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it should work. that is why i am working with partners on this. i think it is such a shame, actually, that once again the snp, a party that once again the snp, a party that has failed to support asylum seekers in their own local authorities, madam deputy speaker, 31 out of 32 local authorities... they may sit there and yell shame at me but 31 out of 32 local authorities do not participate in the voluntary dispersal scheme for housing asylum seekers. there is an inconsistency here, if i may say so, inconsistency here, if i may say so, in their approach. i am in agreement on the need for safe legal writs. we will do it properly, while we recognise the type of instability and uncertainty and persecution that people that need to claim asylum i'm not getting and we will change it. thank you madam deputy speaker. i think the house knows that my right honourable friend has strained every sinew since her first day imposed to prevent the sort of tragedies we saw in the last 204i was. she and my right honourable friend are also right honourable friend are also right to point of the pan—european nature of this problem. for example, frontex have quadrupled their surveillance of the mediterranean alone in the past year. and she has identified our ongoing cooperation with the french is central in this. can she tell the house what additional measures she has offered the french to help crack down on these evil gangs and curb this deadly trade? he makes some very important points and also mentions frontex. the role of frontex, to see how they have accelerated surveillance, but even border patrols, they are even, madam deputy speaker, supporting activity in the mediterranean in terms of supporting boats entering territorial waters illegally as well, and i have seen theirs patrols myself, so it is a complete myth and fallacy to say that we should not look at all options. we are, and we will continue to do so. but in terms of measures offered to france, absolutely. i have often would ask them today for an honest assessment in terms of their own numbers and beaches, whether or not there are gaps, if more officers are needed, a realistic assessment in terms of the number of migrants that are coming through from belgium in particular, and the minister specifically mentions the pressures from that border and the boats, and the fatalities yesterday, the boats came from dunkirk, so clearly there are more flows there. but absolutely, more flows there. but absolutely, more police officers, more intelligence cooperation, more on technology. we have put forward a very significant technology offer which does include enhanced surveillance, anp are, on the roads coming up to the beaches, and we have also offered to put more officers, unwarranted, because they will not take warranted offices. but these are things i will be working to very specifically now. because the status quo cannot persist. i think there is a full understanding of this on the french side, and as i would say to the house, the one thing we absolutely are is a government, we are incredibly propositional to france in particular. we have defined joint solutions and if that means actually doing more with france and persuading them to take on more support, we will absolutely strain every sinew to do so. thank you, madam deputy speaker. our hearts_ thank you, madam deputy speaker. our hearts go— thank you, madam deputy speaker. our hearts go out all those affected by yesterdayterrible tragedy. but there was already deep concern in my constituency about the government's approach _ constituency about the government's approach to protecting men, women and children seeking refuge in the uk, and _ and children seeking refuge in the uk, and i— and children seeking refuge in the uk, and i also have many constituents with family members in fear of— constituents with family members in fear of their lives and seeking to escape _ fear of their lives and seeking to escape afghanistan following the taliban _ escape afghanistan following the taliban takeover. a new resettlement pathway _ taliban takeover. a new resettlement pathway for vulnerable afghans was announced in august, but three months — announced in august, but three months later, we still don't know when _ months later, we still don't know when the — months later, we still don't know when the afghan citizens resettlement scheme will be operational, or how those outside the uk _ operational, or how those outside the uk witt— operational, or how those outside the uk will be able to access it. can the — the uk will be able to access it. can the home secretary tell us today? — can the home secretary tell us toda ? ., ., ., , ., , can the home secretary tell us toda ? ., ., ., , , today? the honourable lady makes very important _ today? the honourable lady makes very important points _ today? the honourable lady makes very important points about - today? the honourable lady makes very important points about the - very important points about the afghan resettlement scheme, which was announced in august at the time of great crisis. my honourable friend the minister for the afghan resettlement scheme will be updating colleagues in due course on this. i would however like to just emphasise to colleagues, with operation pit in, we evacuated 15,000 people. we are still in the process of trying to resettle them, and in terms of resettling more people from afghanistan, and i know the cases are coming through, and across government it is fcd air mod with the cases that are still being carried through, we need to make sure we can again bring people forward and bring people forward, that we can get settled, rather than what we have seen sadly, and we are very adamant about this as well, being put into hotels in inadequate accommodation, and we need them in the community. what an appalling and entirely foreseeable tragedy. will the home secretary agree with me that we cannot wait on her excellent bill, we cannot wait on the french cooperating with us in taking these poor people back, as they should. we have two act now in a national emergency to save lives. there are only two countries in the world who have solved this problem. australia, which has an offshore processing centre, and greece, that does push back. we have to be tough. we have two face down the human rights lawyers. if governments are weak, people die. just in response to my right honourable friend's colleagues... i echo his frustration fully. —— comments. in terms of toughness, i have been very clear, and i know this does upset some right honourable and honourable members in this house. i have not ruled everything out, and i put every option on the table, notjust with france, but without the counterparts. greece in terms of push backs, they have special forces. they use their military and coast guard and they used frontex as well, just for the record, for this house. as i said, i have seen that. they also have a programme of reception centres which my right honourable friend will know and is aware of are part of the new plan immigration is welcome in terms of how we have immigration, how we deal with the casework processing as well. the fact of the matter is, there is no one silver bullet solution to this, and i know he understands this and i know my colleagues do as well. that is why the new pathway for immigration is important in the nationalising borders bill. the members will hear shortly about the progress of that bill coming back in the house and its next stages. it is an important piece of legislation because it will set the direction of travel and importantly, give the government more powers to actually be much, much firmer and will end many of the pull factors that have existed for too long, and actually have helped too long, and actually have helped to facilitate and encourage illegal migration. thank you, madam deputy speaker. does the _ thank you, madam deputy speaker. does the home secretary except that the only— does the home secretary except that the only way in which people traffickers and gangs can operate is because _ traffickers and gangs can operate is because of— traffickers and gangs can operate is because of the absolute desperation of people _ because of the absolute desperation of people across europe and indeed across— of people across europe and indeed across the — of people across europe and indeed across the world, and instead of concentrating on more frontiers, more _ concentrating on more frontiers, more barbed wire, more surveillance and so _ more barbed wire, more surveillance and so on. _ more barbed wire, more surveillance and so on, notjust in this country but att— and so on, notjust in this country but all across europe, what we should — but all across europe, what we should be _ but all across europe, what we should be doing is looking at the causes _ should be doing is looking at the causes of— should be doing is looking at the causes of asylum in the first place? the environmental disasters, the wars: _ the environmental disasters, the wars, the — the environmental disasters, the wars, the abuses of human rights, the property. and what are we doing to ensure _ the property. and what are we doing to ensure that the european convention and the un conventions are actually adhered to and upheld? there _ are actually adhered to and upheld? there asylum seekers are desperate peopte _ there asylum seekers are desperate people trying to survive in