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Transcripts For BBCNEWS The Papers 20240709



hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are parliamentaryjournalist tony grew and journalist and broadcaster caroline frost. tomorrow's front pages, starting with... the metro leads with storm barra due to hit the uk tomorrow after 11 days of arwen. the financial times says there's a new strategy from lloyd's bank ceo which will see its banking ambitions in property and investment expand. the daily mirror's splash is fears that christmas celebrations could trigger a surge in coronavirus cases. staying with coronavirus, the guardian says there's a warning from a scientist that the next virus could be more lethal. the daily telegraph — leads with boosterjabs — as more than 300,000 housebound people are yet to have theirs. the sun leads with a message from the grandfather of arthur labinjo—hughes who says his killers must never go free as a major national review is announced. caroline, it looks like if we had fun now, according to the mirror, we will pay for it in the new year. this is very much a deja christmas groundhog noel because we had all these warning bells a year ago. nobody knew quite what was going to happen, that government u—turn. no u—turn so far. we are being told by the government, and enjoy yourselves, spend some money. but the health experts are saying go carefully and obviously now this newspaper has joined the latter side saying there may be a penalty to ny- saying there may be a penalty to pay. it is very difficult to know what to do, as a person, as an individual in this country, of course, it is winter, all the bugs get worse, the numbers go up. however, at the moment, the government are saying go out and revel. let's see where we are in a month's time. personally, i am playing it very low. i don't really want to see anybody, this is the excuse i have been waiting for. what excuse i have been waiting for. what about you? — excuse i have been waiting for. what about you? are _ excuse i have been waiting for. what about you? are you _ excuse i have been waiting for. what about you? are you feeling - excuse i have been waiting for. what about you? are you feeling glum? i excuse i have been waiting for. what| about you? are you feeling glum? no more than normal. _ about you? are you feeling glum? no more than normal. i— about you? are you feeling glum? no more than normal. i think _ about you? are you feeling glum? no more than normal. i think part - about you? are you feeling glum? no more than normal. i think part of- more than normal. i think part of the problem is there is a lack of feith— the problem is there is a lack of faith in— the problem is there is a lack of faith in communication coming from the government. we have a government saying _ the government. we have a government saying one _ the government. we have a government saying one thing and site are saying anothen _ saying one thing and site are saying another. the fact that the prime minister— another. the fact that the prime minister can put on a mask in the hospital— minister can put on a mask in the hospital doesn't really help when the government is trying to help people _ the government is trying to help people wear masks in shops. caroline is right, _ people wear masks in shops. caroline is right, it _ people wear masks in shops. caroline is right, it is — people wear masks in shops. caroline is right, it is winter, and that is a time — is right, it is winter, and that is a time when _ is right, it is winter, and that is a time when we have cold and flu and all of— a time when we have cold and flu and all of that_ a time when we have cold and flu and all of that sort of thing. the most important — all of that sort of thing. the most important reason the government doesn't _ important reason the government doesn't want to bring in more stringent _ doesn't want to bring in more stringent measures is because of the affected _ stringent measures is because of the affected will have the economy. there _ affected will have the economy. there are — affected will have the economy. there are millions of peoples with 'obs there are millions of peoples with jobs that— there are millions of peoples with jobs that rely on people having christmas parties, going to the pub, going _ christmas parties, going to the pub, going out— christmas parties, going to the pub, going out shopping. it is not a small— going out shopping. it is not a small part _ going out shopping. it is not a small part of our economy. the government, therefore, has an unenviable task where it has to balance — unenviable task where it has to balance all of these issues to do with the — balance all of these issues to do with the economy had also to do with public— with the economy had also to do with public health and the main driver then is— public health and the main driver then is the — public health and the main driver then is the nhs. if the nhs can cope, _ then is the nhs. if the nhs can cope, we — then is the nhs. if the nhs can cope, we will need more stringent measures— cope, we will need more stringent measures but this report seems to indicate _ measures but this report seems to indicate that things were getting a bit more _ indicate that things were getting a bit more difficult injanuary. the bit more difficult in january. the guardian as _ bit more difficult injanuary. tie: guardian as saying the bit more difficult injanuary. ti9: guardian as saying the next virus could be more lethal and that is coming from professor sarah gilbert, one of the scientist behind the vaccine, the oxford bags in. that is a statement _ vaccine, the oxford bags in. that is a statement of _ vaccine, the oxford bags in. that is a statement of the _ vaccine, the oxford bags in. that is a statement of the obvious. - vaccine, the oxford bags in. that is a statement of the obvious. yes, . vaccine, the oxford bags in. that is| a statement of the obvious. yes, of course _ a statement of the obvious. yes, of course the — a statement of the obvious. yes, of course the next virus could be more deadly— course the next virus could be more deadly or— course the next virus could be more deadly or it — course the next virus could be more deadly or it might not be. there is no certainty — deadly or it might not be. there is no certainty in as well. i understand why she is giving out this morning but it is probably not the best— this morning but it is probably not the best thing that we need to hear because _ the best thing that we need to hear