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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are aubrey allegretti, political correspondent at the guardian, and sian griffiths, education and families editor at the sunday times. now, the updated list of front pages for you at home. the observer leads with comments from the former chairman of the uk's vaccine task force, who says we must end mass vaccinations for covid and treat the virus like we do flu. the sunday times also looks at a post—pandemic britain, reporting that free lateral flow tests will come to an end as the country is told to live with covid. according to the sunday telegraph, liz truss, the new brexit negotiator, is insisting that the uk will overhaul the post—brexit agreement over northern ireland if she cannot reach a solution with the eu. another cabinet minister writes in the sunday express — this time, the home secretary priti patel warning the house of lords not to water down new police powers in tackling knife crime. the online independent says that oil and gas firms were invited by the government to help write the rules on whether new drilling complies with the uk's climate targets. and the sunday mirror claims it's crisis time on albert square as danny dyer quits eastenders. let's begin, that. sian, do you want to because office hour with your paper, the sunday times? and of lateral flow tests?— lateral flow tests? yes, dramatic headline, lateral flow tests? yes, dramatic headline. as _ lateral flow tests? yes, dramatic headline, as the _ lateral flow tests? yes, dramatic headline, as the country - lateral flow tests? yes, dramatic headline, as the country is - lateral flow tests? yes, dramatic| headline, as the country is totally with covid stub is a really good story from our political editor caroline wheeler and our data project editor, it is a story that this mass testing that we have been living with now for such a long time is set to come to an end in that the government is not going to provide free tests in the very near future. we spent £6 billion, this story says, en masse testing so far, but this story is very much suggesting that we are moving towards the end of the pandemic, away from the pandemic, and that we need to see covid in the future much more like flu. it is a serious illness, but not one where we have to lock our selves away. there is a very good interview with nadhim zahawi, the education secretary, where he is saying he wants to move towards a new normal. he is very much urging schools to remain open, he says gcse exams will go ahead this summer. universities will do face—to—face with students. more life as we used to do it than the way we have recently. miniatures story. forgive me for interrupting, _ recently. miniatures story. forgive me for interrupting, sian. - recently. miniatures story. forgive me for interrupting, sian. aubrey, j me for interrupting, sian. aubrey, what do you make a? who me for interrupting, sian. aubrey, what do you make a? who amongst us and i what do you make a? who amongst us andi not what do you make a? who amongst us and i got used — what do you make a? who amongst us and i got used to _ what do you make a? who amongst us and i got used to doing _ what do you make a? who amongst us and i got used to doing these - what do you make a? who amongst us and i got used to doing these latter. and i got used to doing these latter flow tests twice a week at least —— have not— flow tests twice a week at least —— have not got used to? there's also this concept — they are not going to be free, we have _ they are not going to be free, we have to _ they are not going to be free, we have to pay— they are not going to be free, we have to pay for them, that will have an effect _ have to pay for them, that will have an effect on— have to pay for them, that will have an effect on people's abilities use the covid — an effect on people's abilities use the covid passes, because if you're not vaccinated at the moment, you can use a _ not vaccinated at the moment, you can use a letter flow test result to enter some — can use a letter flow test result to enter some of those venues. if you cannot— enter some of those venues. if you cannot get— enter some of those venues. if you cannot get access to that letter flow test because it is not free any more, _ flow test because it is not free any more. does — flow test because it is not free any more, does that mean you're being coerced _ more, does that mean you're being coerced or— more, does that mean you're being coerced or pushed closer to getting a vaccine? — coerced or pushed closer to getting a vaccine? that might be a problem on the _ a vaccine? that might be a problem on the premise of's hands. wes streeting, — on the premise of's hands. wes streeting, has also been making the point this— streeting, has also been making the point this could come into effect as we're _ point this could come into effect as we're hearing about the so—called cost of _ we're hearing about the so—called cost of living crisis, the inflation rising. _ cost of living crisis, the inflation rising, energy bills going up, so are people _ rising, energy bills going up, so are people going to be having spare cash tying _ are people going to be having spare cash lying around? what made that did people positively did make sure they are _ did people positively did make sure they are testing regularly? —— what that might — they are testing regularly? —— what that might do to people's ability to? �* �* that might do to people's ability to? “ to? the