaders? and so they are _ talent? where are the new leaders? and so they are well— talent? where are the new leaders? and so they are well known - talent? where are the new leaders? and so they are well known to - and so they are well known to folks behind _ and so they are well known to folks behind the — and so they are well known to folks behind the scenes— and so they are well known to folks behind the scenes who _ and so they are well known to folks behind the scenes who have - and so they are well known to folks behind the scenes who have been. behind the scenes who have been building _ behind the scenes who have been building the — behind the scenes who have been building the list— behind the scenes who have been building the list for— behind the scenes who have been building the list for this _ building the list for this administration - building the list for this administration and - building the list for this administration and for. building the list for this . administration and for the administrations— administration and for the administrations of- administration and for the administrations of the - administration and for the i administrations of the past administration and for the - administrations of the past and so in that— administrations of the past and so in that sense, _ administrations of the past and so in that sense, there _ administrations of the past and so in that sense, there is— administrations of the past and so in that sense, there is a _ administrations of the past and so in that sense, there is a real- in that sense, there is a real excitement— in that sense, there is a real excitement that _ in that sense, there is a real excitement that there - in that sense, there is a real excitement that there is - in that sense, there is a real excitement that there is not| in that sense, there is a real- excitement that there is not just one or— excitement that there is not just one or two — excitement that there is not just one or two names— excitement that there is not just one or two names but— excitement that there is not just one or two names but there - excitement that there is not just one or two names but there arei excitement that there is not justl one or two names but there are a handful— one or two names but there are a handful of— one or two names but there are a handful of names _ one or two names but there are a handful of names out _ one or two names but there are a handful of names out there - one or two names but there are a handful of names out there in - one or two names but there are aj handful of names out there in the question— handful of names out there in the question is— handful of names out there in the question is when _ handful of names out there in the question is when you _ handful of names out there in the question is when you start - handful of names out there in the question is when you start move i handful of names out there in the . question is when you start move this forward _ question is when you start move this forward and — question is when you start move this forward and it— question is when you start move this forward and it is— question is when you start move this forward and it is a _ question is when you start move this forward and it is a fast— question is when you start move this forward and it is a fast process. we i forward and it is a fast process. we don't _ forward and it is a fast process. we don't have — forward and it is a fast process. we don't have a — forward and it is a fast process. we don't have a lot _ forward and it is a fast process. we don't have a lot of _ forward and it is a fast process. we don't have a lot of time to- forward and it is a fast process. we don't have a lot of time to make i don't have a lot of time to make sure _ don't have a lot of time to make sure to — don't have a lot of time to make sure to go — don't have a lot of time to make sure to go to— don't have a lot of time to make sure to go to the _ don't have a lot of time to make sure to go to the committee - don't have a lot of time to makej sure to go to the committee and people can — sure to go to the committee and people can be _ sure to go to the committee and people can be vetted _ sure to go to the committee and people can be vetted and - sure to go to the committee and people can be vetted and all - sure to go to the committee and - people can be vetted and all the way to the _ people can be vetted and all the way to the process — people can be vetted and all the way to the process. joe, _ people can be vetted and all the way to the process-— to the process. joe, do you know either of the _ to the process. joe, do you know either of the women? _ to the process. joe, do you know either of the women? i - to the process. joe, do you know either of the women? i had - to the process. joe, do you know- either of the women? i had appeared before judge — either of the women? i had appeared before judge jackson _ either of the women? i had appeared before judge jackson brown - either of the women? i had appeared before judge jackson brown here - either of the women? i had appeared before judge jackson brown here in l before judge jackson brown here in dc and _ before judge jackson brown here in dc and she is brilliant and would be an excellent choice and she was recently — an excellent choice and she was recently elevated to the court of appeals — recently elevated to the court of appeals here in washington, dc, and ithink— appeals here in washington, dc, and i think that _ appeals here in washington, dc, and i think that president biden will have _ i think that president biden will have a — i think that president biden will have a deep bench of outstanding candidates and i think he will have no issues — candidates and i think he will have no issues finding an individual who will serve — no issues finding an individual who will serve very well in this ring court~ — will serve very well in this ring court. . s will serve very well in this ring court. ., ,, ., court. talking about the timing, the will court. talking about the timing, they will clearly _ court. talking about the timing, they will clearly look _ court. talking about the timing, they will clearly look at - court. talking about the timing, they will clearly look at the - they will clearly look at the confirmation and the nomination and confirmation and the nomination and confirmation of any 20 barrett which happen within four weeks we will think back to before the 2020 election and can they can they run through that process beforejustice stephen breyer stance tentatively have to stand out first? thea;r stephen breyer stance tentatively have to stand out first?— stephen breyer stance tentatively have to stand out first? they run to the process — have to stand out first? they run to the process and _ have to stand out first? they run to the process and they _ have to stand out first? they run to the process and they have - have to stand out first? they run to the process and they have already i the process and they have already set out _ the process and they have already set out a — the process and they have already set out a process _ the process and they have already set out a process and _ the process and they have already set out a process and plan - the process and they have already set out a process and plan in - the process and they have already| set out a process and plan in place and have _ set out a process and plan in place and have worked _ set out a process and plan in place and have worked through - set out a process and plan in place and have worked through this - set out a process and plan in place and have worked through this and| set out a process and plan in place . and have worked through this and as you saw— and have worked through this and as you saw a _ and have worked through this and as you saw a lot — and have worked through this and as you saw a lot of— and have worked through this and as you saw a lot of different _ and have worked through this and as you saw a lot of different letters - you saw a lot of different letters written — you saw a lot of different letters written in — you saw a lot of different letters written in terms _ you saw a lot of different letters written in terms of _ you saw a lot of different letters written in terms of how- you saw a lot of different letters written in terms of how do - you saw a lot of different letters - written in terms of how do you make sure and _ written in terms of how do you make sure and how — written in terms of how do you make sure and how i — written in terms of how do you make sure and how i have _ written in terms of how do you make sure and how i have enough- written in terms of how do you make sure and how i have enough time - written in terms of how do you make sure and how i have enough time toi sure and how i have enough time to go through— sure and how i have enough time to go through it — sure and how i have enough time to go through it but _ sure and how i have enough time to go through it but the _ sure and how i have enough time to go through it but the question - sure and how i have enough time to go through it but the question is. go through it but the question is if this will— go through it but the question is if this will become _ go through it but the question is if this will become a _ go through it but the question is if this will become a political- this will become a political controversial— this will become a political controversial issue - this will become a political controversial issue that. this will become a political- controversial issue that republicans want to _ controversial issue that republicans want to put — controversial issue that republicans want to put out _ controversial issue that republicans want to put out there. _ controversial issue that republicans want to put out there. that's - controversial issue that republicans want to put out there. that's the . want to put out there. that's the real question _ want to put out there. that's the real 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this is i senators are there and this is not something — senators are there and this is not something you _ senators are there and this is not something you can _ senators are there and this is not something you can login- senators are there and this is not something you can login to - senators are there and this is not something you can login to vote. something you can login to vote later— something you can login to vote later so— something you can login to vote later so it — something you can login to vote later so it has _ something you can login to vote later so it has to _ something you can login to vote later so it has to be _ something you can login to vote later so it has to be in— something you can login to vote later so it has to be in person i later so it has to be in person voting — later so it has to be in person voting and _ later so it has to be in person voting and there _ later so it has to be in person voting and there is _ later so it has to be in person voting and there is a - later so it has to be in person voting and there is a lot- voting and there is a lot of conversation _ voting and there is a lot of conversation even - voting and there is a lot of conversation even in - voting and there is a lot of| conversation even in these voting and there is a lot of- conversation even in these first couple — conversation even in these first couple of — conversation even in these first couple of hours _ conversation even in these first couple of hours of _ conversation even in these first couple of hours of what - conversation even in these first couple of hours of what does i conversation even in these first couple of hours of what does a | couple of hours of what does a timeline — couple of hours of what does a timeline look— couple of hours of what does a timeline look like _ couple of hours of what does a timeline look like so— couple of hours of what does a timeline look like so the - couple of hours of what does a i timeline look like so the people couple of hours of what does a - timeline look like so the people are building _ timeline look like so the people are building in— timeline look like so the people are building in whether— timeline look like so the people are building in whether there _ timeline look like so the people are building in whether there is- building in whether there is political— building in whether there is political controversy - building in whether there is political controversy or - building in whether there is- political controversy or whether there _ political controversy or whether there is — political controversy or whether there is delays _ political controversy or whether there is delays on— political controversy or whether there is delays on purpose, - political controversy or whetherl there is delays on purpose, how political controversy or whether- there is delays on purpose, how do you build _ there is delays on purpose, how do you build enough— there is delays on purpose, how do you build enough time _ there is delays on purpose, how do you build enough time to _ there is delays on purpose, how do you build enough time to start- there is delays on purpose, how do you build enough time to start as l you build enough time to start as soon _ you build enough time to start as soon as— you build enough time to start as soon as possible? _ you build enough time to start as soon as possible? find _ you build enough time to start as soon as possible?— you build enough time to start as soon as possible? and a lack quick one, how important _ soon as possible? and a lack quick one, how important is _ soon as possible? and a lack quick one, how important is this - soon as possible? and a lack quick one, how important is this to - soon as possible? and a lack quick one, how important is this to the l one, how important is this to the standing of the supreme court because the current balance is 6—3 to the conservatives. the one thing that stephen breyer said that would factor in his decision to retire would of course be first of all his health, but also the standing of the court in the eyes of the american public. do you think that probably weighed quite heavily in his mind? it has to have. but we are seeing not only— it has to have. but we are seeing not only the _ it has to have. but we are seeing not only the things _ it has to have. but we are seeing not only the things that - it has to have. but we are seeing not only the things that the - it has to have. but we are seeing - not only the things that the supreme court is _ not only the things that the supreme court is having — not only the things that the supreme court is having to _ not only the things that the supreme court is having to weigh— not only the things that the supreme court is having to weigh in— not only the things that the supreme court is having to weigh in on, - not only the things that the supreme court is having to weigh in on, but. court is having to weigh in on, but ithink— court is having to weigh in on, but lthinkwe are— court is having to weigh in on, but i think we are very— court is having to weigh in on, but i think we are very much- court is having to weigh in on, but i think we are very much at a - court is having to weigh in on, but i think we are very much at a timej i think we are very much at a time where _ i think we are very much at a time where the — i think we are very much at a time where the court _ i think we are very much at a time where the court are _ i think we are very much at a time where the court are playing - where the court are playing an important _ where the court are playing an important role _ where the court are playing an important role in _ where the court are playing an important role in terms - where the court are playing an important role in terms of- where the court are playing an - important role in terms of upholding the constitution, _ important role in terms of upholding the constitution, upholding - important role in terms of upholding the constitution, upholding the - important role in terms of upholding the constitution, upholding the law, | the constitution, upholding the law, weighing _ the constitution, upholding the law, weighing in — the constitution, upholding the law, weighing in and _ the constitution, upholding the law, weighing in and a _ the constitution, upholding the law, weighing in and a very— the constitution, upholding the law, weighing in and a very partisan- the constitution, upholding the law, weighing in and a very partisan timej weighing in and a very partisan time and the— weighing in and a very partisan time and the fear— weighing in and a very partisan time and the fear that _ weighing in and a very partisan time and the fear that there _ weighing in and a very partisan time and the fear that there would - weighing in and a very partisan time and the fear that there would be - and the fear that there would be more _ and the fear that there would be more at — and the fear that there would be more at a — and the fear that there would be more at a balance _ and the fear that there would be more at a balance if— and the fear that there would be more at a balance if his - and the fear that there would be more at a balance if his timing l and the fear that there would be i more at a balance if his timing was not right, — more at a balance if his timing was not right, that _ more at a balance if his timing was not right, that leads— more at a balance if his timing was not right, that leads me _ more at a balance if his timing was not right, that leads me to- more at a balance if his timing was not right, that leads me to believe| not right, that leads me to believe that it _ not right, that leads me to believe that it weighed _ not right, that leads me to believe that it weighed on _ not right, that leads me to believe that it weighed on him _ not right, that leads me to believe that it weighed on him heavily- not right, that leads me to believe that it weighed on him heavily to. that it weighed on him heavily to think— that it weighed on him heavily to think about — that it weighed on him heavily to think about it, _ that it weighed on him heavily to think about it, especially- that it weighed on him heavily toi think about it, especially because he did _ think about it, especially because he did indicate _ think about it, especially because he did indicate they— think about it, especially because he did indicate they were - think about it, especially because he did indicate they were not - think about it, especially because he did indicate they were not any| he did indicate they were not any health— he did indicate they were not any health issues— he did indicate they were not any health issues here _ he did indicate they were not any health issues here and _ he did indicate they were not any health issues here and he - he did indicate they were not any health issues here and he gave . health issues here and he gave time enough _ health issues here and he gave time enough for— health issues here and he gave time enough for this— health issues here and he gave time enough for this president _ health issues here and he gave time enough for this president to - health issues here and he gave time enough for this president to have i enough for this president to have a thoughtful— enough for this president to have a thoughtful process _ enough for this president to have a thoughtful process as _ enough for this president to have a thoughtful process as they - enough for this president to have a thoughtful process as they move i thoughtful process as they move forward — thoughtful process as they move forward for— thoughtful process as they move forward. for me, _ thoughtful process as they move forward. for me, the _ thoughtful process as they move forward. for me, the time - thoughtful process as they move forward. for me, the time it - thoughtful process as they move l forward. for me, the time it really does _ forward. for me, the time it really does matter— forward. for me, the time it really does matter and _ forward. for me, the time it really does matter and it _ forward. for me, the time it really does matter and it speaks - forward. for me, the time it really does matter and it speaks to - forward. for me, the time it really does matter and it speaks to the l does matter and it speaks to the importance — does matter and it speaks to the importance that _ does matter and it speaks to the importance that justice - does matter and it speaks to the importance thatjustice breyer. importance that justice breyer understands _ importance thatjustice breyer understands the _ importance thatjustice breyer understands the importance . importance thatjustice breyer| understands the importance of importance thatjustice breyer- understands the importance of this moment— understands the importance of this moment and — understands the importance of this moment and this _ understands the importance of this moment and this time _ understands the importance of this moment and this time and - understands the importance of this moment and this time and the - understands the importance of this moment and this time and the fact| moment and this time and the fact that we _ moment and this time and the fact that we are — moment and this time and the fact that we are going _ moment and this time and the fact that we are going into _ moment and this time and the fact that we are going into a _ moment and this time and the fact that we are going into a very- that we are going into a very different— that we are going into a very different election _ that we are going