draft climate deal and assess how much it weakens the committments to cut fossil fuels. good morning, i'm a victoria derbyshire. we're live up the foreign office today, where it is day 20 of richard ratcliffe�*s hunger strike. he tells me he is outraged at the way he believes the uk government is letting his wife's detention in tiran drag on. and i'm luxmy gopal with this morning's other top stories on the bbc news channel. three people are missing after trying to cross the channel in kayaks. a thousand migrants arrived in the uk in small boats yesterday, a record numberfor a single day. britney spears could regain control of her personal life and finances today — when a court decides whether to overturn an order which put her father in charge. welcome to glasgow on the bbc news coverage of cop26, the united nations climate change conference. in the last couple of hours, a new draft agreement has been published — it hasn't been signed off yet — but it's our latest update on where negotiations, going on behind me, appear to be heading. one change in the new draft is an apparent softening of government requirements to reduce fossilfuel and coal use. but there is stronger language about helping and paying poorer countries to fight climate change. and a request for countries to update their climate action plans on an annual basis remains in play. the un chief antonio guterres has already said today that the summit would probably not achieve its aims and the goal of limiting global warming to 1.5c is on "life support". with that in mind, let's remind ourselves of what this summit set out to achieve. delegates from all over the world came here to glasgow with four goals in mind. the first is to "secure global net zero by the mid—century and keep 1.5 degrees within reach". net zero is the point at which the amount of greenhouses gases being produced is no greater than the amount being removed. countries will need to phase out coal more rapidly, stop deforestation and speed up the switch to electric vehicles. the second is to "adapt to protect communities and natural habitats". this is about protecting or restoring ecosytems, as well as developing a more resilient infrastructure, to protect communities from the impacts of climate change. the third goal is to "mobilise finance". developed countries are being asked to pledge at least $100 billion in climate finance per year including working with private sector. the final goal is "world together to delvier". this is focussed on governments collaborating to finalise what's known as the paris rule book — agreed in the paris climate accord in 2015. so they have been the goals be at the heart of negotiations over the past 12 days. the ongoing challenge has been to get nearly every country in the world, all with their own individual set of circumstances, to agree on a common pathway forward. it's hoped that agreement will be reached by the end of the summit, which is today — although things could slip into the weekend. let's talk to our chief political correspondent, adam fleming. hello to you. talk is again going into the early hours here in glasgow. do you think this latest draft is a significant step forward in some senses, a step backwards in others? it in some senses, a step backwards in others? , . , in some senses, a step backwards in others? , ., , ., ., others? it is a bit of a mixed bag. but i think— others? it is a bit of a mixed bag. but | think the — others? it is a bit of a mixed bag. but | think the cop _ others? it is a bit of a mixed bag. but i think the cop presidency - others? it is a bit of a mixed bag. | but i think the cop presidency will be pleased that some of the ambitious stuff is still in there. for example, there are still a paragraph saying that countries should come back to the next climate change conference, egypt, next year, with more ambitious plans for reducing their emissions of greenhouse gases, which the scientists and analysts say is crucial if the world is going to hit this goal of limiting global temperature increases to 1.5 degrees by the end of the century. now, there is an arcane debate going on behind—the—scenes about the language around that. in an initial draft, it said countries will be urged to make those more ambitious pledges. that has been changed to countries are requested to make those changes. nobody can agree whether that is a strengthening of language or a softening of language. i think it may end up being in the eye of the beholder. also, another key thing thatis beholder. also, another key thing that is still in there is this pledged to phase out the use of coal power, and to reduce the subsidies on fossilfuels. that power, and to reduce the subsidies on fossil fuels. that sentence is still in there, but it has been tweaked a little bit do not include all coal power. again, in the eye of the beholder, is that still ambitious, even though it is slightly less ambitious than the original draft? where there is still a whole series of sticking points is on the issue of finance and money. that is wealthy countries sending funds to poorer countries to help them deal with the effects of climate change that is happening now, to help them future proof their economies to the effects of climate change that is coming, and also to help them adapt to more efficient and green energy systems. there is still a lot of wrangling going on there, and still not a final text on that. finance ministers are going to meet in about two hours to try to hammer out a compromise on that. then that will be added to the draft text, and we will get a better sense of exact where we are. i think alok sharma, the cop president is planning to do what they call a stock—take, where we will see him in public, in the big meeting room, seeing how things are going. then there will be a frantic series of shuttle diplomatic negotiations between negotiators, maybe even world leaders picking up the phone to try to get the deal over the line. even though everyone says this will probably run past the deadline, the cop presidency are still sticking to their lines up this thing will wrap up at 6pm tonight, which i think seems very optimistic. i wasjust about which i think seems very optimistic. i was just about to say that to you. it does seem optimistic when you consider how technical the language is. i wasjust looking earlier today at some of the draft information coming out, and the language is incredibly technical. obviously we try to translate that into everyday language, for everyone to understand. unless you are a specialist in all of this, it is quite hard to read through. but do you really think it might have a chance of finishing today, or willing to go into the weekend? i think the paris agreement, the last big cop think the paris agreement, the last big cop that we saw, that came after an extended period of discussions as well? i an extended period of discussions as well? . ., ., ., , ., well? i am not going to blag it, we will have to _ well? i am not going to blag it, we will have to see. _ well? i am not going to blag it, we will have to see. the _ well? i am not going to blag it, we will have to see. the drafts - well? i am not going to blag it, we will have to see. the drafts didn'tl will have to see. the drafts didn't come in until late, we were pressing refresh, and when they came, there were two mega documents, for incredibly bureaucratic reasons. you have to compare that to the previous draft. then there were subsidiary texts, and some of them were not complete. even getting your head around it, for those paid to do it, is difficult. it brings us to the point of how we willjudge this cop, is a success or not. one of the things that could judge if it is a success or not is the pledge for countries to come back with enhanced climate change contributions, which means the big, dramatic outcome of this meeting may be more meetings. which, if you are marching for climate change or you are a world leader, seeing the sea level rise, and your territory disappearing, that will seem like a little bit of a disappointing outcome. it also means we won't really be able to judge the true success of glasgow until people go to egypt, this time next year, and we see, do china, do brazil, do india, to the us, forward with more ambitious pledges to reduce greenhouse gases. that is quite a challenge to explain, that will be quite a challenge for people to understand. it will be fascinating to see who shouts the loudest, and the most convincing, when this conference does end. because they will be the ones that are fine if it has been a success or not. ., ., ., ~ ., ., ~ not. ok, on that note, adam, thank ou ve not. ok, on that note, adam, thank you very much- _ not. ok, on that note, adam, thank you very much. adam _ not. ok, on that note, adam, thank you very much. adam fleming, - not. ok, on that note, adam, thank| you very much. adam fleming, chief political correspondent. our science correspondent victoria gill is with me now. that is the politics, looking at the science, how different is the latest draft from the first one? it is science, how different is the latest draft from the first one?