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Transcripts For BBCNEWS The Papers 20240709



england clung on for a tense draw on the final day of the fourth test in sydney to end australia's hopes of an ashes 5—0 whitewash. needing to bat out the final day, england didn't make it easy — they rarely do — but with just one wicket in hand they got themselves over the line as patrick gearey reports. the relentless march of the australians — on day five, they hunt. ten wickets to get. all too often, haseeb hameed goes first. that's got him. yet there was a strange calm about sydney, and about zak crawley. under pressure for his place, but batting for a bubble, untroubled. he made 77 before it popped. that's out. three down, but look up. it was getting darker. the rain took seven overs out of the match. having been helped by the clouds, england needed their stars. the injured ben stokes batting in such pain that every run stung — and joe root, their captain, but half an hourfrom tea... 0h, he's got an edge on that. that was big. root knew it, england had to forget it. after all, they were soon in the final session, with stokes still there, wounded side, willing heart. butjust at the wrong moment he was betrayed by a touch. oh, there he goes. a different kind of hurt, because now the door was open and pat cummins was charging through it. mark wood fell just afterjos buttler. down to the sharp end. 13 balls left, two wickets left... 0h, he's got him. jack leach became one of them. australia sensed blood. england, perhaps, deja vu. last ball to jimmy anderson to decide the test. he's done it, he survived it. and breeze. this is a draw, not a victory, but england waved no white flag, so there will be no whitewash. patrick gearey, bbc news. no, they won't, and there will be a fifth and final ashes test, but that starts on friday. next to football. it upset. newcastle were beaten by league 1 cambridge. kieran trippier made his first appearance for the premier league side but it wasn't enough to save the match as his new team were humbled in a 1—0 defeat, joe ironside providing the goal to send cambridge into the fourth round. and their travelling fans wild in the stands we always knew, going to the game, we have nothing to lose. we only can win, and just we needed to come here and be the best version of ourselves, and that's what we did today, you know, we scored, we kept a clean sheet, which is really important. coming here, not many teams can do that. we always had that belief, and i'm really happy, look at how many supporters have come here to support us. we sold out. it's incredible. what a way to start the year. and the shocks continued as kidderminster, the lowest ranked team left in the cup, pulled off a stunning comeback to beat championship side reading 2—1. the national league side had to fight through an incredible 12 minutes of injury time and you can see how much the victory means to them. there was more non—league success as boreham wood beat league one's afc wimbledon 2—0. tyrone marsh was on the scoresheet as the national league side qualify for the fourth round for the first time in their history. so who would they like to face next? i don't really care, i have to be honest with you. wealdstone comes to town on tuesday. i know it sounds really, really cliched, but as a manager you can't switch off. as much as i want to enjoy the planning and the organisational side of things, we have a mid—week against wealdstone. it's our bread—and—butter. we need to make sure we put a performance on. obviously i will have one eye on the draw. there are nine more third round games today including liverpool v shrewsbury which kicks off at 2 o clock at anfield jurgen klopp hopes to be back in the dugout for the match after having covid. liverpool's squad has been badly hit by coronavirus and were forced to shutdown first—team training earlier this week. in rugby union, there was a thrilling end in the match between harlequins and exeter in the premiership. 1a—man exeter were winning right up until the final 2 minutes. andre esterhuizen�*s try leveling things up just leaving the ice—cool marcus smith to kick the conversion and hand his side the win by 1a points to 12. elsewhere there were wins for gloucester and northampton. edinburgh put five tries past cardiff to go top of the united rugby championship. it finished 34—10 in the scottish capital — ramiro moyano with the pick of the scores after a flowing move. elsewhere there were wins for glasgow warriors and munster. and in the women's premier 155, gloucester—hartpury increased the pressure on the top four with a bonus point win over leaders bristol. ellie underwood crashed over with her second try of the match to seal a 36—14 victory. gloucester are now up to fifth in the table. elsewhere second place exeter beat sale sharks. that's all the sport for now. now it's time for the papers. here is katy balls from the conservative—supporting let's get into some of the stories on the front pages then here is katy balls from the conservative—supporting weekly political magazine, the spectator and james rampton, feature writer at the i newspaper. the observer leads with comments from the former chairman of the uk's vaccine task force, who says we must end mass vaccinations for covid and treat the virus like we do flu. the sunday times also looks at a post—pandemic britain, reporting that free lateral flow tests will come to an end as the country is told to live with covid. but the government say that won't be happening in the short term. according to the sunday telegraph liz truss, the new brexit negotiator, is insisting that the uk will overhaul the post—brexit agreement over northern ireland if she cannot reach a solution with the eu. another cabinet minister writes in the sunday express — also pictures of the duchess of cambridge looking gorgeous in a red dress. another cabinet minister writes in the sunday express — this time the home secretary priti patel, warning the house of lords not to water down new police powers in tackling knife crime. and finally the sunday mirror claims it's crisis time on albert square as danny dyer quits eastenders. so, let's start with the observer, then. james comedy want to take us through the front page splash? yes. through the front page splash? yes, hello. the observer _ suggesting that we should treat covid as an endemic rather than a pandemic, saying we should now endless jabs. this is quoting experts who feel we have to come to terms with the new normal. that we cannot live with constant max fascination programmes, and perhaps thatis fascination programmes, and perhaps that is an interesting idea psychologically if we learn to live with it, will you be so terrified as i fixed with it, will you be so terrified as ifixed myself, often we with it, will you be so terrified as i fixed myself, often we are cowed by this presence of this ghastly monster lurking outside the door, and stay cowering inside our houses. if we are told to tell ourselves this is something we have to learn to live with, perhaps we will have more bravery to go outside. my concern is, though, these are suggestions coming where we are sadly passed the milestone of the hundred and 50,000 are from covid, and is it really appropriate on that day to be talking about how to exit this crisis? if i was sadly one of the family members of someone who died i might be quite to be offended by that. also we have the schools in the uni is coming back this week. there is bound to be another spike with the omicron variant then, so i think this might be a bit premature, but long—term it might help us to see we have to live with rather than be terrified by it.— be terrified by it. what do you think? i be terrified by it. what do you think? | think _ be terrified by it. what do you think? i think it's _ be terrified by it. what do you think? i think it's interesting i be terrified by it. what do you i think? i think it's interesting that the comments _ think? i think it's interesting that the comments come _ think? i think it's interesting that the comments come from - think? i think it's interesting that the comments come from the - think? i think it's interesting that - the comments come from the former chairman_ the comments come from the former chairman of— the comments come from the former chairman of the vaccine casts like task force. — chairman of the vaccine casts like task force, because in a way you would _ task force, because in a way you would think_ task force, because in a way you would think someone who is leaving the vaccine — would think someone who is leaving the vaccine task force to be talking at the _ the vaccine task force to be talking at the vaccines as long—term way out _ at the vaccines as long—term way out you — at the vaccines as long—term way out. you hear ministers talking about _ out. you hear ministers talking about vaccinations for years to comet _ about vaccinations for years to come. and _ about vaccinations for years to come, and the fact you have someone who has— come, and the fact you have someone who has worked in securing vaccine saying _ who has worked in securing vaccine saying that — who has worked in securing vaccine saying that you need to move away from _ saying that you need to move away from this— saying that you need to move away from this is— saying that you need to move away from this is interesting, because they come — from this is interesting, because they come with the expertise, and they come with the expertise, and the argument they are making is as covid _ the argument they are making is as covid becomes more close to a cold for lots _ covid becomes more close to a cold for lots of _ covid becomes more close to a cold for lots of people in the population, the focus needs to be more _ population, the focus needs to be more in _ population, the focus needs to be more in the vulnerable and developing vaccines to really target that, and _ developing vaccines to really target that, and i— developing vaccines to really target that, and i think you can see that if covid _ that, and i think you can see that if covid is — that, and i think you can see that if covid is going to move to endemic, _ if covid is going to move to endemic, perhaps you do need to tackle _ endemic, perhaps you do need to tackle it _ endemic, perhaps you do need to tackle it in — endemic, perhaps you do need to tackle it in a different way, but as has been — tackle it in a different way, but as has been touched on i don't think this is— has been touched on i don't think this is an — has been touched on i don't think this is an overnight thing, we are still in _ this is an overnight thing, we are still in a — this is an overnight thing, we are still in a pandemic.