Footballs world governing body, fifa, investigates last nights events in hungary, where england players were racially abused during their 4 0 win. And at 5 45pm as Hollywood Looks East in marvel� s new asian action blockbuster, does Shang Chi live up to the hype . Well get Anna Smiths take in the Film Review. Good evening, welcome to bbc news. The foreign secretary, Dominic Raab, says hes had constructive discussions with his counterpart in pakistan about securing Safe Passage from afghanistan for people entitled to settle in the uk. With kabul� s airport still closed, pakistan is crucial in the mission to help people flee afghanistan because the two nations share a land border. There are already about Three Million afghan refugees in pakistan. Mr raab told a News Conference in islamabad that britain was sending £30 million of aid to help afghanistans neighbours cope with those fleeing the country. He also said Uk Experts were heading to the region to co ordinate efforts. Our reporter Shumaila Jaffrey travelled with the foreign secretary and has sent This report from islamabad. Relations are frosty, but the spotlight is back on pakistans popular great to see you. It was a first high Level Visit of any british dignitary to the country since the taliban have taken over on the other side. Not far from This border, the foreign secretary Dominic Raab visited, as he landed in pakistan. I Dominic Raab visited, as he landed in pakistan in pakistan. I do want to understand. In pakistan. I do want to understand. Back in pakistan. I do want to i understand. Back home, in pakistan. I do want to understand. Back home, he had in pakistan. I do want to understand. Back home, he had a difficult week understand. Back home, he had a difficult week when understand. Back home, he had a difficult week when he understand. Back home, he had a difficult week when he had understand. Back home, he had a difficult week when he had to understand. Back home, he had a difficult week when he had to face l difficult week when he had to face tough questions by the mps at the Foreign Affairs Select Committee about his handling of the afghan situation. Now hes trying to control the damage. Situation. Now hes trying to control the damage. These are early da s, but control the damage. These are early days. But the control the damage. These are early days, but the taliban control the damage. These are early days, but the taliban have control the damage. These are early days, but the taliban have made control the damage. These are early days, but the taliban have made a l days, but the taliban have made a series of assurances and commitments. We want to be able to test whether they will live up to them and probably the first big test will be allowing Safe Passage of nationals and those that have worked for the Uk And Other Countries out of the country. This is pakistans countries out of the country. This is pakistans border countries out of the country. This is pakistans border with afghanistan. If things become increasingly unstable they are, it matters for the region and the world. Pakistan has defences running through the length of This border, but the real worry here is about extremists from groups like is and alqaeda spilling over the border. The foreign secretary held meetings with pakistani leadership, including Prime Minister imran khan. At a joint Press Conference with pakistans foreign ministers, Dominic Raab Said Britain had released the first charge of humanitarian Aid Assistance for afghanistans neighbours who may have to bear the brunt. Irate afghanistans neighbours who may have to bear the brunt. Afghanistans neighbours who may have to bear the brunt. We would be willin not have to bear the brunt. We would be willing not to have to bear the brunt. We would be willing not to fund have to bear the brunt. We would be willing not to fund the taliban, have to bear the brunt. We would be willing not to fund the taliban, but l willing not to fund the taliban, but through the humanitarian organisations that operate inside afghanistan. Forthat organisations that operate inside afghanistan. For that to happen, there needs to be a safe and secure environment. So again, thats an early test for the taliban. But we are willing to make sure we do our bit with international community. Pakistan has said it will not allow more refugees inside the country. A few thousand did manage to enter last week from the german border. The un fears around 5 Million afghans can seek refuge in neighbouring countries in the days to come. And pakistan holds the key. Sharmila jeffrey, bbc news. The Uks Vaccine advisory body has refused to give the green light to vaccinating healthy children aged 12 15 years old on Health Grounds alone. But Thejoint Committee on vaccination and immunisation concluded that the benefit of vaccinating healthy people within This Age Group only shows a marginal gain but thats insufficient to support a universal offer of a vaccine. Ministers across the uk have asked Chief Medical Officers to consider wider issues including disruption to schools to look at whether that tips the balance. Meanwhile, an extra 200,000 teens with underlying conditions will now be eligible for two doses. Jim reed is here. Weve got quite a few questions from viewers care about This. Its been a long time coming, This decision . About This. Its been a long time coming, This decision . Longer than some peeple coming, This decision . Longer than some people suspected coming, This decision . Longer than some people suspected or coming, This decision . Longer than some people suspected or wanted. J some people suspected or wanted. Theres been a lot of pressure on these scientists that came out with This recommendation. We had the Education Secretary for england, gavin williamson, This week strongly hinting This decision should have been the other way around, and really, he