this world — people trying to survive in this world. pushing them back is not a solution — world. pushing them back is not a solution it— world. pushing them back is not a solution. it is brutality that will io solution. it is brutality that will go down — solution. it is brutality that will go down in history as the brutal treatment— go down in history as the brutal treatment of desperate people at a desperate time. i think the right honourable gentleman for his comments, and first and foremost, there is a great deal of work, and ijust should emphasise this as well. his comments are really sort of put in, presented in a light that is quite unfair and and reflective of the work that takes place across government in terms of multilateral organisations, the global situations, humanitarian crisis leads to the placement, climate crisis leads to displacement, that is a fact of life. none of this is new and has existed for decades, that is why the international community does come together, whether it is in convening power, through the eu, through the un multilateral system. that is exactly how it works. but the reality is as well, madam deputy speaker, it is not the case that everyone that has come to this country illegally, whether it's in the back of lorries or small boats historically, are asylum seekers. well, when they had their rights existed and we tried to remove them, there are many barriers to removal, and that is effectively what the bill will address, and i appreciate the honourable gentleman in the corner doesn't want to support the bill, but at the same time, migrants are notjust in the hands of people smugglers. they are travelling through safe countries where there are functioning asylum seekers in these safe countries, where they could claim asylum, and of course, thatis could claim asylum, and of course, that is something that all international partners should be supporting and working to achieve. thank you, madam deputy speaker. didn't the honourable lady opposite put herfinger on the didn't the honourable lady opposite put her finger on the problem when she referred to afghanistan, where there are many legitimate asylum seekers who deserve to come here? and isn't the problem that if you have the fairest asylum seeking system in the world, a0 will form and there will always be some people who are not prepared to queue but want tojump to who are not prepared to queue but want to jump to the head of the queue? and therefore, isn't the only way to deter that to show not that they won't get across the channel, not that getting across the channel is terribly dangerous, but that if they do get across the channel and they do get across the channel and they have jumped the queue, they will be returned to another country? how can she secure that?— how can she secure that? well, i think i have _ how can she secure that? well, i think i have spoken _ how can she secure that? well, i think i have spoken in _ how can she secure that? well, i think i have spoken in this - how can she secure that? well, i think i have spoken in this house how can she secure that? well, i i think i have spoken in this house a few times now about returns of humans and the difficulties around getting bilateral returns agreements. i state again for the record that i have put the offer on the table, another offer to my french counterpart, today, which we will discuss. i'm very happy to discuss returns agreements with him. in the usual sense, but also to look at family reunions and children, unaccompanied asylum seeking children as well. we do not want to see children and family members be in the hands of traffickers, and having these established routes, and working with our partners to establish returns agreements, is absolutely the right thing to do. i have stated many times before with regards to eu countries, this is a matter that sits with the commission. it is a commission competence. there is a great deal of frustration amongst eu member states on this issue, which is why i will continue and am continuing to pursue my discussions with the commission for home affairs.— for home affairs. thank you. i hope she can confirm _ for home affairs. thank you. i hope she can confirm there _ for home affairs. thank you. i hope she can confirm there is _ for home affairs. thank you. i hope she can confirm there is no - for home affairs. thank you. i hope she can confirm there is no such i she can confirm there is no such thing _ she can confirm there is no such thing as— she can confirm there is no such thing as an _ she can confirm there is no such thing as an illegal asylum seeker. seeking _ thing as an illegal asylum seeker. seeking asylum is a human right, and when _ seeking asylum is a human right, and when she _ seeking asylum is a human right, and when she says that people should seek asylum in the first safe country— seek asylum in the first safe country that they come to, she can confirm _ country that they come to, she can confirm that — country that they come to, she can confirm that that's an aspect of the government's hostile environment policy— government's hostile environment policy and — government's hostile environment policy and not a legal or treating requirement in any international obligation. and on top of all of that, _ obligation. and on top of all of that, at— obligation. and on top of all of that, at what point can the uk ever be the _ that, at what point can the uk ever be the first— that, at what point can the uk ever be the first safe country, given that this — be the first safe country, given that this island is surrounded by water? — that this island is surrounded by water? what are the routes by which the uk _ water? what are the routes by which the uk can— water? what are the routes by which the uk can be the first safe country by which _ the uk can be the first safe country by which a — the uk can be the first safe country by which a displaced asylum seeker marias— by which a displaced asylum seeker marias yr? — marias yr? he - marias yr? he misses a fundamental manes yr? — he misses a fundamental point, about the asylum system and the whole issue about people who come to the country who are not actually genuine asylum seekers, who masquerade as in this asylum system. we do know and there are many cases, and i think there are many cases, and i think there has to be a recognition, this actually shows how to detach the honourable gentleman is from the real world, we cannot have a policy where we can accommodate everyone, and to pay back a bit of eu rhetoric back to him, the concept of burden share, which is why we seek to work with our counterparts and cooperate with our counterparts and cooperate with other countries and continue to work in a constructive manner around returns agreements. we also seek to change our laws so that individuals are not constantly using the appeals process and the uk legal aid system to frustrate the ability of the government to remove people from our country who have no legal basis to stay in our country. i really do think the honourable gentleman really misses the point, and in particular, at a time when we know that there is a major global migration crisis, we have to find collective solutions to this problem, and notjust take the ideological approach that the gentleman is taking.- ideological approach that the gentleman is taking. thank you. yesterday was _ gentleman is taking. thank you. yesterday was a _ gentleman is taking. thank you. yesterday was a very _ gentleman is taking. thank you. yesterday was a very sad - gentleman is taking. thank you. yesterday was a very sad day. l gentleman is taking. thank you. yesterday was a very sad day. i | yesterday was a very sad day. i think all of us will have been moved, seeing those reports, and for me, as i put my children to bed yesterday, ijust me, as i put my children to bed yesterday, i just thought about the conditions that that poor child went through. we cannot allow this situation to be exploited by those pushing an anti—immigration agenda. i welcome the home secretary saying she will look at all options that she will look at all options that she is having those discussions in terms of operational and diplomatic, to bring down those people smugglers, and i welcome her commenting that looking at safe routes, but we'll see please look at may be another option in terms of providing humanitarian visas so that people do not have to get on these boats? they are seeking safety and refuge for their families. that's another option the home secretary could look at. there are also lots of options that we could look at. that is why i am bringing forward the bill.