because we haven't even got over this pandemic before we start thinking — this pandemic before we start thinking about the next one. | thinking about the next one. wonder thinking about the next one. i wonder why she's saying it now? caroline, she could be right but we don't know. i suppose it is a warning that we have got to learn something from this pandemic. flu warning that we have got to learn something from this pandemic. on the one hand, something from this pandemic. on the one hand. we — something from this pandemic. on the one hand, we have _ something from this pandemic. on the one hand, we have all— something from this pandemic. on the one hand, we have all been _ something from this pandemic. on the one hand, we have all been walking i one hand, we have all been walking around the shallow end of the pool as we have now discovered. apparently, there is a deeper part of this pool we could be venturing into. we are seasoned and battle hardened but we are also battle fatigued. so, this is not good news, we are getting all these horrible rising figures of 0micron and in the meantime, apparently, there are many worse bigger things. it's like the sequel film, there is something worse hovering behind the door. i believe she's being a scientist, she is being dispassionate, she's going by her knowledge and her figures and her research but touching the heart strings, not good newsjust her research but touching the heart strings, not good news just before christmas. strings, not good news 'ust before christmas. �* , ., :, christmas. let's look another in the guardian, caroline. _ christmas. let's look another in the guardian, caroline. wealthier- christmas. let's look another in the guardian, caroline. wealthier drug | guardian, caroline. wealthier drug users face losing passport. the middle class, they could be have their collars felt. i middle class, they could be have their collars felt.— their collars felt. i have no idea wh this their collars felt. i have no idea why this is _ their collars felt. i have no idea why this is kind _ their collars felt. i have no idea why this is kind of _ their collars felt. i have no idea why this is kind of in _ their collars felt. i have no idea why this is kind of in the - their collars felt. i have no idea i why this is kind of in the hierarchy of attention right now. 0bviously, of attention right now. obviously, there is a sort of social apartheid when it comes to drug use. we know certain people get little tap on the shoulder all the risk and certain people are carted off of things that people are carted off of things that people seem very... however, i really don't think this is particularly important right now. however, perhaps it will make people chuckle and wonder about the very people imposing those laws and if they are perhaps shouting out, along with priti patel and at same the sniffer dogs in parliament. parts: with priti patel and at same the sniffer dogs in parliament. parts of this ten year _ sniffer dogs in parliament. parts of this ten year drug _ sniffer dogs in parliament. parts of this ten year drug strategy, - sniffer dogs in parliament. parts of this ten year drug strategy, tony, l this ten year drug strategy, tony, we are going to hear much more about it. :, , :, :, it. the government is going to mediate in _ it. the government is going to mediate in a _ it. the government is going to mediate in a series _ it. the government is going to mediate in a series of- it. the government is going to - mediate in a series of announcements this week _ mediate in a series of announcements this week. this is in the newspapers because _ this week. this is in the newspapers because it _ this week. this is in the newspapers because it plays well with focus groups — because it plays well with focus groups it — because it plays well with focus groups. it is clearly going to be very— groups. it is clearly going to be very difficult to implement it in any serious way. what do they mean by middle _ any serious way. what do they mean by middle class? what do they mean by middle class? what do they mean by drug _ by middle class? what do they mean by drug user? is it going to be in their— by drug user? is it going to be in their passport or in their driving licence? — their passport or in their driving licence? taking away their driving licence _ licence? taking away their driving licence can — licence? taking away their driving licence can take away their way of making _ licence can take away their way of making money. it is a headline grabbing — making money. it is a headline grabbing sort of announcement and obviously— grabbing sort of announcement and obviously newspapers will grasp on that but— obviously newspapers will grasp on that but when you think about the practicality of it, it makes very little _ practicality of it, it makes very little sense, quite frankly. let's look at the _ little sense, quite frankly. let's look at the sun. _ little sense, quite frankly. let's look at the sun. shall _ little sense, quite frankly. let's look at the sun. shall we? - little sense, quite frankly. t9it�*3 look at the sun. shall we? justice for arthur, look at the sun. shall we? justice forarthur, it look at the sun. shall we? justice for arthur, it says, throw away the key. this is the grandfather of this little boy whose voice we have heard in the most appalling circumstances this week. as his father and partner, his stepmother, were sent to prison for long jail terms. another review, this time a national one, and you wonder how many reviews we have got to have before things meaningfully change. if we have got to have before things meaningfully change.