wanted young people to be offered a vaccine, all healthy young people. So theres been a lot of pressure on This group but they finally came to a decision. They said the reason they took so long was because they were waiting for new data to come through. You hinted at This in the introduction, but theyve been weighing up the possible balance of the benefits of the vaccine and possible harms of the vaccine and possible harms of the vaccine and possible harms of the vaccine to that Age Group. Its very difficult because both numbers are incredibly low, we know that the risk of a severe Covid Infection to children is low, we also know that the risk of Side Effects is quite low. So its been tough to measure those two to really see if its worth giving them the vaccine are not. ~ , , worth giving them the vaccine are not. I, worth giving them the vaccine are not. I, not. Why is This process being so drawn out not. Why is This process being so drawn out and not. Why is This process being so drawn out and taking not. Why is This process being so drawn out and taking so not. Why is This process being so drawn out and taking so long not. Why is This process being so i drawn out and taking so long when other countries have managed to make a decision . There is that moral ethical dilemma do you vaccinate children if its really to protect other people, isnt it . Other people, isnt it . Thats riaht, other people, isnt it . Thats right. Its other people, isnt it . Thats right. Its a other people, isnt it . Thats right, its a really other people, isnt it . Thats right, its a really good other people, isnt it . Thats i right, its a really good question because other countries have moved much faster than the uk on This. In the us, theyve been vaccinating 1215 the us, theyve been vaccinating 12 15 Year Olds with the Pfizer Vaccine for months now. Theyve come to a similar decision in france and germany, it looks very likely that other European Countries will follow suit. But we havent followed that decision here at least for The Moment. What theyve said is This is sort of a short Term Decision that the Health Benefits at The Moment dont look strong enough to outweigh any risks, though they said there is any risks, though they said there is a marginal benefit. But theyll go away and ask other scientists, the Chief Medical Officer is for the four countries, to decide if the societal benefits are wider, given that vaccines prevents disruption in schools, tips about the other way. And we should get that decision in the next three have been four days. Robin bailey says, why is no one talking about 12 15 Year Olds being carriers on public transportation, shared by older people . And when they meet and visit their grandparents, for example . Again, a Reall Aood grandparents, for example . Again, a really good question, grandparents, for example . Again, a really good question, and grandparents, for example . Again, a really good question, and theres really good question, and theres two answers to that. At The Moment, thejcbi two answers to that. At The Moment, thejcb i were tasked quite narrowly to look at one aspect, which is the Health Benefits or risks in particular to children, not the wider arguments of my vaccine in children, you can protect adults Jc Vi. In fact, the cfos are going to look at the benefits, and again, theyve been told they should look at the benefits specifically on the harm to children, not if youre more likely to protect your Grannie Or Mum if you potentially are betty protected better protected. They Wont Look at that. Protected better protected. They Wont Look at that. Wont look at that. Trevor Clarke Sa s, Wont Look at that. Trevor Clarke Says. Whats Wont Look at that. Trevor Clarke Says, whats the Wont Look at that. Trevor Clarke Says, whats the Evidence Wont Look at that. Trevor Clarke Says, whats the evidence of Wont Look at that. Trevor clarke i says, whats the evidence of Cobit Latency and young people . This says, whats the evidence of Cobit Latency and young people . Latency and young people . This is the subject latency and young people . This is the subject of latency and young people . This is the subject of some latency and young people . This is the subject of some Debate Latency and young people . This is the subject of some debate still, l the subject of some debate still, and we are 18 months into This pandemic. So latency is the period in which, after you catch the virus, before you can transmit it to other people obviously its a very important figure because you want to know after youve been exposed to somebody on the train or in a school, how long have you got to self isolate when should you start a Self Isolation Period . Because theres some confusion about This latency period, we say you should start straightaway. At The Moment, the best guess from the cdc in the united states is that you start This show symptoms around five days after contact that can be as short as two days, and or most likely to be infectious before you show symptoms. So for adults and children, its likely to be a couple days after your exposed to the virus before you can pass It On, but wejust your exposed to the virus before you can pass It On, but we just arent sure. Can pass It On, but we ust arent sure. � ,. ,. , can pass It On, but we ust arent sure. � ,. ,. , sure. Its not long either way, is it . Debbie sure. 