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hello and welcome to our second look at with the papers will be bringing us on tuesday morning. joining me tonight the chief leader for the observer newspaper and deputy political editor for the daily express. let us bring you up—to—date with the latest from pages that we have. in which the governments earlier response to the pandemic was one of the most important public health failures that the uk experience. adding that it found ministers took a fatalistic approach which probably exacerbated the death toll. the investigation found many thousands of care home residents dying needlessly in the pandemic and that the elderly were just an afterthought, as they put it. the daily mirror says the thousands of lives could've been saved if boris johnson i made the decision to lock down only days earlier than he did. they said taxes for the social care crisis, borisjohnson is coming into effect and will not be enough for the institute for fiscal studies. the time threats the borisjohnson bakhtin multimillion pound bailout of industries after the chancellor lost her battle with business secretary. let's kick off and starting up for the guardian front page, covid—i9 failings among the worst in history, they say. this is a report by two committees of mps, the science — a report by two committees of mps, the science committee _ a report by two committees of mps, the science committee and - a report by two committees of mps, the science committee and health . the science committee and health committee have done this big investigation to what went wrong during _ investigation to what went wrong during the pandemic and what lessons can be _ during the pandemic and what lessons can be learned and they found serious — can be learned and they found serious failings and that there was a serious — serious failings and that there was a serious problem with groupthink throughout the scientific and in ministerial sector and that did not help when— ministerial sector and that did not help when it came to responding to the outbreak and locked down, they believed _ the outbreak and locked down, they believed lockdown would be imposed earlier— believed lockdown would be imposed earlier and people died needlessly. they said _ earlier and people died needlessly. they said that the modelling of preparations and place were based on a flu outbreak rather than preparations like a sars style operator in the bowl the style outbreak, they have not been modelled because they have not been viewed _ modelled because they have not been viewed as— modelled because they have not been viewed as diseases that wouldn't in effect _ viewed as diseases that wouldn't in effect europe. so it's very in depth in a hard—hitting report there. the in a hard-hitting report there. the coveraue, in a hard-hitting report there. the coverage. it _ in a hard—hitting report there. tie: coverage, it goes well in a hard—hitting report there. ti2 coverage, it goes well beyond political leadership, it takes in the scientific experts advising this and also arguably, it actually goes back to the theresa may government at least and possibly further in saying that in preparing for any future public health emergency of this kind, we have not factored in some of the illnesses and what we have learned from them.— some of the illnesses and what we have learned from them. yeah, that's ri . ht and have learned from them. yeah, that's right and we — have learned from them. yeah, that's right and we have _ have learned from them. yeah, that's right and we have seen _ have learned from them. yeah, that's right and we have seen a _ have learned from them. yeah, that's right and we have seen a lot - have learned from them. yeah, that's right and we have seen a lot of- right and we have seen a lot of criticism of government strategy in the first weeks and months of the pandemic being far too predicated on the flu response and treating it as if it was a flu response rather than as a pandemic and it is clear that they were very serious political failings and the report does not hold back from that, but these were notjust hold back from that, but these were not just failings of hold back from that, but these were notjust failings of political decision—making, i think there are serious long—term questions to be asked about what kind of science advice system, why there was this groupthink earlier on in the pandemic that led to a lot of face pandemic that led to a lot of face pandemic fatalistic thinking about the virus spreading saying that there wasn't much for us to do to stop it and report identifies the weeks delay, if that had not happened back in march 2020 in terms of locking down, they could've cut the number of deaths in the first wave. but i think if you look beyond the first three to four months of the first three to four months of the pandemic, the report will identify that it is one thing to make these mistakes once, it's quite different to make them on a repeated basis and by the time we got to the autumn, the system of scientific advice really, in terms of the group thing, i think people really learned the lessons and suffer example and the lessons and suffer example and the autumn of september and october, they were urging the government to go for lockdown but actually, most of the prime minister not land at the lessons from march and he delayed it until november and it's too late and we loosened in december in the run up to christmas eve and his cases were rising, that is what we saw such a high death toll in the second wave to us as we did in the first wave and i think the conclusions of the same of the prime minister adapted more quickly, that toll could've been cut. and i think thatis toll could've been cut. and i think that is where the serious failings and political leadership of come and report certainly does not mince words and there you have on the guardian front page, one of the worst public health failings in the history of the uk, which is really quite something, i think. find history of the uk, which is really quite something, i think. and the mail, giving _ quite something, i think. and the mail, giving that _ quite something, i think. and the mail, giving that it's _ quite something, i think. and the mail, giving that it's probably - mail, giving that it's probably sympathetic with government, pretty scathing in its criticism and i'm not sure if it's quite put in these terms, because it doesn't put it in quotes, this said the elderly were just an afterthought. i quotes, this said the elderly were just an afterthought.