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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are yasmin alibhai brown who's an author and journalist and mick booker who's the editor of the sunday express. thank you for staying with us tonight. great to see you both. have a quick run through it what we have at the moment. the times has an interview with the prime minister, in which he says the public were right to feel the police were failing women and girls subjected to sexual assault. meanwhile the telegraph has spoken to the home secretary, who said police must "raise the bar" by taking harassment against women more seriously. the guardian says police recorded more than 10,000 cases of indecent exposure last year, but fewer than 600 suspects appeared in court. fuel is the focus for the i which says the army will begin delivering petrol to forecourts on monday. same story for the mail. it also has a warning from the chancellor that food shortages will last for months. the mirror describes borisjohnson as �*dithering', saying britain is grinding to a halt. the ft reports on a new antiviral drug that could halve the risk of covid death. and the express says a rush on cut price holidays with a week in tenerife available for less than £270. yes then, the holiday is quite tempting when you look at all the front pages and you realise what's going on here. the daily mail, petro at last, the army goes in. is that a sign of relief or how desperate things are or both perhaps? i sign of relief or how desperate things are or both perhaps? i think it's aaain things are or both perhaps? i think it's again the _ things are or both perhaps? i think it's again the kind _ things are or both perhaps? i think it's again the kind of— things are or both perhaps? i think it's again the kind of thing, - it's again the kind of thing, bringing in the army and evoke the war was that there is a cry great romance about our soldiers step again. and good on them. 200 of them aren't going to solve this problem. there is a very funny tweet i don't know if other people start, which is saying for brexiteers lawyers the hardest word, 200 then resumed their then, are not to be able to solve then, are not to be able to solve the lori crisis. but it sounds good, it feels good and i suppose everybody wants to feel good at the moment. ~ . , everybody wants to feel good at the moment. a , ., everybody wants to feel good at the moment. , ., , , everybody wants to feel good at the moment. y., ., ,, moment. many of the papers obviously focusin: on moment. many of the papers obviously focusing on the — moment. many of the papers obviously focusing on the ongoing _ moment. many of the papers obviously focusing on the ongoing petrol- focusing on the ongoing petrol crisis was at the daily mirror has got the headline saying caught short, britain grinding to a halt. every sector of the economy hit by the worker crisis of a gathering prime minister finally causing the army. do you think people except that the government is facing a number of pushes on covid and brexit and there for this is just more responsible or do you think the government really is being blamed for what's going on? i government really is being blamed for what's going on?— government really is being blamed for what's going on? i think there's clear frustration _ for what's going on? i think there's clear frustration out _ for what's going on? i think there's clear frustration out there. - for what's going on? i think there's clear frustration out there. people | clear frustration out there. people haven't _ clear frustration out there. people haven't taken to the streets with flaming — haven't taken to the streets with flaming torchesjust haven't taken to the streets with flaming torches just yet. think they understand that there has been his hu-e understand that there has been his huge amount of problems over the last 18 _ huge amount of problems over the last 18 months. clearly where we are at the _ last 18 months. clearly where we are at the moment, it doesn't look good on the _ at the moment, it doesn't look good on the government. i think most people _ on the government. i think most pennie are — on the government. i think most people are hopeful this year that we will move _ people are hopeful this year that we will move to some sort of semblance of a normal— will move to some sort of semblance of a normal christmas was up now that's_ of a normal christmas was up now that's clearly under pressure at the moment _ that's clearly under pressure at the moment. but i think we look at this christmas _ moment. but i think we look at this christmas and i think this is going to he _ christmas and i think this is going to be quite — christmas and i think this is going to be quite lucky for the government if we look— to be quite lucky for the government if we look at it in contrast to last christmas — if we look at it in contrast to last christmas when we couldn't a chilly io christmas when we couldn't a chilly go into— christmas when we couldn't a chilly go into many other peoples houses most _ go into many other peoples houses most of— go into many other peoples houses most of the time or see any of our loved _ most of the time or see any of our loved ones — most of the time or see any of our loved ones. this time around we are going _ loved ones. this time around we are going to _ loved ones. this time around we are going to have the fuel crisis that's going _ going to have the fuel crisis that's