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I think possibly, yes, yes. I dont have the full facts. These oximeters are being used in every country and they have the same problem. In sport, speculation that ole Gunnar Solskjaer is set to leave Manchester United after senior figures at the club met last night. Now on bbc news, the Russian Hackers wanted by the west the bbc� s Cyber Reporterjoe tidy travels to russia to track down alleged hackers. Around the world, cyber citadels are crumbling. Ukraine, romania, poland, kuwait, south korea, hackers are being rounded up. Online, too, western Intelligence Services are hacking back, taking criminals off line, and even retrieving some of their stolen riches. But theres one place where hackers are not being arrested. Cash rich, fast cars, behaving and acting like very flamboyant and extravagant millionaires. Im on the trail of the most wanted suspected hackers in the world. The us are alleged to the gang are hacking money from private Bank Accounts and launching Ransomware Attacks which have cost more than 100 million. Hello, im looking for maksim. I am from the bbc. More russians have been sanctioned and indicted for hacking than any other country. 27 russians appear on the the us cyber most wanted list. If they leave the country, they will probably be arrested. But here in russia, they are safe. Most of these men are said to have links to or work directly for the Intelligence Services. But there are some who are accused of being flat out Cyber Criminals. And instead of hiding here, they are leading large extravagant lifestyles. We are here to try and find them and talk to them. And we want to know whether this increasing western tactic of naming and shaming hackers is having an impact. Good morning. Thank you all for being here. We are here today to identify and announce charges against a Russian National whom the Department Ofjustice alleges is responsible for two of the worst Computer Hacking and Bank Fraud Schemes of the past decade. Yakubets is a true 21st century criminal who committed cyber crimes across the globe with a stroke of a key. He has and has place on the fbis list of the most wanted cybercriminals. With a 5 million bounty for his arrest, Maksim Yakubets is the most wanted alleged hacker in the world. Us Authorities Say his hacker gang have stolen or extorted more us Authorities Say his hacker gang, evil corp, have stolen or extorted more than 5 million from victims around the world, companies, charities, even schools have been attacked. Evil corp. Bbc russias cyber reporter has been working with me for months to try to trace these alleged hackers. What have you learned about yakubets . We have two addresses owned by him, we know where he officially worked for some time, his mothers company. No registered businesses. He doesnt have any registered businesses . Yeah. Right, 0k. I wanted to show you something ifound. This is his wedding video. So this is the wedding venue. They got married at a golf course. Yeah, i see. So this was here. So all of that on the grass. The golf course where the wedding took place about two hours outside of moscow. Staff are happy to show us around, but did not want to go into specifics about yakubets� s big day. Wow, impressive. So this is where the newlyweds sit, have some champagne. Yeah. This wedding is probably the most famous wedding in the history of Cyber Security. People have pored over that video since it was posted online, and it feels strange being here, where it actually took place. A lot of people, including newspapers, said the wedding cost about 250,000. But i have just discovered it could have cost at least 0. 5 million, and that is just to have it here. We dont know how the wedding was paid for, but if the money did come from yakubets, it gives us an insight into how some of his alleged stolen riches are being spent. With e mails and phone calls unanswered, it was time to try the moscow addresses hes registered to. 0h, here it is. Here we go. Buzzer rings. Hello, is Maksim Yakubets there . As soon as i said Maksim Yakubets, he hung up. Hello, i am looking for Maksim Yakubets. Im from the bbc. Maksims father told us that the 5 million us reward for his sons arrest has led them to live in fear of attack from criminals looking to cash in. How do you think your son has become so rich . How did he affordthe 600,000 wedding . No, it is too much. 0k. So youre telling me that your son is not a criminal, and he is not rich . What is his line of work . Phone rings. Is that maksim . No, mama. You seem very upset by the accusations of the uk and the us. We asked if we could speak to maksim, but his father claims he has no contact with him. How was that . Wow. Maksim yakubets and his accomplice have spent the last decade infecting computers worldwide. The us and the uk to have Strong Enough evidence to convict yakubets. It includes direct testimony from former gang members, Cyberforensics Data and Even Communications from ya kubets� personal e mail and skype account. Their cases date back so far, it