into a very different election cycle - that we are going into a very different election cycle thatl that we are going into a very- different election cycle that could change _ different election cycle that could change the — different election cycle that could change the balance _ different election cycle that could change the balance of— different election cycle that could change the balance of power- different election cycle that could change the balance of power and| different election cycle that could - change the balance of power and who decides _ change the balance of power and who decides that — change the balance of power and who decides that next _ change the balance of power and who decides that next justice. _ decides that next justice. interesting _ decides that next justice. interesting one _ decides that next justice. interesting one to - decides that next justice. interesting one to watchl decides that next justice. . interesting one to watch and decides that next justice. - interesting one to watch and it will happen very quickly. joe biden will be sure to do that quickly as well because politically it works for him. this is context on the bbc. still to come, waiting for the report on dowing street lockdown parties that could determine boris johnson's future. let's look at some of the other stories making headlines today. just under 3 million people in the uk had coronavirus last week, according to the latest research, a fall of half a million from the week before. but the number of children getting covid has increased. in northern ireland, the use of vaccine passports in some indoor settings, such as pubs, restaurants and cinemas, has today been scrapped. a million facemasks designed for use by front—line nhs staff were sent out to hospitals at the height of the pandemic despite warnings about their effectiveness. in a confidential government report seen by bbc news, the masks were described as counterfeit. it found health officials were dismissive of concerns and hadn't listened to warnings about the authenticity of the masks. the metropolitan police has referred itself to the watchdog, the iopc, over the death of yasmin chkaifi. she was stabbed in north london by herformer partner, leon mckasker, who was then killed by a passing motorist. mckasker had been wanted by police. there are growing calls for the motorist not to face a criminal investigation. the spectre of sue gray's investigation still looms over british politics and the everyday business of the prime minister. the report into the lockdown events in downing street was expected today, and yet still we wait. will it be tomorrow, next week? who knows? but borisjohnson and the more supportive tabloid newspapers are betting the british people are already tiring of cake and want to focus on what really matters. the prime minister was channelling plenty of that in the house of commons today. this was his response to those calling for his head. we've taken the tough decisions. we've got the big calls right. and we're, and in particular, i am getting on with the job. but the problems mount. tonight, leaked e—mails appear to contradict borisjohnson's claim he did not intervene to authorise the evacuation of 150 stray dogs and cats from afghanistan. the prime minister had said it was "complete nonsense" he'd stepped in to help the founder of the charity penn farthing, but in fact the new information appears to show the prime minister did just that. it was evacuation that frustrated other attempts to save afghans. with crises piling up, a police investigation ongoing, support on his backbenches wobbling, isn't it time, said the leader of the opposition, for the pm to call it a day. whatever he says in his statement later today or tomorrow won't change the facts. isn't this a prime minister and a government that have shown nothing but contempt for the decency, honesty and respect that define this country? normal services resumed in the bcm have all of our panelists with us now. ione wells, our politics correspodnent, joins us now. your ear has been firmly fixed to the ground all day. are we any closer because i have to tell you it's been a bit anti—climactic today? telling everyone to tune in for the report and still it's not here. . �* , for the report and still it's not 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to have a good look at it before he does— for them to have a good look at it before he does go— for them to have a good look at it before he does go ahead - for them to have a good look at it. before he does go ahead and make that statement. _ before he does go ahead and make that statement.— before he does go ahead and make that statement. thank you very much indeed for that. _ that statement. thank you very much indeed for that. and _ that statement. thank you very much indeed for that. and chemically - that statement. thank you very much indeed for that. and chemically play i indeed for that. and chemically play you a clip from the leader of the opposition today who was one at the position that the cabinet now find themselves in. the reality is that we now have the shameful spectacle of a prime minister of the united kingdom being subject to a police investigation. unable to lead the country, incapable of doing the right thing, and every day his cabinet fail to speak out, they become more and more complicit. is there a danger, and, that they're not looking among themselves thinking we are on the hook here in the longer this goes on, the more damage it does to our standing in the eyes of the public and may be to our leadership chances?— our leadership chances? there is alwa s a our leadership chances? there is always a psychological— our leadership chances? there is always a psychological element i our leadership chances? there is | always a psychological element at play in the sense that a bit like interviewing different suspects in a crime, one of them break first before the main suspect? but i think most of the cam and take the view that we all hang together or we all hang separately and i think that's at the heart of this. first of all, the nature of this scandal and whether or not it sort of factored into how you view how borisjohnson conducts himself. but i think in terms of the contents, the people who would remove borisjohnson or conservative mps that may sound very undemocratic between an election but thatis undemocratic between an election but that is what would happen and then to think of you as to whether or not the conservative party as a governing party would be better off having quite a blood leadership election. particularly in the midst of all that's going on with covid—19 in the economy and ukraine or whether they can talk this out and over time the public will not met the salience of the scandal will reduce in the eyes of the public and there are all sorts of milestones on there are all sorts of milestones on the wife is unsure has been rehearsing the partner before but we talked about this now for about eight weeks. the local elections being the most obvious one in may. what us viewers might call the midterms as it were. and i think a lot of conservative mps will hold their fire until they actually get a chance to hear the verdict of the electorate at those elections. the prime minister _ electorate at those elections. the prime minister said today that he is totally fixed on the job at hand and that this is not a distraction for him but we do know that he and his team were in the house of commons till late last night meeting 15 mps, one—on—one, face—to—face, trying to bolster support for the prime minister. it is clearly a demonstration that this is distracting him from the work at hand. i distracting him from the work at hand. s �* , . distracting him from the work at hand. ,, �*, ., .,. hand. i think it's a fact it probably _ hand. i think it's a fact it probably is _ hand. i think it's a fact it probably is objectively i hand. i think it's a fact it i probably is objectively full hand. i think it's a fact it - probably is objectively full so hand. i think it's a fact it _ probably is objectively full so when i left parliament today, long after prime minister questions, the police are writers and the production vehicles were also there so it's a very physical manifestation that he was still in the palace of westminster and was fully there to talk to disgruntled mps and get them on site. so it can be very helpful to the business of government to have this hanging over his head but i don't think again to be very crude and blunt about it, spending your time showing up your position is not for borisjohnson or indeed people who are supporting him a resignation issue. it's a job that has to be done and they will see it that way in order to get through this but you start this statement of the programme talking about the sue gray report, is the end, is it out, like moses coming down from the mountain with the tablets of stone and clearly nothing is going to happen until that report is published. when the report is published, i don't like it's going to move things on particularly well and if you've already decided that borisjohnson is going, you'll read that report is that this confirms your opinion and if you've decided he should stay, you will read that report and it will your opinion. but you will read that report and it will your opinion.— you will read that report and it will your opinion. but the poll on the screen _ will your opinion. but the poll on the screen and _ will your opinion. but the poll on the screen and if _ will your opinion. but the poll on the screen and if that _ will your opinion. but the poll on the screen and if that you - will your opinion. but the poll on the screen and if that you can . will your opinion. but the poll on | the screen and if that you can see that 60% of people think that he should go and that is actually up from 54% two weeks ago but i want to stick on this theme that bringing in amanda here, the attitude towards politics in general because the labour leader talked with the damage being done to the body politic. it is a truism that american and british politics run parallel and joe biden right now has similar problems to the prime minister, albeit they come from a different place. if we look at the polling now today forjoe biden, you will see that 61% of republicans are enthused about the midterms and only 47% of democrats and that is directly inverted for we were at the last midterm. if you are talking about turnout and how important it is to a midterm election, that's a problem. it is a problem and is very natural that a sitting president has a really— that a sitting president has a really tough midterm time. interesting here is this new and renewed — interesting here is this new and renewed discussion of the supreme court _ renewed discussion of the supreme court does — renewed discussion of the supreme court does it really make it easier forjoe _ court does it really make it easier forjoe biden talk about the stakes of the _ forjoe biden talk about the stakes of the election and that is going to be an— of the election and that is going to be an important aspect as we go into the midterms because on the one hand, _ the midterms because on the one hand. it _ the midterms because on the one hand. it is — the midterms because on the one hand, it is and we know from history that this _ hand, it is and we know from history that this will — hand, it is and we know from history that this will be a very difficult midterm — that this will be a very difficult midterm for democrats but however we are also _ midterm for democrats but however we are also in _ midterm for democrats but however we are also in an _ midterm for democrats but however we are also in an incredibly different time _ are also in an incredibly different time in— are also in an incredibly different time in the — are also in an incredibly different time in the world with covid—19 and the economy and the partisanship we are seeing _ the economy and the partisanship we are seeing so in some ways the recent— are seeing so in some ways the recent conversation could be helpful to run _ recent conversation could be helpful to run the _ recent conversation could be helpful to run the country together. we recent conversation could be helpful to run the country together.- to run the country together. we will talk -la to run the country together. we will talk play more _ to run the country together. we will talk play more and _ to run the country together. we will talk play more and do _ to run the country together. we will talk play more and do stay - to run the country together. we will talk play more and do stay with - to run the country together. we will talk play more and do stay with us. | good evening. it might have felt like a long time coming, but most of us did see some glimpses of sunshine on wednesday. this was the picture in nottinghamshire. we've had quite a breeze to help to break up that cloud. it's going to be staying quite windy through the evening and tonight across northern parts of scotland. some wind and rain moving in from the north through this evening and through tonight. further south most places say a bit more settled, we've got high pressure to the south of the uk and this weather front here just slowly slipping its way south, quite a few isobars on the map and it's going to be particularly windy through tonight across the north of scotland for the likes of caithness and orkney. severe gales possible here, some disruptive, strong winds and large waves. further south we've got this weather front just sinking it's way south through the early hours of thursday through central parts of england and wales. for most of us there is enough cloud and enough of a breeze to keep things frost—free, could be just a touch of frost across parts of scotland, perhaps in the far south of england. heading through into thursday morning, we've got this weather front initially, just draped across central england and south wales. that will bring a zone of cloudy skies with patchy rain in the far south. also very windy to start the day across the north of scotland, but these winds slowly ease. showers moving in on this northwesterly breeze across northern and western parts of scotland. further south and east, most places looking drier and after the cloud clears away from the south, should be some sunshine for most. temperatures 10—13 degrees for most of us, colder across the north of scotland. moving through thursday evening and overnight into friday, high pressure still with us. we've got the next front approaching from the north west into friday. that could bring some rain initially to the north west of scotland, perhaps a few splashes of light rain across other northern and western areas. for central and eastern england, you're likely to keep the sunny spells through the day on friday. breezy, particularly the further north and west you are, but milder temperatures, 10—11 degrees for scotland and northern ireland, england and wales 8—10 degrees. heading on towards the weekend and high pressure not far away, sitting to south or southwest of the uk. we got this weather front approaching again from the northwest. i think, through the course of the weekend plenty of dry and settled weather around. mild on saturday, but certainly breezy. the weather front bringing cold the day on sunday with some outbreaks of rain, especially across the north and the north west. bye for now. hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching context on bbc news. the united states and nato tell the kremlin they will not give in to its security demands on eastern europe or compromise on ukrainian sovereignty. us secretary of state anthony blinken says there can be no compromise on ukraine's integrity, but he said bilateral talks soon could address moscow's concerns. us federal prosecutors are reviewing fake electoral college certificates, that declared former president donald trump the winner of states he lost in the 2020 election. tonight with the context, amanda renteria , former aide to hillary clinton and conservative peer ed vaizey the united states has tonight sent a written response to the kremlin, in answer to the demands president putin has made making of nato and ukraine. there has been no briefing on what is in that letter. but the secretary of state, anthony blinken, said it set out a serious diplomatic path, and areas in which the two sides can find agreement, namely arms control and the positioning of missiles. but mr blinken said they would never compromise on nato's founding principles. it is for nato, not for the united states unilaterally to discuss the open door policy. these are decisions that nato makes as an alliance, not the united states unilaterally but from our perspective i cannot be more clear. nato's door is open and remains open and that is our commitment. here's some of the other developments on ukraine today. the us has sent more military aid to ukraine, and six fighterjets to estonia to bolster nato's defences. the f—15 will take part in exercises along with four danish jets due to arrive in lithuania tomorrow. the built up continues on the other side. the russian defence ministry released footage today of fighter jets taking off for belarus. it has also released video of troops gathering in the rostov region, near the border with urkaine. meanwhile — as europe continues to threaten sanctions — the russian president was holding a virtual two—hour meeting with top italian businessmen. who had all defied a call from the italian prime minister to cancel the event. it was held by the italian—russian chamber of commerce and included the energy giant enel, insurer generali and the tyre manufacturer pirelli. bill browder is the head of the global magnitskyjustice campaign and author of red notice: how i became putin's number one enemy. what would the most effective sanctions look like if they were to be imposed on vladimir putin? thea;r be imposed on vladimir putin? they robabl be imposed on vladimir putin? they probably should _ be imposed on vladimir putin? tie: probably should not be be imposed on vladimir putin? ti9:1: probably should not be widespread sanctions against the russian people but vladimir putin is arguably the richest man in the world has stolen and enormous amount of money from russian people and that money is held in the name of oligarchs and oligarch trustees don't hold that money in russia they hold it in the last and banks in the uk and new york and switzerland and various places and show the best way to stopping putin from all of this terrible stuff he's doing is to go after his money in the and the best way to go after his money is to freeze the assets of the oligarch trustees and that something that's entirely possible, possible and already in law and out of the major countries where putin keeps his money. if countries where putin keeps his mone . :, :, , countries where putin keeps his mone. :, :, , , s, countries where putin keeps his mone. :, :, , , :, :::: money. if already starting 200 million dollars _ money. if already starting 200 million dollars from _ money. if already starting 200 million dollars from his - money. if already starting 200 million dollars from his fellow| million dollars from his fellow russians, why wouldn't he do that again if he confiscated his money, it would not solve the problem, he would go about the same criminalisty that we allege he's been involved in before. �* , :, , :, :, :, before. there's only a finite amount of money in — before. there's only a finite amount of money in russia _ before. there's only a finite amount of money in russia and _ before. there's only a finite amount of money in russia and you - before. there's only a finite amount of money in russia and you have . before. there's only a finite amount of money in russia and you have to | of money in russia and you have to understand a person who values money might in human life it's notjust a ticking 20 years to steal all that money and he had to clean up of people and take a lot of people hostage and shake a lot of people down and it did not come easy and so for him he values money tremendously and i know how much he values it because i was involved in the passage of the act which is the legislation named after maite murdered russian lawyer which is the act that freezes version —— russian assets and he was so angry when that piece of legislation passed he made it the single largest foreign policy priority to repeat it and so we know he does not like it and e—mail he scared of having his own money and instead of going after him in a widespread way we should do it very surgically and go after his money. that is not straightforward picnic —— particularly here in the uk. a lot of that money is invested in london and we do now the fact that the mirror reported just recently that a quarter of the ministers attending cabinets have taken russian inc. cash around 2 million pounds from donors with russian links and they are the people sitting in on the decisions. we are facin: an sitting in on the decisions. we are facing an existential— sitting in on the decisions. we are facing an existential crisis - sitting in on the decisions. we are facing an existential crisis here, i sitting in on the decisions. we are facing an existential crisis here, a | facing an existential crisis here, a national security crisis, a crisis of massive proportions for a few million pounds i think those guys can fit it out and recuse themselves from any decisions and those who have not taken the russian money should get on with protecting the nation and protecting europe and protecting civilisation from this terrible tyrant. is protecting civilisation from this terrible tyrant.