going to _ going to have the fuel crisis that's going to affect us up until christmas, i'm sure this can be shortages _ christmas, i'm sure this can be shortages because various places on and off— shortages because various places on and off for— shortages because various places on and off for a time now because of the driver— and off for a time now because of the driver crisis was up we've also -ot the driver crisis was up we've also got the _ the driver crisis was up we've also got the other problems with supply of many— got the other problems with supply of many other goods again. we've seen _ of many other goods again. we've seen on _ of many other goods again. we've seen on the — of many other goods again. we've seen on the shelves in supermarkets and shops— seen on the shelves in supermarkets and shops already. but i think volr've — and shops already. but i think you've only got a couple of knots and a _ you've only got a couple of knots and a tangerine christmas this year if you _ and a tangerine christmas this year if you are _ and a tangerine christmas this year if you are able to do it with your family— if you are able to do it with your family i— if you are able to do it with your family i think people are going to be relieved at that. however if the government do not get on top of this in the _ government do not get on top of this in the long _ government do not get on top of this in the long term that i think they are in_ in the long term that i think they are in real— in the long term that i think they are in real trouble. in the long term that i think they are in realtrouble.| in the long term that i think they are in realtrouble._ are in realtrouble. i use setting the bar a bit— are in realtrouble. i use setting the bar a bit low— are in realtrouble. i use setting the bar a bit low they _ are in realtrouble. i use setting the bar a bit low they are? - are in realtrouble. i use setting i the bar a bit low they are? we are slightly obsessed with christmas in this country. and it's onlyjust 0ctober this country. and it's onlyjust october was up just to get back to the two front pages, every sector of the two front pages, every sector of the economy hit by the worker crisis was up at the army being cold and in 2021. ~ 4' was up at the army being cold and in 2021. ~ ~ . ., ., , 2021. well, i think the coming in as yasmin starts _ 2021. well, i think the coming in as yasmin starts on, _ 2021. well, i think the coming in as yasmin starts on, it _ 2021. well, i think the coming in as yasmin starts on, it does _ 2021. well, i think the coming in as yasmin starts on, it does seem - 2021. well, i think the coming in as yasmin starts on, it does seem to i 2021. well, i think the coming in as i yasmin starts on, it does seem to be more _ yasmin starts on, it does seem to be more of— yasmin starts on, it does seem to be more of a _ yasmin starts on, it does seem to be more of a symbolic thing. one of the ministers _ more of a symbolic thing. one of the ministers earlier today said it looks— ministers earlier today said it looks as _ ministers earlier today said it looks as though they be another week of the _ looks as though they be another week of the most _ looks as though they be another week of the most severe shortages and cues at— of the most severe shortages and cues at the — of the most severe shortages and cues at the pumps. i think it might be nice _ cues at the pumps. i think it might be nice for— cues at the pumps. i think it might be nice for the government to say that they— be nice for the government to say that they are bringing the army on monday— that they are bringing the army on monday and then a few days later things— monday and then a few days later things settle down a little bit. that's — things settle down a little bit. that's the cynic in me, anyway. it doesn't _ that's the cynic in me, anyway. it doesn't look _ that's the cynic in me, anyway. it doesn't look good under government the army— doesn't look good under government the army being cold out. it's only 200 of— the army being cold out. it's only 200 of them which isn't going to be something — 200 of them which isn't going to be something practically they are going to be able _ something practically they are going to be able to solve a huge amount themselves. i do think if this does dra- themselves. i do think if this does drag on _ themselves. i do think if this does drag on for— themselves. i do think if this does drag on for months and months they are in real— drag on for months and months they are in real trouble. but as i mentioned a while ago and last segment— mentioned a while ago and last segment that there isn't really that much _ segment that there isn't really that much option over what else we can do. much option over what else we can do i_ much option over what else we can do ithink— much option over what else we can do. i think people can tough it out. we know— do. i think people can tough it out. we know it's — do. i think people can tough it out. we know it's going to be a fairly tough _ we know it's going to be a fairly tough months over the winter both keeping _ tough months over the winter both keeping an eye on covid and at same time we _ keeping an eye on covid and at same time we got — keeping an eye on covid and at same time we got fuel crisis, the heating huilds— time we got fuel crisis, the heating huilds i_ time we got fuel crisis, the heating builds i can — time we got fuel crisis, the heating builds i can be going up. and we got inflation _ builds i can be going up. and we got inflation as — builds i can be going up. and we got inflation as well. it's going to be a tough — inflation as well. it's going to be a tough old time for many, many people — a tough old time for many, many people i— a tough old time for many, many people. i don't see a huge backlash at the _ people. i don't see a huge backlash at the government at the moment. yes then, at the government at the moment. then, moving at the government at the moment. 