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Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. Joining me tonight are jessica elgot, the deputy Political Editor at the guardian, and olivia utley, the Telegraphs Assistant Comment editor. Welcome to you both, nice to see you. The front pages, then . Lets start with the times it says borisjohnson has outlined his vision for another decade in power, which would see him beating margaret thatchers time in number ten. The telegraph carries a warning from ministers, that Council Tax bills may have to rise next year, to pay for social care. According to the i, the Prime Minister is set to tell the public they could face tougher covid restrictions this autumn. The sun reports that lawyers for Virginia Giuffre the woman who has accused Prince Andrew of Sexual Abuse claim they have successfully served him with legal papers. The same story makes the front page of the Daily Mail. But the newspaper also carries a picture of 18 year old emma raducanu, who has reached the final of the us open. And the express says action is under way to speed up the recruitment of truckers, in order to prevent empty shelves at christmas. So lets begin with the Daily Mail. Andrew served with us Sex Case papers. A bizarre and mouse at the dukes home in windsor, olivia, and ive read the affidavit from the deponent who tried to serve these papers, and it certainly wasnt easy none of the staff were going to help him do that. Ho. None of the staff were going to help him do that. None of the staff were going to help him do that. No, its a bizarre sto , help him do that. No, its a bizarre story. It sounds help him do that. No, its a bizarre story, it sounds like help him do that. No, its a bizarre story, it sounds like its help him do that. No, its a bizarre story, it sounds like its from help him do that. No, its a bizarre story, it sounds like its from a story, it sounds like its from a time before mobile phones, like The Beginning Of A 19505 film. Youve got him turning up at the House At Windsor and trying to serve papers, being passed on to a man who says he has to speak to the head of security, then he goes back and speaks to the head of security, who says he can leave it with a Police Man. But now the Daily Mail it suggests Prince Andrews team are saying the papers were not served properly, leaving them with the Police Man wasnt good enough. So this seems to be the way that Prince Andrew is hoping to evade this hearing. Theres also the suggestion that he might want to get off on a technicality unfortunately we cant see inside the paper yet. In cant see inside the paper yet. In the end, it looks like one of the many Police Officers on duty at one of the lodges in Windsor Great Parker said, of the lodges in Windsor Great Parkersaid, yeah, ok, give me the papers and ill make sure they get there. But it was a bit of a wing and a prayerfor the person there. But it was a bit of a wing and a prayer for the person trying to deliver them. The and a prayer for the person trying to deliver them. To deliver them. The way that its described in to deliver them. The way that its described in both to deliver them. The way that its described in both the to deliver them. The way that its described in both the mail to deliver them. The way that its described in both the mail and i to deliver them. The way that its| described in both the mail and the affidavit, described in both the mail and the affidavit, this trying to reach his private affidavit, this trying to reach his private sector, trying to reach him and having private sector, trying to reach him and having to come back the next day, and having to come back the next day, leave and having to come back the next day, leave it with a Police Manjust on the day, leave it with a Police Manjust on the off day, leave it with a Police Manjust on the off chance that thats how it gets there on the off chance that thats how it gets there on the off chance that thats how it gets there however it looks, and im gets there however it looks, and im sure gets there however it looks, and im sure that gets there however it looks, and im sure that andrews legal team have im sure that andrews legal team have their im sure that andrews legal team have their own version of affairs, its hot have their own version of affairs, its not edifying. It doesnt look like someone who welcomes the transparency, that this hearing would transparency, that this hearing would bring. And we certainly note prince would bring. And we certainly note Prince Andrew doesnt Take That view, Prince Andrew doesnt Take That view, even Prince Andrew doesnt Take That view, even though he vigorously denies view, even though he vigorously denies all view, even though he vigorously denies all the allegations made against denies all the allegations made against him. Weve seen him disappear against him. Weve seen him disappearup to against him. Weve seen him disappear up to Bell Moral and, supposedly because he didnt want to be around supposedly because he didnt want to be around when this happened. It doesnt be around when this happened. It doesnt convey a sense of princely, transparent doesnt convey a sense of princely, transparent behaviour. Its something that could become so damaging for the Royal Family its been damaging for the Royal Family its been a damaging for the Royal Family its been a difficult year, with Meghan And Harry been a difficult year, with Meghan And Harry been a difficult year, with Meghan And Harry but this doesnt even compare and harry but this doesnt even compare to and harry but this doesnt even compare to how damaging this could be. � ,. ,. , compare to how damaging this could be. � ,. , be. Lets look at the daily telegraph be. Lets look at the daily