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and cities across sudan. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. i hope my cold is clearing up. if i sneeze suddenly, my apologies. with me are times radio presenter, calum macdonald, and ali miraj, columnist with the article. safely and well distanced from me, no doubt they cannot get my cold. lovely to see you both. let me bring you up—to—date with tamara's front pages. dash with tomorrow's front pages. —— with tomorrow's front pages. the sunday times — its headline is — india and china thwart climate change deal to end the use of coal power. the sunday telegraph reports on the moment cop26 president alok sharma's emotional apology to delegates for how the talks ended. the paper leads on an article written by the foreign secretary liz truss — in which she warns vladimir putin to the end "shameful manufactured migrant crisis" on europe's eastern border. the observer says the climate deal falls far short of what's needed. it also has a story about us businesswomanjennifer arcuri — with the headline: "howjohnson pledged help for my business to win my love". the sunday mirror leads with another story about conservative mps having a second job. the mail on sunday claims the outgoing head of the uk border force has triggered a political row by using strong language to describe the country's borders. and in the sunday express, the prime minister vows to pledges £50 million to find a cure for motor neurone disease. right, shall we begin with you calum. pick us up at the sunday times. (alum. pick us up at the sunday times. calum. pick us up at the sunday times. ., ., ,, ._ calum. pick us up at the sunday times. ., ., ,, .,y , times. the front of the sunday times focuses on cop26 _ times. the front of the sunday times focuses on cop26 and _ times. the front of the sunday times focuses on cop26 and the _ focuses on cop26 and the combination, the 2a hour late combination, the 2a hour late combination of top 26 and glasgow —— running glasgow, which has ended with a deal of sorts, whether it's a copout, sorry, it's kind of up for grabs, and that's where the discussion moves to now in terms of whether cop26 has been a success or not to. i think what's notably several of the paper is picked up on the president of cop26, alok sharma and his tearful address at the end of the summit, apologising for the way that process has gone in the last sort of 2a hours or so. it is noticeable it's the first time in nearly 30 years of un climate summits that all nations have explicitly agreed to reduce the use of coal, but the terminology, the phrasing is what is attracting attention, and understandably so, because that phrase "phase out" was in a previous draught, and phased out has now become "phased down", i'm not sure i've ever done that, so i'm not sure i've ever done that, so i'm not sure where that phrase comes from. i think what's noticeable in the sunday times piece as well, the fact that india and china are really the countries that have pushed for softening the language around reducing the use of coal. what's interesting is it's the us that broke at that deal with those countries on the floor of the summit. ijust wonderwhere countries on the floor of the summit. i just wonder where the president of cop26, alok sharma, was as that was going on. it's left a lot of country stress parental that the way the process has been handled in the last few hours. this the way the process has been handled in the last few hours.— in the last few hours. this phase out, in the last few hours. this phase out. phased _ in the last few hours. this phase out, phased down, _ in the last few hours. this phase out, phased down, the - in the last few hours. this phase out, phased down, the kind - in the last few hours. this phase out, phased down, the kind of l in the last few hours. this phase - out, phased down, the kind of makes some people are trying to glass half full rather than glass half empty and say, "look, the economics of coal are now becoming unviable. it's just no longer that valuable commodity it was." the way the markets are shifting, often markets actually shift, before a governments get their act together. are you more optimistic than the headline suggests? i optimistic than the headline suggests?— optimistic than the headline su: nests? ~ 3 , optimistic than the headline su: nests? ~ �*, , ., suggests? i think it's been quite an achievement _ suggests? i think it's been quite an achievement to _ suggests? i think it's been quite an achievement to get _ suggests? i think it's been quite an achievement to get call _ suggests? i think it's been quite an achievement to get call mentioned | suggests? i think it's been quite an l achievement to get call mentioned at all. achievement to get call mentioned at alt it's_ achievement to get call mentioned at alt it's the _ achievement to get call mentioned at all. it's the first time it's ever been — all. it's the first time it's ever been mentioned in a cop26 agreement, and to— been mentioned in a cop26 agreement, and to alok— been mentioned in a cop26 agreement, and to alok calum's's planes, and caps _ and to alok calum's's planes, and