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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me arejo kiernan, former welsh Labour Adviser and broadcaster, and mo hussein, former conservative adviser and political commentator. The Uks Energy Crisis is the lead for the I The Paper suggests taxpayers will be footing the bill for Energy Firms going bust, as the government prepares loans to support the industry. The Price Cap must go the warning from Energy Companies on the front of the telegraph, who say they need to raise bills to meet the rise in wholesale Gas Prices. That story also top for the ft, with reassurance from the Business Secretary that the uks lights will not be going out as a result of the crisis. The paper also picks up on news that the us will relax Travel Rules for those travelling from the uk and the eu from november. Despite those reassurances from the Business Secretary, The Guardian tells us to prepare for a Winter Of Discontent and carries a warning from former Cabinet Minister Damian Green about a very, very, diffcult winter ahead. The metro pays tribute to the mother and three children whose bodies were found at a house in derbyshire. A 31 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder. Plenty to talk about in the papers, starting off with the financial times, which, as you might imagine, gets stuck straight in to the energy story. The front page. Kwasi kwarteng insists Uk Lights not going out, as Gas Crisis intensifies. Jo kiernan, a return to a three Day Week . Kiernan, a return to a threeDay Week . � ,. , � week . Its really interesting. A. Rim week . Its really interesting. A rim Set Week . Its really interesting. A grim set of week . Its really interesting. A grim set of Headlines Week . Its really interesting. A grim set of headlines this week . Its really interesting. A grim set of headlines this evening. I was struck by how the Business Secretary was determined to quash, as he calls, this alarmist talk, but the reality is that there are millions of people really worried about what this winter is going to bring. Good heavens, weve had a another 18 months, with covid and the restrictions and, just when you think you might be finding a way out of that, we have got a possible food Price Rise, we have energy Price Rises and actually no really clear signal of how the government is going to help us get out of this problem. A 10 rise in national insurance for millions of people, cuts to universal credit, and i think there will be lots of people worrying about how they are going to put food on the table, keep their houses warm and have any kind of comfortable winter. Ma houses warm and have any kind of comfortable winter. Comfortable winter. Mo hussein, former conservative comfortable winter. Mo hussein, former conservative adviser, comfortable winter. Mo hussein, former conservative adviser, the | former conservative adviser, the first paragraph he says Kwasi Kwarteng says there is no question of the lights going out. Do you believe him . I of the lights going out. Do you believe him . Of the lights going out. Do you believe him . ,. , ~ believe him . I do stop i worked in the energy believe him . I do stop i worked in the energy and believe him . I do stop i worked in the Energy And Department believe him . I do stop i worked in the Energy And Department of the Energy And Department of climate change. The Energy And Department of climate change, and the only thing you nearly change, and the only thing you nearly need to get right is ensuring continuity nearly need to get right is ensuring continuity of supply, and the Majority Continuity of supply, and the majority of our supply comes from domestic majority of our supply comes from domestic sources or from friendly countries, domestic sources or from friendly countries, like norway, and we have quadrupled countries, like norway, and we have quadrupled our renewables, sol think quadrupled our renewables, sol think the quadrupled our renewables, sol think the security of supply will be there think the security of supply will be there. I think the question really is the there. I think the question really is the price there. I think the question really is the price of this and what the costs is the price of this and what the costs will is the price of this and what the costs will be, and the real debate we are costs will be, and the real debate we are going to see play out will be on the we are going to see play out will be on the side we are going to see play out will be on the side of the consumers, which the government should be on, or the energy the government should be on, or the Energy Companies, who are calling for various Energy Companies, who are calling for various kinds of Help And Bailout for various kinds of Help And Bailout because of the energy Price Cap bailout because of the Energy Price can that bailout because of the energy Price Cap that the government has put in. Ithink cap that the government has put in. I think there cap that the government has put in. I think there are measures that the regulator i think there are measures that the regulator and the government can take to regulator and the government can take to ensure security of supply, but is take to ensure security of supply, but is it take to ensure security of supply, but is it affordable . That is the question but is it affordable . That is the question that will be worrying many families and businesses. That brings us to our next families and businesses. That brings us to our next paper, families and businesses. That brings us to our next paper, but families and businesses. That brings us to our next paper, but we families and businesses. That brings us to our next paper, but we should| us to our next paper, but we should say that we dont ask anyones age, so i am not going to ask either of you if you remember the three Day Week in the 1970s but, when i was in a different country, i was South America Chris Brunt in chile once, and at 9pm, the lights will go out, and at 9pm, the lights will go out, and you had to get your candle