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Its important to say the rates are still very low, 20 30 people out of1 million that get This vaccine that suffer from This million that get This vaccine that sufferfrom This side million that get This vaccine that suffer from This Side Effect. Its not incredibly serious, most people bounce back quite quickly. But its one thing scientists are looking at to say, This is the Reason Why16 17 year olds really havent been after the second dose of the vaccine yet, though they may be in the future because there is concern over This potential Side Effect. In answer to that question, the reason that listeners1li year old, healthy, probably already got a single dose of the vaccine is because healthy children are already being offered it if they are living with someone who is at greater risk of a serious Covid Infection. In that situation, the advice is still to get two doses, and the reason why is because scientists say its the impact on the child again and the potential Mental Health Effects if they were to bring back covid and they were to infect a relative, and that relative where to get extremely sick, there would be an impact on that child, which is why the advice is to get both doses in that situation because it minimizes the chance of passing it minimizes the chance of passing It On. I know thats very complicated and its quite a strange argument to understand, but thats what the scientists are staying at The Moment. We what the scientists are staying at The Moment what the scientists are staying at The Moment. ~ ,. , ,. , The Moment. We probably dealt with This, michael The Moment. We probably dealt with This, michael asks, The Moment. We probably dealt with This, michael asks, will The Moment. We probably dealt with This, michael asks, will 1617 This, michael asks, will 16 17 year olds be offered a second dose, and if yes, when . I yearolds be offered a second dose, and if yes, when . And if yes, when . I ask the jcvi about This. And if yes, when . I ask the jcvi about This, and and if yes, when . I ask the jcvi about This, and they and if yes, when . I ask the jcvi about This, and they said and if yes, when . I ask the Jcvi L about This, and they said the plan is still to offer the second dose. They dont know which vaccine or when exactly, theyre waiting for more data about that Side Effect to come through before they make that decision. ,. , come through before they make that decision. ,. ,. , come through before they make that decision. ,. ,. , ,. , decision. Steve asks, does This mean we should revisit decision. Steve asks, does This mean we should revisit other decision. Steve asks, does This mean we should revisit other decisions we should revisit other decisions made by the government regarding the vaccine out of the public has seen the truth about its Effectiveness Cancelo thats quite a loaded question. What the scientists would say is question. What the scientists would saj ,. , question. What the scientists would Sa J ,. ,. , say is that the truth of the effectiveness say is that the truth of the effectiveness of say is that the truth of the effectiveness of the say is that the truth of the L Effectiveness of the vaccine say is that the truth of the effectiveness of the vaccine is already out there, they not revisiting This decision, its a new decision. But what steve is getting out there is that theres another decision looming possibly next week about Booster Doses for people who are a bit older, 50 year olds particularly. We are still waiting for that decision. And that is about the effectiveness of the vaccine and the effectiveness of the vaccine and the concerns that what is happening over time is at the vaccines are becoming less effective potentially against the virus. Now its not a huge amount of evidence for that in This country, in israel where they were a lot earlier but there Vaccine Roll out, there is some indication that the Pfizer Vaccine is becoming less effective over time but then they were vaccinating with a three Week Gap between doses. We were vaccinating within 8 12 weeks, so we just cant be sure in This country as more research is going on. Claudia asks, what does This mean for 12 15 Year Olds travelling abroad to countries such as germany which require quarantine for nonvaccinated travellers . Its nonvaccinated travellers . Its actually a nonvaccinated travellers . Its actually a really nonvaccinated travellers . It� s actually a really good Question And One that hadnt occurred to me before i looked at germany and that question is right, theres an interesting situation here where if you are under 12 and unvaccinated, you are under 12 and unvaccinated, you can enter germany as a tourist. But if you are over 12, according to the advice that ive got, you have to self isolate unless you are a resident of the country. So if you are going on holiday there, they could be a real problem at The Moment. And these are the kinds of issues that will be thrown up by the fact that weve made a different decision on vaccinations to other European Countries. Deals will have to be made, Transport Ministers will have to talk to each other to sort This out. , ,. , have to talk to each other to sort Thisout. ,. , This out. Finally, giles asks, as i am immunosuppressed, This out. Finally, giles asks, as i am immunosuppressed, my This out. Finally, giles asks, as i am immunosuppressed, my 14yearold am immunosuppressed, my 14 year old daughter has been offered a vaccine, whats the recommendation . So if you are immunosuppressed whats the recommendation . So if you are immunosuppressed at whats the recommendation . So if you are immunosuppressed at the whats the recommendation . So if you l are immunosuppressed at The Moment, the recommendation is for your daughter of 1a to get two doses of the vaccine, because you could bring it home and effectively pass It On to someone who is at severe risk of the disease. So again, This is different from the advice thats going on with 16 17 year olds, or at The Moment the advice is just one dose. Forthat at The Moment the advice is just one dose. For that group who are living with the immunosuppressed, the current advice as two doses. We covered a current advice as two doses. We covered a lot current advice as two doses. We covered a lot there. Jim, thanks. And in the next few minutes, well be speaking to adam finn, who sits on