paratroopers shot dead 13 innocent civil rights marchers in northern ireland. it is forever known as bloody sunday. peter taylor analyses what happened. this programme contains scenes some viewers may find distressing. 50 yea rs 50 years ago this month on the day forever known as bloody sunday, paratroopers shot dead 13 innocent civilians on a civil rights march in londonderry derry. civil rights march in londonder der . , ., , londonderry derry. they hold us in this jacket. — londonderry derry. they hold us in this jacket, and _ londonderry derry. they hold us in this jacket, and they - londonderry derry. they hold us in this jacket, and theyjust - in this jacket, and theyjust document... the in this jacket, and theyjust the commanding officer was colonel derek wilford. we were under attack. _ colonel derek wilford. we were under attack. the _ colonel derek wilford. we were under attack. the head - colonel derek wilford. we were under attack. the head of - colonel derek wilford. we were under attack. the head of the i under attack. the head of the in . ui under attack. the head of the inquiry did — under attack. the head of the inquiry did not _ under attack. the head of the inquiry did not believe. - under attack. the head of the inquiry did not believe. he . under attack. the head of the | inquiry did not believe. he did couldn't let _ inquiry did not believe. he did couldn't let his _ inquiry did not believe. he did couldn't let his soldiers - inquiry did not believe. he did couldn't let his soldiers down. explosion. the 30th of january, 1972, the day that forever became known as bloody sunday, is one of the darkest stains on britain's record. it is the day when british paratroopers shot dead 13 innocent catholics and nationalists during a civil rights march. they were protesting against that was 50 years ago. today, the names of the victims are commemorated on the bloody sunday memorial here in the heart of the box side. it's a day that i will never forget. it was my first ever visit to northern ireland and the day that i came face—to—face for the first time with a shocking reality. at the time, i knew very little about the so—called troubles. the epic inquiry into what happened, and inquiry that took 12 years and cost almost £200 million, was conducted by lord seibel. he's given newsnight a rare interview. how did you first hear about bloody sunday? did you first hear about bloody sunda ? ~ , ., sunday? well, i first heard it, i sunday? well, i first heard it, i remember— sunday? well, i first heard it, i remember on _ sunday? well, i first heard it, i remember on the _ sunday? well, i first heard it, i remember on the radio - sunday? well, i first heard it, i remember on the radio as i l i remember on the radio as i was driving back from the south coast having been hang gliding. i thought yet another awful eventin i thought yet another awful event in northern ireland. but it didn't much go further than that because there was unremitting bad news coming out of northern ireland in that period. of northern ireland in that eriod. , ~' ., of northern ireland in that .eriod. , ~ ., ., , period. did you know anything about northern _ period. did you know anything about northern ireland - period. did you know anything about northern ireland at - period. did you know anything about northern ireland at the | about northern ireland at the time? ~ ., ., about northern ireland at the time? ., ,, ., about northern ireland at the time? a, ., ,, ., . time? more or less nothing at all. i time? more or less nothing at all- i had _ time? more or less nothing at all. i had never— time? more or less nothing at all. i had never been - time? more or less nothing at all. i had never been there. i all. i had never been there. bloody sunday casted long shadow today with relatives still fighting for the justice they believe they have been denied. no soldier has been prosecuted. john kelly lost his brother, michael.— brother, michael. murder is murder- — brother, michael. murder is murder- no _ brother, michael. murder is murder. no matter- brother, michael. murder is murder. no matter how - brother, michael. murder is. murder. no matter how lawful brother, michael. murder is- murder. no matter how lawful it is. �* murder. no matter how lawful it is. ~ i: murder. no matter how lawful it is. 11, .,, murder. no matter how lawful it is. �* 11, ., is. almost 50 years on, the officer commanding - is. almost 50 years on, the officer commanding the - is. almost 50 years on, the | officer commanding the first italian parachute regiment still believes his soldiers were justified still believes his soldiers werejustified in opening still believes his soldiers were justified in opening fire. we thought we were under attack. we remain convinced of that until the end of our days. sunday dawned a glorious if chilly day with the sun shining out of the cloudier sky. there was an almost carnival atmosphere. a group of seven fans went together on this civil rights march. dennis was one of them.