he will chat away or if he is in the car, he lets people know. he wants to entertain, he is good value. so, what does he say? well, it was quite embarrassing, because obviously he travels in a cat basket, which people do not realise and the cat is actually in the dog trolley, so he is on the trying and he will shout out, lock the doors! lock the doors! and people are looking at me, my lips aren't moving, and it is like, lock the doors... he will wait until it is absolutely silent, but somehow he seems to know when to say lock the doors on the train. it seems to be when they are closing. it is quite uncanny. it is unnerving, and people do not realise the parrot is there and you can see everyone looking around, you know, order! order! he really starts then. you haven't taught him to say order, have you? well, i have, yes. some of the house as well. i have to say that some of our household are terrible, they deliberately do it and i think they record my voice. well, you know, he is perched on the microphone, so if it feels like a big moment, he can certainly have a word or two, can't he? is there anything that you have to do to get him to say, order, order, or is it down to his creative temperament when he thinks the moment is right. the problem is, like everything, he decides, everything is on boris' terms. boris will have it no other way. when boris decides, that is when it happens. all right. we still talking about the parrot? but, he is part of a wider menagerie, so maybe, just give him a minute and see if he does want to share any views with the newscast audience. he mayjustjoin in as we go along. brilliant, blimey, he is part of a menagerie though, i think we have got some video of your home, actually, maybe you can just talk us through. there are a couple of dogs, a giant tortoise. yes. called maggie. hard shell and not for turning. very good, what about the rest? is that a rottweiler? that, unfortunately, poor gordon, we lost gordon last year, but the thing is with gordon, he was fantastic, because why he was called gordon, he had the clunking paw. when you stopped talking, he would bang you on the knee oh, well maybe then we should get on with this week's edition of newscast. we are delighted to have the speaker of the house of commons with us this week and indeed, boris, the african grey. well, because we have got quite a lot to talk about, boris has gone off for a little break, but it was a joy to meet him and have him here in the studio and it is lovely to have you with us. it is the first time we have talked to you like this, as speaker, it is a pretty strangejob, isn't it? do you like it? what is it like? so, i have got to say, it is tremendous. first lancashire mp to make speaker, what better accent could we have in the chair, but also this is the north, this is the north coming south. this is about lancashire being represented in the house of commons and i have got to say, it is an absolute privilege to be able to become speaker. it is very enjoyable, it is something that i get a lot out of it. there are times when it can test me, but overall i have got to say, i have been very lucky, the people of chorley put their trust in me to be an elected member of parliament and then to become the speaker and still represent chorley, there is no betterjob in the world. one of those testing times that you talk about? as you have seen recently, you know, i must be pretty unusual, no sooner have i got elected then we have a general election. during a general election, i find out i am a type one diabetic, following that, i still have brexit to pick up. but we thought the big thing was brexit, but we were completely overtaken by covid. you know, who would have thought that covid, a worldwide pandemic, and trying to deal with that, so what i would say is, i would like to know what it is like to be speaker in normal times. i have just not got there. but obviously i think we will get there shortly, i think it is important, but we have taken the house through, we are one of only eight legislators in the world that sat every day that we should. we have never lost a day. that is a big thanks to the house of commons staff. what a difference they make. without them, they had to change 750 years of working within 48 hours and we got there. who would have thought that we could vote remotely? mps would be speaking from their constituencies? and we did it. so much for us to talk about in the next 15 minutes or so and i guess one of the really big things, lindsay, in your role and for you and your deputies is presiding over discussions of the highest importance, the most seriousness and we have seen today that home secretary priti patel came to the commons to answer questions from mps about the horrendous situation in the channel over the last 36 hours or so and we can talk now to our newscast friend, european editor katya adler who is in calais for us. hello, katya. hello. so, katya, we have seen so much, haven't we in the news in the last 2a hours or so about what has happened in the channel. let's take a step back, this is a colossal challenge, isn't it, it is a colossal challenge for the government here in the uk and indeed for france, we have had conversations in the eu, about what to