hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are daisy mcandrew, who is nbc�*s "royal commentator and digbyjones who is the former trade minister. tomorrow's front pages, starting with... the metro leads with the story on all of the front pages this evening — that the duke of york has been effectively �*throne out' of the royal family — following yesterday's decision by a us judge to reject an appeal to have his sexual assault case dropped. the assault case dropped. sun has a same headline, th must the sun has a same headline, they must be talking to each other. as the queen strips the duke of his various military titles he's now facing that prospect of that american trial is a private citizen. the telegraph says that queen has frozen the duke out of the royal family and describes a 45 minute meeting held with the duke and windsor where he was informed of her decision. the guardian quotes a royal commentator who says the duke has been well and truly checked under the royal boss. and the queen consulted the prince of wales and the duke of cambridge before the removal of his titles. the i says the cream wants a distance and return to public life for andrew. as well as covering that royal story the times reports that it's been told sue gray's inquiry into lockdown parties in downing street will find no evidence of criminalisty but could censure boris johnson for a lack ofjudgment. the financial times reports that russian negotiators are in talks with united states and nato have failed in this threat of military action against the ukraine still remains a possibility. to galleries discuss all those stories. let's begin. daisy, why don't you kick us off. the sun thrown out, stripped of hrh and military titles, favourite son now a private citizen. i suppose one of the questions, we were just referring to it they are, whether or not this was in any way by mutual agreement or whether this is a decision that's been forced on andrew by the queen in association with prince charles and prince william. ~ , ., ., ~ with prince charles and prince william. ~ ., ~ ., , william. well, if you talk to people close to prince _ william. well, if you talk to people close to prince andrew _ william. well, if you talk to people close to prince andrew you - william. well, if you talk to people close to prince andrew you won't i william. well, if you talk to people | close to prince andrew you won't be surprised to know that they are keen to say that it was a mutual decision and it was the best thing to do. i think most of us are taking out with a pinch of salt because we know that the duke of york has been saying over and over again that he will come back, he will clear his name, he'll be welcome back into the fold when he has done that. that is clearly not the case now. no matter which way you cut this up this must�*ve been a devastating day for prince andrew and also for his mother at the queen. we know from many, many people over the years saying that they have a particularly close bond, the queen and prince andrew. it must�*ve been very, very tough for her to have to do this. i think there will be a sense of relief that in some ways perhaps this does protect the royal family from what is to come. and we know what is to come is going to be nasty. whether it's the settlement, which is a potential outcome between prince andrew and his accuser or whether it's the full blown day in court or more likely weeks and weeks in court which will be very nasty. digby, i suppose this is really a humiliation for andrew. the papers are all talking about him as the queens favourites on. we never really known if there is actual evidence for saying that he is her favourite son. but she doesn't seem to of treated him with any kid gloves over theirs. if those versions of the story are correct for example, the telegraph saying that he was summoned to windsor castle for a 45 minute meeting with his mother. howdy read all of this? good evening, ben, good evening daisx _ good evening, ben, good evening daisx i_ good evening, ben, good evening daisy. i would of thought this was a combination of quite a long time of getting _ combination of quite a long time of getting here. this would not of com is a complete surprise to the duke of york _ is a complete surprise to the duke of york it — is a complete surprise to the duke of york. it will have been... i don't — of york. it will have been... i don't know_ of york. it will have been... i don't know more than you but everybody said that he was her favourite — everybody said that he was her favourite son. the point is, and i think— favourite son. the point is, and i think the — favourite son. the point is, and i think the express have covered this into a _ think the express have covered this into a headline i think extremely well where they put queen cast andrew— well where they put queen cast andrew adrift... for the sake of the monarchx — andrew adrift... for the sake of the monarchy. and one thing we all know about her— monarchy. and one thing we all know about her majesty is that she will put nothing ahead, perhaps with the exception _ put nothing ahead, perhaps with the exception of her majesties has been, she wiii— exception of her majesties has been, she will put— exception of her majesties has been, she will put nothing ahead of serving — she will put nothing ahead of serving her country and making sure that the _ serving her country and making sure that the country is okay. and the monarchy— that the country is okay. and the monarchy comes before everything. i think the _ monarchy comes before everything. i think the ruling by the judge. this issue _ think the