— one of them. they were 'ust auoin to one of them. they were 'ust going to march i one of them. they were 'ust going to march straight h one of them. they were just going to march straight on l one of them. they were just i going to march straight on and let the world know. there are grievances here, and they have to be solved.— to be solved. the powers were awaitin: to be solved. the powers were awaiting beyond _ to be solved. the powers were awaiting beyond the _ to be solved. the powers were awaiting beyond the barricade| awaiting beyond the barricade to move in and arrest the writers. they were briefed on what to expect. the battalion�*s sergeant major remembers being warned about the potential threat. the giant tower block in the box side.— in the box side. our orders were to — in the box side. our orders were to go _ in the box side. our orders were to go in _ in the box side. our orders were to go in there - in the box side. our orders were to go in there and - in the box side. our orders i were to go in there and make arrests — were to go in there and make arrests. arrest the writer is. what — arrests. arrest the writer is. what did _ arrests. arrest the writer is. what did you expect? i expected to 0 en what did you expect? i expected to open fire- _ what did you expect? i expected to open fire. colonel— what did you expect? i expected to open fire. colonel welter - to open fire. colonel welter was awful— to open fire. colonel welter was awful briefed. - to open fire. colonel welter was awful briefed. he - to open fire. colonel welter was awful briefed. he was l to open fire. colonel welter - was awful briefed. he was under strict orders to arrest the rioters. the powers —— paras fired before four o'clock. they claimed one of them was a petrol bomber. saville says he was not. minutes later, there is a second shot fired by an official gunmen. what was the significance of that? the significance _ significance of that? the significance was - significance of that? the significance was there i significance of that? tue: significance was there was significance of that? tte: significance was there was at least one weapon on the other side, and if there was one weapon, there were probably others. ., , others. the paratroopers were - re others. the paratroopers were pretty hyped _ others. the paratroopers were pretty hyped up- _ others. the paratroopers were pretty hyped up. does - others. the paratroopers were pretty hyped up. does that - others. the paratroopers were l pretty hyped up. does that help explain something of what happened? t explain something of what happened?— explain something of what happened? explain something of what ha ened? ~ ., , , happened? i think it does. they should've realised _ happened? i think it does. they should've realised that - happened? i think it does. they should've realised that the - should've realised that the chances _ should've realised that the chances of an outbreak of firing _ chances of an outbreak of firing and innocent people being _ firing and innocent people being shot in an exchange of fire was_ being shot in an exchange of fire was such that he shouldn't send _ fire was such that he shouldn't send his— fire was such that he shouldn't send his troops down into the box side _ send his troops down into the box side. ., ,._ send his troops down into the box side. ., _ ,. box side. you say in your re ort box side. you say in your report on _ box side. you say in your report on the _ box side. you say in your report on the shootings l box side. you say in your. report on the shootings by box side. you say in your - report on the shootings by the paratroopers, none of those shot was armed with a firearm, none was posing any threat, no warning was given before the —— how can you be sure of that? because this is what it meant we spent _ because this is what it meant we spent some 12 years doing. we looked at every conceivable piece _ we looked at every conceivable piece of — we looked at every conceivable piece of evidence that we could find _ piece of evidence that we could find i— piece of evidence that we could find. . , , piece of evidence that we could find. ., , , ., find. i arrived in derry late in the evening _ find. i arrived in derry late in the evening of- find. i arrived in derry late in the evening of bloody i in the evening of bloody sunday. the following morning with some trepidation, i came down here into the box bogside. there were pools of blood on the ground and flowers lying side them. it was here that i did the first ever interview i did in northern ireland. it was with a former british soldier called jack chapman. he lived here in one of those flats. his balcony gave him a grandstand view of what happened.