Thejoint Committee on vaccination and immunisation. So stay with us for that. Staying with the pandemic, latest figures show a further 121 people have died within 28 days of a positive Coronavirus Test here in the uk. There have also been 42,076 new cases reported over the past 24 hour period. The government is being urged to increase taxes to fund Social Care, amid reports the government is on the verge of signing off a rise of at least 1 in national insurance rates. The former health secretary, jeremy hunt, said the government must Bite The Bullet and raise taxes because the sums needed for both Nhs Funding and Social Care were eyewatering. But any increase in national Insurance Or Income tax would breach the commitment the conservatives made in their election manifesto. Lets get more on This from our political correspondent damian grammaticas. Yes, well we know that there has been much discussion going on behind the scenes in the government about reforming the social Care System, and particularly how to finance that. Now the agreement probably is that. Now the agreement probably is that This has to happen, but how to do it . The tricky thing here for the government is that they have a Manifesto Commitment from 2019 not to raise taxes or vat Income Tax, or national insurance but equally a pledge made by borisjohnson on his first day in office that he would tackle reforming Social Care. In it seems that in order to do that, hell have to break that Manifesto Commitment. We understand they could be close to an agreement on This, and that could come quite soon. But today the justice secretary, robert buckland, was asked about what he felt of the prospect of breaking that Manifesto Commitment. I think what we said in the manifesto about Social Care was that no one has a monopoly of wisdom about these issues. And the british public are sensible enough to know that when it comes to the issue of Social Care, weve got to find some way in which it will be adequately funded. Now as i said, im not going to start speculating as to exactly what that will entail. But having a grown up conversation with people is what we should be doing, and im glad to say that thats certainly happening in the context of Social Care. Now it seems that what theyre looking at here This potential national insurance contribution rise. It seems theyre not looking at an Income Tax rise, that would be at an Income Tax rise, that would be a very big step for a chancellor to make. People understand that that is Funding Health Services and reform but the question here then is, how fair would that be . The burdens then fall on younger people when the benefits of social Care Reform may well go to older people. 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Now of course they are difficult issues being they are difficult issues being hammered out here. One will be how to sell This out to the public, because This will still involve considerable costs. The second issue for the government is how to get This through the commons and get the backing of conservative mps, many of whom will be against any form of what they see as a tax rise. We believe an announcement could come This week, but we will wait to see. Damien, for The Moment, thank you very much. Joining me now is kari gerstheimer, the ceo of access Social Care, a charity which provides free legal advice to people with Social Care needs. Thank you forjoining us. What is your estimate for how much money is needed to really reform Social Care effectively . 50 needed to really reform Social Care effectively . Effectively . So i think that every ear, the effectively . So i think that every year, the funding effectively . So i think that every year, the Funding Gap effectively . So i think that every year, the Funding Gap grows effectively . So i think that every year, the Funding Gap grows and| effectively . So i think that every | year, the Funding Gap grows and i think the foundation has cited a figure of £8 billion Funding Gap by 2030. So we are talking about a lot of money. You know, weve been waiting a long time for an announcement on This issue. We will come to how announcement on This issue. We will come to how that announcement on This issue. We will come to how that Money Announcement on This issue. We will come to how that money gets announcement on This issue. We will come to how that money gets raised j come to how that money gets raised in a moment. But how concerned would you be that, given the backlog in the nhs for operations and procedures, treatments of various types because of the pandemic, would Take Priority over Social Care . Titer . Take priority over Social Care . Very concerned Take Priority over Social Care . Very concerned i Take Priority over Social Care . Very concerned. I mean, Take Priority over Social Care . Very concerned. I mean, the Take Priority over Social Care . Concerned. I mean, the backlogs are well documented, and i think Social Care has always been the poor cousin of the nhs. What i would like to highlight is that every day, millions of people are not getting the Social Care that they need and have a right to and thats really a national scandal. Access to Social Care, my charity provides free support to those with needs, and we see so many cases that are so distressing. Just the other day i was speaking to someone whos waited over ten months to get an assessment. Imagine if you had to wait ten months to see a This'>Doctor This is really no different. In terms of the options than for how This gets funded, what do you think the government could consider, and whats your preferred option . 