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racism and pass messages for the french resistance during the second world war. this is one of the greatest honours france can bestow, a seat in the resting place of its national heroes. josephine baker is the first black woman to be honoured here, a member of france's wartime resistance movement and a lifelong campaigner against racism. that campaign shaped herfamily, too. baker adopted 12 children from around the world, calling it her rainbow tribe. these children represent an example of real brotherhood. they show to people that it is possible to live together if we so wish to. the pantheon today echoed with her trademark song, j'ai deux amours, a love song to paris, as the city that revered her a century ago claimed herforever as its own. lucy williamson, bbc news, paris. that's it. now on bbc one, time for the news where you are. have a very good night. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with us are jane merrick, policy editorfor the i newspaper, and jamie njoku—goodwin, chief executive of uk music and former special adviser to the department of health and social care. so we are in good hands for the papers tonight! let's take a look at tomorrow's front pages, then. the expansions of the government's covid booster programme dominates the front pages. the is lead focuses on the pledge by the prime minister that everyone over the age of 18 in england will be offered a booster by the end of january. the army will be mobilized to ramp up the roll—out, says the metro, with 400 troops helping to administer half a millionjabs a day. the telegraph focuses on the tightening of covid restrictions, including a 10—day isolation for anyone who comes into contact with someone who tests positive for the omicron variant remaining in place until march next year. the guardian's splash is borisjohnson clashing with a senior government adviser over whether work christmas parties should go ahead. so let's begin with the i, then, nhs boosterjab so let's begin with the i, then, nhs booster jab for every adult by the end of january. booster jab for every adult by the end ofjanuary. quite an undertaking, jane. it end ofjanuary. quite an undertaking, jane.- end ofjanuary. quite an undertaking, jane. it is, and i think itjust — undertaking, jane. it is, and i think itjust shows _ undertaking, jane. it is, and i think itjust shows how- undertaking, jane. it is, and i | think itjust shows how serious undertaking, jane. it is, and i - think it just shows how serious the think itjust shows how serious the government is taking this variant, which only appeared a week ago, since then, things have moved such a such a fast pace. we have had flights from south africa stopped, the who has called it a variant of concern. the vaccine programme is at risk, we don't know how much of risk, we don't know how much of risk, so there really ramping up booster programme. they are really, really accelerating the campaign from today. really accelerating the campaign from today-— from today. jamie, it is going to reauire from today. jamie, it is going to require not _ from today. jamie, it is going to require notjust _ from today. jamie, it is going to require notjust gp _ from today. jamie, it is going to require notjust gp surgeries - from today. jamie, it is going to | require notjust gp surgeries and pharmacies, it is, as jane was saying, going to require us to have plenty of walking centres if we are going the coverage the government aspires to. it is going the coverage the government asires to. , ~ g. going the coverage the government asires to. , ~ aspires to. it is like jane was sa in: , aspires to. it is like jane was saying. one _ aspires to. it is like jane was saying. one of _ aspires to. it is like jane was saying, one of the _ aspires to. it is like jane was| saying, one of the challenges aspires to. it is like jane was - saying, one of the challenges with these _ saying, one of the challenges with these new— saying, one of the challenges with these new variance is you do not not quite _ these new variance is you do not not quite no _ these new variance is you do not not quite no immediate how serious they are. quite no immediate how serious they are the _ quite no immediate how serious they are. the government can either overreact — are. the government can either overreact or make sure the plate safe or _ overreact or make sure the plate safe or not — overreact or make sure the plate safe or not to get there is enough and be _ safe or not to get there is enough and be accused of making etiquette asking _ and be accused of making etiquette asking for— and be accused of making etiquette asking for office —— making it hard for hospitals down the line _ —— making it hard for hospitals down the line ice— —— i suppose the point is, some people — —— i suppose the point is, some pennie have _ —— i suppose the point is, some people have not had postjobs, other pennie are _ people have not had postjobs, other people are not had won. christmas is always— people are not had won. christmas is always a _ people are not had won. christmas is always a tough time, there is a lot of non—coronavirus diseases going around~ _ of non—coronavirus diseases going around. they're not taking any chances — around. they're not taking any chances. ., ., ., , chances. know, and of course, the flu “ab chances. know, and of course, the flu jab scheme. — chances. know, and of course, the flu jab scheme, people _ chances. know, and of course, the flu jab scheme, people are - chances. know, and of course, the flu jab scheme, people are