Of the United States. And Footballs WorldGoverning Body, fifa, investigates Last Nights events in hungary where England Players were racially abused during their 4 0 win. Good Afternoon And Welcome to bbc news. The foreign secretary, Dominic Raab, says hes had constructive discussions with his counterpart in pakistan about securing Safe Passage from afghanistan for people entitled to settle in The Uk. With kabul� s airport still closed, pakistan is crucial in the mission to help people flee afghanistan because the two nations share a land border. He told a News Conference in islamabad that britain was sending £30 Million of aid to help afghanistans neighbours cope with refugees. He also said Uk Experts were heading to the region to co ordinate efforts. This report from our diplomatic correspondent james landale. For anyone trying to flee afghanistan by land, this is the kind of Border Crossing TheyllFace Wire fences, armed guards and queues of refugees not going anywhere fast. This is to the east of kabul, one of main gateways to pakistan. In normal times, thousands cross it every day. Now, its just a trickle. Translation at present the taliban are just standing by waiting, theyre not settled yet. Once theyre in full power, then we will know if the situation will improve or not. This morning Dominic Raab visited the town to see for himself the reality that afghans and british nationals would face if they arrived here hoping to flee the taliban. There are already about Three Million afghan refugees in pakistan and after talks with his counterpart, the foreign secretary heard first hand the countrys concerns about adding to theiR Number. Can we block them . Well, we cant. Can we regulate them . Yes, we should. Are there risks . Yes, there are. Mr raab said britain would shoulder its responsibilities and announced £30 Million of humanitarian aid to provide Shelter And Sanitation for refugees. Well support those regional partners, particularly like pakistan who i imagine is very concerned about the risk of numbers coming across the border. We want to make sure we can support those partners in the Region Deal with that. As for the people of afghanistan, Dominic Raab said any aid would be channeled through charities and not the taliban. But he promised more dialogue with the group. Without it, he said, britain could not have evacuated more than 15,000 people from kabul airport. We need to try and forger stronger group of countries and a wider group of countries around those basic issues. More inclusive government, Safe Passage out, no Safe Haven for terrorism, the humanitarian lifeline that its in all sides interests to see allowed and preserved to preserve regional stability. But aid and refugees often have to cross by land and these mountains show how hard that may be. Diplomats say there is a real risk of a Refugee Crisis in afghanistan and its not clear yet what the outside world might do to avoid it. And much depends on how the taliban choose to govern. For now, the celebrations of victory continue, with more parades of seized american military equipment. James landale, bbc news. There are reports from afghanistan of heavy fighting around the Panjshir Valley between taliban and groups which oppose their takeover of the rest of the country. Its a rugged area to the north of the capital kabul, and is the last remaining area not under taliban control. The anti taliban fighters are a multiethnic group made up of militias and former afghan Security Force members, reportedly numbering in the thousands. Large numbers of taliban fighters are reported to have launched an assault on their positions. In the capital, kabul, theres still no sign of a new taliban government being announced. 0ur chief international Correspondent Lyse Doucet sent this update from The City. Days ago the taliban posted on Social Media saying that everything was ready now for a Grand Ceremony to introduce the new government, but ever since then, every day, including today, we are told by taliban spokesperson that today will not be the delay. They are not saying why theres a delay, but we understand one of the big reasons is that they have been boasting that they now control more of afghanistan than they did when they were in power in the 1990s. But this time, there is still this resistance coming from the Panjshir Valley, one of the areas with the biggest of legend is said to be Holding Out, commanded by a 32 year old son of the legendary commander. He has said he is willing to negotiate with the taliban, but there is no sign of thatis taliban, but there is no sign of that is working and in the last 2a hours, both sides are reporting heavy fighting, both sides are reporting casualties and i would imagine, as always in these battles, it has been thus for many years in afghanistan, there is a bit of exaggeration and fabrication. But a big question is how long can this very defied resistance hold out against a very defiant taliban . Here in kabul, the taliban are still struggling to get the capital itself on its feet. Technical experts are being brought in to try to get the flights going at kabul international airport. We here at the United Nations has resumed some of its humanitarian aid flights going to the northern city, and a southern city of kandahar where airfields are now operating, but there are still massive queues at the Bank Branches which are open here. And still a great deal of uncertainty amongst afghans, of what kind of an islamic government will emerge and what kind of rules and regulations will govern their lives. A man who stabbed and wounded at least six people at a supermarket in New Zealand has been described by the countrys Prime Minister as a violent extremist. The Sri Lankan man was shot and killed by police. Jacinda ardern said he had been known to authorities. 0ur Correspondent Phil mercer reports. The attacker was under 24 Hour Surveillance when he began his rampage at a supermarket in auckland. It lasted less than a minute, but six people were wounded, some of them seriously. He stabbed this woman when she came out, i was going in. I went down to the other end, there was an old gentleman, european man, lying on the ground. Jacinda ardern, the New ZealandPrime Minister, said the assailant was shot dead by the police within 60 seconds of the attack starting. What happened today was despicable. It was hateful, it was wrong. It was carried out by an individual, not a faith, not a culture, not an ethnicity. But an individual person who was gripped by ideology that is not supported here. Senior officers have insisted that Armed Police intervened as quickly as they could. The reality is that when you are surveilling someone on a 24 7 basis, it is not possible to be immediately next to them at all times. Staff intervened as quickly as they could and they prevented further injury in what was a terrifying situation. The man, a Sri Lankan national, arrived in New Zealand a decade ago, was identified as a national Security Threat in 2016 and had been monitored ever since. Despite his dangerous views, there was no legal reason for him to be detained. We have utilised every legal and Surveillance Power available to us to try and keep people safe from this individual. Many agencies and people were involved. This act of violence will stir painful memories in New Zealand of the deadly Mosque Attacks in christchurch in march 2019, when a gunman, a self confessed white supremacist, murdered 51 worshippers. Once again, the Nations Isolation has been no defence against extremism. Phil mercer, bbc news. Raffaello pantucci is from the royal united services institute. He described how difficult it was for anti terror investigators to keep tabs on all individuals who pose a threat. It is a huge problem, frankly. This is really becoming the very sharp end of the Terrorist Threat that you see in the west in particular. There are lots of similarities in some ways to this attack to the one that We Saw in the united kingdom in streatham in february 2020, where an individual who was under close surveillance by the authorities, someone they were very worried about, went into a shop and essentially picked up a knife and started stabbing at the people around him. And that is pretty much exactly what we have seen just happen here in auckland, though of course there are some key differences around the two individual cases. And, you know, We Saw a similar attack earlier this year in germany where another individual who was someone. That person was not necessarily a concern to the Security Forces, but he launched an attack in very much the same way. This is kind of the problem. You have these very volatile individuals, often isolated, often clearly radicalised and people that the Security Services are aware of and are concerned about, but unless they commit an offence that mandates the Criminaljustice System getting involved, arresting them and putting them in prison for a long period of time, which therefore means that they can be watched in that context, it becomes very difficult for the Security Forces. You know, if the Person Isjust maybe accessing stuff online but they are not sure about it, if he is just apparently quite a volatile individual but doesnt have any kind of immediate weapons to hand, it becomes very difficult for them to be able to stop this person before launching an attack without having to really walk the Criminaljustice System in such a way that we might ultimately be breaching broader civil liberties. The government is being urged to increase taxes to fund Social Care, amid reports that its on the verge of approving a rise of at least 1 in the national insurance rate. The former Health Secretaryjeremy Hunt said the government must Bite The Bullet and raise taxes because the sums needed for both Nhs Funding and Social Care were, as he put it, Eye Watering. But any increase in national Insurance Or Income tax would breach the commitment the conservatives made in their election manifesto. Jonathan blake has more. It is not talking about it in public but it is pretty clear that there is a discussion on going at the heart of government between the Prime Minister, the chancellor and the Health Secretary about how to pay for what everyone accepts is a much needed reform of the social Care System in england. And it appears they are ready to go against appears they are ready to go against a Manifesto Commitment not to raise national insurance, vat or Income Tax in order to pay for that. What will be a hugely expensive and costly reform as well as funding the nhs in tandem along with that to the tune of perhaps something in excess of £5 billion to allow it to attempt to clear the backlog caused by the coronavirus pandemic. This is Something Borisjohnson promised to do on the first day he became Prime Minister to fix the problem of Social Care won several. The problem he seems to be faced with is the only viable way of doing that involves him breaking that Manifesto Commitment. The debate is under way about whether this is a wise move or not. As you say, the former Health Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, has had his say and has said that while national insurance is it not the best or fairest way to do it because It Disproportionally hits younger earners in society, a Tax Rise is no doubt needed. Well, i think the answer is a Health And Care premium, something that could help relieve the pressure on the nhs in the short term, but then move into the transformation of the social Care System we need in the more medium term. It isa it is a Tax Increase, do not think we should it is a Tax Increase, do not think we should call it is a Tax Increase, do not think we should call it it is a Tax Increase, do not think we should call It Anything other than we should call It Anything other than that, but the reason i call it a health than that, but the reason i call it a health Care Premium is i think it is a better a health Care Premium is i think it is a better route than national insurance is a better route than national insurance which is not paid by working insurance which is not paid by working pensioners. Ithink insurance which is not paid by working pensioners. I think because older working pensioners. I think because older people are the biggest beneficiaries of this extra investment, it is fair they should make investment, it is fair they should make a investment, it is fair they should make a contribution. Any investment, it is fair they should make a contribution. Investment, it is fair they should make a contribution. Any Tax Rise is alwa s a make a contribution. Any Tax Rise is always a hard make a contribution. Any Tax Rise is always a hard sell make a contribution. Any Tax Rise is always a hard sell and make a contribution. Any Tax Rise is always a hard sell and this make a contribution. Any Tax Rise is always a hard sell and this will make a contribution. Any Tax Rise is always a hard sell and this will be l always a hard sell and this will be harder still if at borisjohnson, because it will involve him potentially breaking that Manifesto Commitment that was made before the 2019 General Election and it will be a hard sell too it not only to the public, many of whom will pay large amounts still, even if they Tax Rises brought in to reform Social Care, pay large amounts towards care if it is needed themselves individually, but to conservative mps for whom Raising Taxes is largely repellent. TheJustice Secretary, robert buckland, was asked on Bbc Breakfast this morning how he felt about going against that Manifesto Commitment. I how he felt about going against that Manifesto Commitment. How he felt about going against that Manifesto Commitment. I think what we said in the Manifesto Commitment. I think what we said in the manifesto Manifesto Commitment. I think what we said in the manifesto about we said in the manifesto about sociai we said in the manifesto about Social Care we said in the manifesto about Social Care is no one has a monopoly of wisdom Social Care is no one has a monopoly of wisdom about these issues and the british of wisdom about these issues and the british public are sensible enough to know british public are sensible enough to know that when it comes to the issue to know that when it comes to the issue of to know that when it comes to the issue of Social Care, we have to find issue of Social Care, we have to find some issue of Social Care, we have to find some way in which it will be adequately funded. As i said, i will not start adequately funded. As i said, i will not start speculating as to precisely what that will entail, but having precisely what that will entail, but having a precisely what that will entail, but having a grown up conversation with people having a grown up conversation with people is having a grown up conversation with people is what you should be doing and im people is what you should be doing and im glad to see that that it certainly and im glad to see that that it certainly is happening in the context certainly is happening in the context of Social Care. 30 certainly is happening in the context of Social Care. Context of Social Care. So a grownup context of Social Care. So a grownup Conversation Context of Social Care. So a i grownup conversation about context of Social Care. So a grownup conversation about a grown up conversation about a sustainable Funding Model for the long term, as Thejustice Secretary was saying there, code for this is going to be difficult and it is going to be difficult and it is going to be costly and it is going to hit people One Way or another in their pockets. Borisjohnson are perhaps in the coming days, once the details are finalised, although we are told that no decisions have been made yet, will be preparing his arguments in order to make the case for a Tax Rise which he will say is neededin for a Tax Rise which he will say is needed in order to reform Social Care sooner rather than later. Lets talk more about this with an economist from the institute for fiscal studies, stuart adam. Thank you very much Forjoining Us. First, there is concern, isnt there, from various groups, including the labour party, about how fair it is to raise national insurance to pay for this, because it does disproportionately hit lower earners, young people and businesses, do you think that is a legitimate concern . Legitimate concern . Yes, so it certainly hits legitimate concern . Yes, so it certainly hits somewhat legitimate concern . Yes, so it certainly hits somewhat lower| certainly hits somewhat lower earners than Income Tax does, because the threshold for paying national insurance has not been raised in the way the Income Tax allowance has been raised a lot over the past ten years or so. Probably the past ten years or so. Probably the biggest concern that has been raised is the one you heard Jeremy Hunt raising earlier is that national insurance is only paid on the earnings of people up to State Pension Age and so the older workers and older