do. absolutely and i think - from france's point of view, it is as much a pan—european problem as it is a bilateral. issue with the uk. so, i mean, you also have to take the politics into it, whereas for boris johnson, he promised with brexit i he would be taking backl control over our borders, so what does that look. like right now, with these deaths in the channel? i on the other hand, you have gotl emmanuel macron here in france, heading into a difficult french presidential election, under. pressure from the political - right, wanting to sound tough, nationalist, tough on security and so when the uk again - offered these joint patrols with the french on french| beaches and in french waters, i emmanuel macron said no way. he said, you should understand, uk, it is a question _ of national sovereignty, i but he has asked for help from the european union, i because for him it is as much a european problem as it is . an issue with united kingdom and of course we have seen what is known as irregular. migration, basically these i awful dinghies from different parts of the edges, - external borders of europe. remember, chris and laura, the migrant crisis of 2015. i that affected southern member states. - we had poland recently asking for help from the eu _ with its border with belarus i and here we have the problem in calais and something else - that president emmanuel macron has said is, look, these . asylum seekers and others who are here in calais- and want to get to the uk, they do notjust magically. appear here, they often have to make their way through other european countries. in order to get here. so, katya, it is interesting tonight, so priti patel, the home secretary has talked to her french counterpart this afternoon and we understand that some uk officials and law enforcement officers are actually going to france tonight. she is going to go on sunday. but when emmanuel macron seems to be taking a hardline saying we cannot do this kind of collaboration that the uk government is asking for, what do you the prospects what do you think the prospects are of that stand—off changing? it is an historic movement of people across notjust one but two continents, if you think that people are coming from the middle east and further afield. what are the chances actually then, in a big picture way, of anything changing? it is interesting, laura, - because as much as we have seen the uk and the eu, sorry, france, saying - we will co—operate more i in the wake of those awful deaths yesterday, there hasl been so much cross—channel sniping by france saying the uk, it is your- fault and vice versa. at the same time, when they do work together, i like when they stepped up - patrols in the channel tunnel, it is actually extremely. effective and it is because they are so effective - in the channel tunnel that you have desperate peoplel taking even more desperate measures to cross over| to the united kingdom, even the media here in france, they are saying. _ ijust shut up with the politics, i all of you, what we really need to do is save lives, i this is not acceptable. this loss of life we are seeing _ thank you, katya. i am sure that will be regularly back in the commons because it is so important. what is also not an issue going away is the question of the behaviour of mps. with you in the chair. a couple of years ago you said you hope that the house would once again be a great respected house and i hope that once again it is the envy of the world. does it feel like that over the last few weeks? some days. we saw the house at its best with the tragedy of sir david amess, a great friend to the house, the house was at its best when it united and there is no better way than remembering sir david, he brought the house together and we wanted to show that we stood shoulder to shoulder, that we will not give in to terrorism, far from it. this was the house and i have to say the tributes that were paid were unbelievable. people speaking from the heart, right across the chamber, that was fantastic, to be followed a short time later, when we went through the issue of owen paterson and that is when the house, without doubt, was at its worst. what we've got to do is take the best and try and maintain that and that is why i said on wednesday, please, we have just been, the day before, we have been at the cathedral, to the funeral of sir david amess, let us try and do it for him, let us be more respectful of each other and more tolerant in the way we approach it. the public out there, if we do not show respect to each other, why should other people? do you think there is a terrible reality now that actually because political debate in this country has become so vicious in the last few years. i remember that it was shocking during the brexit debate, the first time i heard an mp use the word traitor and everyone remembers, everyone followed the debate and is the reality now that political debate, being so vicious, has made politicians more likely to be targeted? do you think both are linked and we have got to be very careful about making direct connections, but the way that people speak to each other, it has changed, hasn't it? that is why i want to get tolerance and respect into the views. do you think your