— gave him a grandstand view of what happened. state one, take one, mr chapman. _ what happened. state one, take one, mr chapman. the - what happened. state one, take one, mr chapman. the troops . what happened. state one, take i one, mr chapman. the troops got out of their— one, mr chapman. the troops got out of their cars, _ one, mr chapman. the troops got out of their cars, followed - one, mr chapman. the troops got out of their cars, followed by - out of their cars, followed by 100 paratroopers, and they immediately got down into fighting positions and fired into the fleeing cloud. colonel wilford was _ into the fleeing cloud. colonel wilford was interviewed - into the fleeing cloud. colonel wilford was interviewed in - into the fleeing cloud. colonel wilford was interviewed in the bogside when the shooting was over. . . . over. the fact we were fired at first and we — over. the fact we were fired at first and we retaliated - over. the fact we were fired at first and we retaliated and - over. the fact we were fired at first and we retaliated and the| first and we retaliated and the only way possible to us, which was returned fire. jack chapman was returned fire. jack chapman was a crucial _ was returned fire. jack chapman was a crucial eyewitness. - was returned fire. jack chapman was a crucial eyewitness. all. was a crucial eyewitness. all the was a crucial eyewitness. fill the shooting was done by the army. t the shooting was done by the arm . , ~ army. i interviewed derek wilford in _ army. i interviewed derek wilford in 1992 _ army. i interviewed derek wilford in 1992 on - army. i interviewed derek wilford in 1992 on the - army. i interviewed derek| wilford in 1992 on the 20th anniversary of bloody sunday. t anniversary of bloody sunday. i actually said to my soldiers, you will not get killed. if someone starts shooting at you, behave in a variety of ways, you can run away, which on the whole, soldiers don't, and my battalion whenever run away. you could take cover behind your shield and sit in an area. oryou your shield and sit in an area. or you could do what my battalion were trained to do, to move forward and seek out the enemy. to move forward and seek out the enemy-— the enemy. you look for targets- _ the enemy. you look for targets- i _ the enemy. you look for targets. i went - the enemy. you look for targets. i went from - the enemy. you look for targets. i went from an | targets. i went from an ordinary— targets. i went from an ordinary scoop up, and someone is trying — ordinary scoop up, and someone is trying to— ordinary scoop up, and someone is trying to kill me. that is very— is trying to kill me. that is very much— is trying to kill me. that is very much the attitude you'll get — very much the attitude you'll get he _ very much the attitude you'll get. he doesn't go for cover, he doesn't _ get. he doesn't go for cover, he doesn't crawl on the ground. he looks for targets. started dropping them. he looks for targets. started dr0pping them-— he looks for targets. started dropping them. started dropping them? shooting _ dropping them. started dropping them? shooting them. _ dropping them. started dropping them? shooting them. dennis i dropping them. started dropping them? shooting them. dennis inj them? shooting them. dennis in one of his _ them? shooting them. dennis in one of his friends _ them? shooting them. dennis in one of his friends were _ them? shooting them. dennis in one of his friends were caught i one of his friends were caught in the shooting. as the bullets flew, dennis and his friends took cover around here. his friend said it wasn't safe and he was getting out. just friend said it wasn't safe and he was getting out.- he was getting out. just get awa . he was getting out. just get away- you _ he was getting out. just get away. you could _ he was getting out. just get away. you could see all- he was getting out. just get away. you could see all the| away. you could see all the blood on his face and you could see his teeth and his tongue. he was laying, trying to breathe. his face was starting to turn. fist breathe. his face was starting to turn. �* . to turn. at that time, quite frankly- -- _ to turn. at that time, quite frankly. .. doctor— to turn. at that time, quite frankly... doctor mclean i to turn. at that time, quite l frankly... doctor mclean was to turn. at that time, quite - frankly... doctor mclean was on the march _ frankly... doctor mclean was on the march and _ frankly... doctor mclean was on the march and helped _ frankly... doctor mclean was on the march and helped some - frankly... doctor mclean was on the march and helped some of. the march and helped some of the march and helped some of the victims. the march and helped some of the victims— the victims. the first reaction i the victims. the first reaction i wanted. _ the victims. the first reaction i wanted. i — the victims. the first reaction i wanted, i wish _ the victims. the first reaction iwanted, iwish i _ the victims. the first reaction i wanted, i wish i had - the victims. the first reaction i wanted, i wish i had a - the victims. the first reaction i wanted, i wish i had a rifle. | i wanted, i wish i had a rifle. and — i wanted, i wish i had a rifle. and that _ i wanted, i wish i had a rifle. and that wasjust i wanted, i wish i had a rifle. and that was just a natural reaction _ and that was just