13:3 then, moving to the at the government at the moment. 133 then, moving to the ft they've got their story say french imposed turkeys flying in for christmas dinners. this obsession with christmas is quite amusing. it counts down to what we can get for christmas and a chilly people are much more worried about what's happening right now because people are being pushed on so many fronts. exactly. it makes me laugh as we want to leave the eu and we want turkeys now. we didn't want polish workers there any more but we want their turkeys. workers there any more but we want theirturkeys. it's workers there any more but we want their turkeys. it's this funny thing that we are focusing on christmas which is three months away, to a half months away between now and then there's going to be greater homelessness because... 0ver then there's going to be greater homelessness because... over the period of covid, landlords were told not to reject, evictions have started him. ithink not to reject, evictions have started him. i think 200,000 children will be in temporary combinations or have to go into care. food bank uses going out, poverty is going to increase and we are talking about turkeys. i find that quite remarkable. what would we do without turkey? but those poor people. do without turkey? but those poor --eole. , :, do without turkey? but those poor --eole. , . people. yes, we are covering the crisis of the _ people. yes, we are covering the crisis of the huge _ people. yes, we are covering the crisis of the huge pushes - people. yes, we are covering the crisis of the huge pushes that. people. yes, we are covering the i crisis of the huge pushes that many people are really worried about at the moment. mick, we are looking at really serious challenges here for the government. how much is brexit responsible for this? it the government. how much is brexit responsible for this?— responsible for this? it seems to be -la in: responsible for this? it seems to be playing some _ responsible for this? it seems to be playing some part — responsible for this? it seems to be playing some part no _ responsible for this? it seems to be playing some part no doubt. - responsible for this? it seems to be | playing some part no doubt. there's been _ playing some part no doubt. there's been claims — playing some part no doubt. there's been claims that it hasn't but i think— been claims that it hasn't but i think obviously there is going to be a realignment from where we were in the eu _ a realignment from where we were in the eu to _ a realignment from where we were in the eu to where we are now. obviously _ the eu to where we are now. obviously we've had this exacerbated by problems caused by the pandemic. in by problems caused by the pandemic. in the _ by problems caused by the pandemic. in the ft_ by problems caused by the pandemic. in the ft they're talking about a lot of— in the ft they're talking about a lot of workers from the eu who were here a _ lot of workers from the eu who were here a chilly— lot of workers from the eu who were here a chilly go home because of the pandemic— here a chilly go home because of the pandemic as well as the fact that theyiust — pandemic as well as the fact that theyjust needed to get out because of brexit _ theyjust needed to get out because of brexit. the other part of this is that the _ of brexit. the other part of this is that the government are now trying to say— that the government are now trying to say this — that the government are now trying to say this was part of it, this is the realignment and what we not want now is— the realignment and what we not want now is not— the realignment and what we not want now is not cheap labour, we don't need _ now is not cheap labour, we don't need to— now is not cheap labour, we don't need to rely— now is not cheap labour, we don't need to rely on cheap labour from the european union we want wages to id the european union we want wages to go up _ the european union we want wages to go up in _ the european union we want wages to go up in this— the european union we want wages to go up in this country and places where _ go up in this country and places where people are working in the poultry— where people are working in the poultry business. and that's why these _ poultry business. and that's why these 5,000, but not 5,500 emergency visas this— these 5,000, but not 5,500 emergency visas this year to cope with things is only— visas this year to cope with things is only a _ visas this year to cope with things is only a temporary thing. but they are now— is only a temporary thing. but they are now saying is that over the next few years _ are now saying is that over the next few years they want peoples wages to id up few years they want peoples wages to go up so _ few years they want peoples wages to go up so people in this country will want _ go up so people in this country will want to— go up so people in this country will want to work in these sectors. whether— want