— we have got to have before things meaningfully change. if you want to ensure charge _ meaningfully change. if you want to ensure charge protection _ meaningfully change. if you want to ensure charge protection is - meaningfully change. if you want to ensure charge protection is the - meaningfully change. if you want to j ensure charge protection is the best it can _ ensure charge protection is the best it can be _ ensure charge protection is the best it can be then you need to properly resource _ it can be then you need to properly resource social workers. —— it can be then you need to properly resource socialworkers. —— if it can be then you need to properly resource social workers. —— if you want _ resource social workers. —— if you want to— resource social workers. —— if you want to ensure child protection is the best — want to ensure child protection is the best i— want to ensure child protection is the best. i rememberthat want to ensure child protection is the best. i remember that victoria ciimbie _ the best. i remember that victoria ciimbie a — the best. i remember that victoria climbie a case which was particularly horrific, that must be 13 or— particularly horrific, that must be 13 or 14— particularly horrific, that must be 13 or 14 years ago, on the one hand the state _ 13 or 14 years ago, on the one hand the state can't protect everyone all the state can't protect everyone all the time, _ the state can't protect everyone all the time, that is a horrible reaiity. _ the time, that is a horrible reality, but on the other hand if we invest— reality, but on the other hand if we invest our— reality, but on the other hand if we invest our money and social workers, more _ invest our money and social workers, more money— invest our money and social workers, more money on police and more money on all— more money on police and more money on all these _ more money on police and more money on all these organisations that we have that — on all these organisations that we have that are there to protect people. — have that are there to protect people, we probably find out that they would be less outcomes that are as tragic— they would be less outcomes that are as tragic as _ they would be less outcomes that are as tragic as this one.— as tragic as this one. caroline, you wonder what _ as tragic as this one. caroline, you wonder what it _ as tragic as this one. caroline, you wonder what it must _ as tragic as this one. caroline, you wonder what it must be _ as tragic as this one. caroline, you wonder what it must be like - as tragic as this one. caroline, you wonder what it must be like to - as tragic as this one. caroline, you wonder what it must be like to be| as tragic as this one. caroline, you | wonder what it must be like to be a social work at the moment when you see this all over the front pages on this poor little boy who, of course, normal right minded people will have wanted to save but there were so many times that we never hear about the successes of social workers. trio. the successes of social workers. no. no. this the successes of social workers. no. no- this is — the successes of social workers. no. no- this is the _ the successes of social workers. no. no. this is the only _ the successes of social workers. tin no. this is the only time we hear these kinds of stories, don't we? they like security services, we only know about the ones that horrendously get through the net. they had a champion in the children's commissioner today, came out exactly making that point and also explaining that during lockdown, both teachers, social workers have been striving to fill those gaps that tony describes that are just systemically now present in society. there is very little that one can say about this case because it is so emotive. it is so heart rendering. and yet i guess the only thing to say is that this is the reason, when we see horrendous headlines like this, throw away the key, this is whyjustice and these national reviews have to happen and they have to be considered dispassionately. irate they have to be considered dispassionately.— they have to be considered dispassionately. we know the sentences _ dispassionately. we know the sentences are _ dispassionately. we know the sentences are being - dispassionately. we know the sentences are being looked . dispassionately. we know the | sentences are being looked at dispassionately. we know the - sentences are being looked at again because they have been claims that they are too lenient.— they are too lenient. yes, and that is a process _ they are too lenient. yes, and that is a process that _ they are too lenient. yes, and that is a process that happens - they are too lenient. yes, and that is a process that happens not - they are too lenient. yes, and that is a process that happens not that| is a process that happens not that irregularly. — is a process that happens not that irregularly, actually. but i think it is also— irregularly, actually. but i think it is also important to stress that this child — it is also important to stress that this child is — it is also important to stress that this child is dead because those two people _ this child is dead because those two people did _ this child is dead because those two people did that to him and they are the ones _ people did that to him and they are the ones that are ultimately responsible for him. the job of the state _ responsible for him. the job of the state is _ responsible for him. the job of the state is to— responsible for him. the job of the state is to try and stop them from doing _ state is to try and stop them from doing it _ state is to try and stop them from doing it and the only way we can do that is— doing it and the only way we can do that is to _ doing it and the only way we can do that is to invest properly in services _ that is to invest properly in services and support. caroline, let's look _ services and support. caroline, let's look at — services and support. caroline, let's look at the _ services and support. caroline, let's look at the financial - services and support. caroline, l let's look at the financial times. musk is being left to make up will rule for space economy, says a european agency. i suppose if you are at the vanguard of something, you will make the rules. you are at the vanguard of something, you will make the rules.— you will make the rules. you have uuite a you will make the rules. you have quite a lot — you will make the rules. you have quite a lot of— you will make the rules. you have quite a lot of skin _ you will make the rules. you have quite a lot of skin in _ you will make the rules. you have quite a lot of skin in the _ you will make the rules. you have quite a lot of skin in the game - you will make the rules. you have| quite a lot of skin in the game and insolence bash influence, not the least with your big bucks, but i am sure the more successful he becomes and the more imitated, the more legislation and guidelines he will have to follow but at the moment he is quite literally and metaphorically out there on his own. and this is the problem and no areas, the legislation of the lags behind what is happening in terms of innovation, tony. haiti behind what is happening in terms of innovation, tony.