ruling by the judge. this issue to _ think the ruling by the judge. this issue to the point where the duke of york is— issue to the point where the duke of york is good have to put... go either— york is good have to put... go either on _ york is good have to put... go either on a _ york is good have to put... go either on a resume call or into print— either on a resume call or into print on— either on a resume call or into print on both, i don't think you go to the _ print on both, i don't think you go to the states, he doesn't have to come _ to the states, he doesn't have to come it's— to the states, he doesn't have to come it's not criminal proceedings. but it's— come it's not criminal proceedings. but it's getting to the point which this is— but it's getting to the point which this is now— but it's getting to the point which this is now the duke of york very, very. _ this is now the duke of york very, very. very— this is now the duke of york very, very, very serious. in the queen would _ very, very serious. in the queen would not — very, very serious. in the queen would not allow even her so—called favourite _ would not allow even her so—called favourite son to get in the way of making _ favourite son to get in the way of making sure the monarchy is fine. and that _ making sure the monarchy is fine. and that meant creating that division _ and that meant creating that division between the royal family in itsjob_ division between the royal family in itsjob and — division between the royal family in itsjob and its division between the royal family in its job and its constitutional role, i its job and its constitutional role, i don't _ its job and its constitutional role, i don't mean as a private family, i'm i don't mean as a private family, i'm sure — i don't mean as a private family, i'm sure alice of private family he will still— i'm sure alice of private family he will still be — i'm sure alice of private family he will still be around. but in anything public, anything constitutional, anything legal he has gone, basically. i think the queen— has gone, basically. i think the queen witi— has gone, basically. i think the queen will have a conversation where it wiii— queen will have a conversation where it will open— queen will have a conversation where it will open a — queen will have a conversation where it will open a conversation, it will not of— it will open a conversation, it will not of been — it will open a conversation, it will not of been a monologue but i'm pretty— not of been a monologue but i'm pretty certain that we all knew before — pretty certain that we all knew before it — pretty certain that we all knew before it started where it was going to end _ before it started where it was going to end ”p — before it started where it was going to end up. lastly, i would make the point _ to end up. lastly, i would make the point that— to end up. lastly, i would make the point that he, i hope today he finally — point that he, i hope today he finally with some humility and with some _ finally with some humility and with some emotional intelligence understands how serious this is. that— understands how serious this is. that doesn't mean he did anything, i don't _ that doesn't mean he did anything, i don't know — that doesn't mean he did anything, i don't know. it doesn't mean he didn't — don't know. it doesn't mean he didn't but _ don't know. it doesn't mean he didn't. but it does mean is that there _ didn't. but it does mean is that there are — didn't. but it does mean is that there are very, very, very, very powerful— there are very, very, very, very powerful people, very important rules— powerful people, very important rules and — powerful people, very important rules and the court of public opinion— rules and the court of public opinion in— rules and the court of public opinion in different countries who are basically saying, "you better start— are basically saying, "you better start taking this seriously, duke of york because this is notjust not going away but you are completely in the crosshairs. i don't think he's _ the crosshairs. i don't think he's got — the crosshairs. i don't think he's got that up here, i don't think he's got that up here, i don't think he connection. i really think he did beiieve _ he connection. i really think he did beiieve it— he connection. i really think he did believe it right this out. i think he believes it happened to other people — he believes it happened to other people. that's unfair, other people. i people. that's unfair, other people. i hope _ people. that's unfair, other people. i hope the _ people. that's unfair, other people. i hope the day her majesties made it clear to _ i hope the day her majesties made it clear to him — i hope the day her majesties made it clear to him that this is now him and he's — clear to him that this is now him and he's got to affect some modesty and he's got to affect some modesty and humility. and he's got to affect some modesty and humility-— and humility. daisy, let's look at the guardian. _ and humility. daisy, let's look at the guardian. fairly _ and humility. daisy, let's look at. the guardian. fairly straightforward coverage, clean strips and are of military and royal roles with a picture of him in naval uniforms and forces parade. he parade. he does see himself very much as a military man. of course he was a veteran of the falklands war. that sort of adds to the humiliation, i guess. it to the humiliation, i guess. it definitely does. this isn't a faux passion for the military, he did serve, he did see active service in the 40th anniversary of the falklands is coming up. they would've been a lot