to work in these sectors. whether that happens is another matter — whether that happens is another matter. and with a where in the same position— matter. and with a where in the same position this _ matter. and with a where in the same position this time next year is another— position this time next year is another matter. if we are in this position— another matter. if we are in this position this time next year than people _ position this time next year than people will be pointing their fingers _ people will be pointing their fingers even more strongly at brexit — fingers even more strongly at brexit i_ fingers even more strongly at brexit. i think the government will have to _ brexit. i think the government will have to dry— brexit. i think the government will have to dry and put some pressure on those _ have to dry and put some pressure on those industries to get the wages up and make _ those industries to get the wages up and make them wet two worthwhile to do for— and make them wet two worthwhile to do for people. and make them wet two worthwhile to do for people-— do for people. we've heard some businesses _ do for people. we've heard some businesses save _ do for people. we've heard some businesses save another- do for people. we've heard some businesses save another pay - do for people. we've heard some - businesses save another pay workers more they still can't recruit them. this is not going to go away. one of the most... i mean, brainless rolls we have in this country is that we don't let asylum—seekers work. there are asylum—seekers who would give anything to do a job and earn a living. they hate living this humiliating life or whatever it is a handful of palms per week. why not allow them to work? some of them are highly trained, all of them are highly trained, all of them are highly eager. why are we wasting their potential? and secondly, they have been lots of poultry farmers interview on the bbc and other channels who say that this is an easy, you canjust step into this role. you have to be trained. and those trained workers have been lost because they are moving back into the eu zone. so we have to think more imaginatively. instead of being paranoid about asylum—seekers and punishing them and migrants we should be using their skills. but isn't there _ should be using their skills. but isn't there bound to be some disruption if you're trying to shift the economy? the cummings plant reportedly anticipated some disruption and isn't that what we are seeing? i disruption and isn't that what we are seeing?— are seeing? i don't think it was anticipated- — are seeing? i don't think it was anticipated. i— are seeing? i don't think it was anticipated. i think _ are seeing? i don't think it was anticipated. i think this - anticipated. i think this government, i don't know what this government, i don't know what this government thanks but i think there always seems to be caught by surprise even though things are inextricably moving in a certain direction. it's very interesting that these are not stupid people, very bright people are in cabinet and they don't seem to have any foresight or even hindsight sometimes. there putting in the army to build those nightingale hospitals much of which were never used. it's that kind of gesture politics, it's serving no one. we that kind of gesture politics, it's serving no one.— that kind of gesture politics, it's serving no one. we will leave that set of issues _ serving no one. we will leave that set of issues there _ serving no one. we will leave that set of issues there for _ serving no one. we will leave that set of issues there for now - serving no one. we will leave that set of issues there for now but. set of issues there for now but doubtless will come back to that over and over again in the coming days. the other really big story that grabbed everybody�*s attention is that the sarah everard case was that the guardian front page for tomorrow says that women face epidemic of indecent exposure. they've got some fairly staggering numbers on the story. yes. they've got some fairly staggering numbers on the story. yes, they've been doing — numbers on the story. yes, they've been doing some _ numbers on the story. yes, they've been doing some analysis - numbers on the story. yes, they've been doing some analysis of- numbers on the story. yes, they've been doing some analysis of the i been doing some analysis of the figures — been doing some analysis of the figures and it seems in the last year's — figures and it seems in the last year's there's been 10,000 cases where _ year's there's been 10,000 cases where women have said that they have been victims of indecent exposure in the street— been victims of indecent exposure in the street or wherever this has taken — the street or wherever this has taken place. it's one in ten women say that— taken place. it's one in ten women say that have had that happen to them _ say that have had that happen to them in — say that have had that happen to them in their lifetime. only around 600 suspects a chilly made it into court _ 600 suspects a chilly made it into court and — 600 suspects a chilly made it into court and the end. it's clear that it's not— court and the end. it's clear that it's not taking seriously. it's in plain— it's not taking seriously. it's in plain sight— it's not taking seriously. it's in plain sight for many years. there has been — plain sight for many years. there has been the tv comedyjoke about a flasher— has been