50 i whats your preferred option . So i think the most whats your preferred option . Sr i think the most important thing is to recognise that we need a long term funding solution, we dont need a sticking plaster, and there needs to be enough money. So we talked about some pretty big figures its important that that money is made available for Social Care, and its important that it isntjust gobbled up important that it isntjust gobbled up by the nhs. I think that we recognise that Social Care could be needed by anybody, any of us could needed by anybody, any of us could need Social Care either for ourselves or a loved one. And some of us will be unfortunate enough to have catastrophic Care Costs in our lifetime. So if you look overseas to places like Germany Orjapan who have pooled the risk for many years, people have contributed towards the cost of that Social Care throughout their lifetime so that we are all protected from the risk of those catastrophic Care Costs. Protected from the risk of those catastrophic Care Costs. Jeremy hunt talked about catastrophic Care Costs. Jeremy hunt talked about making catastrophic Care Costs. Jeremy hunt talked about making sure catastrophic Care Costs. Jeremy hunt talked about making sure that catastrophic Care Costs. Jeremy hunt talked about making sure that the i talked about making sure that the young were not disproportionately having to pay for This cost. Whats your view on that, if its older people benefiting, they should be the ones who pay . The ones who pay . Firstly id like to oint the ones who pay . Firstly id like to point out the ones who pay . Firstly id like to point out that the ones who pay . Firstly id like to point out that social the ones who pay . Firstly id like to point out that Social Care the ones who pay . Firstly id like to point out that Social Care is. The ones who pay . Firstly id like | to point out that Social Care is the support that older and working age disabled people receive in either their community, within a Care Home to live as independently as possible. So it isntjust about older people, about half of the bill to Social Care is for working age disabled people. That being said, however, yes, we obviously have an ageing population, and the need for Social Care is increasing. And ideally, yes, the way that that should be funded needs to be fair and we need to take into consideration into generate intergenerational affairs. Consideration into generate intergenerational affairs. Thank you so much for intergenerational affairs. Thank you so much for your intergenerational affairs. Thank you so much for your time. Lets get more on the news that the Uks Vaccine advisory body has refused to give the green light to vaccinating healthy children aged 12 15 years old on Health Grounds alone. Im joined now by adam finn, a professor of paediatrics at the university of Bristol And Member of Thejoint Committee on vaccination and immunisation. Professor, thank you very much for joining us. What was the question then that you were tasked with answering . Then that you were tasked with answerin . ~ � ,. ,. , ~ answering . Well, weve been looking at This repeatedly answering . Well, weve been looking at This repeatedly over answering . Well, weve been looking at This repeatedly over the answering . Well, weve been looking at This repeatedly over the last answering . Well, weve been looking at This repeatedly over the last few. At This repeatedly over the last few months, and This advice is consistent with what weve said on the previous two occasions relating to healthy 12 15 Year Olds. Weve extended the recommendations for children with underlying Health Conditions who should be immunised in that Age Group, and who represent the large majority of children of This age who do get seriously ill and occasionally died of covid. But for the healthy children, the Risk Benefit Balance is really very uncertain and very tight. And normally what we do when we recommend vaccination for children is we see a very clear benefit that clearly outweighs any possible risk. And the absence of that clear blue water between those two, we prefer to advise the healthy children at The Moment should not be immunised. How much of a moral consideration did you make that if we were to vaccinate them, it would arguably be to protect other people rather than the children themselves . To protect other people rather than the children themselves . Thats not reall a the children themselves . Thats not really a moral the children themselves . Thats not really a moral argument, the children themselves . Thats not really a moral argument, its the children themselves . Thats not really a moral argument, its very i really a moral argument, its very much a part of what vaccines do. We look at the direct effects and indirect effects. Direct effects are benefits to the person getting the vaccine, and indirect effects are to everybody else. Most of our Vaccine Programmes do have those benefits, as well. But we do always want there to be a net benefit for the person being vaccinated, so that has to Take Priority. And in This case, the vaccines weve got at The Moment are not that great at interrupting transmission, particularly of the delta variant. So those indirect effects are relatively minor consideration anyway. But effects are relatively minor consideration anyway. But we are told that your consideration anyway. But we are told that your Decision Consideration anyway. But we are told that your decision will consideration anyway. But we are told that your decision will be told that your decision will be looked at again to see whether it could be tipped to the other Direction And Favour of them of them having the vaccine if it would protect school communities, if it meant fewer schoolchildren would be sent home. How confusing will that be for parents if thats the way it goes . I be for parents if thats the way It Noes . ~. , be for parents if thats the way It Noes . ~. ,. , goes . I think it would be very confusing. Goes . I think it would be very confusing. I goes . I think it would be very confusing, i agree. Goes . I think it would be very confusing, i agree. But goes . I