- bringing forward the bill. thank ou. the bringing forward the bill. thank you. the tragedy _ bringing forward the bill. thank you. the tragedy in _ bringing forward the bill. thank you. the tragedy in the - bringing forward the bill. thankj you. the tragedy in the channel draws into sharp focus and issue that we are aware of the home secretary's intentions. it is a system gained by traffickers. we need to disrupt those criminal gangs, offshore processing of claims and turn it round buts and the channel, as the law allows us to do. for people who voted to take back control have every right to ask the question, if you cannot protect the integrity of the borders, what can you? i integrity of the borders, what can ou? . ~ , integrity of the borders, what can ou? ., ,, , ., ., .,, you? i thank my right honourable friend for his _ you? i thank my right honourable friend for his comments. - you? i thank my right honourable friend for his comments. you - you? i thank my right honourable friend for his comments. you willj friend for his comments. you will know within the bill as well, off shoring, third country, these are options that are under consideration. he is right in terms of the principal point that he makes, which is why we are determined and we will notjust stop and cease with the measures we have already announced, we look to enhance some of the measures at well. the state of crisis we are seeing with global migration issues right now and the appalling loss of life and death we have seen, it is incumbent on everyone, governments and law enforcement, border controls, all the various agencies to come together to stop this awful trade in human trafficking. mar; to come together to stop this awful trade in human trafficking. magi trade in human trafficking. may i thank the home _ trade in human trafficking. may i thank the home secretary - trade in human trafficking. may i thank the home secretary for . trade in human trafficking. i—i thank the home secretary for the content and the tone with which she has delivered her statement today. the she agreed with me that dealing with these criminal gangs of people smugglers we are dealing with every sense of the modern day equivalent of the slave traders of europe, and will she ensure the full force and diligence of the intelligence services and security services, working with their counterparts, are brought together to tackle this terrible challenge and to prevent further such tragedies as we saw yesterday, come my right honourable friend see any reason to object processing asylum claims at all british embassies so those who have a successful claim, the significant majority of those arriving by boat, can come here any illegal and humane way once asylum has been granted, rather than risking the lives just to file paperwork in the first place? to file paperwork in the first lace? ~ , to file paperwork in the first lace? ~y ., ., .,, to file paperwork in the first lace? g ., ., , place? my honourable friend makes im ortant place? my honourable friend makes important and _ place? my honourable friend makes important and valuable _ place? my honourable friend makes important and valuable points. - important and valuable points. people know i do agree with him we are seeing what is now a modern day slave trade. there is no question about that. the full force of our intelligence, security, law enforcement partners and agencies, notjust in the uk or france, but upstream, and my right honourable friend will note the footprint the government has in places like africa as well, where there is a great deal of work that takes place to stop smuggling of people and the human trafficking that is taking place. in terms of processing outside of the united kingdom, this is very much part of the process that we are looking at now in terms of safe handling but also creating the right parameters and working with the humanitarian aid agencies who have led much of the safe resettlement schemes around the world.- led much of the safe resettlement schemes around the world. thank you. ma i add schemes around the world. thank you. may i add my — schemes around the world. thank you. may i add my voice _ schemes around the world. thank you. may i add my voice to _ schemes around the world. thank you. may i add my voice to those _ schemes around the world. thank you. may i add my voice to those sending i may i add my voice to those sending their condolences to the families of loved ones of those who died in this unspeakable tragedy. last night i tuned into the bbc ten o'clock news to get the latest on this terrible disaster and i was absolutely appalled when the presenter informed me that around 30 migrants had drowned. madam deputy speaker, migrants don't drown. people drown, men, women and children drown. will the secretary of state joining me in asking the bbc news editorial team and other news outlet thinking of using that term on reflecting on using that term on reflecting on using that term on reflecting on using that use on such dehumanising language and give these people the respect they deserve? in language and give these people the respect they deserve?— respect they deserve? in terms of ian . ua . e respect they deserve? in terms of language that _ respect they deserve? in terms of language that is — respect they deserve? in terms of language that is used, _ respect they deserve? in terms of language that is used, we - respect they deserve? in terms of language that is used, we see - respect they deserve? in terms of language that is used, we see a l respect they deserve? in terms of l language that is used, we see a lot, we hear a lot and even during the afghanistan operations i heard a lot of language that seem to be inappropriate around people who are fleeing. yes, iwill.— fleeing. yes, iwill. thank you. i think people _ fleeing. yes, iwill. thank you. i think people in _ fleeing. yes, iwill. thank you. i think people in whickham - fleeing. yes, iwill. thank you. i think people in whickham would expect the government to act with absolute resolve to get a grip of this problem. but also compassion to save life and look after people. can she reassure me that is her policy, to look after people, but get a grip of this problem? i to look after people, but get a grip of this problem?— of this problem? i reassure my honourable _ of this problem? i reassure my honourable friend _ of this problem? i reassure my honourable friend not - of this problem? i reassure my honourable friend notjust - of this problem? i reassure my| honourable friend notjust on... of this problem? i reassure my i honourable friend notjust on... it is not a grip in terms of the approach we are taking, the use of word grip makes me think about language and it is quite a simplistic term when you think about the complexity of the issue. it is a very complicated issue and it requires action around a plethora of areas. but humanity and decency is absolutely crucial and without labouring the point, this does come back to how people are treated when they come to our country, how we accommodate them and how we support them. and this is what we want to change any nationalising borders bill. we can do better. 0ur change any nationalising borders bill. we can do better. our system is broken and it is incumbent we apply skills, and knowledge to provide a better system. thank you. it is truly heartbreaking _ provide a better system. thank you. it is truly heartbreaking to _ provide a better system. thank you. it is truly heartbreaking to think- it is truly heartbreaking to think of the lives, the hopes, the talents extinguished by the sea in their journey to our shores. a journey the home secretary characterises as are necessary. can i gently say to her that when men, women and children get into the boat clearly did not think so. we see more boats arriving today. forthe think so. we see more boats arriving today. for the home secretary acknowledge that her policies are not working? and that vulnerable people are paying the price and that what we need is safe, secure and fair routes into this country and she has failed to put them in place. in response to the honourable lady, thatis in response to the honourable lady, that is what the nationalising borders bill does.— that is what the nationalising borders bill does. thank you. i su ort borders bill does. thank you. i support my — borders bill does. thank you. i support my right _ borders bill does. thank you. i support my right honourable i borders bill does. thank you. i - support my right honourable friend and pursuing all long—term options, including offshore processing, which i think will play an important part. which she agreed with me that in the short term we will see more tragedies like this unless we can agree a strategy with the french? it is within the gift of the president of france to bring this to an end now. that will require more action but it must be in our mutual interests because the more people who cross the more people will come to france. . , who cross the more people will come to france. ., , . to france. that is right. hence the discussion — to france. that is right. hence the discussion that _ to france. that is right. hence the discussion that took _ to france. that is right. hence the discussion that took place - to france. that is right. hence the | discussion that took place between the prime minister and president macron last night. we have been forthright in making these points to our counterparts in france over the last two years. the offers, you have heard the offers we have put forward, the whole machinery of the french government. we encourage them and urge them to take this on board. they may not be perfect. that is not the point. we need to deploy every single tool that we have to save life and prevent loss of life. that is what this effectively is now about. . ~ is what this effectively is now about. ., ~' , ., is what this effectively is now about. ., ,, ., is what this effectively is now about. ., ., , , , about. thank you, madam deputy seaker. about. thank you, madam deputy speaker- this _ about. thank you, madam deputy speaker. this is _ about. thank you, madam deputy speaker. this is absolutely - about. thank you, madam deputy speaker. this is absolutely tragic. 