being l flu jab scheme, people are being encouraged to take those as well. jamie, let's look at the metro with you. armycron, it says, a play on omicron. it always looks dramatic than we see armed forces personnel involved in schemes like this. it does. when i worked in government, we brought— does. when i worked in government, we brought them into help ramp up testing _ we brought them into help ramp up testing because they believe are the best in_ testing because they believe are the best in the _ testing because they believe are the best in the business. a little of the challenges about this is the huge _ the challenges about this is the huge logistical effort give a go through — huge logistical effort give a go through. you're trying to do three, four million — through. you're trying to do three, four millionjabs every through. you're trying to do three, four million jabs every week, that means— four million jabs every week, that means all— four million jabs every week, that means all sorts of centres set up, getting _ means all sorts of centres set up, getting vaccines and vials, and the army— getting vaccines and vials, and the army do _ getting vaccines and vials, and the army do clock work effectiveness, so it shows _ army do clock work effectiveness, so it shows how determined government is to make _ it shows how determined government is to make sure they get as many 'abs is to make sure they get as many jabs into — is to make sure they get as many jabs into arms in the next couple of months _ jabs into arms in the next couple of months. , ., jabs into arms in the next couple of months. , . ., . ., ., months. jane, once again, the army of volunteers _ months. jane, once again, the army of volunteers that _ months. jane, once again, the army of volunteers that we _ months. jane, once again, the army of volunteers that we saw _ months. jane, once again, the army of volunteers that we saw coming i of volunteers that we saw coming forward in the first lockdown, to support people trapped in their own homes, because they were shielding a needed support, this time needed to get this vaccination roll—out completed on time. get this vaccination roll-out completed on time.- get this vaccination roll-out completed on time. get this vaccination roll-out comleted on time. . ., , , completed on time. yeah, that seems such a lona completed on time. yeah, that seems such a long time _ completed on time. yeah, that seems such a long time ago, _ completed on time. yeah, that seems such a long time ago, doesn't - completed on time. yeah, that seems such a long time ago, doesn't it, - such a long time ago, doesn't it, right at the start of the pandemic, with the repealing for people to come forward, i am sure jamie remembers this well. so many people offered their services to get trained, to be able to administer jabs. that really took off at the start of the year and i think people are going to take it up again and it is very encouraging. yes. are going to take it up again and it is very encouraging.— are going to take it up again and it is very encouraging. yes, it is, and if we look — is very encouraging. yes, it is, and if we look at _ is very encouraging. yes, it is, and if we look at the _ is very encouraging. yes, it is, and if we look at the telegraph - is very encouraging. yes, it is, and if we look at the telegraph now, i is very encouraging. yes, it is, and if we look at the telegraph now, it| if we look at the telegraph now, it jane, new covid restriction to last until march next year. always a bit wary when i read headlines like this that are so emphatic, because as we know, things change so rapidly with a new variant coming in, which as you both said, we don't actually know a huge amount about at the moment. i know a huge amount about at the moment. ~ , ., , moment. i think it is really important _ moment. i think it is really important to _ moment. i think it is really important to stress, - moment. i think it is really important to stress, for . moment. i think it is really - important to stress, for people reading this headline, that they are not going to last definitely until march next year. they are going to be reviewed on the 23rd of december, and hopefully by then, we will know and hopefully by then, we will know a lot more about this variant, we know how transmissible it is, how much it evades vaccines. crucially, what they are really looking for is how severe the illness is. there are early reports from south africa this could be a milder illness, in which case the government can scale back the restrictions possibly slightly. what the telegraph are drying out is the fact that in the regulations passed by the house of commons today, they last until march, but it does not necessarily mean that the restrictions are going to last until march, isjust restrictions are going to last until march, is just they have to have it in lawjust in case we face a fourth wave over the winter, but i think it is important to stress that these new restrictions are really until the 21st of december, and then we'll know so much more about this variant. i know so much more about this variant. , , ., variant. i suppose for the government, _ variant. i suppose for the government, this - variant. i suppose for the government, this is - variant. i suppose for the i government, this is quite variant. i suppose for the l government, this is quite a variant. i suppose for the - government, this is quite a handy headline in some ways, jamie, because it might warn people of the worst case, potential worst case scenario, just as we got used to, particularly in england, to a few more freedoms than, let's say, in wales and scotland? we are being asked to wear masks in certain places, so i suppose it is managing expectations perhaps. true places, so i suppose it is managing expectations perhaps.