— protecting civilisation from this terrible tyrant. is there a problem with russian _ terrible tyrant. is there a problem with russian money _ terrible tyrant. is there a problem with russian money that - terrible tyrant. is there a problem with russian money that is - terrible tyrant. is there a problem with russian money that is going | with russian money that is going around in the uk which has found its way into the coffers of the establishment? i way into the coffers of the establishment?— way into the coffers of the establishment? i think it is a problem- _ establishment? i think it is a problem- i— establishment? i think it is a problem. i am _ establishment? i think it is a problem. i am not— establishment? i think it is a problem. i am not going - establishment? i think it is a problem. i am not going to i establishment? i think it is a i problem. i am not going to go establishment? i think it is a - problem. i am not going to go into the ins and — problem. i am not going to go into the ins and not because i'm not an expert _ the ins and not because i'm not an expert he's— the ins and not because i'm not an expert. he's an enormous amount of his life _ expert. he's an enormous amount of his life and _ expert. he's an enormous amount of his life and he's done very good work— his life and he's done very good work in — his life and he's done very good work in terms of holding putin and his russian— work in terms of holding putin and his russian oligarchs to account and his lawyer— his russian oligarchs to account and his lawyer lost his life doing it so i'm not going to second—guess the analysis— i'm not going to second—guess the analysis and i'm not going to go through— analysis and i'm not going to go through individual advice because they don't— through individual advice because they don't have the expertise and knowledge to say without doubt this is clean _ knowledge to say without doubt this is clean russian money are not clean russian _ is clean russian money are not clean russian money and we know russian money is _ russian money and we know russian money is everywhere. in theory i may have given _ money is everywhere. in theory i may have given money to watch chelsea matches _ have given money to watch chelsea matches i— have given money to watch chelsea matches. i find the russian behaviour extraordinary and i find it extraordinary we are not going further— it extraordinary we are not going further because they murdered a british— further because they murdered a british citizen on british soil and a place — british citizen on british soil and a place in — british citizen on british soil and a place in the russian, to russian dissidents— a place in the russian, to russian dissidents and putting many members of the _ dissidents and putting many members of the public at risk and london has this reputation of being a money laundering capital and i think we should _ laundering capital and i think we should do— laundering capital and i think we should do more to clean it up and i think— should do more to clean it up and i think we _ should do more to clean it up and i think we should work with the us administration who wants to do that and with— administration who wants to do that and with the european union that wants— and with the european union that wants to — and with the european union that wants to do that and i don't know whether— wants to do that and i don't know whether it's the right strategy because — whether it's the right strategy because i am not an expert on this but certainly extends to reason that one of— but certainly extends to reason that one of the _ but certainly extends to reason that one of the main ways you can combat the way— one of the main ways you can combat the way russia is behaving is to go after— the way russia is behaving is to go after the _ the way russia is behaving is to go after the money of the people in charge _ after the money of the people in charge of— after the money of the people in charge of the russian government. the reader— charge of the russian government. the reader enough to track this russian money down and check that it is clean money that is going towards campaigns and parties?— is clean money that is going towards campaigns and parties? london is the money laundering _ campaigns and parties? london is the money laundering capital— campaigns and parties? london is the money laundering capital of— campaigns and parties? london is the money laundering capital of the - money laundering capital of the world right now. the reason that it is is because the law enforcement agencies do not prosecute anybody for money laundering and they don't use the tools that are available and we have identified massive amounts of money connected to the murder of serge coming to this country and the authorities have refused to open a criminal investigation whereas law—enforcement authorities many other countries have frozen this money and what i've seen here is for reasons that are hard to explain nobody wants to do anything. they don't want to kill the golden goose and until we differentiate between good money and bad money this country is going to be compromised. this is the issue. this is why washington has such concerns about the european standing together. i just showing you pictures of italian businessman on a video call with vladimir putin the connections between eight and the russians. germany, 40% of its gas comes from russia and is private money invested and lots of money invested here in london. is that whyjoe biden and the secretary of state have such concerns? i the secretary of state have such concerns? s , the secretary of state have such concerns?— the secretary of state have such concerns? ,, , :, :, concerns? lthink it is twofold. one is strategic — concerns? lthink it is twofold. one is strategic and _ concerns? lthink it is twofold. one is strategic and making _ concerns? lthink it is twofold. one is strategic and making sure - concerns? lthink it is twofold. one is strategic and making sure there i is strategic and making sure there is strategic and making sure there is a very clear line of what is willing to accept and if you end up knowing our life that are willing to move it makes it difficult to negotiate but there is another piece going on which isjoe biden establishing himself in this seer with russia and from the very beginning he has consistently said i would take a strong stance and i would take a strong stance and i would be very clear. this is in the backdrop about having dealt with afghanistan and gaining some of the lessons in terms of communicating with the public but for him and his administration you can see is a different kind of effort and a different kind of effort and a different kind of confidence and how they are dealing with that in april ten and i want to say as we look at russia it's not simply about the money but the reputation that russia has not only broadly but here in america as well. there are a lot of quiet republicans right now who are quite concerned about what are we going to start to surface in these conversations now that russia isn't playing this role and being a lot more aggressive and this president is willing to talk about it in ways that the last president was not willing to talk about it and you are beginning to see problems surface and america taking a much more leadership stance in defining a line and that has been very different for this administration and i think a really important point forjoe biden. :, :, , , biden. you have studied president putin very closely _ biden. you have studied president putin very closely over _ biden. you have studied president putin very closely over the - biden. you have studied president putin very closely over the years. | putin very closely over the years. there have been talks on going tonight in paris between the ukrainians and the russians and the germans on the french, president micron is putting a positive spin on it saying the talks were a good statement on the russian say it did not benefit and it all and we have seen the pictures that i've shown everybody of the build up continuing. it go? it’s everybody of the build up continuing. it go? it's pretty straightforward. _ continuing. it go? it's pretty straightforward. vladimir. continuing. it go? it's pretty i straightforward. vladimir putin wants to basically take over ukraine one way or another. he wants ukraine to be a satellite country of russia. he wants ukraine to not be an peat member of the european member, not to be a member of nato and to be under his control and everyone is talking about diplomacy but there is no diplomacy you can do and it's not like you can save we will give you half of ukraine if you stop it because there is nothing that can really be said in all of these talks and so the only thing vladimir putin understands his firm, hard consequences and it's not like we started this. he's the one who put his 100,000 troops on the border. not america, not the uk, not the europeans and so he's the one who has to back down and the only way we can make him back down is if he understands very seriously that that things are going to happen and it may very well be we should start stealing the sanctions for he crosses the border. why wait for him to cross the border? why not sanctions if you oligarchs right now to show we are serious and they're not sitting here tweeting our thumbs and in disarray not being able to be read each other. if we do something right now that makes a signal vladimir putin that we are serious and much more terrible things will come afterwards. preemptive sanctions which some are asking for at the moment. federal prosecutors are reviewing fake electoral college certificates, that declared former president donald trump the winner of states he lost in the 2020 election. the deputy attorney general, lisa monaco said there are investigations ongoing in seven states where mr trump's supporters including his lawyer rudi giulliani are accused of putting forward an alternate slate of electors. in american elections, each state counts the votes and awards its electoral votes to the candidate who won. those electors meet in the statehouse at a designated date in december, where they sign certificates to finalise the process. it's a formality. a copy of those certificates would be sent to the national archives in washington. the official certificates — the real certificates — are opened and counted during a joint session of congress onjanuary six. it sounds like a very fancy way to try and feel an election to send in fake certificates from state and actors. clearly not the electors chosen by democrats to representjoe biden, in the hope that mike pence would stand at the dispatch box at the joint congress and say that state of arizona awards for state their votes to donald trump? was that what they thought was going to happen? that what they thought was going to ha - en? , :, that what they thought was going to ha--en? , . , happen? yes. one of the things we are seeinu happen? yes. one of the things we are seeing is _ happen? yes. one of the things we are seeing is the _ happen? yes. one of the things we are seeing is the audacity _ happen? yes. one of the things we are seeing is the audacity as - happen? yes. one of the things we are seeing is the audacity as late i are seeing is the audacity as late as the creativity to stretch what seems to be a little bit of vagueness in a way that really was planned and a lot of the conversation now that is surfacing is this was a concerted effort and there was much just people coming together and figuring out how can we overturn it, there is actually a plan on video of folks trying to do this and what you are hearing from republican attorneys out there is saying yes, we know it's a bit odd but the law is vague and that is culminating into a push to figure out can the congress come together and we do that 1887 law so that there's not the vagueness and you don't have people treat interactions in this same way in the future? but right now this is all surfacing in real time and we are seeing the videos and the question will be can attorneys be successful in making sure they can define the law or put people injail while punished for this is not happening again across the country. i this is not happening again across the country-— the country. i want to understand how this works. _ the country. i want to understand how this works. the _ the country. i want to understand how this works. the allegation . the country. i want to understand how this works. the allegation is| how this works. the allegation is the same time giuliani and his friends were calling report tested the four seasons garden centre and set of the four seasons hotel in philadelphia he was at the same time meeting these seven and seven different states the people who are going to impersonate the real electors and they were going to sign these false certificates which then found their way to the national archives so these are copies of the certificates and is the question whether that's in fact was a fraud or whether that is illegal? hat whether that's in fact was a fraud or whether that is illegal? not on whether it was _ or whether that is illegal? not on whether it was a _ or whether that is illegal? not on whether it was a vehicle - or whether that is illegal? not on whether it was a vehicle but - or whether that is illegal? not on whether it was a vehicle but who | whether it was a vehicle but who actually in that process was the person that should have known better? is it republican governors, is it republican leaders who had a position of power that should have been able to interpret the law or at least by legal means not send this paper over to the archives and that's the real question here is what is the actual loss say and what you hearfrom both sides is you have to go state—by—state to figure out who can be held accountable or what needs to happen going forward. there is no doubt you will hear across the board which is the law is not clear enough in some cases but in those that are if there is a real intensity to make sure folks are held accountable because this was a real concerted effort and it can happen again in this election cycle or the next election cycle. i happen again in this election cycle or the next election cycle.- or the next election cycle. i guess it would be _ or the next election cycle. i guess it would be the _ or the next election cycle. i guess it would be the returning - or the next election cycle. i guess it would be the returning officer i it would be the returning officer standing up with the result in his hand and calling it for someone else. bill hand and calling it for someone else. : , ' hand and calling it for someone else. : , , :, hand and calling it for someone else. , , :, :, else. all the stuffing of ballot -a ers else. all the stuffing of ballot papers which _ else. all the stuffing of ballot papers which has _ else. all the stuffing of ballot papers which has occurred . else. all the stuffing of ballot papers which has occurred in | else. all the stuffing of ballot. papers which has occurred in the else. all the stuffing of ballot - papers which has occurred in the art english _ papers which has occurred in the art english election but has not occurred _ english election but has not occurred in significant ways since the 18th — occurred in significant ways since the 18th century and it really is mind—boggling and 16 astonishment and i mind—boggling and 16 astonishment and i don't — mind—boggling and 16 astonishment and i don't want to sound like i am critical— and i don't want to sound like i am critical it— and i don't want to sound like i am critical it is — and i don't want to sound like i am critical it is hard for a british politician to be commenting on us politics— politician to be commenting on us politics but it is terrifying to see the norms— politics but it is terrifying to see the norms of constitutional debate in the _ the norms of constitutional debate in the greatest democracy in the world _ in the greatest democracy in the world falling apart. i mentioned earlier— world falling apart. i mentioned earlier the report and if you are pro boris — earlier the report and if you are pro boris you will say that but it's on a _ pro boris you will say that but it's on a much, — pro boris you will say that but it's on a much, much bigger scale but almost _ on a much, much bigger scale but almost anything your person does is acceptable _ almost anything your person does is acceptable because he is your person and to— acceptable because he is your person and to a _ acceptable because he is your person and to a certain extent i saw this in the _ and to a certain extent i saw this in the brexit debate if i can draw a parallel. what i found so appalling about _ parallel. what i found so appalling about the — parallel. what i found so appalling about the debate we have after the brexit _ about the debate we have after the brexit referendum and after the boat was in _ brexit referendum and after the boat was in was _ brexit referendum and after the boat was in was each time the democratic institutions— was in was each time the democratic institutions which it was supposed to venerate in this country got involved — to venerate in this country got involved the people who decided they on the _ involved the people who decided they on the result of the referendum, not the politicians, not the people, so the politicians, not the people, so the judges — the politicians, not the people, so the judges gave a verdict which they .ave the judges gave a verdict which they gave parliament have a say on brexit and the _ gave parliament have a say on brexit and the trash the judges and then parliament did not vote they trust department and they trashed at the bbc the _ department and they trashed at the bbc the civil servants extraordinary i bbc the civil servants extraordinary l guess— bbc the civil servants extraordinary i guess there's always been an obvious— i guess there's always been an obvious democratic politics but i guess— obvious democratic politics but i guess it's — obvious democratic politics but i guess it's not something we see in recent— guess it's not something we see in recent years. it guess it's not something we see in recent years-— recent years. it is why joe biden is sa in: recent years. it is why joe biden is saying that — recent years. it is why joe biden is saying that democracy _ recent years. it is why joe biden is saying that democracy at - recent years. it is why joe biden is saying that democracy at the - recent years. it is why joe biden is . saying that democracy at the moment is so fragile and on the back of this today one of the big centreleft think tanks they put out a statement saying democrats need to run to campaigns in 2022 and 2024 and one that is political and one that is designed to protect the balance so money put into protecting those who are counting the votes and those who are counting the votes and those who are texting the electoral process that the senior people in the state have and that's an extraordinary statement that the money and time and effort needs to be spent on the process itself aside from the politics. process itself aside from the olitics. :, , , politics. that is right. this statement _ politics. that is right. this statement has _ politics. that is right. this statement has been - politics. that is right. this statement has been made politics. that is right. this . statement has been made by politics. that is right. this - statement has been made by quite politics. that is right. this _ statement has been made by quite a few institutions for some period of time that have been on the outside but the reality of the infrastructure and the way that it is a over time notjust who is in the legislature but the process itself and the laws that have been changed over time one at that time here and there is now coming to a summation where it's difficult that evenif summation where it's difficult that even if you have a candidate that is representative of the state that i just asked themselves could actually harm that there election process and so it is time, long past time to put some work into what we need to do to make sure we have the kind of infrastructure where you can have truth free and fair elections because of all the laws that have now changed and what we are going to need to do to get it back on track and that is really whatjoe biden was speaking to you when he was asked about his democracy ok and will this inaction be ok? it will be if we are focused on campaigns as well as infrastructure because both of those are what determines the election results. we of those are what determines the election results.