Transcripts For BBCNEWS Climate Change Countdown to COP26 20240709

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would have wanted to go even further than the initial text in the cover text on coal. this is a consequence of our own painful experience with coal. we all know that european wealth was built on coal and if we don't get rid of cole, european death will also be built on coal. we know full well that coal has no future. and this is what we are working on with our own plans, to put an end to coal in europe in the foreseeable future. having said that, of course it will be no surprise to you that what was just read out to us is a further disappointment. not because we want to be right, but because we know the longer you take to get rid of coal, the more burden you put on a natural environment, but also the more burden you put on your economy because coal is not a smart economic proposition either. that is why we want to speed up the exit out of coal. having said all that, if i look at the conclusions we are going to be drawing today we are going to work bloody hard on getting rid of coal and i believe this conclusion will help us work in that direction. the european union will be strongly committed to that, notjust within the european union, but also with our partners worldwide. and for us, the model we have found, together with the united kingdom, the united states, germany and france and south africa should be the template of how we help other coal producing countries to rid themselves of this fossil. mr president, that is what we will want to do in the years to come. so having expressed my disappointment, i want to reiterate what i said in my earlier intervention. this should not stop us from deciding today, even before you have read everything, i have to say it's a historic decision under your leadership, and you can be very proud of that, mr president. applause. i thank the european union for their intervention. i now give the floor to lichtenstein. lipton steyn, have the floor~ — to lichtenstein. lipton steyn, have the floor. . ~ to lichtenstein. lipton steyn, have the floor. ., ~ , ., ~ , the floor. thank you, mr president, and also for — the floor. thank you, mr president, and also for the _ the floor. thank you, mr president, and also for the great _ the floor. thank you, mr president, and also for the great effort - the floor. thank you, mr president, and also for the great effort you - and also for the great effort you made on the text. we are aligned on the statement from switzerland, we are deeply disappointed that this cop26 was not held as a fully inclusive and transparent process. small countries were not equally represented in the bilateral representations... h0 represented in the bilateral representations... represented in the bilateral reresentations... ., , ., representations... no disrespect to the representative _ representations... no disrespect to the representative from _ representations... no disrespect to l the representative from lichtenstein who has now taken the floor, but worth setting out what is going on here because we had quite a significant intervention from india. and you have heard from the switzerland and the european union in response. can you set out what india has put to the floor, and whether or not that is now finding its way into the document? sure. before we had language on phasing out coal and inefficient fossil fuel subsidies. india wants it changed to phasing down coal use but still phasing down coal use but still phasing out fossil fuel phasing down coal use but still phasing out fossilfuel subsidies. phasing out fossil fuel subsidies. also phasing out fossilfuel subsidies. also inserting a bit of text that basically says for the poorest countries like india, they would like targeted support from the west to try to do that. so we have actually had a model last week on what such a deal would look like, with south africa, where the us, the eu and the uk will put money into south africa to help it get off cold faster and build a system reliant on renewable energy. the indian prime minister is saying, we are a poor country, we should not be expected to go as fast as some of the rich countries, and we are going to need some assistance to do that. it got big support, i think it's going to go through. interesting, 0k, big support, i think it's going to go through. interesting, ok, let's go through. interesting, ok, let's go back to the floor. thank you to mexico for that intervention. i now call the marshall_ intervention. i now call the marshall islands to take the floor. marshall_ marshall islands to take the floor. marshall islands, you have the floor~ — marshall islands, you have the floor. . ~' , ., marshall islands, you have the floor. . ~ , ., , floor. thank you, president. on behalf of the _ floor. thank you, president. on behalf of the marshall - floor. thank you, president. on behalf of the marshall islands, | floor. thank you, president. onj behalf of the marshall islands, i wish to read into the record our profound disappointment