— draft from the first one? it is a lot more complete, _ draft from the first one? it is a lot more complete, which - draft from the first one? it is a lot more complete, which you | draft from the first one? it is a - lot more complete, which you would expect. we would have expected to see two three drafts before we get to the end of this. gives us an idea that the urgency has been upped. there are still an insistence from the presidency that this will finish today. you know, the projections we have heard from people over in the blue zone are saying that probably saturday afternoon, some saying sunday. so, in terms of what it does, it puts us on a clearer path now. we have a set of road maps for the future in terms of how we are going to tackle this issue. so, there are some key highlights. there is going to be a process of going through this document, line by line. some key highlights being picked out. one is strengthening on the finance. that is basically how rich countries are being asked to stump up countries are being asked to stump up to help poorer countries deal with the impacts of climate change. some of that language has been strengthened. the language has been interestingly weakened around fossil fuel subsidies and coal. that is very interesting, in terms of the science. because these are the things that cause those greenhouse gas emissions. this is the stuff you need to be getting rid of, globally, in order to really make that kind of slash emissions and tone down the planetary thermostat. in the first draft, we had a phase—out proposal for colon subsidies of fossil fuels. now there is this addition of the word inefficient subsidies on fossil fuels. one energy policy expert said thatis fuels. one energy policy expert said that is essentially a get out of jail free card for economies that are very dependent on fossil fuels. they can say that our subsidies are efficient. i they can say that our subsidies are efficient. ., , ., , , efficient. i of the beholder stuff a . ain? efficient. i of the beholder stuff again? exactly. _ efficient. i of the beholder stuff again? exactly. it— efficient. i of the beholder stuff again? exactly. it gives - efficient. i of the beholder stuff again? exactly. it gives you - efficient. i of the beholder stuff again? exactly. it gives you anl efficient. i of the beholder stuff - again? exactly. it gives you an idea ofthe again? exactly. it gives you an idea of the importance _ again? exactly. it gives you an idea of the importance of _ again? exactly. it gives you an idea of the importance of this _ again? exactly. it gives you an idea of the importance of this language. it will be gone through with a fine tooth comb, line by line, and everybody in the room has to agree before it can be signed off on. there seems to be strengths and weaknesses. but it does not put us on a path now to keep temperature increase by the end of the century to 1.5 degrees.— to 1.5 degrees. that is the key question. _ to 1.5 degrees. that is the key question, does _ to 1.5 degrees. that is the key question, does it _ to 1.5 degrees. that is the key question, does it keep - to 1.5 degrees. that is the key question, does it keep us - to 1.5 degrees. that is the key question, does it keep us on l to 1.5 degrees. that is the key - question, does it keep us on track to limit global warming. that's what it is all about.— it is all about. exactly. the mood music in the _ it is all about. exactly. the mood music in the room _ it is all about. exactly. the mood music in the room seems - it is all about. exactly. the mood music in the room seems to - it is all about. exactly. the mood music in the room seems to be l it is all about. exactly. the mood i music in the room seems to be that the sense of urgency has been increased, the pace has been accelerated in terms of emission cuts. that real targeting of fossil fuels. that is really important. overall, the answer to the question is simply no. if you crunch all of the numbers, all of the numbers in the numbers, all of the numbers in the document, it does not get is on track to limit temperature rises to 1.5 degrees by the end of the century. we talked a lot about 1.5 degrees, that is what the science tells us, it clearly tells us that 145 degrees is the threshold beyond which we are facing the more dangerous impacts of climate change. you keep it to below 1.5, we are right about you keep it to below 1.5, we are rightabout1.1 you keep it to below 1.5, we are right about 1.1 now, keep it below 1.5, you don't switch off the impacts of climate change, it is an incremental thing. impacts of climate change, it is an incrementalthing. but impacts of climate change, it is an incremental thing. but the headline, the important thing about this draft that has been decided is that, really, the stakes still need to be upped. ace needs to go faster. it does not get is on track to the critical point.— does not get is on track to the critical point. victoria, thank you very much- _ advisers to the president of the un climate summit have warned that the negotiations — due to end today — won't prevent global temperatures rising more than one point five degrees above pre—industrial levels. the experts — known as friends of cop — say the current text is too weak. they've called for a clear admission that emissions will continue to rise under current policies. graham satchell reports. we are calling on world leaders to grasp this final chance. it is crunch time at the glasgow conference. protesters making it clear, the outcome couldn't be more important. a matter of life and death. time is running out. we are not there yet on the most critical issues. there is still a lot more work to be done. that work is going on in quiet corners. the draft agreement pored over, line by line, by every country in the world. so what still needs to be decided? the most fundamental question, cutting greenhouse gases. they're still going up when the science is clear they need to be falling. financial aid for the poorest nations. it was promised more than a decade ago, but still hasn't been delivered. and how often countries should update their plans for going green. should it be every year? there have been some successes. a plan to cut methane, although not all countries have signed up. a call to end the use of coal, the dirtiest fossil fuel, but again, no binding agreements. and an assurance to end deforestation by 2030. will it happen? we don't believe that promises made by financial companies to end deforestation will actually prevent trees from being cut or burned down. we simply don't believe it. i'm actually here to beg you to prove us wrong. we desperately need you to prove us wrong. please prove us wrong. another protest as climate activists sound the alarm. the worry for these protesters, that there is no agreed date for ending the use of oil and gas. the fact that we are not talking about phasing fossil fuels, even at any stage, to us indicates that the process has fundamentally failed. because that is probably the largest issue we have to confront. it's not even on the table. this morning, a warning from one of the key advisory groups at the conference that what's been agreed so far won't be enough to stop temperatures rising. graham satchell, bbc news. well i'm joined now by international climate change and human rights lawyer tessa khan, she is the founder and director of uplift which is an organisation that is working to help the ukshift to a fossil—free future. also named by time magazine is one of 15 women leading the fight against climate change. thank you forjoining us. i want to get your reaction to the latest detail that we have in this second draft of an agreement. nothing is signed in stone yet, as we know. around fossil fuels, one professor of climate science is saying that it's a get out of jail free science is saying that it's a get out ofjail free card for some countries. out ofjail free card for some countries-_ out ofjail free card for some countries. �* , ., , , countries. it's really disappointing to see that the _ countries. it's really disappointing to see that the first _ countries. it's really disappointing to see that the first time - countries. it's really disappointing to see that the first time that - to see that the first time that fossil fuels, to see that the first time that fossilfuels, which to see that the first time that fossil fuels, which are the drivers of climate change, are being recognised in this draft decision, that the language is now being watered down. it is also at odds with, you know, probably one of the most promising of elements that has happened during the entire conference, the launch yesterday of a diplomatic initiative, the beyond oil and gas alliance, a club of countries coming out to say that we have got to move past oil and gas, we've got to keep oil and gas in the ground if we are going to stay within safe climate limits and that critical 1.5 degrees threshold. noticeably absent from that where the uk government and the scottish cup and. the uk government and the scottish cu and. , ., , , ., the uk government and the scottish cuand. , .,, ,_ cup and. yes, not signed up to buy the hosts- — cup and. yes, not signed up to buy the hosts. now, _ cup and. yes, not signed up to buy the hosts. now, do _ cup and. yes, not signed up to buy the hosts. now, do you _ cup and. yes, not signed up to buy the hosts. now, do you think - cup and. yes, not signed up to buy the hosts. now, do you think the l the hosts. now, do you think the cambo oilfield, the proposed oil field near shetland, do you think thatis field near shetland, do you think that is the reason that the uk has not signed up to this? a lot of pressure on uk to say no, but they haven't done that yet? it is pressure on uk to say no, but they haven't done that yet?