bbc political correspondent ben wri . ht to? the bbc political correspondent iden wright has _ to? the bbc political correspondent ben wright has put _ to? the bbc political correspondent ben wright has put the _ to? the bbc political correspondent ben wright has put the story - to? the bbc political correspondent ben wright has put the story to - to? the bbc political correspondent ben wright has put the story to the | ben wright has put the story to the government and got a statement saying that everyone can continue get free tests. record numbers of tessa been delivered. the uk testing programme is the biggest in europe. testing continues to play an important role in helping people live their daily lives, keep businesses running and keep young people in school, so all of that is, they're going to be there, but we understand what the government is saying is no decision has been taken, which does not mean to say a decision won't be taken to that effect, so we will watch that one and i think the story, in the absence of a confirmation this is going to happen, lives to see sunday out. —— this is not going to happen. always a challenge! you can have them knocked down quite early on, but this one is going to fight on another day, i think. but this one is going to fight on another day, ithink. let's move another day, i think. let's move the observer. aubrey, this moves on neatly with what the times is saying. the former chief... making sure we had _ saying. the former chief... making sure we had enough _ saying. the former chief... making sure we had enoughjabs, - saying. the former chief... making sure we had enough jabs, and - saying. the former chief... making | sure we had enough jabs, and what sure we had enoughjabs, and what he is saying. _ sure we had enoughjabs, and what he is saying. we _ sure we had enoughjabs, and what he is saying, we are moving to the booster— is saying, we are moving to the booster campaign now, 61% of people of had _ booster campaign now, 61% of people of had their— booster campaign now, 61% of people of had their third jab. the attention is starting to turn to what — attention is starting to turn to what is — attention is starting to turn to what is going to happen next. are we going _ what is going to happen next. are we going to say— what is going to happen next. are we going to say people need a fourth, fifth, _ going to say people need a fourth, fifth, sixth— going to say people need a fourth, fifth, sixthjab? are we going to go through— fifth, sixthjab? are we going to go through a _ fifth, sixthjab? are we going to go through a process where every six months. _ through a process where every six months. we — through a process where every six months, we asked people to get a not to let _ months, we asked people to get a not to let it— months, we asked people to get a not to let it again? what he is saying is, we _ to let it again? what he is saying is, we need _ to let it again? what he is saying is, we need to move voice from the traditional route and do more research _ traditional route and do more research into water perley b cells and t _ research into water perley b cells and t cells — research into water perley b cells and t cells as well —— what are apparently called. use research that will enable people to go and look specifically at variance and give those _ specifically at variance and give those axing to people who are more clinically— those axing to people who are more clinically vulnerable rather than 'ust clinically vulnerable rather than just going, the nhs needs to drop rnost _ just going, the nhs needs to drop most of— just going, the nhs needs to drop most of the things it is doing in order— most of the things it is doing in order to — most of the things it is doing in order to act like the entire population. order to act like the entire pepuiation-_ order to act like the entire population. order to act like the entire --oulation. . . ., ., ., population. sian, the idea of moving out of the pandemic... _ population. sian, the idea of moving out of the pandemic... 1-wood - population. sian, the idea of moving out of the pandemic... 1-wood have| out of the pandemic... i—wood have not thought it was controversial, presumably the controversy is about when you decide that point has been reached. , ., ., ., ~' when you decide that point has been reached. , ., ., ., ,, ., reached. yes, and look at the statistics _ reached. yes, and look at the statistics that _ reached. yes, and look at the statistics that are _ reached. yes, and look at the statistics that are around - reached. yes, and look at the statistics that are around this | statistics that are around this weekend, this terrible figure of 150,000 deaths so far from covid weekend, this terrible figure of 150,000 deaths so farfrom covid in the uk, one of the highest holes anywhere in the world, the idea that we are through the pandemic and moving into an end, seems very jarring, actually. ithink moving into an end, seems very jarring, actually. i think it is not clear from what the scientists are saying whether we have reached the peak or whether there is more to go, nadhim zahawi in the sunday times and interviews saying we're going have a very bumpy couple of weeks ahead, schools are reopening, students going back to university, quite likely infections could carry on raising, so it does not feel like we are moving into an end phase. justly yet, at least. the observer, sian — novak djokovic's appeal, which take place on monday, so not many hours from now, because it is already monday