of ceremonies that he would've been a central part of and he will be very dismayed about that. that's i—sided. there is about that. that's i—sided. there is a personal side, about that. that's i—sided. there is a personalside, i do about that. that's i—sided. there is a personal side, i do feel very sorry for his daughters as you would any children of somebody who's going through these kind of accusations in this kind of a public humiliation. i think no matter what you think of him, all of us will probably feel very sorry for them, wonder how they're going to be coping. lots of other questions that we as yet don't know the answers to for that particular live off? at the moment he gets an allowance. i give my teenagers and allowance. his mother gives him an allowance for being a working royal and my understanding is it's about 250 thousand, £100,000 a year. it's a quarter of1 million miles a year. if he loses that and it would make sense that he would lose that if he is not doing the work he might not get the allowance of the salary. what's he going to live off? we know he has a rather grand lifestyle. how's he going to pay the fees that are accruing by the day? if he does do a settlement, that could be multi—million pound settlement if his accuser agrees to that. so far it doesn't look like she would agree on a settlement but perhaps further down the line she might. so lots and lots of questions about things like his finances, is that sale of the ski chalet that he's supposed to be trying to flog off to pay to raise funds for this court case, is not going to go through? although the royalfamily has done with again to exclude themselves, protect themselves from this, the story is still going to ramble on and get bigger and bigger as we approach that court case date. let's move onto another story that's going to ramble on. parties at 10 downing street. actually, the telegraph, they've got a story about more revelations. but i suppose maybe they think parties in downing street was so common it's not huge news because it's not their lead story. they saying downey street staff drank alcohol to the early hours of the morning at two leaving events before funeral. some played music in the basement and dance as a brother senior number ten adviser acted as a dj. that's a telegraph version. what do you make of where boris stands now? given all these various allegations that sucre is looking into. i various allegations that sucre is looking into— various allegations that sucre is looking into-— various allegations that sucre is lookin: into. ., ., ., looking into. i would have thought that the tin _ looking into. i would have thought that the tin hat _ looking into. i would have thought that the tin hat is not _ looking into. i would have thought that the tin hat is not going - looking into. i would have thought that the tin hat is not going to - looking into. i would have thought that the tin hat is not going to be | that the tin hat is not going to be sufficiently strong. he is taking cover — sufficiently strong. he is taking cover anv— sufficiently strong. he is taking cover. any more revelations of much the same. _ cover. any more revelations of much the same, the ba degree of social henri _ the same, the ba degree of social henri from — the same, the ba degree of social henri from the public because the damage _ henri from the public because the damage is— henri from the public because the damage is done. do henri from the public because the damage is done.— damage is done. do you think he should resign? _ damage is done. do you think he should resign? precisely- damage is done. do you think he should resign? precisely at - damage is done. do you think he should resign? precisely at this i should resign? precisely at this moment, should resign? precisely at this moment. no — should resign? precisely at this moment. no l _ should resign? precisely at this moment, no i don't. _ should resign? precisely at this moment, no i don't. for- should resign? precisely at this moment, no i don't. for two i should resign? precisely at this - moment, no i don't. for two reasons, sucre' _ moment, no i don't. for two reasons, sucre, when— moment, no i don't. for two reasons, sucre, when i_ moment, no i don't. for two reasons, sucre, when i was a minister she actually— sucre, when i was a minister she actually did... every minister —— sucre _ actually did... every minister —— sucre i— actually did... every minister —— sucre i was _ actually did... every minister —— sucre. i was getting were cleared but it's— sucre. i was getting were cleared but it's talk to or basically the ethics — but it's talk to or basically the ethics committee and by the civil service _ ethics committee and by the civil service at— ethics committee and by the civil service at the start. and then when they leave — service at the start. and then when they leave they also check on what you're _ they leave they also check on what you're doing. in other words they checked — you're doing. in other words they checked the ethics appointment and leaving _ checked the ethics appointment and leaving. and sue grey it was mine. and i_ leaving. and sue grey it was mine. and i was— leaving. and sue grey it was mine. and i was in— leaving. and sue grey it was mine. and i was in 2008. so she's leaving. and sue grey it was mine. and i was in 2008.50 she's been around _ and i was in 2008.50 she's been around for— and i was in 2008.50 she's been around for a _ and i was in 2008.50 she's been around for a long, long time. and she has a around for a long, long time. fific she has a reputation for around for a long, long time. fific she has a reputation