Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are geraldine scott, who is a political correspondent at the press association, and the Broadcaster And Journalist james lewer. Lets bring you up to date with the front pages that they have been looking at all ready for us this evening. The times has children set to be jabbed from early next week, despite a refusal by Thejcvi Independent scientific advisers to recommend vaccinations for 12 to 15 year olds. Ministers insist the Vaccination Programme will go ahead, says the telegraph, despite scientific advisers saying benefits are too small. Ministers expected to defy advice on jabs for children is the guardians take. The i says the Vaccines Watchdog is under fire for passing the buck to the four Chief Medical Officers of the uk, who are now under pressure to push through jabs for 12 to 15 year olds. The ft reports that apple is delaying its plans for a child sexual abuse detection code, after criticism from Privacy Campaigners. No respect is the headline in the express, amid Buckingham Palace Fury as the Queens Funeral plans are leaked. The mirror sums up its feeling about the royal Funeral Leak with the headline how could they . All of that to come. Lets plunge straight in. Geraldine, do you want to kick us off with the telegraph, a Story Plenty of the papers and indeed us on the Bbc Mission have covered . But it is already incited the four Chief Medical Officers of the four Chief Medical Officers of the four Chief Medical Officers of the four nations of the uk are going to go ahead with vaccination for 12 to go ahead with vaccination for 12 to 15 year old. It to go ahead with vaccination for 12 to 15yearold to 15yearold. It sounds like it, doesnt to 15yearold. It sounds like it, doesnt it . To 15yearold. It sounds like it, doesnt it . An to 15yearold. It sounds like it, doesnt it . An interesting to 15yearold. It sounds like it, doesnt it . An interesting thing | doesnt it . An interesting thing about this is the jcvi doesnt it . An interesting thing about this is thejcvi might have recommended against it on the fact that the marginal benefit is too small, but that only is considering the health benefit. What that is not considering is the wider educational and the more holistic view. We are very aware that the kind of Covid Risk in schools has caused massive disruption for children and their education over the last couple of years, so it sounds like what the cmo is our going to be considering is the wider impact here and going with that. At times like if these reports are true, it could be that this is rode out from the week it sounds like. We know plans are in place to roll out these jabs in schools and colleges if necessary, so it sounds like it is going to be full steam ahead. Of course all the jcvi can advise, the ministers and cmos decide. Jcvi can advise, the ministers and cmos decide jcvi can advise, the ministers and cmos decide. ,. ,. ,. ,. ,. ~ cmos decide. James, what do you make of it . It is interesting. Cmos decide. James, what do you make of it . It is interesting. I cmos decide. James, what do you make of it . It is interesting. I am of it . It is interesting. I am not really surprise of it . It is interesting. I am not really surprise the of it . It is interesting. I am not really surprise the government| of it . It is interesting. I am not really surprise the government have pushed really surprise the government have pushed ahead with it, it looks like they are pushed ahead with it, it looks like they are pushing ahead with it. Lots of eu they are pushing ahead with it. Lots of eu countries have decided to do it, vaccinate 12 15 year olds. The Uk Government saying, if they are doing Uk Government saying, if they are doing it. Uk government saying, if they are doing it, why would we not do it . I think doing it, why would we not do it . I think what doing it, why would we not do it . I think what geraldine says about the classroom think what geraldine says about the Classroom Disruption is an important part of Classroom Disruption is an important part of this Classroom Disruption is an important part of this as well. With infections rolling, with kids going back to infections rolling, with kids going back to the classrooms, there are concerns back to the classrooms, there are concerns about what impact might have on concerns about what impact might have on the white population as welt, have on the white population as welt, and have on the white population as well, and obviously if we seek infections, kids missing learning and infections, kids missing Learning Ahd that infections, kids missing learning and that type of thing, that is going and that type of thing, that is going to and that type of thing, that is going to be a part of it as well the wider going to be a part of it as well the wider population. We might see somem the wider population. We might see some. There are two sides to this, with the some. There are two sides to this, with the fact some. There are two sides to this, with the fact that there are Side Effects with the fact that there are Side Effects that kids get when they have these effects that kids get when they have these vaccines, and that could mean they have these vaccines, and that could mean they have time also as well, so there they have time also as well, so there is they have time also as well, so there is that to consider. So, yeah, ithink there is that to consider. So, yeah, ithihk for there is that to consider. So, yeah, i think for the government it is a bit of i think for the government it is a bit of a i think for the government it is a bit of a trade off, but it feels like the bit of a trade off, but it feels like the jcvi are giving advice and the Government Feel like it is the film the Government Feel like it is the right decision to go ahead and get these right decision to go ahead and get these vaccines done, because It Moves these vaccines done, because It Moves things forward a little but more moves things forward a little but more. � moves things forward a little but more. G. , moves things forward a little but more. ~ g. , moves things forward a little but more. ~ , more. And, james, The Times has the same story. More. And, james, The