— this is an overnight thing, we are still in a pandemic. these sunday times, still in a pandemic. these sunday times. the _ still in a pandemic. these sunday times, the end _ still in a pandemic. these sunday times, the end of _ still in a pandemic. these sunday times, the end of free _ still in a pandemic. these sunday times, the end of free lateral - still in a pandemic. these sunday| times, the end of free lateral flow tester is the country is told to live with covid. nadhim zahawi who is now the education secretary and was the vaccine secretary saying this is not going to happen in the short term, but at some point you could see that it will be the end of free lateral flow test, won't it? yeah, ithink... free lateral flow test, won't it? yeah, i think...— free lateral flow test, won't it? yeah, ithink... yes, oh, sorry... when you — yeah, ithink... yes, oh, sorry... when you look— yeah, ithink... yes, oh, sorry... when you look at _ yeah, ithink... yes, oh, sorry... when you look at other _ yeah, ithink... yes, oh, sorry... | when you look at other countries, the uk _ when you look at other countries, the uk is — when you look at other countries, the uk is quite rare in offering iaterat— the uk is quite rare in offering lateral flow tester everyone free at the point _ lateral flow tester everyone free at the point of use. in countries like america — the point of use. in countries like america you need to purchase them, and in _ america you need to purchase them, and in some — america you need to purchase them, and in some european countries, as well, _ and in some european countries, as well, and _ and in some european countries, as well, and i— and in some european countries, as well, and i think therefore there are questions about how sustainable this is— are questions about how sustainable this is going to be in keeping it running — this is going to be in keeping it running i_ this is going to be in keeping it running. i think also the fact that you have — running. i think also the fact that you have ministers downplaying that it's going _ you have ministers downplaying that it's going to happen imminently points— it's going to happen imminently points to — it's going to happen imminently points to the fact that over christmas we already depended on the taterat— christmas we already depended on the lateral flow test because covid is everywhere, particularly in london over christmas, and to be able to go out and _ over christmas, and to be able to go out and do _ over christmas, and to be able to go out and do anything, everyone was checking _ out and do anything, everyone was checking it. — out and do anything, everyone was checking it, so i don't think you'll be out _ checking it, so i don't think you'll be out a — checking it, so i don't think you'll be out a move away given the high number— be out a move away given the high number of— be out a move away given the high number of case numbers right now. you can— number of case numbers right now. you can see — number of case numbers right now. you can see when we get to the spring _ you can see when we get to the spring perhaps it is something you cut back— spring perhaps it is something you cut back on. spring perhaps it is something you cut back om— cut back on. front page of the sunday telegraph, _ cut back on. front page of the sunday telegraph, liz - cut back on. front page of the sunday telegraph, liz truss, l cut back on. front page of the i sunday telegraph, liz truss, the foreign secretary, now the brexit negotiator after the resignation of another person, i will use article 16 if the eu won't bend. i would like you to unpick what article 16 is, how it is relevant to the northern ireland protocol and how the law of the milen protocol is been causing problems for britain. thanks for that one!— been causing problems for britain. thanks for that one! sorry! we're 'ust thanks for that one! sorry! we're just talking _ thanks for that one! sorry! we're just talking 200 _ thanks for that one! sorry! we're just talking 200 years _ thanks for that one! sorry! we're just talking 200 years of - thanks for that one! sorry! we're just talking 200 years of history or more! the difficulty that the eu in the uk are having at the moment is focused on european board ofjustice will stop we are saying we do not want that court to have jurisdiction over northern ireland, there are also issues a return to the hard border between the republic and northern ireland which of course could cause huge damage to the stability and peace in that country. liz truss is, let's be honest, someone is making a bid for tory party leadership. that's to be mike borisjohnson has had a wretched couple of months, so that is underlying this story. her story is that she might invoke article 16 collapse negotiations with the eu plays very well with tory backbenchers. i sometimes think the tories are prolonging the war with the eu because it plays so well with the eu because it plays so well with the hardline supporters. you think what will be the point of it if brexiters ever resolve? this is one issue where a liz truss, a former romania, i should add, no she will have traction. she knows she will get full support from tory backbenchers, and that may be says he's cynically be one reason why she is sabre rattling so loudly. she has a meeting with the eu negotiator on thursday, in advance of that meeting, she says she may once have been a remainer, shh but she is making course that will cause cheers on the backbenchers. can making course that will cause cheers on the backbenchers.— making course that will cause cheers on the backbenchers. can you explain that to our viewers, _ on the backbenchers. can you explain that to our viewers, why _ on the backbenchers. can you explain that to our viewers, why it's - on the backbenchers. can you explain that to our viewers, why it's such - on the backbenchers. can you explain that to our viewers, why it's such a i that to our viewers, why it's such a big deal if the brexit negotiator says they will trigger it? filth. says they will trigger it? oh, sorry--- sorry. _ says they will trigger it? oh, sorry... sorry, i— says they will trigger it? oh, sorry... sorry, iwas- says they will trigger it? oh, sorry... sorry, i was saying l says they will trigger it? oh, i sorry... sorry, i was saying that the kt. sorry... sorry, i was saying that the kt- so _ sorry... sorry, i was saying that the kt. so sorry. _ sorry... sorry, i was saying that the kt. so sorry. i'm _ sorry... sorry, i was saying that the kt. so sorry. i'm glad, - sorry... sorry, i was saying that i the kt. so sorry. i'm glad, katie, ou're the kt. so sorry. i'm glad, katie, you're welcome! _ the kt. so sorry. i'm glad, katie, you're welcome! it's _ the kt. so sorry. i'm glad, katie, you're welcome! it's been - the kt. so sorry. i'm glad, katie, i you're welcome! it's been triggered before, you're welcome! it's been triggered before. and — you're welcome! it's been triggered before, and ultimately— you're welcome! it's been triggered before, and ultimately as _ you're welcome! it's been triggered before, and ultimately as a - before, and ultimately as a mechanism by which the northern line protocol, _ mechanism by which the northern line protocol, protocol, they've gone back— protocol, protocol, they've gone back on— protocol, protocol, they've gone back on it. — protocol, protocol, they've gone back on it, because ultimately it relates— back on it, because ultimately it relates to — back on it, because ultimately it relates to peace in northern ireland, _ relates to peace in northern ireland, and it was seen as the wrong — ireland, and it was seen as the wrong mechanism when you are talking about vaccine and import — exports. when _ about vaccine and import — exports. when it— about vaccine and import — exports. when it removed this time? the question— when it removed this time? the question is, if you activate article 16, the _ question is, if you activate article 16, the eu — question is, if you activate article 16, the eu would retaliate. we could end up— 16, the eu would retaliate. we could end up in— 16, the eu would retaliate. we could end up in a _ 16, the eu would retaliate. we could end up in a trade war. we've seen the eu_ end up in a trade war. we've seen the eu tear— end up in a trade war. we've seen the eu tearup end up in a trade war. we've seen the eu tear up the entire agreement we have _ the eu tear up the entire agreement we have a _ the eu tear up the entire agreement we have a brexit, so it is high—stakes going into this, so i think— high—stakes going into this, so i think it — high—stakes going into this, so i think it would be an explosive intervention free decide to do it. it intervention free decide to do it. it was _ intervention free decide to do it. it was pointing out that liz truss does _ it was pointing out that liz truss does not — it was pointing out that liz truss does not change government policy here, _ does not change government policy here, this _ does not change government policy here, this is exactly what david frost's — here, this is exactly what david frost's position, her predecessor, was _ frost's position, her predecessor, was sonte — frost's position, her predecessor, was. some thought she might water it down, _ was. some thought she might water it down, partly because she did back remain many years ago in the eu referendum, but ultimately this is what _ referendum, but ultimately this is what the — referendum, but ultimately this is what the government has been saying for some _ what the government has been saying for some time caught. the question is, are _ for some time caught. the question is, are they— for some time caught. the question is, are they bluffing? is this part of upping — is, are they bluffing? is this part of upping the ante, or will they really— of upping the ante, or will they really go — of upping the ante, or will they really go ahead with it? if they can't _ really go ahead with it? if they can't secure changes to the agreement? let's ta ke let's take this with katy, the mail on sunday have the first negotiator, lord frost. what's his intervention? be negotiator, lord frost. what's his intervention?