includes evidence obtained by the Russian Police in 2010 when there are still open to helping the us investigate. The 2019 investigation named other men allegedly from evil corp. They are banned from Doing Business with Western Firms and have any Company Assets frozen. The us has sanctioned dozens of russians, nearly all of whom are accused of working directly for the kremlin. And its notjust the us. Last year, the European Union started to issue its first cyber sanctions. Once again, it is mostly russians. The kremlin calls the allegations a diabolical cocktail and rich fantasy. For everyday russians, the sanctions are so regular now that they are largely ignored. But for Cyber Security professionals in russia, they provoke anger. Alexandra is a professional ethical hacker, or white hat. When she is not at her computer, her second love is motorbikes. Like many hackers i have met, alexandra says she first got into it by playing games. Everybody. They are all coming . Now is our time to attack. How do you feel about the stereotype of the russian hacker . The highly anticipated summit between us President Joe Biden and his russian counterpart Vladimir Putin is getting under way in geneva. Cyber crime was a major Talking Point at biden and putins geneva summit. Present biden brought up the recent Ransomware Attack on an oil pipeline that caused Fuel Shortages in the us. Responsible countries need to take action against criminals who conduct ransomware activities on their territory. The talks have yet to bear significant fruit. I spoke to an investigative reporterfor an independent russian news site. He was recruited. How did you know that . We know that from the documents of the us government. Maksim yakubets and both of those guys from evil corp Hacking Group were announced like enemies of the state. One of my sources, and ex fsb officer, told me that he personally tried to enlist yakubets. It is actually usual practice in russia. It is easier for the fsb to enlist hackers in russia than to put them in jail. The lifestyle of yakubets� alleged right hand man is another sign that russia is unwilling to act on these accusations. He is a close associate of yakubets, and serves as the system administrator. We found businesses run by him in a prestigious building in moscows financial district. So this is where three businesses are registered. The building receptionist said there were no active internal lines but found a mobile number for igor turashev� s company. After a long wait, somebody picked up. Hello, i am looking to find igor turashev. That was interesting, that was actually somebody who works with turashev. Yeah. I find it amazing that he is here. This is where lots of legitimate businesses are. They have offices here, but they have a very good cars, good life in moscow. We travelled 700 kilometres east to turashev� s childhood town to track him down. Local reporter dmitry covered the story when turashev was accused of being a Major International cybercriminal. Despite being a seemingly legitimate businessmen. Then, turashev was proving elusive. We deliberately did not try to Contact People facing sanctions who are thought to work for the russian Intelligence Services. All nations hack each other, but some allegations against russian State Hackers are extreme, from Electricity Blackouts to attacks causing billions of dollars of damage globally. The russian government has denied all accusations, routinely laughing them off as western hysteria and russophobia. For some of the grey haired generals, being sanctioned is like a reward. A badge of honour . Yes, a badge of honour. Even if they have been caught . Well, caught in what . For them, it is intelligence gathering against the enemy of the russian state. And it is notjust individuals who are being accused of hacking for the russian state. Entire institutions and even private companies have been sanctioned, too. Denis is the new ceo of positive technologies. He said he was just as shocked as the rest of the cybersecurity world when President Biden accused his well respected company of hacking for russia in april. The sanctions forced him to postpone a long awaited ipo. It has also cut the company off from access to many western partnerships and technology. Is this a punchbag . Yes. Did you come and punch this on the day of the sanctions . No, i didnt, because it is not my way of working out stress. The wording of the accusation is that positive technologies has worked to support the russian Intelligence Services efforts to carry out malicious cyber activities against the us. Is that something you have done . By double purposes, do you mean you do not allow your products to be used in offensive ways . The Biden Administration has also criticised the companys annual hacking conference, where hackers are invited to attack a mock city. The us claims that the event is being used as a Recruitment Tool for the russian Intelligence Services. Is that an atm . Yes, we take this atm, put it in the conference and ask the community, there is some money inside