— haven't done that yet? it is one of the obvious _ haven't done that yet? it is one of the obvious reasons, _ haven't done that yet? it is one of the obvious reasons, but - haven't done that yet? it is one of the obvious reasons, but the - haven't done that yet? it is one of| the obvious reasons, but the truth is that the uk government is considering approving 30 new oil and gas fields in the next few years. its entire policy and legal framework at the moment is geared towards continuing extraction of oil and gas. we have a policy in the uk of maximising economic recovery of offshore oil and gas, which means if it is profitable, it is coming out of the ground. the government provides billions of pounds in subsidies to the sector every year. so, it is acting in a way that is completely at odds with what we know needs to happen, which is keeping oil and gas on the ground. xyour oil and gas on the ground. your organisation, _ oil and gas on the ground. your organisation, uplift, _ oil and gas on the ground. your organisation, uplift, is- oil and gas on the ground. your organisation, uplift, is calling for a just transition away from fossil fuel production. what do you mean by that? we fuel production. what do you mean by that? ~ ., ., ., ., ~ that? we mean that we need to make sure that, that? we mean that we need to make sure that. as — that? we mean that we need to make sure that. as we _ that? we mean that we need to make sure that, as we transition _ that? we mean that we need to make sure that, as we transition away - sure that, as we transition away from oil and gas, that we also protect their workers in the industry and the communities that are currently reliant on the oil and gas sector, especially in light of this country's experience with the phase—out of coal, which certainly has left economic and social scarring and so many communities. but we have seen, in the last year, that there is more and more of a call from people within the workforce for support to rhys gill and transfer out of that industry, because they realise it doesn't have a future. ., _, , , a future. the oil companies behind cambo a future. the oil companies behind combo say — a future. the oil companies behind combo say they — a future. the oil companies behind cambo say they are _ a future. the oil companies behind cambo say they are committed - a future. the oil companies behind cambo say they are committed to l cambo say they are committed to transferring from oil and gas, and it was foolish to say we could just run away from oil and gas. do they have a point, orare run away from oil and gas. do they have a point, or are you at complete odds with what they in have a point, or are you at complete odds with what they— odds with what they in short, completely — odds with what they in short, completely at _ odds with what they in short, completely at odds. - odds with what they in short, completely at odds. the - odds with what they in short, completely at odds. the uk | completely at odds. the uk government, as cop president, commissioned a report by the international energy agency, the world's leading body. they are certainly not radical climate activists. they concluded if we are to stay in 1.5 degrees, there is no room for any more oil, gas or coal develop in. the second thing to say is that we already have hundreds of oil and gas fields in the country that are in production, and will continue to produce four years to come. so not approving cambo oil field is not going to mean that suddenly we don't have any oil or gas in the country to come. thank ou ve gas in the country to come. thank you very much _ gas in the country to come. thank you very much for _ gas in the country to come. thank you very much for your— gas in the country to come. thank you very much for your thoughts l you very much for your thoughts today. founderand you very much for your thoughts today. founder and director of uplift, to human rights and climate lawyer. you are watching bbc news. we'll have more on climate later in the hour, including a special report on wildfires in the us — but now let's get the latest from victoria derbyshire, who is in whitehall for us this morning. yes, welcome to london. it is drizzling. we alive at the foreign office, because it is day 20 of richard ratcliffe's hunger strike. he is on hand hunger strike to protest at his wife's continued detention in iran. nazanin zaghari—ratcliffe was arrested at tehran airport, with her little girl, just one and three quarters of the time, and accused by the iranians of spying. it is something that she totally denies. she was given a five year sentence, which actually ended earlier this year. literally within a week, the iranians had charged and sentenced her again, to another year injail. right now, zaghari—ratcliffe is allowed to live in her mum and dads house in tehran, essentially under house in tehran, essentially under house arrest. but she could be sent back to jail at any moment, because she lost her appeal against that sentence. we are going to spend some time with as to ratcliffe this morning. before we hearfrom him, we are going to show you some of the messages, some of the banners that are here. there is a visitors book as well. look at these, prime minister, what happened to the moral compass, what happened to your leadership? how long will this continue? let me get on the side. don't forget, we are just a family standing in front of a prime minister, asking him to keep his word. you may want to send a message to mr ratcliffe and his wife this morning. please do. you can do that on twitter. many of you have already done that. i will read some of them to him a little later. before we hear from to him a little later. before we hearfrom him, let's show to him a little later. before we hear from him, let's show you where hear from him, let's show you where he has been living for the last 19 nights, 20 days. this is his tent, he has been sleeping here every night. alongside him, a couple more, where family members or supporters are sleeping to keep him company and look after him, obviously. and for a little bit of security. you might see this poster saying free anusha, another british national, he is 67 and is injail in tehran, the jail that nazanin was in, also accused of spying. he completely denies that. we will talk to his daughter later. ijust want to we will talk to his daughter later. i just want to show you, bear with me because of the drizzle, the picture might cut up, ijust want to show how close we are to the foreign office. it is right here. 20 or 25 steps away. everybody who works at the foreign office walks up the pavement and will see mr ratcliffe sitting there, calmly, in a composed manner. on day five of his hunger strike he was called in to have a meeting with the latest foreign secretary. he left that meeting, saying that he felt deflated. on day 19, he was called in to have a meeting with a foreign office minister. he left that meeting, saying he felt depressed. there have been five foreign secretaries since mrs zaghari—ratcliffe was detained. one of those is now the prime minister. he livesjust one of those is now the prime minister. he lives just through die. it is literally a two—minute walk from here, down to whitehall, laughed and left again. —— he lives just through there. there has been no communication from borisjohnson with mr ratcliffe in the time he has been living here. i have a statement from the foreign office. obviously we asked the foreign secretary on the foreign office ministerfor an interview. they declined. they gave us this statement. the foreign office engages with the families of british detainees in iran on a regular basis. support is available to them 24 hours a day, seven days a week. since his hunger strike started, richard ratcliffe has met the foreign secretary, cabinet minister cleverley and senior officials. the foreign secretary continues to work to secure the release of foreign nationals detained in iran. she spoke in november, raising of the cases of zaghari—ratcliffe and anusha. hello, thank you very much for spending some time with us this morning. how are you feeling physically? yes. some time with us this morning. how are you feeling physically?— are you feeling physically? yes, 0k. definitely getting — are you feeling physically? yes, 0k. definitely getting weaker _ are you feeling physically? yes, 0k. definitely getting weaker as - are you feeling physically? yes, 0k. definitely getting weaker as the - definitely getting weaker as the days go on, definitely weary, going to bed earlier, getting up later. feel quite creaky in my body. quite cranky, if that makes sense. yes, it feels like this is a middle—aged man camping on the streets. it's getting quite hard going. what camping on the streets. it's getting quite hard going-— camping on the streets. it's getting quite hard going. what is not eating for re quite hard going. what is not eating for pretty much _ quite hard going. what is not eating for pretty much three _ quite hard going. what is not eating for pretty much three weeks - quite hard going. what is not eating for pretty much three weeks now. for pretty much three weeks now doing to your body?— for pretty much three weeks now doing to your body? obviously i am losin: a doing to your body? obviously i am losing a lot — doing to your body? obviously i am losing a lot of _ doing to your body? obviously i am losing a lot of weight. _ doing to your body? obviously i am losing a lot of weight. i _ doing to your body? obviously i am losing a lot of weight. i look - doing to your body? obviously i am losing a lot of weight. i look a - doing to your body? obviously i am losing a lot of weight. i look a lot i losing a lot of weight. i look a lot thinner. definitely slowed down a lot. things like feeling the cold more, fingers and toes. that's why i've got gloves on and very thick socks. yes, obviously at some point the body works the role the reserves it has and starts to make choices about which bits to protect. i have been doing a hunger strike in the winter, which is a less sensible idea than doing it in the summer. i have been reading about hunger strikes, and as far as i can tell you are now in the danger zone. i think after day 12 or 15, things are getting serious.— getting serious. yes. i think no hunter getting serious. yes. i think no hunger strike _ getting serious. yes. i think no hunger strike is _ getting serious. yes. i think no hunger strike is healthy. - getting serious. yes. i think no hunger strike is healthy. the i getting serious. yes. i think no - hunger strike is healthy. the longer it goes on, the less healthy it gets. that's right. certainly beyond day 15, it gets to the body. i have a family doctor that is checking me quite carefully for things like blood pressure and pulse, responses, dizziness and so on. all of the signs it has gone too far. so far, he has happy enough for me to continue. it is not a concern. we are going _ continue. it is not a concern. we are going to _ continue. it is not a concern. we are going to talk to your mum and the family doctor, your brother—in—law, in a few minutes' time. do you mind me asking how your mental health is? in time. do you mind me asking how your mental health is?