caps that— and to alok calum's's planes, and caps that are on probation. and i think_ caps that are on probation. and i think this — caps that are on probation. and i think this is _ caps that are on probation. and i think this is very much a cop on her ovation _ think this is very much a cop on her ovation -- — think this is very much a cop on her ovation. —— calum's. ithink we need to take _ ovation. —— calum's. ithink we need to take the _ ovation. —— calum's. ithink we need to take the positives out of this. i know— to take the positives out of this. i know alok— to take the positives out of this. i know alok sharma was very emotional, and i know alok sharma was very emotional, and i went— know alok sharma was very emotional, and i went to _ know alok sharma was very emotional, and i went to for devoting my time for this _ and i went to for devoting my time forthis it's— and i went to for devoting my time for this. it's very emotive command ithink— for this. it's very emotive command i think it's _ for this. it's very emotive command i think it's a — for this. it's very emotive command i think it's a step in the right direction _ i think it's a step in the right direction. you've got to understand that india. — direction. you've got to understand that india, and to a lesser extent china, _ that india, and to a lesser extent china, are — that india, and to a lesser extent china, are going to argue always, they want— china, are going to argue always, they want to keep their development -oals they want to keep their development goals and _ they want to keep their development goals and poverty reduction goals particularly in the case of india at the forefront, and those need to be balanced _ the forefront, and those need to be balanced with climates considerations as well. there is a balance _ considerations as well. there is a balance to — considerations as well. there is a balance to be struck. and i think that people on the outside who are criticising _ that people on the outside who are criticising what's gone inside have to understand that they may say it's blah blah _ to understand that they may say it's blah blah blah but politics is the art of— blah blah blah but politics is the art of the — blah blah blah but politics is the art of the possible. and i think 197 nations— art of the possible. and i think 197 nations have signed this agreement. there _ nations have signed this agreement. there is— nations have signed this agreement. there is some good stuff in there. 1.5 there is some good stuff in there. 15 is— there is some good stuff in there. 15 is kept— there is some good stuff in there. 1.5 is kept alive. at the moment, we are in— 1.5 is kept alive. at the moment, we are ina— 1.5 is kept alive. at the moment, we are in a trajectory of 2.4 degrees. at least— are in a trajectory of 2.4 degrees. at least next year, they are going to come _ at least next year, they are going to come back and talk about the agreement next year. it was going to be in agreement next year. it was going to he in five — agreement next year. it was going to be in five years time, so i think that's— be in five years time, so i think that's positive.— be in five years time, so i think that's positive. be in five years time, so i think that's ositive. . . ~ that's positive. unmatched, ali, the mail on sunday _ that's positive. unmatched, ali, the mail on sunday seems _ that's positive. unmatched, ali, the mail on sunday seems to _ that's positive. unmatched, ali, the mail on sunday seems to be - mail on sunday seems to be echoing your tone. glasgow made history last night as the world signed off the most ambitious deal ever scenic to tackle global climate change. let there is a lot to be done here. there — there is a lot to be done here. there were _ there is a lot to be done here. there were some good things earlier on in _ there were some good things earlier on in the _ there were some good things earlier on in the first week, the reduction of methane, a commitment to deforestation, to stop deforestation, to stop deforestation, there was also mark's they coming together of a lot of the finance _ they coming together of a lot of the finance parties representing 130 trillion — finance parties representing 130 trillion of— finance parties representing 130 trillion of capital in the world to try and — trillion of capital in the world to try and finance some of the green transition — try and finance some of the green transition staff. also a lot of talk about _ transition staff. also a lot of talk about climate adaptation. so mark himself. _ about climate adaptation. so mark himself, the former governor of the bank of— himself, the former governor of the bank of england talked about in 2015 the tragedy of the horizon, the fact that policymakers and indeed financiers do not look beyond the tips of— financiers do not look beyond the tips of their own noses beyond five years. _ tips of their own noses beyond five years. at _ tips of their own noses beyond five years, at least over here, we have a chance _ years, at least over here, we have a chance to _ years, at least over here, we have a chance to move in it the right direction _ chance to move in it the right direction, but there is scrutiny and pressure — direction, but there is scrutiny and pressure. look, ithink direction, but there is scrutiny and pressure. look, i think the whole conversation around climate change is generally changing. most people -et is generally changing. most people get it. _ is generally changing. most people get it, most people want to see this reduced. _ get it, most people want to see this reduced, but there are costs involved. _ reduced, but there are costs involved, and not every country comes — involved, and not every country comes to — involved, and not every country comes to this at the same position in their— comes to this at the same position in their development trajectory, and that has— in their development trajectory, and that has to — in their development trajectory, and that has to be understood when you are trying _ that has to be understood when you are trying to find an agreement with 197 nations — are trying to find an agreement with 197 nations. it's never going to be easv _ 197 nations. it's never going to be easy. they— 197 nations. it's never going to be easy. they are always going to be compromises to be done, the politics is the _ compromises to be done, the politics is the art _ compromises to be done, the politics is the art of— compromises to be done, the politics is the art of the possible, and i think— is the art of the possible, and i think alok— is the art of the possible, and i think alok sharma and his team have actually— think alok sharma and his team have actually got a pretty decent job in the circumstances here. actually got a pretty decent “0b in the circumstances here.�* actually got a pretty decent “0b in the circumstances here. calum as i said, the the circumstances here. calum as i said. the tone _ the circumstances here. calum as i said, the tone of _ the circumstances here. calum as i said, the tone of the _ the circumstances here. calum as i said, the tone of the mail- the circumstances here. calum as i said, the tone of the mail piece - the circumstances here. calum as i said, the tone of the mail piece is. said, the tone of the mail piece is very positive. in a sense, it's one of those strange situations were even getting countries, all countries to agree to something minimal, feels like an achievement, even though we have been talking about the subject now for 30 years, if you go back to the summit, we are talking about 1992, it's now almost 2022, 30 years to get to a stage where we can talk about facing down rather than facing out. you where we can talk about facing down rather than facing out.— rather than facing out. you know, absolutelv- _ rather than facing out. you know, absolutely. and _ rather than facing out. you know, absolutely. and i _ rather than facing out. you know, absolutely. and i take _ rather than facing out. you know, absolutely. and i take ali's - absolutely. and i take ali's argument about politics being about the possible. i think the frustrations here are that the solutions are possible, they are right there, we do not need any particular revelation or eureka moments. we know what we need to do. actually, it is the lack of political well that is frustrating. there is no doubt that this is the most important summit until the next one, and that is that thing, that change is incremental. i was reading the brilliant article in the times, three years ago, 30% of countries had next they are targets, now it's 90%. so what we see that change happening. the issue is that it's so slow, and even today, the secretary at general, the un secretary—general says it's an important step but not enough. we kept 1.5 alive, but the pulse is weak. so while this might be the most gripping cop drama since the bell, actually it is so serious at this point and it's the lack of political well that is so frustrating that we need to wait another year to see if for example china, even comes back on this call. it's not legally binding. it's got... china has no antedate for its use of coal, and these are the frustrations that actually come talking shop that is cop, should have solved in the last two weeks. calum wash out your mouth at once, the best drama of the bell, surely you must mean line of duty. just on the observer, it didn't fall short of what is needed? i dead plaintiff may care about the importance of keeping the 1.5 degrees aspiration ally that we mustn't see global temperatures rise more than 1.5 degrees above preindustrial levels, otherwise we really are into the significant and potentially permanent shift changes to the condition of the planets, as it affects us. a very mind of this, isn't it? we are here now. the planets can carry on without us, carried on without the dinosaurs. the dinosaurs didn't have a warning they were about to be made extinct. it was an external factor. we have a warning. and we are in a remarkable stage that we know what the risks are, we know what is coming, we don't have all the tools by any means to avert it or minimise the effect, but in some ways, we are at a stage in human development where we are an extraordinarily advantageous position. i we are an extraordinarily advantageous