think it would be very confusing, i agree. But we I Goes . I think it would be very i confusing, i agree. But we must bear in mind that we need to be honest with parents about This, they need to understand that in the end when we offer vaccines, its always a matter of personal choice, nobody is compelled to receive vaccines in This country. And they do really need to have the full information so they can make and informed choice. So i think the biggest harm thats occurred to children over the course of This pandemic relates to the disruption to their education and development, and its not much to do with the risk of covid itself, because that is a relatively mild illness of children. So those considerations do need to be taken into account, but we need to give an honest answer when it comes to the Health Benefits and risks around vaccination. Vaccination. And the risk of children of vaccination. And the risk of children of that vaccination. And the risk of children of that age vaccination. And the risk of children of that Age Group. Children of that Age Group developing Long Covid that wasnt persuasive for you either . The evidence on persuasive for you either . The evidence on long persuasive for you either . Tis evidence on Long Covid is beginning to come in now, its a very difficult condition to define. What we can say now is that there are many fewer cases of children than in adults, but they do occur. The symptoms that they experience are troubling and last usually around 23 troubling and last usually around 2 3 months, and usually resolve after that time. But the actual functional effects are relatively mild, and weve now got a really excellent Control Study thats reported on This. So its absurdly part of the consideration, but we must be realistic about the size of the problem and the ability of vaccines to impact on it. Professor, thanks very vaccines to impact on it. Professor, thanks very much vaccines to impact on it. Professor, thanks very much for vaccines to impact on it. Professor, thanks very much for Talking Vaccines to impact on it. Professor, thanks very much for talking to vaccines to impact on it. Professor, thanks very much for talking to us. Thanks very much for talking to us This afternoon separately thank you very much. A man who stabbed and wounded at least six people at a supermarket in New Zealand has been described by the countrys Prime Minister as a violent extremist. The Sri Lankan man was shot and killed by police. Jacinda ardern said he had been known to authorities. 0ur Correspondent Phil mercer reports. The attacker was under 24 Hour Surveillance when he began his rampage at a supermarket in auckland. It lasted less than a minute, but six people were wounded, some of them seriously. He stabbed This woman when she came out, i was going in. I went down to the other end, there was an old gentleman, european man, lying on the ground. Jacinda ardern, the New Zealand Prime Minister, said the assailant was shot dead by the police within 60 seconds of the attack starting. What happened today was despicable. It was hateful, it was wrong. It was carried out by an individual not a faith, not a culture, not an ethnicity. But an individual person who was gripped by ideology that is not supported here. Senior officers have insisted that Armed Police intervened as quickly as they could. The reality is that when you are surveilling someone on a 24 7 basis, it is not possible to be immediately next to them at all times. Staff intervened as quickly as they could and they prevented further injury in what was a terrifying situation. The man, a Sri Lankan national, arrived in New Zealand a decade ago, was identified as a national Security Threat in 2016, and had been monitored ever since. Despite his dangerous views, there was no legal reason for him to be detained. We have utilised every legal and Surveillance Power available to us to try and keep people safe from This individual. Many agencies and people were involved. This act of violence will stir painful memories in New Zealand of the deadly Mosque Attacks in christchurch in march 2019, when a gunman, a self confessed white supremacist, murdered 51 worshippers. Once again, the Nations Isolation has been no defence against extremism. Phil mercer, bbc news. Now its time for a look at the weather with nick miller. Itll turn a bit brighter and warmer for many of us over the weekend, especially if youre in england and wales. By sunday, theres a chance of actually seeing some rain in Northern Ireland and scotland. But for now, its as you wear, meaning theres a lot of clout out there. There are some sunny spells throughout the day and parts of wales in southern england. You can probably see the cloud increasing again overnight, but it still capable of developing some Drizzly Rain and places as it is at The Moment. 0vernight temperatures mainly into double figures. So tomorrow, you can bank on a lot of clout out there to start the day. Best place a few sunny spells coming through if youre in Northern Ireland, wales, southeast england, perhaps even wider into East Anglia later in the day. The breeze is still coming in from the north sea, so it really pegs temperatures down with the Cloud And Chance of drizzle, Eastern Scotland in northeast england, but along the coast may be just 15 celsius. Elsewhere up to around 20, but if you see some sunshine into the low 20s, a bit more sunshine and warmer on sunday. This is bbc news. The headlines. The governments scientific advisers say they wont recommend giving covid vaccines to all 12 to 15 year olds because there would only bea marginalgain. Experts say there was a lot to weigh up. If we are going to vaccinate our children, it has got to really be in their interest and not in a Societys Interest to vaccinate them. Ministers consider raising national insurance to fund social Care Reform, despite a conservative Election Promise not to increase taxes police shoot dead a violent extremist who stabbed and injured six people in New Zealand. Footballs world governing body, fifa, investigates last nights events in hungary where england players were racially abused during their a nil win. Plans to make Pet Theft a criminal offence in england, following a rise in the number of dogs stolen during the pandemic. Lets Ta Ke lets take a look at all the Sports News now from the Bbc Sport centre. Good evening. Chris woakes has been adding some key lower order runs for england as they look build on their lead against india on the second day of the fourth test at the oval. England were three wickets down overnight then lost Craig 0verton and Dawid Malan This morning to leave them in big trouble. 