— innovation, tony. hold on, this isn't a new— innovation, tony. hold on, this isn't a new area. _ innovation, tony. hold on, this isn't a new area. it _ innovation, tony. hold on, this isn't a new area. it is. - innovation, tony. hold on, this isn't a new area. it is. well, i isn't a new area. it is. well, excuse _ isn't a new area. it is. well, excuse me. _ isn't a new area. it is. well, excuse me. i— isn't a new area. it is. well, excuse me, i think- isn't a new area. it is. well, excuse me, i think space i isn't a new area. it is. well, - excuse me, i think space tourism is rather new!— excuse me, i think space tourism is rather new! well, it appears to only a- -l to rather new! well, it appears to only apply to white _ rather new! well, it appears to only apply to white male _ rather new! well, it appears to only apply to white male billionaires - rather new! well, it appears to only apply to white male billionaires so i apply to white male billionaires so it isn't exactly widespread. we do have time to make a framework for a bigger industry but i do find some of the antics of these little boys who have grown up in a billionaires slightly weird to be honest. the amount of money he sends ascending —— spends sending himself into space could pay for a lot of social workers. could pay for a lot of social workers-— could pay for a lot of social workers. ~ _, ., ,, ., ., workers. we could talk that through all niuht. workers. we could talk that through all night- but— workers. we could talk that through all night. but we _ workers. we could talk that through all night. but we won't. _ workers. we could talk that through all night. but we won't. let's - workers. we could talk that through all night. but we won't. let's talk i all night. but we won't. let's talk about something much closer to home. storm barra. you barrow watch out, it says. it sounds like i have missed pronounce to something. here it is in the metro. another mega storm heading our way.- it is in the metro. another mega storm heading our way. yes, lucky us. one storm heading our way. yes, lucky us- one thing _ storm heading our way. yes, lucky us- one thing i _ storm heading our way. yes, lucky us. one thing i will— storm heading our way. yes, lucky us. one thing i will say _ storm heading our way. yes, lucky us. one thing i will say that - storm heading our way. yes, lucky us. one thing i will say that this i us. one thing i will say that this story— us. one thing i will say that this story is— us. one thing i will say that this story is it — us. one thing i will say that this story is it will hit scotland in the north— story is it will hit scotland in the north of— story is it will hit scotland in the north of england the hardest. there are still— north of england the hardest. there are still parts of, still people in the north— are still parts of, still people in the north of england and scotland who still— the north of england and scotland who still haven't had power restored to their— who still haven't had power restored to their homes from storm are when which _ to their homes from storm are when which i _ to their homes from storm are when which i think— to their homes from storm are when which i think was about eight or nine _ which i think was about eight or nine days— which i think was about eight or nine days ago. i thought it was interesting because a cumbria mp said parts— interesting because a cumbria mp said parts of the south—east of england — said parts of the south—east of england had been without power for this long. _ england had been without power for this long, it would have been a much bigger— this long, it would have been a much bigger story~ — this long, it would have been a much bigger story. and i thought there was an— bigger story. and i thought there was an interesting point you made. yes, _ was an interesting point you made. yes. and _ was an interesting point you made. yes, and these people are still struggling in these freezing cold homes, caroline, the last thing they need is another barrage from another storm. i need is another barrage from another storm. :, :, , ., ., storm. i would, for sure. i had a similar piece _ storm. i would, for sure. i had a similar piece on _ storm. i would, for sure. i had a similar piece on the _ storm. i would, for sure. i had a similar piece on the radio - storm. i would, for sure. i had a similar piece on the radio the i similar piece on the radio the earlier, saying if this is happening in surrey we would not be hearing about the —— we would still be hearing about the power. this is bad news for these types of england and scotland. the only thing to say is that my heart goes out to them and my admiration goes out to the people who will be working through the day and very cold nights seeking to put that power back into place and prevent further damage. mil that power back into place and prevent further damage. all reported customer faults _ prevent further damage. all reported customer faults have _ prevent further damage. all reported customer faults have now _ prevent further damage. all reported customer faults have now been - customer faults have now been restored in scotland. everyone has been reconnected, let's hope it stays that way, we still have to sort out a few houses in the north of england and hope they don't get bashed again by this next storm again that is on its way. caroline tony are back at 11:30pm for another look at the front pages. horns blare noisy, isn't it? pardon? i said, it's noisy! it's been the bane of our lives for as long as i can remember — trying to film next to busy roads and having to fight the noise of the traffic! but in a few years' time, it will be replaced by this. soft noises electric cars are not only good for the planet, but they're also good for our ears — not that everyone minds. makes car revving noises. but, of course, there is a problem — if electric cars don't make a sound, you can't hear them coming. so, dan simmons has been driving a little bit slower than usual, it has to be said, to find out what might replace the sound of silence. if electric cars have to make a noise, well, we could end up with something like this. electronic music plays well, you wouldn't accidentally step out in front of it, would you? this is an art experiment to see how cars could interpret and complement the soundscape around them. more on that idea in a bit. but first, to get a feel of what the ev manufacturers themselves have in store for us, i've come to japanese car giant nissan's technical development centre in bedfordshire. what do you think people expect an electric car to sound like? that was the interesting question that we started with — what should a car sounds like? because none of us had really thought about it.