— just an afterthought. i think this is 'ust just an afterthought. i think this isjust highlighting _ just an afterthought. i think this isjust highlighting stuff- just an afterthought. i think this is just highlighting stuff that's i isjust highlighting stuff that's come — isjust highlighting stuff that's come out in recent months which there _ come out in recent months which there really was the plan and the tragedy— there really was the plan and the tragedy was that in preparing for the pandemic and lots of covid—19 emissions, — the pandemic and lots of covid—19 emissions, hospitals discharge people — emissions, hospitals discharge people and there were people that were not_ people and there were people that were not routinely tested and people that took_ were not routinely tested and people that took covid—19 from hospitals into care — that took covid—19 from hospitals into care homes and care homes became — into care homes and care homes became breeding grounds and we thousands and thousands of people lost their— thousands and thousands of people lost their lives as a result and the care home — lost their lives as a result and the care home question was something that was— care home question was something that was really difficult for any country — that was really difficult for any country to get right and it was like there _ country to get right and it was like there was— country to get right and it was like there was a — country to get right and it was like there was a magic solution out there but certain— there was a magic solution out there but certain things in the care homes, _ but certain things in the care homes, the fact that there was a contingency plan in place, the fact that it _ contingency plan in place, the fact that it took us so long to get the capacity— that it took us so long to get the capacity up to each scratch, i think it does— capacity up to each scratch, i think it does raise — capacity up to each scratch, i think it does raise really serious questions and i think that they tried to pretend _ questions and i think that they tried to pretend oh, _ questions and i think that tri21: tried to pretend oh, that questions and i think that tri21r tried to pretend oh, that wasn't happening and after the fact, sort of try to say that it does rewrite history and say that a protective ring had been thrown around care homes and those really really upsetting for people who lost relatives and parents and uncles and care homes because it was clear that serious mistakes are made i think it's better sometimes that ministers just fess up to them and say look, of got something really seriously wrong here. the of got something really seriously wrong here-— of got something really seriously wron: here. ., ,._ wrong here. the government did say that it had made _ wrong here. the government did say that it had made mistakes _ wrong here. the government did say that it had made mistakes in - wrong here. the government did say that it had made mistakes in the - that it had made mistakes in the handling — that it had made mistakes in the handling of this, but it would also say that— handling of this, but it would also say that it's been a response from the group — say that it's been a response from the group set—up and to represent bereaved — the group set—up and to represent bereaved families during the pandemic and they were pretty unhappy— pandemic and they were pretty unhappy with the report despite the of the _ unhappy with the report despite the of the report actually pretty hard—hitting and it does actually go on to— hard—hitting and it does actually go on to praise the vaccine roll—out and the — on to praise the vaccine roll—out and the families are quite upset about— and the families are quite upset about that tonight. they feel underplayed, the wider issues here. but i underplayed, the wider issues here. but i think— underplayed, the wider issues here. but i think i've been wanting to see about— but i think i've been wanting to see about this — but i think i've been wanting to see about this report was that however you want _ about this report was that however you want to read it, obviously, the family— you want to read it, obviously, the family is— you want to read it, obviously, the family is upset about that aspect of it and _ family is upset about that aspect of it and it _ family is upset about that aspect of it and it does make recommendations about— it and it does make recommendations about how— it and it does make recommendations about how they should change in the future _ about how they should change in the future and _ about how they should change in the future and it calls for opponents capacity— future and it calls for opponents capacity in — future and it calls for opponents capacity in the nhs to deal with this kind — capacity in the nhs to deal with this kind of issue and whether or not that— this kind of issue and whether or not that should happen again or be prepared _ not that should happen again or be prepared for the future and also it calls for— prepared for the future and also it calls for the government to have a constant _ calls for the government to have a constant lookout for threats of this kind and _ constant lookout for threats of this kind and be ready to respond. and obviously. — kind and be ready to respond. and obviously, we all live through the pandemic— obviously, we all live through the pandemic and we know what went wrong, _ pandemic