— negotiator, lord frost. what's his intervention? �* ., ., , ., intervention? be more conservative. it hasn't intervention? be more conservative. it hasn't gone _ intervention? be more conservative. it hasn't gone away _ intervention? be more conservative. it hasn't gone away since _ intervention? be more conservative. it hasn't gone away since before - it hasn't gone away since before christmas. it'sjust it hasn't gone away since before christmas. it's just the fact that mps have been home during the christmas period, new restrictions have not been brought in, things have not been brought in, things have come so for borisjohnson, but this interview is a reminder, i think, of the difficulties boris johnson faces from his own side. it's notjust about covid restrictions. david frost is citing various parts of the agenda, advisors that borisjohnson has around him and policies, suggesting that the prime minister who is a long—term ally has ultimately lost his way and needs to return to more conservative approach to tories are going to win a fifth term. qm. conservative approach to tories are going to win a fifth term.— going to win a fifth term. ok, let's move to the _ going to win a fifth term. ok, let's move to the sunday _ going to win a fifth term. ok, let's move to the sunday express. - the headline on page four, tory mps and push below change over perverse iury and push below change over perverse jury verdict on statue, that is the fact that people who are charged with criminal damage, essentially, were found not guilty after pulling the statue of edward colston down, quite a few conservative mps do not like that verdict. that quite a few conservative mps do not like that verdict.— like that verdict. that is true, there even — like that verdict. that is true, there even been _ like that verdict. that is true, there even been a _ like that verdict. that is true, j there even been a suggestion like that verdict. that is true, - there even been a suggestion that some tories have been delighted by the verdict because it enables them to perpetuate this continual culture war against the woke prograde, as they would call it. that plays very well with tory supporters. the sense that what people want to steal every part of our history, as they would view it, and turn it into some idea of whiteness, and speaking very much as an imagined tory here, this supposed common—sense group of tourism dog this perverse. well, what's the point of having an independentjudiciary all additions independent judiciary all additions and interfere? independentjudiciary all additions and interfere? suella braverman, the attorney general, has even indicated they will take this to the court of appeal. to me that seems like an egregious example of political interference in what is supposed to be an independentjudiciary. i'm not going to say the next step is to radical dictatorship, but the point of having, in english law, a separate independentjudiciary, which we had for hundreds years since magna carta, is that the judges make the decisions, not the politicians, and my alarm about this is the politicians are trying to interfere with the judicial decision, not going through parliament, trying to tinker with the decision that's been made, and i would say that is quite alarming. yeah. i've recently donejury service, and i've never done it before, and notwithstanding the delays and jurors not turning up and lost documents, i was so impressed with what i perceive to be the finest of the system of having, you know, 11 people who didn't know each other, normal men and women, turning up other, normal men and women, turning up and listen to the evidence and deciding on the basis of the evidence was presented before them. it was such an insight, i thought. katy, do you think it is un—conservative to potentially interfere with the criminaljustice system in this way? i interfere with the criminal 'ustice system in this way?* system in this way? i think there are a few things _ system in this way? i think there are a few things going _ system in this way? i think there are a few things going on - system in this way? i think there are a few things going on here. i system in this way? i think there i are a few things going on here. the reason _ are a few things going on here. the reason you — are a few things going on here. the reason you have seen lots of tory politicians — reason you have seen lots of tory politicians come out and say they are questioning this verdict is, if you look— are questioning this verdict is, if you look at— are questioning this verdict is, if you look at what the accused were accused _ you look at what the accused were accused of. — you look at what the accused were accused of, it was criminal damage, and they— accused of, it was criminal damage, and they were admitting to almost the act, _ and they were admitting to almost the act, so — and they were admitting to almost the act, so therefore some are asking, — the act, so therefore some are asking, well, if the thing you are accused of— asking, well, if the thing you are accused of doing you said you are have _ accused of doing you said you are have done, — accused of doing you said you are have done, that's where they're questioning it in terms of the judgment. if you look at the history ofjury_ judgment. if you look at the history ofjuryjudgments, and jury of jury judgments, and jury verdicts. _ of jury judgments, and jury verdicts, often ofjuryjudgments, and jury verdicts, often you do get surprising verdicts. you do get things— surprising verdicts. you do get things that people disagree with, and this— things that people disagree with, and this is different to a judge verdict~ — and this is different to a judge verdict~ it— and this is different to a judge verdict. it doesn't set a precedent in the _ verdict. it doesn't set a precedent in the way— verdict. it doesn't set a precedent in the way that something from a judge _ in the way that something from a judge would do, and therefore i do think— judge would do, and therefore i do think that — judge would do, and therefore i do think that the conservative party needs to — think that the conservative party needs to be careful not to look as though— needs to be careful not to look as though they are meddling in a politically motivated way. both sides _ politically motivated way. both sides are — politically motivated way. both sides are obviously saying that reactions— sides are obviously saying that reactions are politically motivated, but i reactions are politically motivated, but i think— reactions are politically motivated, but i think it's a difficult line to tread, — but i think it's a difficult line to tread, and _ but i think it's a difficult line to tread, and there is risk that one 'ury tread, and there is risk that one jury verdicts, many people have no sympathy— jury verdicts, many people have no sympathy when it comes to the statue. — sympathy when it comes to the statue, lots of people think it should — statue, lots of people think it should have been taken down in the first place. — should have been taken down in the first place, one verdict is not what you need — first place, one verdict is not what you need to — first place, one verdict is not what you need to rewrite the laws of the attorney— you need to rewrite the laws of the attorney general and, so i think there _ attorney general and, so i think there is— attorney general and, so i think there is a — attorney general and, so i think there is a wrecked of overreacting. ithink— there is a wrecked of overreacting. i think it's — there is a wrecked of overreacting. i think it's worth pointing out people have spoken up in defence of the jury— people have spoken up in defence of the jury verdict and supporter, so it's not— the jury verdict and supporter, so it's not like — the jury verdict and supporter, so it's not like every single conservative takes issue here. george — conservative takes issue here. george osborne, former chancellor. let me ask you about this, katy, it's an app that has been trialled for women, presumably men as well, in the wake of the murder of sarah everard, and is being trialled by a couple of forces are a couple of divisions in the met, tell us about it what you think of it. yeah, so this is an app that would allow— yeah, so this is an app that would allow people to track the friends' journey— allow people to track the friends' journey home, and it's about women's safety _ journey home, and it's about women's safety it's _ journey home, and it's about women's safety. it's interesting, ithink there — safety. it's interesting, ithink there are _ safety. it's interesting, ithink there are a report a few months ago by the _ there are a report a few months ago by the idea — there are a report a few months ago by the idea of an app, lots of people — by the idea of an app, lots of people given the circumstances of that tragic murder were very uncomfortable with almost a police being _ uncomfortable with almost a police being involved in looking at how you -et being involved in looking at how you get home, _ being involved in looking at how you get home, given that the person who murdered _ get home, given that the person who murdered sarah everard was a policeman. they didn't like the idea of that _ policeman. they didn't like the idea of that i_ policeman. they didn't like the idea of that. i think what is good about the app. _ of that. i think what is good about the app. as— of that. i think what is good about the app, as it is reported here, is actually— the app, as it is reported here, is actually you — the app, as it is reported here, is actually you could in theory choose to people — actually you could in theory choose to people who had been motivated if you went _ to people who had been motivated if you went off the route, so if you went _ you went off the route, so if you went off — you went off the route, so if you went off the red going home you didn't— went off the red going home you didn't go— went off the red going home you didn't go that way, you could alert your trusted people, friends