the tv comedyjoke about a flasher and _ has been the tv comedyjoke about a flasher and eight which was in the 705, _ flasher and eight which was in the '70s, '80s— flasher and eight which was in the 705, '805 it flasher and eight which was in the '70s, '80s it used to be the joke. clearly— '70s, '80s it used to be the joke. clearly it's — '70s, '80s it used to be the joke. clearly it's something that just been _ clearly it's something that just been allowed to happen and i think the police — been allowed to happen and i think the police haven't taken it seriously, society has a ticketed seriously, — seriously, society has a ticketed seriously, unfortunately clearly we've _ seriously, unfortunately clearly we've got rain cousins the policeman that kidnapped and murdered sarah everard _ that kidnapped and murdered sarah everard - _ that kidnapped and murdered sarah everard — rain couzens. he exposed himself— everard — rain couzens. he exposed himself on— everard — rain couzens. he exposed himself on a — everard — rain couzens. he exposed himself on a number of occasions previously — himself on a number of occasions previously. his offending escalated to the _ previously. his offending escalated to the most horrific it could possibly— to the most horrific it could possibly be. that's obviously the worry— possibly be. that's obviously the worry with — possibly be. that's obviously the worry with other people who do this but it— worry with other people who do this but it should be stopped as soon as it happens— but it should be stopped as soon as it happens in that way. but the cases— it happens in that way. but the cases that _ it happens in that way. but the cases that the police aren't appearing to take this seriously. the criminaljustice system isn't working — the criminaljustice system isn't working properly. if you have 10,000 of these _ working properly. if you have 10,000 of these happening in only 600 people — of these happening in only 600 people going to court. you got the victims _ people going to court. you got the victims commission in the guardian saying _ victims commission in the guardian saying it's — victims commission in the guardian saying it's an epidemic. it's an epidemic— saying it's an epidemic. it's an epidemic that'sjust been saying it's an epidemic. it's an epidemic that's just been there all the time, — epidemic that's just been there all the time, it seems and we just turned — the time, it seems and we just turned by— the time, it seems and we just turned by eye to it. now we've got the prime — turned by eye to it. now we've got the prime minister coming out tonight— the prime minister coming out tonight talking about it, priti patel— tonight talking about it, priti patel talking about it saying the police _ patel talking about it saying the police must take this seriously. but will we _ police must take this seriously. but will we see — police must take this seriously. but will we see it being taken seriously? it has to be aroused there's— seriously? it has to be aroused there's going to be more lives lost. conservatives have been in government for over a decade is it theirfall? is that government for over a decade is it their fall? is that all parties not taking this seriously enough because this goes back decades does in a? i don't think you can just blame this goes back decades does in a? i don't think you canjust blame the don't think you can just blame the conservative government. this is a widespread problem on the left, on the right, in every institution. when ijust think the right, in every institution. when i just think about this, why are we seeing, why didn't we see a huge demonstration by good then after the death of sarah everard? surely it must really upset them that their gender is guilty of two of all others. why don't women/? to be ever asked themselves these questions? and why can't then say this is enough and for the sake of daughters and mothers and sisters we will work with the women on this. that would be fantastic, when nick? an interesting thought, certainly. maybe you're going to lead that movement, get the then out on the street to protest was up just want to bring in the times front page as mick mentioned that the prime minister rebukes police over treatment of women. he is standing by president dick the commissioner. what is your view on that? i by president dick the commissioner. what is your view on that?— what is your view on that? i think cressida dick _ what is your view on that? i think cressida dick should _ what is your view on that? i think cressida dick should go. - what is your view on that? i think cressida dick should go. she - what is your view on that? i think i cressida dick should go. she should have gone when her time came up for reasons i do not fathom her so we naturally extend for two years. and priti patel says in her interview that she shapes the met up properly. and a chilly tackles the issues was watching today when she made a statement and she seemed genuinely move but she refused to answer questions from the media after what's just happened as the head of the mat she refused to engage with questions. that doesn't seem to me leadership at all. 0k. questions. that doesn't seem to me leadership at all.