— of those are what determines the election results. this is context on the bbc. still to come on the programme, if you like to use traditional phrases, you may find you are met with some blank stares. a new study has found that dozens of old british sayings are at risk of dying out. the jury in the trial of two men and a teenage girl accused of murdering a doctor in a park in cardiff has been played a recording of them attacking him, and him begging them to stop. dr garyjenkins, who was 54 and a consultant psychiatrist, was beaten and robbed last summer. all of the accused admit manslaughter and robbery, but deny murder. our wales correspondent, steven fairclough, reports. in the audio recording that was played this morning doctor garyjenkins can be heard pleading for the attack on him to stop. he is repeatedly heard saying leave me alone, stop it, leave me alone. he asks why he is being attacked. partly through the 15 minute recording he stopped speaking. and all that can be heard are moans. a passer—by is heard shouting asking for the attack to stop. the audio is captured on cctv in a camera inside a cafe close to where the attack took place. there are no pictures associated with the recording. but the prosecution say there are four main voices that can be heard are the voices of doctorjenkins and the defendants strickland, jason edwards and a teenage girl who cannot be identified for legal reasons. the male voices can be heard shouting homophobic abuse and describing violent acts. the female voice at one point is heard to demand money and at the end she is heard to say yeah, i needed that. the jury saw cctv images of strickland buying whisky with doctorjenkins card at a garage just eight minutes later. they also saw an embrace betweenjason edwards and the girl and the two men came back together and they embraced before riding around cardiff city centre on a bicycle. strickland, edwards, and a teenage girl who was 16 at the time of the attack have admitted manslaughter and robbery but deny murder. the case is continuing. would you adam and eve it, there is a poll out here in the uk today that has found that some of our most common sayings are dying out. we are losing some of our best known phrases, flash in the pan, tickety boo, a dog's dinner, mad as a hatter. they are all going out of fashion. more than half the respondents in a recent survey said they don't use them any more. this saddens me because this is part of who we are. and happy about this. what are your favourite and where do they come from? fine what are your favourite and where do they come from?— they come from? one has to be careful. they come from? one has to be careful- one — they come from? one has to be careful. one has— they come from? one has to be careful. one has to _ they come from? one has to be careful. one has to be - they come from? one has to be careful. one has to be careful. they come from? one has to be| careful. one has to be careful in woke culture. you are driving me around the band or whatever or i could murder a curry is not something you should see yourself saying. what i love about the british and american link is whatever happens even when our old phrases they we will still be two countries separated by common language and i relish the time an active american friend of mine to meet david cameron and he want david cameron to do something and he came out of the meeting 20 minutes later saying that was a fantastic meeting i am so pleased that david cameron agreed. and i said no he did not. he said no. , ,, , :, said no. here is mine. see if you can work— said no. here is mine. see if you can work out _ said no. here is mine. see if you can work out what _ said no. here is mine. see if you can work out what these - said no. here is mine. see if you can work out what these are. . said no. here is mine. see if you| can work out what these are. this said no. here is mine. see if you . can work out what these are. this is what my granddad used to say for me. they are both the same. you must be absolutely useless. what is your favourite for phrase? i absolutely useless. what is your favourite for phrase?— favourite for phrase? i think we need to come _ favourite for phrase? i think we need to come up _ favourite for phrase? i think we need to come up with - favourite for phrase? i think we need to come up with some . favourite for phrase? i think we | need to come up with some new favourite for phrase? i think we - need to come up with some new ones. a new— need to come up with some new ones. a new generation, new sayings. is a new generation, new sayings. is there a new generation, new sayings. there an a new generation, new sayings. is there an american phrase that you use? i there an american phrase that you use? ::, �* s there an american phrase that you use? : :, �* 4' :, there an american phrase that you use? �* ~ :, :, :, use? i can't think of one right now. this is our— use? i can't think of one right now. this is our challenge. _ use? i can't think of one right now. this is our challenge. the - use? i can't think of one right now. this is our challenge. the efficacy i this is our challenge. the efficacy of both. the tablet company. see you tomorrow, goodbye. hello. sunshine has been in fairly short supply for many of us over recent days, but wednesday did bring a bit more blue sky and sunshine. this was the picture in pembrokeshire and that was because we had more of a breeze. it helped to break up all that cloud and things staying quite windy, in fact, at least through the first part of wednesday, but over the next few days, really, the rest of this week we're going to be seeing spells of sunshine, often fairly breezy, mainly dry towards the south, but there will be some rain in the forecast at times across northern parts of the uk. now this is how we start thursday. windy initially for northern scotland, particularly for orkney and caithness as well, some scattered showers in the far north—west. early cloud and a few spots of drizzly rain in the south, clearing away towards the south, just lingering through the channel isles, but the rest of us, a return to some sunshine. pretty mild, 12 or 13 degrees for many, but colder across the northern half of scotland. and as we move through thursday evening and overnight into friday, it's mainly dry, the wind is falling fairly light, so that's the recipe for some frostiness around, i think, temperatures in the countryside down to near freezing or even a little bit below and we're likely to see some pockets of fog around too, particularly for central and eastern parts of england, perhaps eastern scotland as well. high pressure holds on towards the south as we move through into friday, but we'll see weather fronts trying to move in from the north—west. so it's going to be turning wetter and windier initially for the west of scotland, perhaps some splashes of lighter rain for other western parts of the uk. for central and eastern england, you're likely to stay with some sunny spells and the dry weather continues on friday. temperatures somewhere between about 8 to perhaps 11 degrees or so, reasonably typical for this time of year. now heading on towards the weekend, then, friday night into saturday now. high pressure very much settled towards the south and we've got weather fronts again trying to move in from the north—west. so some wetter, windier weather on saturday, particularly for scotland and also for northern ireland. as that weather front pushes south across england and wales, it will tend to peter out, so not much rain around by the time that weather front reaches the south. sunny spells follow on and it will be mild. some of us up to about 14 degrees or so. turning colder for a time into sunday, as we've got a cold front that moves away towards the south, this area of low pressure approaches from the atlantic. now if you were watching yesterday, we were talking about uncertainty about how far north or south this area of low pressure is going to be. computer models now starting to agree that it will be generally found further north, so that means on sunday, probably the wettest and windiest of the weather will be across parts of scotland. a risk of some snow over the higher ground as well, perhaps northern ireland and north—west england seeing a bit of that wet and windy weather too. most likely that further south and east, you'll be staying dry, but it could be that that system is a little bit further south. it will eventually get out the way, petering out again as it moves its way further south and then clears off towards the east. so we've got a north—westerly airflow, now this is heading through into monday, so a colder day, i think, on monday with some sunshine and perhaps one or two showers, a little bit wintry over the higher ground for northern and for western parts of the uk. driest towards the east, but even in the sunshine, it's not going to feel particularly warm, with temperatures between 5 to perhaps 9 degrees on monday. so the first part of next week then — we've got high pressure sitting to the south—west, low pressure in the north—east and that means the north—westerly flow of air. so fairly chilly with a mix of sunny spells and a few scattered showers. through the second half of next week, that colder air that we will have initially in place tends to get cleared away and what we'll see is more of an atlantic influence and that so the temperatures reasonably typical, really, for this time of year. bye for now. tonight at ten, prince andrew demands a trial byjury in new york as he rejects the allegations of sex abuse. it's his official legal response to the claims made by virginia giuffre. andrew's demand for trial byjury was filed after he failed to have the case dismissed earlier this month. it's a fairly common request when you want your case to be heard, when you want your case to be heard, when you want your case to be heard, when you want maximum exposure because you want maximum exposure because you feel you've been wronged. we'll be asking what the legal document tells us about andrew's likely defence case. also tonight... survive this, prime minister? borisjohnson, still waiting for the official report into parties at number 10, tells mps he has no intention of stepping down. the ministerial code says that ministers who knowingly mislead

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as we sort those technical problems out, let's turn to that case in new york. prince andrew has demanded a jury trial as he seeks to defend the civil sex case that has been brought by virginia giuffre, according to legal documents filed by his lawyer in new york. it was reported he might have to pay more than $5 million to his accuser to persuade her to settle, although mr giuffre has signalled before that she wanted to a proceed to a court trial. the duke has strenuously denied the allegations she is making. our correspondent nada tawfik is in new york. this is a formal response by prince andrew's legal team to virginia giuffre�*s complaint, and so in it, he goes through every allegation in the complaint line by line and either denies or admits to the assertions in the complaint. so, for example, he denies all allegations of sexual abuse with virginia giuffre on the three occasions that she alleges when she was 17 in the us virgin islands, and london and new york. he also denies that virginia giuffre was lent out to prince andrew byjeffrey epstein for sexual purposes. what's interesting is he comments on that notorious photo that exists of prince andrew with his arm around virginia giuffre with his arm around virginia giuffre with ghislaine maxwell in the background. in the legal document, it says that he lacked sufficient information to admit or deny the existence of photographic evidence, and of course we know in the past he has questioned whether that photo was in fact doctored. he also questions other assertions that are made in the complaint, things of the fact that they say he threw ghislaine maxwell a birthday party in burnley in 2015. and so it really goes through as i say all of these allegations and so this is now a legal record of prince andrew's position. former federal prosecutor joe moreno is with us. good to see you again let's talk about what happens next. can first of all anybody in new york requested a jury trial because you cannot do that here in the uk? it’s a jury trial because you cannot do that here in the uk?— that here in the uk? it's a fairly common request when - that here in the uk? it's a fairly common request when you - that here in the uk? it's a fairly| common request when you want that here in the uk? it's a fairly - common request when you want your case to— common request when you want your case to be — common request when you want your case to be heard. you want maximum exposure _ case to be heard. you want maximum exposure because you feel you have been robbed, and so that's an effort that i_ been robbed, and so that's an effort that i see _ been robbed, and so that's an effort that i see by the plaintiff come up virginia _ that i see by the plaintiff come up virginia giuffre, to say i want my day in _ virginia giuffre, to say i want my day in court _ virginia giuffre, to say i want my day in court on to be heard in front of a day in court on to be heard in front of 6 jury and — day in court on to be heard in front ofaiuryand i_ day in court on to be heard in front of a jury and i want my story told to the _ of a jury and i want my story told to the world. do of a jury and i want my story told to the world.— of a jury and i want my story told to the world. , ., ~ ., to the world. do you think then that this has come _ to the world. do you think then that this has come through _ to the world. do you think then that this has come through a _ to the world. do you think then that this has come through a note - to the world. do you think then that this has come through a note that l this has come through a note that the lawyers for prince andrew has sent to the judge, do you think they are in a position where a settlement would have been to be expensive, too prohibitive that they had to go for a jury trial?— a jury trial? difficult disables of ou can a jury trial? difficult disables of you can certainly _ a jury trial? difficult disables of you can certainly have - a jury trial? difficult disables of you can certainly have a - a jury trial? difficult disables of - you can certainly have a settlement further _ you can certainly have a settlement further down the road and it would shock— further down the road and it would shock me — further down the road and it would shock me not between now and its route _ shock me not between now and its route to see that happen, and sometimes though there are cases where _ sometimes though there are cases where no _ sometimes though there are cases where no amount of money will make them _ where no amount of money will make them go _ where no amount of money will make them go away. there are times when again— them go away. there are times when again a _ them go away. there are times when again a victim wants their day in court. _ again a victim wants their day in court. and— again a victim wants their day in court, and so a settlement may have been _ court, and so a settlement may have been attempted for all we know it may have — been attempted for all we know it may have just been rebuffed. asl may have just been rebuffed. as i understand _ may have just been rebuffed. as i understand it, _ may have just been rebuffed. is i understand it, the next stage in the process is discovery in which the duke would have to give evidence under oath. how does that work with matt so what we saw just recently was an attempt... matt so what we saw 'ust recently was an attempt. . .— matt so what we saw 'ust recently was an attempt... what we saw was an attem -t to was an attempt... what we saw was an attempt to have — was an attempt... what we saw was an attempt to have the _ was an attempt... what we saw was an attempt to have the case _ was an attempt... what we saw was an attempt to have the case dismissed - attempt to have the case dismissed and now— attempt to have the case dismissed and now that that has failed, you are right, — and now that that has failed, you are right, we move to discovery, which _ are right, we move to discovery, which means documents, which means depositions _ which means documents, which means depositions also known as witness statements, and a process by which the plaintiff is entitled to virtually any piece of information if at att— virtually any piece of information if at all relevant to her case. it's very— if at all relevant to her case. it's very broad _ if at all relevant to her case. it's very broad. there is no diplomatic immunity. — very broad. there is no diplomatic immunity, no restrictions effectively on what she can ask for and the _ effectively on what she can ask for and the process to move along fairly quickly you — and the process to move along fairly quickly. you will see over the next few months. quickly. you will see over the next few months— few months. dusty prince poz but little jeepardy _ few months. dusty prince poz but little jeepardy go _ few months. dusty prince poz but little jeepardy 90 pp _ few months. dusty prince poz but little jeopardy go up a _ few months. dusty prince poz but little jeopardy go up a notch - few months. dusty prince poz but| little jeopardy go up a notch here? because if he is giving evidence under oath and he is asking questions which you might not have answered before, is there a risk that that might later be used in a criminal trial? it’s that that might later be used in a criminal trial?— criminal trial? it's always a risk, riuht? criminal trial? it's always a risk, right? and _ criminal trial? it's always a risk, right? and when _ criminal trial? it's always a risk, right? and when you _ criminal trial? it's always a risk, right? and when you see - criminal trial? it's always a risk, right? and when you see civil. criminal trial? it's always a risk, l right? and when you see civil and criminal— right? and when you see civil and criminal proceedings moving in parallel— criminal proceedings moving in parallel like this, there's always the possibility that one could affect — the possibility that one could affect the other. like i said there is really— affect the other. like i said there is really no — affect the other. like i said there is really no ability to not answer questions — is really no ability to not answer questions in a civil case. if they are relevant to the plaintiff's case, — are relevant to the plaintiff's case, so, _ are relevant to the plaintiff's case, so, yes, anything that can be said on— case, so, yes, anything that can be said on the — case, so, yes, anything that can be said on the record now certainly could _ said on the record now certainly could come back and haunt the prints later _ could come back and haunt the prints later. an— could come back and haunt the prints later. �* ., could come back and haunt the prints later. �* s, , s, s, later. all right, final question on this point. _ later. all right, final question on this point, jeffrey _ later. all right, final question on this point, jeffrey epstein - later. all right, final question on | this point, jeffrey epstein settled this point, jeffrey epstein settled with virginia giuffre, many people saw that as an admission of guilt and presumably the prince and his lawyers have thought about that, that if they were to make a similar settlement, it would be interpreted here in the uk as an admission of guilt. here in the uk as an admission of auilt. ~ ., here in the uk as an admission of i uilt, . ., , , , guilt. well, in the legal system here, we guilt. well, in the legal system here. we go — guilt. well, in the legal system here, we go out— guilt. well, in the legal system here, we go out of— guilt. well, in the legal system here, we go out of our- guilt. well, in the legal system here, we go out of our way - guilt. well, in the legal system here, we go out of our way to l guilt. well, in the legal system . here, we go out of our way to note that a _ here, we go out of our way to note that a settlement is not an admission of guilt, right? it's a meeting — admission of guilt, right? it's a meeting in— admission of guilt, right? it's a meeting in the middle between two parties _ meeting in the middle between two parties who have some legal battle and its— parties who have some legal battle and it's a _ parties who have some legal battle and it's a way for both parties to put in the — and it's a way for both parties to put in the weapons and walk away. that being — put in the weapons and walk away. that being said, in the real world, sure, _ that being said, in the real world, sure, settlements can be viewed in the political arena as perhaps an admission— the political arena as perhaps an admission of guilt people consider that all— admission of guilt people consider that all the time so it certainly something that has to be a consideration along with any financial— consideration along with any financial issues as to whether or not a _ financial issues as to whether or not a settlement is possible in a case _ not a settlement is possible in a case like — not a settlement is possible in a case like this.