people do not bear any of the burden of a national Insurance Rise in the way they would with some other taxes and given that they are going to be the main beneficiaries of extra spending on Social Care, there is at least an argument for saying maybe the extra tax should come at least partly from that same group. You do not have to do that, we do not always make the same people pay taxes who are going to receive the services they have paid for, but it is definitely a start and a choice to make relatively younger sections of society to pay a Tax Increase spending on largely an Older Section of society. Just Tax Increase spending on largely an Older Section of society. Older section of society. Just to net an Older Section of society. Just to get an idea Older Section of society. Just to get an idea of Older Section of society. Just to get an idea of what Older Section of society. Just to get an idea of what this Older Section of society. Just to get an idea of what this would l get an idea of what this would actually mean, in real terms, what is difference with these changes make to the average earner� s Pay Packet . It make to the average earners pay acket . ,. , , make to the average earners pay acket . , , ,. ,. , packet . It obviously depends on how the Can Packet . It obviously depends on how they can arise packet . It obviously depends on how they can arise. What packet . It obviously depends on how they can arise. What they packet . It obviously depends on how they can arise. What they have packet . It obviously depends on how they can arise. What they have been | they can arise. What they have been talking about is either 1 or 2 Raise Increase on a national insurance contributions, so if you think roughly speaking at the first £10,000 a year is exempt, if you are on a £20,000, that is at 1 of that extra £10,000, so talking about say £100 a yearfrom extra £10,000, so talking about say £100 a year from that, but also of course it may be that your employer is asked to pay an extra 1 as well and it may be that ultimately gets felt by workers if employers do not then increase the pay by as much. {iii then increase the pay by as much. Of course, Social Care and how to pay for it is one of the most pressing questions in society at The Moment. All of this, is itjust a bit of tinkering around the edges . Isnt there something far more vast that is needed to actually cover the costs that Mr Hunt described as Eye Watering . If costs that Mr Hunt described as Eye Waterin . ,. , costs that Mr Hunt described as Eye Waterin . I. ,. , ~ costs that Mr Hunt described as Eye Waterin . ,. ,. ,. , watering . If you look ust as the social Care Watering . If you look ust as the Social Care aspect, watering . If You Lookjust as the Social Care aspect, putting watering . If You Lookjust as the Social Care aspect, putting aside for The Moment the nhs, there is of question to how more resources are needed. There seems to be widespread consensus that more is needed. The figure that is often quoted is £10 Billion, certainly Sir Andrew Dilnot who did a review of Social Care, said 10 Billion p will be about the amount needed to move from a Care System we should all be ashamed of 201 we can all proud of, so if you take that, that might be a reasonable guide. £10 Billion is a fair chunk of money, but it would make a significant difference to the Social Care we could receive a bearing in mind some of the concerns we touch upon earlier about how this might affect some areas of might affect some areas of society, what do you might affect some areas of society, what do you think might affect some areas of society, what do you think would might affect some areas of society, what do you think would be might affect some areas of society, what do you think would be the what do you think would be the fairest way to fund this . I do what do you think would be the fairest way to fund this . I do not think i fairest way to fund this . I do not think i want fairest way to fund this . I do not think i want to fairest way to fund this . I do not think i want to come fairest way to fund this . I do not think i want to come off fairest way to fund this . I do not think i want to come off the fairest way to fund this . I do not | think i want to come off the fence to sate the furnace way, venice is to sate the furnace way, venice is to some extent in the eye of the beholder. Come off the fence in fairness. You could increase Income Tax or vat which would apply to all ages, you could even target those specifically over State Pension Age to private pensions or bring back the option of doing something through Inheritance Tax and accusations of the so called death tax, but really, i think different people will take different views on what is a fair way to pay for this. Thank you for your time. Footballs world government body, fifa, is investigating racial abuse by hungary fans towards England Players during last Nights World Cup qualifier in budapest. England condemned the abuse as completely unacceptable and borisjohnson has urged fifa to take strong action against supporters who made monkey noises and threw objects onto the pitch during the game, which england won 4 0. Natalie pirks report. The atmosphere was hostile from the very start in the puskas arena. Booing. The hungarian federation pleaded supporters not to boo. There is quite a bit of booing. Please not to boo Englands Antiracism Gesture of taking the knee fell on deaf ears. But as the night grew on, it got much worse. England players were pelted with plastic cups and some faced monkey chants from the stands by some of the so called ultras. I dont think our players can do anything more than they have done over the last two or three years in trying to get the right messages out, take the right stands, and its for other people to protect them, its for me to protect them in the main, but for the authorities to protect them as well. Many feel racist Fans Shouldnt have been there in the first place. Hungary were handed a three Match Ban by uefa, European FootballsGoverning Body, for Racism And Homophobia this summer. But because last Nights Game was a World Cup Qualifier, under fifa, the Ban Hadnt kicked in. This was a match that really should have been played behind closed doors. Hungary have been sanctioned for three matches with one suspended by uefa following events at the euros. Reallyjust five or six weeks ago. And then to see them playing a full House Match against a big racially diverse team like england was disappointing. This morning, in budapest, there was sadness at what happened. The racism is very much a problem here in hungary. Maybe they need to travel more around the world and see how other people behave. A report containing Video Evidence of the racism is now with fifa, but hungarys Foreign Minister dismissed the atmosphere Last Night as simply hostile, and similar to what italy faced at wembley in the european final. England does have its own problem with racist abuse in football, but for hungary, more sanctions are surely heading its way. Natalie pirks, bbc news. LaTest estimates of the number of people infected with covid 19 in The Uk based on the office for national Statistics Survey show a sharp increase in scotland. Its estimated that infections have doubled there in the last week 1 in 75 people would Test positive for the virus in scotland, the highest since records began there last autumn. Compared to the previous week, rates have remained level in england and wales and have decreased in Northern Ireland. The R Numberfor England has fallen slightly, according to the laTest estimate published this afternoon. Government scientists say that the current R Number for england is around 1, ranging from 0. 9 to 1. 1. If the R Number is above 1 the epidemic is growing and if below1 it is likely to be shrinking. An R Number of1 means on average every infected person is passing the virus on to one other person. The us president Joe Biden claims the destruction caused by Hurricane Ida and its aftermath proves that the Climate Crisis is here. Ida had been downgraded to a storm, but Flash Flooding in the North East of the United States is known to have killed at least 45 people. In New York, people drowned while trapped in Basement Apartments and cars, as simonjones reports. The destruction in the words of the us president , Joe Biden is everywhere. Its a matter of Life And Death, we are all in this together, he said. Emergencies have been declared in newjersey and in New York. Dramatic rescues for people stuck in their cars. The governor said the Heavens Opening had brought Niagara Falls levels of water to The City. Hundreds of people were stranded on subway trains. Up above, the streets were quickly flooded. At some points we were experiencing three to four inches of rain in one hour, causing all the flooding and people getting trapped in their cars. More of an issue was people getting trapped in their basements where they live, and thats how a lot of people died as well. In pennsylvania, normal ways of getting around had to be abandoned, replaced by boats. I woke up to a lot of people banging on my door and just a lot of noises in my house, basically, coming from my basement. And i went downstairs and saw about six feet of water in my basement, and opened the front door and noticed the entire street was about four or five feet high with all the cars submerged in water. Pretty crazy. The record amounts of rainfall in such a short space of time, caused by the remnants of Hurricane Ida, seemed to take everyone by surprise. We were staying at the residence inn, when the waters rose much higher and faster than we anticipated. And we found ourselves trapped. Climate experts say change is needed. We have 20th century or even 19th century cities in the United States, and a Brave New21st Ce Ntury climate. So there is a mismatch between what we have built in our Cities Today and the Climate Reality that face modern cities. In california, it is fires rather than flooding that are causing chaos. The past few days of Hurricane Ida, the wildfires in the west and the unprecedented Flash Floods in New York and newjersey is yet another reminder that these extreme storms and the Climate Crisis are here. The time to act, he says, is now. But keeping a lid on future Destruction Wont be easy. Simon jones, bbc news. Now its time for a look at the weather with louise lear. Good afternoon. Summer 2021 has been pretty disappointing for southern and eastern england. Its been rather cloudy and at times, it has been often wet. So, as you can see, this will come as welcome news, im sure. Beautiful, clear blue Sky And Sunshine in hampshire. Still quite a lot of cloud around generally today, but the best of the sunshine is certainly across southern england and that cloud is breaking up and pushing that little bit further north as we go through the remainder of the afternoon. Still a little disappointing along exposed east coasts and here, noticeably cooler, but as we go through the night, tonight, we see more cloud returning. Thick enough for a spot or two of drizzle in places, may be a little bit of mist and for forming under those clear skies towards the South And West but its going to be a relatively mild starting saturday. A quiet start to saturday, risk of a few showers through the channel isles, perhaps just across the cornish foot as well. Slowly improving as we go through the day, The Cloud will thin and break, we will see some sunshine coming through for some, and temperatures peaking at 22. Hello, this is bbc news. The headlines. The foreign secretary, Dominic Raab, holds talks in pakistan, where more than 3 Million afghan refugees are already living. Police shoot dead a violent extremist who stabbed and injured six people in New Zealand. Ministers consider raising national insurance to fund Social Care reform, despite a conservative Election Promise not to increase taxes. At least 45 people are now known to have been killed in devastating Flash Floods in the North East of the United States. And Footballs WorldGoverning Body, fifa, investigates Last Nights events in hungary, where England Players were racially abused during their 4 0 win. Sport now, and a full round up from the Bbc Sport centre. Good afternoon, im chetan pathak, with your laTest sports news. Great britain have passed the 100 Medal Mark at this years tokyo paralympics. Three golds on day 10. World tim Highjump Champion, Jonathan Broom edwards, a Silver Medallist in rio, went one better this time by clearing 2. 10 metres with his second attempt for gold. 0wen miller, making his paralympic debut, put in a strong final lap to win the t201500 metres in three minutes 54. 57 seconds, ahead of russian alexander rabotnitskii. And canoeist Emma Wiggs was victorious in the Vl2 200m event, the first time that this particular canoe has been raced at the paralympics. She won gold when Para Canoe made its debut in rio. I have put my family on that bridge when i have put my family on that bridge when Doing Visualisation is. | when Doing Visualisation is. Paddled when Doing Visualisation is. I paddled my heart out to get to them and it was just. Paddled my heart out to get to them and it wasjust. 0verwhelming bit overwhelming when i got there. Its been another fascinating days play so far at the oval where england have been fighting back after losing two early wickets on day two of the fourth Test against india. England started the day 53 for 3, but Nightwatchman Craig 0verton and Dawid Malan were both removed quickly by umesh yadav. Butjonny Bairstow And Ollie pope put on 89 for sixth wicket as england fought back but a short while ago Mohammed Siraj dismissed bairstow for 37. Popes still there with a half Century England are 7a for 6 trailing by 17 runs. Theres full commentary on Bbc Radio 5 live sports extra and coverage on the Bbc Sport Website. Lewis hamilton was fasTest in a shortened first practice at the Dutch Grand Prix, but hes just broken down in the second session, losing powerjust after the start. The first session was interrupted for nearly a0 minutes when sebastian vettel� s Aston Martin stopped on track with a suspected engine failure. Running resumed with only six minutes remaining and hamilton edged out title rival max verstappen. This weekend is the first time F1 Cars have raced at the historic Zondvoort Track since 1985. The Fall Out has started from last Nights World Cup qualifier in budapest where England Players raheem Sterling And Jude bellingham were racially abused by a section of hungary fans. Fifa says its investigating and prime Minister Borisjohnson has urged the world Governing Body to take strong action against those responsible to ensure, in his words, that this kind of disgraceful behaviour is eradicated from the game for good. England manager Gareth Southgate gave his reaction after the match. I dont think our players can do anything more than they have done over the last two or three years in trying to get the right messages out, take the right stance and it is for other people to protect them. It is for me to protect them in the main but for the authorities to protect them as well. They should not have to be subjected to any form of racism. And arsenal women have completed the signing of United States forward and two time World Cup Winner tobin heath. The 33 year old spent last season at Manchester United, where she scored four goals in eight league games before an Ankle Injury and won a Bronze Medal with the us at this summers 0lympics. The womens super league starts this evening and is expected to attract Record Audience figures and become one of the most watched Womens Sport leagues in the world. You can get all the Build Up on the Bbc Sport Website. Thats bbc. Co. Uk sport. The foreign secretary Dominic Raab says hes had Constructive And Cordial discussions with his counterpart in pakistan, about securing Safe Passage out of afghanistan for people entitled to settle in The Uk. He told a News Conference in islamabad that the two countries had a shared interest in supporting a stable and peaceful future for afg hanistan. And he said The Uk was sending £30 Million of aid to countries in the region, to help them deal with an anticipated surge of refugees. The bedrock, the basis of the Uk Pakistan relationship is very strong. Like his excellency, The Uk has the desire and the will to take it to the next level. We also have a very clear and shared interest in the future of afghanistan. After the kabul airlift, we evacuated over 15,000 people to The Uk which was unprecedented for modern times, certainly for The Uk, and are working together to secure Safe Passage for those who have not yet got out of afghanistan, whether they be british nationals of those who have worked for us. It was important to get the opportunity and im grateful to the government in helping making this possible to see the situation for myself on the Ground And Talk to people on the ground and really understand at that level. As for The Uk, we are very mindful of the situation for afghanistans neighbours. We will be shouldering a humanitarian responsibilities and have increased our aid to afghanistan this year to £286 million and will also support those countries who face the greaTest demands for those who may be displaced in the weeks ahead. Pakistans Foreign Minister, Shah Mahmood Qureshi, said his country would have to coexist with the taliban. We are neighbours, we have to coexist. Geography ties us together. So our Approach has to be somewhat different. Realistic, as the foreign secretary said. There is a new reality thats come about, and what we have said, we have been, while the negotiations were on in doha and, you know, we facilitated the peace process, it came to a sort of conclusion. You know, there was a stalemate, but what we said was we have no favourites. Now, we have learnt over the years that afghanistan is a country which comprises of different ethnic groups. Taliban represents one. And a prominent one, but there are others, and that is why we have said it is in your interest, as neighbours and friends and well wishers, to adopt an inclusive Approach. An alleged member of the notorious Isis Group that were dubbed The Beatles by their captives, because of their british accents, has pleaded guilty in a hearing in a us court. Alexanda kotey, originally from The Uk, had been charged with conspiring to torture and behead hostages in syria. Acting us attorney, raj parekh, spoke at a News Conference after the guilty plea. Contrary to the propaganda perpetuated by isis, we have given Alexanda Kotey the opportunity to face justice. Kotey has been afforded Due Process and, in the face of overwhelming evidence, he made the independent decision to plead guilty to his crimes. Thejustice, Fairness And Humanity that this defendant received in the United States stand in stark contrast to the cruelty, inhumanity and indiscriminate violence touted by the Terrorist Organisation that he espoused. 