colleagues listen? we have heard you say it quite a lot. i am going to keep trying, i do not give up. i will keep pursuing that. i think ten days ago it was pretty rough in that chamber. it was slightly better this week, we have got to keep trying to improve and turn down the heat, trying to show there is a way forward. i think brexit divided the country, but it divided families. it divided views and it allowed a lot of hate to come out. we have to take the hate out of politics and i always say to people, i do not expect people to agree, if you do not agree, there is a ballot box. do it through the ballot box, prove you have the right argument, prove you are in charge of this debate. do not do it by shouting and threatening. journalists got threatened just as much as mp5, it became a nasty and toxic horrible period and we have got to get beyond that now. you talk about it being pretty rough in the chamber last week and you talked about it being a dark week, the week surrounding the whole question about owen paterson and the way the government approached all of that. clearly no actions by anyone in this postcode justify any kind of threats that mps or others are subjected to, but when you have a situation like that, that allows critics to look in on this postcode and say, articulate that all of their worst prejudices about politicians might be playing out in reality, how does parliament collectively confront that? it depends where it's coming from as well. online abuse is the worst. much harder to follow and what we've got to do is work with the social media companies... they have a responsibility, they have a duty of care as well. if somebody says, "i'm going to rape that mp, "why doesn't somebody else do that?" first, it shouldn't be up there, it should be taken down immediately. we've got to prosecute these people. people who want to do harm to others, we don't stand by, we don't allow it, we should have zero tolerance. should we get rid of anonymity online? absolutely, i believe you should know who is putting the messages up there. i believe the government has also got to look at legislation. if we cannot get the social media companies to engage properly, to work with us, therefore the only answer will be legislation. i don't want anybody to use legislation because i think common sense says, these companies have a social responsibility. they've got to take out... it's the instigation of others to carry out attacks as well that really do worry me. in fairness, with a much better interaction with social media companies, we are working much closer. we do get things taken down straightaway, and rightly so. but we should know who these people are. i'll be honest, zero tolerance is where we need to be, we've got to prosecute people, we've got to take people to court and quite rightly we should. i'm at the forefront of making sure that happens. i've given a witness statement on behalf of all mp5 that can be used in court because i'm determined to stamp it out. we get threats. i never used to get threats. somebody said, we're going to place a bomb under my car. the fact is, somebody's going to come and murder me. it's much easier for me to brush it aside, but actually, a new mp, somebody who's not been around? we shouldn't have to tolerate it anyhow, that's the reality of it. when you said it was a pretty rough week in the chamber, what did you mean by that? you're no stranger to showing your passion for manners and protocol in the house. what did you mean by a rough week? it was rough because you could see the side had been charged up ready, the moment that somebody stood up, it was like it started, the wave of noise was coming, trying to calm that side down, the other side would erupt as well. and i think the exchanges became very heated. it wasn't the way forward. and then it became a challenge. was that a challenge to me? and in the end, i don't want it to be about me. i don't want people to have noticed it was about me. but unfortunately, that day it was about me because i had to absolutely slam down, i'm in charge in this house, i will decide what is right and what is wrong. for people who might have missed it, you're talking there about a very heated prime minister's questions. yes. you, mr speaker, if i may, basically told the prime minister to sit down and shut up. i hope it was slightly nicer than that. laughter. i think it was a bit more like, you know, you might be the prime minister of this country, but in this house i'm in charge. i wanted to reassert, to make sure that we all understood in that chamber that i won't be undermined and in the end, i'm doing it for them. because those mps matter to me. they have 30 minutes in which to get those questions in. i've got to get through that, i've got to make sure that their constituents' views are read to the prime minister, the questions are posed to him. and what i didn't want was this exchange of nastiness. and that's where we were going, on both sides. i pulled up both sides, and quite rightly. it does look every week like the prime minister drives you round the twist. no, far from it. are you sure? absolutely! it wouldn't be just the prime minister. does keir starmer drive you round the twist as well? i've a job to