Transcripts For BBCNEWS The Papers 20240709

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are the Cagney And Lacey of late night tv, the Lennon And Mccartney of Newspaper Reviewing whose silken words will wrap you in a ball of information, that will make you the envy of all your friends the broadcaster henry bonsu, and the former trade minister, Lord Digbyjones. Gentlemen, it is and it is pleasure 0h, clive its gentlemen, it is and it is pleasure 0h, clive 3 ~ � 0h, clive its like weve never been away 0h, clive its like weve never been away. Whats 0h, clive its like weve never been away. Whats this 0h, clive its like weve never| been away. Whats this about . 0h, clive its like weve never. Been away. Whats this about . I didnt aet been away. Whats this about . I didnt get the been away. Whats this about . I didnt get the memo, been away. Whats this about . I didnt get the memo, chaps been away. Whats this about . 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I know both of you have been desperate to know whos been wearing what at the met gala tonight. Havent you both . I know it laughter was worried you would asked me about that. More on that later. Lets Take A Look at tomorrows front pages. A covid winter warner, reads the metro as the Prime Minister announces what the paper describes as a � light touch� Plan A and a � tougher� Plan B to tackle coronavirus. The daily Mails Editorial says borisjohnson� s Plan B has paved the way for compulsory masks, Vaccine Passports and Working From Home could be imposed. The I Paper also has a Plan C a potential fourth national lockdown and more harmful economic and social restrictions. The Financial Times reports that plans for checks on Eu Goods entering the uk have been delayed as the government tries to ease problems with the Supply Chain after brexit. And the guardians lead Story Hospitals face up to 7,000 covid admissions a day unless a basket of measures are in place. A covid winter warner, mrjones. Pm reveals light Touch Plan a and tougher Plan B. Has he got the Balance Right . I Touch Plan a and tougher Plan B. Has he got the Balance Right . He got the Balance Right . I think at the moment, subject he got the Balance Right . I think at the moment, subject to he got the Balance Right . I think at the moment, subject to one he got the Balance Right . I think at the moment, subject to one thing, the moment, subject to one thing, the metro the moment, subject to one thing, the metro talking about this winter warner, the metro talking about this winter warner, in the metro talking about this winter warner, in other words, the metro talking about this winter warner, in otherwords, im going the metro talking about this winter warner, in other words, im going to have warner, in other words, im going to have to warner, in other words, im going to have to do more. Plan b includes compulsory have to do more. Plan b includes compulsory masks. Public transport. But i dont compulsory masks. Public transport. But i dont want to do that, heres the warning. Plan letter a is carry on as the warning. Plan letter a is carry on as we the warning. Plan letter a is carry on as we are, but just the warning. Plan letter a is carry on as we are, butjust be incredibly careful on as we are, butjust be incredibly careful and on as we are, butjust be incredibly careful and remember what this was all about careful and remember what this was all about always. This was about making all about always. This was about making sure the nhs could cope. There making sure the nhs could cope. There is making sure the nhs could cope. There is a making sure the nhs could cope. There is a warning and other papers that this there is a warning and other papers that this could get to levels. Its already at levels that were worse its already at levels that were worse than last year. September was quite low worse than last year. September was quite low. But its already up to levels quite low. But its already up to levels past there, and it could be getting even more serious,. Every media getting even more serious,. Every Media Outlet fits possesses about cases Media Outlet fits possesses about cases Media Outlet fits possesses about cases. Obsesses. Its hospitalisations that lead to the Problem Hospitalisations that lead to the problem with the government trying to Deal Problem with the government trying to deal with this when its already released to deal with this when its already released everything, doesnt want to id released everything, doesnt want to go back released everything, doesnt want to go back to released everything, doesnt want to go back to the restrictions, doesnt want go back to the restrictions, doesnt want to go back to the restrictions, doesnt want to go go back to the restrictions, doesnt want to go back to the dark days of hurting want to go back to the dark days of hurting so want to go back to the dark days of hurting so many careers and businesses. But that is when it will happen businesses. But that is when it will happen. Thats why the use of the word happen. Thats why the use of the word warner, its a very good word to use word warner, its a very good word to Use A word warner, its a very good word to Use A. ,. , word warner, its a very good word tousea. ,. , word warner, its a very good word tousea. ,. , , to Use A. Henry, Lord Digby jones sa s the to Use A. Henry, Lord Digby jones says the government to Use A. Henry, Lord Digby jones says the government is to Use A. Henry, Lord Digby jones says the government is saying to Use A. Henry, Lord Digby jones says the government is saying to | to Use A. Henry, Lord Digby jones i says the government is saying to the public to just be careful. We dont want to go back to a lockdown or all the mental health problems, so why not mandate masks now . Bearing in mind that the Hospital Admissions are higher now than they were this time last year. Are higher now than they were this time last year time last year. Youre right, four times higher than time last year. Youre right, four times higher than what time last year. Youre right, four times higher than what they time last year. Youre right, four| times higher than what they were time last year. Youre right, four i times higher than what they were a year ago. Times higher than what they were a yearago. Five times higher than what they were a year ago. Five times the number of deaths that we had a year ago as well. This was a really stark figure for the Prime Minister. 