a natural reaction. i thought i was going to he — reaction. i thought i was going to be shot. someone had a small radio, _ to be shot. someone had a small radio, and — to be shot. someone had a small radio, and we heard that five people — radio, and we heard that five people had been shot dead. my first reaction was, we've already— first reaction was, we've already put seven in an ambulance, that can't be right. and when— ambulance, that can't be right. and when we get the bodies in the ambulance, we stood around smoking — the ambulance, we stood around smoking cigarettes. we still couldn't— smoking cigarettes. we still couldn't believe what had happened. the next day, the postmortems were held. it was a gruesome — postmortems were held. it was a gruesome day. the stomachs were opened _ gruesome day. the stomachs were opened and the young boys, mostty— opened and the young boys, mostly young boys who had been shot, _ mostly young boys who had been shot. they — mostly young boys who had been shot, they had had peas and potatoes— shot, they had had peas and potatoes for dinner in. it had not been _ potatoes for dinner in. it had not been digested. we also have the same — not been digested. we also have the same thing for dinner before _ the same thing for dinner before we left. and i thought, "that — before we left. and i thought, "that could be me." it's a pure chance — "that could be me." it's a pure chance and _ "that could be me." it's a pure chance and i'm standing here and those boys are not. and that— and those boys are not. and that brought it home to me and probably— that brought it home to me and probably more than anything. the fact— probably more than anything. the fact that we had roughly the same dinner. honestly, i owned the bogside. i occupied it~ _ honestly, i owned the bogside. i occupied it. you _ honestly, i owned the bogside. i occupied it. you keep- honestly, i owned the bogside. i occupied it. you keep using i i occupied it. you keep using the word _ i occupied it. you keep using the word innocent. _ i occupied it. you keep using the word innocent. there - i occupied it. you keep using the word innocent. there is. i occupied it. you keep using i the word innocent. there is no innocence _ the word innocent. there is no innocence it— the word innocent. there is no innocence. if you _ the word innocent. there is no innocence. if you get - the word innocent. there is no innocence. if you get into- the word innocent. there is no innocence. if you get into an l innocence. if you get into an enormous _ innocence. if you get into an enormous crowd _ innocence. if you get into an enormous crowd which - innocence. if you get into an enormous crowd which is - innocence. if you get into an| enormous crowd which is out innocence. if you get into an i enormous crowd which is out to make _ enormous crowd which is out to make mistress. _ enormous crowd which is out to make mistress, you _ enormous crowd which is out to make mistress, you are - enormous crowd which is out to make mistress, you are in- enormous crowd which is out to make mistress, you are in the i make mistress, you are in the first— make mistress, you are in the first instance _ make mistress, you are in the first instance a _ make mistress, you are in the first instance a party - make mistress, you are in the first instance a party to - make mistress, you are in the first instance a party to it. - first instance a party to it. if first instance a party to it. if you _ first instance a party to it. if you are _ first instance a party to it. if you are on _ first instance a party to it. if you are on the - first instance a party to it. if you are on the receiving end, _ if you are on the receiving end. which— if you are on the receiving end, which we _ if you are on the receiving end, which we were, - if you are on the receiving end, which we were, youl if you are on the receiving - end, which we were, you have to assume — end, which we were, you have to assume that— end, which we were, you have to assume that they _ end, which we were, you have to assume that they were _ end, which we were, you have to assume that they were all- end, which we were, you have to assume that they were all to - assume that they were all to make — assume that they were all to make trouble. _ assume that they were all to make trouble.