— mental health is? in my head, it feels fine- _ mental health is? in my head, it feels fine. perhaps _ mental health is? in my head, it feels fine. perhaps i _ mental health is? in my head, it feels fine. perhaps i am - mental health is? in my head, it feels fine. perhaps i am slurringj mental health is? in my head, it. feels fine. perhaps i am slurring my words sometimes, that is a warning sign. but, yes, ifeel reasonably upbeat. we have lots of people that have come along and shared their concerns. it feels like, you know, we are making a clear statement to the government, which is being heard. the danger with the hunger strike is that your body withdraws. also your mind does. you end up getting more stubborn, less able to judge your own actions, where you are, and that is why it is important to have someone who can intervene from the outside.— from the outside. when i was here earlier in the _ from the outside. when i was here earlier in the week, _ from the outside. when i was here earlier in the week, you _ from the outside. when i was here earlier in the week, you talked - from the outside. when i was here earlier in the week, you talked to l earlier in the week, you talked to me about getting to that stubborn point. what does that mean in practical terms for you? i point. what does that mean in practical terms for you?- point. what does that mean in practical terms for you? i find i am not very good _ practical terms for you? i find i am not very good at — practical terms for you? i find i am not very good at diverting - practical terms for you? i find i am not very good at diverting from - practical terms for you? i find i am i not very good at diverting from what i want to do, thank you very much. i can also get wrapped up in the details, ratherthan can also get wrapped up in the details, rather than bigger things. yes, learning to not get cross about small things. i have to discipline myself more. small things. i have to discipline myself more-— small things. i have to discipline m self more. ., ., ., ., myself more. you mentioned a moment or two might — myself more. you mentioned a moment or two might the — myself more. you mentioned a moment or two might the potential— myself more. you mentioned a moment or two might the potential of _ or two might the potential of slowing your words or slowing down. it seems extraordinary to me that you are so coherent, so eloquent, after three weeks without food. i think it is diminishing. i find if i get think it is diminishing. ifind if i get asked a tricky question, you might see that this morning, i struggle a bit more. but, yes, i think so far it is holding up. i remember that i did a previous one and i was really struggling with interviews. it is also later in the day. i am all right in the mornings, later the day goes on, the more obvious the effects of the hunger strike are. do obvious the effects of the hunger strike are. , ., ~ obvious the effects of the hunger strike are. ~ ., strike are. do you think you have some personal— strike are. do you think you have some personal characteristics . strike are. do you think you have. some personal characteristics that also help you survive this, and survive the draw of the separation from nazanin? i survive the draw of the separation from nazanin?— survive the draw of the separation from nazanin? i am evidently quite stubborn, that _ from nazanin? i am evidently quite stubborn, that has _ from nazanin? i am evidently quite stubborn, that has come _ from nazanin? i am evidently quite stubborn, that has come through. l from nazanin? i am evidently quite stubborn, that has come through. i probably try to live life one day at a time. those who follow our story on your show and others will have seen that have been lots of ups and downs, lots of times when we thought things were going to break through, and lots of times when things felt terrible. i've tried not to live those too keenly. often myjob is to go on the airwaves and say this has happen, and push the government to do better. then afterwards, a delayed emotional reaction, when we feel where we are. you know, that is a coping strategy. in some ways, that helps. maybe in some ways that stores up trouble for later on. we will see when we started counselling after this is over. haifa will see when we started counselling after this is over.— after this is over. how is your seven-year-old, _ after this is over. how is your seven-year-old, gabriella? l after this is over. how is your i seven-year-old, gabriella? she after this is over. how is your - seven-year-old, gabriella? she was seven—year—old, gabriella? she was here at half term. how is she now, potentially seeing you on the tv news like this question she is at school at the moment so hopefully she is not watching television. she came down quite a lot during half term and that was definitely disconcerting. having nightmares and sleepless nights, the first couple of nights. being down here, and some of her classmates came down and that helped, they decorated the camp. but now it is a bit like visiting a sick relative in hospital, you see someone, you expect to see them in a certain way and it is upsetting for the child. i think we have to be careful about how far we take it and how upsetting it is for her. she how far we take it and how upsetting it is for her-— it is for her. she has grown up with this, of course. _ it is for her. she has grown up with this, of course. i— it is for her. she has grown up with this, of course. i mentioned - it is for her. she has grown up with this, of course. i mentioned in - this, of course. i mentioned in the introduction she was nearly to years old when her mother, your wife, was arrested at the airport in tehran. how does she cope with that? good cuestion. how does she cope with that? good question- i — how does she cope with that? good question. i think— how does she cope with that? good question. i think that _ how does she cope with that? good question. i think that is _ how does she cope with that? (limp. question. i think that is right, in some ways, when you are one and three quarters years old, you cannot explain. she was traumatised at the beginning, she would cry every night, she would go to the picture on the mantelpiece and point to the wedding photograph of mummy and would go to the door and at some point she adjusted to the reality of being brought up by her grandparents for a bit. that became her life. she got to see nazanin in prison periodically, she would be taken into solitary confinement, the parents or hoods over their heads together, she was so small, she did not understand and the interrogators would insist on taking gabriella and playing with her first and then they let her mum do it and at some point she picked up emotionally she should not play with them, she should just play with mummy and daddy. over the years, clearly when she came back, she came back when she was just over five, that was a real shock for her, she could speak farsi fluently, she had lost her english. she came back to school. really threw herself into school and learning and speaking english, and that way, migrant children do, they almost don't want to speak theirformer children do, they almost don't want to speak their former language, anywhere near school and they want to show. but i think now, she is feeling settled into being in west hampstead where we live, part of the community and feeling normal but she is desperate to be normal rather than to be... but she will ask of an as mummy coming home? when can mummy pick me up from the school gates? how do you answer that?— pick me up from the school gates? how do you answer that? when money is cominu how do you answer that? when money is coming home. _ how do you answer that? when money is coming home. i _ how do you answer that? when money is coming home, i do _ how do you answer that? when money is coming home, i do not— how do you answer that? when money is coming home, i do not know. - how do you answer that? when money is coming home, i do not know. we i is coming home, i do not know. we got to the end of nazanin �*s sentence, that was in march, we were counting down almost like an advent calendar and that was very hard for her. when we got to the end and mummy did not come. and i did not have an answerfor mummy did not come. and i did not have an answer for her. and that disorientation, you know, it did not happen, christmas did not come, effectively. now i think she takes or promises about mummy coming home with a pinch of salt. she knows that we keep battling. she knows she is part of that battle. at the same time, life goes on. the conversation i had been having with her is when will the hunger strike finish, when will the hunger strike finish, when will camping finish, when can we go swimming? it is the good things that will happen afterwards and when you're seven, you live in the moment. you're seven, you live in the moment-— you're seven, you live in the moment. , , ., ., ., ., ., moment. this photograph of nazanin, the one that — moment. this photograph of nazanin, the one that we _ moment. this photograph of nazanin, the one that we all _ moment. this photograph of nazanin, the one that we all know— moment. this photograph of nazanin, the one that we all know so _ moment. this photograph of nazanin, the one that we all know so well. - the one that we all know so well. with that incredible smile and the red herrings and the sunglasses on her head. when was that taken, what was going on? it her head. when was that taken, what was going on?