telegraph. � facemasks i be. Lets look at the daily | telegraph. � facemasks will be. Lets look at the daily telegraph. � facemasks will be back telegraph. Facemasks will be back if virus Cases Surge in the autumn. Weve already heard Nicola Sturgeon saying it would be foolish for any leader to say that there wont have to be some sort of retrograde steps taken because as weve seen, theres still Tens Of Thousands of new cases emerging every day, and still far too many people dying. Yes. Emerging every day, and still far too many people dying. Yes, and cases are really too many people dying. Yes, and cases are really starting too many people dying. Yes, and cases are really starting to too many people dying. Yes, and cases are really starting to move | cases are really starting to move now, hospitalisations are really starting to move, and we havent really seen the full effect of schools reopening on Case Numbers and hospitalisations. We know the Delta Variant is certainly affecting children more, lots of young children, those below the age of any vaccination that might be ruled out. We know that Downing Street will do a bit of pitch rolling, as its been described to me, next week to try to warn that there are likely to be tough times to come in the autumn, and borisjohnson personally is extremely against imposing any form of lockdown, really against any forms of social distancing measures. Facemasks feels like something the government could do. But youve only got a look at the House Of Commons, the front Bench Ministers who a few months ago were saying they would definitely continue to wear facemasks and crowded places, and the House Of Commons has been pretty crowded this week, and none were wearing facemasks. Iere crowded this week, and none were wearing facemasks. Crowded this week, and none were wearing facemasks. Ive been on some trains lately. Wearing facemasks. Ive been on some trains lately, and wearing facemasks. Ive been on some trains lately, and fewer wearing facemasks. Ive been on some trains lately, and fewer and wearing facemasks. Ive been on some trains lately, and fewer and fewer, trains lately, and fewer and fewer, particularly on long journeys which i suppose you can understand, are not wearing them any more. Weve come a long way from somebody i know on Social Media saying, i was thinking the other day, we werent even allowed to sit on benches at one point last year. So the restrictions at the moment are really minimal in comparison. I know, its strangely easy to forget what know, its strangely easy to forget what life know, its strangely easy to forget what life was like only 14 15 months ao. What life was like only 14 15 months ago and what life was like only 14 15 months ago and i what life was like only 14 15 months ago. And i think Thats Part of the reason ago. And i think Thats Part of the reason why ago. And i think Thats Part of the reason why the Prime Minister is staying reason why the Prime Minister is staying at reason why the Prime Minister is staying at the moment, although weve staying at the moment, although weve seen this before, that hes very reluctant to oppose any serious you very reluctant to oppose any serious you might very reluctant to oppose any serious you might call facemasks serious restrictions, you might call facemasks serious restrictions, Orany Form you might call facemasks serious restrictions, or any form of tockdown restrictions, or any form of lockdown as was being rumoured earlier lockdown as was being rumoured earlier in lockdown as was being rumoured earlier in the week. Hes desperate to avoid earlier in the week. Hes desperate to avoid It Earlier in the week. Hes desperate to avoid it and he officially knows the massive costs to businesses, and he has the massive costs to businesses, and he has in the massive costs to businesses, and he has in the the massive costs to businesses, and he has in the back of his mind up in peoples he has in the back of his mind up in peoples taxes, and putting a strain on the peoples taxes, and putting a strain on the economy is not what he needs iilht on the economy is not what he needs right now on the economy is not what he needs right now. He really wants to avoid this right now. He really wants to avoid this as right now. He really wants to avoid this as far right now. He really wants to avoid this. As far as figures are concerned, it looks as though we will have concerned, it looks as though we will have a concerned, it looks as though we will have a long peak and hospitalisations are in the 900,0005 in the moment. Most 900,000s in the moment. Most scientists 900,0005 in the moment. Most scientists say it doesnt look like we are scientists say it doesnt look like we are heading towards x financial growth we are heading towards x financial growth again, sol we are heading towards x financial growth again, so i think hes treading growth again, so i think hes treading quite a thin line here of what treading quite a thin line here of what to treading quite a thin line here of what to do treading quite a thin line here of what to do to keep the nhs Under Controt what to do to keep the nhs under control thought at the moment i really control thought at the moment i really think it is very open, there is such really think it is very open, there is such a really think it is very open, there is such a wide range of measures, and the is such a wide range of measures, and The Telegraph suggests that even if masks and The Telegraph suggests that even if masks were to be introduced, they would if masks were to be introduced, they would be if masks were to be introduced, they would be advisory, not even compulsory. So that would be very different compulsory. So that would be very different compared to the lockdown we