— assume that they were all to make trouble. you don't sign our make trouble. you don't sign your death — make trouble. you don't sign your death warrant _ make trouble. you don't sign your death warrant by - make trouble. you don't sign your death warrant by taking | your death warrant by taking part in a demonstration. some --eole part in a demonstration. some people do- _ part in a demonstration. some people do- the _ part in a demonstration. some people do. the sergeant - part in a demonstration. some. people do. the sergeant wishes to remain anonymous. - people do. the sergeant wishes to remain anonymous. between the blokes, — to remain anonymous. between the blokes, it — to remain anonymous. between the blokes, it was _ to remain anonymous. between the blokes, it was not _ to remain anonymous. between the blokes, it was not elation. i the blokes, it was not elation. at the same time, it was job well done. we had been sent in to do the operation. we were in the middle of doing it. jab the middle of doing it. job well done _ the middle of doing it. job well done with 13 dead? the middle of doing it. job i well done with 13 dead? yes, the middle of doing it. job - well done with 13 dead? yes, a 'ob well well done with 13 dead? yes, a job well done. _ well done with 13 dead? yes, a job well done. if _ well done with 13 dead? yes, a job well done. if someone - well done with 13 dead? yes, a job well done. if someone is i job well done. if someone is firing at you and you kill them, you stopped him killing you. that's a job well done. one of the 13 dead wasjerry mckinney. his wife fight i thought he was going to enjoy a sunny day out —— ida. thought he was going to en'oy a sunny day out -- idafi sunny day out -- ida. making sandwiches _ sunny day out -- ida. making sandwiches and _ sunny day out -- ida. making sandwiches and a _ sunny day out -- ida. making sandwiches and a cup - sunny day out -- ida. making sandwiches and a cup of - sunny day out -- ida. making sandwiches and a cup of tea i sandwiches and a cup of tea before — sandwiches and a cup of tea before he left. the close were brought back to me or— the close were brought back to me or sent back. i can't remember how they can back to me _ remember how they can back to me it _ remember how they can back to me it was _ remember how they can back to me. it was a jumper that i bought— me. it was a jumper that i bought him for christmas, and he'd _ bought him for christmas, and he'd worn— bought him for christmas, and he'd worn it a few times. the holes — he'd worn it a few times. the holes were in hisjacket. on his shirt _ holes were in hisjacket. on his shirt i_ holes were in hisjacket. on his shirt. ijust put my fingers _ his shirt. ijust put my fingers in them. how was he shot? with his hands in the air- — how was he shot? with his hands in the air- in _ how was he shot? with his hands in the air. in order _ how was he shot? with his hands in the air. in order to _ how was he shot? with his hands in the air. in order to save - how was he shot? with his hands in the air. in order to save a - in the air. in order to save a lroy— in the air. in order to save a hoy that _ in the air. in order to save a boy that was already shot. he saw the — boy that was already shot. he saw the soldier and he put his hands — saw the soldier and he put his hands up. _ saw the soldier and he put his hands up, and said, "don't shoot" _ hands up, and said, "don't shoot." and they shot him. might — shoot." and they shot him. might he _ shoot." and they shot him. might he have been carrying a gun? might he have been carrying a run? ., might he have been carrying a gun? tia. how can you be sure? might he have been carrying a gun?- how can you be sure? gun? no. how can you be sure? i knew him, — gun? no. how can you be sure? i knew him, i— gun? no. how can you be sure? i knew him, i was _ gun? no. how can you be sure? i knew him, i was married - gun? no. how can you be sure? i knew him, i was married to - gun? no. how can you be sure? i knew him, i was married to him. | knew him, i was married to him. one _ knew him, i was married to him. one of— knew him, i was married to him. one of the — knew him, i was married to him. one of the powers known as the soldier asked opened fire around here. he was aiming at a rebel barricade right in front ofjack rebel barricade right in front of jack chapman's balcony. rebel barricade right in front ofjack chapman's balcony. taur of jack chapman's balcony. four oune of jack chapman's balcony. four young men _ of jack chapman's balcony. four young men were _ of jack chapman's balcony. four young men were shot _ ofjack chapman's balcony. tm;- young men were shot dead around that barricade. one of them was john kelly's17—year—old brother, michael. john kelly's17-year-old brother, michael. michaelwas hit in the stomach. _ hit in the stomach. forensically, lord saville's inquiry traced the bullet back to soldier f's rifle. he has never been prosecuted. all the evidence appears to be there. the evidence that soldier f gabe — the evidence that soldier f gabe could not be used to undertaking that they wouldn't use any— undertaking that they wouldn't use any evidence given in our imiuiry— use any evidence given in our inguiryto— use any evidence given in our inquiry to incriminate the people _ inquiry to incriminate the people who gave that evidence. we concluded that he shot, knowing _ we concluded that he shot, knowing it was notjustified. we concluded that he had seriously lied about what he was — seriously lied about what he was doing. seriously lied about what he was doing-— was doing. lord saville's conclusion _ was doing. lord saville's conclusion is _ was doing. lord saville's conclusion is damning. i was