do, and hopefully i've got to show i can carry out thatjob, and sometimes i've got to use a bit more authority than i would do normally. and i try to be more calm in my approach, but what i can't be is undermined. did that moment with the prime ministerjust come to you because of what was happening at that point? the anger bubbling up within you? because it was quite a kind of visceral intervention, really. well, in fairness, two of us can't be stood up at the same time. when somebody... we were both stood up, one of us has to sit down. well, it can't be me! so, unfortunately i've got to give a reason, in fairness to the prime minister, to give him a good reason to sit down and hopefully, that's all it was. a gentle reminder of saying, please sit down. i'm stood on my feet. let's talk about one of the big talking points this week within parliament, which involves stella creasy, the labour mp, and the whole business of her three—month—old baby asleep when she wanted to take part in the chamber. she's had plenty to say since about an e—mail saying she had received saying that that wasn't appropriate. how should parliament strike the balance between allowing an mp to go about... you're loving this one, i can see. chris is making all sorts of faces. it's a difficult balance. on the one hand, stella creasy would argue that there are certain duties that only an mp can perform, and therefore someone else can't do the work for her. on the other hand, there will be newscasters watching and listening to us thinking, i can't take my child to the police station when i turn up for my shift as a copper, or whatever, and therefore maybe her argument shouldn't be given too much credibility. what i would say is, you know, ithink there are many, many views, and that's the problem. stella quite rightly has her view, i've got other mothers who are saying, i don't agree with that. we shouldn't be treated differently, you know, i represent constituents, i expect to be treated the same. so, there really is an issue. i've got both sides of the argument. what i'm saying is, whoever's in the chair should take what they think is the right decision at that moment. and in the meantime, for me to rule as a male, i don't think... you know, who am i, a grey man, to say you should you know, who am i, a grey—haired man, you should or you should not? it puts me in an impossible position. ithink, quite rightly, the procedure committee is, let's hear the evidence, let them take it forward. at the moment, the rules are clear. you shouldn't bring children into the chamber. that's not something i've made up, that's something i inherited. so what i've said is, look, let's use some discretion. whoever is chairing, whether it's westminster hall or in the chamber, use discretion at that moment in time. it doesn't that make it a bit confusing, though? you are the boss, after all. yes, there are certain things that you bow to, and i've got to say, when i look after my grandchildren, they'd love to come into the chamber. no, that's not the right thing. you could have pets in as well. they'd love it, boris would love to sit on the chair arm. i genuinely think it's a big issue. but the house needs to make its mind up. as i say, i've been heavily lobbied not to change the rules. by who? by other mothers. and it's been very clear, they've made their voice, i've got texts on my phone saying, do not give in. well, i think it's not about giving in, it's about doing the right thing. and that's why the procedure committee has been asked to look into it, report back, and it will allow both sides of the argument to give the evidence and let us make the right decision. in the end, you'll have to make a decision, won't you? well, the procedure committee will make a recommendation. you know, quite rightly, there is no point having other people look into something if you're just going to dismiss it. and i don't know what they're going to say. so, as things stand, though, you're going to have a look at the rules, but right now, could stella creasy bring her baby into the commons next week? well, the answer is, it will be the circumstances. why? what is the need? if you were in the chair. i think, what is the need, why next week? whatever the subject is next week. it is strange. somebody said to me, i can't believe it, stella creasy was on question time, but i noticed the baby wasn't to be seen. what i would say is, it's about the event, what is the discussion, what is the need? let's make that decision at the time and find out what is the real reason to do that. there may be nobody to look after the baby. and it must be, something may happen in that constituency that's so pressing. what i would say is, let's not put the handcuffs on at this stage, let the house report back. let's try and calm it down. because that was the other issue about yesterday. somebody said, he's been very good, the baby's burped, so therefore he's managed to move the situation on. ithought, well, that's an unusual way of suggesting what i was doing. what i wanted to do was just try and say, it's a matter that's very heated, let's take the heat out of it and let's make some rational decisions going forward. even the prime minister'sjoined in. before we finish, i've got