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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are lizzy buchan, chief political correspondent at the daily mirror & henry zeffman, chief political correspondent at the times. tomorrow's front pages starting with... the metro which splashes on the war of words between the business secretary and the chancellor over extra support for industry during the energy crisis. the telegraph goes with the same story, describing how kwasi kwarteng was �*slapped down�* by the treasury with one number 11 source saying that this was �*not the first time�* the secretary of state for business has made things up in interviews. the mail continues its campaign for face to face gp appointments this time drawing attention to the shrinking number of family doctors in relation to the growth in population its calculations edtimate an average of one gp per 2,000 patients. the guardian reports on a �*growing tide of abuse�* from patients towards nhs staff as they face long waits for care. an investigation in the times reveals sexual misconduct claims against 2,000 police officers over the past four years the paper accuses police forces of prioritising their reputation overjustice in its handling of these claims. the sun declares �*ty am the greatest�* showing the moment tyson fury secures his stunning victory over deontay wilder. and the star goes with a typically measured and reasoned warning of bad weather. let�*s begin with fuel of course where we are going to begin and we have been with henry because he has got a lead on the times front page. ministers clashed over help for factories and making things up, take it away as it�*s your story. fix, factories and making things up, take it away as it's your story.— it away as it's your story. a very stranue it away as it's your story. a very strange story — it away as it's your story. a very strange story as _ it away as it's your story. a very strange story as well _ it away as it's your story. a very strange story as well because i it away as it's your story. a very strange story as well because it | it away as it's your story. a very l strange story as well because it is notjust he and rishi sunak clashing over what to do about the consequences of these dramatic energy price rises for certain industries, it is then clashing about whether they have even talked about whether they have even talked about what they might do. so the business secretary gave a series of interviews this morning in which he said in various different terms that he was in discussions with the chancellor about what they might do to help industry. and then at about 10am came extraordinary rebuke from sources in the treasury saying no thatis sources in the treasury saying no that is not true, we have not discussed this at all and it�*s not the first time the business secretary has made things up and broadcast them. which is a rather strange thing for one part of the government to be saying about another senior member of another part of the government. ultimately where does this leave the businesses that need to know what kind of assistance if any that might be seen from the government — assistance. the answer is, we don�*t know. i think that�*s probably the most damaging element of a series of quite a bad headlines for the government tomorrow. find quite a bad headlines for the government tomorrow. and it doesn't 'ust sto government tomorrow. and it doesn't just step there. _ government tomorrow. and it doesn't just stop there, does _ government tomorrow. and it doesn't just stop there, does it? _ government tomorrow. and it doesn't just stop there, does it? there's - government tomorrow. and it doesn't just stop there, does it? there's a - just stop there, does it? there�*s a real dilemma of what the government has got to do to keep everybody happy. everybody has special pleading. happy. everybody has special ”leadin. ~ . , , ., pleading. what is quite strange about it as _ pleading. what is quite strange about it as henry _ pleading. what is quite strange about it as henry says - pleading. what is quite strange about it as henry says is - pleading. what is quite strange| about it as henry says is there's pleading. what is quite strange i about it as henry says is there's a row about— about it as henry says is there's a row about whether these talks are taking _ row about whether these talks are taking place but they made the point earlier_ taking place but they made the point earlier saying if the talks are not taking _ earlier saying if the talks are not taking place then what is the government doing? because there's clearly— government doing? because there's clearly a _ government doing? because there's clearly a very serious situation happening, everybody is asking for help across all different industries and if_ help across all different industries and if the — help across all different industries and if the treasury is not having talks _ and if the treasury is not having talks with — and if the treasury is not having talks with the business department about_ talks with the business department about this sort of stuff than what is it doing? you know, and i think that it's _ is it doing? you know, and i think that it's a — is it doing? you know, and i think that it's a very challenging situation for the government because there's— situation for the government because there's so— situation for the government because there's so many different fires they are fighting at the moment. it's a very complicated picture and we got some _ very complicated picture and