— expectations perhaps. true for the ublic, expectations perhaps. true for the public. but — expectations perhaps. true for the public, but maybe _ public, but maybe not for the tory mps _ public, but maybe not for the tory mps as _ public, but maybe not for the tory mps. as jane says, government is going — mps. as jane says, government is going to _ mps. as jane says, government is going to he — mps. as jane says, government is going to be reviewing this every three _ going to be reviewing this every three weeks, so bess can scenario the review— three weeks, so bess can scenario the review it in three weeks' time, government— the review it in three weeks' time, government says, this is not as serious — government says, this is not as serious as— government says, this is not as serious as we feared and relaxed this regulations. problem is, tory backbenchers think that is not going to happen, — backbenchers think that is not going to happen, they think they will be in place _ to happen, they think they will be in place until march. they argue these _ in place until march. they argue these are — in place until march. they argue these are impinging people's liberties, have other sorts of... the _ liberties, have other sorts of... the impact _ liberties, have other sorts of... the impact on missed cancer cases unknown _ the impact on missed cancer cases unknown the nhs, there's a big push back _ unknown the nhs, there's a big push back. , ., ~ unknown the nhs, there's a big push back. , ., ,, ., back. yes, we will talk about the cancer cases _ back. yes, we will talk about the cancer cases in _ back. yes, we will talk about the cancer cases in a _ back. yes, we will talk about the cancer cases in a moment, - back. yes, we will talk about the cancer cases in a moment, but l back. yes, we will talk about the | cancer cases in a moment, but in back. yes, we will talk about the - cancer cases in a moment, but in the past, the government was criticised for not acting soon enough, jayna. is really interesting. i have cover this pandemic since the start, and this pandemic since the start, and this is probably the fastest the government have acted —— it was really interesting. it was extraordinary how quickly they acted, that is because the warnings coming from all the scientists about how much mutation this variant has, it really hammered home not only about the threat to the nhs but our vaccine success, would have been, could have been undone if wejust allow this to let rip, so i think it is really good. it should be really encouraging for people watching that there were 22 cases in the country, there were 22 cases in the country, the public officials overly hammering down on these outbreaks and trying to contain them. it does not mean we are good let this variant let rip, but you are right, it is in stark contrast to previous cases. the alpha variant last year, the prime minister kind of went off with christmas, and then we had to go to a very hard lockdown about two weeks later, so it is really striking, actually, just how quickly the government have moved this time. jane, let's stay with the daily telegraph and this headline. possible cancer cases missed. these have come from the national audit office. let have come from the national audit office. ~ g ., , office. let mr with jane this time, jane dominic— office. let mr with jane this time, jane dominicjamie. _ —— let me start with. -- let me start with. this is from the national _ -- let me start with. this is from the national audit _ -- let me start with. this is from the national audit office, - -- let me start with. this is from i the national audit office, it really worrying figure, possible cancer cases that should been picked up, because at the turn of the pandemic, the first lockdown, gps were not able to see anybody except extreme cases and people were encouraged to call 111, there was not that many face—to—face meetings, so this is drawing out the side effects and they are also pointing out that the waiting lists could carry on going until 2025, so i think even if we see the pandemic, to an end, let's hope so in the next year, say, the next few months, we are going to see the aftermath of this in health terms going on for quite a long time. , ., , terms going on for quite a long time. , ,. ,, ., time. this was discussed right at the early start — time. this was discussed right at the early start of— time. this was discussed right at the early start of the _ time. this was discussed right at the early start of the pandemic l time. this was discussed right at| the early start of the pandemic as well, jamie, wasn't it? we won't know the true cost of the pandemic until much later? because, yes, there have sadly been tens of thousands of deaths from covid, but there could be that lag effects of people who have got progressive diseases which don't get addressed that, if sadly they will also diet. it is incredibly poignant, isn't it? it is incredibly poignant, isn't it? i have _ it is incredibly poignant, isn't it? i have sympathy for policymakers. they are _ i have sympathy for policymakers. they are essentially living in the land of — they are essentially living in the land of bad options. you will see people _ land of bad options. you will see people die — land of bad options. you will see people die from covid, and on the other— people die from covid, and on the