— not a settlement is possible in a case like this. and is a settlement therefore often _ case like this. and is a settlement therefore often able _ case like this. and is a settlement therefore often able permanently| case like this. and is a settlement i therefore often able permanently or now that he has opted for a jury trial to mckinney he get a settlement at a different time? you can aet a settlement at a different time? you can get a settlement at a different time and _ can get a settlement at a different time and you can go up to an even during— time and you can go up to an even during a— time and you can go up to an even during a trial — time and you can go up to an even during a trialand time and you can go up to an even during a trial and that often happens. what will happen now is a part of— happens. what will happen now is a part of took— happens. what will happen now is a part of took a step back and go to discovery— part of took a step back and go to discovery process and this will play its course — discovery process and this will play its course for the next 9—12 months probably— its course for the next 9—12 months probably see a trial sometime later this year— probably see a trial sometime later this year up in new york, but at any point _ this year up in new york, but at any point out _ this year up in new york, but at any point out to— this year up in new york, but at any point out to that point, the parties can come — point out to that point, the parties can come back to the table, have discussions — can come back to the table, have discussions and reach a settlement and that's— discussions and reach a settlement and that's very common that that happen— and that's very common that that happen so— and that's very common that that happen so it would not shock me one bit. ., , , s, happen so it would not shock me one bit. ., , , ., .,. bit. ok, the lawyers who were acting for vir: inia bit. ok, the lawyers who were acting for virginia giuffre _ bit. ok, the lawyers who were acting for virginia giuffre said _ bit. ok, the lawyers who were acting for virginia giuffre said they - bit. ok, the lawyers who were acting for virginia giuffre said they had - for virginia giuffre said they had gone into a tolling agreement which would have given them time to negotiate a settlement privately, so although she said time and again that she wants her day in court, would you imagine that a negotiation of a settlement has already unfolded?— of a settlement has already unfolded? m, ~' , of a settlement has already unfolded? ~.,, ,, , , unfolded? most likely. there is usually an _ unfolded? most likely. there is usually an open _ unfolded? most likely. there is usually an open dialogue - unfolded? most likely. there is. usually an open dialogue between lawyers _ usually an open dialogue between lawyers in any case no matter how explosive. — lawyers in any case no matter how explosive, how high headline the case is _ explosive, how high headline the case is. they are usually these conversations going on behind the scenes. _ conversations going on behind the scenes. so— conversations going on behind the scenes, so i imagine they have been going _ scenes, so i imagine they have been going on— scenes, so i imagine they have been going on within you to go on. we can brin: in going on within you to go on. we can bring in one — going on within you to go on. we can bring in one member _ going on within you to go on. we can bring in one member of _ going on within you to go on. we can bring in one member of our - going on within you to go on. we can bring in one member of our panel- bring in one member of our panel who is here and that is amanda renteria who is a right to sparejoe for a second. in the celebrity court cases in america, a trial of prince andrew, that would be sensational and the messy concern in the assessment here in the uk that they will be all sorts of focus on it? everyone will 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cases, celebrity cases are a big thing — these cases, celebrity cases are a big thing and _ these cases, celebrity cases are a big thing and i_ these cases, celebrity cases are a big thing. and i think— these cases, celebrity cases are a big thing. and i think right- these cases, celebrity cases are a big thing. and i think right now. big thing. and i think right now with— big thing. and i think right now with so— big thing. and i think right now with so many— big thing. and i think right now with so many people _ big thing. and i think right now with so many people still- big thing. and i think right now with so many people still at - big thing. and i think right now. with so many people still at home trying _ with so many people still at home trying to— with so many people still at home trying to figure _ with so many people still at home trying to figure out _ with so many people still at home trying to figure out what - with so many people still at home trying to figure out what they- with so many people still at home trying to figure out what they can| trying to figure out what they can link into— trying to figure out what they can link into and _ trying to figure out what they can link into and where _ trying to figure out what they can link into and where is— trying to figure out what they can link into and where is a _ trying to figure out what they can link into and where is a good - trying to figure out what they can i link into and where is a good gossip going on— link into and where is a good gossip going on and — link into and where is a good gossip going on and there _ link into and where is a good gossip going on and there is _ link into and where is a good gossip going on and there is no _ link into and where is a good gossip going on and there is no doubt - link into and where is a good gossip going on and there is no doubt thisl going on and there is no doubt this is one _ going on and there is no doubt this is one of— going on and there is no doubt this is one of those _ going on and there is no doubt this is one of those people _ going on and there is no doubt this is one of those people are - going on and there is no doubt this| is one of those people are going be watching _ is one of those people are going be watching here — is one of those people are going be watching here in _ is one of those people are going be watching here in america _ is one of those people are going be watching here in america as - watching here in america as well. thats— watching here in america as well. that's lreen— watching here in america as well. that's been a _ watching here in america as well. that's been a big _ watching here in america as well. that's been a big piece _ watching here in america as well. that's been a big piece of- watching here in america as well. that's been a big piece of it. - watching here in america as well. that's been a big piece of it. try. that's been a big piece of it. try would get _ that's been a big piece of it. would get one in august if that's been a big piece of it.- would get one in august if they do get to a trial and let's move on from that and focus on the big news that's coming from the us supreme court today and... big news from the us supreme court today — justice stephen breyer has announced he will retire later this year after nearly three decades on the bench. justice breyer is 83 years old. his retirement givesjoe biden a chance to nominate the first black woman to the bench. supreme courtjustices serve for life, and with the prospect the democrats could lose their slender senate majority in this year's mid—term elections, this will unfold quickly. joe, do you think he was pushed because he is been asked many times about whether he was going to stand down? there is some concern that maybe he was bounced into it. supreme courtjustices, they reside at such— supreme courtjustices, they reside at such an _ supreme courtjustices, they reside at such an elevated height of the political— at such an elevated height of the political spectrum here in the in america — political spectrum here in the in america come don't think any of them would _ america come don't think any of them would get _ america come don't think any of them would get pushed. that being said, they must— would get pushed. that being said, they must have been tremendous political— they must have been tremendous political pressure on the justice because — political pressure on the justice because exactly the point you raised — because exactly the point you raised. democrats hold the senate today— raised. democrats hold the senate today and — raised. democrats hold the senate today and it's a 50—50 tie with the vice president breaking any type and they could _ vice president breaking any type and they could very well lose that majority _ they could very well lose that majority in november and that will make _ majority in november and that will make a _ majority in november and that will make a confirmation impossible but certainly _ make a confirmation impossible but certainly difficult. so, yes, the probably— certainly difficult. so, yes, the probably had some interested parties hoping _ probably had some interested parties hoping the justice would retire this year to— hoping the justice would retire this year to get president biden that opportunity that so many presidents aspire _ opportunity that so many presidents aspire to, _ opportunity that so many presidents aspire to, which is often seen as a supreme — aspire to, which is often seen as a supreme court nomination as the most consequential action a us president can take _ consequential action a us president can take. we consequential action a us president can take. ~ ., s, can take. we will look at some of the polling _ can take. we will look at some of the polling letter _ can take. we will look at some of the polling letter in _ can take. we will look at some of the polling letter in the _ can take. we will look at some of l the polling letter in the programme but clearlyjoe biden's figures underwater at the moment and here is a chance to make his first pick on the supreme court and by all accounts is going to be an african american woman, which he would think would raise his numbers among the african—american community. this would raise his numbers among the african-american community. this is a ve bi african-american community. this is a very big news _ african-american community. this is a very big news day _ african-american community. this is a very big news day for _ african-american community. this is a very big news day for the _ a very big news day for the democratic— a very big news day for the democratic party— a very big news day for the democratic party on - a very big news day for the democratic party on a - a very big news day for the . democratic party on a number a very big news day for the - democratic party on a number of different— democratic party on a number of different fronts. _ democratic party on a number of different fronts. not _ democratic party on a number of different fronts. not only- democratic party on a number ofl different fronts. not only because president — different fronts. not only because president biden— different fronts. not only because president biden can _ different fronts. not only because president biden can actually - different fronts. not only because president biden can actually nowl president biden can actually now deliver— president biden can actually now deliver on— president biden can actually now deliver on a _ president biden can actually now deliver on a key— president biden can actually now deliver on a key promise - president biden can actually now deliver on a key promise that. president biden can actually now deliver on a key promise that he| deliver on a key promise that he made. _ deliver on a key promise that he made. but — deliver on a key promise that he made. but it— deliver on a key promise that he made, but it has— deliver on a key promise that he made, but it has been— deliver on a key promise that he made, but it has been true - deliver on a key promise that he made, but it has been true that| made, but it has been true that there _ made, but it has been true that there have _ made, but it has been true that there have been _ made, but it has been true that there have been a _ made, but it has been true that there have been a lot— made, but it has been true that there have been a lot of- made, but it has been true that there have been a lot of letters| there have been a lot of letters and professors — there have been a lot of letters and professors writing _ there have been a lot of letters and professors writing and _ there have been a lot of letters and professors writing and saying - there have been a lot of letters and professors writing and saying it - there have been a lot of letters and professors writing and saying it is l professors writing and saying it is time _ professors writing and saying it is time for— professors writing and saying it is time for him _ professors writing and saying it is time for him to— professors writing and saying it is time for him to step _ professors writing and saying it is time for him to step down - professors writing and saying it is time for him to step down and . professors writing and saying it is time for him to step down and soj time for him to step down and so there has— time for him to step down and so there has been— time for him to step down and so there has been not— time for him to step down and so there has been notjust _ time for him to step down and so there has been notjust behind i time for him to step down and so. there has been notjust behind the scenes pressure _ there has been notjust behind the scenes pressure but— there has been notjust behind the scenes pressure but you've - there has been notjust behind thei scenes pressure but you've actually seen quite — scenes pressure but you've actually seen quite a — scenes pressure but you've actually seen quite a bit _ scenes pressure but you've actually seen quite a bit of— scenes pressure but you've actually seen quite a bit of a _ scenes pressure but you've actually seen quite a bit of a conversation . seen quite a bit of a conversation about— seen quite a bit of a conversation about this — seen quite a bit of a conversation about this particularly _ seen quite a bit of a conversation about this particularly because i about this particularly because everybody _ about this particularly because everybody knows _ about this particularly because everybody knows what - about this particularly becausel everybody knows what happens about this particularly because . everybody knows what happens in midterms — everybody knows what happens in midterms and _ everybody knows what happens in midterms. and we _ everybody knows what happens in midterms. and we have _ everybody knows what happens in midterms. and we have seen- everybody knows what happens in midterms. and we have seen and| everybody knows what happens in - midterms. and we have seen and time again— midterms. and we have seen and time again on— midterms. and we have seen and time again on voting — midterms. and we have seen and time again on voting rights, _ midterms. and we have seen and time again on voting rights, on _ midterms. and we have seen and time again on voting rights, on women's - again on voting rights, on women's rights, _ again on voting rights, on women's rights, the — again on voting rights, on women's rights, the supreme _ again on voting rights, on women's rights, the supreme court- again on voting rights, on women's rights, the supreme court way- again on voting rights, on women's rights, the supreme court way in. again on voting rights, on women's rights, the supreme court way in if| rights, the supreme court way in if there _ rights, the supreme court way in if there has— rights, the supreme court way in if there has been— rights, the supreme court way in if there has been a _ rights, the supreme court way in if there has been a enormous- rights, the supreme court way in if. there has been a enormous pressure but more _ there has been a enormous pressure but more to— there has been a enormous pressure but more to the _ there has been a enormous pressure but more to the point, _ there has been a enormous pressure but more to the point, now- there has been a enormous pressurel but more to the point, now president biden— but more to the point, now president biden has— but more to the point, now president biden has a _ but more to the point, now president biden has a chance _ but more to the point, now president biden has a chance to— but more to the point, now president biden has a chance to deliver- but more to the point, now president biden has a chance to deliver on - but more to the point, now president biden has a chance to deliver on a . biden has a chance to deliver on a promise _ biden has a chance to deliver on a promise and the _ biden has a chance to deliver on a promise and the democratic- biden has a chance to deliver on a promise and the democratic partyj biden has a chance to deliver on a - promise and the democratic party has a chance _ promise and the democratic party has a chance to _ promise and the democratic party has a chance to finally _ promise and the democratic party has a chance to finally put _ promise and the democratic party has a chance to finally put a _ promise and the democratic party has a chance to finally put a new- a chance to finally put a new perspective _ a chance to finally put a new perspective of _ a chance to finally put a new perspective of lived - a chance to finally put a new. perspective of lived experience a chance to finally put a new- perspective of lived experience of a black— perspective of lived experience of a black woman — perspective of lived experience of a black woman on _ perspective of lived experience of a black woman on the _ perspective of lived experience of a black woman on the bench, - perspective of lived experience of a black woman on the bench, and - perspective of lived experience of al black woman on the bench, and this really— black woman on the bench, and this really is _ black woman on the bench, and this really is generally— black woman on the bench, and this really is generally a _ black woman on the bench, and this really is generally a unifying - really is generally a unifying process— really is generally a unifying process for— really is generally a unifying process for the _ really is generally a unifying process for the party- really is generally a unifying process for the party so - really is generally a unifying process for the party so we i really is generally a unifying i process for the party so we are really is generally a unifying - process for the party so we are not talking _ process for the party so we are not talking as — process for the party so we are not talking as much _ process for the party so we are not talking as much about _ process for the party so we are not talking as much about build - process for the party so we are not talking as much about build back. talking as much about build back better or— talking as much about build back better or talking _ talking as much about build back better or talking about _ talking as much about build back better or talking about the - better or talking about the filibuster, _ better or talking about the filibuster, there _ better or talking about the filibuster, there really- better or talking about the filibuster, there really is l better or talking about the filibuster, there really is a| better or talking about the - filibuster, there really is a moment now to _ filibuster, there really is a moment now to talk— filibuster, there really is a moment now to talk about _ filibuster, there really is a moment now to talk about the _ filibuster, there really is a moment now to talk about the values - filibuster, there really is a moment now to talk about the values of- filibuster, there really is a moment now to talk about the values of the | now to talk about the values of the democratic— now to talk about the values of the democratic party— now to talk about the values of the democratic party and _ now to talk about the values of the democratic party and this - now to talk about the values of the | democratic party and this president and what _ democratic party and this president and what it— democratic party and this president and what it means _ democratic party and this president and what it means for— democratic party and this president and what it means for the - democratic party and this president and what it means for the future . democratic party and this president and what it means for the future of| and what it means for the future of our country — and what it means for the future of our country to _ and what it means for the future of our country to have _ and what it means for the future of our country to have a _ and what it means for the future of our country to have a supreme - and what it means for the future of. our country to have a supreme court have more _ our country to have a supreme court have more lived — our country to have a supreme court have more lived experience - our country to have a supreme court have more lived experience and - our country to have a supreme court have more lived experience and newj have more lived experience and new perspectives— have more lived experience and new perspectives on _ have more lived experience and new perspectives on the _ have more lived experience and new perspectives on the bench. - have more lived experience and new perspectives on the bench.