we got some shortages of labour in different areas thinking about visas, — different areas thinking about visas, how do you try and rescale people _ visas, how do you try and rescale mate to — visas, how do you try and rescale people to drive these and everyone from the _ people to drive these and everyone from the chemical sector to the meat processing _ from the chemical sector to the meat processing industry to try and make sure that _ processing industry to try and make sure that everybody stays afloat. but ultimately some of the papers were pulling into different lines about _ were pulling into different lines about how it's going to impact on families— about how it's going to impact on families and consumers, what do the shortages _ families and consumers, what do the shortages mean for christmas? let�*s shortages mean for christmas? let's look at the front _ shortages mean for christmas? let's look at the front page _ shortages mean for christmas? let�*s look at the front page here, gas price clash over bailout for factories and supermarkets encouraging people to buy for christmas already.— encouraging people to buy for christmas already. extra nerve warninus christmas already. extra nerve warnings from _ christmas already. extra nerve warnings from coming - christmas already. extra nerve warnings from coming out - christmas already. extra nerve warnings from coming out in i christmas already. extra nerve l warnings from coming out in this particular— warnings from coming out in this particular line that's an unnamed leading _ particular line that's an unnamed leading supermarket chain we have been having talks with government saying _ been having talks with government saying they basically want shoppers to start _ saying they basically want shoppers to start buying their christmas supplies— to start buying their christmas supplies now and that they want supermarkets to be doing the kind of festive _ supermarkets to be doing the kind of festive office early to stop people panic— festive office early to stop people panic buying end november and december which is a challenging situation — december which is a challenging situation for the government to be in and _ situation for the government to be in and supermarkets to be in. we have _ in and supermarkets to be in. we have seen— in and supermarkets to be in. we have seen with what's been happening with petrol— have seen with what's been happening with petrol recently that panic buying — with petrol recently that panic buying fuels panic buying and we could _ buying fuels panic buying and we could be — buying fuels panic buying and we could be in a very challenging situatioh _ could be in a very challenging situation in the run up to christmas.— situation in the run up to christmas. ., ., christmas. one of the other subheadings _ christmas. one of the other subheadings there - christmas. one of the other subheadings there is - christmas. one of the otherl subheadings there is officials christmas. one of the other- subheadings there is officials blood ran cold when they were presented with the scale of the problem sources say as the business secretary fails to guarantee enough energy to heat homes this winter. we would have been told there will be enough energy. would have been told there will be enough energy-— enough energy. there are two problems _ enough energy. there are two problems here, _ enough energy. there are two problems here, the _ enough energy. there are two problems here, the consumer| enough energy. there are two - problems here, the consumer side and business side. on the consumer side while he did not make that guarantee today, i think the government seems a little bit more, and it is relative, but a little bit more assured that that will turn out to be ok. of course there�*s the consumer price cap which means that for individuals in their homes the price should not run too far out of their control. and on the business side is a probably with the subheading refers to, there was a meeting with various industry leaders in the business secretary on friday night and people from all sorts of industry intensive industries steps steel, chemicals, and there really brisk with the government about how bad this could get, telling the government i understand that if they shut down some of that would never be able to open again. if not the case he could shut now temporarily as one person put it to me. 0nce shut now temporarily as one person put it to me. once you turn a blast furnace off it�*s quite hard to turn it back on. and i do think that meeting has really shocked officials and has woken them up to the fact that this is a really serious crisis which could see factories shut down not even in weeks but perhaps from days. that�*s why to bring it back to the story the summary papers are leading on it�*s absolutely particular that the government has spent today in a row about whether they are even talking about this. not in a row about what they�*re going to do about it. abs, not in a row about what they're going to do about it.— not in a row about what they're going to do about it. a couple of holster stories _ going to do about it. a couple of holster stories now, _ going to do about it. a couple of holster stories now, just - going to do about it. a couple of holster stories now, just a - going to do about it. a couple of| holster stories now, just a single gp for every 2000 patients, no wonder it�*s so hard to see a doctor in person. 