0ur washington correspondent, nomia iqbal, has more on the background to this case. This goes all the way back to 2014, when isis were making headlines due to the atrocities they were committing, they were pushing out those awful propaganda videos, where they could be seen killing western hostages. Now, one of the men Accused Of Murder is Alexanda Kotey. He was brought to the us last year to face murder charges. Hes Accused Of Murdering four americans, two of them journalists, called James Foley and steven sotloff, and theirfamilies were in court to hear kotey� s plea. And hes also connected with the deaths of two british men, alan Henning And David haines. Now, in court, he accepted the charges and the judge said he is now cooperating with prosecutors, which means he could be telling them what happened, what he did, and, crucially, where the victims are buried. Now, there is another man who was facing trial alongside him, a man called El Shafee El sheikh, but hes not indicated if he has taken a plea deal. Now, both men do Face Sentencing next year. They wont face the death penalty, that was part of the agreement that the us made with The Uk in order to extradite them in the first place. The maximum penalty they face is life in jail. One in 10 buy now pay later shoppers have been chased by debt collectors, according to the charity citizens advice. It says the rapid expansion of the service has left shoppers unprotected and ill informed, but companies who use it defend it as a cheaper alternative to credit cards. 0ur Consumer affairs correspondent, colletta smith, has this report. Its easy, its fast and its everywhere. Since buy now pay later options arrived in The Uk, lots of us have been clicking those buttons to spread the payments. Normally, you split the bill over a couple of months with no added interest, but missed payments do have consequences, asjordan found out. Hes 23, and spent about £300 on clothes with clearpay, klarna and laybuy. But then things went wrong and his accounts were passed over to Debt Collection agencies. At that time i was in a financiaL Situation where, 0k, i have this first instalment that i can pay now, im going to get paid next week, i can pay the second instalment, im going to pay the next week, third instalment, i lose myjob and then im straight in debt for a while. Citizens advice say that none of the leading retailers websites clearly warned people that they could be referred to debt collectors, or that they could be charged extra at that point. The charitys laTestResearch Shows buy now, pay later shoppers were charged £39 million in late fees in the past year. The problem with the buy now, pay later sector is that its grown incredibly quickly, so it trebled in size in 2020 alone. And this means you have effectively an unregulated sector, with lots and lots of potential problems for consumers. So wed like to see more prominence given to the warnings at checkout about the risks of perhaps paying late fees or the risks of being subject to Debt Collection. We like to see better treatment of those who actually fall into difficulty, as you have in other areas where people fall behind on payments in other sectors. So strong regulation is incredibly important, its desperately needed and needs to be brought in as quickly as possible. The government say they are already planning to bring in regulation to protect consumers, but they also say that by now, pay later can be a helpful way to manage your finances. Regulation cant come soon enough the debt charities, who say they are seeing more and more people turn to them for help. Coletta smith, bbc news. If youve built up a stash of loose change during the last year or so, you are not alone. Uk residents are hoarding around £50 million, mainly in coppers. Thats according to the banking trade body, uk finance, which says were hanging onto our coins for three times longer than we used to, partly because of the pandemic. Its recommending that we get the money back in circulation by donating it to charity. The headlines on bbc news. The foreign secretary, Dominic Raab, holds talks in pakistan, where more than 3 Million afghan refugees are already living. Police shoot dead a violent extremist who stabbed and injured six people in New Zealand. Ministers consider raising national insurance to fund Social Care reform, despite a conservative Election Promise not to increase taxes. People who steal pets in england are to face tougher penalties. Pet abductions increased during the pandemic. Figures show 2,000 dogs were reported stolen last year alone. Theft of pets is currently treated as a loss of property, but there are now plans to make the abduction of animals a criminal offence. 0ur CorrespondentDuncan Kennedy reports. Barking. There are 12 Million dogs in The Uk. Their status among many families going way beyond pet. Todays new figures show that 2,000 dogs were reported stolen last year. When your dogs are stolen, it is devastating. For anybody who has had a dog stolen, they will immediately know. For anybody who has got a dog or a cat, you know how much you love them, they are priceless, irreplaceable members of our family. Its devastating, what happens to families. Yet until now, theres been no specific law to cover stolen pets. Today, the government says it is to change that, to make it a criminal offence to abduct a pet, as a way of recognising the emotional pain caused to owners. When you have the abduction and the theft of a pet, it is of a very different order, it causes huge trauma for the family who lose that loved pet, but also can cause trauma for the animal as well. So what were doing today is recognising that, creating a specific offence of Pet Abduction, and i think that will make it easier for us to record this crime, keep track of it, but also easier to prosecute it as well. It was a Government Task Force that came up with todays recommendations. As well as a new Pet Abduction offence, the government also wants to make Pet Microchip databases more accessible and pet owners would have to register additional details to improve the data surrounding pet ownership. This is an issue that dogs trust and many other charities have been calling on for many years, and we know Dog Ownersl are extremely worried about this issue at The Moment, and one dog stolen is too many, so we would like to see urgent L Action and the recommendations that have been outlined today to be taken forward as quickly as possible. The police say many dogs are stolen so thieves can make money from their puppies, which have been in huge demand during the pandemic. The aim of the new law is to make it clear that pets are more than just property. Duncan kennedy, bbc news. President Joe Biden has warned of a Climate Crisis, after Flash Flooding has hit the North East of the United States. The storm brought severe flooding to New York and neighbouring pennsylvania. This is the state capital, philadelphia, where Rescue Operations have been underway. There are reports that parts of the Schuylkill River rose more than 3. 5 feet in eight hours. Joining me now is adam theil, the Fire Commisionerfor Philadelphia fire department. The Fire Commisionerfor thanks the Fire Commisioner for for joining thanks the Fire CommisionerforForjoining Us. What is the situation thanks Forjoining Us. What is the situation right now . Situation right now . Thankfully, Floodwaters Situation right now . Thankfully, floodwaters have situation right now . Thankfully, floodwaters have receded. Situation right now . Thankfully, floodwaters have receded. We L Situation right now . Thankfully, floodwaters have receded. We reached a peak of 16. 5 feet, the floodwaters have receded. We reached a peak of 16. 5feet, the record floodwaters have receded. We reached a peak of 16. 5 feet, the record set in 1896 was 17, normal flow is about 5. 5, very significant historic Flooding Event for us here in philadelphia. In Flooding Event for us here in philadelphia. Flooding event for us here in philadelhia. ,. ,. , ~ philadelphia. 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Is there anything more that cleanUp And Recovery. Is there anything more that could cleanUp And Recovery. Is there anything more that could havel cleanUp And Recovery. Is there anything more that could have been done to be prepared and planned for this or was it a case of being caught Off Guard by the volume on brain, the volume of water . We caught offguard by the volume on brain, the volume of water . We are siml brain, the volume of water . We are simply not brain, the volume of water . We are simply not built. Brain, the volume of water . We are simply not built, the brain, the volume of water . We are simply not built, The City brain, the volume of water . We are simply not built, The City is brain, the volume of water . We are simply not built, The City is not simply not built, The City is not built to accommodate that amount of water, it has not happened in more than a century, the Weather Service Prediction ended 15 or 16 feet because this has never happened before. Thankfully we had Rescue Teams on standby, we were able to get many, many rescues and really take care of people. We have no reports, that said, if this is going to become the norm, we have quite a few years ahead of us. Few years ahead of us. Absolutely and there are few years ahead of us. Absolutely and there are warnings few years ahead of us. Absolutely and there are warnings this few years ahead of us. Absolutely and there are warnings this will. And there are warnings this will potentially become more frequent in the future. What you think could be done to prepare betterfor this again when times in the future . For those of again when times in the future . Fr . Those of us who are in the Fire And Emergency services, we have to be prepared to respond to these crises in the amount of time its going to take for all of us together to get our infrastructure to a point and certainly address the root causes of why we are having these more severe weather events more frequently than i ever ever seen in my 30 year career. ~ ,. ,. , career. Where you are in philadelphia, career. Where you are in philadelphia, thankfully | career. Where you are in i philadelphia, thankfully no career. Where you are in philadelphia, thankfully no loss of life but what are the steps you have to take . Whats the priority in terms of the clean Up And Recovery . We are still seeing buildings affected by the flooding, we have to evacuate and assess some because water is going into the basement where Electrical Switchgear is. We are dealing with folks who have been affected even though no lives are lost, a lot of people have lost property, we are thinking about them and doing everything we can to help them. At the same time, cleaning our streets and sewers and getting highways back open and doing what we do, this is a very resilient city so we will keep punching and moving forward. ,. , forward. You mentioned the resilience. Forward. You mentioned the resilience, when forward. You mentioned the resilience, when images forward. You mentioned the resilience, when images started emerging from what was happening, it took a lot of people by surprise, there was a sense of shock at seeing some of the images of the devastation. How much of an experience was it for The City . Was it quite a reeling experience when it quite a reeling experience when it happened and how do you rebuild from this . The it happened and how do you rebuild from this . ,. , from this . The great thing about this ci , from this . The great thing about this city. One from this . The great thing about this city, one of from this . The great thing about this city, one of the from this . The great thing about this city, one of the many from this . The great thing about this city, one of the many greatl this city, one of the many great things, certainly all of our dedicated dispatchers and firefighters, paramedics, police officers, got right in the water and did what they needed to take care of people. Our citizens are resilient. Neighbours helping neighbours, a lot of not for profit organisations, partners involved in this response and i expect that will continue into this long and difficult recovery. Thank you very much Forjoining Us and good luck with the rest of the recovery operation. Recovery operation. Thank you, stace. Stay safe. To scotland now, where, as in the rest of The Uk, Department Stores are closing by the dozen, as Shopping Habits change. So what to do with these often iconic City Centre buildings . Drinks giant diageo has given a new lease of life to one store in edinburgh, as a centre for whisky tourism. Douglas fraser, lucky him, went to find out more. A new perspective on the capital and on scotch whisky. The Makers Ofjohnnie Walker have invested £185 million to convert the former Frasers Department Store in princes street. Thats alsog to up Rate Visitor centres at four distilleries around the country that provides spirit for this blend. The most valuable commercial brand to come out of scotland. In this immersive experience, its not enough to sell a product, this is about smelling, tasting, colour and telling a story. Consumers are really looking more and more to understand whats in their product, where it come from, how is it made, who are the people behind it . And certainly as you look at the next generation of consumers coming through, theres going to be an increasing demand. The Whole Distilling Industry has been putting effort into whisky tourism. The year before covid, it was worth £85 million to Scotlands Economy and growing rapidly. There were nearly 2. 