other hand. — people die from covid, and on the other hand, if you do these restrictions, people die from non—covid diseases. the reality of it is, _ non—covid diseases. the reality of it is, we _ non—covid diseases. the reality of it is, we are — non—covid diseases. the reality of it is, we are not going to know into the future, — it is, we are not going to know into the future, when you look at excess debts _ the future, when you look at excess debts and _ the future, when you look at excess debts and know exactly what happened, but it is a really difficult _ happened, but it is a really difficult balancing for government and you _ difficult balancing for government and you want to make sure people can soak at _ and you want to make sure people can soak at the _ and you want to make sure people can soak at the care they need and get the diagnosis they desperately need while making sure this virus does not run _ while making sure this virus does not run rampant to.— while making sure this virus does not run rampant to. because some --eole, not run rampant to. because some people. jamie. — not run rampant to. because some people. jamie. were _ not run rampant to. because some people, jamie, were not _ not run rampant to. because some people, jamie, were not coming i people, jamie, were not coming forward with diseases even when they could because they were so worried about going into hospital? i5 could because they were so worried about going into hospital?- about going into hospital? is why i do not necessarily _ about going into hospital? is why i do not necessarily by _ about going into hospital? is why i do not necessarily by the - about going into hospital? is why i do not necessarily by the idea - about going into hospital? is why i do not necessarily by the idea this| do not necessarily by the idea this isjust_ do not necessarily by the idea this isjust the — do not necessarily by the idea this isjust the lockdown, because at do not necessarily by the idea this is just the lockdown, because at the time, _ is just the lockdown, because at the time, people were terrified to leave their house, people did not go to hospitals — their house, people did not go to hospitals or gp surgeries because there _ hospitals or gp surgeries because there were worries there was covid there, _ there were worries there was covid there. so— there were worries there was covid there. so it — there were worries there was covid there, so it is sad, the reality of whether— there, so it is sad, the reality of whether you lock down or not lockdown, the public behaviour element... does not make it any less tragic— element... does not make it any less tragic or— element... does not make it any less tragic or awful, but it is one the reasons— tragic or awful, but it is one the reasons like post pandemic and even now: _ reasons like post pandemic and even now. one _ reasons like post pandemic and even now. one of— reasons like post pandemic and even now, one of the things that you job it has— now, one of the things that you job it has in— now, one of the things that you job it has in his — now, one of the things that you job it has in his inbox as new health secretary— it has in his inbox as new health secretary is, how do we get through these _ secretary is, how do we get through these new— secretary is, how do we get through these new backlogs? —— one of the 'obs these new backlogs? —— one of the jobs for— these new backlogs? —— one of the jobs for sajid javid. it isjust more — jobs for sajid javid. it isjust more important in the wake of the pandemic— more important in the wake of the pandemic now. more important in the wake of the pandemic now— pandemic now. that's look at the guardian, jane _ pandemic now. that's look at the guardian, jane - _ pandemic now. that's look at the guardian, jane - pm _ pandemic now. that's look at the guardian, jane - pm clashes- pandemic now. that's look at the guardian, jane - pm clashes with guardian, jane — pm clashes with health officials over new curve. borisjohnson singh, have your christmas party, go to your nativity play, have your christmas, but not everyone agrees. == play, have your christmas, but not everyone agrees.— everyone agrees. -- saying. the official saying. — everyone agrees. -- saying. the official saying, it _ everyone agrees. -- saying. the official saying, it is _ everyone agrees. -- saying. the official saying, it is the - everyone agrees. -- saying. the official saying, it is the time - everyone agrees. -- saying. the official saying, it is the time of. official saying, it is the time of year, people are having get—togethers, and asked if people should go ahead, she said people should go ahead, she said people should not socialise if they do not need to, which i thought was a strange we departed. socialising is a good thing to you at the time of year at the prime minister has had back, basically to make clear this is not what they are saying. they're introducing facemasks in shops and on public transport, they are tightening the rules on self isolation and on travel, but they are not interesting and rules of hospitality, on social distancing, and i think it is quite important that he is stressing that, but what i think it also shows isjenny harries is giving her opinion and nothing a lot of people nearly two years into this pandemic probably canjudge for themselves years into this pandemic probably can judge for themselves whether they would like to go to that party next week —— i think a lot of people. i think a few people will probably end up not going

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