0ne wonder it�*s so hard to see a doctor in person. one of the daily mail deposit campaign saying we should have face—to—face appointments now. they�*ve been pushing very hard and they've been pushing very hard and try to _ they've been pushing very hard and try to increase the number of face—to—face appointments that patients— face—to—face appointments that patients can have. it has been a challenge — patients can have. it has been a challenge for gps to build back—up after the _ challenge for gps to build back—up after the pandemic and there's all sorts— after the pandemic and there's all sorts of— after the pandemic and there's all sorts of propagated issues around patients— sorts of propagated issues around patients feeling safe to go into their— patients feeling safe to go into their gp — patients feeling safe to go into their gp and all of that. but ultimately seeing your gp face—to—face is always better because _ face—to—face is always better because they are more likely to be able to— because they are more likely to be able to diagnose problems in the art of resume _ able to diagnose problems in the art of resume or any other kind of conferencing software. so that's the kind of— conferencing software. so that's the kind of background of that. obviously the mail is drilling into the fact— obviously the mail is drilling into the fact here that there are wide—ranging, wide arching problems here with _ wide—ranging, wide arching problems here with shortages of staff, with kind of— here with shortages of staff, with kind of burn—out, with stress amongst _ kind of burn—out, with stress amongst gps and also just with wider workforce _ amongst gps and also just with wider workforce pressures in the health service _ workforce pressures in the health service so — workforce pressures in the health service. so it's not as straightforward as gps just saying we don't — straightforward as gps just saying we don't want to do face—to—face appointments, which is not what they're _ appointments, which is not what they're saying, it's dealing with they're saying, it's dealing with the workload and the increase in demand — the workload and the increase in demand and the fact that there's a growing _ demand and the fact that there's a growing and ageing population and that need more help with their care. and some _ that need more help with their care. and some people are quite happy with virtual appointments. and some people are quite happy with virtualappointments. i and some people are quite happy with virtual appointments. i suppose it�*s about choice. find virtual appointments. i suppose it's about choice-— virtual appointments. i suppose it's about choice. �* , about choice. and people campaigning for more in person _ about choice. and people campaigning for more in person appointment - about choice. and people campaigning for more in person appointment would not want to deny people that had virtual appointments the ability to keep having virtual appointments. quite an interesting shift of emphasis in government recently, i think matt hancock was much more evangelistic about the sort of potential benefits of zouma medicine products available. but the new health secretary at saja javid was still relatively new, seems a little bit more oriented towards this campaign in a bit more eagerfor gps to go back to face—to—face appointments. that may be quite an interesting tussle between doctor prospect bodies and the government over the upcoming months and years. listed at the guardian, and waiting list trigger tide of abuse against staff. frustrations of people who feel they waited long enough being taken out against his very people who were going to care for us. find who were going to care for us. and ruite a who were going to care for us. and quite a serious _ who were going to care for us. fific quite a serious way these reports of assaults notjust people venting frustration at the waiting list and some sort of mild way. this is a crisis that is on the face of it not going to improve any soon because we are being geared for the idea that wingless are only going to get worse and the until the backlog is dealt with. all source of staffing pressures that are not going to get worse. one of the various representative body said theyjust want the government to be honest and transparent with the public about the scale of the problem. i don�*t think that would solve the abuse sadly. i think it would be a good thing the government being honest and transparent about problems is always a good thing. it�*s very concerning, i can�*t confess to have any solutions but it does feel a far cry from not that long ago where we were all banging pots and pans and celebration of health workers. seems like a lifetime ago.— lifetime ago. they say that politicians _ lifetime ago. they say that politicians need _ lifetime ago. they say that politicians need to - lifetime ago. they say that politicians need to be - lifetime ago. they say that l politicians need to be honest lifetime ago. they say that - politicians need to be honest with us but we really want honesty as an electorate? we think we do but when we relate the consequences of we might have to sort of pay more for the things that we say we cherish. yes and that is a big question in general, but i think in this context you know the public has love and support for the nhs, it is something thatis support for the nhs, it is something that is cross party goes across the divide and you ask the public for money for the nhs and there�*s supportive of that. boris johnson was able to get through manifesto busting tax hikes recently despite anger from conservative mps because it was for the nhs and social care. and