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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are parliamentaryjournalist tony grew and journalist and broadcaster caroline frost. tomorrow's front pages, starting with... the metro leads with storm barra due to hit the uk tomorrow after 11 days of arwen. the financial times says there's a new strategy from lloyd's bank ceo which will see its banking ambitions in property and investment expand. the daily mirror's splash is fears that christmas celebrations could trigger a surge in coronavirus cases. staying with coronavirus, the guardian says there's a warning from a scientist that the next virus could be more lethal. the daily telegraph — leads with boosterjabs — as more than 300,000 housebound people are yet to have theirs. the sun leads with a message from the grandfather of arthur labinjo—hughes who says his killers must never go free as a major national review is announced. caroline, it looks like if we had fun now, according to the mirror, we will pay for it in the new year. this is very much a deja christmas groundhog noel because we had all these warning bells a year ago. nobody knew quite what was going to happen, that government u—turn. no u—turn so far. we are being told by the government, and enjoy yourselves, spend some money. but the health experts are saying go carefully and obviously now this newspaper has joined the latter side saying there may be a penalty to ny- saying there may be a penalty to pay. it is very difficult to know what to do, as a person, as an individual in this country, of course, it is winter, all the bugs get worse, the numbers go up. however, at the moment, the government are saying go out and revel. let's see where we are in a month's time. personally, i am playing it very low. i don't really want to see anybody, this is the excuse i have been waiting for. what excuse i have been waiting for. what about you? — excuse i have been waiting for. what about you? are _ excuse i have been waiting for. what about you? are you _ excuse i have been waiting for. what about you? are you feeling - excuse i have been waiting for. what about you? are you feeling glum? i excuse i have been waiting for. what| about you? are you feeling glum? no more than normal. _ about you? are you feeling glum? no more than normal. i— about you? are you feeling glum? no more than normal. i think _ about you? are you feeling glum? no more than normal. i think part - about you? are you feeling glum? no more than normal. i think part of- more than normal. i think part of the problem is there is a lack of feith— the problem is there is a lack of faith in— the problem is there is a lack of faith in communication coming from the government. we have a government saying _ the government. we have a government saying one _ the government. we have a government saying one thing and site are saying anothen _ saying one thing and site are saying another. the fact that the prime minister— another. the fact that the prime minister can put on a mask in the hospital— minister can put on a mask in the hospital doesn't really help when the government is trying to help people _ the government is trying to help people wear masks in shops. caroline is right, _ people wear masks in shops. caroline is right, it _ people wear masks in shops. caroline is right, it is — people wear masks in shops. caroline is right, it is winter, and that is a time — is right, it is winter, and that is a time when _ is right, it is winter, and that is a time when we have cold and flu and all of— a time when we have cold and flu and all of that_ a time when we have cold and flu and all of that sort of thing. the most important — all of that sort of thing. the most important reason the government doesn't _ important reason the government doesn't want to bring in more stringent _ doesn't want to bring in more stringent measures is because of the affected _ stringent measures is because of the affected will have the economy. there _ affected will have the economy. there are — affected will have the economy. there are millions of peoples with 'obs there are millions of peoples with jobs that— there are millions of peoples with jobs that rely on people having christmas parties, going to the pub, going _ christmas parties, going to the pub, going out— christmas parties, going to the pub, going out shopping. it is not a small— going out shopping. it is not a small part _ going out shopping. it is not a small part of our economy. the government, therefore, has an unenviable task where it has to balance — unenviable task where it has to balance all of these issues to do with the — balance all of these issues to do with the economy had also to do with public— with the economy had also to do with public health and the main driver then is— public health and the main driver then is the — public health and the main driver then is the nhs. if the nhs can cope, _ then is the nhs. if the nhs can cope, we — then is the nhs. if the nhs can cope, we will need more stringent measures— cope, we will need more stringent measures but this report seems to indicate _ measures but this report seems to indicate that things were getting a bit more _ indicate that things were getting a bit more difficult injanuary. the bit more difficult in january. the guardian as _ bit more difficult injanuary. tie: guardian as saying the bit more difficult injanuary. ti9: guardian as saying the next virus could be more lethal and that is coming from professor sarah gilbert, one of the scientist behind the vaccine, the oxford bags in. that is a statement _ vaccine, the oxford bags in. that is a statement of _ vaccine, the oxford bags in. that is a statement of the _ vaccine, the oxford bags in. that is a statement of the obvious. - vaccine, the oxford bags in. that is a statement of the obvious. yes, . vaccine, the oxford bags in. that is| a statement of the obvious. yes, of course _ a statement of the obvious. yes, of course the — a statement of the obvious. yes, of course the next virus could be more deadly— course the next virus could be more deadly or— course the next virus could be more deadly or it — course the next virus could be more deadly or it might not be. there is no certainty — deadly or it might not be. there is no certainty in as well. i understand why she is giving out this morning but it is probably not the best— this morning but it is probably not the best thing that we need to hear because _ the best thing that we need to hear because we haven't even got over this pandemic before