5 Million eligible people, all over 16, still not vaccinated. Just think about that. If only i of them suffer a pretty serious illness and possible death, thats 50,000 people. Thats truly shocking. I think most of us, because the figures are down in the hundreds usually, still a lot of people and one death is one too many. People die of all kinds of things every day. But its just to warn people that actually, this is not over, and as Professor Patrick Vallance and Chris Whitty did say, coronavirus loves the winter because immune systems are not as strong. Were indoors and less ventilation and closer together. It isjust were indoors and less ventilation and closer together. It is just a warning. Rememberthe prime and closer together. It is just a warning. Remember the Prime Minister has his libertarian backbenchers snapping at him, the Anti Vaxxers and people who dont want 12 or is year olds to be vaccinated. Boris johnson� s that he was against Vaccine Passports. Sajid javid said the same thing the other day. So, we got. Theres this push and pull weve seen all the way through since march last year. But you cannot. Its out there. March last year. But you cannot. Its out there up up to 7000 a day in hospital. Between 2007 people a day could be hospitalised with covid unless the government implements a basket of measures. What do you think the government should do . Is what do you think the government should do . , , should do . Is interested but vallance said should do . Is interested but vallance said today, should do . Is interested but| vallance said today, basically should do . Is interested but vallance said today, basically do more vallance said today, basically do more now vallance said today, basically do more now and you wont need to do as much more now and you wont need to do as much later more now and you wont need to do as much later iri more now and you wont need to do as much later. In other words, get it early, much later. In other words, get it early, do much later. In other words, get it early, do more than you need. That means early, do more than you need. That means later early, do more than you need. That means later on, you wont have to do so much means later on, you wont have to do so much to crony and stuff. The upside so much to crony and stuff. The upside of so much to crony and stuff. The upside of that is it saves stuff later upside of that is it saves stuff later on upside of that is it saves stuff later on in upside of that is it saves stuff later on in winter draconian stuff~ later on in winter draconian stuff~ henry later on in winter draconian stuff. Henry is right, make the most of this stuff. Henry is right, make the most of this this stuff. Henry is right, make the most of this. This is the only time we will agree of this. This is the only time we willagree. But henry of this. This is the only time we will agree. But henry is right, this thing loves will agree. But henry is right, this thing loves winter. A bug likes colder thing loves winter. A bug likes colder temperatures, thing loves winter. A bug likes coldertemperatures, so thing loves winter. A bug likes colder temperatures, so its tailor made. Thats coming down the track, tailor made. Thats coming down the track, so tailor made. Thats coming down the track, so do tailor made. Thats coming down the track, so do more now. The trouble with this track, so do more now. The trouble with this isnt track, so do more now. The trouble with this isntjust track, so do more now. The trouble with this isnt just the list track, so do more now. The trouble with this isntjust the list made out for with this isntjust the list made out for us, with this isntjust the list made out for us, but also the economic problem out for us, but also the economic problem. Every time you start causing problem. Every time you start causing problems in work from home, you bring causing problems in work from home, you bring in causing problems in work from home, you bring in more masks, you contract you bring in more masks, you contract economic activity in Society Contract economic activity in society. The nation makes this money less society. The nation makes this money less money. That is where hes called less money. That is where hes called on less money. That is where hes called on the less money. That is where hes called on. The one thing, he might be libertarian and have his political be libertarian and have his political opponents saying hes not doing political opponents saying hes not doing enough, but he also has this economic doing enough, but he also has this economic problem. Hell be damned if he does economic problem. Hell be damned if he does and economic problem. Hell be damned if he does and if he doesnt. I cant he does and if he doesnt. Icant see why he does and if he doesnt. Icant see why as he does and if he doesnt. I cant see why as a he does and if he doesnt. I cant see why as a nation, we cant have masks see why as a nation, we cant have masks in the see why as a nation, we cant have masks in the way the Far East tend to have masks in the way the Far East tend to have masks so much of the time. Asia tends to have masks so much of the time. Asia tends to to have masks so much of the time. Asia tends to handle masks as a matter. Asia tends to handle masks as a matter, and i thought that would be a matter matter, and i thought that would be a matter that doesnt cost any economic a matter that doesnt cost any economic Problem Or Anything else. Its economic Problem Or Anything else. Its quite economic Problem Or Anything else. Its quite a economic Problem Or Anything else. Its quite a sort