and we know what went wrong, this is also about looking to the future — wrong, this is also about looking to the future as by making recommendations and it can be of some _ recommendations and it can be of some solace to some people out there _ some solace to some people out there. it— some solace to some people out there. , ., ., ., there. it is important that a report like this, like _ there. it is important that a report like this, like health _ there. it is important that a report like this, like health and _ there. it is important that a report like this, like health and science i like this, like health and science should look at lessons to be learned, and notjust looking at the failures of what went wrong, which, the damage is done. sam, the front of the times, hit by gas price races, they do say that, don't they? wasn't only yesterday that we were having no bailouts. right? it has accelerated _ having no bailouts. right? it has accelerated since _ having no bailouts. right? it has accelerated since then. - having no bailouts. right? it has accelerated since then. absolutely. i think there's been a battle between the treasury and the business department about how the government should respond to this heavy industry the the government should respond to this heavy industr— this heavy industry the really stru: led this heavy industry the really struggled to _ this heavy industry the really struggled to deal— this heavy industry the really struggled to deal with - this heavy industry the really struggled to deal with the i this heavy industry the reallyl struggled to deal with the gas crisis — struggled to deal with the gas crisis and the hikes impresses. the question— crisis and the hikes impresses. the question is, — crisis and the hikes impresses. the question is, do you let the market forces, _ question is, do you let the market forces, even— question is, do you let the market forces, even if they are extreme, play out? — forces, even if they are extreme, play out? this is the conservative government and preps and i expect that to _ government and preps and i expect that to be _ government and preps and i expect that to be the response and certainly, an acknowledgement between number ten certainly, an acknowledgement between numberten in certainly, an acknowledgement between number ten in the business department and if you have industries that are effectively viable — industries that are effectively viable industries collapsing because of this— viable industries collapsing because of this temporary surge in gas prices, — of this temporary surge in gas prices, that will not be good for anybody. — prices, that will not be good for anybody, certainly not great for them _ anybody, certainly not great for them. and i think in time will have some _ them. and i think in time will have some details on the bailout and in the form — some details on the bailout and in the form of— some details on the bailout and in the form of loans that we may not of learned _ the form of loans that we may not of learned yet. — the form of loans that we may not of learned yet, it will be worth it. if learned yet, it will be worth it. if you learned yet, it will be worth it. you walk learned yet, it will be worth it. if you walk the westminster patch and spend an enormous amounts of time there, probably more time than you and yourfamily would, there, probably more time than you and your family would, but what do you make of this over the weekend, quoted again on the front of the times, this is a source telling journalists, apparently a treasury source, this is not the first on the businesses of made things up to be crystal clear that they are not involved in this. it was a pretty strong put down.— involved in this. it was a pretty strong put down. yes, and as we're workin: strong put down. yes, and as we're working yesterday, _ strong put down. yes, and as we're working yesterday, spoke _ strong put down. yes, and as we're working yesterday, spoke to - strong put down. yes, and as we'rej working yesterday, spoke to people in the treasury. working yesterday, spoke to people in the treasury-— in the treasury. there were quite keen to make — in the treasury. there were quite keen to make sure _ in the treasury. there were quite keen to make sure that - in the treasury. there were quite keen to make sure that the - in the treasury. there were quite - keen to make sure that the message was out _ keen to make sure that the message was out there that this was not something that they weren't engaged in meetings about, bailouts, but i find, _ in meetings about, bailouts, but i find, surely— in meetings about, bailouts, but i find, surely you've done this yourself, _ find, surely you've done this yourself, and actually, but we do with these — yourself, and actually, but we do with these sources, they are not going _ with these sources, they are not going off— with these sources, they are not going off piece, they're doing this with the _ going off piece, they're doing this with the authorisation of the bosses _ with the authorisation of the bosses. so, this is not someone going _ bosses. so, this is not someone going rogue and going over the top. they've _ going rogue and going over the top. they've done this for purpose than the purpose is, they feel that they've — the purpose is, they feel that they've bounced into things that they've bounced into things that they don't want to spend money on actually, _ they don't want to spend money on actually, ordinarily, it is ministers that, in order to briefly does, _ ministers that, in order to briefly does. it— ministers that, in order to briefly does. it was— ministers that, in order to briefly does, it was quite a big thing. i does, it was quite a big thing. don't know does, it was quite a big thing. i don't know people have been watching, but i'm sure you've gone across the documentaries about them which is riddled with all of these tensions and it took me back to the 20005 tensions and it took me back to the 2000s and the unacknowledged