we start thinking — this pandemic before we start thinking about the next one. | thinking about the next one. wonder thinking about the next one. i wonder why she's saying it now? caroline, she could be right but we don't know. i suppose it is a warning that we have got to learn something from this pandemic. flu warning that we have got to learn something from this pandemic. on the one hand, something from this pandemic. on the one hand. we — something from this pandemic. on the one hand, we have _ something from this pandemic. on the one hand, we have all— something from this pandemic. on the one hand, we have all been _ something from this pandemic. on the one hand, we have all been walking i one hand, we have all been walking around the shallow end of the pool as we have now discovered. apparently, there is a deeper part of this pool we could be venturing into. we are seasoned and battle hardened but we are also battle fatigued. so, this is not good news, we are getting all these horrible rising figures of 0micron and in the meantime, apparently, there are many worse bigger things. it's like the sequel film, there is something worse hovering behind the door. i believe she's being a scientist, she is being dispassionate, she's going by her knowledge and her figures and her research but touching the heart strings, not good newsjust her research but touching the heart strings, not good news just before christmas. strings, not good news 'ust before christmas. �* , ., :, christmas. let's look another in the guardian, caroline. _ christmas. let's look another in the guardian, caroline. wealthier- christmas. let's look another in the guardian, caroline. wealthier drug | guardian, caroline. wealthier drug users face losing passport. the middle class, they could be have their collars felt. i middle class, they could be have their collars felt.— their collars felt. i have no idea wh this their collars felt. i have no idea why this is _ their collars felt. i have no idea why this is kind _ their collars felt. i have no idea why this is kind of _ their collars felt. i have no idea why this is kind of in _ their collars felt. i have no idea why this is kind of in the - their collars felt. i have no idea i why this is kind of in the hierarchy of attention right now. 0bviously, of attention right now. obviously, there is a sort of social apartheid when it comes to drug use. we know certain people get little tap on the shoulder all the risk and certain people are carted off of things that people are carted off of things that people seem very... however, i really don't think this is particularly important right now. however, perhaps it will make people chuckle and wonder about the very people imposing those laws and if they are perhaps shouting out, along with priti patel and at same the sniffer dogs in parliament. parts: with priti patel and at same the sniffer dogs in parliament. parts of this ten year _ sniffer dogs in parliament. parts of this ten year drug _ sniffer dogs in parliament. parts of this ten year drug strategy, - sniffer dogs in parliament. parts of this ten year drug strategy, tony, l this ten year drug strategy, tony, we are going to hear much more about it. :, , :, :, it. the government is going to mediate in _ it. the government is going to mediate in a _ it. the government is going to mediate in a series _ it. the government is going to mediate in a series of- it. the government is going to - mediate in a series of announcements this week _ mediate in a series of announcements this week. this is in the newspapers because _ this week. this is in the newspapers because it _ this week. this is in the newspapers because it plays well with focus groups — because it plays well with focus groups it — because it plays well with focus groups. it is clearly going to be very— groups. it is clearly going to be very difficult to implement it in any serious way. what do they mean by middle _ any serious way. what do they mean by middle class? what do they mean by middle class? what do they mean by drug _ by middle class? what do they mean by drug user? is it going to be in their— by drug user? is it going to be in their passport or in their driving licence? — their passport or in their driving licence? taking away their driving licence _ licence? taking away their driving licence can — licence? taking away their driving licence can take away their way of making _ licence can take away their way of making money. it is a headline grabbing — making money. it is a headline grabbing sort of announcement and obviously— grabbing sort of announcement and obviously newspapers will grasp on that but— obviously newspapers will grasp on that but when you think about the practicality of it, it makes very little _ practicality of it, it makes very little sense, quite frankly. let's look at the _ little sense, quite frankly. let's look at the sun. _ little sense, quite frankly. let's look at the sun. shall _ little sense, quite frankly. let's look at the sun. shall we? - little sense, quite frankly. t9it�*3 look at the sun. shall we? justice for arthur, look at the sun. shall we? justice forarthur, it look at the sun. shall we? justice for arthur, it says, throw away the key. this is the grandfather of this little boy whose voice we have heard in the most appalling circumstances this week. as his father and partner, his stepmother, were sent to prison for long jail terms. another review, this time a national one, and you wonder how many reviews we have got to have before things meaningfully change. if we have got to have before things meaningfully change.