2 Million distillery visits, with an average spend of £39. The Tourism End of whisky brought more than 1,200 jobs, a tenth of the industry total. Department stores, like frasers here, have been closing by the hundred recently. Some have been transformed for new markets in leisure and hospitality. On this street alone, three other big stores are currently closed and being redeveloped. City centres face a huge challenge if commuters dont return. Bigger, better Visitor Attractions like this Whisky Centre are going to be vital to their health. Paris is undeniably one of the worlds great capital cities, renowned for its charm, its history and its beauty. But nowhere is perfect. Paris has problems with waste and pollution. Now, one 11 year old boy is trying to do something about it. The bbc� s Tim Allman explains. Meet raphael and his unusual aladdins cave. No magic lamp, but plenty of rusty telephones and discarded bits of metal. The young boy, along with his friends, has taken to fishing in the seine. But hes looking for scrap and junk, rather than aquatic life forms. Translation i feel like im doing something for the planet, in my own little way. Some ten or 11 year olds stay at home and play football. Well, i know im cleaning up. Not the entire planet, but im cleaning up. Raphael began his crusade to Clean Up the riverways of paris less than two years ago. In that time, he estimates hes fished out around 300 bikes, 100 shopping trolleys, and 200 electric scooters. My goal is to raise awareness so that people do something. They dont have to do what i do, but at least do something. It could just be picking up cigarette butts. Last 0ctober he was awarded the medal of paris, in honour of those who have performed a remarkable deed for The City. Notjust The City, the world too. Raphael is saving the environment, One Rusty Bike at a time. Tim allman, bbc news. A rare encounter between a Southern Right Whale and a paddleboarder has been captured on video. The curious mammal seemingly plays with the woman on the Paddle Board and then swims directly beneath it. This particular type of whale can be found in waters around south america, South Africa and australia. Now its time for a look at the weather with louise lear. Hello there. Once again its cloudy skies for some, but not for all and finally we get some much wanted sunshine across southern england. Take a look at hastings a little earlier on. A glorious morning here. As we go through the remainder of the day, it looks likely through the bristol channel, towards suffolk is where we will continue to see the best of the sunshine. This cloud should start to thin and break in places, particularly sheltered western areas, allowing some sunshine to come through. As we go through the remainder of the afternoon, a good deal of dry weather. Always, once again, a little more cloud along that east coast, so here temperatures struggling. We should see temperatures peaking at 22 celsius, 72 fahrenheit. Now, it looks likely that the sunshine and the warmth will become more of a feature to the Weather Story over the next few days, but there is also going to be some rain and in actual fact, welcome rain for some. Ill come onto that injust a moment. Well start off saturday still with that high slowly drifting over to scandinavia. Quite a quiet Weather Story with frontal systems waiting out in the wings. It will be a cloudy start, a few isolated showers here and there, particularly through the Isles Of Scilly and cornwall. Slowly brightening up into the afternoon and once again the further west is where we are likely to see the best of the sunshine and those temperatures peaking between 14 and 22 celsius. Now, as i say, the Real Change is likely to arrive on sunday, as the high pushes over into scandinavia, a southerly wind really starts to take over and this Weather Front will bring some welcome rain into Northern Ireland and scotland, as there are Water Restrictions in some areas. Thats how dry it has been throughout the summer here. Further south, though, will see some sunshine continuing and with a light but south easterly breeze it is going to continue to drag up some warmer air from the near continent. Im sure that will come as music to your ears after a pretty disappointing august in the far south and east. So watch the warm russet tones arrive, that means temperatures as we go through the afternoon likely to peak in the mid 20s, thats the mid 70s fahrenheit, obviously a little Bit Cooler where we have got the Cloud And Rain but this Warming Trend is likely to stay with us, particularly for england and wales, as we go into the early half of the week and we havent seen temperatures like this in england and wales for the whole of august. This is bbc news. Im luxmy gopal. The headlines the foreign secretary, Dominic Raab, holds talks in pakistan where more than Three Million afghan refugees are already living. We will support those regional partners, particularly like pakistan, who i can imagine is very concerned about the risk of numbers coming across the border. Police shoot dead a violent extremist who stabbed and injured six people in New Zealand. Ministers consider raising national insurance to fund Social Care reform, despite a conservative Election Promise not to increase taxes. At least 45 people are now known to have been killed in devastating Flash Floods in the North East of the United States. Footballs world Governing Body, fifa, investigates Last Nights events in hungary where England Players were racially abused during their 4 0 win. And 0lly pope stems the flow of wickets on day two of the fourth Test against india with a half century to put england back in control, for now. Good Afternoon And Welcome to bbc news. The foreign secretary, Dominic Raab, says hes had constructive discussions with his counterpart in pakistan about securing Safe Passage from afghanistan for people entitled to settle in The Uk. With kabul� s airport still closed, pakistan is crucial in the mission to help people flee afghanistan because the two nations share a land border. He told a News Conference in islamabad that britain was sending £30 Million of aid to help afghanistans neighbours cope with refugees. He also said Uk Experts were heading to the region to co ordinate efforts. This report from our diplomatic correspondent james landale. For anyone trying to flee afghanistan by land, this is the kind of Border Crossing TheyllFace Wire fences, armed guards and queues of refugees not going anywhere fast. This is torkham to the east of kabul, one of main gateways to pakistan. In normal times, thousands cross it every day. Now, its just a trickle. Translation at present the taliban are just standing by waiting, theyre not settled yet. 0nce theyre in full power, then we will know if the situation will improve or not. This morning Dominic Raab visited torkham to see for himself the reality that afghans and british nationals would face if they arrived here hoping to flee the taliban. There are already about Three Million afghan refugees in pakistan and after talks with his counterpart, the foreign secretary heard first hand the countrys concerns about adding to theiR Number. Can we block them . Well, we cant. Can we regulate them . Yes, we should. Are there risks . Yes, there are. Mr raab said britain would shoulder its responsibilities and announced £30 Million of humanitarian aid to provide Shelter And Sanitation for refugees. Well support those regional partners, particularly like pakistan who i imagine is very concerned about the risk of numbers coming across the border. We want to make sure we can support those partners in the Region Deal with that. As for the people of afghanistan, Mr Raab said any aid would be chanelled through charities and not the taliban. But he promised more dialogue with the group. Without it, he said, britain could not have evacuated more than 15,000 people from kabul airport. We need to try and forge a stronger group of countries and a wider group of countries around those basic issues. More inclusive government, Safe Passage out, no Safe Haven for terrorism, the humanitarian lifeline that its in all sides interests to see allowed and preserved to preserve regional stability. But aid and refugees often have to cross by land and these mountains show how hard that may be. Diplomats say there is a real risk of a Refugee Crisis in afghanistan and its not clear yet what the outside world might do to avoid it. And much depends on how the taliban choose to govern. For now, the celebrations of victory continue, with more parades of seized american military equipment. James landale, bbc news. There are reports from afghanistan of heavy fighting around the Panjshir Valley between taliban and groups which oppose their takeover of the rest of the country. Its a rugged area to the north of the capital kabul, and is the last remaining area not under taliban control. The anti taliban fighters are a multiethnic group made up of militias and former afghan Security Force members, reportedly numbering in the thousands. Large numbers of taliban fighters are reported to have launched an assault on their positions. In the capital, kabul, theres still no sign of a new taliban government being announced. 0ur chief international Correspondent Lyse Doucet sent this update from The City. Days ago the taliban posted photographs on Social Media of huge piles of white taliban flags at the president ial palace saying that everything was ready now for a Grand Ceremony to introduce the new government, but ever since then, every day, including today, we are told by a taliban spokesperson that today will not be the day. They are not saying why theres a delay, but we understand one of the big reasons is that they have been boasting that they now control more of afghanistan than they did when they were in power in the 1990s. But this time, there is still this resistance coming from the Panjshir Valley in eastern afrghanistan, one of the smallest of areas with the biggest of legends, with thousands said to be Holding Out, commanded by a 32 year old son of the legendary Commander Ahmad Shah massoud. His son, ahmad massoud, must feel the hand of his father upon him. He has said he is willing to negotiate with the taliban, but there is no sign that that is working and in the last 24 hours, both sides are reporting heavy fighting, both sides are reporting casualties and i would imagine, as always in these battles, it has been thus for many, many years in afghanistan, there is a bit of facts and a bit of exaggeration and fabrication. But a big question is how long can this very defiant resistance hold out against a very defiant taliban . Here in kabul, the taliban are still struggling to get the capital itself on its feet. The qataris are brining in technical experts to try to get the flights the qataris are bringing in technical experts to try to get the flights going at kabul international airport. We hear that the United Nations has resumed some of its humanitarian aid flights going to the northern city of mazar i sharif, Thesouthern City Of Kandahar where airfields are now operating, but there are still massive queues at the Bank Branches which are open here. And still a great deal of uncertainty amongst afghans as to what kind of an islamic government will emerge and what kind of rules and regulations will govern their lives. A man who stabbed and wounded at least six people at a supermarket in New Zealand has been described by the countrys Prime Minister as a violent extremist. The Sri Lankan man was shot and killed by police. Jacinda ardern said he had been known to authorities. 0ur Correspondent Phil mercer reports. The attacker was under 24 Hour Surveillance when he began his rampage at a supermarket in auckland. It lasted less than a minute, but six people were wounded, some of them seriously. He stabbed this woman when she came out, i was going in. I went down to the other end, there was an old gentleman, european man, lying on the ground. Jacinda ardern, the New ZealandPrime Minister, said the assailant was shot dead by the police within 60 seconds of the attack starting. What happened today was despicable. It was hateful, it was wrong. It was carried out by an individual, not a faith, not a culture, not an ethnicity. But an individual person who was gripped by ideology that is not supported here. Senior officers have insisted that Armed Police intervened as quickly as they could. The reality is that when you are surveilling someone on a 24 7 basis, it is not possible to be immediately next to them at all times. Staff intervened as quickly as they could and they prevented further injury in what was a terrifying situation. The man, a Sri Lankan national, arrived in New Zealand a decade ago, was identified as a national Security Threat in 2016 and had been monitored ever since. Despite his dangerous views, there was no legal reason for him to be detained. We have utilised every legal and Surveillance Power available to us to try and keep people safe from this individual. Many agencies and people were involved. This act of violence will stir painful memories in New Zealand of the deadly Mosque Attacks in christchurch in march 2019, when a gunman, a self confessed white supremacist, murdered 51 worshippers. Once again, the Nations Isolation has been no defence against extremism. Phil mercer, bbc news. Raffaello pantucci is from the royal united services institute. He described how difficult it was for anti terror investigators to keep tabs on all individuals who pose a threat. It is a huge problem, frankly. This is really becoming the very sharp end of the Terrorist Threat that you see in the west in particular. There are lots of similarities in some ways to this attack to the one that We Saw in the united kingdom in streatham in february 2020, where an individual who was under close surveillance by the authorities, someone they were very worried about, went into a shop and essentially picked up a knife and started stabbing at the people around him. And that is pretty much exactly what we have seen just happen here in auckland, though of course there are some key differences around the two individual cases. And, you know, We Saw a similar attack earlier this year in germany where another individual who was someone. That person was not necessarily a concern to the Security Forces, but he launched an attack in very much the same way. This is kind of the problem. You have these very volatile individuals, often isolated, often clearly radicalised and people that the Security Services are aware of and are concerned about, but unless they commit an offence that mandates the Criminaljustice System getting involved, arresting them and putting them in prison for a long period of time, which therefore means that they can be watched in that context, it becomes very difficult for the Security Forces. You know, if the Person Isjust maybe accessing stuff online but they are not sure about it, if he is just apparently quite a volatile individual but doesnt have any kind of immediate weapons to hand, it becomes very difficult for them to be able to stop this person before launching an attack without having to really walk the Criminaljustice System in such a way that we might ultimately be breaching broader civil liberties. The government has refused to deny reports its planning to increase national insurance and has said a way has to be found to fund Social Care adequately in england. It comes after the former Health Secretaryjeremy Hunt said the government must Bite The Bullet and raise taxes because the sums needed for both Nhs Funding and Social Care were, as he put it, Eye Watering. But any increase in national Insurance Or Income tax would breach the commitment the conservatives made in their election manifesto. Jonathan blake has more. It is not talking about it in public but it is pretty clear there is a discussion ongoing at the heart of government between the Prime Minister, the chancellor and the Health Secretary about how to pay for what everyone accepts is a much needed reform of the social Care System in england. And it appears they are ready to go against a Manifesto Commitment not to raise national insurance, vat or Income Tax in order to pay for that. What will be a hugely expensive and costly reform as well as funding the nhs in tandem along with that to the tune of perhaps something in excess of £5 billion to allow it to attempt to clear the backlog caused by the coronavirus pandemic. This is Something Borisjohnson promised to do on the first day he became Prime Minister to fix the problem of Social Care once and for all. But the problem he seems to be faced with is the only viable way of doing that involves him breaking that Manifesto Commitment. So the numbers, the details, by no means confirmed, but an announcement could come as early as next week and the debate is under way about whether this is a wise move or not. As you say, the former Health Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, has had his say and has said that while national insurance is not the best or fairest way to do it because It Disproportionally hits younger earners in society, a Tax Rise is no doubt needed. Well, i think the answer is a Health And Care premium, something that could help relieve the pressure on the nhs in the short term, but then move into the transformation of the social Care System we need in the more medium term. It is a Tax Increase, i do not think we should call It Anything other than a Tax Increase, but the reason i call it a Health And Care premium is because i think it is a better route than national insurance which for example is not paid by working pensioners. I think since older people are the biggest beneficiaries of this extra investment, it is fair that they should make a contribution. Any Tax Rise is always a hard sell and this will be harder still for borisjohnson, because it will involve him potentially breaking that Manifesto Commitment that was made before the 2019 General Election and it will be a hard sell too not only to the public, many of whom will pay large amounts still, even if a Tax Rise is brought in to reform Social Care, pay large amounts towards care if it is needed themselves individually, but to conservative mps for whom Raising Taxes is largely repellent. The Justice Secretary, robert buckland, was asked on