of. This continues its quite a sort of. This continues to kill people and this thing continues to kill people and this thing hasnt gone away. Let� s continues to kill people and this thing hasnt gone away. Lets go to the Daily Mail. Warning of Working From Home, surprise its back to panic stations. There has been the sense, henry, and i spoke to a doctor this evening who said that weve always given this impression as a country that were on the back foot. Were not ahead of this virus and were not putting measures in place that will mean that were not surprised. Essentially, he believes that masks would be an obvious signal that this thing hasnt gone away. Be careful. Away. Be careful. Indeed. Lets remember away. Be careful. Indeed. Lets remember that away. Be careful. Indeed. Lets remember that just away. Be careful. Indeed. Lets remember that just as away. Be careful. Indeed. Lets remember that just as we away. Be careful. Indeed. Lets remember that just as we have away. Be careful. Indeed. Lets. Remember thatjust as we have a Culture War in the states, which is embarrassing mass wearing and vaccination, we also have something similar here. Not as nasty, but wearing a mask is now in some quarters a political act. If you look at Prime Ministers questions or watch parliament, you will see on the Labour Side most people wearing masks and on the tory side, not wearing masks. Trying to signal to their constituents that we are a libertarian party, we believe in freedom and we dont like wearing masks. That is one reason why the necessary mitigation measures that digby outlined and scientists are urging the Prime Minister to take are unconscionable at the moment. But if the Death Rate increases, if the increase is a surge in hospitalisations and deaths, then there will be forced to do this. Its very interesting that the Daily Mail talks about surprise, its back to panic stations. They are one of those newspapers that will attack the government if the deaths increase massively, but will be giving publicity to those mps who hate all of this. They are trying to play both sides. I dont think its a case of panic stations. Were very calm, as wasjonathan van hamm, just yesterday. Jonathan van tam. We have to decide on science, not panic. Have to decide on science, not anic. ,. , ,. , panic. The problem is, there is a roblem panic. The problem is, there is a problem there. Panic. The problem is, there is a problem there. Im panic. The problem is, there is a problem there. Im not panic. The problem is, there is a problem there. Im not bluntly i problem there. Im not bluntly disagreeing, but the trouble is being disagreeing, but the trouble is being scientists these scientists thought being scientists these scientists thought about them problem is a politician thought about them problem is a politician taking that advice, because politician taking that advice, because they are the experts, you follow because they are the experts, you follow the because they are the experts, you follow the science completely and you completely freezer country. 0r you completely freezer country. Or you completely freezer country. Or you ignore you completely freezer country. Or you ignore the science because of the libertarian issue or any other and have the libertarian issue or any other and have 7000 hospitalisations a day. And have 7000 hospitalisations a day the and have 7000 hospitalisations a day. The politician, we will all have day. The politician, we will all have phd day. The politician, we will all have phd 5 in hindsight. We will all he have phd 5 in hindsight. We will all be people who say weve got that right all be people who say weve got that right one all be people who say weve got that right. One thing we have not mentioned, and one only one Paper Picks mentioned, and one only one Paper Picks this mentioned, and one only one Paper Picks this up, is that all the Over 505 picks this up, is that all the Over 50s will picks this up, is that all the Over 505 will have a pick5 this up, is that all the Over 505 will have a Booster Pick5 this up, is that all the Over 505 will have a boo5terjab by christmas. If thats the case, that chri5tma5. If thats the case, that has to chri5tma5. If thats the case, that has to he chri5tma5. If thats the case, that has to be not only a good thing, it will put has to be not only a good thing, it will Put Pressure on them. That has to be not only a good thing, it will Put Pressure on them. Will Put Pressure on them. That is what the government will Put Pressure on them. That is what the government is will Put Pressure on them. That is what the government is relying i will Put Pressure on them. That is. What the government is relying on, the efficacy of the vaccine and 12 to 15 year olds getting it next week in order to cut the disruption that there is to children because my education. Since the government wants to keep moving forward on this, and not, according to the i, resorting to Plan C, which is possibly returning to a lockdown. Well, that will only happen if there is a terrible surge and the nhs cant cope. If we approach the kind of situation that we saw in the real Peak Injanuary and february, when we had 1800 people a day dying, seven or so thousand being hospitalised. At one point, 40,000 people in hospital at one time. I think now, its 8200, and that impacts all the other services of the nhs. All the counter services, all the mental health services, the heart disease, Hip Replacement and all the things we have neglected and weve seen a backlog in the millions. Thats why its important to have that. They are calling it a Plan C, but we dont want to get there. That depends on all of us, it depends on the government. They have to listen very carefully and very closely to what the scientists say, and act in the interest. People are dying in huge numbers, and thats going to damage the economy anyway. We are highly industrialised and we try to eliminate unnecessary deaths, and thats what the Governments Firstjob is. 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