Times has the same story. But more. And, james, The Times has the same story. But it more. And, james, The Times has the same story, but it is more. And, james, The Times has the same story, but it is even more. And, james, The Times has the same story, but it is even more same story, but it is even more robust in predictions. It is saying children connect to start being from early next week, so it almost suggests this is a decision that is going to be taken very quickly over the weekend. Going to be taken very quickly over the weekend the weekend. Absolutely. We are auoin to the weekend. Absolutely. We are going to probably the weekend. Absolutely. We are going to probably see the weekend. Absolutely. We are going to probably see that going to probably see that three pronged Press Conference we have seen three pronged Press Conference we have seen with Chris Whitty and patrick have seen with Chris Whitty and patrick vallance, no doubt, and the reports patrick vallance, no doubt, and the reports weve been looking at suggest reports weve been looking at suggest that Chris Whitty is in favour suggest that Chris Whitty is in favour of suggest that Chris Whitty is in favour of doing this, it is always Something Favour of doing this, it is always something he has been in favour going something he has been in favour going ahead with, so you would think he is the going ahead with, so you would think he is the one who will be say it is good he is the one who will be say it is good idea he is the one who will be say it is good idea and he will layout the benefits, good idea and he will layout the benefits, these are the things we are saying. I think it will announce fairly are saying. I think it will announce fairly quickly and i think it is probably fairly quickly and i think it is probably a good thing overall. I think probably a good thing overall. I think parents. The thing about this, think parents. The thing about this, the think parents. The thing about this, the vaccines generally, they should this, the vaccines generally, they should not this, the vaccines generally, they should not really have a major impact should not really have a major impact on should not really have a major impact on kids, on their health, and there impact on kids, on their health, and there are impact on kids, on their health, and there are visible be some Side Effects there are visible be some Side Effects and there have been reports there effects and there have been reports there is effects and there have been reports there is a effects and there have been reports there is a small chance there could be a heart there is a small chance there could be a Heart Issue and stuff with some of these be a Heart Issue and stuff with some of these vaccines, but i think it is every of these vaccines, but i think it is every small of these vaccines, but i think it is every small thing, and the other thing every small thing, and the other thing to every small thing, and the other thing to consider as well is the fact that thing to consider as well is the fact that kids generally are impacted by coronavirus anyway, so either impacted by coronavirus anyway, so either way, impacted by coronavirus anyway, so either way, this goes, impacted by coronavirus anyway, so eitherway, this goes, i impacted by coronavirus anyway, so either way, this goes, i think it is not going either way, this goes, i think it is not going to either way, this goes, i think it is not going to be issue either way, but i not going to be issue either way, but i think not going to be issue either way, but i think politically the Government Feel is better to go ahead Government Feel is better to go ahead and jab the so. It is interesting, ahead and jab the so. It is interesting, geraldine, ahead and jab the so. It 3 interesting, geraldine, that this times piece goes to the level of saying, actually, is understanding Chris Whitty is in favour, or least i was the telegraph. The Chief Medical Officer in scotland is expected to be in favour because cases are surging north of the border, but our stats quy north of the border, but our Stats Guy pointed out the number of adults who have not been vaccinated is significantly higher than that whole cohort and that would raise the question of whether we are, in a sense, getting our priorities right. I thick we need to vaccinate everyone who is willing to vaccinated, really. I think. That is the main point, isnt it . The education union, they are saying not only could this protect children but their parents and teachers as well was to my own mother is a teacher and she is very keen for children to be vaccinated, so that that protects her and her colleagues as well, so it is notjust the kids we are thinking about here for some this is a wider effect and there are more people that get the job, the better, i think is the idea here. The indirect benefit i think is the idea here. The indirect Benefit Aspect of it, the jcvi saying on this channel, that they have taken into consideration for some that move onto the ft weeked. Saturday morning front page, apple Delays Child Sex abuse detection code. This seems like one of those where youre damned if you do, damned if you dont. Is a do, damned if you dont. Is a balance do, damned if you dont. Is a balance. Everyone do, damned if you dont. Is. Balance. Everyone wants to see all the measures possible to guard against child sexual abuse, but of course ive see a detective, Privacy Campaigners have said the sort of technologies could be a privacy breach. There have been people committing these offences, its Isaac Apple is having a rethink and has listened to these campaigners over these concerns and it is going away and delaying this roll out. This kind of scheme was really welcomed by a lot of countries, including the uk, because it is an issue that needs to be tackled, but those who are concerned about their privacy are saying that, really, this needs to be looked at again and revisited, and it does look that Tech Change really thinking about that and going back to the Drawing Board and seeing what they can do. That tech giant. Clearly an issue for apple in terms of its brand as well, for a lot of the kind of Tech Savvy users, if