- perspectives on the bench. talking about two of— perspectives on the bench. talking about two of the _ perspectives on the bench. talking about two of the names _ perspectives on the bench. talking about two of the names put - perspectives on the bench. talking | about two of the names put forward so far and one of them is a former law clerk to stephen breyer and there is another who serves on the california supreme court and do you know either of these two women? i don't know them well and i know thereby— don't know them well and i know thereby also— don't know them well and i know thereby also may _ don't know them well and i know thereby also may have _ don't know them well and i know thereby also may have been - don't know them well and i know thereby also may have been in. don't know them well and i know. thereby also may have been in the mix for— thereby also may have been in the mix for a _ thereby also may have been in the mix for a while _ thereby also may have been in the mix for a while talking _ thereby also may have been in the mix for a while talking about - thereby also may have been in the mix for a while talking about black women, _ mix for a while talking about black women, leaders, _ mix for a while talking about black women, leaders, judges _ mix for a while talking about black women, leaders, judges and - women, leaders, judges and particularly in _ women, leaders, judges and particularly in women - women, leaders, judges and particularly in women of - women, leaders, judges and . particularly in women of colour women, leaders, judges and - particularly in women of colour who were _ particularly in women of colour who were often— particularly in women of colour who were often working _ were often working | behind—the—scenes. were often working - behind—the—scenes. where were often working _ behind—the—scenes. where is a talent? — behind—the—scenes. where is a talent? where _ behind—the—scenes. where is a talent? where are _ behind—the—scenes. where is a talent? where are the new- behind—the—scenes. where is a - talent? where are the new leaders? and so— talent? where are the new leaders? and so they— talent? where are the new leaders? and so they are _ talent? where are the new leaders? and so they are well— talent? where are the new leaders? and so they are well known - talent? where are the new leaders? and so they are well known to - and so they are well known to folks behind _ and so they are well known to folks behind the — and so they are well known to folks behind the scenes— and so they are well known to folks behind the scenes who _ and so they are well known to folks behind the scenes who have - and so they are well known to folks behind the scenes who have been. behind the scenes who have been building _ behind the scenes who have been building the — behind the scenes who have been building the list— behind the scenes who have been building the list for— behind the scenes who have been building the list for this _ building the list for this administration - building the list for this administration and - building the list for this administration and for. building the list for this . administration and for the administrations— administration and for the administrations of- administration and for the administrations of the - administration and for the i administrations of the past administration and for the - administrations of the past and so in that— administrations of the past and so in that sense, _ administrations of the past and so in that sense, there _ administrations of the past and so in that sense, there is— administrations of the past and so in that sense, there is a _ administrations of the past and so in that sense, there is a real- in that sense, there is a real excitement— in that sense, there is a real excitement that _ in that sense, there is a real excitement that there - in that sense, there is a real excitement that there is - in that sense, there is a real excitement that there is not| in that sense, there is a real- excitement that there is not just one or— excitement that there is not just one or two — excitement that there is not just one or two names— excitement that there is not just one or two names but— excitement that there is not just one or two names but there - excitement that there is not just one or two names but there arei excitement that there is not justl one or two names but there are a handful— one or two names but there are a handful of— one or two names but there are a handful of names _ one or two names but there are a handful of names out _ one or two names but there are a handful of names out there - one or two names but there are a handful of names out there in - one or two names but there are aj handful of names out there in the question— handful of names out there in the question is— handful of names out there in the question is when _ handful of names out there in the question is when you _ handful of names out there in the question is when you start - handful of names out there in the question is when you start move i handful of names out there in the . question is when you start move this forward _ question is when you start move this forward and — question is when you start move this forward and it— question is when you start move this forward and it is— question is when you start move this forward and it is a _ question is when you start move this forward and it is a fast— question is when you start move this forward and it is a fast process. we i forward and it is a fast process. we don't _ forward and it is a fast process. we don't have — forward and it is a fast process. we don't have a — forward and it is a fast process. we don't have a lot _ forward and it is a fast process. we don't have a lot of _ forward and it is a fast process. we don't have a lot of time to- forward and it is a fast process. we don't have a lot of time to make i don't have a lot of time to make sure _ don't have a lot of time to make sure to — don't have a lot of time to make sure to go — don't have a lot of time to make sure to go to— don't have a lot of time to make sure to go to the _ don't have a lot of time to make sure to go to the committee - don't have a lot of time to makej sure to go to the committee and people can — sure to go to the committee and people can be _ sure to go to the committee and people can be vetted _ sure to go to the committee and people can be vetted and - sure to go to the committee and people can be vetted and all - sure to go to the committee and - people can be vetted and all the way to the _ people can be vetted and all the way to the process — people can be vetted and all the way to the process. joe, _ people can be vetted and all the way to the process-— to the process. joe, do you know either of the _ to the process. joe, do you know either of the women? _ to the process. joe, do you know either of the women? i - to the process. joe, do you know either of the women? i had - to the process. joe, do you know- either of the women? i had appeared before judge — either of the women? i had appeared before judge jackson _ either of the women? i had appeared before judge jackson brown - either of the women? i had appeared before judge jackson brown here - either of the women? i had appeared before judge jackson brown here in l before judge jackson brown here in dc and _ before judge jackson brown here in dc and she is brilliant and would be an excellent choice and she was recently — an excellent choice and she was recently elevated to the court of appeals — recently elevated to the court of appeals here in washington, dc, and ithink— appeals here in washington, dc, and i think that _ appeals here in washington, dc, and i think that president biden will have _ i think that president biden will have a — i think that president biden will have a deep bench of outstanding candidates and i think he will have no issues — candidates and i think he will have no issues finding an individual who will serve — no issues finding an individual who will serve very well in this ring court~ — will serve very well in this ring court. . s will serve very well in this ring court. ., ,, ., court. talking about the timing, the will court. 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in his decision to retire would of course be first of all his health, but also the standing of the court in the eyes of the american public. do you think that probably weighed quite heavily in his mind? it has to have. but we are seeing not only— it has to have. but we are seeing not only the _ it has to have. but we are seeing not only the things _ it has to have. but we are seeing not only the things that - it has to have. but we are seeing not only the things that the - it has to have. but we are seeing - not only the things that the supreme court is _ not only the things that the supreme court is having — not only the things that the supreme court is having to _ not only the things that the supreme court is having to weigh— not only the things that the supreme court is having to weigh in— not only the things that the supreme court is having to weigh in on, - not only the things that the supreme court is having to weigh in on, but. court is having to weigh in on, but ithink— court 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that there would be more at a — and the fear that there would be more at a balance _ and the fear that there would be more at a balance if— and the fear that there would be more at a balance if his - and the fear that there would be more at a balance if his timing l and the fear that there would be i more at a balance if his timing was not right, — more at a balance if his timing was not right, that _ more at a balance if his timing was not right, that leads— more at a balance if his timing was not right, that leads me _ more at a balance if his timing was not right, that leads me to- more at a balance if his timing was not right, that leads me to believe| not right, that leads me to believe that it _ not right, that leads me to believe that it weighed _ not right, that leads me to believe that it weighed on _ not right, that leads me to believe that it weighed on him _ not right, that leads me to believe that it weighed on him heavily- not right, that leads me to believe that it 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forward. for me, the time it really does matter— forward. for me, the time it really does matter and _ forward. for me, the time it really does matter and it _ forward. for me, the time it really does matter and it speaks - forward. for me, the time it really does matter and it speaks to - forward. for me, the time it really does matter and it speaks to the l does matter and it speaks to the importance — does matter and it speaks to the importance that _ does matter and it speaks to the importance that justice - does matter and it speaks to the importance thatjustice breyer. importance that justice breyer understands _ importance thatjustice breyer understands the _ importance thatjustice breyer understands the importance . importance thatjustice breyer| understands the importance of importance thatjustice breyer- understands the importance of this moment— understands the importance of this moment and — understands the importance of this moment and this _ understands the importance of this moment and this time _ understands the importance of this moment and this time and - understands the importance of this moment and this time and the - understands the importance of this moment and this time and the fact| moment and this time and the fact that we _ moment and this time and the fact that we are — moment and this time and the fact that we are going _ moment and this time and the fact that we are going into _ moment and this time and the fact that we are going into a _ moment and this time and the fact that we are going into a very- that we are going into a very different— that we are going into a very different election _ that we are going into a very different election cycle - that we are going into a very different election cycle thatl that we are going into a very- different election cycle that could change _ different election cycle that could change the — different election cycle that could change the balance _ different election cycle that could change the balance of— different election cycle that could change the balance of power- different election cycle that could change the balance of power and| different election cycle that could - change the balance of power and who decides _ change the balance of power and who decides that — change the balance of power and who decides that next _ change the balance of power and who decides that next justice. _ decides that next justice. interesting _ decides that next justice. interesting one _ decides that next justice. interesting one to - decides that next justice. interesting one to watchl decides that next justice. . interesting one to watch and decides that next justice. - interesting one to watch and it will happen very quickly. joe biden will be sure to do that quickly as well because politically it works for him. this is context on the bbc. still to come, waiting for the report on dowing street lockdown parties that could determine boris johnson's future. let's look at some of the other stories making headlines today. just under 3 million people in the uk had coronavirus last week, according to the latest research, a fall of half a million from the week before. but the number of children getting covid has increased. in northern ireland, the use of vaccine passports in some indoor settings, such as pubs, restaurants and cinemas, has today been scrapped. a million facemasks designed for use by front—line nhs staff were sent out to hospitals at the height of the pandemic despite warnings about their effectiveness. in a confidential government report seen by bbc news, the masks were described as counterfeit. it found health officials were dismissive of concerns and hadn't listened to warnings about the authenticity of the masks. the metropolitan police has referred itself to the watchdog, the iopc, over the death of yasmin chkaifi. she was stabbed in north london by herformer partner, leon mckasker, who was then killed by a passing motorist. mckasker had been wanted by police. there are growing calls for the motorist not to face a criminal investigation. the spectre of sue gray's investigation still looms over british politics and the everyday business of the prime minister. the report into the lockdown events in downing street was expected today, and yet still we wait. will it be tomorrow, next week? who knows? but borisjohnson and the more supportive tabloid newspapers are betting the british people are already tiring of cake and want to focus on what really matters. the prime minister was channelling plenty of that in the house of commons today. this was his response to those calling for his head. we've taken the tough decisions. we've got the big calls right. and we're, and in particular, i am getting on with the job. but the problems mount. tonight, leaked e—mails appear to contradict borisjohnson's claim he did not intervene to authorise the evacuation of 150 stray dogs and cats from afghanistan. the prime minister had said it was "complete nonsense" he'd stepped in to help the founder of the charity penn farthing, but in fact the new information appears to show the prime minister did just that. it was evacuation that frustrated other attempts to save afghans. with crises piling up, a police investigation ongoing, support on his backbenches wobbling, isn't it time, said the leader of the opposition, for the pm to call it a day. whatever he says in his statement later today or tomorrow won't change the facts. isn't this a prime minister and a government that have shown nothing but contempt for the decency, honesty and respect that define this country? normal services resumed in the bcm have all of our panelists with us now. ione wells, our politics correspodnent, joins us now. your ear has been firmly fixed to the ground all day. are we any closer because i have to tell you it's been a bit anti—climactic today? telling everyone to tune in for the report and still it's not here. . �* , for the report and still it's not 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report will be released and there will be - government is that the report will. be released and there will be enough time given— be released and there will be enough time given to — be released and there will be enough time given to opposition _ be released and there will be enough time given to opposition mps - be released and there will be enough time given to opposition mps as - be released and there will be enough time given to opposition mps as well| time given to opposition mps as well for them _ time given to opposition mps as well for them to— time given to opposition mps as well for them to have _ time given to opposition mps as well for them to have a _ time given to opposition mps as well for them to have a good _ time given to opposition mps as well for them to have a good look- time given to opposition mps as well for them to have a good look at - time given to opposition mps as well for them to have a good look at it. for them to have a good look at it before _ for them to have a good look at it before he does— for them to have a good look at it before he does go— for them to have a good look at it before he does go ahead - for them to have a good look at it. before he does go ahead and make that statement. _ before he does go ahead and make that statement.— before he does go ahead and make that statement. thank you very much indeed for that. _ that statement. thank you very much indeed for that. and _ that statement. thank you very much indeed for that. and chemically - that statement. thank you very much indeed for that. and chemically play i indeed for that. and chemically play you a clip from the leader of the opposition today who was one at the position that the cabinet now find themselves in. the reality is that we now have the shameful spectacle of a prime minister of the united kingdom being subject to a police investigation. unable to lead the country, incapable of doing the right thing, and every day his cabinet fail to speak out, they become more and more complicit. is there a danger, and, that they're not looking among themselves thinking we are on the hook here in the longer this goes on, the more damage it does to our standing in the eyes of the public and may be to our leadership chances?— our leadership chances? there is alwa s a our leadership chances? there is always a psychological— our leadership chances? there is always a psychological element i our leadership chances? there is | always a psychological element at play in the sense that a bit like interviewing different suspects in a crime, one of them break first before the main suspect? but i think most of the cam and take the view that we all hang together or we all hang separately and i think that's at the heart of this. first of all, the nature of this scandal and whether or not it sort of factored into how you view how borisjohnson conducts himself. but i think in terms of the contents, the people who would remove borisjohnson or conservative mps that may sound very undemocratic between an election but thatis undemocratic between an election but that is what would happen and then to think of you as to whether or not the conservative party as a governing party would be better off having quite a blood leadership election. particularly in the midst of all that's going on with covid—19 in the economy and ukraine or whether they can talk this out and over time the public will not met the salience of the scandal will reduce in the eyes of the public and there are all sorts of milestones on there are all sorts of milestones on the wife is unsure has been rehearsing the partner before but we talked about this now for about eight weeks. the local elections being the most obvious one in may. what us viewers might call the midterms as it were. and i think a lot of conservative mps will hold their fire until they actually get a chance to hear the verdict of the electorate at those elections. the prime minister _ electorate at those elections. the prime minister said today that he is totally fixed on the job at hand and that this is not a distraction for him but we do know that he and his team were in the house of commons till late last night meeting 15 mps, one—on—one, face—to—face, trying to bolster support for the prime minister. it is clearly a demonstration that this is distracting him from the work at hand. i distracting him from the work at hand. s �* , . distracting him from the work at hand. ,, �*, ., .,. hand. i think it's a fact it probably _ hand. i think it's a fact it probably is _ hand. i think it's a fact it probably is objectively i hand. i think it's a fact it i probably is objectively full hand. i think it's a fact it - probably is objectively full so hand. i think it's a fact it _ probably is objectively full so when i left parliament today, long after prime minister questions, the police are writers and the production vehicles were also there so it's a very physical manifestation that he was still in the palace of westminster and was fully there to talk to disgruntled mps and get them on site. so it can be very helpful to the business of government to have this hanging over his head but i don't think again to be very crude and blunt about it, spending your time showing up your position is not for borisjohnson or indeed people who are supporting him a resignation issue. it's a job that has to be done and they will see it that way in order to get through this but you start this statement of the programme talking about the sue gray report, is the end, is it out, like moses coming down from the mountain with the tablets of stone and clearly nothing is going to happen until that report is published. when the report is published, i don't like it's going to move things on particularly well and if you've already decided that borisjohnson is going, you'll read that report is that this confirms your opinion and if you've decided he should stay, you will read that report and it will your opinion. but you will read that report and it will your opinion.