bag feeling against the — bad feeling against the treasury and we've got the loans for the sit by gas prices but is that something that's going to where the government a little bit more if that early in its life, we've already got this level of briefing between number ten and parts of government and number 11 and nine numberii parts of government and number 11 and nine number” has parts of government and number 11 and nine number 11 has been stepped on by number ten, this could get out of hand if they don't get a grip of it quite quickly. of hand if they don't get a grip of it quite quickly-— it quite quickly. after confess. even though — it quite quickly. after confess. even though i _ it quite quickly. after confess. even though i am _ it quite quickly. after confess. even though i am a _ it quite quickly. after confess. even though i am a political. it quite quickly. after confess. - even though i am a political geek, i have not seen the documentary yet. i'm probably one of the last people who has because i know it has rave reviews. but for you to put your finger on something there in the sense that there's always been these claims of tension between number ten in the treasury and the quite unusual when you don't have those tensions and so, it works quite well together and actually unusual dynamic and part of that is institutional. part of that is the treasury just does institutional. part of that is the treasuryjust does not like spending money and tends to be a restraining force against the political will of the government and that sort of gets reflected in the chancellor but i think here is something just like political tensions between blair and brown, these tensions between boris johnson and richey sue neck art, i think, that this is a big political ideologicalfight think, that this is a big political ideological fight within the conservative part and during the pandemic, rishi sunak was against putting on restrictions like others in the cabinet were really pushing it from a public health perspective and so rishi sunak was responsible for pulling back and we can see again, this the thrust from number ten and terms of policy and boris has this level number gender that doesn't seem to be much policy behind it but things like supporting big companies that otherwise would be absolutely fine, but that's got to be part of the levelling up agenda and you can't have industry across the mittens in the north is going to bust because of the energy crisis in rishi sunak really trying to put the brake on and this is the big tension that is going to define the conservative party in the next three or four years and i the conservative party in the next three orfour years and i think the conservative party in the next three or four years and i think that is going to determine the extent of which borisjohnson come there's a lot of rhetoric from levelling up and we're going to see investment? i'm quite sceptical of that. but i think the political dynamic is really going to hold back. don't anic, really going to hold back. don't panic. we _ really going to hold back. don't panic. we can _ really going to hold back. don't panic, we can fill _ really going to hold back. don't panic, we can fill the _ really going to hold back. don't panic, we can fill the shelves . really going to hold back. don'tl panic, we can fill the shelves for christmas. i panic, we can fill the shelves for christmas— panic, we can fill the shelves for christmas. " f , ., christmas. i think they're trying to send out some _ christmas. i think they're trying to send out some reassuring - christmas. i think they're trying to send out some reassuring smokel send out some reassuring smoke signals to the public and given the empty shelves that we have seen in recent weeks in the conflation of a huge number of factors is because partly brexit, partly labour shortages and partly fuel shortages and partly co2 shortages and allow these things are very interlinked but it really does show actually that the uk's food supply chain and people are really worried about the pandemic and it held up the pandemic is expert says it would, it can only hold up so long in terms of a lot of it being just in time. they're quite fragile supply chains in the sense of a lot of things need to work in us and something goes in the chain, can be quite difficult. but this is the government tried to avoid people trying to go out and panic buying for christmas and next two or three weeks that leads to more empty shelves by panic buying can be a quite self—fulfilling prophecy and things are going to run out and more likely to going by more which means and some are likely to rent out. you can already — and some are likely to rent out. you can already buy _ and some are likely to rent out. you can already buy most of the insured for christmas now because christmas seems to get earlier and earlier. yes, i was out shopping on saturday and the _ yes, i was out shopping on saturday and the love — yes, i was out shopping on saturday and the love the christmas gifts are out shopping on saturday and allow the christmas gifts route along with the christmas gifts route along with the halloween gifts. and a different scenario— the halloween gifts. and a different scenario here and retell bosses are actually _ scenario here and retell bosses are actually asking shoppers to be considerate of other shoppers and there's— considerate of other shoppers and there's a — considerate of other shoppers and there's a call for people to be respectful on the go to the supermarket and don't just take all of the _ supermarket and don't just take all of the pasta or the pies. and the weekly— of the pasta or the pies. and the weekly shoppers, the message is, the independent retailers association and also — independent retailers association and also various supermarket bosses say look. _ and also various supermarket bosses say look, there may be some shortages, but actually, we are working — shortages, but actually, we are working hard and on the whole, we are going _ working hard and on the whole, we are going to— working hard and on the whole, we are going to be all right when it comes— are going to be all right when it comes to — are going to be all right when it comes to supplies. to are going to be all right when it comes to supplies.