morning... sorry, sunday morning, it is already sunday morning there, so 2a hours from now, there will be in court. said that he had covid recently, but not behaving like a man who just had covid. had covid recently, but not behaving like a man whojust had covid. he like a man who 'ust had covid. he now like a man whojust had covid. he: now faces fresh controversy over his attempt to take part in the australian open, because these pictures emerged on social media which show him on the day he is a must of had a positive covid virus test and they seem to show him at a public event, not wearing a mask either, so i think that raises questions about his exemption, because he is claiming exemption, that he can get into australia despite the fact he has not been vaccinated, because he has not been vaccinated, because he has already had a covid infection, but these pictures now are raising some questions about that. and we have got pictures on the front pages of other papers showing his supporters protesting, both in melbourne and also in belgrade, so it will be very interesting to see what the court decides on monday. aubrey? what the court decides on monday. aubre ? , ., _ , what the court decides on monday. aubre? , ., aubrey? yes, obviously it has been a real source — aubrey? yes, obviously it has been a real source of— aubrey? yes, obviously it has been a real source of controversy _ aubrey? yes, obviously it has been a real source of controversy in - real source of controversy in australia, _ real source of controversy in australia, particularly because of the realty — australia, particularly because of the really strict policy. there is very— the really strict policy. there is very emotive feeling amongst people in the _ very emotive feeling amongst people in the country. in really interesting to watch because obviously a lot of people think, they— obviously a lot of people think, they have — obviously a lot of people think, they have not been up to see relatives. _ they have not been up to see relatives, leave the country, have anyone _ relatives, leave the country, have anyone visit — relatives, leave the country, have anyone visit them, go to funerals, so they— anyone visit them, go to funerals, so they are — anyone visit them, go to funerals, so they are pretty dumbfounded about how we've _ so they are pretty dumbfounded about how we've got to the situation in the first place. how do djokovic and ”p the first place. how do djokovic and up periey— the first place. how do djokovic and up perley being told one thing by the state — up perley being told one thing by the state authorities and maybe another — the state authorities and maybe another thing by the national authorities —— how do djokovic end ”p authorities —— how do djokovic end up being _ authorities —— how do djokovic end up being told? monday, we will have some light _ up being told? monday, we will have some light shone on at some point let's move — some light shone on at some point let's move on to the telegraph, aubrey — let's move on to the telegraph, aubrey li2— let's move on to the telegraph, aubrey. liz truss to use article 16 if the eu won't make further concessions on the implementation of the new checks and procedures that are required under the post—brexit agreement. are required under the post-brexit agreement-— agreement. yes, article 16, triggering — agreement. yes, article 16, triggering that _ agreement. yes, article 16, triggering that will - agreement. yes, article 16, triggering that will be - agreement. yes, article 16, triggering that will be a - agreement. yes, article 16, - triggering that will be a pre-major triggering that will be a pre—major move _ triggering that will be a pre—major move it _ triggering that will be a pre—major move. it would essentially stop unilaterally applying checks on goods moving from great britain to northern— goods moving from great britain to northern ireland, and this is all so controversial because it is wrapped in the _ controversial because it is wrapped in the northern ireland protocol, the part— in the northern ireland protocol, the part of— in the northern ireland protocol, the part of the brexit deal that borisjohnson signed. so part of the issue _ borisjohnson signed. so part of the issue here is — borisjohnson signed. so part of the issue here is that liz truss... had a meeting — issue here is that liz truss... had a meeting with the european union on tuesday, i think it is, a little _ union on tuesday, i think it is, a little bit — union on tuesday, i think it is, a little bit of— union on tuesday, i think it is, a little bit of sabre rattling here, demonstrating that article 16 can be used, _ demonstrating that article 16 can be used. is _ demonstrating that article 16 can be used. is a _ demonstrating that article 16 can be used, is a legitimate device she is willing _ used, is a legitimate device she is willing - _ used, is a legitimate device she is willing — that's her words — to use. i willing — that's her words — to use. i don't _ willing — that's her words — to use. i don't we — willing — that's her words — to use. i don't we have any suggestion yet that the uk is going to activate or pull this— that the uk is going to activate or pull this trigger —— i don't think we have it _ pull this trigger —— i don't think we have it. liz truss being seen to be bold _ we have it. liz truss being seen to be bold and — we have it. liz truss being seen to be bold and issue this kind of threats— be bold and issue this kind of threats before the meeting, to set