and family— your trusted people, friends and family that you put down to be alerted, — family that you put down to be alerted, and i think i would address some _ alerted, and i think i would address some of— alerted, and i think i would address some of the concerns with the ideam — some of the concerns with the idea... ., ,., some of the concerns with the idea... ., �*, idea... on that point, let's say i was a friend. — idea... on that point, let's say i was a friend, suddenly - idea... on that point, let's say i was a friend, suddenly i - idea... on that point, let's say i was a friend, suddenly i was - was a friend, suddenly i was alerted, what would i do? would i ring the police? would ifine they would be likely to go out of my friend just been off fruit for five minutes? if friend just been off fruit for five minutes? , , ., minutes? if they were 'ust a neighbour fl minutes? if they were 'ust a neighbour who i minutes? if they were 'ust a neighbour who could h minutes? if they were just a neighbour who could maybe| minutes? if they were just a - neighbour who could maybe come by and check, _ neighbour who could maybe come by and check, but if they were just being _ and check, but if they were just being notified by home or giving a call, it— being notified by home or giving a call, it could make someone feel safer is— call, it could make someone feel safer isjust walking call, it could make someone feel safer is just walking home. call, it could make someone feel safer isjust walking home. there is not a _ safer isjust walking home. there is not a perfect solution to the problem _ not a perfect solution to the problem that this could address, but if it helps— problem that this could address, but if it helps people feel a bit safer or get— if it helps people feel a bit safer or get that phone call when they think— or get that phone call when they think they're being followed by someone and maybe that's because someone _ someone and maybe that's because someone off, maybe that could be of positive _ someone off, maybe that could be of positive part of trying to fix some of the _ positive part of trying to fix some of the problems. i'm going to ask you post what you think of the photographs of the duchess of cambridge, they are all over social media, released because she is a0 years old. the news that british newspapers are very confirmatory.— british newspapers are very confirmato . ~ ., ., ~ confirmatory. what do you think, james? i confirmatory. what do you think, james? l have — confirmatory. what do you think, james? i have to _ confirmatory. what do you think, james? i have to tread _ confirmatory. what do you think, james? i have to tread very - james? i have to tread very carefully here is an old man, but i would only echo what you said earlier, she does look stunning, i think on a wider level, she has become a very popular member of the royalfamily and this become a very popular member of the royal family and this is underscored that, neverfractures in the royal family of the last year, harry and megan meghan when a will,, and its accessibility of a sort of maturity and on a so absent from some members of the royalfamily, i'm not a monarchist but i find that really reassuring, to see the continuity from the queen to prince charles than to kate and william, i think that's really good for the country because they are really important symbols of stability and duty in this country, which is such an important thing.— this country, which is such an important thing. compared to the ublici important thing. compared to the publicity around _ important thing. compared to the publicity around prince _ important thing. compared to the publicity around prince andrew, l important thing. compared to the publicity around prince andrew, i | publicity around prince andrew, i think this kind of publicity is obviously welcome for the royal family. katy, what think?- family. katy, what think? yeah, i auree, i family. katy, what think? yeah, i agree. i think _ family. katy, what think? yeah, i agree, i think the _ family. katy, what think? yeah, i agree, i think the duchess - family. katy, what think? yeah, i agree, i think the duchess of - agree, i think the duchess of cambridge it clearly develops in her role, _ cambridge it clearly develops in her role, looks— cambridge it clearly develops in her role, looks very confident now, at ease _ role, looks very confident now, at ease. obviously, it will be a future gueen, _ ease. obviously, it will be a future queen, and — ease. obviously, it will be a future queen, and i— ease. obviously, it will be a future queen, and i think you have a situation _ queen, and i think you have a situation where you had the royal family— situation where you had the royal family have had a difficult year, but it's— family have had a difficult year, but it's even more testing for some of the _ but it's even more testing for some of the things that have been outlined, prince andrew, and the fact you — outlined, prince andrew, and the fact you have members of the royal family— fact you have members of the royal family who — fact you have members of the royal family who have real treatment very high approval ratings who do the 'ob, high approval ratings who do the job, going about and representing, meeting _ job, going about and representing, meeting people, and doing that for the right— meeting people, and doing that for the right reasons is something that is going _ the right reasons is something that is going to — the right reasons is something that is going to be good for the monarchy as they— is going to be good for the monarchy as they face — is going to be good for the monarchy as they face lots of problems coming up. as they face lots of problems coming u . _ ., ~' as they face lots of problems coming u n . ., " , ., as they face lots of problems coming up. thank you both very much. thank ou, up. thank you both very much. thank you. katy. — up. thank you both very much. thank you. katy. thank _ up. thank you both very much. thank you. katy. thank you _ up. thank you both very much. thank you, katy, thank you james. - up. thank you both very much. thank you, katy, thank you james. thank i you, katy, thank you james. thank you, katy, thank you james. thank you for giving us your time this morning. that's it for the paper this morning — headlines coming up at the top of the hour. goodbye for now. hello. compared to yesterday, it's been a much drier and brighter day so far for most of you. bit of a chilly start, admittedly, but lots of sunshine across southern and eastern areas at present. there are a few showers, though, particularly in the west. they've become more widespread across parts of southern scotland and northern ireland, and through the afternoon they will push into northern england, increasing the cloud here. showers are mainly of rain, but a little bit of hail, sleet or a little snow in some spots. the north of it will see sunshine continue in northern scotland. southern scotland should brighten up a little bit. much of wales, the midlands, east anglia and the south—east dry with sunny spells, any showers very few and far between, but the channel islands down towards the far south—west of england, devon, cornwall and south—west wales, will see cloud increase. milder air trying to push in, but with it some rain or drizzle, and that will continue through this evening and overnight, pushing into western areas. showers in northern england push through the east midlands, east anglia and fade. cold middle part of the night across parts of eastern uk, maybe —6 in eastern scotland for a time, and there is still a little bit of frost for one or two into the morning, but a chilly temperatures rise through the second half of the night, and by the start of tomorrow, 8—10 degrees in the west, that's because you will be in this little slice of milder air sandwiched between these two weather fronts. the first one just bringing increased amounts of cloud, patchy drizzle, the second one bringing some heavier bursts of rain in northern scotland and strengthening winds. that will touch gale force later in the day. hazy sunshine, though, will continue through monday across some eastern areas, but you can just see how the cloud thickens up. there's some light rain or drizzle on it pushing its way eastwards, lying somewhere from yorkshire through the midlands towards the isle of wight during the afternoon. west of that we will see extensive mist, low cloud around some of the coast, but 12 or 13 degrees. before that where the front arrives, 8 or 9 in the east. that weather front then pushes away southwards as we go through into tuesday. milder start in the south, the cloud, occasional rain or drizzle, particularly to the south—east during the day. much brighter conditions further north, with sunny spells. a few showers continue in scotland, strong to gale force winds, as well. temperatures drop relative to monday, but there's still a degree or two above what we would normally expect in this stage of the year, and they will climb a little bit further for some as we go through this coming week. through wednesday in the second half of the week, high pressure builds in across the south. closer to that area of high pressure, so, southern parts of england and wales, this is where we could see some overnight frost, fog. that could linger through the day, so, for one or two temperatures, mid—single figures at best during the second half of the week. further north, with more breeze, some breaks in the cloud, up to around 10 or 11 celsius. this is bbc news broadcasting in the uk and around the globe. i'm victoria derbyshire. here are your top stories: england's education secretary becomes the first uk cabinet minister to back reducing covid isolation down from seven days to five. novak djokovic prepares for a court hearing — after saying he has a vaccine exemption to enter australia — because he had covid last month. russian troops arrive in kazakhstan as order is restored following six days of violence. the afghan baby separated from his parents in kabul during the chaos of the us withdrawal — is reunited with relatives. the duchess of cambridge at a0 — three new portraits will go on display in english towns where kate has lived to celebrate her birthday. and it's a draw for england and australia in the fourth ashes test.