0llie Pope helped dig them out and he went on to pass 50 before guiding england into a first innings lead. He looked all set for a century but was bowled by Shardul Thakur on 81. But Chris Woakes has added some important late innings runs. He made a half century before england were bowled out for 290 a lead of 99. India have just got their second innings under way now, 11 without loss. Great britain won three more gold medals on friday as they passed the 100 Medal Mark at the tokyo paralympics. There was success for Canoeist Emma wiggs and athletes jonathan Broom Edwards and Owen Miller as our Sports Correspondent andy swiss reports. Celebrations dont get much side year. And the legs proving that when it comes to pedal power, she is the best in the business. The party when youre all charging clear in the Canoe Sprint to take a second paralympic gold. 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It was also Thumbs Up in the athletic star i here today with This. It was also. Thumbs up in the athletic star on Thumbs Up in the athletic Star 0n Miller as he wrapped up the Phone Book with a brilliant run to take the 1500 metres title. In the High Jump the 1500 metres title. In the High Jump meanwhile, Jonathan Broome edwards produced a leap of his life after silver in rialto that was gold in tokyo, the World Champion finally the paralympic champion. The british team have reached a milestone today, the 100 Medal Mark. They set a target at these games between 100140 target at these games between 100 140 metals, and still, they keep coming. Another one for the remarkable richard whitehead, but not the gold he is used to. The 200 metres Saw A Changing Of The Guard from the 45 year old to a 19 year old. South africas didnt walk until he was ten. Now hed beaten one of the all time greats. His wasnt the only extraordinary talent on show. China beats will bailey as britain lost out in the Table Tennis final. Then there was wheelchair tennis. Table tennis final. Then there was wheelchairtennis. If Table Tennis final. Then there was wheelchair tennis. If there is a Price Per shot of the year, well, Alfie Hewitt might have just won it. It wasnt enough or Hewitt And Gordon to win their doubles find out, but in defeat, they did at least have one of the days most dazzling moments. And he says, bbc news, tokyo. What a great shot that was. Fifa says its investigating racial abuse aimed at england players raheem Sterling And Jude bellingham during Thursdays World Cup qualifier in budapest. Prime Minister Borisjohnson has urged fifa to take strong action against those responsible. Piara powar is the Executive Director of the Football Against Racism In Europe network. Seeing scenes like that with Monkey Chants and black players being targeted is something that has been going on for a very, very long time in European Football and it is something that is now, you know, the time must be now to do more to tackle This and to make sure that everything that is possible to tackle This abuse is being done. And arsenal women have completed the signing of united states forward and two time World Cup Winner tobin heath. The 33 year old spent last season at Manchester United where she scored four goals in eight league games before an Ankle Injury and won a Bronze Medal with the us at This summers 0lympics. And join us for sportsday at 6. 30pm if you can. Well be at Manchester United reading, ahead of the first game of the new womens super league season. Dan evans is about to get under way against australias Alexei Popyrin in the third round of the us open. Follow that on the Bbc Sport website. That is all from me for now. Back to martin. Justin, thank you very much. The womens super league returns This evening and it could be the biggest and most exciting season yet. With a new Broadcast Deal in place allowing matches to be shown live on Bbc And Sky tv there will be more eyes on the wsl than ever before. It is expected to attract Record Audience figures and become one of the most watched Womens Sport leagues in the world. Joining me now is patricia gregory, former england player. 0ne One of the games pioneers who set P One of the games pioneers who set up a Team And League in the late 19605 up a Team And League in the late 1960s on womens the policy effectively banned. She went on to oversee the growth of the womens Football Association. Patricia, welcome. How exciting is This development, the fact that we will be able to watch at . Its development, the fact that we will be able to watch at . Be able to watch at . Its terribly excitina. Be able to watch at . Its terribly exciting i be able to watch at . 