27 people, including children and pregnant women desperate for a safe were killed while being exploited. it is nothing short of murder. the foreign secretary ? make the foreign affairs select committee declared two years ago that closing down safe routes puts people into the hands of people smugglers. will she immediately withdraw her dangerous nationality and borders bill, which doesjust that, and provide nationality and borders bill, which does just that, and provide a safe routes of passage to avoid more tragedies. routes of passage to avoid more tracedies. . , . routes of passage to avoid more tracedies. ., , ., , tragedies. that is what the bill does. m tragedies. that is what the bill does- my right _ tragedies. that is what the bill does. my right honourable - tragedies. that is what the bill i does. my right honourable friend said at the _ does. my right honourable friend said at the end _ does. my right honourable friend said at the end of _ does. my right honourable friend said at the end of her _ does. my right honourable friend said at the end of her statement| said at the end of her statement that crossing the channel in a small boat is illegal. it isn't illegal, as that was confirmed by the crown prosecution service on the 8th of july. what would make it illegal would be passing into law by illegal immigration offences bill, which is due for a second reading tomorrow. i should be grateful of my right honourable friend could agree to meet me to discuss the contents of that bill and how that will contribute to what we all want to see, which is an end to this violent trade. i see, which is an end to this violent trade. ~ , see, which is an end to this violent trade. ~' , ., ., trade. i think there is more that needs to be _ trade. i think there is more that needs to be done. _ trade. i think there is more that needs to be done. ministers - trade. i think there is more that| needs to be done. ministers will trade. i think there is more that. needs to be done. ministers will be happy to meet the right honourable gentleman. happy to meet the right honourable rentleman. . ~ happy to meet the right honourable rentleman. ., ,, , ., happy to meet the right honourable rentleman. ., ,, i. ., happy to meet the right honourable rentleman. ., ., , , , gentleman. thank you, madam deputy seaker. on gentleman. thank you, madam deputy speaker. on monday, _ gentleman. thank you, madam deputy speaker. on monday, i— gentleman. thank you, madam deputy speaker. on monday, i shared - gentleman. thank you, madam deputy speaker. on monday, i shared my- speaker. on monday, ishared my concerns with the home secretary that the french authorities potentially are turning a blind eye to some of the activities going on in the northern coast of france, putting some of the most vulnerable people at risk. sadly, that tragedy was yesterday. it is encouraging to see that five people were arrested overnight. those five people who were active yesterday, last week, last month and probably last year. i recognise the diplomacy that is required. can i urge my right honourable friend to use every effort to bring the new—found urgency together to work across government, cross authority to ensure that all action, or possible action, is taken to combat the actions of these people smugglers. he is absolutely right. arrests have been made. it is not for me to comment of the detail in terms of the type of arrests and work that is taking place. let me assure the right honourable friend in the house, certainly for the last year the level of intelligence sharing in the level of intelligence sharing in the uk and in france, and further than france as well, because we do go much further than france on intelligence sharing, has been absolutely pivotal to arrest and convictions and smashing up gangs. there has been in a lot of outstanding and good work that has taken place. i think my right honourable friend on monday alluded to a case last week when an albanian criminal was prosecuted. so there is a lot of work that takes place. i have to say, these outcomes are not always reported. but collectively there have been some very, very arrest and prosecution. i there have been some very, very arrest and prosecution.— arrest and prosecution. i believe koestler has _ arrest and prosecution. i believe koestler has written _ arrest and prosecution. i believe koestler has written to - arrest and prosecution. i believe koestler has written to the - arrest and prosecution. i believe| koestler has written to the home secretary requesting a urgent meeting. i would urge her to take up that offer so she can have a few home truths about the situation relate to her. does she agree that now is also the time in the face of this appalling tragedy to stop talking about this as simply being a french uk issue, and instead address it as an international, global issue and that it is vital that disputes over northern ireland and fishing are treated entirely separately from working together to find a joint solution? i take issue with the comments from the honourable lady. first of all, for her information, the immigration minister met on monday and his ashes did not come up. secondly, when it comes to the issue of migration, i have never said that it is a uk fan france issue, i have said it is a global issue. there is no point pointing to my colleagues. she is addressing the question to me. i have always said and maintain it as a global crisis and maintain it as a global crisis and actually i have been proactive in speaking to my counterparts across eu states and other countries. i have even hosted meetings with them as well. i think having that context is equally as important. having that context is equally as im ortant. , , .,, having that context is equally as imortant. , , ., , important. this is the most awful tra . ed important. this is the most awful tragedy and _ important. this is the most awful tragedy and l _ important. this is the most awful tragedy and i would _ important. this is the most awful tragedy and i would like - important. this is the most awful tragedy and i would like to - important. this is the most awful tragedy and i would like to add i important. this is the most awful. tragedy and i would like to add my condolences to all those who have been affected. it is right to say, isn't it, that the home office has failed to get a grip of this issue forfar too long. in a week failed to get a grip of this issue for far too long. in a week when the home affairs select committee has recommended that the windrush compensation scheme should be removed from the home office because of issues of competency, isn't it now time that this matter should also be removed from the home office, given to the cabinet office and they should be a cross government response? for and they should be a cross government response? and they should be a cross covernment resonse? ., , government response? for the benefit ofthe government response? for the benefit of the house. — government response? for the benefit of the house, there _ government response? for the benefit of the house, there is _ government response? for the benefit of the house, there is a _ government response? for the benefit of the house, there is a cross - of the house, there is a cross government response to this. whilst we don't know _ government response to this. whilst we don't know the _ government response to this. whilst we don't know the details _ government response to this. whilst we don't know the details are - we don't know the details are nationalities of those that sadly lost their lives in the channel yesterday, we do note that a very large numbers of people who are refugees from the oppressive, brutal regime in iran are desperately seeking to cross the channel to come to this country. can she look at the example that has been set by the albanian governments who moved satisfactorily from iran and it is a model of how to treat people who are refugees in the closest country possible to the iranian border. that thatis possible to the iranian border. that that is how we set up the camps for people fleeing from those regimes, rather than being forced to take this perilous journey. rather than being forced to take this perilousjourney. my honourable friend makes what is a highly, highly relevant and important point. at times of crisis of global migration, and if we think back to 2014, 2015, our policy and approach and internationally supportive as well was to keep people within the region. i am well was to keep people within the region. iam referring well was to keep people within the region. i am referring to the syrian crisis where we worked with counterparts and we are still working with counterparts injordan and other countries in the region. there is a great deal of work that took place. but the sadness of all of this all i can say is the british government and i are working night and day to recognise that no one country can solve this on their own and that is why we need stronger cooperation across the board to address these issues together. the eo - le address these issues together. the --eole of address these issues together. tie: people of east kent are address these issues together. ti9 people of east kent are qualified and deeply upset by what the chief rabbi this morning called an unspeakable tragedy happening on our shores. we should be ashamed also that amongst the dead was a soldier who served alongside british armed forces personnel and reportedly felt