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england clung on for a tense draw on the final day of the fourth test in sydney to end australia's hopes of an ashes 5—0 whitewash. needing to bat out the final day, england didn't make it easy — they rarely do — but with just one wicket in hand they got themselves over the line as patrick gearey reports. the relentless march of the australians — on day five, they hunt. ten wickets to get. all too often, haseeb hameed goes first. that's got him. yet there was a strange calm about sydney, and about zak crawley. under pressure for his place, but batting for a bubble, untroubled. he made 77 before it popped. that's out. three down, but look up. it was getting darker. the rain took seven overs out of the match. having been helped by the clouds, england needed their stars. the injured ben stokes batting in such pain that every run stung — and joe root, their captain, but half an hourfrom tea... 0h, he's got an edge on that. that was big. root knew it, england had to forget it. after all, they were soon in the final session, with stokes still there, wounded side, willing heart. butjust at the wrong moment he was betrayed by a touch. oh, there he goes. a different kind of hurt, because now the door was open and pat cummins was charging through it. mark wood fell just afterjos buttler. down to the sharp end. 13 balls left, two wickets left... 0h, he's got him. jack leach became one of them. australia sensed blood. england, perhaps, deja vu. last ball to jimmy anderson to decide the test. he's done it, he survived it. and breeze. this is a draw, not a victory, but england waved no white flag, so there will be no whitewash. patrick gearey, bbc news. no, they won't, and there will be a fifth and final ashes test, but that starts on friday. next to football. it upset. newcastle were beaten by league 1 cambridge. kieran trippier made his first appearance for the premier league side but it wasn't enough to save the match as his new team were humbled in a 1—0 defeat, joe ironside providing the goal to send cambridge into the fourth round. and their travelling fans wild in the stands we always knew, going to the game, we have nothing to lose. we only can win, and just we needed to come here and be the best version of ourselves, and that's what we did today, you know, we scored, we kept a clean sheet, which is really important. coming here, not many teams can do that. we always had that belief, and i'm really happy, look at how many supporters have come here to support us. we sold out. it's incredible. what a way to start the year. and the shocks continued as kidderminster, the lowest ranked team left in the cup, pulled off a stunning comeback to beat championship side reading 2—1. the national league side had to fight through an incredible 12 minutes of injury time and you can see how much the victory means to them. there was more non—league success as boreham wood beat league one's afc wimbledon 2—0. tyrone marsh was on the scoresheet as the national league side qualify for the fourth round for the first time in their history. so who would they like to face next? i don't really care, i have to be honest with you. wealdstone comes to town on tuesday. i know it sounds really, really cliched, but as a manager you can't switch off. as much as i want to enjoy the planning and the organisational side of things, we have a mid—week against wealdstone. it's our bread—and—butter. we need to make sure we put a performance on. obviously i will have one eye on the draw. there are nine more third round games today including liverpool v shrewsbury which kicks off at 2 o clock at anfield jurgen klopp hopes to be back in the dugout for the match after having covid. liverpool's squad has been badly hit by coronavirus and were forced to shutdown first—team training earlier this week. in rugby union, there was a thrilling end in the match between harlequins and exeter in the premiership. 1a—man exeter were winning right up until the final 2 minutes. andre esterhuizen�*s try leveling things up just leaving the ice—cool marcus smith to kick the conversion and hand his side the win by 1a points to 12. elsewhere there were wins for gloucester and northampton. edinburgh put five tries past cardiff to go top of the united rugby championship. it finished 34—10 in the scottish capital — ramiro moyano with the pick of the scores after a flowing move. elsewhere there were wins for glasgow warriors and munster. and in the women's premier 155, gloucester—hartpury increased the pressure on the top four with a bonus point win over leaders bristol. ellie underwood crashed over with her second try of the match to seal a 36—14 victory. gloucester are now up to fifth in the table. elsewhere second place exeter beat sale sharks. that's all the sport for now. now it's time for the papers. here is katy balls from the conservative—supporting let's get into some of the stories on the front pages then here is katy balls from the conservative—supporting weekly political magazine, the spectator and james rampton, feature writer at the i newspaper. the observer leads with comments from the former chairman of the uk's vaccine task force, who says we must end mass vaccinations for covid and treat the virus like we do flu. the sunday times also looks at a post—pandemic britain, reporting that free lateral flow tests will come to an end as the country is told to live with covid. but the government say that won't be happening in the short term. according to the sunday telegraph liz truss, the new brexit negotiator, is insisting that the uk will overhaul the post—brexit agreement over northern ireland if she cannot reach a solution with the eu. another cabinet minister writes in the sunday express — also pictures of the duchess of cambridge looking gorgeous in a red dress. another cabinet minister writes in the sunday express — this time the home secretary priti patel, warning the house of lords not to water down new police powers in tackling knife crime. and finally the sunday mirror claims it's crisis time on albert square as danny dyer quits eastenders. so, let's start with the observer, then. james comedy want to take us through the front page splash? yes. through the front page splash? yes, hello. the observer _ suggesting that we should treat covid as an endemic rather than a pandemic, saying we should now endless jabs. this is quoting experts who feel we have to come to terms with the new normal. that we cannot live with constant max fascination programmes, and perhaps thatis fascination programmes, and perhaps that is an interesting idea psychologically if we learn to live with it, will you be so terrified as i fixed with it, will you be so terrified as ifixed myself, often we with it, will you be so terrified as i fixed myself, often we are cowed by this presence of this ghastly monster lurking outside the door, and stay cowering inside our houses. if we are told to tell ourselves this is something we have to learn to live with, perhaps we will have more bravery to go outside. my concern is, though, these are suggestions coming where we are sadly passed the milestone of the hundred and 50,000 are from covid, and is it really appropriate on that day to be talking about how to exit this crisis? if i was sadly one of the family members of someone who died i might be quite to be offended by that. also we have the schools in the uni is coming back this week. there is bound to be another spike with the omicron variant then, so i think this might be a bit premature, but long—term it might help us to see we have to live with rather than be terrified by it.— be terrified by it. what do you think? i be terrified by it. what do you think? | think _ be terrified by it. what do you think? i think it's _ be terrified by it. what do you think? i think it's interesting i be terrified by it. what do you i think? i think it's interesting that the comments _ think? i think it's interesting that the comments come _ think? i think it's interesting that the comments come from - think? i think it's interesting that the comments come from the - think? i think it's interesting that - the comments come from the former chairman_ the comments come from the former chairman of— the comments come from the former chairman of the vaccine casts like task force. — chairman of the vaccine casts like task force, because in a way you would _ task force, because in a way you would think_ task force, because in a way you would think someone who is leaving the vaccine — would think someone who is leaving the vaccine task force to be talking at the _ the vaccine task force to be talking at the vaccines as long—term way out _ at the vaccines as long—term way out you — at the vaccines as long—term way out. you hear ministers talking about _ out. you hear ministers talking about vaccinations for years to comet _ about vaccinations for years to come. and _ about vaccinations for years to come, and the fact you have someone who has— come, and the fact you have someone who has worked in securing vaccine saying _ who has worked in securing vaccine saying that — who has worked in securing vaccine saying that you need to move away from _ saying that you need to move away from this— saying that you need to move away from this is— saying that you need to move away from this is interesting, because they come — from this is interesting, because they come with the expertise, and they come with the expertise, and the argument they are making is as covid _ the argument they are making is as covid becomes more close to a cold for lots _ covid becomes more close to a cold for lots of _ covid becomes more close to a cold for lots of people in the population, the focus needs to be more _ population, the focus needs to be more in _ population, the focus needs to be more in the vulnerable and developing vaccines to really target that, and _ developing vaccines to really target that, and i— developing vaccines to really target that, and i think you can see that if covid _ that, and i think you can see that if covid is — that, and i think you can see that if covid is going to move to endemic, _ if covid is going to move to endemic, perhaps you do need to tackle _ endemic, perhaps you do need to tackle it _ endemic, perhaps you do need to tackle it in — endemic, perhaps you do need to tackle it in a different way, but as has been — tackle it in a different way, but as has been touched on i don't think this is— has been touched on i don't think this is an — has been touched on i don't think this is an overnight thing, we are still in _ this is an overnight thing, we are still in a — this is an overnight thing, we are still in a pandemic.