is ready. It a memorable time and i think it reminds us just how important energy is, something we would always forget. The Daily Telegraph leads us to mo husseins Point about prices. Price cap must 90, Point about prices. Price cap must go, say Energy Companies. Firms insist restriction has to be abolished, as Gas Price hits record high, but Kwasi Kwarteng went back down. ,. ,. , down. Quite right too. The government down. Quite right too. The government had down. Quite right too. The government had to down. Quite right too. The government had to stand i down. Quite right too. The i government had to stand firm down. Quite right too. The government had to stand firm on this. It was put in for a very good reason. People will be facing huge Household Rises in bills. To take that Comfort Blanket away is just going to plunge millions more people into poverty, so i am really pleased to see that he took such a firm line today. He needs to carry on with that. I am not sure what the solution is, whether it is state backed loans, whether it is taking a stake in some of the Energy Companies, but the one thing the government absolutely cant do is back down on that Point. Ls government absolutely cant do is back down on that Point. Government absolutely cant do is back down on that Point. Is we look the detail, said back down on that Point. Is we look the detail, said analysts back down on that Point. Is we look the detail, said analysts have the detail, said analysts have warned that, of the 55 Energy Companies currently operating, fewer than ten may survive by the end of the year. In normal times, i think all 35 sent me letters every few days suggesting i become a client, but now we are in new waters, looking at 55 potentially reducing to ten. ,. , ~ looking at 55 potentially reducing to ten. ,. ,. , to ten. Yes, we are. I think that would be to ten. Yes, we are. I think that would be a to ten. Yes, we are. I think that would be a shame, to ten. Yes, we are. I think that would be a shame, because to ten. Yes, we are. I think that i would be a shame, because actual competition is really important in the sector~ competition is really important in the sector. When i was in the role, we were the sector. When i was in the role, we were really pushing for new entrants we were really pushing for new entrants to come in and challenge the Power Entrants to come in and challenge the power of the big six, lets say. The fact the power of the big six, lets say. The fact that they had so many customers and there wasnt really much customers and there wasnt really much choice for people, there wasnt a different much choice for people, there wasnt a different kind of energy they could a different kind of energy they could get a different Price Sol think could get a different Price Sol think the could get a different Price Sol think the competition has certainly been a think the competition has certainly been a good thing. I also think this really been a good thing. I also think this really Points to the various options the government is looking at. There is a lot the government is looking at. There is a lot of the government is looking at. There is a lot of detail in what the government can do. This really Points government can do. This really Points to government can do. This really Points to the fact that i think, during Points to the fact that i think, during the pandemic, the government was very during the pandemic, the government was very activist and interventionist in the economy, and rightly so interventionist in the economy, and rightly so. We sought the furlough scheme, rightly so. We sought the furlough scheme, we saw loans for businesses around scheme, we saw loans for businesses around covid, and this is now something that the Energy Companies would something that the Energy Companies would say something that the Energy Companies would say is beyond their power to control, would say is beyond their power to control, therefore the state should Step In control, therefore the state should Step In. Because we have experienced this in Step In. Because we have experienced this in the Step In. Because we have experienced this in the pandemic, is interesting to see this in the pandemic, is interesting to see that this in the pandemic, is interesting to see that this argument is being made to see that this argument is being made again, i think, from the governments perspective, it almost wants governments perspective, it almost wants to governments perspective, it almost wants to move on from the pandemic and say, wants to move on from the pandemic and say, it wants to move on from the pandemic and say, it was an extra grid time, that is and say, it was an extra grid time, that is not and say, it was an extra grid time, that is not how this wants to operate, that is not how this wants to operate, and that is why i think you will see operate, and that is why i think you will see this operate, and that is why i think you will see this ongoing tension in the days to will see this ongoing tension in the days to come over what role the government should play in this, and should government should play in this, and should it government should play in this, and should it support the bigger companies to take on the customers of the companies to take on the customers of the Failing Companies, or should it help of the Failing Companies, or should it help the of the Failing Companies, or should it help the Failing Companies to succeed . It help the Failing Companies to succeed . I think itll be interesting see how that plays out. A permanent activist government, jo . Well, you know, what i would like to see, and Kwasi Kwarteng. A Statement Today was one thing, but i would also like to see the Prime Minister just taking this seriously and facing the Issue Head on and providing some kind of assurance that he understands the gravity of the situation and has a plan in place with his cabinet colleagues to deal with it. I dont think that talking about leaders of business worldwide and that strange energy he made today in New York about frozen