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it should work. that is why i am working with partners on this. i think it is such a shame, actually, that once again the snp, a party that once again the snp, a party that has failed to support asylum seekers in their own local authorities, madam deputy speaker, 31 out of 32 local authorities... they may sit there and yell shame at me but 31 out of 32 local authorities do not participate in the voluntary dispersal scheme for housing asylum seekers. there is an inconsistency here, if i may say so, inconsistency here, if i may say so, in their approach. i am in agreement on the need for safe legal writs. we will do it properly, while we recognise the type of instability and uncertainty and persecution that people that need to claim asylum i'm not getting and we will change it. thank you madam deputy speaker. i think the house knows that my right honourable friend has strained every sinew since her first day imposed to prevent the sort of tragedies we saw in the last 204i was. she and my right honourable friend are also right honourable friend are also right to point of the pan—european nature of this problem. for example, frontex have quadrupled their surveillance of the mediterranean alone in the past year. and she has identified our ongoing cooperation with the french is central in this. can she tell the house what additional measures she has offered the french to help crack down on these evil gangs and curb this deadly trade? he makes some very important points and also mentions frontex. the role of frontex, to see how they have accelerated surveillance, but even border patrols, they are even, madam deputy speaker, supporting activity in the mediterranean in terms of supporting boats entering territorial waters illegally as well, and i have seen theirs patrols myself, so it is a complete myth and fallacy to say that we should not look at all options. we are, and we will continue to do so. but in terms of measures offered to france, absolutely. i have often would ask them today for an honest assessment in terms of their own numbers and beaches, whether or not there are gaps, if more officers are needed, a realistic assessment in terms of the number of migrants that are coming through from belgium in particular, and the minister specifically mentions the pressures from that border and the boats, and the fatalities yesterday, the boats came from dunkirk, so clearly there are more flows there. but absolutely, more flows there. but absolutely, more police officers, more intelligence cooperation, more on technology. we have put forward a very significant technology offer which does include enhanced surveillance, anp are, on the roads coming up to the beaches, and we have also offered to put more officers, unwarranted, because they will not take warranted offices. but these are things i will be working to very specifically now. because the status quo cannot persist. i think there is a full understanding of this on the french side, and as i would say to the house, the one thing we absolutely are is a government, we are incredibly propositional to france in particular. we have defined joint solutions and if that means actually doing more with france and persuading them to take on more support, we will absolutely strain every sinew to do so. thank you, madam deputy speaker. our hearts_ thank you, madam deputy speaker. our hearts go— thank you, madam deputy speaker. our hearts go out all those affected by yesterdayterrible tragedy. but there was already deep concern in my constituency about the government's approach _ constituency about the government's approach to protecting men, women and children seeking refuge in the uk, and _ and children seeking refuge in the uk, and i— and children seeking refuge in the uk, and i also have many constituents with family members in fear of— constituents with family members in fear of their lives and seeking to escape _ fear of their lives and seeking to escape afghanistan following the taliban _ escape afghanistan following the taliban takeover. a new resettlement pathway _ taliban takeover. a new resettlement pathway for vulnerable afghans was announced in august, but three months — announced in august, but three months later, we still don't know when _ months later, we still don't know when the — months later, we still don't know when the afghan citizens resettlement scheme will be operational, or how those outside the uk _ operational, or how those outside the uk witt— operational, or how those outside the uk will be able to access it. can the — the uk will be able to access it. can the home secretary tell us today? — can the home secretary tell us toda ? ., ., ., , ., , can the home secretary tell us toda ? ., ., ., , , today? the honourable lady makes very important _ today? the honourable lady makes very important points _ today? the honourable lady makes very important points about - today? the honourable lady makes very important points about the - very important points about the afghan resettlement scheme, which was announced in august at the time of great crisis. my honourable friend the minister for the afghan resettlement scheme will be updating colleagues in due course on this. i would however like to just emphasise to colleagues, with operation pit in, we evacuated 15,000 people. we are still in the process of trying to resettle them, and in terms of resettling more people from afghanistan, and i know the cases are coming through, and across government it is fcd air mod with the cases that are still being carried through, we need to make sure we can again bring people forward and bring people forward, that we can get settled, rather than what we have seen sadly, and we are very adamant about this as well, being put into hotels in inadequate accommodation, and we need them in the community. what an appalling and entirely foreseeable tragedy. will the home secretary agree with me that we cannot wait on her excellent bill, we cannot wait on the french cooperating with us in taking these poor people back, as they should. we have two act now in a national emergency to save lives. there are only two countries in the world who have solved this problem. australia, which has an offshore processing centre, and greece, that does push back. we have to be tough. we have two face down the human rights lawyers. if governments are weak, people die. just in response to my right honourable friend's colleagues... i echo his frustration fully. —— comments. in terms of toughness, i have been very clear, and i know this does upset some right honourable and honourable members in this house. i have not ruled everything out, and i put every option on the table, notjust with france, but without the counterparts. greece in terms of push backs, they have special forces. they use their military and coast guard and they used frontex as well, just for the record, for this house. as i said, i have seen that. they also have a programme of reception centres which my right honourable friend will know and is aware of are part of the new plan immigration is welcome in terms of how we have immigration, how we deal with the casework processing as well. the fact of the matter is, there is no one silver bullet solution to this, and i know he understands this and i know my colleagues do as well. that is why the new pathway for immigration is important in the nationalising borders bill. the members will hear shortly about the progress of that bill coming back in the house and its next stages. it is an important piece of legislation because it will set the direction of travel and importantly, give the government more powers to actually be much, much firmer and will end many of the pull factors that have existed for too long, and actually have helped too long, and actually have helped to facilitate and encourage illegal migration. thank you, madam deputy speaker. does the _ thank you, madam deputy speaker. does the home secretary except that the only— does the home secretary except that the only way in which people traffickers and gangs can operate is because _ traffickers and gangs can operate is because of— traffickers and gangs can operate is because of the absolute desperation of people _ because of the absolute desperation of people across europe and indeed across— of people across europe and indeed across the — of people across europe and indeed across the world, and instead of concentrating on more frontiers, more _ concentrating on more frontiers, more barbed wire, more surveillance and so _ more barbed wire, more surveillance and so on. _ more barbed wire, more surveillance and so on, notjust in this country but att— and so on, notjust in this country but all across europe, what we should — but all across europe, what we should be _ but all across europe, what we should be doing is looking at the causes _ should be doing is looking at the causes of— should be doing is looking at the causes of asylum in the first place? the environmental disasters, the wars: _ the environmental disasters, the wars, the — the environmental disasters, the wars, the abuses of human rights, the property. and what are we doing to ensure _ the property. and what are we doing to ensure that the european convention and the un conventions are actually adhered to and upheld? there _ are actually adhered to and upheld? there asylum seekers are desperate peopte _ there asylum seekers are desperate people trying to survive in this world — people trying