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I mean, we are talking now Mid 60s when we were on teams, women have played football on the British Isles since the 1880s, so its a very long time, and the 1921 banned, and lasted until the Womens Team was formed in the late 60s and we got lifted in 1969, so that was a long time that there where Womens Teams in existence, and they were trying their best. They did play, there were teams like manchester corinthians, they were all Playing Football despite not being technically allowed to. There have been times technically allowed to. There have been times when technically allowed to. There have been times when the technically allowed to. There have been times when the womens i technically allowed to. There have i been times when the Womens Teams, internationally, have been getting better than the mens, but do you still here and see resistance from men towards the Womens Game more than youd like . Than youd like . Well, thats obviously than youd like . Well, thats obviously still than youd like . Well, thats obviously still some than youd like . Well, thats i obviously still some resistance out there, but i think things like the last world cup, which was a couple of years ago, that is really helped the profile of the game. Girls are now able to play football and get paid for it, which was unthinkable, even, as i say, in my lifetime. Absolutely unthinkable because in the united games in the 60s and 70s, Everybody Committee officials and players where dipping into their own pockets to fund their activities. So it was and still is very much an amateur game but its lovely to see that the girls have got opportunities just like their brothers. Opportunities ust like their brothers. , opportunities ust like their brothers. Opportunities ust like their brothers. ,. Brothers. Can you see a time when it will be more brothers. Can you see a time when it will be more as brothers. Can you see a time when it will be more as an brothers. 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In terms of the way i that with the women are rewarded. , that with the women are rewarded. , how come i mean, that that with the women are rewarded. , how come i mean, that hasnt worked evenin how come i mean, that hasnt worked even in america, has a . And they have got a lot of success under their belts and the international team. I dont know. I think like everything and probably because it has taken us 50 years to get to This stage, i think it is a slow process, and i am, welcome at my great age, im not in any hurry to see it progress even more because its got to be so slow and steady, and i dont ever foresee mens teams against Womens Teams. I dont aspire to that, i wouldnt think that was a good thing. That was a good thing. Patricia greao , that was a good thing. Patricia gregory. Thank that was a good thing. Patricia gregory, thank you that was a good thing. Patricia gregory, thank you very that was a good thing. Patricia gregory, thank you very much | that was a good thing. Patricia i gregory, thank you very much for talking to us. Gregory, thank you very much for talking to va gregory, thank you very much for talking to na talking to us. Thank you. Pet abductions talking to us. Thank you. Pet abductions increase talking to us. Thank you. Pet abductions increase during i talking to us. Thank you. Pet | abductions increase during the pandemic. Figures show that 2000 dogs were reported stolen last year alone. Theft of pets is currently treated as a loss of property, but they are now plans to make the abduction of animals a criminal offence. 0ur Correspondent Duncan Kennedy reports. There are 12 Million dogs in the uk their status among many families going way beyond pet. Todays new figures show that 2,000 dogs were reported stolen last year. When your dogs are stolen, its devastating. For anybody thats had a dog stolen, theyll immediately know that anybody whos got a dog or a cat you know how much you loved them, they are priceless, irreplaceable members of our family. Its devastating, what happens to families. Yet until now, theres been no specific law to cover stolen pets. Today, the government says it is to change that, to make it a criminal offence to abduct a pet, as a way of recognising the emotional pain caused to owners. When you have the abduction and the theft of a pet, it is of a very different order, it causes huge trauma for the family who lose that loved pet, but also can cause trauma for the animal as well. So what were doing today is recognising that, creating a specific offence of Pet Abduction, and i think that will make it easier for us to record This crime, keep track of it, but also easier to prosecute it as well. It was a Government Task Force that came up with todays recommendations. As well as a new Pet Abduction offence, the government also wants to make Pet Microchip databases more accessible and pet owners would have to register additional details to improve the data surrounding pet ownership. This is an issue that dogs trust and many other charities have been calling on for many years, and we know Dog Ownersl are extremely worried about This issue at The Moment, and one dog stolen is too many, so we would like to see urgent L Action and the recommendations that have been outlined today to be taken forward as quickly as possible. The police say many dogs are stolen so thieves can make money from their puppies, which have been in huge demand during the pandemic. The aim of the new law is to make it clear that pets are more than just property. Duncan kennedy, bbc news. The headlines on bbc news. The governments scientific advisory say that benefit by vaccinating healthy 12 15 Year Olds but on the show a marginal gain. To healthy 1215 yearolds but on the show a marginal gain. Show a marginal gain. To consider takin a show a marginal gain. To consider taking a consideration show a marginal gain. To consider taking a consideration to show a marginal gain. To consider taking a consideration to fund taking a consideration to fund social Care Reform despite a promise to not increase taxes. Police shoot data in a violent extremist to stabbed and injured six people in New Zealand. Now on bbc news, Anna Smith presents the Film Review. Hello and welcome to the Film Review with me, Anna Smith. Im filling in for Mark Kermode to review This weeks releases