position. i think that is riuht. advantageous position. i think that is right- and _ advantageous position. i think that is right- and i— advantageous position. i think that is right. and i think _ advantageous position. i think that is right. and i think that _ advantageous position. i think that is right. and i think that you - advantageous position. i think that is right. and i think that you are i is right. and i think that you are right to — is right. and i think that you are right to point out that we have toois. — right to point out that we have tools. and _ right to point out that we have tools, and we also can see with our own eyes, — tools, and we also can see with our own eyes, we — tools, and we also can see with our own eyes, we saw the wildfires in greece _ own eyes, we saw the wildfires in greece that erased, raised 100,000 hectares _ greece that erased, raised 100,000 hectares of— greece that erased, raised 100,000 hectares of forest to the ground. using _ hectares of forest to the ground. using the — hectares of forest to the ground. using the issues in california with wildfires— using the issues in california with wildfires there, the floods and devastation and loss of life that they have caused in belgium. so people _ they have caused in belgium. so people can see this is on their doorsteps— people can see this is on their doorsteps right now. look, paris was very clear _ doorsteps right now. look, paris was very clear about this 1.5 degrees above _ very clear about this 1.5 degrees above preindustrial levels issue, and i_ above preindustrial levels issue, and i think— above preindustrial levels issue, and i think what we are finding now is the _ and i think what we are finding now is the climate scientists are saying on the _ is the climate scientists are saying on the current trajectory based on the commitments we had in the last two weeks. — the commitments we had in the last two weeks, we are on track for 2.4 degrees _ two weeks, we are on track for 2.4 degrees. now, that would imply that things are _ degrees. now, that would imply that things are pretty bleak. however, the way— things are pretty bleak. however, the way the system works is that countries — the way the system works is that countries are meant to come forward with nationally determined contributions, basically targets that they are going to meet going forward _ that they are going to meet going forward to try to reduce emissions, which _ forward to try to reduce emissions, which we _ forward to try to reduce emissions, which we need to have that 2030 target _ which we need to have that 2030 target to — which we need to have that 2030 target to be distant by half from 2010 _ target to be distant by half from 2010 levels and keep that on track. a five _ 2010 levels and keep that on track. a five year— 2010 levels and keep that on track. a five year gap to the check and on the process— a five year gap to the check and on the process is too much. now, you had the _ the process is too much. now, you had the climate change had of un saving _ had the climate change had of un saying that she wanted them to come back next— saying that she wanted them to come back next year, which they are not going _ back next year, which they are not going to _ back next year, which they are not going to do — back next year, which they are not going to do in egypt. so that is a bil going to do in egypt. so that is a big victory— going to do in egypt. so that is a big victory and a big step forward. you have — big victory and a big step forward. you have got to look at this on the whole. _ you have got to look at this on the whole, china is on a rapid development trajectory. it's not going _ development trajectory. it's not going to — development trajectory. it's not going to give up coal power immediately, but the fact that they have even— immediately, but the fact that they have even discussed having a bitaterai— have even discussed having a bilateral discussion with the us in the last— bilateral discussion with the us in the last few days as positive, and i 'ust the last few days as positive, and i just think it — the last few days as positive, and i just think it shows that when you -et just think it shows that when you get people around the table, even if the president of china didn't turn out, fine, — the president of china didn't turn out, fine, but he did have other people — out, fine, but he did have other people there, it does make a difference and it moves the debate on. difference and it moves the debate on there — difference and it moves the debate on. there is something to be said about— on. there is something to be said about people coming knocking heads and trying _ about people coming knocking heads and trying to push agreements in a very difficult scenario when everyone is coming in from slightly different— everyone is coming in from slightly different positions. you are right about— different positions. you are right about 15— different positions. you are right about 1.5 on the marshall islands, it could _ about 1.5 on the marshall islands, it could erase them. i about 1.5 on the marshall islands, it could erase them.