doing. lord saville's - conclusion is damning. there was one voice amongst the paratroopers i spoke to, the company sergeant major. he wished to remain anonymous. he came close to breaking ranks. how would you describe the military operation that day? chaos. after the initial deployment, - chaos. after the initial deployment, it - chaos. after the initial deployment, it was i chaos. after the initial- deployment, it was chaos. did ou see deployment, it was chaos. did you see any — deployment, it was chaos. you see any gunmen? deployment, it was chaos. did you see any gunmen? no. - deployment, it was chaos. did you see any gunmen? no. do | deployment, it was chaos. did i you see any gunmen? no. do you believe 20 — you see any gunmen? no. do you believe 20 years on, they were done meant?— believe 20 years on, they were done meant? not at all. i think the proof— done meant? not at all. i think the proof could _ done meant? not at all. i think the proof could been _ done meant? not at all. i think the proof could been that - the proof could been that there may have — the proof could been that there may have been _ the proof could been that there may have been or— the proof could been that there may have been or three - may have been or three individuals, _ may have been or three individuals, but- may have been or three individuals, but i- may have been or three individuals, but i feel. may have been or three individuals, but i feel in may have been or three - individuals, but i feel in my own— individuals, but i feel in my own heart— individuals, but i feel in my own heart that _ individuals, but i feel in my own heart that those - individuals, but i feel in myi own heart that those people were — own heart that those people were innocent. _ own heart that those people were innocent. did- own heart that those people were innocent.— were innocent. did bloody sunday achieve _ were innocent. did bloody sunday achieve anything? | sunday achieve anything? nothing at all except tragedy. nothing _ nothing at all except tragedy. nothing i_ nothing at all except tragedy. nothing. i think— nothing at all except tragedy. nothing. ithinkthat- nothing at all except tragedy. nothing. i think that has- nothing at all except tragedy. nothing. i think that has to i nothing at all except tragedy. | nothing. i think that has to be the worst— nothing. i think that has to be the worst thing _ nothing. i think that has to be the worst thing about - nothing. i think that has to be the worst thing about it. - nothing. i think that has to be the worst thing about it. it - the worst thing about it. it was — the worst thing about it. it was a _ the worst thing about it. it was a tragedy _ the worst thing about it. it was a tragedy and - the worst thing about it. it was a tragedy and nothing | the worst thing about it. it - was a tragedy and nothing good came _ was a tragedy and nothing good came out— was a tragedy and nothing good came out of— was a tragedy and nothing good came out of that. _ was a tragedy and nothing good came out of that.— came out of that. ironically, the only _ came out of that. ironically, the only beneficiary - came out of that. ironically, the only beneficiary was - came out of that. ironically, the only beneficiary was the j the only beneficiary was the ira. what did bloody sunday do for the ira? figs ira. what did bloody sunday do for the hut?— for the ira? as far as the provisions _ for the ira? as far as the provisions were _ for the ira? as far as the i provisions were concerned, for the ira? as far as the - provisions were concerned, it served — provisions were concerned, it served as _ provisions were concerned, it served as a very efficient recruiting sergeant. and a lot of people whojoined recruiting sergeant. and a lot of people who joined the recruiting sergeant. and a lot of people whojoined the ira recruiting sergeant. and a lot of people who joined the ira as a result— of people who joined the ira as a result of what was felt to be the tragedy of bloody sunday. one of— the tragedy of bloody sunday. one of them was dennis, who had seen his best friend shot dead in front of his eyes. 5 in front of his eyes. 's decision _ in front of his eyes. 's decision of _ in front of his eyes. �*s decision of the ara... it wasn't a straightforward thing. it broke up our conscience. bloody sunday, for me,... i went down that route. dennis not went down that route. dennis ot 16 went down that route. dennis got 16 years _ went down that route. dennis got 16 years for _ went down that route. dennis got 16 years for trying - went down that route. dennis got 16 years for trying to - got 16 years for trying to murder seven british soldiers. on bloody sunday, he set out with six friends, all of them joining the ira, all went to jail. in the end, in 1998, after years of relentless after yea rs of relentless pressure after years of relentless pressure from victims and their families, prime minister tony blair finally families, prime minister tony blairfinally announced families, prime minister tony