— was going on? it was taken a few months before _ was going on? it was taken a few months before she _ was going on? it was taken a few months before she was _ was going on? it was taken a few months before she was taken, i was going on? it was taken a few. months before she was taken, she was going on? it was taken a few - months before she was taken, she was on holiday. she still smiles like that. ,, , ., , ., , that. she still can. so many of us watchin: that. she still can. so many of us watching will _ that. she still can. so many of us watching will know _ that. she still can. so many of us watching will know that _ that. she still can. so many of us watching will know that but - that. she still can. so many of us watching will know that but we i that. she still can. so many of us| watching will know that but we do not know her, what is your white lie? ,, , ., , ,, not know her, what is your white lie? ,, ,., i, , not know her, what is your white lie? ,, ,., , ,, ,~' lie? she is lovely. she is kind. carinu. lie? she is lovely. she is kind. caring- -- _ lie? she is lovely. she is kind. caring. -- what _ lie? she is lovely. she is kind. caring. -- what is _ lie? she is lovely. she is kind. caring. -- what is your- lie? she is lovely. she is kind. caring. -- what is your wife i lie? she is lovely. she is kind. i caring. -- what is your wife like? caring. —— what is your wife like? she pulls her husband up plenty of times! when she felt he was falling short. we met when she came to study here in 2007. we met through a mutualfriend, speaking at here in 2007. we met through a mutual friend, speaking at a conference, we both went there, we went for a coffee and then another cup of coffee! and it felt like one of those moments of coming home. we were really connected. just really unexpectedly. we were at ease. and you know, there were cultural differences, it turns out we came from very different political places, i don't think any of us had any idea this is where we would end up. i am any idea this is where we would end up. iam really lucky any idea this is where we would end up. i am really lucky to have found her. ., , ., up. i am really lucky to have found her. ., ., her. let me ask you about the meetin: her. let me ask you about the meeting you _ her. let me ask you about the meeting you had _ her. let me ask you about the meeting you had yesterday i her. let me ask you about the i meeting you had yesterday with her. let me ask you about the - meeting you had yesterday with the foreign office ministerjames cleverley. the foreign secretary �*s deputy, essentially. how did you feel about that, what happened? i got quite cross. you know, on hunger strike, you get cross more easily. i felt we got told nothing. sorry? i felt we got told nothing. sorry? i felt we got told nothing. a good half of the meeting was taken up saying we have raised the case, we are raising it strongly, and we said, of course you are and it was a cordial meeting and we had a good relationship, there was no substance on what are they doing about the debt, no substance on can you assure us nazanin is not being connected to wider things around the nuclear deal? there was no substance on really what the iranians have responded apart from they have insisted the judiciary was independent. i mean, it felt like a bit of a placebo, to be honest. we had had the meeting. i could not get the government, could not even get the government, could not even get the minister to understand their strategy is not working and here we are, five and a half years later into a five and a —— five year sentence. they said br thinking about everything proposed to us, we do not think it is the right time to do not think it is the right time to do anything more, we are carrying on doing what we are doing, there are negotiations going on which we cannot tell you about and i said i do not see anything else but the same status quo. the reason why we came right when we did, the reason we started campaigning was because i was convinced they were about to throw nazanin back in prison and i said by us being here we have bought time but i do not see anything to stop them continuing to play games, so it nazanin back after christmas. i do not see, in all these games of carrot and stick, there is any stick from the government. essentially, they are allowing them to take people hostage and abuse them. and that effectively is appeasement. is why they get away with it. you said ou not why they get away with it. you said you got cross _ why they get away with it. you said you got cross in — why they get away with it. you said you got cross in the _ why they get away with it. you said you got cross in the meeting. - why they get away with it. you said you got cross in the meeting. you | you got cross in the meeting. you always come across as so calm and so composed. always come across as so calm and so com osed. ., ., ., , ., , composed. you are angry now. yes, i am outraged- — composed. you are angry now. yes, i am outraged. the _ composed. you are angry now. yes, i am outraged. the fact _ composed. you are angry now. yes, i am outraged. the fact that _ composed. you are angry now. yes, i am outraged. the fact that this - composed. you are angry now. yes, i am outraged. the fact that this has i am outraged. the fact that this has been allowed to last for five and a half years. the fact, let's be honest, nazanin was taken hostage over government debt. the government either before we did. and actually, the first response from the government was to downplay it, deflect it, for the longest time, would not acknowledge that nazanin was innocent, would not do anything but hide behind the iranian legal system and say they were following process. and even now, all the parliamentary statement still talk about the fact the problem is because they are dual nationals, as if there is a second—tier citizenship in this country and all along, it has been about their debt. this is the £400 million the uk owes iran, a debt from the 70s, the reason the uk owes iran that money is because iran ordered a load of tanks and paper them and the uk failed to deliver them. when you ask any of the foreign secretary is that we have had, or the foreign office minister yesterday, why don't you pay them the £400 million that is their money, that we owe them, what did they say?— did they say? they will not say. we asked again — did they say? they will not say. we asked again yesterday _ did they say? they will not say. we asked again yesterday to _ asked again yesterday to minister james cleverley and he said, you know, he started to say there is a legal problem, realised there was not one and backed away from that and he said our position is well known and i said with respect, it is not, we do not know it, you have never told us. i do not know anyone you have told it to. i don't know, there is clearly some reason because it has lasted this length of time. it has got to the point where iran is taking hostages, they went to court, they negotiated, various things happened before we got here. yes, it is an extraordinary thing, the government will not explain why they are allowing people to be in harm's way. they are allowing people to be in harm's way-— they are allowing people to be in harm's wa . ~ ., ., ~ ., harm's way. what do you think about that, they will _ harm's way. what do you think about that, they will not _ harm's way. what do you think about that, they will not tell _ harm's way. what do you think about that, they will not tell you? - harm's way. what do you think about that, they will not tell you? the - that, they will not tell you? the accountability _ that, they will not tell you? iia: accountability gap, the that, they will not tell you? i“i2 accountability gap, the lack that, they will not tell you? i““i2 accountability gap, the lack of explanation for government decisions that have an impact on ordinary people's lives. and that you can just get away with it, you can say we do not want to talk about it and what can i do? it’s we do not want to talk about it and what can i do?— what can i do? it's extraordinary. i rank one of _ what can i do? it's extraordinary. i rank one of the _ what can i do? it's extraordinary. i rank one of the former _ what can i do? it's extraordinary. i rank one of the former foreign - rank one of the former foreign secretaries he has been in the post for your wife has been detained. they told me they think the uk has decided they want to pay that debt but this former foreign secretary said they think it needs a massive push from the prime minister now to make it happen, in other words, the prime minister has to grip the focus on it and decide to sort it once and for all. on it and decide to sort it once and forall. d0 on it and decide to sort it once and for all. ,, on it and decide to sort it once and for all. , ., ., ,, on it and decide to sort it once and for all. , ., ., ~ ., for all. do you agree? i think that is riuht. for all. do you agree? i think that is right. obviously, _ for all. do you agree? i think that is right. obviously, the _ for all. do you agree? i think that is right. obviously, the prime - is right. obviously, the prime minister is in charge of all of us and our government decisions. he is also the person who promised to pay that debt back when he was foreign secretary and now he is prime minister he has the power, i met him backin minister he has the power, i met him back in 2020. he was clear that they would do everything they could to get nazanin home. back in the day, he said, i will leave no stone unturned, that's why in front of us there are all the stones painted to remind him, to remind the government, they have a promise on the debt so i gave liz truss when we first met a couple of weeks back, one of these stones and i said you inherit this promise so hold onto it. yes. i expected more from the prime minister. i thought he would have kept his word. [30 prime minister. i thought he would have kept his word.— have kept his word. do you still have kept his word. do you still have confidence _ have kept his word. do you still have confidence in _ have kept his word. do you still have confidence in this - have kept his word. do you still- have confidence in this government to help secure the release of mezzanine? i to help secure the release of mezzanine?