it is perceived as being policing them a. ,. , , is perceived as being policing them a. , , is perceived as being policing them a. ,. , a. Absolutely. This is so important for them to a. Absolutely. This is so important for them to get a. Absolutely. This is so important for them to get right, a. Absolutely. This is so important for them to get right, but a. Absolutely. This is so important for them to get right, but if they i for them to get right, but if they et for them to get right, but if they get it for them to get right, but if they get it wrong, it would be really bad. And get it wrong, it would be really bad. And i get it wrong, it would be really bad, and i think Child Safety campaigners will argue that maybe this is campaigners will argue that maybe this is kicking the can down the road. This is kicking the can down the road. But this is kicking the can down the road. But i this is kicking the can down the road, but i think it is so vital this road, but i think it is so vital this is road, but i think it is so vital this is done correctly for some of think this is done correctly for some of think they this is done correctly for some of think they will be parents out there that warit think they will be parents out there that want this to be done correctly as well that want this to be done correctly as well because this is a part of it where as well because this is a part of it where if as well because this is a part of it where if parents have the focus of the kids where if parents have the focus of the kids on where if parents have the focus of the kids on their phones, they take pictures the kids on their phones, they take pictures of the kids on their phones, they take pictures of the kids and families together. Pictures of the kids and families together, they dont want all those photos together, they dont want all those photos to together, they dont want all those photos to be accessible to people in Silicoh Photos to be accessible to people in silicon valley, so it is important we get silicon valley, so it is important we get the silicon valley, so it is important we get the Balance Right between the two and we get the Balance Right between the two and it we get the Balance Right between the two and it is a really fine Balancing Act and im sure that apple Balancing Act and im sure that apple will be working as hard as they can apple will be working as hard as they can to make sure when they they canto make sure when they do firrally they can to make sure when they do finally roll they can to make sure when they do finally roll it they can to make sure when they do finally roll it out it is done in a very finally roll it out it is done in a very targeted way and obviously i think. Very targeted way and obviously i think, long term, it will be a very good think, long term, it will be a very good things in terms of detection and it good things in terms of detection and it must be done right. James, the telegraph. And it must be done right. James, the telegraph, in and it must be done right. James, the telegraph, in some and it must be done right. James, the telegraph, in some ways and it must be done right. James, the telegraph, in some ways it i and it must be done right. James, the telegraph, in some ways it is| the telegraph, in some ways it is interesting is on the front page, but it is kind of squeezed in, because this is potentially a huge story, for anyone in england, in terms of the impact of a decision finally on a Funding Stream for aduu finally on a Funding Stream for adult Social Care. And elderly care. There seemed to be a debate about whether he could come out of Income Tax or national insurance also either way, tax or national insurance also eitherway, It Tax or national insurance also either way, it is going to be a requirement for the taxpayer, but it will mean the conservatives after kind of Break One Of Manifesto pledges. Kind of Break One Of Manifesto ledues. �. Kind of Break One Of Manifesto ledes. , � ,. , kind of Break One Of Manifesto ledues. � ,. , kind of Break One Of Manifesto ledes. � ,. , kind of Break One Of Manifesto nledes. � ,. ,. , kind of Break One Of Manifesto nledues. � ,. ,. , pledges. Thats a big part of it, isnt it . They pledges. Thats a big part of it, isnt it . They said pledges. Thats a big part of it, isnt it . They said they were i pledges. Thats a big part of it, | isnt it . They said they were not going isnt it . They said they were not going to isnt it . They said they were not going to raise Income Tax in 2019, so it going to raise Income Tax in 2019, so it is going to raise Income Tax in 2019, so it is clearly not going to be very so it is clearly not going to be very popular amongst people that pay tax, very popular amongst people that pay tax. But very popular amongst people that pay tax, but the money has to come from somewhere. Tax, but the money has to come from somewhere, hasnt it . And Social Care is somewhere, hasnt it . And Social Care is a somewhere, hasnt it . And Social Care is a lrig somewhere, hasnt it . And Social Care is a big problem. People are living care is a big problem. People are living longer, and we have to find the money living longer, and we have to find the money somewhere, and at the moment the money somewhere, and at the moment the impact of Coronavirus Means moment the impact of Coronavirus Means that moment the impact of Coronavirus Means that the persons are tighter than ever means that the persons are tighter than ever before, so ultimately it has to than ever before, so ultimately it has to be than ever before, so ultimately it has to be sorted out in some way or another. Has to be sorted out in some way or another. And has to be sorted out in some way or another, and this clearly looks like the irest another, and this clearly looks like the best solution for its stop and even the best solution for its stop and even if the best solution for its stop and even if taxes raised, i dont think even if taxes raised, i dont think at even if taxes raised, i dont think. At least it will help in some think. At least it will help in some way think. At least it will help in some way. I think a lot of people say. Some way. I think a lot of people say. If some