— this is an overnight thing, we are still in a pandemic. these sunday times, still in a pandemic. these sunday times. the _ still in a pandemic. these sunday times, the end _ still in a pandemic. these sunday times, the end of _ still in a pandemic. these sunday times, the end of free _ still in a pandemic. these sunday times, the end of free lateral - still in a pandemic. these sunday| times, the end of free lateral flow tester is the country is told to live with covid. nadhim zahawi who is now the education secretary and was the vaccine secretary saying this is not going to happen in the short term, but at some point you could see that it will be the end of free lateral flow test, won't it? yeah, ithink... free lateral flow test, won't it? yeah, i think...— free lateral flow test, won't it? yeah, ithink... yes, oh, sorry... when you — yeah, ithink... yes, oh, sorry... when you look— yeah, ithink... yes, oh, sorry... when you look at _ yeah, ithink... yes, oh, sorry... when you look at other _ yeah, ithink... yes, oh, sorry... | when you look at other countries, the uk _ when you look at other countries, the uk is — when you look at other countries, the uk is quite rare in offering iaterat— the uk is quite rare in offering lateral flow tester everyone free at the point _ lateral flow tester everyone free at the point of use. in countries like america — the point of use. in countries like america you need to purchase them, and in _ america you need to purchase them, and in some — america you need to purchase them, and in some european countries, as well, _ and in some european countries, as well, and _ and in some european countries, as well, and i— and in some european countries, as well, and i think therefore there are questions about how sustainable this is— are questions about how sustainable this is going to be in keeping it running — this is going to be in keeping it running i_ this is going to be in keeping it running. i think also the fact that you have — running. i think also the fact that you have ministers downplaying that it's going _ you have ministers downplaying that it's going to happen imminently points— it's going to happen imminently points to — it's going to happen imminently points to the fact that over christmas we already depended on the taterat— christmas we already depended on the lateral flow test because covid is everywhere, particularly in london over christmas, and to be able to go out and _ over christmas, and to be able to go out and do _ over christmas, and to be able to go out and do anything, everyone was checking _ out and do anything, everyone was checking it. — out and do anything, everyone was checking it, so i don't think you'll be out _ checking it, so i don't think you'll be out a — checking it, so i don't think you'll be out a move away given the high number— be out a move away given the high number of— be out a move away given the high number of case numbers right now. you can— number of case numbers right now. you can see — number of case numbers right now. you can see when we get to the spring _ you can see when we get to the spring perhaps it is something you cut back— spring perhaps it is something you cut back on. spring perhaps it is something you cut back om— cut back on. front page of the sunday telegraph, _ cut back on. front page of the sunday telegraph, liz - cut back on. front page of the sunday telegraph, liz truss, l cut back on. front page of the i sunday telegraph, liz truss, the foreign secretary, now the brexit negotiator after the resignation of another person, i will use article 16 if the eu won't bend. i would like you to unpick what article 16 is, how it is relevant to the northern ireland protocol and how the law of the milen protocol is been causing problems for britain. thanks for that one!— been causing problems for britain. thanks for that one! sorry! we're 'ust thanks for that one! sorry! we're just talking _ thanks for that one! sorry! we're just talking 200 _ thanks for that one! sorry! we're just talking 200 years _ thanks for that one! sorry! we're just talking 200 years of - thanks for that one! sorry! we're just talking 200 years of history or more! the difficulty that the eu in the uk are having at the moment is focused on european board ofjustice will stop we are saying we do not want that court to have jurisdiction over northern ireland, there are also issues a return to the hard border between the republic and northern ireland which of course could cause huge damage to the stability and peace in that country. liz truss is, let's be honest, someone is making a bid for tory party leadership. that's to be mike borisjohnson has had a wretched couple of months, so that is underlying this story. her story is that she might invoke article 16 collapse negotiations with the eu plays very well with tory backbenchers. i sometimes think the tories are prolonging the war with the eu because it plays so well with the eu because it plays so well with the hardline supporters. you think what will be the point of it if brexiters ever resolve? this is one issue where a liz truss, a former romania, i should add, no she will have traction. she knows she will get full support from tory backbenchers, and that may be says he's cynically be one reason why she is sabre rattling so loudly. she has a meeting with the eu negotiator on thursday, in advance of that meeting, she says she may once have been a remainer, shh but she is making course that will cause cheers on the backbenchers. can making course that will cause cheers on the backbenchers.— making course that will cause cheers on the backbenchers. can you explain that to our viewers, _ on the backbenchers. can you explain that to our viewers, why _ on the backbenchers. can you explain that to our viewers, why it's - on the backbenchers. can you explain that to our viewers, why it's such - on the backbenchers. can you explain that to our viewers, why it's such a i that to our viewers, why it's such a big deal if the brexit negotiator says they will trigger it? filth. says they will trigger it? oh, sorry--- sorry. _ says they will trigger it? oh, sorry... sorry, i— says they will trigger it? oh, sorry... sorry, iwas- says they will trigger it? oh, sorry... sorry, i was saying l says they will trigger it? oh, i sorry... sorry, i was saying that the kt. sorry... sorry, i was saying that the kt- so _ sorry... sorry, i was saying that the kt. so sorry. _ sorry... sorry, i was saying that the kt. so sorry. i'm _ sorry... sorry, i was saying that the kt. so sorry. i'm glad, - sorry... sorry, i was saying that i the kt. so sorry. i'm glad, katie, ou're the kt. so sorry. i'm glad, katie, you're welcome! _ the kt. so sorry. i'm glad, katie, you're welcome! it's _ the kt. so sorry. i'm glad, katie, you're welcome! it's been - the kt. so sorry. i'm glad, katie, i you're welcome! it's been triggered before, you're welcome! it's been triggered before. and — you're welcome! it's been triggered before, and ultimately— you're welcome! it's been triggered before, and ultimately as _ you're welcome! it's been triggered before, and ultimately as a - before, and ultimately as a mechanism by which the northern line protocol, _ mechanism by which the northern line protocol, protocol, they've gone back— protocol, protocol, they've gone back on— protocol, protocol, they've gone back on it. — protocol, protocol, they've gone back on it, because ultimately it relates— back on it, because ultimately it relates to — back on it, because ultimately it relates to peace in northern ireland, _ relates to peace in northern ireland, and it was seen as the wrong — ireland, and it was seen as the wrong mechanism when you are talking about vaccine and import — exports. when _ about vaccine and import — exports. when it— about vaccine and import — exports. when it removed this time? the question— when it removed this time? the question is, if you activate article 16, the _ question is, if you activate article 16, the eu — question is, if you activate article 16, the eu would retaliate. we could end up— 16, the eu would retaliate. we could end up in— 16, the eu would retaliate. we could end up in a _ 16, the eu would retaliate. we could end up in a trade war. we've seen the eu_ end up in a trade war. we've seen the eu tear— end up in a trade war. we've seen the eu tearup end up in a trade war. we've seen the eu tear up the entire agreement we have _ the eu tear up the entire agreement we have a _ the eu tear up the entire agreement we have a brexit, so it is high—stakes going into this, so i think— high—stakes going into this, so i think it — high—stakes going into this, so i think it would be an explosive intervention free decide to do it. it intervention free decide to do it. it was _ intervention free decide to do it. it was pointing out that liz truss does _ it was pointing out that liz truss does not — it was pointing out that liz truss does not change government policy here, _ does not change government policy here, this _ does not change government policy here, this is exactly what david frost's — here, this is exactly what david frost's position, her predecessor, was _ frost's position, her predecessor, was sonte — frost's position, her predecessor, was. some thought she might water it down, _ was. some thought she might water it down, partly because she did back remain many years ago in the eu referendum, but ultimately this is what _ referendum, but ultimately this is what the — referendum, but ultimately this is what the government has been saying for some _ what the government has been saying for some time caught. the question is, are _ for some time caught. the question is, are they— for some time caught. the question is, are they bluffing? is this part of upping — is, are they bluffing? is this part of upping the ante, or will they really— of upping the ante, or will they really go — of upping the ante, or will they really go ahead with it? if they can't _ really go ahead with it? if they can't secure changes to the agreement? let's ta ke let's take this with katy, the mail on sunday have the first negotiator, lord frost. what's his intervention? be negotiator, lord frost. what's his intervention?