— we have got to have before things meaningfully change. if you want to ensure charge _ meaningfully change. if you want to ensure charge protection _ meaningfully change. if you want to ensure charge protection is - meaningfully change. if you want to ensure charge protection is the - meaningfully change. if you want to j ensure charge protection is the best it can _ ensure charge protection is the best it can be _ ensure charge protection is the best it can be then you need to properly resource _ it can be then you need to properly resource social workers. —— it can be then you need to properly resource socialworkers. —— if it can be then you need to properly resource social workers. —— if you want _ resource social workers. —— if you want to— resource social workers. —— if you want to ensure child protection is the best — want to ensure child protection is the best i— want to ensure child protection is the best. i rememberthat want to ensure child protection is the best. i remember that victoria ciimbie _ the best. i remember that victoria ciimbie a — the best. i remember that victoria climbie a case which was particularly horrific, that must be 13 or— particularly horrific, that must be 13 or 14— particularly horrific, that must be 13 or 14 years ago, on the one hand the state _ 13 or 14 years ago, on the one hand the state can't protect everyone all the state can't protect everyone all the time, _ the state can't protect everyone all the time, that is a horrible reaiity. _ the time, that is a horrible reality, but on the other hand if we invest— reality, but on the other hand if we invest our— reality, but on the other hand if we invest our money and social workers, more _ invest our money and social workers, more money— invest our money and social workers, more money on police and more money on all— more money on police and more money on all these _ more money on police and more money on all these organisations that we have that — on all these organisations that we have that are there to protect people. — have that are there to protect people, we probably find out that they would be less outcomes that are as tragic— they would be less outcomes that are as tragic as _ they would be less outcomes that are as tragic as this one.— as tragic as this one. caroline, you wonder what _ as tragic as this one. caroline, you wonder what it _ as tragic as this one. caroline, you wonder what it must _ as tragic as this one. caroline, you wonder what it must be _ as tragic as this one. caroline, you wonder what it must be like - as tragic as this one. caroline, you wonder what it must be like to - as tragic as this one. caroline, you wonder what it must be like to be| as tragic as this one. caroline, you | wonder what it must be like to be a social work at the moment when you see this all over the front pages on this poor little boy who, of course, normal right minded people will have wanted to save but there were so many times that we never hear about the successes of social workers. trio. the successes of social workers. no. no. this the successes of social workers. no. no- this is — the successes of social workers. no. no- this is the _ the successes of social workers. no. no. this is the only _ the successes of social workers. tin no. this is the only time we hear these kinds of stories, don't we? they like security services, we only know about the ones that horrendously get through the net. they had a champion in the children's commissioner today, came out exactly making that point and also explaining that during lockdown, both teachers, social workers have been striving to fill those gaps that tony describes that are just systemically now present in society. there is very little that one can say about this case because it is so emotive. it is so heart rendering. and yet i guess the only thing to say is that this is the reason, when we see horrendous headlines like this, throw away the key, this is whyjustice and these national reviews have to happen and they have to be considered dispassionately. irate they have to be considered dispassionately.— they have to be considered dispassionately. we know the sentences _ dispassionately. we know the sentences are _ dispassionately. we know the sentences are being - dispassionately. we know the sentences are being looked . dispassionately. we know the | sentences are being looked at dispassionately. we know the - sentences are being looked at again because they have been claims that they are too lenient.— they are too lenient. yes, and that is a process _ they are too lenient. yes, and that is a process that _ they are too lenient. yes, and that is a process that happens - they are too lenient. yes, and that is a process that happens not - they are too lenient. yes, and that is a process that happens not that| is a process that happens not that irregularly. — is a process that happens not that irregularly, actually. but i think it is also— irregularly, actually. but i think it is also important to stress that this child — it is also important to stress that this child is — it is also important to stress that this child is dead because those two people _ this child is dead because those two people did _ this child is dead because those two people did that to him and they are the ones _ people did that to him and they are the ones that are ultimately responsible for him. the job of the state _ responsible for him. the job of the state is _ responsible for him. the job of the state is to— responsible for him. the job of the state is to try and stop them from doing _ state is to try and stop them from doing it _ state is to try and stop them from doing it and the only way we can do that is— doing it and the only way we can do that is to _ doing it and the only way we can do that is to invest properly in services _ that is to invest properly in services and support. caroline, let's look _ services and support. caroline, let's look at — services and support. caroline, let's look at the _ services and support. caroline, let's look at the financial - services and support. caroline, l let's look at the financial times. musk is being left to make up will rule for space economy, says a european agency. i suppose if you are at the vanguard of something, you will make the rules. you are at the vanguard of something, you will make the rules.— you will make the rules. you have uuite a you will make the rules. you have quite a lot — you will make the rules. you have quite a lot of— you will make the rules. you have quite a lot of skin _ you will make the rules. you have quite a lot of skin in _ you will make the rules. you have quite a lot of skin in the _ you will make the rules. you have quite a lot of skin in the game - you will make the rules. you have| quite a lot of skin in the game and insolence bash influence, not the least with your big bucks, but i am sure the more successful he becomes and the more imitated, the more legislation and guidelines he will have to follow but at the moment he is quite literally and metaphorically out there on his own. and this is the problem and no areas, the legislation of the lags behind what is happening in terms of innovation, tony. haiti behind what is happening in terms of innovation, tony.