to survive in this world. pushing them back is not a solution — world. pushing them back is not a solution it— world. pushing them back is not a solution. it is brutality that will io solution. it is brutality that will go down — solution. it is brutality that will go down in history as the brutal treatment— go down in history as the brutal treatment of desperate people at a desperate time. i think the right honourable gentleman for his comments, and first and foremost, there is a great deal of work, and ijust should emphasise this as well. his comments are really sort of put in, presented in a light that is quite unfair and and reflective of the work that takes place across government in terms of multilateral organisations, the global situations, humanitarian crisis leads to the placement, climate crisis leads to displacement, that is a fact of life. none of this is new and has existed for decades, that is why the international community does come together, whether it is in convening power, through the eu, through the un multilateral system. that is exactly how it works. but the reality is as well, madam deputy speaker, it is not the case that everyone that has come to this country illegally, whether it's in the back of lorries or small boats historically, are asylum seekers. well, when they had their rights existed and we tried to remove them, there are many barriers to removal, and that is effectively what the bill will address, and i appreciate the honourable gentleman in the corner doesn't want to support the bill, but at the same time, migrants are notjust in the hands of people smugglers. they are travelling through safe countries where there are functioning asylum seekers in these safe countries, where they could claim asylum, and of course, thatis could claim asylum, and of course, that is something that all international partners should be supporting and working to achieve. thank you, madam deputy speaker. didn't the honourable lady opposite put herfinger on the didn't the honourable lady opposite put her finger on the problem when she referred to afghanistan, where there are many legitimate asylum seekers who deserve to come here? and isn't the problem that if you have the fairest asylum seeking system in the world, a0 will form and there will always be some people who are not prepared to queue but want tojump to who are not prepared to queue but want to jump to the head of the queue? and therefore, isn't the only way to deter that to show not that they won't get across the channel, not that getting across the channel is terribly dangerous, but that if they do get across the channel and they do get across the channel and they have jumped the queue, they will be returned to another country? how can she secure that?— how can she secure that? well, i think i have _ how can she secure that? well, i think i have spoken _ how can she secure that? well, i think i have spoken in _ how can she secure that? well, i think i have spoken in this - how can she secure that? well, i think i have spoken in this house how can she secure that? well, i i think i have spoken in this house a few times now about returns of humans and the difficulties around getting bilateral returns agreements. i state again for the record that i have put the offer on the table, another offer to my french counterpart, today, which we will discuss. i'm very happy to discuss returns agreements with him. in the usual sense, but also to look at family reunions and children, unaccompanied asylum seeking children as well. we do not want to see children and family members be in the hands of traffickers, and having these established routes, and working with our partners to establish returns agreements, is absolutely the right thing to do. i have stated many times before with regards to eu countries, this is a matter that sits with the commission. it is a commission competence. there is a great deal of frustration amongst eu member states on this issue, which is why i will continue and am continuing to pursue my discussions with the commission for home affairs.— for home affairs. thank you. i hope she can confirm _ for home affairs. thank you. i hope she can confirm there _ for home affairs. thank you. i hope she can confirm there is _ for home affairs. thank you. i hope she can confirm there is no - for home affairs. thank you. i hope she can confirm there is no such i she can confirm there is no such thing _ she can confirm there is no such thing as— she can confirm there is no such thing as an _ she can confirm there is no such thing as an illegal asylum seeker. seeking _ thing as an illegal asylum seeker. seeking asylum is a human right, and when _ seeking asylum is a human right, and when she _ seeking asylum is a human right, and when she says that people should seek asylum in the first safe country— seek asylum in the first safe country that they come to, she can confirm _ country that they come to, she can confirm that — country that they come to, she can confirm that that's an aspect of the government's hostile environment policy— government's hostile environment policy and — government's hostile environment policy and not a legal or treating requirement in any international obligation. and on top of all of that, _ obligation. and on top of all of that, at— obligation. and on top of all of that, at what point can the uk ever be the _ that, at what point can the uk ever be the first— that, at what point can the uk ever be the first safe country, given that this — be the first safe country, given that this island is surrounded by water? — that this island is surrounded by water? what are the routes by which the uk _ water? what are the routes by which the uk can— water? what are the routes by which the uk can be the first safe country by which _ the uk can be the first safe country by which a — the uk can be the first safe country by which a displaced asylum seeker marias— by which a displaced asylum seeker marias yr? — marias yr? he - marias yr? he misses a fundamental manes yr? — he misses a fundamental point, about the asylum system and the whole issue about people who come to the country who are not actually genuine asylum seekers, who masquerade as in this asylum system. we do know and there are many cases, and i think there are many cases, and i think there has to be a recognition, this actually shows how to detach the honourable gentleman is from the real world, we cannot have a policy where we can accommodate everyone, and to pay back a bit of eu rhetoric back to him, the concept of burden share, which is why we seek to work with our counterparts and cooperate with our counterparts and cooperate with other countries and continue to work in a constructive manner around returns agreements. we also seek to change our laws so that individuals are not constantly using the appeals process and the uk legal aid system to frustrate the ability of the government to remove people from our country who have no legal basis to stay in our country. i really do think the honourable gentleman really misses the point, and in particular, at a time when we know that there is a major global migration crisis, we have to find collective solutions to this problem, and notjust take the ideological approach that the gentleman is taking.- ideological approach that the gentleman is taking. thank you. yesterday was _ gentleman is taking. thank you. yesterday was a _ gentleman is taking. thank you. yesterday was a very _ gentleman is taking. thank you. yesterday was a very sad - gentleman is taking. thank you. yesterday was a very sad day. l gentleman is taking. thank you. yesterday was a very sad day. i | yesterday was a very sad day. i think all of us will have been moved, seeing those reports, and for me, as i put my children to bed yesterday, ijust me, as i put my children to bed yesterday, i just thought about the conditions that that poor child went through. we cannot allow this situation to be exploited by those pushing an anti—immigration agenda. i welcome the home secretary saying she will look at all options that she will look at all options that she is having those discussions in terms of operational and diplomatic, to bring down those people smugglers, and i welcome her commenting that looking at safe routes, but we'll see please look at may be another option in terms of providing humanitarian visas so that people do not have to get on these boats? they are seeking safety and refuge for their families. that's another option the home secretary could look at. there are also lots of options that we could look at. that is why i am bringing forward the bill.