— leadership at all. 0k. again this auestion leadership at all. 0k. again this question is _ leadership at all. 0k. again this question is not _ leadership at all. 0k. again this question is not going _ leadership at all. 0k. again this question is not going to - leadership at all. 0k. again this question is not going to go - leadership at all. 0k. again this. question is not going to go away. let's move onto something that is positive that's emerged today for top the first antiviral drug to treat covid. it looks as though according to trials that it could have a housing effect on the risk of death and hospitalisation. that would be an incredible news. brilliant news. it could be in this country— brilliant news. it could be in this country in — brilliant news. it could be in this country in a _ brilliant news. it could be in this country in a few months. at the moment— country in a few months. at the moment they're saying they're going to order— moment they're saying they're going to order about 10,000,000 of them in america _ to order about 10,000,000 of them in america. there were these trials going _ america. there were these trials going on— america. there were these trials going on in— america. there were these trials going on in the trials were so positive — going on in the trials were so positive that they had to be stopped early because some of the people were _ early because some of the people were getting the placebo and some, the very— were getting the placebo and some, the very small fraction who are getting — the very small fraction who are getting the placebo could have benefited instead from this great dru- benefited instead from this great drug that once you have been infected — drug that once you have been infected and cut your chance of going _ infected and cut your chance of going into _ infected and cut your chance of going into the hospital by half, cut your risk— going into the hospital by half, cut your risk of— going into the hospital by half, cut your risk of death by half. the key of the _ your risk of death by half. the key of the people that were given it also at — of the people that were given it also at risk sectors as well first of its _ also at risk sectors as well first of its people over 60, people who were _ of its people over 60, people who were obese, all these factors that have been— were obese, all these factors that have been said to exacerbate your chance _ have been said to exacerbate your chance of— have been said to exacerbate your chance of serious illness or death from _ chance of serious illness or death from covid — chance of serious illness or death from covid. it does sound it is the wonder— from covid. it does sound it is the wonder drug we've been waiting for. and this _ wonder drug we've been waiting for. and this with the vaccines as well, it does— and this with the vaccines as well, it does look— and this with the vaccines as well, it does look as though once we get through the next few months, things have stabilised, they're not exactly where _ have stabilised, they're not exactly where you — have stabilised, they're not exactly where you want them to be but they stabilise _ where you want them to be but they stabilise a _ where you want them to be but they stabilise a little. i think once we have _ stabilise a little. i think once we have more — stabilise a little. i think once we have more of these things and we get the pills— have more of these things and we get the pills every year and we canjust start treating it as just like flu. ithink— start treating it as just like flu. i think the _ start treating it as just like flu. i think the end is in sight where we have drugs— i think the end is in sight where we have drugs like that. to the scientists who are working behind the scenes trying to get us all back to normal — the scenes trying to get us all back to normal. not the scenes trying to get us all back to normal. :, , :, :, to normal. not sure how long if it becomes just _ to normal. not sure how long if it becomes just like _ to normal. not sure how long if it becomes just like flu _ to normal. not sure how long if it becomesjust like flu given - to normal. not sure how long if itj becomesjust like flu given all the becomes just like flu given all the potential mutations jasmine, things better of him but not many parts of the world. but this pill undoubtedly good news, potentially. brute the world. but this pill undoubtedly good news, potentially.— good news, potentially. we should end on something _ good news, potentially. we should end on something positive - good news, potentially. we should| end on something positive because it's been a really difficult 2 or 3 days, has in it? we should also share all of this for the rest of the world because this is a global plague. if wejust the world because this is a global plague. if we just help ourselves we won't stop it coming into the country and also it seems to me really important that it become part of the global solution notjust do it for ourselves, i guess. that of the global solution not 'ust do it for ourselves, i guess._ of the global solution not 'ust do it for ourselves, i guess. that is a lea we it for ourselves, i guess. that is a plea we keep _ it for ourselves, i guess. that is a plea we keep hearing. _ it for ourselves, i guess. that is a plea we keep hearing. i'll- it for ourselves, i guess. that is a plea we keep hearing. i'll end - plea we keep hearing. i'll end with the telegraph and child care because apparently being driven down. jasmine, let me come to you first. apparently there are some rolls that you need to have one adult for every five children, i think. and the easing of those rolls so that more people can afford childcare. presumably