— innovation, tony. hold on, this isn't a new— innovation, tony. hold on, this isn't a new area. _ innovation, tony. hold on, this isn't a new area. it _ innovation, tony. hold on, this isn't a new area. it is. - innovation, tony. hold on, this isn't a new area. it is. well, i isn't a new area. it is. well, excuse _ isn't a new area. it is. well, excuse me. _ isn't a new area. it is. well, excuse me. i— isn't a new area. it is. well, excuse me, i think- isn't a new area. it is. well, excuse me, i think space i isn't a new area. it is. well, - excuse me, i think space tourism is rather new!— excuse me, i think space tourism is rather new! well, it appears to only a- -l to rather new! well, it appears to only apply to white _ rather new! well, it appears to only apply to white male _ rather new! well, it appears to only apply to white male billionaires - rather new! well, it appears to only apply to white male billionaires so i apply to white male billionaires so it isn't exactly widespread. we do have time to make a framework for a bigger industry but i do find some of the antics of these little boys who have grown up in a billionaires slightly weird to be honest. the amount of money he sends ascending —— spends sending himself into space could pay for a lot of social workers. could pay for a lot of social workers-— could pay for a lot of social workers. ~ _, ., ,, ., ., workers. we could talk that through all niuht. workers. we could talk that through all night- but— workers. we could talk that through all night. but we _ workers. we could talk that through all night. but we won't. _ workers. we could talk that through all night. but we won't. let's - workers. we could talk that through all night. but we won't. let's talk i all night. but we won't. let's talk about something much closer to home. storm barra. you barrow watch out, it says. it sounds like i have missed pronounce to something. here it is in the metro. another mega storm heading our way.- it is in the metro. another mega storm heading our way. yes, lucky us. one storm heading our way. yes, lucky us- one thing _ storm heading our way. yes, lucky us- one thing i _ storm heading our way. yes, lucky us. one thing i will— storm heading our way. yes, lucky us. one thing i will say _ storm heading our way. yes, lucky us. one thing i will say that - storm heading our way. yes, lucky us. one thing i will say that this i us. one thing i will say that this story— us. one thing i will say that this story is— us. one thing i will say that this story is it — us. one thing i will say that this story is it will hit scotland in the north— story is it will hit scotland in the north of— story is it will hit scotland in the north of england the hardest. there are still— north of england the hardest. there are still parts of, still people in the north— are still parts of, still people in the north of england and scotland who still— the north of england and scotland who still haven't had power restored to their— who still haven't had power restored to their homes from storm are when which _ to their homes from storm are when which i _ to their homes from storm are when which i think— to their homes from storm are when which i think was about eight or nine _ which i think was about eight or nine days— which i think was about eight or nine days ago. i thought it was interesting because a cumbria mp said parts— interesting because a cumbria mp said parts of the south—east of england — said parts of the south—east of england had been without power for this long. _ england had been without power for this long, it would have been a much bigger— this long, it would have been a much bigger story~ — this long, it would have been a much bigger story. and i thought there was an— bigger story. and i thought there was an interesting point you made. yes, _ was an interesting point you made. yes. and _ was an interesting point you made. yes, and these people are still struggling in these freezing cold homes, caroline, the last thing they need is another barrage from another storm. i need is another barrage from another storm. :, :, , ., ., storm. i would, for sure. i had a similar piece _ storm. i would, for sure. i had a similar piece on _ storm. i would, for sure. i had a similar piece on the _ storm. i would, for sure. i had a similar piece on the radio - storm. i would, for sure. i had a similar piece on the radio the i similar piece on the radio the earlier, saying if this is happening in surrey we would not be hearing about the —— we would still be hearing about the power. this is bad news for these types of england and scotland. the only thing to say is that my heart goes out to them and my admiration goes out to the people who will be working through the day and very cold nights seeking to put that power back into place and prevent further damage. mil that power back into place and prevent further damage. all reported customer faults _ prevent further damage. all reported customer faults have _ prevent further damage. all reported customer faults have now _ prevent further damage. all reported customer faults have now been - customer faults have now been restored in scotland. everyone has been reconnected, let's hope it stays that way, we still have to sort out a few houses in the north of england and hope they don't get bashed again by this next storm again that is on its way. caroline tony are back at 11:30pm for another look at the front pages. horns blare noisy, isn't it? pardon? i said, it's noisy! it's been the bane of our lives for as long as i can remember — trying to film next to busy roads and having to fight the noise of the traffic! but in a few years' time, it will be replaced by this. soft noises electric cars are not only good for the planet, but they're also good for our ears — not that everyone minds. makes car revving noises. but, of course, there is a problem — if electric cars don't make a sound, you can't hear them coming. so, dan simmons has been driving a little bit slower than usual, it has to be said, to find out what might replace the sound of silence. if electric cars have to make a noise, well, we could end up with something like this. electronic music plays well, you wouldn't accidentally step out in front of it, would you? this is an art experiment to see how cars could interpret and complement the soundscape around them. more on that idea in a bit. but first, to get a feel of what the ev manufacturers themselves have in store for us, i've come to japanese car giant nissan's technical development centre in bedfordshire. what do you think people expect an electric car to sound like? that was the interesting question that we started with — what should a car sounds like? because none of us had really thought about it.

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