Bbc Breakfast this morning how he felt about going against that Manifesto Commitment. I think what we said in the manifesto about Social Care is that no one has a monopoly of wisdom about these issues and the british public are sensible enough to know that when it comes to the issue of Social Care, we have to find some way in which it will be adequately funded. As i said, i will not start speculating as to precisely what that will entail, but having a grown up conversation with people is what you should be doing and im glad to see that that is certainly happening in the context of Social Care. So a grown up conversation about a sustainable Funding Model for the long term, as the Justice Secretary was saying there, code for this is going to be difficult and it is going to be costly and it is going to hit people One Way or another in their pockets. Borisjohnson perhaps in the coming days, once the details are finalised, although we are told that no decisions have been made yet, will be preparing his arguments in order to make the case for a Tax Rise which he will say is needed in order to reform Social Care sooner rather than later. Simon bottery is a senior fellow in Social Care at the kings fund. Hejoins me now. Thank you for being with us. Of course, the way we pay for Social Care, this has been a long pressing issue. How much more urgent do you think it is now . It issue. How much more urgent do you think it is now . Think it is now . It has become progressively think it is now . It has become progressively more think it is now . It has become progressively more urgent think it is now . It has become. Progressively more urgent simply because we have failed as a country under successive governments have failed to tackle it as a problem. We are only spending about the same amount that we spent ten years ago, despite the fact that there are more people in need, more people coming forward for support. So i think we should be welcoming the governments proposals if and when we see them, but i think we also need to recognise that they are only a first step in the proper reform of Social Care. 0ther Step in the proper reform of Social Care. Other things will need to be donein care. Other things will need to be done in addition to the measures that the government is talking about, the cap and potential reform of the Test'>Means Test. We about, the cap and potential reform of the Test'>Means Test. Of the Test'>Means Test. We will come in to bat on of the Test'>Means Test. We will come in to Baton A of the Test'>Means Test. We will come in to bat on a moment, of the Test'>Means Test. We will come in to bat on a moment, but of the Test'>Means Test. We will come in to bat on a moment, but i of the Test'>Means Test. We will come in to bat on a moment, but i first of the Test'>Means Test. We will come in l to bat on a moment, but i first want to bat on a moment, but i first want to ask what do you make of concerns of increasing national insurance to pay is not the fairest way of Funding It . Pay is not the fairest way of fundin it . ,. , Funding It . There are certainly issues with Funding It . There are certainly issues with national Funding It . There are certainly| issues with national insurance, Funding It . There are certainly issues with national insurance, not as progressive as Income Tax, but ultimately we do need to find a way to pay for Social Care and it is the Governments Job to to pay for Social Care and it is the governmentsjob to come to pay for Social Care and it is the Governments Job to come up with a way of doing it and if ultimately they decided they will do it through national insurance, i think we have to accept that. We have to find a way of funding the Social Care and the government appears to be on the point of doing that. What the government appears to be on the point of doing that. Point of doing that. What do you make Ofjeremy Point of doing that. What do you make ofJeremy Hunts point of doing that. What do you | make of Jeremy Hunts Proposals Point of doing that. What do you make of Jeremy Hunts proposals for make ofJeremy Hunts proposals for a health Care Premium . Make of Jeremy Hunts proposals for a health Care Premium . A health Care Premium . Again, ultimately. A health Care Premium . Again, ultimately. I a health Care Premium . Again, ultimately, ithink a health Care Premium . Again, ultimately, i think how a health Care Premium . Again, ultimately, i think how the ultimately, i think how the government chooses to find the Money Thatis Government chooses to find the money that is needed is a sort of up to them. There are better or worse ways of doing it. The important thing is we find the money to put into reform of The System, which is failing working age adults, failing older people, and which has been failing for an awful long time. What people, and which has been failing for an awful long time. People, and which has been failing for an awful long time. What you are sa in is for an awful long time. What you are saying is really for an awful long time. What you are saying is really this for an awful long time. What you are saying is really this is for an awful long time. What you are saying is really this is not for an awful long time. What you are saying is really this is not just for an awful long time. What you are saying is really this is notjust a saying is really this is notjust a case about putting more money into it, what do you think is needed then to enable wider reform of the social Care System . I to enable wider reform of the social Care System . To enable wider reform of the social Care System . I think the government is riaht to Care System . I think the government is right to attack Care System . I think the government is right to attack the Care System . I think the government is right to attack the issue Care System . I think the government is right to attack the issue of Care System . I think the government is right to attack the issue of the is right to attack the issue of the caps, preventing the issue of catastrophic cost websites and people can end up spending 100,000 or more. What they appear to be doing is broadening the Test'>Means Test and making it less mean, so more ordinary people will be able to get access to free or subsidised Social Care when they need it, help with washing, Dressing Or Support to live independent lives. So i think it is good they are doing those things. We need more emphasis on quality, how do we get away from simply doing the 15 minute, 30 minute visits, which we still hear about too frequently . We also need a focus on workforce, because it not only Art Staff underpaid, we are really struggling to recruit enough of them in order to recruit enough of them in order to have a decent and social Care System. Mil to have a decent and Social Care s stem. ,. , i. System. All of the things that you mention that system. All of the things that you mention that still system. All of the things that you mention that still require system. All of the things that you mention that still require more i mention that still require more funding under the proposals or changes planned to go against what conservatives are promised in their manifesto. How do you think we balance this need for vast funding to reform The System with making it palatable for taxpayers . The curious thin is palatable for taxpayers . The curious thing is when palatable for taxpayers . The curious thing is when you palatable for taxpayers . The curious thing is when you talk palatable for taxpayers . The curious thing is when you talk to palatable for taxpayers . The curious thing is when you talk to people, thing is when you talk to people, and we run groups with ordinary members of the public, first people think they already have a better social Care System than they have. They actually want a better system and they think it is in place. When you explain to people that actually The System is not very good and you explain really how dreadful it is and how likely they are to get support, they do actually support to the principle of more investment in it. So i think there is a broad opinion amongst the public that we do need to fix this, we do need to sort it out and yes, it will cost money and having a balance of responsibility between the state putting in money and the individual still being responsible to some elements of their own care, there seems to be a broad consensus for that sort of Approach. Seems to be a broad consensus for that sort of Approach. Thank you for our that sort of Approach. Thank you for your time Footballs World government body, fifa, is investigating racial abuse by hungary fans towards England Players during last Nights World Cup qualifier in budapest. England condemned the abuse as completely unacceptable and borisjohnson has urged fifa to take strong action against supporters who made monkey noises and threw objects onto the pitch during the game, which england won 4 0. Natalie pirks report. The atmosphere was hostile from the very start in the puskas arena. Pleas not to boo Englands Antiracism Gesture of taking the knee fell on deaf ears. That is disappointing, so disappointing. That is disappointing, so disappointing. Led that is disappointing, sol disappointing. Led largely that is disappointing, so disappointing. Led largely by the ultras but as the night grew on, it got much worse. England players were pelted with plastic cups and some faced monkey chants from the stands by some of the so called ultras. I dont think our players can do anything more than they have done over the last two or three years in trying to get the right messages out, take the right stands, and its for other people to protect them, its for me to protect them in the main, but for the authorities to protect them as well. Many feel racist Fans Shouldnt have been there in the first place. Hungary were handed a three Match Ban by uefa, European FootballsGoverning Body, for Racism And Homophobia this summer. But because last Nights Game was a World Cup Qualifier, under fifa, the Ban Hadnt kicked in. This was a match that really should have been played behind closed doors. Hungary have been sanctioned for three matches with one suspended by uefa following events at the euros. Reallyjust five or six weeks ago. And then to see them playing a full House Match against a big racially diverse team like england was disappointing. This morning, in budapest, there was sadness at what happened. The racism is very much a problem here in hungary. Maybe they need to travel more around the world and see how other people behave. A report containing Video Evidence of the racism is now with fifa, but hungarys Foreign Minister dismissed the atmosphere Last Night as simply hostile, and similar to what italy faced at wembley in the european final. England does have its own problem with racist abuse in football, but for hungary, more sanctions are surely heading its way. Natalie pirks, bbc news. The us president , Joe Biden, claims the destruction caused by Hurricane Ida and its aftermath proves that the Climate Crisis is here. Ida had been downgraded to a storm, but Flash Flooding in the North East of the United States is known to have killed at least 45 people. In New York, people drowned while trapped in Basement Apartments and cars, as simonjones reports. The destruction in the words of the us president , Joe Biden is everywhere. Its a matter of Life And Death and we are all in this together, he said. Emergencies have been declared in newjersey and in New York. Dramatic rescues for people stuck in their cars. The governor said the Heavens Opening had brought Niagara Falls levels of water to The City. Hundreds of people were stranded on subway trains. Up above, the streets were quickly flooded. At some points we were experiencing three to four inches of rain in one hour, causing all the flooding and people getting trapped in their cars. More of an issue was people getting trapped in their basements where they live, and thats how a lot of people died as well. In pennsylvania, normal ways of getting around had to be abandoned, replaced by boats. I woke up to a lot of people banging on my door and just a lot of noises in my house, basically, coming from my basement. And i went downstairs and saw about six feet of water in my basement, and opened the front door and noticed the entire street was about four or five feet high with all the cars submerged in water. Pretty crazy. The record amounts of rainfall in such a short space of time, caused by the remnants of Hurricane Ida, seemed to take everyone by surprise. We were staying at the residence inn, when the waters rose much higher and faster than we ever anticipated. And we found ourselves trapped. Climate experts say change is needed. We have 20th century or even 19th century cities in some places in the United States, and a Brave New21st Ce Ntury climate. So there is a mismatch between what we have built in our Cities Today and the Climate Reality that face modern cities. In california, it is fires rather than flooding that are causing chaos. The past few days of Hurricane Ida, the wildfires in the west and the unprecedented Flash Floods in New York and newjersey is yet another reminder that these extreme storms and the Climate Crisis are here. The time to act, he says, is now. But keeping a lid on future Destruction Wont be easy. Simon jones, bbc news. Earlier i asked adam theil, the Fire Commisioner for Philadelphia Fire Department what the situation is like there at The Moment. Thankfully, floodwaters have receded. We reached a peak of 16. 5 feet, the record set in 1896 was 17, normal flow is about 5. 5, very significant historic Flooding Event for us here in philadelphia. In your time working for the fire department, have youve seen anything that has come close to this before . No, talking to folks who have been here their entire lives, they have never seen flooding like this in their lives. Truly extraordinary. We are out of Rescue Mode and starting a very long clean Up And Recovery. Is there anything more that could have been done to be prepared and planned for this or was it a case of being caught Off Guard by the volume of rain, the volume of water . We are simply not built, The City is not built to accommodate that amount of water, it has not happened in more than a century, the Weather Service Prediction ended 15 or 16 feet because this has never happened before. Thankfully we had a lot of Rescue Teams on standby, we were able to make many, many rescues and really take care of people. We have no reports of injuries or lives lost, that said, if this is going to become the norm, we have quite a few years ahead of us. Absolutely and there are warnings this will potentially become more frequent in the future. What do you think could be done to prepare betterfor this again for times in the future . For those of us who are in the Fire And Emergency services, we have to be prepared to respond to these crises in the amount of time its going to take for all of us together to get our infrastructure to a point and certainly address the root causes of why we are having these more severe weather events more frequently than i have ever seen in my 30 year career. Where you are in philadelphia, thankfully no loss of life but what are the steps you have to take . Whats the priority in terms of the clean Up And Recovery . We are still seeing buildings affected by the flooding, we have to evacuate and assess some because water is going into the basement where Electrical Switchgear is. We have a couple of buildings that have already been evacuated. We are dealing with folks who have been affected even though no lives are lost, a lot of people have lost property, we are thinking about them and doing everything we can to help them. At the same time, cleaning our streets and sewers and getting highways back open and doing what we do, this is a very resilient city so we will keep punching and moving forward. You mentioned the resilience of The City, when images started emerging from what was happening, it took a lot of people by surprise, there was a sense of shock at seeing some of the images of the devastation. How much of an experience was it for The City . Was it quite a reeling experience when it happened and how do you rebuild from this . The great thing about this city, one of the many great things, certainly all of our dedicated dispatchers and firefighters, paramedics, police officers, got right in the water and did what they needed to take care of people. 