it, so come and get it. And do some of them manage to get the money . Yes, every year. We send the vulnerabilities to the vendors and they are fixed. There are a lot of people came along to your days, and the accusation is that they were here to recruit for the military. Is that true . Will they be invited again next year or will you start to vet people who come . Alexandra has competed herself at many positive hack days. She says they are a normal and enjoyable conference. Positive technologies is not the first Russian Cybersecurity Company to be accused of getting too close to the kremlin, and whilst we were in moscow, a Breaking News Event showed what can happen if a Russian Cybersecurity Firm gets on the wrong side the kremlin. The founder of group ib was arrested for treason. He faces up to 20 years in prison. We are going to go there now and see what we can find out. Police raided the offices of group ib overnight. 0fficers even broke into one room to apparently Access Company servers. Looks like a complete mirror image of what has happened to positive technologies. They are being accused by the west of working for the russian government and hacking, and now it seems like group ib are being accused by the russian government of working for the west. It is very hard to be a Cyber Security company in this country. Group ib says it is innocent and there are few details about what ilya sachkov is accused of. Many have spoken to a speech their outspoken founder made which publicly criticised russian authorities for not arresting alleged Cyber Criminals like yakubets. Before i left russia, we tried one last address, an apartment in a luxury part of town. Buzzer rings. A neighbour recognised a picture of turashev, but he was not interested in talking if he was there. I think we have got as close to these people as we can. They know we are here, but they do not want to talk to us. It has been a strange process, almost uncomfortable and intrusive. We have been going to their houses, their businesses, but i have to remind myself that this is what they have been doing, allegedly, for years they have been breaking into the private networks and computers of companies and individuals, and that is how they have allegedly made their fortunes. Hello. It is a weekend of two halves, weather wise. Yesterday, many of us were still in the mild air, we had temperatures up at 14 degrees, but today it is a colder, fresher feeling day. This was the picture a bit earlier on as the sun rose above eastbourne. Now, through the course of today we are expecting a chillier feel wherever you are. Sunnier skies in general but also some showers in the forecast and the bulk of the showers today are going to be towards the east. And thats because higher pressure is sitting out to the west. Here you can see the winds are rotating around that area of high pressure, so coming in from a northerly direction, bringing us that Cold Air Mass and that wind chill you will notice out there, particularly close to those east coasts. So the northerly breeze driving some showers in across eastern scotland, wintry over the higher ground. Rain showers, perhaps some hail mixed in down the east coast of england in particular, for the likes of East Yorkshire and northumberland as well right down towards kent and east sussex. But further west, most places are looking largely dry for much of the day. You will notice the wind gusts could be as high as 30 mph, a0 mph close to that east coast. So temperatures between 7 degrees to 11 degrees but feeling a bit cooler than that where you do notice that wind chill around. Into this evening and overnight, most of the showers will ease away. We will continue to see some filtering through the English Channel here, affecting the likes of kent and east sussex. And a little bit more cloud for the north of scotland but in between these two areas, a cold night with temperatures a few degrees either side of freezing, A Touch Of Frost certainly first thing monday morning. A mostly dry settled sort of day on monday. We have got more cloud and Patchy Rain For Northern Scotland and a few showers in the far south east as well. Most places avoiding the showers with temperatures between 7 to 10 degrees. We do it all again on tuesday. Another dry, settled sort of day with sunshine for most areas. Cloudier in the far north west. The chance of a few passing showers in the far south east as well. Highs on tuesday between 8 11 degrees for most of us. Feeling cooler again where you are exposed to that north easterly breeze, particularly for east anglia and the south east. As we head through the middle of the week, you will notice things turn colder once again because a second cold front works its way south, so that will introduce another northerly blast of winds as we move through into thursday in particular. Temperatures not as mild as they have been recently. We are looking at single figures through the middle of the week and turning more unsettled by friday. Bye for now. 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