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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are broadcaster david davies and rachel watson, deputy political editor at the scottish daily mail. tomorrow's front pages starting with... the telegraph leads with brexit, saying that the eu is promising a new deal over northern ireland trade but won't strip europeanjudges of their role in the province. the i splashes on congestion at felixstowe, saying supply chain delays have caused a build up of containers threatening deliveries in time for christmas. the ft�*s also features felixstowe with a striking picture of containers piled high. but its main story is a warning by the imf that the uk's economic recovery from covid will lag behind that of other g7 nations. the metro leads with the covid response report saying cabinet office minister steve barclay refused 20 times to apologise for government pandemic mistakes. the northern ireland trade story also makes the lead in the guardian it says the eu is offering to remove a majority of post brexit checks on british goods entering the province. the daily mail has a story about its campaign to increase the number of face to face appointments with gps. so let's begin. let us start, rachel do you want to kick us off this evening with the front of the metro? ministers refuse to say sorry? this front of the metro? ministers refuse to say sorry?— to say sorry? this story is based on the damning _ to say sorry? this story is based on the damning report _ to say sorry? this story is based on the damning report that _ to say sorry? this story is based on the damning report that came - to say sorry? this story is based on the damning report that came out i the damning report that came out this morning by the two committees at westminster on how the uk government had handled the pandemic. and that initial response. which was to slow as you said there were the worst public health response that the country has ever had. steve barkley was sent out by the government this morning to do the media rounds and seemed either not to be prepared for what he was going to be prepared for what he was going to be prepared for what he was going to be asked to do or did not anticipate his go to be asked to apologise at some point, and did not minister apologised 20 times the metro said, they counted up from the number of interviews and media rounds that he did this morning. i think that is something that's actually pretty hard for a lot of people to accept, probably. giving how damning this report was and it's the first of many reports and inquiries of how the government did handle the pandemic. in scotland we are still waiting on news of when the first inquiry can kick off around have nicola sturgeon handle to appear and the difference is that she might have had, although initially they did stay very close to the uk government. it was quiet, if you were watching twitter this morning it was very obvious that the government were unwilling to apologise for the errors found in this report. and it's quite an interesting front page for the measure given that it has been around all day. i think it is that impact the people are going to pick this up and read it was at this pandemic something that touched all of our lives, some more than others. to have this report the government not apologise yes there are other things going on as we are about to go through the other front pages of the government might be more focused on at the moment rather than a report from westminster. it potentially misjudge that response this morning. potentially mis'udge that response this morning.— this morning. david, what do you make of this _ this morning. david, what do you make of this story _ this morning. david, what do you make of this story and _ this morning. david, what do you make of this story and the - this morning. david, what do you l make of this story and the focus on steve barkley public appearances on the radio and television? flame steve barkley public appearances on the radio and television?— the radio and television? come on, come on governments _ the radio and television? come on, come on governments refusing - the radio and television? come on, come on governments refusing to i come on governments refusing to apologise — come on governments refusing to apologise is nothing new in that, is there? _ apologise is nothing new in that, is there? certainly not at this stage. but it_ there? certainly not at this stage. but it started, the game is under way and — but it started, the game is under way and by— but it started, the game is under way and by goodness the next year, two years. _ way and by goodness the next year, two years, three years we are going to get— two years, three years we are going to get more — two years, three years we are going to get more and more and more of it. i to get more and more and more of it. ithought— to get more and more and more of it. iihought the — to get more and more and more of it. i thought the most interesting thing today was_ i thought the most interesting thing today was the inclusion of those two august select committees. the tolerance — august select committees. the tolerance level of the english, and it was_ tolerance level of the english, and it was primarily the english public for lockdowns was rather greater then anybody had anticipated in government. now, you do, if they were _ government. now, you do, if they were following the science committee remember _ were following the science committee remember that famous expression, start with _ remember that famous expression, start with following the science, people — start with following the science, people did some basic economics and refused _ people did some basic economics and refused to— people did some basic economics and refused to ask the economics, which economists? does a lot of economists will tell— economists? does a lot of economists will tell you _ economists? does a lot of economists will tell you one think of another lot will— will tell you one think of another lot will tell you another thing. likewise — lot will tell you another thing. likewise surely with scientists. but as i likewise surely with scientists. but as i say— likewise surely with scientists. but as i say the — likewise surely with scientists. but as i say the blame game is under way _ as i say the blame game is under wa . r , , way. and it will be interesting to see what happens _ way. and it will be interesting to see what happens when - way. and it will be interesting to see what happens when this - see what happens when this full public inquiry takes place. at the moment in some unknown timeframe, although the suggestion was that it would start work by the spring, it's move0n. ships unable to dock and unload goods for christmas, they have a picture that appears also on the ft slightly larger and clearer on the ft one. which is a big pile of containers which have been used presumably to unload vehicles waiting to load the next one but as a kind of real problems that a lot of the stuff is now backing up. i was unusually for me, and eight london taxi cabs this morning. in the driver was saying everything that is— the driver was saying everything that is going on in the is the media's— that is going on in the is the media's fault and the latest story broadcast — media's fault and the latest story broadcast would be that things are getting _ broadcast would be that things are getting stuck in the ports. a series the concerning story and of course it is geared — the concerning story and of course it is geared to christmas and goods not being _ it is geared to christmas and goods not being unloaded and taking i think— not being unloaded and taking i think double the amount of time to come out _ think double the amount of time to come out of the port and of course also being — come out of the port and of course also being diverted to other european ports. the truth of the matter— european ports. the truth of the matter is— european ports. the truth of the matter is that it appears to be that felix _ matter is that it appears to be that felixjoe, — matter is that it appears to be that felixjoe, our biggest board, is full of— felixjoe, our biggest board, is full of currently. and that is of serious — full of currently. and that is of serious concern. surely to the government. serious concern. surely to the government-— serious concern. surely to the government. serious concern. surely to the tovernment. ., , ., .,. government. you must mean, rachel, that the new — government. you must mean, rachel, that the new tsar _ government. you must mean, rachel, that the new tsar for _ government. you must mean, rachel, that the new tsar for the _ government. you must mean, rachel, that the new tsar for the supply - that the new tsar for the supply chain, took up his first day in the office only yesterday is going to have quite a lot of to try and undo these problems in the supply chain. this is a massive energy and adjusts magical fork of the government is facing a number of challenges on a number of fronts at the moment. and i think it is one version of the story, talk about retail buses and supermarkets looking at other ways to get produce into the country if they cannot use shipping containers. to get those products in. there was a concern that customers are going to start noticing these problems even more. a lot of us are seeing empty shelves in the shop the ready or the stickers telling you when things are going to come back in a couple of weeks, but it seems today that boardings are getting more ramped up, it is coming up to christmas and things people are talking about talk about how many people they can have an there was a celebration last year because of the pandemic. people really want to have a big family christmas this year if they can force it or close family, see their friends and something like this, it's another kind of spanner in the works. the government has to get to grips with it. when you see those spaces on the shelves in the shops, do people start panic buying when addicts come back in? i think it's a huge challenge and we need to see those answers from the government on how they will deal with this. ,, , ., with this. quite interesting image of those other _ with this. quite interesting image of those other approaches. - with this. quite interesting image of those other approaches. the i of those other approaches. the former tesco bostrom apparently he has rc use some of this himself talking about things he has done while he was at tesco before he left last year when he was doing things like hiring trains to bring goods in from southern spain from a fresh fruit and stuff. we have other links apart from the sea, air freight and all kinds of things that we could use to get round at least some of the felix stowe problem. but have a quick look if we can on the photograph on the front of the ft because it is, it is very striking when you see it. i think it is coming up now. there you go. get up a little bit largerfor coming up now. there you go. get up a little bit larger for you. coming up now. there you go. get up a little bit largerfor you. you can see all of the colours of those containers. just give you a sense of scale, the very, very small shapes on the bottom of that photograph, those are people. it gives you a sense of the scale of these things towering over the dock of felix stove. quite a headache for them. rachel do you want to move on to the independent, this is the other big story of tomorrow i suspect which is going to get the european commission making an offer they regard as very generous. but lord frost got his retaliation in first. latte generous. but lord frost got his retaliation in first.— generous. but lord frost got his retaliation in first. we knew the eu would tut retaliation in first. we knew the eu would put forward _ retaliation in first. we knew the eu would put forward this _ retaliation in first. we knew the eu would put forward this tomorrow i retaliation in first. we knew the eu i would put forward this tomorrow and on changes to the northern ireland protocol to break this deadlock. lucic a lot of briefing to the papers ahead of this, a lot of the front pages, the guardian from the telegraph are very similar on what we can expect from the eu and it seems like they are quite significant changes to what was negotiated just a few years ago. as you say lord frost is getting in quickly with his comments on this and being quite forceful. i think that will may be, maybe he was aware of what was coming and heard everything that allows things to be claims tomorrow. we look at some of the quotes and some of the papers and they talk about a kind of soft touch approaching the eu and that they are going to cut