pipes and problems that happen when the Deep Freeze starts to thaw, is helping anyone. People want to know helping anyone. People want to know he is take it seriously and he has a plan. A friend reminded me today that there are 96 days left until christmas, Heaven Help Us the conditions people are going to go through in the next few months, worrying about whether they will be able to get their Loved Ones around able to get their Loved Ones around a table in a house that is properly warm, with food on the table, before we talk about food shortages. We Need Boris to face it head on. I new Need Boris to face it head on. I now feel every day Need Boris to face it head on. I now feel every Day L Need Boris to face it head on. I now feel every day i need Need Boris to face it head on. I now feel every day i need to Need Boris to face it head on. I now feel every day i need to give Need Boris to face it head on. I now feel every day i need to give a feel every day i need to give a countdown to christmas on the same subject of energy, the uk Energy Prices set to drive up the cost of living. Mo hussein, lets look at the food industry. It says the industry is in turmoil over the shortage of carbon dioxide, Emergency Meetings with ministers, meat, vegetables, fizzy drinks, all Injeopardy. Meat, vegetables, fizzy drinks, all Injeopardy in jeopardy. This is already having effects around in jeopardy. This is already having effects around different in jeopardy. This is already having effects around different sectors, i effects around different sectors, food, effects around different sectors, food, Steel Production and the other one we food, Steel Production and the other one we mentioned as well. I think this speaks one we mentioned as well. I think this speaks to the scale of the issue this speaks to the scale of the issue that needs to be gripped. The Crisis Issue that needs to be gripped. The crisis we issue that needs to be gripped. The crisis we are issue that needs to be gripped. The crisis we are seeing in terms of global Price Rise for gas makes a lot of global Price Rise for gas makes a lot of other industries struggle to produce lot of other industries struggle to produce the things they need, sol think produce the things they need, sol think it produce the things they need, sol think it is produce the things they need, sol think it is becoming very quickly a very big think it is becoming very quickly a very big political problem for the government, and the i also has some detail government, and the i also has some detail around the impact it could have detail around the impact it could have on detail around the impact it could have on boosterjabs and vaccines, which have on boosterjabs and vaccines, which is have on boosterjabs and vaccines, which is again very worrying. A solution which is again very worrying. A solution needs to be found, and it needs solution needs to be found, and it needs to solution needs to be found, and it needs to be found quickly, that it has to needs to be found quickly, that it has to he needs to be found quickly, that it has to he a needs to be found quickly, that it has to be a long term, sustainable solution has to be a long term, sustainable solution as well. It has to get us through solution as well. It has to get us through the winter but also put in place through the winter but also put in place some way of avoiding this kind of Thing Place some way of avoiding this kind of thing happening again and people panicking of thing happening again and people panicking and having to come up with some panicking and having to come up with some very panicking and having to come up with some very quick solutions. | panicking and having to come up with some very quick solutions. Some very quick solutions. I think, if i was some very quick solutions. I think, if i was to some very quick solutions. I think, if i was to survey some very quick solutions. I think, if i was to survey people, some very quick solutions. I think, if i was to survey people, id some very quick solutions. I think, if i was to survey people, id say i if i was to survey people, id say they might be to live without fizzy drinks for a few months, but when you need to raise about the roll out of covid boosters and teenage jabs which could be by worsening co2 shortages, that is much more serious. It shortages, that is much more serious. ,. , serious. It is much more serious. Just the knockon serious. It is much more serious. Just the Knockon Effect serious. It is much more serious. Just the Knockon Effect on serious. It is much more serious. Just the Knockon Effect on all. Just the Knock On Effect on all sorts of industries. We are slowly coming out of the pandemic, to be faced with talk of a three Day Week, which might be alarmist, if this were to go on for some time, it might be something which started to be talked about in more realistic ways. Ijust think be talked about in more realistic ways. I just think that, be talked about in more realistic ways. Ijust think that, when people are faced with those massive shortages in shops, when people whose children are now eligible for the Jab Roll out that we are going to see throughout our schools, etc, when those individuals are affected, peoples patients will rapidly run out, i think. Peoples patients will rapidly run out, ithink. Lode peoples patients will rapidly run out. I think peoples patients will rapidly run out, ithink. ~. , , out, i think. We have talked plenty about potential out, i think. We have talked plenty about potential shortages out, i think. We have talked plenty about potential shortages and out, i think. We have talked plenty. About potential shortages and energy Price Rises and a difficult winter. Its enough to make anyone want to think they want to get on a plane from november we can do so. Mo hussein, lets look at the Daily Telegraph, the delighted as us lifts ban on travellers from britain. Have you booked your ticket to disneyland . You booked your ticket to disneyland . You booked your ticket to disne land . ,. ,. ,. , you booked your ticket