— are going to be all right when it comes to supplies. to end on the daily telegraph. _ comes to supplies. to end on the daily telegraph, this _ comes to supplies. to end on the daily telegraph, this is _ daily telegraph, this is interesting. gp telephone consultations being incorrectly classified as face—to—face when they're happening on the phone. i5 classified as face—to—face when they're happening on the phone. is a teleu-rah they're happening on the phone. is 5. telegraph reader who posted this they're happening on the phone. is a| telegraph reader who posted this and she posted that all the appointments she posted that all the appointments she had _ she posted that all the appointments she had by telephone from memory, were recorded and her records as face—to—face appointments and officials — face—to—face appointments and officials admitted that that does happen, — officials admitted that that does happen, classified and as face—to—face or telephone, by the government is really team to get people _ government is really team to get people face—to—face again and how do you measure — people face—to—face again and how do you measure that if i recorded correctly? _ you measure that if i recorded correctly?— you measure that if i recorded correctl ? ., ., ., correctly? your last thought on this? i correctly? your last thought on this? | think _ correctly? your last thought on this? | think the _ correctly? your last thought on this? i think the gp _ correctly? your last thought on this? i think the gp shortages. correctly? your last thought on - this? i think the gp shortages have to factor this _ this? i think the gp shortages have to factor this in _ this? i think the gp shortages have to factor this in but _ this? i think the gp shortages have to factor this in but also, it - this? i think the gp shortages have to factor this in but also, it is - to factor this in but also, it is important to be precise about what we want and for some people, telephone consultations work well and i preferred personally. but for some people, it is important to see your gp face—to—face especially if your gp face—to—face especially if you have long—term health conditions and i think it's about being precise about what we are looking for from our health system.— our health system. thank you both ve much our health system. thank you both very much and _ our health system. thank you both very much and lovely _ our health system. thank you both very much and lovely to _ our health system. thank you both very much and lovely to speak- our health system. thank you both very much and lovely to speak to l our health system. thank you both l very much and lovely to speak to you and i'm glad we managed, it is a telephone call but at least it is sort of face—to—face. thank you very much for your company and will be back again and i'll be back tomorrow evening at the same time, same channel. good evening, i'm tt and this is your sports news where we start with football and wales have beaten estonia 1—0 to keep their world cup qualification hopes alive. it was a hard fought win in tallin and watching was andy swiss. after two consecutive draws, for wales, this was all about winning. they needed to beat estonia to boost their hopes for a playoff place in the early signs were encouraging. soon forced the save and from the resulting corner, things got even better. they may not win too many goal of the season awards, but moore was not complaining. a good old—fashioned scramble and wells were ahead. a good old—fashioned scramble and wales were ahead. but it was a lead they nearly gave away. an offensive mix—up in they needed jill's goal line clearance to spare their blushes. and again, it was estonia asking the questions only a stunning save from danny kept wales in front. where the end, the struggle to create chances, mark harris was one of the select few. are the pretty but wales held on to the victory and another night where winning was the key, it was job done. despite their last minute win over israel at the weekend, scotland manager steve clarke has warned his players that their next opponents, the faroe islands, are not to be underestimated. clarke confirmed that che adams will miss the match tomorrow after picking up an injury in their win over israel, but that there were no other injuries. scotland have played the faroe islands many times in the past, but clarke says their squad has developed significantly and will also have home advantage. the atmosphere and what we are going to face over there will be different to what a lot of these players have faced before but the historic results don't matter. what does matter is that faroe now, they are improving all the time, much improved, qualified little section of the nations league and can win this. the new part owner of newcastle amanda staveley has met manager steve bruce at the clubs training ground amid speculation about his future. staveley, who owns 10% of the club, met players along with her partner as the squad got preparations underway for their match against tottenham this weekend. a large proportion of fans want bruce to leave after a poor start to the season. the majority owners are a saudi led consortium who took over the club in a controversial £305m deal and have been linked with former borussia dortmund manager lucien favre and former chelsea boss frank lampard as potential replacements. dan evans has lost his third round match to argentina's diego schwartzmann at the indian wells masters. evans who beatjapan's kei nishikori in the last round came from it i down to take the first set 7 5 and held a break of serve in the second set before losing that 6 it and the last set to 16. after a comfortable victory. six timer champion made