blair finally announced from the inquiry to be conducted by lord savile. do you think in the end, you are able to establish the truth of what happened on bloody sunday? t happened on bloody sunday? i very much hope so. the time it took— very much hope so. the time it took was — very much hope so. the time it took was immense. firstly because _ took was immense. firstly because we wanted to do a thoroughjob. secondly because thorough job. secondly because it had _ thorough job. secondly because it had to — thoroughjob. secondly because it had to be fair to everybody - soldiers. _ it had to be fair to everybody — soldiers, families, allthe rest~ — - soldiers, families, all the rest. ., ., ., , , , rest. in nationalist derry, there is _ rest. in nationalist derry, there is no _ rest. in nationalist derry, there is no greater - rest. in nationalist derry, - there is no greater expectation that the report would give deliver the verdict hoped for. in 2010, thousands gathered in the square to listen to the then prime minister addressed then prime minister addressed the house of commons. what the house of commons. what happened _ the house of commons. what happened on _ the house of commons. what happened on bloody - the house of commons. what happened on bloody sunday i the house of commons. target happened on bloody sunday was both unjustified and unjustifiable. the government is ultimately responsible for the conduct of the armed forces. on behalf of the government in the country, i am deeply sorry. government in the country, i am deeply sorry-— deeply sorry. cheering i do admire _ deeply sorry. cheering i do admire david - deeply sorry. cheering i i do admire david cameron deeply sorry. cheering - i do admire david cameron for that — i do admire david cameron for that he — i do admire david cameron for that. he made a very moving speech _ that. he made a very moving speech. and the result was quite — speech. and the result was quite astonishing because you've _ quite astonishing because you�*ve got a nationalist audience cheering a tory prime ministen — audience cheering a tory prime minister. that was something that has— minister. that was something that has never happened before and probably will never happen again! — and probably will never happen again! he did the right thing. it again! he did the right thing. it was — again! he did the right thing. it was david cameron�*s finest moment _ it was david cameron's finest moment-— it was david cameron's finest moment. , ., ., moment. do you accept what lord savile said? _ moment. do you accept what lord savile said? no, _ moment. do you accept what lord savile said? no, i— moment. do you accept what lord savile said? no, i don't. - savile said? no, i don't. because _ savile said? no, i don't. because i— savile said? no, i don't. because i was _ savile said? no, i don't. because i was there. - savile said? no, i don't. j because i was there. we savile said? no, i don't. - because i was there. we thought we were — because i was there. we thought we were under— because i was there. we thought we were under attack— because i was there. we thought we were under attack and - because i was there. we thought we were under attack and we - we were under attack and we remained _ we were under attack and we remained convinced of- we were under attack and we remained convinced of that. i remained convinced of that. until— remained convinced of that. until the _ remained convinced of that. until the end _ remained convinced of that. until the end of— remained convinced of that. until the end of our- remained convinced of that. until the end of our days. i until the end of our days. colonel— until the end of our days. colonel wilford _ until the end of our days. colonel wilford does- until the end of our days. colonel wilford does notl until the end of our days. - colonel wilford does not accept yourfindings. he insists that his men did come underfire, and he says you weren't there. "i was." ., , and he says you weren't there. "iwas." "i was." indeed he has said that. i wasn't _ "i was." indeed he has said that. i wasn't there, - "i was." indeed he has said that. i wasn't there, but i that. i wasn�*t there, but thousands of other people were. and we — thousands of other people were. and we talked alone. has thousands of other people were. and we talked alone.— and we talked alone. has he siml and we talked alone. has he simply got — and we talked alone. has he simply got it _ and we talked alone. has he simply got it wrong? - and we talked alone. has he simply got it wrong? yes, i i simply got it wrong? yes, i believe he _ simply got it wrong? yes, i believe he has. _ simply got it wrong? yes, i believe he has. he - simply got it wrong? yes, i believe he has. he was i simply got it wrong? yes, i | believe he has. he was very loyal— believe he has. he was very loyal to— believe he has. he was very loyal to his soldiers. he was extremely popular. and he obviously came to the conclusion that he couldn�*t let his soldiers down, but i don�*t agree — his soldiers down, but i don�*t agree with his feel on what happened. 