the cost will go down. because childcare is horrendously expensive in this country. and a lot of lower middle class to poor families it's the grannies who are looking after the children. and doing their best to help out young families. i think anything that makes childcare more affordable is a good thing. i5 makes childcare more affordable is a good thing. is it makes childcare more affordable is a aood thin. , makes childcare more affordable is a uuoodthin. , » makes childcare more affordable is a good thing-_ it's - good thing. is it safe, mick? it's interesting- _ good thing. is it safe, mick? it's interesting. if _ good thing. is it safe, mick? it's interesting. if you _ good thing. is it safe, mick? it's interesting. if you got _ good thing. is it safe, mick? it's interesting. if you got child - interesting. if you got child minders— interesting. if you got child minders having to look after more kids are _ minders having to look after more kids are being able to look at the markets — kids are being able to look at the markets then what they're saying is what is _ markets then what they're saying is what is a _ markets then what they're saying is what is a safety issue, clearly of them _ what is a safety issue, clearly of them being able to keep an eye on more _ them being able to keep an eye on more kids— them being able to keep an eye on more kids at once time. doesn't a chilly— more kids at once time. doesn't a chilly mention anything about the fact that — chilly mention anything about the fact that if you are expecting people — fact that if you are expecting people to look after more kids than they are _ people to look after more kids than they are probably can expect more money, _ they are probably can expect more money are — they are probably can expect more money, are they? this is part that you are _ money, are they? this is part that you are going to have to pay for more _ you are going to have to pay for more food — you are going to have to pay for more food for these kids. i'm not entirely— more food for these kids. i'm not entirely sure how this brings out the cost — entirely sure how this brings out the cost at — entirely sure how this brings out the cost at all. they've looked at half of _ the cost at all. they've looked at half of this — the cost at all. they've looked at half of this but i don't think they've _ half of this but i don't think they've looked at the other bit of it what _ they've looked at the other bit of it what you've got to a chilly feed the kids— it what you've got to a chilly feed the kids and make people work a bit harder _ the kids and make people work a bit harder. :, , :, , the kids and make people work a bit harder. . , ., , the kids and make people work a bit harder. . , . , harder. that is a very good point. childcare obviously _ harder. that is a very good point. childcare obviously one _ harder. that is a very good point. childcare obviously one of- harder. that is a very good point. childcare obviously one of the - childcare obviously one of the biggest challenges for working parents, we know that. especially during covid when we've all had multiple challenges looking after our children's in these extra narrow highs. let's hope that pill works. thank you very much indeed for taking us through all of those stories i'm glad we found a little bit of good news along the way. great to see you both as ever. thanks again. thanks again. that's it for the papers tonight. from us all. goodbye. st helens have booked their place at next saturday's super league grand final after a 36 eight win over leeds. the home side were dominant throughout and got things off to the best possible start with this brilliant try from regan grace. saints would go on to score four more before grace rounded of the scoring for his second the game. they're are looking to win the competition for the third year in a row and go level with leeds for the most winds in history with eight. bristol have their first win of rugby union's new premiership season beating bath 25 20 at ashton gate. after the dominant side for the most of the game. with the combination of the kicking of callum sheedy and this drive season beating bath 25 20 at ashton gate. still managed to take the drop. britain's cameron norrie has beaten canada's denis shapovalov for the second time this year to reach the semifinals of the san diego open. norrie took the first set 6 3, winning four games in a row at the end of the set and he grew stronger as the match wore on against the fourth seed, who he also be at queen's this year. he won the second set six one. it means ease reached the sixth atp semifinal in 2021 which is as many as he'd ever reached in previous years. championship leaders west bromwich albion have been beaten by stoke city nick powell scored the only goal of the night late on shortly after his side had missed a penalty to break the deadlock. the win sends stoke up to third in the table, just one point off west brom. the czech foreign affairs minister says he will summon the british ambassador after allegations that the rangers player glen kamara was subjected to booing and jeering in prague last night. rangers have contacted uefa after kamara was targetted during their europa league defeat by sparta prague, just months after he was racially abused by a slavia prague player. the game was initially supposed to be played behind closed doors, after sparta supporters had racially abused a monaco player in an earlier match, but it was