the number of checks carried out on the goods for example as they move into the come up example as they move into the come up move from the uk across. i think this will be quite a big moment tomorrow and we will be hearing about it for days now, this was coming with no notice there and it looks like from the briefing that i see in the papers that this is quite a big moment and see in the papers that this is quite a big momentand it see in the papers that this is quite a big moment and it could be some quite significant changes in movement from the eu who have not previously indicated that they would move just quite as far as we expect them to now. quite the government argues part of their case that 20% of all checks on the perimeter of the entire european union take place on the border between great britain and northern ireland which he would not have thought is a big border where you get a lot of smuggling. the goods are ttoin get a lot of smuggling. the goods are going to _ get a lot of smuggling. the goods are going to be — get a lot of smuggling. the goods are going to be smuggled - get a lot of smuggling. the goods are going to be smuggled into - get a lot of smuggling. the goods j are going to be smuggled into the eu and therefore it does look a bit heavy—handed, doesn't it? can and therefore it does look a bit heavy-handed, doesn't it? can i ask a sim-le heavy-handed, doesn't it? can i ask a simple question _ heavy-handed, doesn't it? can i ask a simple question and _ heavy-handed, doesn't it? can i ask a simple question and perhaps - heavy-handed, doesn't it? can i ask a simple question and perhaps lord| a simple question and perhaps lord frost _ a simple question and perhaps lord frost knows the answer? if this protocol — frost knows the answer? if this protocol is _ frost knows the answer? if this protocol is so flawed why on earth did he _ protocol is so flawed why on earth did he sign— protocol is so flawed why on earth did he sign it, was into less than a year ago? — did he sign it, was into less than a year ago? as _ did he sign it, was into less than a year ago? as us simpletons wonder why that _ year ago? as us simpletons wonder why that was can we were told it was under great — why that was can we were told it was under great duress of the time to -et under great duress of the time to get a _ under great duress of the time to get a deal— under great duress of the time to get a deal signed and that sort of thing _ get a deal signed and that sort of thing but— get a deal signed and that sort of thing. but nobody can say they were not warrant — thing. but nobody can say they were not warrant about the problems of the settlement in northern ireland that did _ the settlement in northern ireland that did not endanger the good friday— that did not endanger the good friday agreement. because it dominated all conversations over the many— dominated all conversations over the many years— dominated all conversations over the many years leading up to the referendum. but here we are and, you know, _ referendum. but here we are and, you know. it _ referendum. but here we are and, you know. it is _ referendum. but here we are and, you know, it is quite extraordinary as you say— know, it is quite extraordinary as you say those figures for the checks it _ you say those figures for the checks. it would appear the eu is making _ checks. it would appear the eu is making a — checks. it would appear the eu is making a pretty good to making a pretty— making a pretty good to making a pretty good job today of saying that they have _ pretty good job today of saying that they have made great strides. equally— they have made great strides. equally they are not having much struck— equally they are not having much struck with lord frost proposals about _ struck with lord frost proposals about changing the european involvement or the european court of justice _ involvement or the european court of justice we _ involvement or the european court of justice. we should see what happens tomorrow— justice. we should see what happens tomorrow and they also think that frost _ tomorrow and they also think that frost prospect intervention in his speech— frost prospect intervention in his speech today was to use that lovely brussels _ speech today was to use that lovely brussels word, discourteous. and you want to know — brussels word, discourteous. and you want to know what _ brussels word, discourteous. and you want to know what habits _ brussels word, discourteous. and you want to know what habits were - brussels word, discourteous. and you want to know what habits were all - want to know what habits were all you can join want to know what habits were all you canjoin ben brown for the paper review tomorrow night, same time, same channel. want to make a bit of a comparison here, these proposals are both on the guardian and telegraph, at the guardian says it come from the vice president of the commission involved in these negotiations with lord frost. but preparing to irreparably out shopping online right now for the perfect christmas gift for each other after all the time they have had to spend with each other over the last couple of years. furthermore they spend with their respective partners. it's interesting that the headline on the guardian, they hadn't had light on the daily telegraph breaks it off her new dealfor the daily telegraph breaks it off her new deal for northern ireland. actually quite come at the block is making concessions. european court will not lose its oversight role. this is quite interesting, is to? what if in the time that this would have been reported in very partisan terms and now it feels as if the papers have kind of pulled away from some of that rhetoric. it's obvious this was a real problem. this is something that from the minute this deal was signed two years ago in 2019 there were problems already. people are already criticising it, there were issues on both sides, nobody was particularly happy about it. and problems have only gotten worse and they have come march the front. the fact that the eu has cut out ahead of this and has been briefing is probably pretty part of that i think. they have gone to papers and you can read the quotes that are all very similar. they have given papers and i think that tends to help with that. they framed it in a way

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