50 agree with his feel on what happened-— agree with his feel on what hauened. ii, ., , ~ happened. 50 years on, derek wilford is _ happened. 50 years on, derek wilford is as, _ happened. 50 years on, derek wilford is 88, and _ happened. 50 years on, derek wilford is 88, and now - happened. 50 years on, derek wilford is 88, and now suffersj wilford is 88, and now suffers from parkinson's disease. what is bloody sunday done to you? destroyed my world. and it destroyed the world like families of ida mckinney. t families of ida mckinney. i just couldn�*t understand when he knew — just couldn�*t understand when he knew they were so happy and we had — he knew they were so happy and we had so... it wasn�*t months or years — we had so... it wasn�*t months or years after. i realised it wasn't _ or years after. i realised it wasn�*t god�*s doing at all. it was — wasn�*t god�*s doing at all. it wasjust— wasn�*t god�*s doing at all. it wasjust the soldier. wasn't god's doing at all. it was just the soldier.- wasn't god's doing at all. it was just the soldier. was 'ust the soldier. what is the wasjust the soldier. what is the legacy — wasjust the soldier. what is the legacy of _ wasjust the soldier. what is the legacy of bloody - was just the soldier. what is| the legacy of bloody sunday? was just the soldier. what is i the legacy of bloody sunday? it the legacy of bloody sunday? tt was a catastrophe for northern ireland. quite apart from being dreadfulfor ireland. quite apart from being dreadful for the ireland. quite apart from being dreadfulfor the people, for the bereaved and those wounded. the plans that the british government were making before bloody sunday, to try and negotiate a peaceful settlement, were completely destroyed. and put back any chance of resolution of the troubles by decades.- chance of resolution of the troubles by decades. next week, der will troubles by decades. next week, derry will remember _ troubles by decades. next week, derry will remember the - troubles by decades. next week, derry will remember the 50th i derry will remember the 50th anniversary of bloody sunday. i will remember it, too. the normal pattern of january temperatures was turned upside down on saturday, 12 degrees in northern scotland, for in southern england. a little bit of sunshine across parts of north—east england, most places have another cloudy day for part two of the weekend. —— four in england. despite the cloud, a lot of dry weather around, high—pressure close by, exerting unsettling influence on our weather. underneath the high pressure and around, all of this cloud coming in. weather front approaching northern scotland, and that it does so it will strengthen the does mean e—mail start after a mild day, a hint of blue through parts of wales and england, later went any chance of frost with clear spells. —— a mild start. mist and fog patches to building, but will be more or less in the clear on sunday. a lot of cloud around, a few sunny spells, northeast scotland, parts of wales and england, perhaps eastern counties of northern ireland most favoured. maybe a few brighter breaks here and there. a breezier day, especially into the northwest of scotland. it'll be another mild day, though temperature is not as high, lowertemperature though temperature is not as high, lower temperature is around four or5 high, lower temperature is around four or 5 degrees. overnight and into monday, rain turning heavier is that weather front moves into northern scotland in the wind will be easing, it'll be dry elsewhere. a lot of cloud around. in any breaks, a touch of frost possible. weatherfront breaks, a touch of frost possible. weather front will take some outbreaks of rain so the further south through parts of northern and western scotland. any rain to register in, and of that, there may be sunny spells around. south of that, good deal of cloud. temperature is around 6—9 c. by monday evening, patchy rain. tuesday looking me dry with rain moving into scotland on wednesday, and sweeping south. what that weather front does do is sweep away a lot of the cloud around at the moment. not much rain moving south, but brighter skies following that system across much of the uk with the breeze on thursday. this is bbc news. our top stories. britain accuses russia of planning to install a pro—kremlin leader in ukraine, as fears of an invasion grow. foreign aid is being distributed in tonga, with over 80% of the population affected by last weekend's volcanic eruption and tsunami. tonga's recovery from this disaster will be long—term, and i think we need to ensure that we keep the momentum up. two years to the day since china forced the city of wuhan and its ten million citizens into lockdown, we have a special report on how beijing's containing the virus. there does appear to be widespread support for the government policy on covid because you get this, it looks quite normal, but nobody knows the answer to the big question, how long will it go on for?