0ur Citizens are resilient. Neighbours helping neighbours, a lot of not for profit organisations, so many partners involved in this response and i expect that will continue into this long and difficult recovery. Some Breaking News to bring you in the past few minutes we have heard from the Independentjoint Committee on vaccination and immunisation. We have had some conclusions about the benefits of vaccinating healthy 12 to 15 rods. Our Health Correspondent, Jim Reed is here. What Jim Reed is here. Have wejust heard . What Jim Reed is here. Have we ust heard . , decision what have we ust heard . This decision came] what have we just heard . This decision came from what have we just heard . Try 3 decision came from the jcvi which is decision came from thejcvi which is a group of around 20 independent scientists looking to Vaccine-decisions'>Vaccine Decisions in this country and have been asked to look at whether to vaccinate healthy 12 15 Year Olds, they have come under a lot of pressure to come to this decision. They have been weighing up the possible Health Benefits of that decision and the possible harms, however small and have said in the last few minutes that the benefits of vaccinating healthy 12 15 Year Olds showery a marginal gain as they put it and that is insufficient to support a universal offerfrom a insufficient to support a universal offer from a health insufficient to support a universal offerfrom a health perspective. Thats the first part of the decision, they say there is not evidence to offer this to all 12 15 Year Olds. But there is a separate, second part of this. They say the jcvi can only look at their remit, at specific Health Benefits and harms of this decision. They did not look at the wider societal benefits, including the possible harm of closing schools, the disruption to schools. They are going to pass this decision or the government will pass this decision, onto the four Chief Medical Officer england, scotland, wales and Northern Ireland. Chris whitty and his colleagues and they are going to review this decision, looking also at the possible benefits and harms to schools of Post Covid and taking a Vaccine. That Decision Both Covid 19. At The Moment, to recap, thejcvi are saying the Health Evidence is not there to give this Vaccine to all 1215 there to give this Vaccine to all 12 15 Year Olds at The Moment but they are passing decision the Chief Medical Officers of all four nations of The Uk to see if that decision around whether the wider harms and benefits of Closing A might push the decision towards offering the Vaccine. ,. ,. Decision towards offering the Vaccine. ,. , Vaccine. The balance that was decided, the Vaccine. The balance that was decided, the reason Vaccine. The balance that was decided, the reason this Vaccine. The balance that was decided, the reason this was| Vaccine. The balance that was| decided, the reason this was a Balancing Act is because of the weighing up the risk of that Age Group versus the potential Side Effect of the Vaccine. Group versus the potential Side Effect of the Vaccine. Thats right and were talking effect of the Vaccine. Thats right and were talking about effect of the Vaccine. Thats right and were talking about very effect of the Vaccine. Thats right. And were talking about very small numbers on both sides. The risks as we know of covid to children in that Age Group is incredibly small. The chance of a severe Covid Infection is tiny. 25 children in that Age Group have died since the beginning of the pandemic. The vast majority with serious underlying Health Conditions. 0n the other side, there are Side Effects, every Vaccine has possible Side Effects but again the risk of those Side Effects is also very small in that Age Group. They are trying to weigh up both of those risks and benefits. The one Side Effect they are looking at in particular is something called myocarditis, and information of the Heart Muscle and there is some evidence that after taking the pfizer Vaccine, evidence that after taking the pfizerVaccine, Rates Evidence that after taking the pfizer Vaccine, rates are higher especially among young boys in after taking a second dose. This is still exceptionally small, after a second dose of the Vaccine, between 12 and 34 cases per million. You can see the risks of myocarditis are very small but they want to see more evidence see if those risks could be greater in the longer term, to see how the layout months after getting the Vaccine which is one reason why they have not made this decision at they have not made this decision at The Moment. They have not made this decision at The Moment they have not made this decision at The Moment. ,. ,. , The Moment. Thank you very much for brinuain us The Moment. Thank you very much for bringing us the The Moment. Thank you very much for bringing us the details The Moment. Thank you very much for bringing us the details on The Moment. Thank you very much for bringing us the details on that bringing us the details on that Breaking News. And if you have questions forJim Reed on this announcement, wed like to hear from you. You can get in touch on twitter using the hashtag bbcyourquestions and you can email us on yourquestions bbc. Co. Uk sport and for a full round up, from the Bbc Sport centre, heres chetan. Good afternoon. Great britain have taken three more gold medals on day 10 of the paralympic games in tokyo and have now passed the 100 Medal Mark at the games. One of those gold medals went to Emma Wiggs in caneoing, making her the first paralympic champion in the vl2 200 metres event, following on from the title she won in rio five years ago, when paracanoeing made its debut. Shell aim to defend her Kl2 Kayak Title on saturday. I was just wanting to get down the course and deliver the race my coach and i had worked out. It was that relief of crossing the line and realising we had done it, it was our Dream And Goal and we managed to deliver it. I imagined my family on the spectacular project on the spectacular bridge at the end of the course. For the last year and a half, i have been putting them on that bridge in visualisation. Ijust thought of them. It was a bit overwhelming when i actually got there. Elsewhere, World ChampionJonathan Broom edwards won the t64 high jump, clearing 2. 10 metres with his second attempt for gold and therefore goes one better than the silver he won in rio. And it was a dream paralympic debut for owen miller. He put in a strong final lap to pull off an upset and win the t201500m in three minutes 54. 57 seconds, ahead of russian alexander rabotnitskii. England have edged into the lead on day two of the fourth Test against india at the oval, after recovering from the loss of two early wickets at the start of play today. Craig 0verton And Dawid malan were both removed quickly by umesh yadav, england were 62 5. Butjonny Bairstow And Ollie pope put on 89 for the sixth wicket as they fought back. Bairstow went for 37 in the end, Moeen Alis just been bowled by jadeja, but pope currently unbeaten on 74 as england are 223 for 7, thats a lead of 31 runs. Theres full commentary on Bbc Radio 5 live sports extra and coverage on the Bbc Sport Website. Charles leclerc led home a ferrari one two in an interupted second Practice Session at the Dutch Grand Prix, which also saw Lewis Hamilton stop out on track the reigning World Champion was forced to bring his mercedes to a halt early in the session following reported engine trouble, he finished in eleventh, when running resumed it was leclerc who set the Surprise Pace with Team Mate carlos sainz close behind. Its the first time F1 Cars have raced at the historic Zondvoort Track since 1985. Fifa says its investigating racial abuse aimed at England Player RaheemSterling And Jude bellingham during thursdays World Cup Qualifier in budapest. Prime Minister Borisjohnson has urged fifa to take strong action against those responsible to ensure that this kind of disgraceful behaviour is eradicated from the game for good. Piara powar is the executive director of the � football against racism in europe network. Seeing scenes like that and monkey chants being targeted is something that has been going on for a very, very long time in football and it is something that is now, you know, the time must be noted do more to tackle this and to make sure that everything that is possible to tackle this abuse is being done. And arsenal women have completed the signing of United States forward and two time World Cup Winner tobin heath. The 33 year old spent last season at Manchester United where she scored four goals in eight league games before an Ankle Injury and won a Bronze Medal with the us at this summers 0lympics. The womens super league starts this evening and is expected to attract Record Audience figures and become one of the most watched Womens Sport leagues in the world. You can get all the Build Up on the Bbc Sport Website. Lets return to that Breaking News that the Independentjoint Committee on vaccination and immunisation has concluded the benefit of vaccinating healthy 12 15 Year Olds only shows a marginal gain but says it is insufficient to support a universal offer of a Vaccine to all children in that Age Group. Joining me now is expert in infectious diseases, Paul Hunter Professor of medicine at the university of east anglia. Iimagine the i imagine the challenge is that it is a decision that is so finely balanced because of the is a decision that is so finely balanced because of is a decision that is so finely balanced because 0 balanced because of the low risk of covid to children balanced because of the low risk of covid to children of balanced because of the low risk of covid to children of that balanced because of the low risk of covid to children of that age balanced because of the low risk of covid to children of that Age Group| covid to children of that Age Group and how relatively low risk the Side Effects are . And how relatively low risk the sideeffects are . And how relatively low risk the sideeffects are . Absolutely and if we are going sideeffects are . Absolutely and if we are going to sideeffects are . Absolutely and if we are going to vaccinate sideeffects are . Absolutely and if we are going to vaccinate children | we are going to vaccinate children it has got to really be in their interest and not in Societys Interest and not in Societys Interest and not in Societys Interest and so out is a difficult decision but i believe thejcvi has some of the best experts in the world to make the sort of decisions and i think they have given this substantial amount of thought and i would certainly support the decision they made today. Haifa would certainly support the decision they made today would certainly support the decision they made today. How do we square this with the they made today. How do we square this with the fact they made today. How do we square this with the fact that they made today. How do we square this with the fact that 1215 this with the fact that 12 15 Year Olds are being vaccinated in other parts of the world, such as israel, italy, france, the us. Irate israel, italy, france, the us. We have seen israel, italy, france, the us. Have seen already the situation with the jcvi have actually taken views different to that elsewhere and in particular different to that in the states. The classic example for this was the delay in rolling out the Vaccine, increasing the gap between the first and second dose and on that occasion, jcvi was absolutely correct to make that decision and as a result of that, has saved many thousands of lives and so i think jcvi has to make its own decision based on the data as it sees it and i think it is one of the most skilled organisations, committees on the world injudging skilled organisations, committees on the world in judging Vaccine requirements. {iii the world in judging Vaccine requirements. The world in judging Vaccine requirements. The world in judging Vaccine reauirements. ,. , requirements. Of course what was looked at here requirements. Of course what was looked at here is requirements. Of course what was looked at here is the requirements. Of course what was looked at here is the potential looked at here is the potential benefit for children themselves rather than society as a whole. But what is the impact on for example schools staying open on transmission within the community, . Within the community, . Probably not as ureat within the community, . Probably not as treat as within the community, . Probably not as great as a within the community, . Probably not as great as a lot within the community, . Probably not as great as a lot of within the community, . Probably not as great as a lot of people within the community, . Probably not as great as a lot of people would as great as a lot of people would imagine because when we look at the first wave of this pandemic, schools played a really important role in Transmission And Closing schools across europe had a big downward pressure on the transmission. But as the pandemic has gone on, more recent studies have shown that actually schools being open or close have had to decreasingly important role in the roll out of the pandemic. There was a paper from oxford only a few, about a Month 0xford only a few, about a month ago, showing the second wave schools were a lot less important than in the first wave. So yes, schools almost certainly will be associated with some increase in transmission. But it is doubtful that will be a huge impact on the epidemic. Certainly looking for way things have gone over the last few months. This of course is not necessarily conclusive change in policy or, it will then be referred to scientific advisers in coming weeks to make the decision. But we have also had comments from people about more generally how ethical it would be to vaccinate children when there are such large numbers of adults in the global population who have not had a chance to be vaccinated yet . Yes global population who have not had a chance to be vaccinated yet . Chance to be vaccinated yet . Yes and that is our next chance to be vaccinated yet . Yes and that is our next only chance to be vaccinated yet . Yes and that is our next only valid chance to be vaccinated yet . Yes and that is our next only valid point. That is our next only valid point. Certainly, there are a lot more people around the world who would benefit from vaccination now than would we have Vaccines for and using Vaccines for marginal benefit when really there are places around the world that desperately need even the most vulnerable being vaccinated, i think there is a strong ethical argument against rolling out Vaccine as well. ,. ,. , as well. Professor Paul Hunter, thank you as well. Professor Paul Hunter, thank you very as well. Professor Paul Hunter, thank you very much as well. Professor Paul Hunter, thank you very much for as well. Professor Paul Hunter, thank you very much for your i as well. Professor Paul Hunter, i thank you very much for your time and Forjoining Us. Mi; thank you very much for your time and Forjoining Us. The foreign secretary, Dominic Raab, says hes had Constructive And Cordial discussions with his counterpart in pakistan, about securing Safe Passage out of afghanistan for people entitled to settle in The Uk. He told a News Conference in islamabad that the two countries had a shared interest in supporting a stable and peaceful future for afg hanistan. And he said The Uk was sending 30 Million pounds of aid to countries in the region, to help them deal with an anticipated surge of refugees. The bedrock, the basis of the Uk Pakistan relationship is very strong. Like his excellency, The Uk has the desire and the will to take it to the next level. We also have a very clear and shared interest in the future of afghanistan. After the kabul airlift, we evacuated over 15,000 people to The Uk which was unprecedented for modern times, certainly for The Uk, and are working together to secure Safe Passage for those who have not yet got out of afghanistan, whether they be british nationals of those who have worked for us. It was important to get the opportunity and im grateful to the government in helping making this possible to see the situation for myself on the Ground And Talk to people on the ground and really understand at that level. As for The Uk, we are very mindful of the situation for afghanistans neighbours. We will be shouldering a humanitarian responsibilities and have increased our aid to afghanistan this year to £286 million and will also support those countries who face the greaTest demands for those who may be displaced in the weeks ahead. Pakistans Foreign MinisterShah Mahmood Qureshi said his country would have to � co exist� with the taliban we are neighbours, we have to coexist. Geography ties us together. So our Approach has to be somewhat different. Realistic, as the foreign secretary said. There is a new reality thats come about, and what we have said, we have been, while the negotiations were on in doha and, you know, we facilitated the peace process, it came to a sort of conclusion. You know, there was a stalemate, but what we said was we have no favourites. Now, we have learnt over the years that afghanistan is a country which comprises of different ethnic groups. Taliban represents one. And a prominent one, but there are others, and that is why we have said it is in your interest, as neighbours and friends and well wishers, to adopt an inclusive Approach. In kabul, visible signs of a new regime taking control appear everyday. 