the mood, — threats before the meeting, to set the mood, for when... sian threats before the meeting, to set the mood, for when. . ._ the mood, for when... sian is smilin: the mood, for when... sian is smiling at— the mood, for when... sian is smiling at that! _ the mood, for when... sian is smiling at that! we _ the mood, for when... sian is smiling at that! we have - the mood, for when... sian is| smiling at that! we have seen the mood, for when... sian is - smiling at that! we have seen this before, haven't _ smiling at that! we have seen this before, haven't we? _ smiling at that! we have seen this before, haven't we? it _ smiling at that! we have seen this before, haven't we? it is - smiling at that! we have seen this before, haven't we? it is liz - before, haven't we? it is liz truss's first outing as the brexit negotiator... if there is a change _ as the brexit negotiator... if there is a change of _ as the brexit negotiator... if there is a change of tory _ as the brexit negotiator... if there is a change of tory leadership, - as the brexit negotiator... if there| is a change of tory leadership, she is a change of tory leadership, she is widely fancied, so she needs to keep her name in the headlines, one would have thought. sian, other store in the front of the telegraph, may be a sigh of relief over the breakfast plates in the downing street flat. , ,., breakfast plates in the downing street flat. , , , ., breakfast plates in the downing streetflat. , , , street flat. yes, so this is a story all about the _ street flat. yes, so this is a story all about the controversy - street flat. yes, so this is a story all about the controversy over - street flat. yes, so this is a story| all about the controversy over the refurbishment of the downing street flat, were borisjohnson lives with kerry —— carrie and their two children. very expensive refurbishment. the wallpaper is said to have caused £100 a roll, and the controversy was over who paid for the decoration, and he will be breathing a sigh of relief because the standards commissioner has decided apparent not to open a fresh investigation into exactly how this was funded and who knew what when, and if she had opened investigation, and if she had found he had not behaves according to the rules, he could have been recommended for suspension, and i could have triggered his recognition of a soap he has got off the hook —— his resignation. of a soap he has got off the hook -- his resignation.— his resignation. long story for the fact it is not _ his resignation. long story for the fact it is not going _ his resignation. long story for the fact it is not going to _ his resignation. long story for the fact it is not going to happen! - fact it is not going to happen! absolutely. i heard this on friday, and number 10 absolutely. i heard this on friday, and number10 were absolutely. i heard this on friday, and number 10 were quiet about it, but it— and number 10 were quiet about it, but it comes down to the fact that she believes borisjohnson needs to be judging as ministerial code. as i understand — be judging as ministerial code. as i understand it, labourare understand it, labour are anticipating understand it, labourare anticipating this, and what they are planning _ anticipating this, and what they are planning to do is launch a new referral— planning to do is launch a new referral to _ planning to do is launch a new referral to her, claiming a breach of the _ referral to her, claiming a breach of the new— referral to her, claiming a breach of the new mps code of conduct. how that will— of the new mps code of conduct. how that will play out, very tricky and difficult — that will play out, very tricky and difficult. catherine stone wants to move _ difficult. catherine stone wants to move quite quietly. you difficult. catherine stone wants to move quite quietly.— move quite quietly. you heard it first on the _ move quite quietly. you heard it first on the papers! _ move quite quietly. you heard it first on the papers! an - move quite quietly. you heard it first on the papers! an update i first on the papers! an update already on what is in the papers. aubrey, thank you very much for some last word, both of you, on the dutch —— duchess of cameron a0. aubrey? -- duchess of cameron 40. aubrey? we have —— duchess of cameron 40. aubrey? we have seen the pictures of her, stunning. _ have seen the pictures of her, stunning, and the red dress is going to pick— stunning, and the red dress is going to pick everybody's i up tomorrow. sian? _ to pick everybody's i up tomorrow. sian? , , , , to pick everybody's i up tomorrow. sian? , _ . . to pick everybody's i up tomorrow. sian? , ,,, to pick everybody's i up tomorrow. sian? , ,, , ., sian? very stylish. she is wearing alexander mcqueen. _ sian? very stylish. she is wearing alexander mcqueen. it _ sian? very stylish. she is wearing alexander mcqueen. it is - sian? very stylish. she is wearing alexander mcqueen. it is an - sian? very stylish. she is wearing | alexander mcqueen. it is an italian golfer who has photographed her —— photographer. fit for a potential cueen, photographer. fit for a potential queen. perhaps! _ photographer. fit for a potential queen, perhaps! sian _ photographer. fit for a potential queen, perhaps! sian and - photographer. fit for a potential i queen, perhaps! sian and aubrey, lovely to speak to you both. that is the papers. jane hill and anna smith coming up next with the film review. i will see you tomorrow. bye—bye.

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