to disne land . ,. ,. ,. ,. Disneyland . No, and that was a nice seuue. Disneyland . No, and that was a nice segue the disneyland . No, and that was a nice segue. The Announcement Disneyland . No, and that was a nice segue. The Announcement Today Disneyland . No, and that was a nice i segue. The Announcement Today about fully vaccinated britons being able To Visit fully vaccinated britons being able To Visit will be a welcome relief, i think. To visit will be a welcome relief, i think. To To Visit will be a welcome relief, i think, to many people who have family think, to many people who have Family In think, to many people who have Family In the states and businesses as Well Family in the states and businesses as well who need to get on with their as well who need to get on with their work as well who need to get on with their work. The devil is or was in their work. The devil is or was in the detail their work. The devil is or was in the detail with these things. There is some the detail with these things. There is some detail in here, talking about is some detail in here, talking about a is some detail in here, talking about a question over whether unvaccinated children will be able to attend unvaccinated children will be able to attend with their parents, which could to attend with their parents, which could put to attend with their parents, which could put a to attend with their parents, which could put a stop to the idea of family could put a stop to the idea of family holidays, and there is a Question Family holidays, and there is a question around astrazeneca, which is so widely question around astrazeneca, which is so widely used in the uk as a lab. Is so widely used in the uk as a lab. Being is so widely used in the uk as a jab, being recognised by The American authorities as well. It looks american authorities as well. It looks and american authorities as well. It looks and feels like good news, and ood looks and feels like good news, and good News Looks and feels like good news, and good news is something we will definitely want and need but, as ever, definitely want and need but, as ever. The definitely want and need but, as ever, the details matter, because there ever, the details matter, because there will ever, the details matter, because there will still be, i think, some people there will still be, i think, some people who wont benefit from this and will people who wont benefit from this and will be quite disapPointed. Our and will be quite disapPointed. Stop i know many people who are desperate to see family and work, its important, but for those people who havent seen their families for the best part of two years, they want that detail, and it would be pretty galling if Mum And Dad could set off on a plane to see family but children couldntjoin them on that journey. Details are needed. Who knows, we might see some when boris meets president biden, hopefully that will come and give some reassurance to people over the next couple of days, i hope. In reassurance to people over the next couple of days, i hope. Couple of days, i hope. In The Guardian. Couple of days, i hope. In The Guardian, the couple of days, i hope. In The Guardian, the penultimate i couple of days, i hope. In The Guardian, the penultimate newspaper, it does a different story. Most of the papers are simply doing travel and energy. On the bottom left of the front page, call for new deal to help children across england. Yes. Help children across england. Yes, this is a Report Help children across england. Yes, this is a report from help children across england. Yes, this is a report from the help children across england. Yes, this is a report from the Childrens Commissioner for england, which talks commissioner for england, which talks about a package for schools, what talks about a package for schools, what it talks about a package for schools, what it should look like, and the impact what it should look like, and the impact the what it should look like, and the impact the pandemic has had on the Life Chances and Mental Health and various Life Chances and Mental Health and various other aspects of young peoples various other aspects of young peoples lives across the country. My slight peoples lives across the country. My slight hesitation with this is i am not my slight hesitation with this is i am not sure it is really telling the government and wider society much that is government and wider society much that is new government and wider society much that is new for is that we there are problems that is new for is that we there are problems. We have an Education Tsar who told problems. We have an Education Tsar who told the government at a certain amount who told the government at a certain amount of who told the government at a certain amount of money was needed. That Amount Amount of money was needed. That amount of amount of money was needed. That amount of money was needed. That amount of money was needed. That amount of money was not really met, and this amount of money was not really met, and this just amount of money was not really met, and thisjust Talks Amount of money was not really met, and this just talks about the greatest investment possible. Its really greatest investment possible. Its really not greatest investment possible. Its really not clear what that actually means really not clear what that actually means. Whilst it is highlighting some means. Whilst it is highlighting some very important issues, i think the question as to really be about outcomes the question as to really be about outcomes and delivery and what will be taken outcomes and delivery and what will be taken forward from this report, in terms be taken forward from this report, in terms of be taken forward from this report, in terms of a Catch Up and improving the lives in terms of a Catch Up and improving the lives now and the Life Chances going the lives now and the Life Chances going forward for these children. What do going forward for these children. What do you make of that, jo

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