were different compared to the lockdown we were in different compared to the lockdown we were in 15 months ago. And fingers we were in 15 months ago. And fingers crossed thats all that will be needed in the autumn at least for me. Be needed in the autumn at least for me. Im be needed in the autumn at least for me, im getting married next month for me, im getting married next month. ~. , for me, im getting married next month. ~. , �. ,. , month. Well gosh, we dont want any rollin month. Well gosh, we dont want any rolling back. Month. Well gosh, we dont want any rolling back. Do month. Well gosh, we dont want any rolling back, do we . Month. Well gosh, we dont want any rolling back, do we . Jessica, month. Well gosh, we dont want any rolling back, do we . Jessica, which i rolling back, do we . Jessica, which Planning Laws are going to be shaken up . Planning laws are going to be shaken u . Planning laws are going to be shaken u. . , �. ,. , Planning Laws are going to be shaken up . There wasnt meant to be an extraordinary up . There wasnt meant to be an extraordinary shakeup up . There wasnt meant to be an extraordinary shakeup of up . There wasnt meant to be an extraordinary shakeup of the i extraordinary Shake Up of the Application Process basically tearing up the whole system and replacing it with a Zonal System, which essentially strips homeowners of their rights to object to new homes. And if there is a designated growth zone, the presumption is the Building Permission is already granted, and councils have artie been given these mandatory House Building targets to meet. Have already been. The places affected by this, you may think its affected by this, you may think its a great thing that we are building more houses because a Housing Crisis and building more houses should in theory solve that. But the places that have been really affected are a lot of these Tory Suburban Shire seats where you might see Warehouses Worth a lot of money, and lots of the fields nearby, new houses built in order to meet these targets. One of the places that really could been affected by this, or at least people perceived it to be, where the Liberal Democrats overturned a huge tory majority with a by Election Shock that spooked a lot of tories, theres a real opposition in the tory party, weve been hearing these rumours for many months that they are going to significant Lee Water it down, those mandatory House Building targets will go into Zonal System will be watered down, it wont be automatic any more. And i think this is to train cool down some tensions in the party and some nerves amongst tory voters. Luntimely nerves amongst tory voters. When Eo Le nerves amongst tory voters. When people say nerves amongst tory voters. When people say their nerves amongst tory voters. When people say their vote nerves amongst tory voters. When people say their vote doesnt nerves amongst tory voters. When people say their vote doesnt count, here theyre not even having to cast a vote, theyjust have to say they dont like this and theyll remember come the next ballot. I dont like this and theyll remember come the next ballot. Come the next ballot. I completely auree come the next ballot. I completely a. Ree with come the next ballot. I completely agree with everything come the next ballot. I completely agree with Everything Jessica come the next ballot. I completely agree with Everything Jessica is agree with Everything Jessica is saying agree with Everything Jessica is saying there. What the tories are worried saying there. What the tories are worried about is this leveling up agenda, worried about is this leveling up agenda, for so long, has been able to be agenda, for so long, has been able to be very agenda, for so long, has been able to be very flexible and means all things to be very flexible and means all things to to be very flexible and means all things to all people. An emp can come things to all people. An emp can come in things to all people. An emp can come in and talk about leveling out, and their come in and talk about leveling out, and their constituents will believe whatever and their constituents will believe whatever if you vote tory. 0r and their constituents will believe whatever if you vote tory. Or it means whatever if you vote tory. Or it means getting businesses back on their feet, means getting businesses back on theirfeet, orwhatever. Now Boris Johnson theirfeet, orwhatever. Now Boris Johnson is theirfeet, orwhatever. Now Boris Johnson is having to put some meat on the johnson is having to put some meat on The Bones of this leveling up agenda, on The Bones of this leveling up agenda, and it looks a bit like what leveling agenda, and it looks a bit like what leveling up agenda, and it looks a bit like what leveling up is, taking away from the south leveling up is, taking away from the south to leveling up is, taking away from the south to feed the north and keep that Brexit Face of northern voters who lent that Brexit Face of northern voters who lent their votes to Boris Johnson who lent their votes to Boris Johnson because he said just after the election, at because of brexit, he thinks the election, at because of brexit, he thinks might not be true blue tories he thinks might not be true blue tories. And there are lots of people in the tories. And there are lots of people in the south tories. And there are lots of people in the south who are worried about that in the south who are worried about that add in the south who are worried about that. Add to that, the idea these voters that. Add to that, the idea these voters who that. Add to that, the idea these voters who are worried that their taxes voters who are worried that their taxes will voters who are worried that their taxes will be raised to fund