- bringing forward the bill. thank ou. the bringing forward the bill. thank you. the tragedy _ bringing forward the bill. thank you. the tragedy in _ bringing forward the bill. thank you. the tragedy in the - bringing forward the bill. thankj you. the tragedy in the channel draws into sharp focus and issue that we are aware of the home secretary's intentions. it is a system gained by traffickers. we need to disrupt those criminal gangs, offshore processing of claims and turn it round buts and the channel, as the law allows us to do. for people who voted to take back control have every right to ask the question, if you cannot protect the integrity of the borders, what can you? i integrity of the borders, what can ou? . ~ , integrity of the borders, what can ou? ., ,, , ., ., .,, you? i thank my right honourable friend for his _ you? i thank my right honourable friend for his comments. - you? i thank my right honourable friend for his comments. you - you? i thank my right honourable friend for his comments. you willj friend for his comments. you will know within the bill as well, off shoring, third country, these are options that are under consideration. he is right in terms of the principal point that he makes, which is why we are determined and we will notjust stop and cease with the measures we have already announced, we look to enhance some of the measures at well. the state of crisis we are seeing with global migration issues right now and the appalling loss of life and death we have seen, it is incumbent on everyone, governments and law enforcement, border controls, all the various agencies to come together to stop this awful trade in human trafficking. mar; to come together to stop this awful trade in human trafficking. magi trade in human trafficking. may i thank the home _ trade in human trafficking. may i thank the home secretary - trade in human trafficking. may i thank the home secretary for . trade in human trafficking. i—i thank the home secretary for the content and the tone with which she has delivered her statement today. the she agreed with me that dealing with these criminal gangs of people smugglers we are dealing with every sense of the modern day equivalent of the slave traders of europe, and will she ensure the full force and diligence of the intelligence services and security services, working with their counterparts, are brought together to tackle this terrible challenge and to prevent further such tragedies as we saw yesterday, come my right honourable friend see any reason to object processing asylum claims at all british embassies so those who have a successful claim, the significant majority of those arriving by boat, can come here any illegal and humane way once asylum has been granted, rather than risking the lives just to file paperwork in the first place? to file paperwork in the first lace? ~ , to file paperwork in the first lace? ~y ., ., .,, to file paperwork in the first lace? g ., ., , place? my honourable friend makes im ortant place? my honourable friend makes important and _ place? my honourable friend makes important and valuable _ place? my honourable friend makes important and valuable points. - important and valuable points. people know i do agree with him we are seeing what is now a modern day slave trade. there is no question about that. the full force of our intelligence, security, law enforcement partners and agencies, notjust in the uk or france, but upstream, and my right honourable friend will note the footprint the government has in places like africa as well, where there is a great deal of work that takes place to stop smuggling of people and the human trafficking that is taking place. in terms of processing outside of the united kingdom, this is very much part of the process that we are looking at now in terms of safe handling but also creating the right parameters and working with the humanitarian aid agencies who have led much of the safe resettlement schemes around the world.- led much of the safe resettlement schemes around the world. thank you. ma i add schemes around the world. thank you. may i add my — schemes around the world. thank you. may i add my voice _ schemes around the world. thank you. may i add my voice to _ schemes around the world. thank you. may i add my voice to those _ schemes around the world. thank you. may i add my voice to those sending i may i add my voice to those sending their condolences to the families of loved ones of those who died in this unspeakable tragedy. last night i tuned into the bbc ten o'clock news to get the latest on this terrible disaster and i was absolutely appalled when the presenter informed me that around 30 migrants had drowned. madam deputy speaker, migrants don't drown. people drown, men, women and children drown. will the secretary of state joining me in asking the bbc news editorial team and other news outlet thinking of using that term on reflecting on using that term on reflecting on using that term on reflecting on using that use on such dehumanising language and give these people the respect they deserve? in language and give these people the respect they deserve?— respect they deserve? in terms of ian . ua . e respect they deserve? in terms of language that _ respect they deserve? in terms of language that is — respect they deserve? in terms of language that is used, _ respect they deserve? in terms of language that is used, we - respect they deserve? in terms of language that is used, we see - respect they deserve? in terms of language that is used, we see a l respect they deserve? in terms of l language that is used, we see a lot, we hear a lot and even during the afghanistan operations i heard a lot of language that seem to be inappropriate around people who are fleeing. yes, iwill.— fleeing. yes, iwill. thank you. i think people _ fleeing. yes, iwill. thank you. i think people in _ fleeing. yes, iwill. thank you. i think people in whickham - fleeing. yes, iwill. thank you. i think people in whickham would expect the government to act with absolute resolve to get a grip of this problem. but also compassion to save life and look after people. can she reassure me that is her policy, to look after people, but get a grip of this problem? i to look after people, but get a grip of this problem?— of this problem? i reassure my honourable _ of this problem? i reassure my honourable friend _ of this problem? i reassure my honourable friend not - of this problem? i reassure my honourable friend notjust - of this problem? i reassure my| honourable friend notjust on... of this problem? i reassure my i honourable friend notjust on... it is not a grip in terms of the approach we are taking, the use of word grip makes me think about language and it is quite a simplistic term when you think about the complexity of the issue. it is a very complicated issue and it requires action around a plethora of areas. but humanity and decency is absolutely crucial and without labouring the point, this does come back to how people are treated when they come to our country, how we accommodate them and how we support them. and this is what we want to change any nationalising borders bill. we can do better. 0ur change any nationalising borders bill. we can do better. our system is broken and it is incumbent we apply skills, and knowledge to provide a better system. thank you. it is truly heartbreaking _ provide a better system. thank you. it is truly heartbreaking to _ provide a better system. thank you. it is truly heartbreaking to think- it is truly heartbreaking to think of the lives, the hopes, the talents extinguished by the sea in their journey to our shores. a journey the home secretary characterises as are necessary. can i gently say to her that when men, women and children get into the boat clearly did not think so. we see more boats arriving today. forthe think so. we see more boats arriving today. for the home secretary acknowledge that her policies are not working? and that vulnerable people are paying the price and that what we need is safe, secure and fair routes into this country and she has failed to put them in place. in response to the honourable lady, thatis in response to the honourable lady, that is what the nationalising borders bill does.— that is what the nationalising borders bill does. thank you. i su ort borders bill does. thank you. i support my — borders bill does. thank you. i support my right _ borders bill does. thank you. i support my right honourable i borders bill does. thank you. i - support my right honourable friend and pursuing all long—term options, including offshore processing, which i think will play an important part. which she agreed with me that in the short term we will see more tragedies like this unless we can agree a strategy with the french? it is within the gift of the president of france to bring this to an end now. that will require more action but it must be in our mutual interests because the more people who cross the more people will come to france. . , who cross the more people will come to france. ., , . to france. that is right. hence the discussion — to france. that is right. hence the discussion that _ to france. that is right. hence the discussion that took _ to france. that is right. hence the discussion that took place - to france. that is right. hence the | discussion that took place between the prime minister and president macron last night. we have been forthright in making these points to our counterparts in france over the last two years. the offers, you have heard the offers we have put forward, the whole machinery of the french government. we encourage them and urge them to take this on board. they may not be perfect. that is not the point. we need to deploy every single tool that we have to save life and prevent loss of life. that is what this effectively is now about. . ~ is what this effectively is now about. ., ~' , ., is what this effectively is now about. ., ,, ., is what this effectively is now about. ., ., , , , about. thank you, madam deputy seaker. about. thank you, madam deputy speaker- this _ about. thank you, madam deputy speaker. this is _ about. thank you, madam deputy speaker. this is absolutely - about. thank you, madam deputy speaker. this is absolutely tragic. 