with the change in the language on coal from phase down. i ask that this be reflected in the report of this meeting. this commitment on coal had been a bright spot in this package. it is one of the things we were hoping to carry out of here and back home with pride, and it hurts deeply to say that bright spot dimmed. we accept this change with the greatest reluctance. we do so only, and i really want to stress, only because there are critical elements of this package that people in my country need. as a lifeline for their future. thank you. applause. thank you, marshall islands, for your— thank you, marshall islands, for your intervention. fiji, you have the floor~ — your intervention. fi'i, you have the floor. . ~ your intervention. fi'i, you have the floor. ., ~ your intervention. fi'i, you have the floor.— your intervention. fi'i, you have the floor. ., ~ , ., ~ , the floor. thank you, mr president. a few days — the floor. thank you, mr president. a few days ago. _ the floor. thank you, mr president. a few days ago, four _ the floor. thank you, mr president. a few days ago, four days ago, - the floor. thank you, mr president. | a few days ago, four days ago, when we talked about some language on loss and damage, we were told we were introducing something at the last minute. it's rather ironic that just about two hours ago, we discussed it and there is an amendment now being made to that, and that i would call a last minute, without any due process being followed. i think the point of the matter is 1.5 degrees has always been a red line for us, particularly in low—lying countries, island states. what we would like to express is notjust our astonishment but our immense disappointment in the manner in which this has been introduced. secondly, we seem to be dealing with various clauses in a disjointed fashion. there is no confluence between the earlier clauses prior to this talking about the 1.5 degrees, and indeed the impact on our ability to reach 1.5 degrees by having what we are now calling a down which has no demonstrable measurements, no methodology as to how we will do it. i think that is critically important, and we need to remember that. and i hope all the other countries would have the capacity and the ability to do so, and will in fact do so, because small island states like ours do not have the capacity and we are reliant on all the other countries that believe in phasing out coal, will do that for us. thank you. thank you, fiji, foryour intervention. antigua and barbuda, we will_ intervention. antigua and barbuda, we will now— intervention. antigua and barbuda, we will now take your intervention. thank— we will now take your intervention. thank you. — we will now take your intervention. thank you, mr president. the 39 leaders of the alliance of small island states, in september, signed a declaration to urge major emitters, particularly the g20, to phase out all fossil fuel subsidies by 2023. we were disappointed to find the addition of the inefficiency from the g20 language, but can accept that this is as far as we can go today. the challenge with securing today's historic commitment for the unfccc to phase out inefficient fossil fuels, despite knowing this is required to stay on a 1.5 degrees global pathway, deeply concerns us. the challenges of the energy transition are real, and we recognise the political risks that come with the climate change response, and the nature of the fossil fuel industry in the world today, are real. we need to double down on retraining workforces so that this is an easy decision to make, going forward. we appreciate the outcome of today, although we reiterate the challenges around the process. thank you. thank ou, around the process. thank you. thank you. antigua — around the process. thank you. thank you. antigua and _ around the process. thank you. thank you, antigua and barbuda, _ around the process. thank you. thank you, antigua and barbuda, for - around the process. thank you. thank you, antigua and barbuda, for your intervention. may ijust say to all delegates, i apologise for the way this process has unfolded. i am deeply— this process has unfolded. i am deeply sorry. i also understand the deep _ deeply sorry. i also understand the deep disappointment, but i think as you have _ deep disappointment, but i think as you have noted, it's also vital that we protect— you have noted, it's also vital that we protect this package. applause. delegates, thank you. thank you, friends _ delegates, thank you. thank you, friends we — delegates, thank you. thank you, friends. we need to proceed, thank you very— friends. we need to proceed, thank you very much. so given everything, i you very much. so given everything, i propose _ you very much. so given everything, i propose that the revised proposal is adopted — i propose that the revised proposal is adopted as orally amended, a revised — is adopted as orally amended, a revised version, a written version will be _ revised version, a written version will be issued shortly. hearing no objection. — will be issued