— to help secure the release of mezzanine? ., ., mezzanine? i mean, i said to them bluntl , i mezzanine? i mean, i said to them bluntly, i would _ mezzanine? i mean, i said to them bluntly, i would not _ mezzanine? i mean, i said to them bluntly, i would not be _ mezzanine? i mean, i said to them bluntly, i would not be camping i mezzanine? i mean, i said to them i bluntly, i would not be camping here if i had confidence. this is as clear a statement as i know how to make, to say the current path is not working. i do fear that nazanin will be put back in prison. and it seems to me irresponsible if not reckless to me irresponsible if not reckless to be playing with innocent people's lives in this way. we to be playing with innocent people's lives in this way.— lives in this way. we are going to talk to your _ lives in this way. we are going to talk to your mother _ lives in this way. we are going to talk to your mother and - lives in this way. we are going to talk to your mother and your - talk to your mother and your brother—in—law a little later on. just because of the timings of things. is it hard sometimes to keep being so diplomatic? i’m things. is it hard sometimes to keep being so diplomatic?— being so diplomatic? i'm not sure i feel particularly — being so diplomatic? i'm not sure i feel particularly diplomatic - being so diplomatic? i'm not sure i feel particularly diplomatic at - being so diplomatic? i'm not sure i feel particularly diplomatic at this i feel particularly diplomatic at this point! there are times where i have been, i am point! there are times where i have been, iam not point! there are times where i have been, i am not sure a hunger strike is a particularly soft tactic. i find our situation is hard. because we are clearly wrapped up in stuff we are clearly wrapped up in stuff we do not know about and do not understand and it is a different world. i can think when we were in the middle of the maelstrom of the prime minister when he was foreign secretary, making his gaffe and we went from a fairly low level story to being on the front pages and all the media around and people breathing against us. feeling completely out of our depth. we are still out of our depth. —— people briefing against us. it is more about politics, we know more about how diplomats work. yes, it has been a total process. how diplomats work. yes, it has been a total process-— a total process. what are the things ou think a total process. what are the things you think about _ a total process. what are the things you think about doing _ a total process. what are the things you think about doing together, - a total process. what are the things| you think about doing together, with your wife and your daughter in the future? , ., ., , ., your wife and your daughter in the future? , ., .,, ., ., , your wife and your daughter in the future? , ., ., ., , ., future? gabriella has a long list of thins future? gabriella has a long list of thin . s she future? gabriella has a long list of things she wants _ future? gabriella has a long list of things she wants to _ future? gabriella has a long list of things she wants to do, _ future? gabriella has a long list of things she wants to do, legoland, toy shops. and what do you want to do? it is probably about being normal again. do? it is probably about being normalagain. it do? it is probably about being normal again. it is in some ways, like about being normal, like picking up where it went off, going for a walk in the park, going to the coffee shops, gabriella is not one and three quarters and can sit in a pram the way that she did but it is about being a normal family. pram the way that she did but it is about being a normalfamily. in our neighbourhood. no longer on the telly, all of that stuff. and healing again. i mean, infairness, i have had an awful lot of kindness, these past three weeks, and these past five and a half years, nazanin has been less exposed to that so it has been less exposed to that so it has been less exposed to that so it has been a reminder that the world is a kind place and to sort of share that in a normal and ordinary way, i think, that is what happy ever after is for us. ., ., ._ think, that is what happy ever after is for us. ., ., ., , think, that is what happy ever after is for us. ., ., ._ , .,, is for us. could today be the last da of is for us. could today be the last day of the _ is for us. could today be the last day of the hunger _ is for us. could today be the last day of the hunger strike? - is for us. could today be the last day of the hunger strike? i - is for us. could today be the last day of the hunger strike? i do i is for us. could today be the last | day of the hunger strike? i do not know, i think _ day of the hunger strike? i do not know, i think we _ day of the hunger strike? i do not know, i think we will _ day of the hunger strike? i do not know, i think we will go _ day of the hunger strike? i do not know, i think we will go a - day of the hunger strike? i do not know, i think we will go a bit - know, i think we will go a bit longer. we are definitely near the end. you will speak to my brother—in—law, lim, he said he would sit with me near the end. hosp would sit with me near the end. how lona do would sit with me near the end. how long do you — would sit with me near the end. how long do you think— would sit with me near the end. how long do you think you can do it for? i am not a good judge. i can always do it one day more. we will bring in your brother—in—law and your mother in a moment. let your brother-in-law and your mother in a moment-— in a moment. let me 'ust reduce the messaues in a moment. let me 'ust reduce the messages from _ in a moment. let me just reduce the messages from people _ in a moment. let me just reduce the messages from people around - in a moment. let me just reduce the messages from people around the i messages from people around the country and i asked them what is your message to richard and nazanin? carly says my messages he has the support of the public and to let us know what we can do to reach the government on his behalf. i have written to my mp but want to do more. nicolette says i hope he knows how much support there is for his and his family and how people in this country appalled at the treatment he and nazanin and gabriella have received from the government that is supposed to represent them. richard, stay strong. nick says please tell richard we are moved beyond belief by his incredible dedication and love for his wife. we are both shocked and angered by this government �*s refusal to do the decent thing, to pay the debt so he can bring her home to herfamily. let me show the audience, how do you respond? let me show the audience, how do you resond? ,, . ., ., , ., ., respond? such a lovely outpouring of care. i am honoured _ respond? such a lovely outpouring of care. i am honoured for— respond? such a lovely outpouring of care. i am honoured for all— respond? such a lovely outpouring of care. i am honoured for all the - care. i am honoured for all the messages we have received. yes, it uplifts me, and nazanin. and i am really grateful for everyone under their care. let really grateful for everyone under their care. ., ., ., , ., their care. let me go over to your visitors book— their care. let me go over to your visitors book if— their care. let me go over to your visitors book if it _ their care. let me go over to your visitors book if it is _ their care. let me go over to your visitors book if it is all _ visitors book if it is all right with you and read a couple of messages. everyone who comes here, complete strangers drop by, politicians, high profile people drop by and they are asked to write in this visitors book. so i'm just going to redo a couple of messages because there are so many. bear with me, i need to put my glasses on which are covered in drizzle. dear richard and family. i want you to know so many people are with you in your desperate situation. hopefully we can all apply pressure to our government, we arejust we can all apply pressure to our government, we are just going to bring in barber and government, we are just going to bring in barberand lim around government, we are just going to bring in barber and lim around there on some chairs in a second. yes, hopefully we can all apply pressure to the government, thinking of you. richard, your plight, i cannot read this writing! your plight overwhelms us with feelings of injustice and heartbreak. with admiration to you both. dear richard and nazanin, looking at your strength and sending you love. there are so many of these. i think we have got some chairs, have we? we will do it standing up, shall we? actually, let's have some chairs, come on, barbara, come and sit down next to your son. barbara, come and sit down next to yourson. let's barbara, come and sit down next to your son. let's bring these chairs around, let's do it, everybody, i am sorry about this. there you go. come and sit down, barbara. come and sit down. is it safe? bring it around here, lim. perfect. lim, you are at the doctor here, richard �*s brother—in—law. how do you, you are monitoring him, how do you think he is doing? to monitoring him, how do you think he is doinu ? ., , monitoring him, how do you think he is doinu? .,, ., , monitoring him, how do you think he isdoinu? .,, ., , ., is doing? to be honest, i cannot believe how _ is doing? to be honest, i cannot believe how well _ is doing? to be honest, i cannot believe how well he _ is doing? to be honest, i cannot believe how well he appears - is doing? to be honest, i cannot believe how well he appears to i is doing? to be honest, i cannot i believe how well he appears to be doing _ believe how well he appears to be doing to— believe how well he appears to be doing. to the best of my ability, under— doing. to the best of my ability, under these fairly primitive circumstances, he is doing as well as i circumstances, he is doing as well as i could — circumstances, he is doing as well as i could reasonably expect. i am sure _ as i could reasonably expect. i am sure he _ as i could reasonably expect. i am sure he has— as i could reasonably expect. i am sure he has told you and many people before _ sure he has told you and many people before slowing down. he gets much quieter— before slowing down. he gets much quieter as _ before slowing down. he gets much quieter as we have experienced with this previously. and you know, some days are _ this previously. and you know, some days are better than others. but physically, he seems to be in as good _ physically, he seems to be in as good a — physically, he seems to be in as good a shape as we could expect. this temperature is not dropping dangerously. as you can tell, he is lucid _ dangerously. as you can tell, he is lucid and — dangerously. as you can tell, he is lucid. and he is not complaining of any symptoms that would cause undue concern _ any symptoms that would cause undue concern at _ any symptoms that would cause undue concern at this time. it is kind of amazing — concern at this time. it is kind of amazing to— concern at this time. it is kind of amazing. to be honest, when we heard that he _ amazing. to be honest, when we heard that he was— amazing. to be honest, when we heard that he was going to go on hunger strike _ that he was going to go on hunger strike again, i think, you that he was going to go on hunger strike again, ithink, you know, i was _ strike again, ithink, you know, i was very— strike again, ithink, you know, i was very concerned. different circumstances. obviously, much, much further— circumstances. obviously, much, much further on— circumstances. obviously, much, much further on now. the longer we get, the more _ further on now. the longer we get, the more dangerous it gets. and we are in— the more dangerous it gets. and we are in the _ the more dangerous it gets. and we are in the middle of a british winter~ — are in the middle of a british winter~ it— are in the middle of a british winter. it is colder. it is wetter. and, _ winter. it is colder. it is wetter. and. yes, — winter. it is colder. it is wetter. and, yes, putting his body under immense — and, yes, putting his body under immense strain. his batteries do run out after— immense strain. his batteries do run out after all — immense strain. his batteries do run out after all of the interviews and all of _ out after all of the interviews and all of the — out after all of the interviews and all of the well—wishers over a long day. all of the well-wishers over a long da . �* ., , all of the well-wishers over a long da . “ ., , ., all of the well-wishers over a long da . ~ ., , ., ., all of the well-wishers over a long da. ., , ., ., day. and that is what we are so crateful day. and that is what we are so grateful you — day. and that is what we are so grateful you are _ day. and that is what we are so grateful you are spending - day. and that is what we are so grateful you are spending so i day. and that is what we are so i grateful you are spending so much time with us. barbara, mothers always want to fix things for their kids. ., �* , always want to fix things for their kids. ., �*, , .,, ., always want to fix things for their kids. ., �*, , ., kids. that's right stop do you want richard to stop _ kids. that's right stop do you want richard to stop this _ kids. that's right stop do you want richard to stop this hunger - kids. that's right stop do you want j richard to stop this hunger strike? i would love him to stop before he does damage to himself. but i know he will carry on. until he thinks it is the right time. as long as we have got a doctor with him, and if we haven't, if i think he is ill, that will be it. i shall do it 999 and get him out, or a cab, to a hospital. this and get him out, or a cab, to a hospital-— and get him out, or a cab, to a hosital. . , , ., ., ., hospital. as his mother, what do you think of what — hospital. as his mother, what do you think of what he _ hospital. as his mother, what do you think of what he is _ hospital. as his mother, what do you think of what he is doing _ hospital. as his mother, what do you think of what he is doing to - hospital. as his mother, what do you think of what he is doing to try - hospital. as his mother, what do you think of what he is doing to try and i think of what he is doing to try and get the uk government to change its strategy to get his wife home? hate strategy to get his wife home? we are strategy to get his wife home? 2 are absolutely so proud of him. i cannot believe really, we have produced a child like that! a man like that! what else can we do? we are all at a desperate point. this isjust to show are all at a desperate point. this is just to show that he really does care and we do need to get her back. gabriella knows that she has got a mummy and a daddy. yes. lim. gabriella knows that she has got a mummy and a daddy. yes. lim, this is a family affair. — mummy and a daddy. yes. lim, this is a family affair, you _ mummy and a daddy. yes. lim, this is a family affair, you are _ mummy and a daddy. yes. lim, this is a family affair, you are here _ a family affair, you are here monitoring, you are a doctor and a microbiologist. from your expertise, what is happening to somebody �*s body when they had not eaten for 20 days? he body when they had not eaten for 20 da s? ., ., ., , body when they had not eaten for 20 da 5? ., ., ., , ., days? he will have already gone throu~h days? he will have already gone through the _ days? he will have already gone through the point _ days? he will have already gone through the point his _ days? he will have already gone through the point his body - days? he will have already gone through the point his body is - through the point his body is essentially to consume itself. in order— essentially to consume itself. in order to — essentially to consume itself. in order to stay alive. he will have had a _ order to stay alive. he will have had a phase of consuming muscle, that does— had a phase of consuming muscle, that does not go on for ever. he will now— that does not go on for ever. he will now be _ that does not go on for ever. he will now be eating into the fat stores — will now be eating into the fat stores in _ will now be eating into the fat stores in his body. you can get very dangerous— stores in his body. you can get very dangerous changes in electrolytes if certain— dangerous changes in electrolytes if certain vitamins drop too low. you know, _ certain vitamins drop too low. you know. that — certain vitamins drop too low. you know, that can cause fairly significant psychological problems and even — significant psychological problems and even brain damage. we are doing our best— and even brain damage. we are doing our best to _ and even brain damage. we are doing our best to make sure that with no food, _ our best to make sure that with no food, no _ our best to make sure that with no food, no energy intake at all, it is made _ food, no energy intake at all, it is made as— food, no energy intake at all, it is made as safe as it can possibly be, so making — made as safe as it can possibly be, so making sure that his body is getting — so making sure that his body is getting enough salt, making sure that we _ getting enough salt, making sure that we replace some of the vitamins that we replace some of the vitamins that can _ that we replace some of the vitamins that can lead to permanent damage when _ that can lead to permanent damage when the _ that can lead to permanent damage when the levels of those get very low, when — when the levels of those get very low, when somebody is starving themselves. yes, but it is an extreme _ themselves. yes, but it is an extreme thing to go through and it is difficult — extreme thing to go through and it is difficult to watch.— is difficult to watch. barbara, you clearly have _ is difficult to watch. barbara, you clearly have such _ is difficult to watch. barbara, you clearly have such a _ is difficult to watch. barbara, you clearly have such a strong - is difficult to watch. barbara, you clearly have such a strong and i clearly have such a strong and supportive family but i wonder what impact this has on you as the family, watching richard do this? doing the hunger strike? i think we are also worried. yes. you are not daft, are you? you know you have a little girl and a wife!— little girl and a wife! richard, when you _ little girl and a wife! richard, when you hear— little girl and a wife! richard, when you hear your - little girl and a wife! richard, when you hear your mother. little girl and a wife! richard, i when you hear your mother said little girl and a wife! richard, - when you hear your mother said that she wants you to stop now. and there are also some messages from people who are really worried about cheap and would like you to stop. i who are really worried about cheap and would like you to stop.- and would like you to stop. i think that is right- _ and would like you to stop. i think that is right. it — and would like you to stop. i think that is right. it puts _ and would like you to stop. i think that is right. it puts a _ and would like you to stop. i think that is right. it puts a strain - and would like you to stop. i think that is right. it puts a strain on i that is right. it puts a strain on everyone, a hunger strike is not a light thing and it is something that generates... it is important that i keep responsible. the danger is that you get wrapped up in one more day, as i said, to make your point, one more day to see... we will do it for a bit. and that we were let go, this is not the hill to die on. i a bit. and that we were let go, this is not the hill to die on.