0ur Colleague Secunder kermani has been on the streets this morning where painters are at work. For years, these blast walls, painted over with bright and inspiring murals, had been a colourful feature in kabul. Now you can see womens faces have been blacked out and the taliban have told decorators to paint over all of this, replacing it with these black and white slogans. This one reads, the blood of the martyrs has washed away the occupation. A glimpse of what the new afghanistan is going to look like. The headlines on bbc news. The governments scientific advisers say the benefit of vaccinating healthy 12 15 Year Olds would only show a marginal gain. The foreign secretary, Dominic Raab, holds talks in pakistan where more than 3 Million afghan refugees are already living. Police shoot dead a violent extremist who stabbed and injured six people in New Zealand. Japan is the first country in olympic history to host the paralympic games twice, but what is it like to be a person with a disability living Injapan Today . It is one of the few countries that require companies by law to hire a certain percentage of disabled employees. But, as our Tokyo CorrespondentRupert Wingfield Hayes discovers, prejudice against people with disabilities is still widespread. Natsuko izena calls herself the tiny 100 cm mum. She was born with brittle bone disease. That means she cannot stand and has repeatedly broken numerous bones. But natsuko has given birth to two children, something almost unheard of for someone with her disability injapan. And something she says many people here still do not accept or approve of. Many people are surprised and they do not believe i have children. If people say their honest feelings, they think it is not good. Honestly, many people think it is not good to have children for disabled people. Natsuko sans experience shows how farjapan has to go, but also how far it has come. Because last time the paralympics was held here in tokyo back in 1964, japan was still forcibly sterilising disabled people to prevent them from having children of their own. That so called Eugenics Protection Law was only finally repealed in 1996 and to this day, the japanese government has not fully recognised the role it played in violating the rights of more than 20,000 disabled people. You had no control over. Yumi suzuki is one of those victims. She was born with cerebral palsy. And she was 12 year old, her womb was removed without her knowledge or consent. Suzuki san and others are now suing. Close to the paralympic village, japanese school kids are learning what its like to have to use a wheelchair to get around. This is a start. But natsuko thinks the real barrier to acceptance for people like her is that most japanese people have never actually met a disabled person. I use a wheelchair and people just walk the other way. Many people see me strangely. And if i watch them, they ignore me because they dont have the chance to live with people with disabilities. Natsuko says all she really wants us to be given the same rights and be treated the same way as any other mum. For that, she says japan still has some way to go. People who steal pets in england are to face tougher penalties. Pet abductions increased during the pandemic. Figures show 2,000 dogs were reported stolen last year alone. Theft of pets is currently treated as a loss of property but there are now plans to make the abduction of animals a criminal offence. Our correspondent Duncan Kennedy reports. Barking. There are 12 Million dogs in The Uk. Their status among many families going way beyond pet. Todays new figures show that 2,000 dogs were reported stolen last year. When your dogs are stolen, it is devastating. For anybody who has had a dog stolen, they will immediately know. For anybody who has got a dog or a cat, you know how much you love them, they are priceless, irreplaceable members of our family. Its devastating, what happens to families. Yet until now, theres been no specific law to cover stolen pets. Today, the government says it is to change that, to make it a criminal offence to abduct a pet, as a way of recognising the emotional pain caused to owners. When you have the abduction and the theft of a pet, it is of a very different order, it causes huge trauma for the family who lose that loved pet, but also can cause trauma for the animal as well. So what were doing today is recognising that, creating a specific offence of Pet Abduction, and i think that will make it easier for us to record this crime, keep track of it, but also easier to prosecute it as well. It was a Government Task Force that came up with todays recommendations. As well as a new Pet Abduction offence, the government also wants to make Pet Microchip databases more accessible and pet owners would have to register additional details to improve the data surrounding pet ownership. This is an issue that dogs trust i and many other charities have been calling on for many years, and we know Dog Ownersl are extremely worried about this issue at The Moment, and one dog stolen is too many, so we would like to see urgent L Action and the recommendations that have been outlined today to be taken forward as quickly as possible. The police say many dogs are stolen so thieves can make money from their puppies, which have been in huge demand during the pandemic. The aim of the new law is to make it clear that pets are more than just property. Duncan kennedy, bbc news. To scotland now, where, as in the rest of The Uk, Department Stores are closing by the dozen, as Shopping Habits change. So what to do with these often iconic City Centre buildings . Drinks giant diageo has given a new lease of life to one store in edinburgh, as a centre for whisky tourism. Douglas fraser went to find out more. A new perspective on the capital and on scotch whisky. The Makers Ofjohnnie Walker have invested £185 million to convert the former Frasers Department Store in princes street. Thats also to up Rate Visitor centres at four distilleries around the country that provides spirit for this blend. The most valuable commercial brand to come out of scotland. In this immersive experience, its not enough to sell a product, this is about smelling, tasting, colour and telling a story. Consumers are really looking more and more to understand whats in their product, where it come from, how is it made, who are the people behind it . And certainly as you look at the next generation of consumers coming through, theres going to be an increasing demand. The Whole Distilling Industry has been putting effort into whisky tourism. The year before covid, it was worth £85 million to Scotlands Economy and growing rapidly. There were nearly 2. 2 Million distillery visits, with an average spend of £39. The Tourism End of whisky brought more than 1,200 jobs, a tenth of the industry total. Department stores, like frasers here, have been closing by the hundred recently. Some have been transformed for new markets in leisure and hospitality. On this street alone, three other big stores are currently closed and being redeveloped. City centres face a huge challenge if commuters dont return. Bigger, better Visitor Attractions like this Whisky Centre are going to be vital to their health. Now its time for a look at the weather with louise. Hello there. Once again its cloudy skies for some, but not for all and finally we get some much wanted sunshine across southern england. Take a look at hastings a little earlier on. A glorious morning here. As we go through the remainder of the day, it looks likely through the bristol channel, towards suffolk is where we will continue to see the best of the sunshine. This cloud should start to thin and break in places, particularly sheltered western areas, allowing some sunshine to come through. As we go through the remainder of the afternoon, a good deal of dry weather. Always, once again, a little more cloud along that east coast, so here temperatures struggling. We should see temperatures peaking at 22 celsius, 72 fahrenheit. Now, it looks likely that the sunshine and the warmth will become more of a feature to the Weather Story over the next few days, but there is also going to be some rain and in actual fact, welcome rain for some. Ill come onto that injust a moment. Well start off saturday still with that high slowly drifting over to scandinavia. Quite a quiet Weather Story with frontal systems waiting out in the wings. It will be a cloudy start, a few isolated showers here and there, particularly through the Isles Of Scilly and cornwall. Slowly brightening up into the afternoon and once again the further west is where we are likely to see the best of the sunshine and those temperatures peaking between 14 and 22 celsius. Now, as i say, the Real Change is likely to arrive on sunday, as the high pushes over into scandinavia, a southerly wind really starts to take over and this Weather Front will bring some welcome rain into Northern Ireland and scotland, as there are Water Restrictions in some areas. Thats how dry it has been throughout the summer here. Further south, though, will see some sunshine continuing and with a light but south easterly breeze it is going to continue to drag up some warmer air from the near continent. Im sure that will come as music to your ears after a pretty disappointing august in the far south and east. So watch the warm russet tones arrive, that means temperatures as we go through the afternoon likely to peak in the mid 20s, thats the mid 70s fahrenheit, obviously a little Bit Cooler where we have got the Cloud And Rain but this Warming Trend is likely to stay with us, particularly for england and wales, as we go into the early half of the week and we havent seen temperatures like this in england and wales for the whole of august. Benefits of vaccinating healthy 12 to 15 rods. This is bbc news. Im luxmy gopal. The headlines the governments scientific advisers say they wont recommend giving covid Vaccines to all 12 to 15 year olds because there would only be a marginal gain. Experts say there was a lot to weigh up. If we are going to vaccinate our children, it has got to really be in their interest and not in a Societys Interest to vaccinate them. The foreign secretary, Dominic Raab, holds talks in pakistan where more than Three Million afghan refugees are already living. We will support those regional partners, particularly like pakistan, who i can imagine is very concerned about the risk of numbers coming across the border. Police shoot dead a violent extremist who stabbed and injured six people in New Zealand. Ministers consider raising national insurance to fund Social Care reform, despite a conservative Election Promise not to increase taxes. Footballs world Governing Body, fifa, investigates Last Nights events in hungary where England Players were racially abused during their 4 0 win. And an unbeaten 0llie Pope half century restores englands fortunes in the fourth Test against india. Good Afternoon And Welcome to bbc news. In the last hour, government advisers have decided against recommending covid Vaccines for all 12 to 15 year olds, because there would only be a marginal gain. The decision from Thejoint Committee on vaccination and immunisation comes as children begin to return to school after the summer holiday. But the committe is widening the roll out for children in that Age Bracket who have underlying Health Conditions. Around 200,000 more young people will be eligible for a jab. 0ur Health CorrespondentJim Reed is here. Talk to us, tell us first about the decision and how they reached this conclusion. It decision and how they reached this conclusion. ,. My decision and how they reached this conclusion conclusion. It is a tricky decision, uuite a conclusion. It is a tricky decision, quite a controversial conclusion. It is a tricky decision, quite a controversial one. Conclusion. It is a tricky decision, quite a controversial one. Otherl quite a controversial one. Other countries around the world, france, germany, the us, have already either agreed to offer the Vaccine to children or have already vaccinated. In the case of the us, hundreds of thousands of children in that Age Group. The question was should be do the same it . Very heated debate within the jcvi, the same it . Very heated debate within thejcvi, we think, which is the group that advises the government on Vaccine-decisions'>Vaccine Decisions and they came to be decision in the last hour that on health grounds alone there is not enough evidence to vaccinate healthy children in that 12 to 15 year old Age Group. But there is a second part of this decision which important. Thejcvi, this remit was only to look specifically at health grounds. There is another group, which is Chief Medical Officer, which are now being asked to look at the wider context, still focusing on children, but asking is there an argument that tips the balance along the lines of a look at the disruption to schools . Look at the fact that children might be sent home if someone in their class is infected or they are infected at themselves and cut that tipped the balance and allow healthy children in that group to be vaccinated . It is the Chief Medical Officers he will go and have that debate. We are expecting them to come back and report in the coming days. Come back and report in the coming Da S. ,. ,. , come back and report in the coming da 5. ,. ,. , days. How it now it was the margin . We are talking days. How it now it was the margin . We are talking about days. How it now it was the margin . We are talking about relatively i we are talking about relatively narrow benefits. How narrow was the margin . When you are looking at the margin . When you are looking at the risk of children of that Age Group developing a serious illness from and the risk of them getting the Side Effects, how narrow and at Lower Risk are we talking . That the sideeffects, how narrow and at Lower Risk are we talking . Lower risk are we talking . That is exactly why Lower Risk are we talking . That is exactly why this Lower Risk are we talking . That is exactly why this decision Lower Risk are we talking . That is exactly why this decision has i Lower Risk are we talking . That is | exactly why this decision has been so difficult. We know the risk of a serious Covid Infection in young children is very, very low but we also know there are some Side Effects associated with any medical treatments including Vaccines. In this case, we know is that Side Effects in children from clinical trials, and seeing what is going on in other countries, also very low, so it is trying to weigh those two risks and benefits up. In the case of children, there is one potential Health Problem which scientists are looking into, an inflammation of the Heart Muscle, and there is some indication that especially after the second dose of a pfizer Vaccine, the young boys in particular are seeing higher rates of that. It is still a very, very rare, we are talking 12 to 13 cases per million in that Age Group. It is still possible, so they had to look at that and the benefits and that is what has pushed them towards this decision at The Moment. When they say they will do now is go forward and keep monitoring the rates of this Health Problem in other countries. The mhra will keep a close eye on it in this country as well in that group that is still being vaccinated to see how large that risk is. Being vaccinated to see how large that risk is that risk is. They must be quite confident the that risk is. They must be quite confident the risk that risk is. They must be quite confident the risk is that risk is. They must be quite confident the risk is relatively l confident the risk is relatively rather low, because they are widening out the vaccination to those with underlying Health Conditions for stock that is exactly balance you are about earlier. In healthy children, the risk of infection is incredibly low. The risk of severe disease is slightly higher for those with underlying Health Conditions and that changes the rest balance. We know already that certain children and that 12 to 15 year old Age Group with severe issues with their immune system, so going through chemotherapy or radiotherapy, are already being offered the Vaccine, so that was about 15,000 children. They are now extending that to another 200,000 children across The Uk, or the offer at least, and that is for children with things like chronic lung conditions, chronic heart conditions, chronic heart conditions, chronic heart conditions, chronic liver conditions will stop it will be offered to more children as a result, but maybe 250,000 children in The Uk that will now be offered this. In that Age Group because the whole of The Uk, including healthy children, about 3 Million. So still a small group that will be offered it, at least for The Moment. ~ will be offered it, at least for The Moment. ,. , will be offered it, at least for The Moment. ~ ,. , will be