shortly. hearing no objection, it is so decided. applause. sol so i now invite the cop to sol now invite the cop to consider agenda _ sol now invite the cop to consider agenda item five, reporting from parties _ agenda item five, reporting from parties not included in annex one of the convention. this was considered the convention. this was considered the sn, _ the convention. this was considered the sn, and — the convention. this was considered the sbi, and i want to thank their chair— the sbi, and i want to thank their chairand— the sbi, and i want to thank their chair and parties for the hard work and forwarding to the cop the progress _ and forwarding to the cop the progress of their work on the revision— progress of their work on the revision of the terms of reference of the _ revision of the terms of reference of the consultation group by a group of the consultation group by a group of experts, — of the consultation group by a group of experts, after which i undertook further— of experts, after which i undertook further consultations. i invite the cop to _ further consultations. i invite the cop to adopt the draught decision entitled _ cop to adopt the draught decision entitled revised terms of reference of the _ entitled revised terms of reference of the consultancy group of experts contained _ of the consultancy group of experts contained in document fccc. .. hearing document fccc... hearing no objection. _ document fccc... hearing no objection, it is so decided. please stay in _ objection, it is so decided. please stay in your— objection, it is so decided. please stay in your seats, as we will now be convening the cma it immediately. the 12th _ be convening the cma it immediately. the 12th meeting the cop is suspended and i now declare open the 12th meeting of the c m a3. the order— 12th meeting of the c m a3. the order of— 12th meeting of the c m a3. the order of agenda items is posted on the screen — order of agenda items is posted on the screen. i now invite the cma to adopt— the screen. i now invite the cma to adopt the _ the screen. i now invite the cma to adopt the glasgow climate pact contained in document fccc 2021 l 16. contained in document fccc 2021 l to at— contained in document fccc 2021 l to at this — contained in document fccc 2021 l 16. at this point i recall the oral amendment made to the decision that wasjust_ amendment made to the decision that wasjust adopted under amendment made to the decision that was just adopted under the amendment made to the decision that wasjust adopted under the cop, document— wasjust adopted under the cop, document l 13, wasjust adopted under the cop, document l13, and i wasjust adopted under the cop, document l 13, and i propose that it also be _ document l 13, and i propose that it also be applied to document fccc cma, _ also be applied to document fccc cma, l_ also be applied to document fccc cma, l 16, — also be applied to document fccc cma, l16, and i propose id be adopted — cma, l16, and i propose id be adopted as amended. hearing no objection— adopted as amended. hearing no objection is, is so decided. i see iseea i see a number of parties would like to intervene — i see a number of parties would like to intervene at this point. sol would — to intervene at this point. sol would now— to intervene at this point. sol would now like to give the floor to antigua _ would now like to give the floor to antigua and barbuda.— antigua and barbuda. thank you, mr president. antigua and barbuda. thank you, mr president i— antigua and barbuda. thank you, mr president. i request _ antigua and barbuda. thank you, mr president. i request that _ antigua and barbuda. thank you, mr president. i request that the - antigua and barbuda. thank you, mr president. i request that the cop - president. i request that the cop president. i request that the cop president firmly acknowledge the g 77 and china position on loss and damage tabled in this session. the position is to establish the glasgow loss and damage facility under a financial mechanism and to lay out a process with workshops, technical meetings, technical papers, submissions from parties and inclusion of other stakeholders, as well as inputs to include the work of the experts on action and support. of the experts on action and su ort. , ., ~ ., support. listening to the antigua and barbuda _ support. listening to the antigua and barbuda representative - support. listening to the antigua - and barbuda representative speaking in behalf of the g 77 countries plus china, a section relating to loss and damage, which we know these countries are deeply unhappy about. at the moment, the text suggests there will be a dialogue about loss and damage, which is the first time it has appeared in the text, which is significant, but no money attached to it and no timescale either, although they are talking about the next two years. that is going on at the moment. apologies if some of this appears extremely technical and complex. it is, because don't forget, we are talking

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