— is not the hill to die on. i mean, ou is not the hill to die on. i mean, you know. _ is not the hill to die on. i mean, you know. how— is not the hill to die on. i mean, you know, how many _ is not the hill to die on. i mean, you know, how many days - is not the hill to die on. i mean, you know, how many days does| is not the hill to die on. i mean, - you know, how many days does one have to do a hunger strike for a prime minister to go, ok, we need to sort this? , ., ., sort this? exactly, i would have thou~ht sort this? exactly, i would have thought we _ sort this? exactly, i would have thought we were _ sort this? exactly, i would have thought we were there - sort this? exactly, i would have thought we were there anyway, j sort this? exactly, i would have i thought we were there anyway, if i were prime minister, i would not be wanting to be responsible for someone starving themselves. as far as i can see, he could just pay the money. and then, maybe she will come back. and if they had been paid to begin with, she would have been home five years ago. mar: begin with, she would have been home five years ago-— five years ago. mac three, what do ou sa ? five years ago. mac three, what do you say? i — five years ago. mac three, what do you say? i say. _ five years ago. mac three, what do you say? i say. the _ five years ago. mac three, what do you say? i say, the prime - five years ago. mac three, what do you say? i say, the prime minister| you say? i say, the prime minister made promises — you say? i say, the prime minister made promises which _ you say? i say, the prime minister made promises which have - you say? i say, the prime minister made promises which have not. you say? i say, the prime minister. made promises which have not been kept _ made promises which have not been kept from — made promises which have not been kept. from my perspective. i don't want _ kept. from my perspective. idon't want to— kept. from my perspective. i don't want to see — kept. from my perspective. i don't want to see a member of my family on hunger— want to see a member of my family on hunger strike — want to see a member of my family on hunger strike for any time at all. to be _ hunger strike for any time at all. to be on— hunger strike for any time at all. to be on day 20 of this, it is a very— to be on day 20 of this, it is a very extreme and desperate action. and, _ very extreme and desperate action. and. you _ very extreme and desperate action. and, you know, he should be able to see what— and, you know, he should be able to see what a _ and, you know, he should be able to see what a desperate situation this family— see what a desperate situation this family feels it is in. this has not been _ family feels it is in. this has not been done — family feels it is in. this has not been done lightly. and i think ricky has always— been done lightly. and i think ricky has always accepted that there may come _ has always accepted that there may come a _ has always accepted that there may come a point we had to step in and stop this _ come a point we had to step in and stop this because it was dangerous, the longer— stop this because it was dangerous, the longer that we go on, the more likely— the longer that we go on, the more likely that — the longer that we go on, the more likely that becomes. and, yes, i think— likely that becomes. and, yes, i think all— likely that becomes. and, yes, i think all of— likely that becomes. and, yes, i think all of us hope that it comes soon _ think all of us hope that it comes soon |_ think all of us hope that it comes soon. ., ., ., soon. i have no idea if the prime minister is _ soon. i have no idea if the prime minister is watching, _ soon. i have no idea if the prime minister is watching, richard. if| soon. i have no idea if the prime i minister is watching, richard. if he is, what would you say to him? it is robabl , is, what would you say to him? it is probably. just _ is, what would you say to him? it 3 probably, just keep your promises. in 2017 he promised to sort this, he promised the iranians he would pay the debt, four years later and he has not and we have had four you more years of suffering. now he is able to do whatever he wants, his job is to protect british citizens, there is a citizen that needs it. richard, barbara, lim, thank you so much for talking to us. so many messages, i will make sure you get them all. just to say.— them all. just to say. barbara, go on. can them all. just to say. barbara, go on- can we _ them all. just to say. barbara, go on. can we thank _ them all. just to say. barbara, go on. can we thank all _ them all. just to say. barbara, go on. can we thank all of _ them all. just to say. barbara, go on. can we thank all of the - on. can we thank all of the supporters who have been so lovely. that is what is helping us keep going, isn't it? they are. they give you strength. we are so grateful to them. ., ., you strength. we are so grateful to them. ., ,, i. ., you strength. we are so grateful to them. ., ,, ., ':: ., them. thank you, after 10am we will talk to the daughter _ them. thank you, after 10am we will talk to the daughter of _ them. thank you, after 10am we will talk to the daughter of someone - them. thank you, after 10am we will| talk to the daughter of someone else injail in tehran. he is a retired engineer, british national, anoosheh ashoori, sentenced to ten years in jailfor ashoori, sentenced to ten years in jail for allegedly spying which he denies, we will talk to his daughter and find out about the many issues involved with those detained, richard mentioned some of them, the debt, sanctions, the nuclear deal and so on. stay with us, if you possibly can. victoria, thank you. three migrants are missing after attempting to cross the channel on kayaks. the french coastguard called off the search for them last night. it comes as 1—thousand migrants are believed to have reached the uk after making the crossing by boat yesterday — a record figure for a single day. the home office has described the number as "unacceptable". last year the home secretary priti patel promised to make make the route "unviable". the pop star britney spears could regain control of her personal life and finances later today — when a court in los angeles decides whether to overturn an order which originally put her father and lawyers in charge. the singer has been fighting to revoke the so—called conservatorship, which was imposed 13 years ago amid concerns for her mental health. as the climate change conference in glasgow comes to an end, the devastating effects of extreme weather continue to affect people across the world. in the unites states, drought and heat combined with historic bad land management have led to intense, long—lasting wildfires. our climate editor justin rowlatt has been to greenville, a town in northern california, that was completely destroyed by a blaze in september. nicole faris's home was utterly destroyed by the dixie fire. we found peace and joy every day in our heart being here and i want to come home, but i want to come home to the day before the fire. this was supposed to be nicole and her husband paul's forever home. it took all the colour out of my life. look at it, everything is just a shade of grey. years of climate—induced drought have left the vegetation tinder dry. add in a policy of suppressing small fires which allowed dead wood to build up and now fires are faster and hotter than ever before. on august 4th, nicole got a text from the sheriff saying everyone still in town was in imminent danger. my friend said, it's coming, it'sjust, it's running down the road towards you, get out now. we grabbed the dogs and we grabbed our suitcases, and we got in the truck and we left. fire consumed the entire town injust two hours. and the mightiest trees are burning too. the world's last remaining giant sequoia are under threat. largest individual organism in the world. they are amazing, they sequester gigatons of carbon every year. so let me try and give you an idea ofjust how enormous this tree is. these trees are ancient. up to 3,000 years old. but there are just 70 groves left, all in this mountain range. so look at that, 31 metres. wow. they are vulnerable, but they are also very resilient. so they are picky, they are the goldilocks of the forest. but they survive fire, they survive drought, they live for thousands of years. the flames came within a quarter of a mile of the biggest tree. others weren't so lucky. we're the firstjournalists who have been invited into this sequoia grove since fire ripped through here in september. some trees have been totally incinerated. this is terrible. this is the worst thing i've seen all year. before 2015, no one saw a sequoia that looked like this. it's emotionally heartbreaking, you know. you never saw a tree torched like this, become a candle and burn up in this way before climate change and fire suppression. there's nothing i can do about these trees. they are gone, and we will plant new ones but it takes 1,000 years. and they won't be that for hundreds of years? no, they won't be this for a long, long time. but it isn't too late, says christie, not yet. climate change is here now and it is killing things that we care about that should not be dying. and it's also telling us, we need to act on climate change now. and every little bit counts. bringing climate change under control is what the conference in glasgow is all about. the lesson from california is that the world needs more thanjust long—term promises from governments. it needs practical action now. justin rowlatt, bbc news, in the sierra nevada mountains. this is bbc news — these are the latest headlines in the uk and around the world. a new draft agreement is negotiated at the cop26 climate summit here in in glasgow — as talks enter their final scheduled day. it steps up calls on governments to urgently tackle climate change. commitments to reducing fossil fuels have been softened but it has stronger language about helping poorer countries we also have a special report from the us on the devastation of long—lasting wildfires, caused by drought and heat — we speak to the people whose homes have burned down "it's running down the road towards you." "get out now." we grabbed the dogs, and we grabbed our suitcases. and we got in the truck, and we left. we'll have expert analysis of that draft climate deal and assess how

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