— negotiator, lord frost. what's his intervention? �* ., ., , ., intervention? be more conservative. it hasn't intervention? be more conservative. it hasn't gone _ intervention? be more conservative. it hasn't gone away _ intervention? be more conservative. it hasn't gone away since _ intervention? be more conservative. it hasn't gone away since before - it hasn't gone away since before christmas. it'sjust it hasn't gone away since before christmas. it's just the fact that mps have been home during the christmas period, new restrictions have not been brought in, things have not been brought in, things have come so for borisjohnson, but this interview is a reminder, i think, of the difficulties boris johnson faces from his own side. it's notjust about covid restrictions. david frost is citing various parts of the agenda, advisors that borisjohnson has around him and policies, suggesting that the prime minister who is a long—term ally has ultimately lost his way and needs to return to more conservative approach to tories are going to win a fifth term. qm. conservative approach to tories are going to win a fifth term.— going to win a fifth term. ok, let's move to the _ going to win a fifth term. ok, let's move to the sunday _ going to win a fifth term. ok, let's move to the sunday express. - the headline on page four, tory mps and push below change over perverse iury and push below change over perverse jury verdict on statue, that is the fact that people who are charged with criminal damage, essentially, were found not guilty after pulling the statue of edward colston down, quite a few conservative mps do not like that verdict. that quite a few conservative mps do not like that verdict.— like that verdict. that is true, there even — like that verdict. that is true, there even been _ like that verdict. that is true, there even been a _ like that verdict. that is true, j there even been a suggestion like that verdict. that is true, - there even been a suggestion that some tories have been delighted by the verdict because it enables them to perpetuate this continual culture war against the woke prograde, as they would call it. that plays very well with tory supporters. the sense that what people want to steal every part of our history, as they would view it, and turn it into some idea of whiteness, and speaking very much as an imagined tory here, this supposed common—sense group of tourism dog this perverse. well, what's the point of having an independentjudiciary all additions independent judiciary all additions and interfere? independentjudiciary all additions and interfere? suella braverman, the attorney general, has even indicated they will take this to the court of appeal. to me that seems like an egregious example of political interference in what is supposed to be an independentjudiciary. i'm not going to say the next step is to radical dictatorship, but the point of having, in english law, a separate independentjudiciary, which we had for hundreds years since magna carta, is that the judges make the decisions, not the politicians, and my alarm about this is the politicians are trying to interfere with the judicial decision, not going through parliament, trying to tinker with the decision that's been made, and i would say that is quite alarming. yeah. i've recently donejury service, and i've never done it before, and notwithstanding the delays and jurors not turning up and lost documents, i was so impressed with what i perceive to be the finest of the system of having, you know, 11 people who didn't know each other, normal men and women, turning up other, normal men and women, turning up and listen to the evidence and deciding on the basis of the evidence was presented before them. it was such an insight, i thought. katy, do you think it is un—conservative to potentially interfere with the criminaljustice system in this way? i interfere with the criminal 'ustice system in this way?* system in this way? i think there are a few things _ system in this way? i think there are a few things going _ system in this way? i think there are a few things going on - system in this way? i think there are a few things going on here. i system in this way? i think there i are a few things going on here. the reason _ are a few things going on here. the reason you — are a few things going on here. the reason you have seen lots of tory politicians — reason you have seen lots of tory politicians come out and say they are questioning this verdict is, if you look— are questioning this verdict is, if you look at— are questioning this verdict is, if you look at what the accused were accused _ you look at what the accused were accused of. — you look at what the accused were accused of, it was criminal damage, and they— accused of, it was criminal damage, and they were admitting to almost the act, _ and they were admitting to almost the act, so — and they were admitting to almost the act, so therefore some are asking, — the act, so therefore some are asking, well, if the thing you are accused of— asking, well, if the thing you are accused of doing you said you are have _ accused of doing you said you are have done, — accused of doing you said you are have done, that's where they're questioning it in terms of the judgment. if you look at the history ofjury_ judgment. if you look at the history ofjuryjudgments, and jury of jury judgments, and jury verdicts. _ of jury judgments, and jury verdicts, often ofjuryjudgments, and jury verdicts, often you do get surprising verdicts. you do get things— surprising verdicts. you do get things that people disagree with, and this— things that people disagree with, and this is different to a judge verdict~ — and this is different to a judge verdict~ it— and this is different to a judge verdict. it doesn't set a precedent in the _ verdict. it doesn't set a precedent in the way— verdict. it doesn't set a precedent in the way that something from a judge _ in the way that something from a judge would do, and therefore i do think— judge would do, and therefore i do think that — judge would do, and therefore i do think that the conservative party needs to — think that the conservative party needs to be careful not to look as though— needs to be careful not to look as though they are meddling in a politically motivated way. both sides _ politically motivated way. both sides are — politically motivated way. both sides are obviously saying that reactions— sides are obviously saying that reactions are politically motivated, but i reactions are politically motivated, but i think— reactions are politically motivated, but i think it's a difficult line to tread, — but i think it's a difficult line to tread, and _ but i think it's a difficult line to tread, and there is risk that one 'ury tread, and there is risk that one jury verdicts, many people have no sympathy— jury verdicts, many people have no sympathy when it comes to the statue. — sympathy when it comes to the statue, lots of people think it should — statue, lots of people think it should have been taken down in the first place. — should have been taken down in the first place, one verdict is not what you need — first place, one verdict is not what you need to — first place, one verdict is not what you need to rewrite the laws of the attorney— you need to rewrite the laws of the attorney general and, so i think there _ attorney general and, so i think there is— attorney general and, so i think there is a — attorney general and, so i think there is a wrecked of overreacting. ithink— there is a wrecked of overreacting. i think it's — there is a wrecked of overreacting. i think it's worth pointing out people have spoken up in defence of the jury— people have spoken up in defence of the jury verdict and supporter, so it's not— the jury verdict and supporter, so it's not like — the jury verdict and supporter, so it's not like every single conservative takes issue here. george — conservative takes issue here. george osborne, former chancellor. let me ask you about this, katy, it's an app that has been trialled for women, presumably men as well, in the wake of the murder of sarah everard, and is being trialled by a couple of forces are a couple of divisions in the met, tell us about it what you think of it. yeah, so this is an app that would allow— yeah, so this is an app that would allow people to track the friends' journey— allow people to track the friends' journey home, and it's about women's safety _ journey home, and it's about women's safety it's _ journey home, and it's about women's safety. it's interesting, ithink there — safety. it's interesting, ithink there are _ safety. it's interesting, ithink there are a report a few months ago by the _ there are a report a few months ago by the idea — there are a report a few months ago by the idea of an app, lots of people — by the idea of an app, lots of people given the circumstances of that tragic murder were very uncomfortable with almost a police being _ uncomfortable with almost a police being involved in looking at how you -et being involved in looking at how you get home, _ being involved in looking at how you get home, given that the person who murdered _ get home, given that the person who murdered sarah everard was a policeman. they didn't like the idea of that _ policeman. they didn't like the idea of that i_ policeman. they didn't like the idea of that. i think what is good about the app. _ of that. i think what is good about the app. as— of that. i think what is good about the app, as it is reported here, is actually— the app, as it is reported here, is actually you — the app, as it is reported here, is actually you could in theory choose to people — actually you could in theory choose to people who had been motivated if you went _ to people who had been motivated if you went off the route, so if you went _ you went off the route, so if you went off — you went off the route, so if you went off the red going home you didn't— went off the red going home you didn't go— went off the red going home you didn't go that way, you could alert your trusted people, friends and family— your trusted people, friends and family