— you will read that report and it will your opinion. but the poll on the screen _ will your opinion. but the poll on the screen and _ will your opinion. but the poll on the screen and if _ will your opinion. but the poll on the screen and if that _ will your opinion. but the poll on the screen and if that you - will your opinion. but the poll on the screen and if that you can . will your opinion. but the poll on | the screen and if that you can see that 60% of people think that he should go and that is actually up from 54% two weeks ago but i want to stick on this theme that bringing in amanda here, the attitude towards politics in general because the labour leader talked with the damage being done to the body politic. it is a truism that american and british politics run parallel and joe biden right now has similar problems to the prime minister, albeit they come from a different place. if we look at the polling now today forjoe biden, you will see that 61% of republicans are enthused about the midterms and only 47% of democrats and that is directly inverted for we were at the last midterm. if you are talking about turnout and how important it is to a midterm election, that's a problem. it is a problem and is very natural that a sitting president has a really— that a sitting president has a really tough midterm time. interesting here is this new and renewed — interesting here is this new and renewed discussion of the supreme court _ renewed discussion of the supreme court does — renewed discussion of the supreme court does it really make it easier forjoe _ court does it really make it easier forjoe biden talk about the stakes of the _ forjoe biden talk about the stakes of the election and that is going to be an— of the election and that is going to be an important aspect as we go into the midterms because on the one hand, _ the midterms because on the one hand. it _ the midterms because on the one hand. it is — the midterms because on the one hand, it is and we know from history that this _ hand, it is and we know from history that this will — hand, it is and we know from history that this will be a very difficult midterm — that this will be a very difficult midterm for democrats but however we are also _ midterm for democrats but however we are also in _ midterm for democrats but however we are also in an _ midterm for democrats but however we are also in an incredibly different time _ are also in an incredibly different time in— are also in an incredibly different time in the — are also in an incredibly different time in the world with covid—19 and the economy and the partisanship we are seeing _ the economy and the partisanship we are seeing so in some ways the recent— are seeing so in some ways the recent conversation could be helpful to run _ recent conversation could be helpful to run the _ recent conversation could be helpful to run the country together. we recent conversation could be helpful to run the country together.- to run the country together. we will talk -la to run the country together. we will talk play more _ to run the country together. we will talk play more and _ to run the country together. we will talk play more and do _ to run the country together. we will talk play more and do stay - to run the country together. we will talk play more and do stay with - to run the country together. we will talk play more and do stay with us. | good evening. it might have felt like a long time coming, but most of us did see some glimpses of sunshine on wednesday. this was the picture in nottinghamshire. we've had quite a breeze to help to break up that cloud. it's going to be staying quite windy through the evening and tonight across northern parts of scotland. some wind and rain moving in from the north through this evening and through tonight. further south most places say a bit more settled, we've got high pressure to the south of the uk and this weather front here just slowly slipping its way south, quite a few isobars on the map and it's going to be particularly windy through tonight across the north of scotland for the likes of caithness and orkney. severe gales possible here, some disruptive, strong winds and large waves. further south we've got this weather front just sinking it's way south through the early hours of thursday through central parts of england and wales. for most of us there is enough cloud and enough of a breeze to keep things frost—free, could be just a touch of frost across parts of scotland, perhaps in the far south of england. heading through into thursday morning, we've got this weather front initially, just draped across central england and south wales. that will bring a zone of cloudy skies with patchy rain in the far south. also very windy to start the day across the north of scotland, but these winds slowly ease. showers moving in on this northwesterly breeze across northern and western parts of scotland. further south and east, most places looking drier and after the cloud clears away from the south, should be some sunshine for most. temperatures 10—13 degrees for most of us, colder across the north of scotland. moving through thursday evening and overnight into friday, high pressure still with us. we've got the next front approaching from the north west into friday. that could bring some rain initially to the north west of scotland, perhaps a few splashes of light rain across other northern and western areas. for central and eastern england, you're likely to keep the sunny spells through the day on friday. breezy, particularly the further north and west you are, but milder temperatures, 10—11 degrees for scotland and northern ireland, england and wales 8—10 degrees. heading on towards the weekend and high pressure not far away, sitting to south or southwest of the uk. we got this weather front approaching again from the northwest. i think, through the course of the weekend plenty of dry and settled weather around. mild on saturday, but certainly breezy. the weather front bringing cold the day on sunday with some outbreaks of rain, especially across the north and the north west. bye for now. hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching context on bbc news. the united states and nato tell the kremlin they will not give in to its security demands on eastern europe or compromise on ukrainian sovereignty. us secretary of state anthony blinken says there can be no compromise on ukraine's integrity, but he said bilateral talks soon could address moscow's concerns. us federal prosecutors are reviewing fake electoral college certificates, that declared former president donald trump the winner of states he lost in the 2020 election. tonight with the context, amanda renteria , former aide to hillary clinton and conservative peer ed vaizey the united states has tonight sent a written response to the kremlin, in answer to the demands president putin has made making of nato and ukraine. there has been no briefing on what is in that letter. but the secretary of state, anthony blinken, said it set out a serious diplomatic path, and areas in which the two sides can find agreement, namely arms control and the positioning of missiles. but mr blinken said they would never compromise on nato's founding principles. it is for nato, not for the united states unilaterally to discuss the open door policy. these are decisions that nato makes as an alliance, not the united states unilaterally but from our perspective i cannot be more clear. nato's door is open and remains open and that is our commitment. here's some of the other developments on ukraine today. the us has sent more military aid to ukraine, and six fighterjets to estonia to bolster nato's defences. the f—15 will take part in exercises along with four danish jets due to arrive in lithuania tomorrow. the built up continues on the other side. the russian defence ministry released footage today of fighter jets taking off for belarus. it has also released video of troops gathering in the rostov region, near the border with urkaine. meanwhile — as europe continues to threaten sanctions — the russian president was holding a virtual two—hour meeting with top italian businessmen. who had all defied a call from the italian prime minister to cancel the event. it was held by the italian—russian chamber of commerce and included the energy giant enel, insurer generali and the tyre manufacturer pirelli. bill browder is the head of the global magnitskyjustice campaign and author of red notice: how i became putin's number one enemy. what would the most effective sanctions look like if they were to be imposed on vladimir putin? thea;r be imposed on vladimir putin? they robabl be imposed on vladimir putin? they probably should _ be imposed on vladimir putin? tie: probably should not be be imposed on vladimir putin? ti9:1: probably should not be widespread sanctions against the russian people but vladimir putin is arguably the richest man in the world has stolen and enormous amount of money from russian people and that money is held in the name of oligarchs and oligarch trustees don't hold that money in russia they hold it in the last and banks in the uk and new york and switzerland and various places and show the best way to stopping putin from all of this terrible stuff he's doing is to go after his money in the and the best way to go after his money is to freeze the assets of the oligarch trustees and that something that's entirely possible, possible and already in law and out of the major countries where putin keeps his money. if countries where putin keeps his mone . :, :, , countries where putin keeps his mone. :, :, , , s, countries where putin keeps his mone. :, :, , , :, :::: money. if already starting 200 million dollars _ money. if already starting 200 million dollars from _ money. if already starting 200 million dollars from his - money. if already starting 200 million dollars from his fellow| million dollars from his fellow russians, why wouldn't he do that again if he confiscated his money, it would not solve the problem, he would go about the same criminalisty that we allege he's been involved in before. �* , :, , :, :, :, before. there's only a finite amount of money in — before. there's only a finite amount of money in russia _ before. there's only a finite amount of money in russia and _ before. there's only a finite amount of money in russia and you - before. there's only a finite amount of money in russia and you have . before. there's only a finite amount of money in russia and you have to | of money in russia and you have to understand a person who values money might in human life it's notjust a ticking 20 years to steal all that money and he had to clean up of people and take a lot of people hostage and shake a lot of people down and it did not come easy and so for him he values money tremendously and i know how much he values it because i was involved in the passage of the act which is the legislation named after maite murdered russian lawyer which is the act that freezes version —— russian assets and he was so angry when that piece of legislation passed he made it the single largest foreign policy priority to repeat it and so we know he does not like it and e—mail he scared of having his own money and instead of going after him in a widespread way we should do it very surgically and go after his money. that is not straightforward picnic —— particularly here in the uk. a lot of that money is invested in london and we do now the fact that the mirror reported just recently that a quarter of the ministers attending cabinets have taken russian inc. cash around 2 million pounds from donors with russian links and they are the people sitting in on the decisions. we are facin: an sitting in on the decisions. we are facing an existential— sitting in on the decisions. we are facing an existential crisis - sitting in on the decisions. we are facing an existential crisis here, i sitting in on the decisions. we are facing an existential crisis here, a | facing an existential crisis here, a national security crisis, a crisis of massive proportions for a few million pounds i think those guys can fit it out and recuse themselves from any decisions and those who have not taken the russian money should get on with protecting the nation and protecting europe and protecting civilisation from this terrible tyrant. is protecting civilisation from this terrible tyrant.— protecting civilisation from this terrible tyrant. is there a problem with russian _ terrible tyrant. is there a problem with russian money _ terrible tyrant. is there a problem with russian money that - terrible tyrant. is there a problem with russian money that is - terrible tyrant. is there a problem with russian money that is going | with russian money that is going around in the uk which has found its way into the coffers of the establishment? i way into the coffers of the establishment?— way into the coffers of the establishment? i think it is a problem- _ establishment? i think it is a problem- i— establishment? i think it is a problem. i am _ establishment? i think it is a problem. i am not— establishment? i think it is a problem. i am not going - establishment? i think it is a problem. i am not going to i establishment? i think it is a i problem. i am not going to go establishment? i think it is a - problem. i am not going to go into the ins and — problem. i am not going to go into the ins and not because i'm not an expert _ the ins and not because i'm not an expert he's— the ins and not because i'm not an expert. he's an enormous amount of his life _ expert. he's an enormous amount of his life and _ expert. he's an enormous amount of his life and he's done very good work— his life and he's done very good work in — his life and he's done very good work in terms of holding putin and his russian— work in terms of holding putin and his russian oligarchs to account and his lawyer— his russian oligarchs to account and his lawyer lost his life doing it so i'm not going to second—guess the analysis— i'm not going to second—guess the analysis and i'm not going to go through— analysis and i'm not going to go through individual advice because they don't— through individual advice because they don't have the expertise and knowledge to say without doubt this is clean _ knowledge to say without doubt this is clean russian money are not clean russian _ is clean russian money are not clean russian money and we know russian money is _ russian money and we know russian money is everywhere. in theory i may have given _ money is everywhere. in theory i may have given money to watch chelsea matches _ have given money to watch chelsea matches i— have given money to watch chelsea matches. i find the russian behaviour extraordinary and i find it extraordinary we are not going further— it extraordinary we are not going further because they murdered a british— further because they murdered a british citizen on british soil and a place — british citizen on british soil and a place in — british citizen on british soil and a place in the russian, to russian dissidents— a place in the russian, to russian dissidents and putting many members of the _ dissidents and putting many members of the public at risk and london has this reputation of being a money laundering capital and i think we should _ laundering capital and i think we should do— laundering capital and i think we should do more to clean it up and i think— should do more to clean it up and i think we _ should do more to clean it up and i think we should work with the us administration who wants to do that and with— administration who wants to do that and with the european union that wants— and with the european union that wants to — and with the european union that wants to do that and i don't know whether— wants to do that and i don't know whether it's the right strategy because — whether it's the right strategy because i am not an expert on this but certainly extends to reason that one of— but certainly extends to reason that one of the _ but certainly extends to reason that one of the main ways you can combat the way— one of the main ways you can combat the way russia is behaving is to go after— the way russia is behaving is to go after the _ the way russia is behaving is to go after the money of the people in charge _ after the money of the people in charge of— after the money of the people in charge of the russian government. the reader— charge of the russian government. the reader enough to track this russian money down and check that it is clean money that is going towards campaigns and parties?— is clean money that is going towards campaigns and parties? london is the money laundering _ campaigns and parties? london is the money laundering capital— campaigns and parties? london is the money laundering capital of— campaigns and parties? london is the money laundering capital of the - money laundering capital of the world right now. the reason that it is is because the law enforcement agencies do not prosecute anybody for money laundering and they don't use the tools that are available and we have identified massive amounts of money connected to the murder of serge coming to this country and the authorities have refused to open a criminal investigation whereas law—enforcement authorities many other countries have frozen this money and what i've seen here is for reasons that are hard to explain nobody wants to do anything. they don't want to kill the golden goose and until we differentiate between good money and bad money this country is going to be compromised. this is the issue. this is why washington has such concerns about the european standing together. i just showing you pictures of italian businessman on a video call with vladimir putin the connections between eight and the russians. germany, 40% of its gas comes from russia and is private money invested and lots of money invested here in london. is that whyjoe biden and the secretary of state have such concerns? i the secretary of state have such concerns? s , the secretary of state have such concerns?— the secretary of state have such concerns? ,, , :, :, concerns? lthink it is twofold. one is strategic — concerns? lthink it is twofold. one is strategic and _ concerns? lthink it is twofold. one is strategic and making _ concerns? lthink it is twofold. one is strategic and making sure - concerns? lthink it is twofold. one is strategic and making sure there i is strategic and making sure there is strategic and making sure there is a very clear line of what is willing to accept and if you end up knowing our life that are willing to move it makes it difficult to negotiate but there is another piece going on which isjoe biden establishing himself in this seer with russia and from the very beginning he has consistently said i would take a strong stance and i would take a strong stance and i would be very clear. this is in the backdrop about having dealt with afghanistan and gaining some of the lessons in terms of communicating with the public but for him and his administration you can see is a different kind of effort and a different kind of effort and a different kind of confidence and how they are dealing with that in april ten and i want to say as we look at russia it's not simply about the money but the reputation that russia has not only broadly but here in america as well. there are a lot of quiet republicans right now who are quite concerned about what are we going to start to surface in these conversations now that russia isn't playing this role and being a lot more aggressive and this president is willing to talk about it in ways that the last president was not willing to talk about it and you are beginning to see problems surface and america taking a much more leadership stance in defining a line and that has been very different for this administration and i think a really important point forjoe biden. :, :, , , biden. you have studied president putin very closely _ biden. you have studied president putin very closely over _ biden. you have studied president putin very closely over the - biden. you have studied president putin very closely over the years. | putin very closely over the years. there have been talks on going tonight in paris between the ukrainians and the russians and the germans on the french, president micron is putting a positive spin on it saying the talks were a good statement on the russian say it did not benefit and it all and we have seen the pictures that i've shown everybody of the build up continuing. it go? it’s everybody of the build up continuing. it go? it's pretty straightforward. _ continuing. it go? it's pretty straightforward. vladimir. continuing. it go? it's pretty i straightforward. vladimir putin wants to basically take over ukraine one way or another. he wants ukraine to be a satellite country of russia. he wants ukraine to not be an peat member of the european member, not to be a member of nato and to be under his control and everyone is talking about diplomacy but there is no diplomacy you can do and it's not like you can save we will give you half of ukraine if you stop it because there is nothing that can really be said in all of these talks and so the only thing vladimir putin understands his firm, hard consequences and it's not like we started this. he's the one who put his 100,000 troops on the border. not america, not the uk, not the europeans and so he's the one who has to back down and the only way we can make him back down is if he understands very seriously that that things are going to happen and it may very well be we should start stealing the sanctions for he crosses the border. why wait for him to cross the border? why not sanctions if you oligarchs right now to show we are serious and they're not sitting here tweeting our thumbs and in disarray not being able to be read each other. if we do something right now that makes a signal vladimir putin that we are serious