light work of his opponent in belfast and will not play fellow englishmen for a place in the last 16. deontay wilder won't quit boxing despite losing to tyson fury, that's according to his trainer malik scott. the american heavyweight was knocked out in the 11th round by fury in their wbc world championship fight in las vegas on saturday, the second time that he's lost to fury. england's cricketer�*s are in quarantine after arriving at a training camp in the middle east to prepare for the upcoming t20 world cup. oman is hosting the tournament, along with the united arab emirates. their opening match is against west indies in just under three weeks time, chris woakes has been speaking about the difficulties of isolating. we've been in hard quarantine to start with, and we haven't left the hotel until today to get out to train and so today was the first training session and we did a bit of fitness within the hotel and nothing other than that. today was the first blowout and obviously, getting used to the heat because pretty hot out here. good to get a run out. ireland's amy hunter has become the youngest player, male or female, to hit an international century. the school girl from belfast turned 16 today and she reached 121 not out in the one day victory against zimbabwe in harare. hunter said she wasn't even sure how to celebrate the milestone. it feels very good. it's a bit surreal. i don't know what to think after coming out of there. i just want to get there and i didn't know take the helmet off or keep it on. i didn't do so well on the first three games, some just delighted to be out there and get the first four and just kind of, from 50 to 100 felt like it went much quicker. so, it was really good. now to california, where all eyes have been at the beach where a whole range of worldwide talent has been on show. this is the 12th annual surf city surf dog competition. around a0 dogs took part from around the world took part in the event all showcasing their different skills on the waves in several different classes. there to say that it was a rough ride. for all other information, you can go to the bbc website. that is all your sport for now. hello. it was a chilly start to monday for many a morning commuter, and it will be again on tuesday morning for one or two, particularly across some southern counties of england and south wales, as well as the far north east of scotland. it's these areas where you'll have the clearest of the skies to begin with. in between, temperatures much higher than they were on monday, and that's because of this weather front and the cloud from it stretching across scotland into eastern england. and that's going to be inching a little bit further westwards as we go through tuesday. high pressure still, though, in the far west, keeping things dry. only an isolated shower possible, still some sunny spells. but a lot of cloud across scotland and central, northern and eastern england. that could produce some light rain or drizzle here and there, maybe as far west as the home counties as we go through into the afternoon. to the west of it, we'll keep temperatures on the high side for this stage in october, maybe up to around 16—17 degrees. but notice down these eastern coasts of scotland and north east england, where they're getting on the other side of that weather front, more of a northerly wind, temperatures only around 10—13 celsius. whereas by wednesday, these same areas should warm up a little bit because the wind is going to shift direction. we're going to see our area of high pressure drift a bit further southwards. in doing so, atlantic winds will start to dominate, pushing away that weather front back eastwards in towards the north sea. but it'll reactivate across the farther north of scotland. this is where we'll see outbreaks of rain overnight into wednesday morning. and whilst there will be some pockets of chillier conditions on wednesday morning, for many, it won't be quite as chilly as tuesday. so, here's the details for wednesday. that weather front continuing to march away. there could be some light rain or drizzle close to some western parts of scotland, but most of you will have a dry day, varying amounts of cloud, some sunny spells. temperatures drop a little bit in western scotland cos the breeze off the sea, but warm, as i said, down those eastern coasts, and most places still around 2—3 degrees above average. but a big drop in temperature is on the way to the north of this weatherfront, which will be pushing in as we go through into thursday, with some strong and gusty winds around it. notice those blue colours pushing southwards. that will be making inroads across scotland on thursday. along with those gusty winds, outbreaks of rain which could be heavy at times, too, making it towards northern ireland, maybe to the borders of england late in the day. but much of england and wales will have a dry day, a bright day, still in the milder air with highs around 16—17. but as that weather front works its way southwards and eastwards, we'll all get a bit chillier for the end of the week in the weekend. colder still across some parts of eastern scotland, but even further south, we could see temperatures this weekend in the mid—teens. bye for now. welcome to newsday. reporting live from singapore, i'm mariko oi. the headlines — risking their lives — we have a special report on the afghan refugees crossing iranian territory in the hope of reaching turkey. the journey is full of risk, but some afghans still feel this is their best hope. as britain stations two more warships in the asia region, the commodore of the carrier strike force tells the bbc the thinking behind the strategy. one third of the world's trade flows through the south china sea, the growing economies here, so it's natural that the united kingdom, you know, wants to have a presence and a say and be involved in this really important region. important new data from the uk shows that one in six

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