later decided to allow ten thousand schoolchildren to attend the game. sparta have tonight the allegations saying: " it is absolutely unbelievable that after a match we have to watch innocent children being attacked and face unfounded accusations of racism." the czech foreign affairs minister jakub kul hanek waded into the argument by tweeting... however, marvin bartley, the livingstone captain and the scottish fa's equality advisor thinks these attitudes won't change until there's a deterrant. if there is no consequences for peoples actions then nothing will change. if you people can get away with doing the sorts of things they wisely can a change? that has to be a deterrent for people out there and that's not enough. they did, kamara was booed and he should've been an empty stadium. why let 10,000 people allowed in the weather was children or adults because my edges shows that uefa don't care. forfar too long this is been going on and they don't care and they let fans into the stadium went behind closed doors, what kind of messages that sending out? premier league players who are fully vaccinated will be allowed to travel to countries on the uk's red list during the international break and be allowed to train or play after quarantine on return, it's been announced by the uk government. tottenham's giovanni lo celso was one of four england based argentine players who played in a match against brazil last month, which was stopped by brazilian health officials, saying they had to quarantine. for this international break, english based players including brazilians roberto firmino and manchester city's gabrieljesus, will be allowed to travel but will have to quarantine in "bespoke facilities" for ten days when they get back to the uk. liverpool managerjurgen klopp is not impressed. that would mean for the players after the national break that they go for a ten to 12 days with the national teens and then they go another ten days away from theirfamilies into quarantine. that's 22 days and two weeks later there is a next international break, the next international duty. so it doesn't sound to me a real solution. chelsea manager thomas tuchel has confirmed that defender reece james will not be joining the england squad for matches against andorra and hungary this month, because he's not back to full training yet. james was named in gareth southgate's 23 man squad yesterday, despite coming off injured in the defeat against manchester city last week and not featuring in the trip tojuventus in midweek. he's currently only training in the pool and will miss tomorrow's game with southampton. tuchel thinks there's been a misunderstanding unless james is playing for a different england team. when i saw it i thought that maybe he goes with the water polo team for england because right now he trains in the pool. so i was a bit surprised but i understood that he was selected for the football team so this will not happen. because he is training in the pool right now. my understanding, my last information is that he will not go can only be a misunderstanding, british boxerjoejoyce says he "trusts" he will be awarded an olympic gold medal after an independent investigation found officials manipulated the outcome of matches at rio 2016. joyce lost his super heavyweight final to france's tony yoka and that was one of 11 "suspicious" bouts. the head of the investigation, professor richard mclaren, said a system for the manipulation of fights was in place. the sport's world governing body the aiba said it noted the report with "concern". joyce has released a statement, saying he was sad to see corruption in the sport he loves and he'll be considering the finding with his legal team. that's all the sport for now. saturday is not looking great. it's going to be one of those grey, wet, windy, autumnal days, and many of us will probably choose to stay indoors. the good news is sunday is looking a lot better. now, in the early hours, we are expecting rain to reach western parts of the uk, so that means that the east and central areas will be clear. and in fact, there will be some sunshine early in the morning, just enough time to nip out and do a bit of early morning shopping. but come the afternoon, it is looking like widespread rain across the uk, strong winds as well, with the worst of the weather probably further south and the southeast. and there will be gale force winds around coasts as well. further towards the northwest, for example in northern ireland, it's going to be more of a mixed bag, sunshine and showers. and then eventually, that widespread rain will clear into the north sea come the evening hours. and then sunday is looking better for the marathon runners. this is bbc news. i'm nancy kacungira with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. optimism from health experts as a pill developed to treat severe coronavirus reports positive trial results. it could halve the chances of dying or being admitted to hospital. after the murder of sarah everard by a serving police officer, london's metropolitan police tries to regain the public�*s trust. two new streams of lava pose a further threat of destruction, as the la palma volcano forces thousands more to flee. nobody knows how much more is going to flow into the sea. there is no sign of this ending any time soon. the countdown continues. just hours to go until the culmination of europe's first mission to mercury. and it's back.

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