to ask you about chinos and the whole business of dress code in the commons. because, what's wrong with chinos? you don't want... don't start me, chris. let me just say, first of all, chinos... i'm very good at, i don't want to get into fashion for women or men. i'll be quite honest with you. i'm very lucky, the deputies love talking about what we should wear and not where in the chamber. wear in the chamber. and in the end, i think we have a job and i think you should wear an outfit that's appropriate to the chamber. now, who am i to define whether it'sjeans, chinos. i've got to say, short sleeve, long—sleeved dresses, i am lost. i don't want to get into fashion, i'll be quite honest! you get a nice big black cloak to wear, so you don't have to worry about what you're going to put on in the morning! absolutely! i think it is a dress code that they feel, i've got to be honest, it's a checkout for me on what clothes are. i'm glad i asked that. i'm very glad you asked that, and i'm very reassured that the speaker of the house of commons in the mother of parliaments, to misquote the phrase, is pretty confident getting himself dressed in the morning. i feel very reassured and much better. thank you so much. thank you. come back another time, bring the rest of the menagerie. i'll bring maggie next time, she can sit on the top of the desk. the cat would love it, he would never move. amazing. thank you so much, sir lindsay hoyle. please do come again, maybe bring some of the rest of your menagerie but maybe not share yourfashion advice next time. we must, though, chris, before we go, share with viewers what actually happened with boris the parrot before we started officially recording. hello. does he not like things over his head? be careful... hello. it's like a dog, you shouldn't go over the head, you should go under. woo! oh, no, boris! i knew you'd do this. you're not going to bite me. come on. good boy. he's a good boy. it was rather alarming, and it rather explains why i'm sitting nervously through the whole thing, because i wasn't sure... obviously entirely cool and calm in front of obviously we come across as entirely cool and calm in front of the cameras, as always. and ended up being terrified of a parrot. and then boris landed on the speaker's head. which as newscast moments go, we've had a few over the years. but that will be one of them that we recall for quite a while, i suspect. it's a sentence i never thought i would hear, and a good way to draw tonight's newscast to a close. indeed. thank you, everyone, for watching and listening. adam will be back here tomorrow, and we will both be back here next week. goodbye. newscast from the bbc. hello. the 1st named storm of the season is approaching and attempt to bring some disruptive weather over the next couple of days. storm are i next couple of days. storm are i will be developing especially later friday into saturday bring not only widespread gears but sleet and snow mainly over high ground in the north and is likely to cause disruption because of that combination of strong winds, cold weather and sleet and snow on higher ground so for friday morning we have clout and patchy rain across much of england and wales which pushes south—east, then we are left with sunshine and blustery showers from the north and across the north of scotland those showers will merge into longer spells of snow over high ground, some sleet and snow over parts of northern ireland like this barren mountains, mainly rain showers further south. it will feel chilly, aduu south. it will feel chilly, adult windchill and it will feel colder. we have an amber warning in force for eastern scotland and north—east england, could see gas between 65 and 70 mph later on friday and overnight into saturday so in this area of sleet and snow and rain pushes south and east followed by more wintry showers packing in from the north, overnight temperatures in towns and cities above freezing but colder than that in the countryside so as the storm pushes out towards the south east we will start to draw in strong cold northerly winds as we head into sunday morning, guts quite widely at 30— a0 mph in the 50, 60 guts quite widely at 30— a0 mph in the 50,60 or higher so we have this area of rain, some sleet and snow over snow over higher ground person eastwards across eastern england on sunday, more of those wintry showers across scotland, something to for central and western areas and it is turning colder but when you are not on the effect of that when it will feel some 0a many of us to the day on sunday so cold, windy with wintry showers. heading into sunday as storm arwen starts to clear to the east, things will settle down and little bit. still some wintry showers packing in across the north of scotland and east of england, quite a bit of dry weather elsewhere but it will feel cold through the weekend. the deaths of twenty—seven welcome to bbc news — i'm simon pusey. our top stories. the uk bans arrivals from six african countries amid warnings over a rapidly—spreading new coronavirus variant. our scientists are deeply concerned about this variant. it may well be more transmissible and the current vaccines that we have may well be less effective. the united nations says