— about 1.5 on the marshall islands, it could erase them. i am wondering whether they _ it could erase them. i am wondering whether they shouldn't _ it could erase them. i am wondering whether they shouldn't be _ it could erase them. i am wondering whether they shouldn't be having i it could erase them. i am wondering | whether they shouldn't be having the egyptian cop next year because that is a city that will disappear at these temperatures get out of control. we won't dwell on cop any longer, alok sharma says sorry for cop climbed a wonderful cartoon i'm urging all mps, its estimate to get a third boosterjab to see them through until christmas. we will leave that one. but here the best story, trust tells put into and that shameful migrant drought. this is really putting the boot and. absolutely. this is liz trask writing in a telegraph, so here is hoping that vladimir putin has a subscription, because she is sending quite a serious message to the kremlin, blaming them for crafting a crisis and belarus according to the foreign secretary. just a few minutes ago watching the reports on the crisis that has developed on the bar today between belarus and poland. some strong language from liz trask on how to deal with us, but that doesn't negate the fact that actually for about a year now for a month, certainly, that actually for about a year now fora month, certainly, we that actually for about a year now for a month, certainly, we have kind of stayed by really while this tyrannical dictator, lukashenko, clings to power and belarus while thousands of people come out and protest the fact that he is clinging to power. —— lays trust. and reaching breaking point and want to leave this dictatorship. so i think we have to question the kind of level of intervention and the pace of intervention. a few days ago, soldiers were sent to the border, british soldiers, were sent to the partner to try to reinforce that border. actually we have to question how much we have let this crisis develop. there have been many months for intervention could have come along, and i think that is a criticism of the foreign secretary that he should answer a. mi. criticism of the foreign secretary that he should answer a. ali, what do ou that he should answer a. ali, what do you think _ that he should answer a. ali, what do you think of — that he should answer a. ali, what do you think of at? _ that he should answer a. ali, what do you think of at? i _ that he should answer a. ali, what do you think of at? ithink- that he should answer a. ali, what do you think of at? i think it's - that he should answer a. ali, what do you think of at? i think it's a i do you think of at? i think it's a test for nato. _ do you think of at? i think it's a test for nato. i _ do you think of at? i think it's a test for nato. i think _ do you think of at? i think it's a test for nato. i think it's - do you think of at? i think it's a test for nato. i think it's a i do you think of at? i think it's a test for nato. i think it's a big l test for nato. i think it's a big test i— test for nato. i think it's a big test. i don't quite buy into this thing _ test. idon't quite buy into this thing that— test. i don't quite buy into this thing that it's all down to rush and put thing that it's all down to rush and but in _ thing that it's all down to rush and but in i_ thing that it's all down to rush and put in. i don't think it is. i think putin— put in. i don't think it is. i think putin is a — put in. i don't think it is. i think putin is a geopolitical strategist, he is _ putin is a geopolitical strategist, he is not — putin is a geopolitical strategist, he is not a — putin is a geopolitical strategist, he is not a fool. he is at the moment— he is not a fool. he is at the moment desperately trying to get the german— moment desperately trying to get the german regulatory authorities to approve — german regulatory authorities to approve the stream pipeline to get his russian gas flowing into europe. so he _ his russian gas flowing into europe. so he has _ his russian gas flowing into europe. so he has at — his russian gas flowing into europe. so he has at other issues. he doesn't really want to stand off at europe _ doesn't really want to stand off at europe right now, in fact, i don't think— europe right now, in fact, i don't think he's— europe right now, in fact, i don't think he's particularly pleased with lukashenko by all accounts barb ramping — lukashenko by all accounts barb ramping up the rhetoric. lukashenko has got _ ramping up the rhetoric. lukashenko has got his— ramping up the rhetoric. lukashenko has got his own game to play. callum is right, _ has got his own game to play. callum is right, he _ has got his own game to play. callum is right, he is— has got his own game to play. callum is right, he is packed down on dissidents, he's been —— his political— dissidents, he's been —— his political opponent has been driven out of— political opponent has been driven out of the — political opponent has been driven out of the country, he is a tyrannical— out of the country, he is a tyrannical dictator, but i don't think— tyrannical dictator, but i don't think vladimir putin has will