that you put down to be alerted, — family that you put down to be alerted, and i think i would address some _ alerted, and i think i would address some of— alerted, and i think i would address some of the concerns with the ideam — some of the concerns with the idea... ., ,., some of the concerns with the idea... ., �*, idea... on that point, let's say i was a friend. — idea... on that point, let's say i was a friend, suddenly - idea... on that point, let's say i was a friend, suddenly i - idea... on that point, let's say i was a friend, suddenly i was - was a friend, suddenly i was alerted, what would i do? would i ring the police? would ifine they would be likely to go out of my friend just been off fruit for five minutes? if friend just been off fruit for five minutes? , , ., minutes? if they were 'ust a neighbour fl minutes? if they were 'ust a neighbour who i minutes? if they were 'ust a neighbour who could h minutes? if they were just a neighbour who could maybe| minutes? if they were just a - neighbour who could maybe come by and check, _ neighbour who could maybe come by and check, but if they were just being _ and check, but if they were just being notified by home or giving a call, it— being notified by home or giving a call, it could make someone feel safer is— call, it could make someone feel safer isjust walking call, it could make someone feel safer is just walking home. call, it could make someone feel safer isjust walking home. there is not a _ safer isjust walking home. there is not a perfect solution to the problem _ not a perfect solution to the problem that this could address, but if it helps— problem that this could address, but if it helps people feel a bit safer or get— if it helps people feel a bit safer or get that phone call when they think— or get that phone call when they think they're being followed by someone and maybe that's because someone _ someone and maybe that's because someone off, maybe that could be of positive _ someone off, maybe that could be of positive part of trying to fix some of the _ positive part of trying to fix some of the problems. i'm going to ask you post what you think of the photographs of the duchess of cambridge, they are all over social media, released because she is a0 years old. the news that british newspapers are very confirmatory.— british newspapers are very confirmato . ~ ., ., ~ confirmatory. what do you think, james? i confirmatory. what do you think, james? l have — confirmatory. what do you think, james? i have to _ confirmatory. what do you think, james? i have to tread _ confirmatory. what do you think, james? i have to tread very - james? i have to tread very carefully here is an old man, but i would only echo what you said earlier, she does look stunning, i think on a wider level, she has become a very popular member of the royalfamily and this become a very popular member of the royal family and this is underscored that, neverfractures in the royal family of the last year, harry and megan meghan when a will,, and its accessibility of a sort of maturity and on a so absent from some members of the royalfamily, i'm not a monarchist but i find that really reassuring, to see the continuity from the queen to prince charles than to kate and william, i think that's really good for the country because they are really important symbols of stability and duty in this country, which is such an important thing.— this country, which is such an important thing. compared to the ublici important thing. compared to the publicity around _ important thing. compared to the publicity around prince _ important thing. compared to the publicity around prince andrew, l important thing. compared to the publicity around prince andrew, i | publicity around prince andrew, i think this kind of publicity is obviously welcome for the royal family. katy, what think?- family. katy, what think? yeah, i auree, i family. katy, what think? yeah, i agree. i think _ family. katy, what think? yeah, i agree, i think the _ family. katy, what think? yeah, i agree, i think the duchess - family. katy, what think? yeah, i agree, i think the duchess of - agree, i think the duchess of cambridge it clearly develops in her role, _ cambridge it clearly develops in her role, looks— cambridge it clearly develops in her role, looks very confident now, at ease _ role, looks very confident now, at ease. obviously, it will be a future gueen, _ ease. obviously, it will be a future queen, and — ease. obviously, it will be a future queen, and i— ease. obviously, it will be a future queen, and i think you have a situation _ queen, and i think you have a situation where you had the royal family— situation where you had the royal family have had a difficult year, but it's— family have had a difficult year, but it's even more testing for some of the _ but it's even more testing for some of the things that have been outlined, prince andrew, and the fact you — outlined, prince andrew, and the fact you have members of the royal family— fact you have members of the royal family who — fact you have members of the royal family who have real treatment very high approval ratings who do the 'ob, high approval ratings who do the job, going about and representing, meeting _ job, going about and representing, meeting people, and doing that for the right— meeting people, and doing that for the right reasons is something that is going _ the right reasons is something that is going to — the right reasons is something that is going to be good for the monarchy as they— is going to be good for the monarchy as they face — is going to be good for the monarchy as they face lots of problems coming up. as they face lots of problems coming u . _ ., ~' as they face lots of problems coming u n . ., " , ., as they face lots of problems coming up. thank you both very much. thank ou, up. thank you both very much. thank you. katy. — up. thank you both very much. thank you. katy. thank _ up. thank you both very much. thank you. katy. thank you _ up. thank you both very much. thank you, katy, thank you james. - up. thank you both very much. thank you, katy, thank you james. thank i you, katy, thank you james. thank you, katy, thank you james. thank you for giving us your time this morning. that's it for the paper this morning — headlines coming up at the top of the hour. goodbye for now. hello. compared to yesterday, it's been a much drier and brighter day so far for most of you. bit of a chilly start, admittedly, but lots of sunshine across southern and eastern areas at present. there are a few showers, though, particularly in the west. they've become more widespread across parts of southern scotland and northern ireland, and through the afternoon they will push into northern england, increasing the cloud here. showers are mainly of rain, but a little bit of hail, sleet or a little snow in some spots. the north of it will see sunshine continue in northern scotland. southern scotland should brighten up a little bit. much of wales, the midlands, east anglia and the south—east dry with sunny spells, any showers very few and far between, but the channel islands down towards the far south—west of england, devon, cornwall and south—west wales, will see cloud increase. milder air trying to push in, but with it some rain or drizzle, and that will continue through this evening and overnight, pushing into western areas. showers in northern england push through the east midlands, east anglia and fade. cold middle part of the night across parts of eastern uk, maybe —6 in eastern scotland for a time, and there is still a little bit of frost for one or two into the morning, but a chilly temperatures rise through the second half of the night, and by the start of tomorrow, 8—10 degrees in the west, that's because you will be in this little slice of milder air sandwiched between these two weather fronts. the first one just bringing increased amounts of cloud, patchy drizzle, the second one bringing some heavier bursts of rain in northern scotland and strengthening winds. that will touch gale force later in the day. hazy sunshine, though, will continue through monday across some eastern areas, but you can just see how the cloud thickens up. there's some light rain or drizzle on it pushing its way eastwards, lying somewhere from yorkshire through the midlands towards the isle of wight during the afternoon. west of that we will see extensive mist, low cloud around some of the coast, but 12 or 13 degrees. before that where the front arrives, 8 or 9 in the east. that weather front then pushes away southwards as we go through into tuesday. milder start in the south, the cloud, occasional rain or drizzle, particularly to the south—east during the day. much brighter conditions further north, with sunny spells. a few showers continue in scotland, strong to gale force winds, as well. temperatures drop relative to monday, but there's still a degree or two above what we would normally expect in this stage of the year, and they will climb a little bit further for some as we go through this coming week. through wednesday in the second half of the week, high pressure builds in across the south. closer to that area of high pressure, so, southern parts of england and wales, this is where we could see some overnight frost, fog. that could linger through the day, so, for one or two temperatures, mid—single figures at best during the second half of the week. further north, with more breeze, some breaks in the cloud, up to around 10 or 11 celsius. this is bbc news broadcasting in the uk and around the globe. i'm victoria derbyshire. here are your top stories: england's education secretary becomes the first uk cabinet minister to back reducing covid isolation down from seven days to five. novak djokovic prepares for a court hearing — after saying he has a vaccine exemption to enter australia — because he had covid last month. russian troops arrive in kazakhstan as order is restored following six days of violence. the afghan baby separated from his parents in kabul during the chaos of the us withdrawal — is reunited with relatives. the duchess of cambridge at a0 — three new portraits will go on display in english towns where kate has lived to celebrate her birthday. and it's a draw for england and australia in the fourth ashes test.

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