for being very thorough. she she has a reputation for being very thorou:h. ,, ., , she has a reputation for being very thorou:h. ,, .,, , she has a reputation for being very thorou:h. ,, , , ,, thorough. she was very impressive and i was terrified _ thorough. she was very impressive and i was terrified of _ thorough. she was very impressive and i was terrified of her. - thorough. she was very impressive and i was terrified of her. do - thorough. she was very impressive and i was terrified of her. do you l and i was terrified of her. do you think he is _ and i was terrified of her. do you think he is it — and i was terrified of her. do you think he is it terrified _ and i was terrified of her. do you think he is it terrified of - and i was terrified of her. do you | think he is it terrified of her now? he is not the sort of person, this is a shame, _ he is not the sort of person, this is a shame, is not the sort of person _ is a shame, is not the sort of person. you're such a loose with not 'ust person. you're such a loose with not just the _ person. you're such a loose with not just the truth — person. you're such a loose with not just the truth but what other people do, authority and the whole constitutional side, he lives his own path— constitutional side, he lives his own path and its extremely, the sun in the _ own path and its extremely, the sun in the middle and everything around. i in the middle and everything around. iwould've _ in the middle and everything around. i would've thought sue grey will find but — i would've thought sue grey will find but the telegraph said today, 0k, find but the telegraph said today, 0k. i'm _ find but the telegraph said today, ok, i'm sure she wouldn't use this word _ ok, i'm sure she wouldn't use this word but— ok, i'm sure she wouldn't use this word but put it on that pile of bear and a look— word but put it on that pile of bear and a look at it in a minute. he should — and a look at it in a minute. he should not— and a look at it in a minute. he should not resign now. but the way i would've _ should not resign now. but the way i would've thought this would happen, it's a question of when not air. idols— it's a question of when not air. idols thought it was a question of needing a — idols thought it was a question of needing a tory party conference in first week— needing a tory party conference in first week of october oh or september to be something of a coronation cover somewhat new. idols thought _ coronation cover somewhat new. idols thought the _ coronation cover somewhat new. idols thought the pivotal moment is the local elections on the fourth and 5th of— local elections on the fourth and 5th of may. if the tories get drug completely and badly in places they shouldn't— completely and badly in places they shouldn't be then the men in grey suits _ shouldn't be then the men in grey suits in _ shouldn't be then the men in grey suits in the — shouldn't be then the men in grey suits in the tory parties will come calling _ suits in the tory parties will come calling it — suits in the tory parties will come calling. it was the most successful political _ calling. it was the most successful political party in democratic capitalism in the world is the bridge — capitalism in the world is the bridge conservative party. the reason — bridge conservative party. the reason they are so —— british. the reason _ reason they are so —— british. the reason they— reason they are so —— british. the reason they are so —— british. the reason they are so —— british. the reason they are so successful as they— reason they are so successful as they are — reason they are so successful as they are utterly useless. this is a party— they are utterly useless. this is a party that— they are utterly useless. this is a party that got rid of churchill and thatcher — party that got rid of churchill and thatcher. �* , ., ., ., ., party that got rid of churchill and thatcher. �*, ., ., ., thatcher. let's not go too far back in history. — thatcher. let's not go too far back in history. i _ thatcher. let's not go too far back in history, i take _ thatcher. let's not go too far back in history, i take your— thatcher. let's not go too far back in history, i take your point. - thatcher. let's not go too far back in history, i take your point. when i'm t in: in history, i take your point. when l'm trying to _ in history, i take your point. when l'm trying to say — in history, i take your point. when i'm trying to say is, _ in history, i take your point. when i'm trying to say is, they _ in history, i take your point. when i'm trying to say is, they won't - i'm trying to say is, they won't hang _ i'm trying to say is, they won't hang about. i'm trying to say is, they won't hang about-— hang about. let's look at the economist. _ hang about. let's look at the economist. they've - hang about. let's look at the economist. they've got - hang about. let's look at the economist. they've got a - hang about. let's look at the l economist. they've got a very visceral piece about borisjohnson. they say nothing in mrjohnson's public or professional life suggest the burden of conscience will trouble him enough to step down. he looks cynical and heartless, his electoral liability, britain chose a party animal for its leader now comes the hangover. they're not mincing their words, the economists. they are not mincing their words in the not the only publication to be saying such strong things. funny enough, i also picked out that exact quote that you just read out. burden of conscious doesn't trouble him. even the consensus within the conservative party is starting to factor. i think this is