and much more terrible things will come afterwards. preemptive sanctions which some are asking for at the moment. federal prosecutors are reviewing fake electoral college certificates, that declared former president donald trump the winner of states he lost in the 2020 election. the deputy attorney general, lisa monaco said there are investigations ongoing in seven states where mr trump's supporters including his lawyer rudi giulliani are accused of putting forward an alternate slate of electors. in american elections, each state counts the votes and awards its electoral votes to the candidate who won. those electors meet in the statehouse at a designated date in december, where they sign certificates to finalise the process. it's a formality. a copy of those certificates would be sent to the national archives in washington. the official certificates — the real certificates — are opened and counted during a joint session of congress onjanuary six. it sounds like a very fancy way to try and feel an election to send in fake certificates from state and actors. clearly not the electors chosen by democrats to representjoe biden, in the hope that mike pence would stand at the dispatch box at the joint congress and say that state of arizona awards for state their votes to donald trump? was that what they thought was going to happen? that what they thought was going to ha - en? , :, that what they thought was going to ha--en? , . , happen? yes. one of the things we are seeinu happen? yes. one of the things we are seeing is _ happen? yes. one of the things we are seeing is the _ happen? yes. one of the things we are seeing is the audacity _ happen? yes. one of the things we are seeing is the audacity as - happen? yes. one of the things we are seeing is the audacity as late i are seeing is the audacity as late as the creativity to stretch what seems to be a little bit of vagueness in a way that really was planned and a lot of the conversation now that is surfacing is this was a concerted effort and there was much just people coming together and figuring out how can we overturn it, there is actually a plan on video of folks trying to do this and what you are hearing from republican attorneys out there is saying yes, we know it's a bit odd but the law is vague and that is culminating into a push to figure out can the congress come together and we do that 1887 law so that there's not the vagueness and you don't have people treat interactions in this same way in the future? but right now this is all surfacing in real time and we are seeing the videos and the question will be can attorneys be successful in making sure they can define the law or put people injail while punished for this is not happening again across the country. i this is not happening again across the country-— the country. i want to understand how this works. _ the country. i want to understand how this works. the _ the country. i want to understand how this works. the allegation . the country. i want to understand how this works. the allegation is| how this works. the allegation is the same time giuliani and his friends were calling report tested the four seasons garden centre and set of the four seasons hotel in philadelphia he was at the same time meeting these seven and seven different states the people who are going to impersonate the real electors and they were going to sign these false certificates which then found their way to the national archives so these are copies of the certificates and is the question whether that's in fact was a fraud or whether that is illegal? hat whether that's in fact was a fraud or whether that is illegal? not on whether it was _ or whether that is illegal? not on whether it was a _ or whether that is illegal? not on whether it was a vehicle - or whether that is illegal? not on whether it was a vehicle but - or whether that is illegal? not on whether it was a vehicle but who | whether it was a vehicle but who actually in that process was the person that should have known better? is it republican governors, is it republican leaders who had a position of power that should have been able to interpret the law or at least by legal means not send this paper over to the archives and that's the real question here is what is the actual loss say and what you hearfrom both sides is you have to go state—by—state to figure out who can be held accountable or what needs to happen going forward. there is no doubt you will hear across the board which is the law is not clear enough in some cases but in those that are if there is a real intensity to make sure folks are held accountable because this was a real concerted effort and it can happen again in this election cycle or the next election cycle. i happen again in this election cycle or the next election cycle.- or the next election cycle. i guess it would be _ or the next election cycle. i guess it would be the _ or the next election cycle. i guess it would be the returning - or the next election cycle. i guess it would be the returning officer i it would be the returning officer standing up with the result in his hand and calling it for someone else. bill hand and calling it for someone else. : , ' hand and calling it for someone else. : , , :, hand and calling it for someone else. , , :, :, else. all the stuffing of ballot -a ers else. all the stuffing of ballot papers which _ else. all the stuffing of ballot papers which has _ else. all the stuffing of ballot papers which has occurred . else. all the stuffing of ballot papers which has occurred in | else. all the stuffing of ballot. papers which has occurred in the else. all the stuffing of ballot - papers which has occurred in the art english _ papers which has occurred in the art english election but has not occurred _ english election but has not occurred in significant ways since the 18th — occurred in significant ways since the 18th century and it really is mind—boggling and 16 astonishment and i mind—boggling and 16 astonishment and i don't — mind—boggling and 16 astonishment and i don't want to sound like i am critical— and i don't want to sound like i am critical it— and i don't want to sound like i am critical it is — and i don't want to sound like i am critical it is hard for a british politician to be commenting on us politics— politician to be commenting on us politics but it is terrifying to see the norms— politics but it is terrifying to see the norms of constitutional debate in the _ the norms of constitutional debate in the greatest democracy in the world _ in the greatest democracy in the world falling apart. i mentioned earlier— world falling apart. i mentioned earlier the report and if you are pro boris — earlier the report and if you are pro boris you will say that but it's on a _ pro boris you will say that but it's on a much, — pro boris you will say that but it's on a much, much bigger scale but almost _ on a much, much bigger scale but almost anything your person does is acceptable _ almost anything your person does is acceptable because he is your person and to— acceptable because he is your person and to a _ acceptable because he is your person and to a certain extent i saw this in the _ and to a certain extent i saw this in the brexit debate if i can draw a parallel. what i found so appalling about _ parallel. what i found so appalling about the — parallel. what i found so appalling about the debate we have after the brexit _ about the debate we have after the brexit referendum and after the boat was in _ brexit referendum and after the boat was in was _ brexit referendum and after the boat was in was each time the democratic institutions— was in was each time the democratic institutions which it was supposed to venerate in this country got involved — to venerate in this country got involved the people who decided they on the _ involved the people who decided they on the result of the referendum, not the politicians, not the people, so the politicians, not the people, so the judges — the politicians, not the people, so the judges gave a verdict which they .ave the judges gave a verdict which they gave parliament have a say on brexit and the _ gave parliament have a say on brexit and the trash the judges and then parliament did not vote they trust department and they trashed at the bbc the _ department and they trashed at the bbc the civil servants extraordinary i bbc the civil servants extraordinary l guess— bbc the civil servants extraordinary i guess there's always been an obvious— i guess there's always been an obvious democratic politics but i guess— obvious democratic politics but i guess it's — obvious democratic politics but i guess it's not something we see in recent— guess it's not something we see in recent years. it guess it's not something we see in recent years-— recent years. it is why joe biden is sa in: recent years. it is why joe biden is saying that — recent years. it is why joe biden is saying that democracy _ recent years. it is why joe biden is saying that democracy at - recent years. it is why joe biden is saying that democracy at the - recent years. it is why joe biden is . saying that democracy at the moment is so fragile and on the back of this today one of the big centreleft think tanks they put out a statement saying democrats need to run to campaigns in 2022 and 2024 and one that is political and one that is designed to protect the balance so money put into protecting those who are counting the votes and those who are counting the votes and those who are texting the electoral process that the senior people in the state have and that's an extraordinary statement that the money and time and effort needs to be spent on the process itself aside from the politics. process itself aside from the olitics. :, , , politics. that is right. this statement _ politics. that is right. this statement has _ politics. that is right. this statement has been - politics. that is right. this statement has been made politics. that is right. this . statement has been made by politics. that is right. this - statement has been made by quite politics. that is right. this _ statement has been made by quite a few institutions for some period of time that have been on the outside but the reality of the infrastructure and the way that it is a over time notjust who is in the legislature but the process itself and the laws that have been changed over time one at that time here and there is now coming to a summation where it's difficult that evenif summation where it's difficult that even if you have a candidate that is representative of the state that i just asked themselves could actually harm that there election process and so it is time, long past time to put some work into what we need to do to make sure we have the kind of infrastructure where you can have truth free and fair elections because of all the laws that have now changed and what we are going to need to do to get it back on track and that is really whatjoe biden was speaking to you when he was asked about his democracy ok and will this inaction be ok? it will be if we are focused on campaigns as well as infrastructure because both of those are what determines the election results. we of those are what determines the election results.— of those are what determines the election results. this is context on the bbc. still to come on the programme, if you like to use traditional phrases, you may find you are met with some blank stares. a new study has found that dozens of old british sayings are at risk of dying out. the jury in the trial of two men and a teenage girl accused of murdering a doctor in a park in cardiff has been played a recording of them attacking him, and him begging them to stop. dr garyjenkins, who was 54 and a consultant psychiatrist, was beaten and robbed last summer. all of the accused admit manslaughter and robbery, but deny murder. our wales correspondent, steven fairclough, reports. in the audio recording that was played this morning doctor garyjenkins can be heard pleading for the attack on him to stop. he is repeatedly heard saying leave me alone, stop it, leave me alone. he asks why he is being attacked. partly through the 15 minute recording he stopped speaking. and all that can be heard are moans. a passer—by is heard shouting asking for the attack to stop. the audio is captured on cctv in a camera inside a cafe close to where the attack took place. there are no pictures associated with the recording. but the prosecution say there are four main voices that can be heard are the voices of doctorjenkins and the defendants strickland, jason edwards and a teenage girl who cannot be identified for legal reasons. the male voices can be heard shouting homophobic abuse and describing violent acts. the female voice at one point is heard to demand money and at the end she is heard to say yeah, i needed that. the jury saw cctv images of strickland buying whisky with doctorjenkins card at a garage just eight minutes later. they also saw an embrace betweenjason edwards and the girl and the two men came back together and they embraced before riding around cardiff city centre on a bicycle. strickland, edwards, and a teenage girl who was 16 at the time of the attack have admitted manslaughter and robbery but deny murder. the case is continuing. would you adam and eve it, there is a poll out here in the uk today that has found that some of our most common sayings are dying out. we are losing some of our best known phrases, flash in the pan, tickety boo, a dog's dinner, mad as a hatter. they are all going out of fashion. more than half the respondents in a recent survey said they don't use them any more. this saddens me because this is part of who we are. and happy about this. what are your favourite and where do they come from? fine what are your favourite and where do they come from?— they come from? one has to be careful. they come from? one has to be careful- one — they come from? one has to be careful. one has— they come from? one has to be careful. one has to _ they come from? one has to be careful. one has to be - they come from? one has to be careful. one has to be careful. they come from? one has to be| careful. one has to be careful in woke culture. you are driving me around the band or whatever or i could murder a curry is not something you should see yourself saying. what i love about the british and american link is whatever happens even when our old phrases they we will still be two countries separated by common language and i relish the time an active american friend of mine to meet david cameron and he want david cameron to do something and he came out of the meeting 20 minutes later saying that was a fantastic meeting i am so pleased that david cameron agreed. and i said no he did not. he said no. , ,, , :, said no. here is mine. see if you can work— said no. here is mine. see if you can work out _ said no. here is mine. see if you can work out what _ said no. here is mine. see if you can work out what these - said no. here is mine. see if you can work out what these are. . said no. here is mine. see if you| can work out what these are. this said no. here is mine. see if you . can work out what these are. this is what my granddad used to say for me. they are both the same. you must be absolutely useless. what is your favourite for phrase? i absolutely useless. what is your favourite for phrase?— favourite for phrase? i think we need to come _ favourite for phrase? i think we need to come up _ favourite for phrase? i think we need to come up with - favourite for phrase? i think we need to come up with some . favourite for phrase? i think we | need to come up with some new favourite for phrase? i think we - need to come up with some new ones. a new— need to come up with some new ones. a new generation, new sayings. is a new generation, new sayings. is there a new generation, new sayings. there an a new generation, new sayings. is there an american phrase that you use? i there an american phrase that you use? ::, �* s there an american phrase that you use? : :, �* 4' :, there an american phrase that you use? �* ~ :, :, :, use? i can't think of one right now. this is our— use? i can't think of one right now. this is our challenge. _ use? i can't think of one right now. this is our challenge. the - use? i can't think of one right now. this is our challenge. the efficacy i this is our challenge. the efficacy of both. the tablet company. see you tomorrow, goodbye. hello. sunshine has been in fairly short supply for many of us over recent days, but wednesday did bring a bit more blue sky and sunshine. this was the picture in pembrokeshire and that was because we had more of a breeze. it helped to break up all that cloud and things staying quite windy, in fact, at least through the first part of wednesday, but over the next few days, really, the rest of this week we're going to be seeing spells of sunshine, often fairly breezy, mainly dry towards the south, but there will be some rain in the forecast at times across northern parts of the uk. now this is how we start thursday. windy initially for northern scotland, particularly for orkney and caithness as well, some scattered showers in the far north—west. early cloud and a few spots of drizzly rain in the south, clearing away towards the south, just lingering through the channel isles, but the rest of us, a return to some sunshine. pretty mild, 12 or 13 degrees for many, but colder across the northern half of scotland. and as we move through thursday evening and overnight into friday, it's mainly dry, the wind is falling fairly light, so that's the recipe for some frostiness around, i think, temperatures in the countryside down to near freezing or even a little bit below and we're likely to see some pockets of fog around too, particularly for central and eastern parts of england, perhaps eastern scotland as well. high pressure holds on towards the south as we move through into friday, but we'll see weather fronts trying to move in from the north—west. so it's going to be turning wetter and windier initially for the west of scotland, perhaps some splashes of lighter rain for other western parts of the uk. for central and eastern england, you're likely to stay with some sunny spells and the dry weather continues on friday. temperatures somewhere between about 8 to perhaps 11 degrees or so, reasonably typical for this time of year. now heading on towards the weekend, then, friday night into saturday now. high pressure very much settled towards the south and we've got weather fronts again trying to move in from the north—west. so some wetter, windier weather on saturday, particularly for scotland and also for northern ireland. as that weather front pushes south across england and wales, it will tend to peter out, so not much rain around by the time that weather front reaches the south. sunny spells follow on and it will be mild. some of us up to about 14 degrees or so. turning colder for a time into sunday, as we've got a cold front that moves away towards the south, this area of low pressure approaches from the atlantic. now if you were watching yesterday, we were talking about uncertainty about how far north or south this area of low pressure is going to be. computer models now starting to agree that it will be generally found further north, so that means on sunday, probably the wettest and windiest of the weather will be across parts of scotland. a risk of some snow over the higher ground as well, perhaps northern ireland and north—west england seeing a bit of that wet and windy weather too. most likely that further south and east, you'll be staying dry, but it could be that that system is a little bit further south. it will eventually get out the way, petering out again as it moves its way further south and then clears off towards the east. so we've got a north—westerly airflow, now this is heading through into monday, so a colder day, i think, on monday with some sunshine and perhaps one or two showers, a little bit wintry over the higher ground for northern and for western parts of the uk. driest towards the east, but even in the sunshine, it's not going to feel particularly warm, with temperatures between 5 to perhaps 9 degrees on monday. so the first part of next week then — we've got high pressure sitting to the south—west, low pressure in the north—east and that means the north—westerly flow of air. so fairly chilly with a mix of sunny spells and a few scattered showers. through the second half of next week, that colder air that we will have initially in place tends to get cleared away and what we'll see is more of an atlantic influence and that so the temperatures reasonably typical, really, for this time of year. bye for now. tonight at ten, prince andrew demands a trial byjury in new york as he rejects the allegations of sex abuse. it's his official legal response to the claims made by virginia giuffre. andrew's demand for trial byjury was filed after he failed to have the case dismissed earlier this month. it's a fairly common request when you want your case to be heard, when you want your case to be heard, when you want your case to be heard, when you want maximum exposure because you want maximum exposure because you feel you've been wronged. we'll be asking what the legal document tells us about andrew's likely defence case. also tonight... survive this, prime minister? borisjohnson, still waiting for the official report into parties at number 10, tells mps he has no intention of stepping down. the ministerial code says that ministers who knowingly mislead

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