i think that there is an element where the government does need to be straightforward with people about the fact that these things, covid has been a massive hit on the health service in these things will take time to recover. where the quite interesting in the article is the representative bodies that are written to the government about this make the points to the paper that they think there�*s been a shift in kind of government messaging around the nhs and they feel like they�*re being slightly hung out to dry a little bit. that is not about actually whether the government is being honest about what needs to be done but whether the government entrenches that the shift of the responsibility for building recovering from the pandemic onto the medics with campaigns like trying to get people back into face—to—face appointments and get over the backlog as if the government taking a step back from responsibility for it. let government taking a step back from responsibility for it.— responsibility for it. let us finish with the daily — responsibility for it. let us finish with the daily mirror. _ responsibility for it. let us finish with the daily mirror. only - responsibility for it. let us finish with the daily mirror. only here| responsibility for it. let us finish i with the daily mirror. only here for the peer. boris taking it easy again, where has he gone to? he boris taking it easy again, where has he gone to?— boris taking it easy again, where has he gone to? boris taking it easy again, where has he one to? , ., has he gone to? he has, yeah, he has one in has he gone to? he has, yeah, he has gone in emergence _ has he gone to? he has, yeah, he has gone in emergence or— has he gone to? he has, yeah, he has gone in emergence or they _ has he gone to? he has, yeah, he has gone in emergence or they had - has he gone to? he has, yeah, he has gone in emergence or they had gone i gone in emergence or they had gone across— gone in emergence or they had gone across to _ gone in emergence or they had gone across to the costa del sol for a holiday— across to the costa del sol for a holiday with his wife and young son. and we _ holiday with his wife and young son. and we are — holiday with his wife and young son. and we are reporting today that he is staying _ and we are reporting today that he is staying in a house owned by the peer lord — is staying in a house owned by the peer lord goldsmith who is a friend of carrie _ peer lord goldsmith who is a friend of carrie johnson from the prime minister— of carrie johnson from the prime minister public wife, she worked on one of— minister public wife, she worked on one of his _ minister public wife, she worked on one of his electoral campaigns. and they are _ one of his electoral campaigns. and they are having a very relaxed break there _ they are having a very relaxed break there. some people would argue that there. some people would argue that the prime _ there. some people would argue that the prime minister is entitled to a break. _ the prime minister is entitled to a break. had — the prime minister is entitled to a break, had a tough year and worked very hard _ break, had a tough year and worked very hard some people much of the objects— very hard some people much of the objects of— very hard some people much of the objects of this are not great when we have _ objects of this are not great when we have just spent most of this paper— we have just spent most of this paper reviewed talking about the various _ paper reviewed talking about the various crises engulfing britain as the prime — various crises engulfing britain as the prime minister is sunning himself— the prime minister is sunning himself in a very expensive house in spain _ himself in a very expensive house in spain but— himself in a very expensive house in spain but i— himself in a very expensive house in spain. but i will leave that to the viewers _ spain. but i will leave that to the viewers to— spain. but i will leave that to the viewers to decide.— viewers to decide. should he be auoin viewers to decide. should he be going away _ viewers to decide. should he be going away at — viewers to decide. should he be going away at all? _ viewers to decide. should he be going away at all? everyone - viewers to decide. should he be i going away at all? everyone needs viewers to decide. should he be - going away at all? everyone needs a break and holiday but he was away not so long ago, henry. ihe break and holiday but he was away not so long ago, henry.— break and holiday but he was away not so long ago, henry. he was not actuall . not so long ago, henry. he was not actually- his— not so long ago, henry. he was not actually. his thought _ not so long ago, henry. he was not actually. his thought it _ not so long ago, henry. he was not actually. his thought it was - not so long ago, henry. he was not actually. his thought it was cut - actually. his thought it was cut short after just actually. his thought it was cut short afterjust a actually. his thought it was cut short after just a day when the teller seized kabul and he came back to london. so i think he is welcome to london. so i think he is welcome to a holiday, i think there is no period particularly at the prime minister is could go abroad or on holiday where there�*s not some sort of crisis. the house is not sitting this coming week, and i do think it�*s strange, the prime minister public predilections for staying in villas owned by other people, tony blair went on holiday to villas on beit silvio berlusconi

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