27 people, including children and pregnant women desperate for a safe were killed while being exploited. it is nothing short of murder. the foreign secretary ? make the foreign affairs select committee declared two years ago that closing down safe routes puts people into the hands of people smugglers. will she immediately withdraw her dangerous nationality and borders bill, which doesjust that, and provide nationality and borders bill, which does just that, and provide a safe routes of passage to avoid more tragedies. routes of passage to avoid more tracedies. . , . routes of passage to avoid more tracedies. ., , ., , tragedies. that is what the bill does. m tragedies. that is what the bill does- my right _ tragedies. that is what the bill does. my right honourable - tragedies. that is what the bill i does. my right honourable friend said at the _ does. my right honourable friend said at the end _ does. my right honourable friend said at the end of _ does. my right honourable friend said at the end of her _ does. my right honourable friend said at the end of her statement| said at the end of her statement that crossing the channel in a small boat is illegal. it isn't illegal, as that was confirmed by the crown prosecution service on the 8th of july. what would make it illegal would be passing into law by illegal immigration offences bill, which is due for a second reading tomorrow. i should be grateful of my right honourable friend could agree to meet me to discuss the contents of that bill and how that will contribute to what we all want to see, which is an end to this violent trade. i see, which is an end to this violent trade. ~ , see, which is an end to this violent trade. ~' , ., ., trade. i think there is more that needs to be _ trade. i think there is more that needs to be done. _ trade. i think there is more that needs to be done. ministers - trade. i think there is more that| needs to be done. ministers will trade. i think there is more that. needs to be done. ministers will be happy to meet the right honourable gentleman. happy to meet the right honourable rentleman. . ~ happy to meet the right honourable rentleman. ., ,, , ., happy to meet the right honourable rentleman. ., ,, i. ., happy to meet the right honourable rentleman. ., ., , , , gentleman. thank you, madam deputy seaker. on gentleman. thank you, madam deputy speaker. on monday, _ gentleman. thank you, madam deputy speaker. on monday, i— gentleman. thank you, madam deputy speaker. on monday, i shared - gentleman. thank you, madam deputy speaker. on monday, i shared my- speaker. on monday, ishared my concerns with the home secretary that the french authorities potentially are turning a blind eye to some of the activities going on in the northern coast of france, putting some of the most vulnerable people at risk. sadly, that tragedy was yesterday. it is encouraging to see that five people were arrested overnight. those five people who were active yesterday, last week, last month and probably last year. i recognise the diplomacy that is required. can i urge my right honourable friend to use every effort to bring the new—found urgency together to work across government, cross authority to ensure that all action, or possible action, is taken to combat the actions of these people smugglers. he is absolutely right. arrests have been made. it is not for me to comment of the detail in terms of the type of arrests and work that is taking place. let me assure the right honourable friend in the house, certainly for the last year the level of intelligence sharing in the level of intelligence sharing in the uk and in france, and further than france as well, because we do go much further than france on intelligence sharing, has been absolutely pivotal to arrest and convictions and smashing up gangs. there has been in a lot of outstanding and good work that has taken place. i think my right honourable friend on monday alluded to a case last week when an albanian criminal was prosecuted. so there is a lot of work that takes place. i have to say, these outcomes are not always reported. but collectively there have been some very, very arrest and prosecution. i there have been some very, very arrest and prosecution.— arrest and prosecution. i believe koestler has _ arrest and prosecution. i believe koestler has written _ arrest and prosecution. i believe koestler has written to - arrest and prosecution. i believe koestler has written to the - arrest and prosecution. i believe| koestler has written to the home secretary requesting a urgent meeting. i would urge her to take up that offer so she can have a few home truths about the situation relate to her. does she agree that now is also the time in the face of this appalling tragedy to stop talking about this as simply being a french uk issue, and instead address it as an international, global issue and that it is vital that disputes over northern ireland and fishing are treated entirely separately from working together to find a joint solution? i take issue with the comments from the honourable lady. first of all, for her information, the immigration minister met on monday and his ashes did not come up. secondly, when it comes to the issue of migration, i have never said that it is a uk fan france issue, i have said it is a global issue. there is no point pointing to my colleagues. she is addressing the question to me. i have always said and maintain it as a global crisis and maintain it as a global crisis and actually i have been proactive in speaking to my counterparts across eu states and other countries. i have even hosted meetings with them as well. i think having that context is equally as important. having that context is equally as im ortant. , , .,, having that context is equally as imortant. , , ., , important. this is the most awful tra . ed important. this is the most awful tragedy and _ important. this is the most awful tragedy and l _ important. this is the most awful tragedy and i would _ important. this is the most awful tragedy and i would like - important. this is the most awful tragedy and i would like to - important. this is the most awful tragedy and i would like to add i important. this is the most awful. tragedy and i would like to add my condolences to all those who have been affected. it is right to say, isn't it, that the home office has failed to get a grip of this issue forfar too long. in a week failed to get a grip of this issue for far too long. in a week when the home affairs select committee has recommended that the windrush compensation scheme should be removed from the home office because of issues of competency, isn't it now time that this matter should also be removed from the home office, given to the cabinet office and they should be a cross government response? for and they should be a cross government response? and they should be a cross covernment resonse? ., , government response? for the benefit ofthe government response? for the benefit of the house. — government response? for the benefit of the house, there _ government response? for the benefit of the house, there is _ government response? for the benefit of the house, there is a _ government response? for the benefit of the house, there is a cross - of the house, there is a cross government response to this. whilst we don't know _ government response to this. whilst we don't know the _ government response to this. whilst we don't know the details _ government response to this. whilst we don't know the details are - we don't know the details are nationalities of those that sadly lost their lives in the channel yesterday, we do note that a very large numbers of people who are refugees from the oppressive, brutal regime in iran are desperately seeking to cross the channel to come to this country. can she look at the example that has been set by the albanian governments who moved satisfactorily from iran and it is a model of how to treat people who are refugees in the closest country possible to the iranian border. that thatis possible to the iranian border. that that is how we set up the camps for people fleeing from those regimes, rather than being forced to take this perilous journey. rather than being forced to take this perilousjourney. my honourable friend makes what is a highly, highly relevant and important point. at times of crisis of global migration, and if we think back to 2014, 2015, our policy and approach and internationally supportive as well was to keep people within the region. i am well was to keep people within the region. iam referring well was to keep people within the region. i am referring to the syrian crisis where we worked with counterparts and we are still working with counterparts injordan and other countries in the region. there is a great deal of work that took place. but the sadness of all of this all i can say is the british government and i are working night and day to recognise that no one country can solve this on their own and that is why we need stronger cooperation across the board to address these issues together. the eo - le address these issues together. the --eole of address these issues together. tie: people of east kent are address these issues together. ti9 people of east kent are qualified and deeply upset by what the chief rabbi this morning called an unspeakable tragedy happening on our shores. we should be ashamed also that amongst the dead was a soldier who served alongside british armed forces personnel and reportedly felt

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