and for Structuring Taxes will be raised to fund and for structuring the north and the idea that theyre having their houses built that theyre having their houses built in that theyre having their houses built in their back gardens and not allowed built in their back gardens and not allowed to built in their back gardens and not allowed to object to it it doesnt sit very allowed to object to it it doesnt sit very well, and probably quite a lot of sit very well, and probably quite a lot of shy sit very well, and probably quite a lot of shy suburban Tory Mp5 were lot of 5hy suburban Tory Mp5 were putting lot of 5hy suburban Tory Mp5 were putting quite a lot of shy suburban Tory Mp5 were putting quite a lot of pressure on boris putting quite a lot of pressure on borisjohnson to water putting quite a lot of pressure on Boris Johnson to water this down will probably get their way. Olivia, Sta In will probably get their way. Olivia, staying with will probably get their way. Olivia, staying with you will probably get their way. Olivia, staying with you for will probably get their way. Olivia, staying with you for the will probably get their way. Olivia, staying with you for the front staying with you for the front page of the independent they are online these days but they do these Mock Ups of front pages, and their pictures are always very striking. This one anyone who remembers these scenes from 20 years ago, thats whats so hard to really take on board. But it is two decades ago, olivia, how the tragedy change the world. There are so many stories that weve reported on these past 20 years that have been affected by that day. Years that have been affected by that da. ,. ,. ,. , that day. The whole world changed on recognisably that day. The whole world changed on Recognisably L that day. The whole world changed on recognisably. I heard that day. The whole world changed on recognisably. I heard a that day. The whole world changed on recognisably. I heard a report recognisably. I heard a report earlier recognisably. I heard a report earlier talk about people who have been born earlier talk about people who have been born since 9 11 who are proper adults been born since 9 11 who are proper adults now. Been born since 9 11 who are proper adults now, and their entire worldview has been shaded through the Lens Worldview has been shaded through the lens of 9 11. So itll be a fascinating weekend looking at this level of fascinating weekend looking at this level of fascinating weekend looking at this level of we are so zoomed out from it now level of we are so zoomed out from it now that level of we are so zoomed out from it now that we level of we are so zoomed out from it now that we can see whats happened in afghanistan, whats still happening in afghanistan, and it all really stems from that one point it all really stems from that one point so it all really stems from that one point so it it all really stems from that one point. So it lots of reflection over the weekend. Point. So it lots of reflection over the weekend. Lots of reflection and also the fact the weekend. Lots of reflection and also the fact that the weekend. Lots of reflection and also the fact that the the weekend. Lots of reflection and also the fact that the taliban the weekend. Lots of reflection and also the fact that the taliban are i also the fact that the taliban are now back in charge of afghanistan, and the fear is that we will see more Terrorist Attacks in the west . Yes, and i think thats probably a valid fear, and i think there are differences in the way the taliban say they will operate now, and this is how they operated then. But i think the fact that afghanistan has become a place where certain groups were tolerated, if not harboured, it was clearly one of the reasons why the us felt that the invasion was warranted. I think what were seeing now is a kind of retreat, a total retreat from that frame of mind, that american frame of mind now. Start abide donald trump, followed byjoe biden, to incredibly different politicians, who feel that america was at time of the world polices over it might be welcomed elsewhere, and we are seeing a real shift in global power, global leadership in the way the us is willing to do these things now. 20 years on, its a poignant moment to mark. , , years on, its a poignant moment to mark. , , , mark. Super. Industry Experts Wor of mark. Super. Industry Experts Worry of long mark. Super. Industry Experts Worry of long term mark. Super. Industry Experts Worry of long Term Damage i mark. Super. Industry Experts Worry of long Term Damage from | worry of long Term Damage from brexit and covid. Lots of things all at once . ,. , ~ brexit and covid. Lots of things all at once . ,. ,. , at once . Yes, and i think there has been a tendency, at once . Yes, and i think there has been a tendency, particularly i at once . Yes, and i think there has been a tendency, particularly from | been a tendency, particularly from the government, to describe these shells the government, to describe these shells as the government, to describe these shells as teething problems with brexit shells as teething problems with brexit. �. , shells as teething problems with brexit. �. ,. , brexit. But rather than admitting that there is brexit. But rather than admitting that there is a brexit. But rather than admitting that there is a fundamental i that there is a fundamental reshaping of our relationship with trade, and our relationship with labour and people who work here. So until the economy can catch up with the fact that we will have to have Labour Shortages because People Cant get to work as easily, Hdv Driver Shortage hgtv, getting Food And Drink here from elsewhere is

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