be pleased — think vladimir putin has will be pleased with how things are going i’ilht pleased with how things are going right now — pleased with how things are going right now. the pleased with how things are going riaht now. , , , pleased with how things are going riahtnow. , ,, ., . , right now. the press agencies yesterday _ right now. the press agencies yesterday and _ right now. the press agencies yesterday and last _ right now. the press agencies yesterday and last night i right now. the press agencies yesterday and last night in i right now. the press agencies| yesterday and last night in fact wear reporting that the belarus prime minister was saying, actually, we cancelled some contracts or travel companies and we are sending people home rather than facilitating i'm going to poland. so maybe this has reached maximum impact and they think they need to back away. who knows? i wanted to end but the front of the express. a terrific strain on the motor neurone disease. £50 million government money being contributed to this. i mean, i lost a relative about a year ago to it, a close relative. i have seen, and more important, his immediate family has seen the terrible devastation, as have many people, it's a wicked disease it's nice to see some money going into some research, because perhaps it's not as glamourous a disease at some of the others with big charity support, but it's a hugely important one. that big charity support, but it's a hugely important one. that that is the thin. hugely important one. that that is the thing. alongside _ hugely important one. that that is the thing. alongside of— hugely important one. that that is the thing. alongside of this i the thing. alongside of this headline of the £50 million funding is a picture of dottie weir and the quote "i'm completely over the moon." a rugby ledge into has battled motor neurone disease for a think about for years now. so him saying he is over the moon really expresses the feeling behind this. it is horrible, horrible disease, it has high—profile people like daddy we're speaking out about it more recently, so a very welcome to £50 million investment and finding british efforts to find a cure for modern air and disease. so absolutely valiant. worth mentioning that some of the other papers do have some stories about the prime minister about other mps as well, so it's worth just kind of having a step back and thinking about the distraction that this might be, but it's a positive distraction, it doesn't take away from... if it is a distraction. _ doesn't take away from... if it is a distraction, it _ doesn't take away from... if it is a distraction, it is _ doesn't take away from... if it is a distraction, it is doing _ doesn't take away from... if it is a distraction, it is doing that. i doesn't take away from... if it is a distraction, it is doing that. ali, i distraction, it is doing that. ali, i'm sure it's a thumbs up for you as well. thank you both are coming on. a pleasure to speak with you, enjoy the rest of your weekend. enjoy your weekend as well, coming up next, the film review and the weather. then the news at midnight with syllabi. good night. —— then the news at midnight with phillipa. good night. hello, and a very warm welcome to the film review on bbc news. to take us through this week's cinema releases, mark kermode is with me as ever. what have you been watching, mark? well, we have the new clint eastwood film, cry macho, which i know you're particularly looking forward to. we have mothering sunday, adapted from a novella by greg swift. and lin—manuel miranda's tick, tick...boom! i have nothing against clint eastwood — nothing at all. no, no. he's made some great films. he has made some great films. this isn't one of them. ok, so this is adapted from a novel that actually began life as a screenplay. couldn't be sold as a screenplay, turned into a novel, then suddenly film companies wanted it. nothing happened. it's been around for ages. at one point schwarzenegger was attached to it. anyway, clint eastwood is mike, one—time rodeo star, who is sent to mexico by his former boss to retrieve his son, who the boss says is living with his mother who is completely completely unsuitable. "i need to go to mexico." he says, why? why should i do it? and he says, because you owe me. i stood by you when your life fell apart. clint, being clint, goes "ok, sounds fine." so he goes to mexico. in no time at all he finds the mother, finds her son and starts heading back to the border, but then discovers he is being tracked by the federales and gangsters. so he has to hole up in a small town, where he is looked after in a cantina and gets to teach the boy about horse riding. here's a clip. look where you're going and go where you're looking. good. put your heels down. 0k. heels down. yeah, don't look like a sack of potatoes. your dad's going to be a happy man, i can see that. i'll see you in a bit. yeah. so the film is called cry macho because the young boy has a cockerel called macho because he's involved in cockfighting, which is actually how clint eastwood finds him in the beginning. that is pretty much the one interesting part of the screenplay — the name. beyond that, it'sjust a series of every cliche you can possibly imagine. firstly, every woman clint eastwood meets falls in love with him immediately — comes onto him. even though they're decades younger. none of that matters. he's clint eastwood. when they turn up in a small town, it's like a picture postcard town, there's a cantina thatjust happens to have a widowed woman it who immediately takes one look at clint eastwood and this young child, takes them in, starts offering them food and bed and lodging and support. there conveniently is the person who has horses, and horses need breaking in. happily clint can show them. you go ok, this was written by a computer. you go shift—alt—balding neo—western — go. it's written by writers on gran torino. look, clint eastwood in his time has been a great film—maker, i mean a really great film—maker. incredibly economical, like a textbook great film—maker. this is really poor. it's cliched and hackneyed and dull. the only thing that kind of stops you getting cross about it is it's so sort of insipid that it's impossible to get annoyed about it. i did try, but i couldn't work up the enthusiasm. no, 0k. is mothering sunday much better? it is, it's much better. adapted from a screenplay by graham swift. essentially it's a story of a woman becoming a writer. some of the main periods as a 20, at this a young age. their child, who works in a house — both families have suffered losses through world war ii. she's having an affair with paul, played byjosh o'connor. but the relationship has no future because he is betrothed to somebody of equal status. now, it may look from the outside like a kind of glum, upstairs downstairs downton abbey hybrid. it's nothing of the sort. it's a story about passion and grief and rebirth and artistic creativity. it's very frank in its depiction of intimacy without ever being gratuitous. it's directed by eva husson who is a really interesting director, script by alice birch who is a terrific scriptwriter. hauntingly filmed, the most brilliant score. i did feel i needed to see it twice to get the measure. the first time i liked it, the second time it really struck me as being very, very well done and very moving. and as i said, the story is told over disparate time periods. they are shuffled really well. it's not the film that the poster makes it look like. it's much more full—blooded than that. i think you'd like it too. i'll be interested to know what you think. that's interesting, and i've seen some of alice birch's stage work. as a writer, she's very talented. absolutely brilliant. and the third film. do you have to be a fan of musicalfor this one? it probably doesn't hurt. this is lin—manuel miranda's tribute tojonathan larson, who created the '90s hit rent but died before it could open. starring andrew garfield, based on his show about his own failure to get on in early musical a futuristic sci—fi musical based on nineteen eighty—four. anyway, andrew garfield isjohn, who's got all these things approaching. he has to get the showcase on for his musical, but the most important thing that is ticking is that he is approaching a significant birthday. he says if he doesn't do it by then, his life will be worth anything. i need 10 copies. you're an angel on earth. this is the last album, seriously. i know, thank you. i don't want you to pay. somebody needs to check out this trash. so i hear you moving out ofjohn's place. that's the end of an era. it's very sad. no, no, we're noti talking about that. wait, carol. you're coming next friday, right? what's happening next friday? the superbia workshop. i'm surprised he hasn't mentioned it. guys, this is the biggest break i've ever had. i this is that moment. it is the first time people i are going to see the show that are not just us. good thing you didn't put too much pressure on it or anything. it's true, though. you get to a certain age i and you stop being a writer who waits tables and you become a waiter with hobby. _ you see, it's very energetic. it's very front—foot. it's an adaptation, but it feels like has theatre in it — it has stage theatre in it. but it does feel like everything is at that level and that nothing... fine, ok. so you have to love musicals in the first place, anyway. there are some real earworm songs. it's an interesting kind of self—referential thing about somebody writing a musical about their inability to get a musical produced. clearly lin—manuel miranda loves the stuff, and andrew garfield is terrific. you'd think he had been doing musical theatre forever. apparently when he was asked if he could sing he said, "when do i need to do it?" they said a year. he said, "in that case, yes." he learned pretty much from scratch. it feels very stage—y. it reminded me of times at boys in the band, which is always been better on stage than on screen. again, there's a lot of contrivance in that but on stage it feels unnatural. —— but on stage it feels more natural. but i liked it and it's a very interesting story. it's in cinemas now and on netflix. i suspect its primary audience will be on netflix. sometimes it's a little bit like — just dial it backjust a bit. a bit like jazz