way. I think a lot of people say. If i some way. I think a lot of people say, if i dont notice it or if theres say, if i dont notice it or if theres a say, if i dont notice it or if theres a slight increase, i wont notice theres a slight increase, i wont notice and theres a slight increase, i wont notice and if it provides or money for my notice and if it provides or money for my mum notice and if it provides or money for my Mum And Dad or my granddad to live a for my Mum And Dad or my granddad to live a happier for my Mum And Dad or my granddad to live a happier end of their lives, thats live a happier end of their lives, thats a live a happier end of their lives, thats a good thing, sol live a happier end of their lives, thats a good thing, so i think they will be thats a good thing, so i think they will be lots thats a good thing, so i think they will be lots of people who feel like it is hot will be lots of people who feel like it is not too much of an issue and there it is not too much of an issue and there will it is not too much of an issue and there will be some others that say, i there will be some others that say, i dont there will be some others that say, i dont want there will be some others that say, i dont want to pay more tax, but i dont idont want to pay more tax, but i dont know i dont want to pay more tax, but i dont know if, really, people will see the dont know if, really, people will see the difference that much, although see the difference that much, although some people may see it more than others although some people may see it more than others depending where you live, which is the other part of it. In live, which is the other part of it. In this live, which is the other part of it. In this issue live, which is the other part of it. In this issue derailed the Conservatives Election in 2017, if i got my dates right. Theresa may. This presumably will have to of been much better thought out this time that it was that time. You much better thought out this time that it was that time. That it was that time. You talk about that that it was that time. You talk about that time. That it was that time. You talk about that time. In that it was that time. You talk about that time. In a that it was that time. You talk about that time. In a former. That it was that time. You talk i about that time. In a former life, i was a Health Correspondent at that regular time, so is writing a lot about this, and borisjohnson still on the Doorsteps Number ten and said that he had a plan for Social Care when he was elected, and here we are two years later. I think the problem the tourers over to face with this, really, besides the Manifesto Breaking is that if they go ahead with this national insurance rise, this is something this is this a person going to affect young people, who we already know have suffered more during the endemic to be other generations disproportionally affect. Centracare is one of these things that we kind of as if society pushed to the site until it is something that impacts us, but it does come to us all. Not only is this going to affect young people but lower pay Social Care is. Theres a risk here, when you combine it with pensions and the triple lock, it is a dangerous game. Ministers are going have to walk quite a thin type of to get it right. Quite a thin type of to get it riuht. �. Quite a thin type of to get it riuht. ,. , right. And it is interesting. You would know right. And it is interesting. You would know this right. And it is interesting. You would know this better right. And it is interesting. You would know this better than i l right. And it is interesting. You i would know this better than i would, because you cover the issues at the time. The tories clearly thought, this is fine, we will sorted, No Problem they underinvest to quite how politically damaging it could be, and present will it was notjust order voters going for them at that stage, it was everybody clearly underestimated. Whether it is the traditional fairness, underestimated. Whether it is the traditionalfairness, the issue of. To use a phrase used by andrew linson, when he rebutted andy Burnhams Labour planes. I remember Ken Clark saying last year, you will never get a Cross Party Consensus on Social Care reform, therefore it will never happen, as recently as a year ago. This is potentially a minefield. It year ago. This is potentially a Minefield Year ago. This is potentially a minefield. ~ minefield. It is a minefield. We often say you minefield. It is a minefield. We often say you cannot minefield. It is a minefield. We often say you cannot please i minefield. It is a minefield. We often say you cannot please all| minefield. It is a minefield. We i often say you cannot please all the people all the time, you cant please all the people with this policy, it is difficult, but it needs to be tackled. This can has been kicked down the road by ministers for too long, and the people suffering are the people who need this care in later life, so it really does need to be something thatis really does need to be something that is tackled pretty soon and it had to be quite a bread it is going to be a brave minister to bite the bullet. fine going to be a brave minister to bite the bullet. , the bullet. One of those where it miuht be the bullet. One of those where it might be the the bullet. One of those where it might be the lasting the bullet. One of those where it might be the lasting you the bullet. One of those where it might be the lasting you do, i the bullet. One of those where it might be the lasting you do, but| might be the lasting you do, but something you will be proud to look back on. Picking up, geraldine, on that subject, the yorkshire post, which has one of its wonderful photographs, it does a lot of these, people engaged in manual skills, particular those ones that are very much individual led, in this case, a Master Armour working in his workshop in chesterfield. Fantastic photo. They have a little story underage saying, actually, a Campaign Expert on this particular subject says, guess what, Manifesto Breaking Tax Rates wont solve problems in Social Care. Again, geraldine, another reason why the ministers might wonder why they might