hands, intriguing. and your choice as best out? now, you want to see spencer. idid. tell me. i thought what was brilliant about it, much to my surprise, was it was so brilliant at doing claustrophobia. oh, yeah. from within a few minutes in, really, you feel so claustrophobic. yet it's set in these obviously enormous house, beautiful big rooms, massive grounds. but as a viewer, i would go somewhere like that and think all this space, all this freedom. of course, it's the last thing that the central character has. it's the shining. basically it's the shining. she's trapped in it, it's a ghost story. there is literally the ghost of ann boleyn who is kind of appears to her. all the stuff when she goes up to park house and it's a misty moor and wuthering heights. didn't you think that kristen stewart was absolutely brilliant? idid. i sometimes feel a little uncomfortable watching things about the royalfamily and i know pablo lorraine would say it's not exactly about the royal family. it's a fable from a true tragedy. it is a kind of fairy tale. it's a princess in a tower and very much. usually, very clever, very clever. i thought the claustrophobia was genius. and johnny greenwood score. i saw you mention the music. just does all the heavy lifting. i love it. i think of kristin stewart doesn't get a major nomination... ——i think if kristin stewart doesn't get a major nomination... and if this court is to get nominated i will be very cross. i can't believe that won't happen. i can't believe it. dvds, streaming... there's a re—issue mike lee's naked. because the bfa, a full two coming out on dvd and blu—ray. it's back in cinemas now. i know you're mike lee fan, but i know you're not a huge fan of naked. i love so many mike lee films. i haven't watched naked again since i first saw it back in the day, and i suppose i have to. i rememberfeeling very, very uncomfortable watching it. i'll say it is, it hasn't got any less uncomfortable. it's unbelievably quotable but it is very spiky, very aggressive, very misanthropic. certainly in the central character who is played so brilliant. he is brilliant. i remember him being fantastic, the whole cast is fantastic. it is like spending the time on somebody who is right on the very edge of aggression all the time. i think mike lee is a genius. it's always worth revisiting his work. for me, nuts in may is one of the greatest things i've ever seen. when you look back at naked now you go, "wow, that's a powerful piece of work." whether you like it or not, it's a powerful film. it was ground—breaking at the time. very different from so much of his other works. but i could list a few other mike lees that i'd rather sit and watch, i'm afraid. brilliantly, the be a fire doing this whole retrospect —— brilliantly, the bfi is doing this whole retrospect was up his entire career is there for everyone to marvel at. which is fantastic. we need a rainy weekend to just sit and watch the lot, it would be wonderful. just watch nuts in may over and over again. thank you very much, mark. see you next time. that is it for this week. enjoy your cinema going, your streaming, whatever you're up to, and we will have more next week. thanks for being us. goodbye. hello there. a lot of cloud around on saturday. limited sunshine. a similar story today, but i think through the afternoon, we might see a bit more sunshine breaking through for england and wales. there will be some rain around, particularly in the northwest of the country, because the weather front is slowly sinking in say southeast. for this outcome of the wings later, pretty mild for that time of year, particularly towards the western side of the country, picking up some south—westerly winds. a lot of got to start this morning from a limited sunshine, i picked up next and five, we could see a bit more sunshine aggressing than indwells into the afternoon. one or two showers affecting the far southeast in east anglia, the wet and —— the wettest letter will be in scotland, perhaps another nail in. tap temperatures 12-14 another nail in. tap temperatures 12—14 celsius. we could see 15 in belfast. there next week and it will stay generally mild, quite a lot of cloud around with limited sunshine and any wind and rain will be affecting more northern parts of the uk. furthersouth, closer affecting more northern parts of the uk. further south, closer to high—pressure, more settled. this is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. i'm philippa thomas. after two weeks of intense negotiations at the global climate summit, world leaders have agreed a deal, but is it a cop out? the revised agreement means countries must strengthen their emissions—cutting targets for 2030. but a last minute intervention from india waters down the commitment to phase out coal, leaving many nations deeply disappointed. a visibly emotional cop26 president alok sharma apologised for the way in which the talks ended, and the disappointment caused. un secretary general, antonio guterres, calls the final agreement in glasgow an important step, but questions if it's enough to avoid what he calls 'climate catastrophe'.

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