offered it, at least for The Moment. ,. ,. Will be offered it, at least for The Moment. ~ ,. , moment. Thank you very much for brinuain moment. Thank you very much for bringing us moment. Thank you very much for bringing us uptodate moment. Thank you very much for bringing us uptodate with i moment. Thank you very much for bringing us uptodate with that. L and if you have questions forJim Reed on this announcement, wed like to hear from you. You can get in touch on twitter using the hashtag bbcyourquestions and you can email us on yourquestions bbc. Co. Uk. Christina pagel is a a professor of operational research at University College london and a member of the independent sAge Group of scientists scrutinising the governments handling of covid. Thank you very much Forjoining Us. What do you make of the conclusion that weighing it all up, the benefits of vaccinating 12 to 15 year olds are just not worth it . I mean, ijust cannot agree and it is a decision that you have already noted is out of step with pretty much every other high Income Country thatis much every other high Income Country that is proceeding with this and the who, the European Centre for Disease Control or that recommend vaccinating 12 to 15 year olds. Ons released a Report Yesterday on a long covid and are currently estimating that one in 1000 children right now had long covid for more than a year. That has not been considered by the jcvi than a year. That has not been considered by thejcvi as than a year. That has not been considered by the jcvi as far as than a year. That has not been considered by thejcvi as far as i can tell. They say they are worried about the risks of myocarditis but it is six times higher risk of getting that from than if you get vaccinated, so it makes no sense to me. ,. ,. ,. , vaccinated, so it makes no sense to me. ,. ,. ,. ,. , me. They would argue it is a case of a really delicate me. They would argue it is a case of a really delicate balance me. They would argue it is a case of a really delicate balance here i me. They would argue it is a case of a really delicate balance here and i a really delicate balance here and looking at the potential Side Effects of the inflammation of the heart in this condition, which is more common in young people, particularly young boys, after the second dose, that is it something they cannot dismiss and presumably they cannot dismiss and presumably they will have a this up against the probability of children in that group developing covid as a serious illness. So it is a finely balanced. Illness. So it is a finely balanced. Illness. So it is a finely balanced. � ,. , balanced. But it is not. If they are saying balanced. But it is not. If they are saying it balanced. But it is not. If they are saying it is balanced. But it is not. If they are saying it is finely balanced. But it is not. If they are saying it is finely balanced l balanced. But it is not. If they i are saying it is finely balanced and they have to produce the evidence that shows that. They have to show the analysis that gives you the risk of benefit to not vaccinating children, because every other country has come to a different conclusion. The us cdc publish their analysis that showed there was benefits to children and just in terms of myocarditis, it is that something like 60 per million in young boys compared to 450 per million if they get covid, so you have to say where is that benefits are to not vaccinating . There is some risk to children but the risks of vaccinating is far lower. Their rollinu of vaccinating is far lower. Their rollin it of vaccinating is far lower. Their rolling it out of vaccinating is far lower. Their rolling it out to of vaccinating is far lower. Their rolling it out to children of vaccinating is far lower. Their rolling it out to children in i of vaccinating is far lower. Their rolling it out to children in that l rolling it out to children in that Age Group with underlying Health Conditions. ,. ,. , conditions. Yes, and to me the mottled and conditions. Yes, and to me the mottled and we conditions. Yes, and to me the mottled and we can conditions. Yes, and to me the mottled and we can get conditions. Yes, and to me the i mottled and we can get protected, the better. The more children we can get protected. How have they made that determination . Presumably they have access to data that is not public, but publish that, publish analysis that says this makes sense for this reason. They have not done that, they did that when they delayed second doses injanuary which they decision i support it because they laid out a careful analysis of the benefits. Why are we not seeing its now . Analysis of the benefits. Why are we not seeing its now . What do you fear the im act not seeing its now . What do you fear the impact will not seeing its now . What do you fear the impact will be not seeing its now . What do you fear the impact will be of not seeing its now . What do you fear the impact will be of this the impact will be of this conclusion of this report and of not rolling out universal Vaccination Programme for 12 to 15 year olds . I mean, we will see many more children get covid. Over this term. And we already have the highest rates in children that we have seen at the end ofjuly last year at the end of time, there is no reason to say that will not happen again. Sage a couple of weeks ago said they expect to see very high rates of children coming back and we are seeing very high rates in parts of the us and israel and now in scotland cases are going up, so that is what we will see. Children will be off school for ten days if they isolate, a big study that came out on long covid and kids suggested one in seven might develop long covid. We wind up with more illness, more transition, and we do not need to. Illness, more transition, and we do not need to not need to. Their argument is the erfihood not need to. Their argument is the likelihood of not need to. Their argument is the likelihood of serious not need to. Their argument is the likelihood of serious Illness Likelihood of serious illness amongst children as a result of covid, on balance, is lower than the rest of these Side Effects. Im rest of these sideeffects. Im sor , rest of these sideeffects. Im sorry. But rest of these sideeffects. Im sorry. But it rest of these sideeffects. Im sorry. But it is rest of these sideeffects. Im sorry, but it is not rest of these Side Effects. In sorry, but it is not good enough just to say on balance will stop you have to publish the numbers, you have to publish the numbers, you have to publish the numbers, you have to publish the evidence on which you are saying that. Just asserting on balance is not enough. That is not a science. That is not evidence based decision making. All asking for is clearly you have come to a different conclusion to the rest of the world, but can you please publish the evidence for that conclusion . ,. ,. , ~ please publish the evidence for that conclusion . ,. ,. ,. , conclusion . Christina, thank you very much conclusion . Christina, thank you very much for conclusion . Christina, thank you very much for your conclusion . Christina, thank you very much for your time conclusion . Christina, thank you very much for your time and i conclusion . Christina, thank you very much for your time and for| very much for your time and for sharing your thoughts there with us. Lets stay with the covid news at The Moment because we have some Breaking News to bring you and that is about the laTest estimates on the number of people infected with covid 19 in The Uk. It is based on the office for national Statistics Survey, which shows a sharp increase in scotland. Its estimated that infections have doubled there in the last week 1 in 75 people would Test positive for the virus in scotland, the highest since records began there last autumn. Compared to the previous week, rates have remained level in england and wales and have decreased in Northern Ireland. I willjust bring you the laTest figures on covid cases in The Uk. The uk reports 42,076 new covid 19 cases on friday and that is an increase compared to 38,154 on thursday. Those are the laTest figures on the number of covid cases in The Uk with reports that there are 42,076 new covid cases. The R Numberfor England has fallen slightly, according to the laTest estimate published this afternoon. Government scientists say that the current R Number for england is around one, ranging from 0. 9 to 1. 1. If the R Number is above one the epidemic is growing and if below one it is likely to be shrinking. An R Number of one means on average every infected person is passing the virus on to one other person. Good Afternoon And Welcome to bbc news. The foreign secretary, Dominic Raab, says hes had constructive discussions with his counterpart in pakistan about securing Safe Passage from afghanistan for people entitled to settle in The Uk. Pakistan is crucial in the mission to help people flee afghanistan because the two nations share a land border. He told a News Conference in islamabad that britain was sending £30 Million of aid to help afghanistans neighbours cope with refugees. He also said Uk Experts were heading to the region to co ordinate efforts. This report from our diplomatic correspondent james landale. For anyone trying to flee afghanistan by land, this is the kind of Border Crossing TheyllFace Wire fences, armed guards and queues of refugees not going anywhere fast. This is torkham to the east of kabul, one of the main gateways to pakistan. In normal times, thousands cross it every day. Now, its just a trickle. Translation at present the taliban are just standing by waiting, theyre not settled yet. Once theyre in full power, then we will know if the situation here will improve or not. This morning Dominic Raab visited torkham to see for himself the reality that afghans linked to the Uk And British Nationals would face if they arrived here hoping to flee the taliban. There are already about Three Million afghan refugees in pakistan and after talks with his counterpart, the foreign secretary heard first hand the countrys concerns about adding to theiR Number. Can we block them . Well, we cant. Can we regulate them . Yes, we should. Are there risks . Yes, there are. Mr raab said britain would shoulder its responsibilities and announced £30 Million of humanitarian aid to provide Shelter And Sanitation for refugees. Well support those regional partners, particularly like pakistan who i imagine is very concerned about the risk of numbers coming across the border. We want to make sure we can support those partners in the Region Deal with that. As for the people of afghanistan, Mr Raab said any aid would be channelled through charities and not the taliban. But he promised more dialogue with the group. Without it, he said, britain could not have evacuated more than 15,000 people from kabul airport. We need to try and forge a stronger group of countries and a wider group of countries around those basic issues. More inclusive government, Safe Passage out, no Safe Haven for terrorism, the humanitarian lifeline that its in all sides interests to see allowed and preserved to preserve regional stability. But aid and refugees often have to cross by land and these mountains show how hard that may be. Diplomats say there is a real risk of a Refugee Crisis in afghanistan and its not clear yet what the outside world might do to avoid it. And much depends on how the taliban choose to govern. For now, the celebrations of victory continue, with more parades of seized american military equipment. James landale, bbc news. The government has refused to deny reports its planning to increase national insurance and has said a way has to be found to fund Social Care adequately in england. It comes after the former Health Secretaryjeremy Hunt said the government must Bite The Bullet and raise taxes because the sums needed for both Nhs Funding and Social Care were, as he put it, Eye Watering. But any increase in national Insurance Or Income tax would breach the commitment the conservatives made in their election manifesto. Jonathan blake has more. It is not talking about it in public but it is pretty clear there is a discussion ongoing at the heart of government between the Prime Minister, the chancellor and the Health Secretary about how to pay for what everyone accepts is a much needed reform of the social Care System in england. And it appears they are ready to go against a Manifesto Commitment not to raise national insurance, vat or Income Tax in order to pay for that. What will be a hugely expensive and costly reform as well as funding the nhs in tandem along with that to the tune of perhaps something in excess of £5 billion to allow it to attempt to clear the backlog caused by the coronavirus pandemic. This is Something Borisjohnson promised to do on the first day he became Prime Minister to fix the problem of Social Care once and for all. But the problem he seems to be faced with is the only viable way of doing that involves him breaking that Manifesto Commitment. So the numbers, the details, by no means confirmed, but an announcement could come as early as next week and the debate is under way about whether this is a wise move or not. As you say, the former Health Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, has had his say and has said that while national insurance is not the best or fairest way to do it because It Disproportionally hits younger earners in society, a Tax Rise is no doubt needed. Well, i think the answer is a Health And Care premium, something that could help relieve the pressure on the nhs in the short term, but then move into the transformation of the social Care System we need in the more medium term. It is a Tax Increase, i do not think we should call It Anything other than a Tax Increase, but the reason i call it a Health And Care premium is because i think it is a better route than national insurance which for example is not paid by working pensioners. I think since older people are the biggest beneficiaries of this extra investment, it is fair that they should make a contribution. Any Tax Rise is always a hard sell and this will be harder still for borisjohnson, because it will involve him potentially breaking that Manifesto Commitment that was made before the 2019 General Election and it will be a hard sell too not only to the public, many of whom will pay large amounts still, even if a Tax Rise is brought in to reform Social Care, pay large amounts towards care if it is needed themselves individually, but to conservative mps for whom Raising Taxes is largely repellent. The Justice Secretary, robert buckland, was asked on Bbc Breakfast this morning how he felt about going against that Manifesto Commitment. I think what we said in the manifesto about Social Care is that no one has a monopoly of wisdom about these issues and the british public are sensible enough to know that when it comes to the issue of Social Care, we have to find some way in which it will be adequately funded. As i said, i will not start speculating as to precisely what that will entail, but having a grown up conversation with people is what you should be doing and im glad to see that that is certainly happening in the context of Social Care. So a grown up conversation about a sustainable Funding Model for the long term, as the Justice Secretary was saying there, code for this is going to be difficult and it is going to be costly and it is going to hit people One Way or another in their pockets. Borisjohnson perhaps in the coming days, once the details are finalised, although we are told that no decisions have been made yet, will be preparing his arguments in order to make the case for a Tax Rise which he will say is needed in order to reform Social Care sooner rather than later. Footballs world government body, fifa, is investigating racial abuse by hungary fans towards England Players during last Nights World Cup qualifier in budapest. England condemned the abuse as completely unacceptable and borisjohnson has urged fifa to take strong action against supporters who made monkey noises and threw objects onto the pitch during the game, which england won 4 0. Natalie pirks report. The atmosphere was hostile from the very start in the puskas arena. Pleas not to boo Englands Antiracism Gesture of taking the knee fell on deaf ears. That is disappointing, so disappointing. I led largely by the ultras. But as the night grew on, it got much worse. England players were pelted with plastic cups and some faced monkey chants from the stands by some of the so called ultras. I dont think our players can do anything more than they have done over the last two or three years in trying to get the right messages out, take the right stands, and its for other people to protect them, its for me to protect them in the main, but for the authorities to protect them as well. Many feel racist Fans Shouldnt have been there in the first place. Hungary were handed a three Match Ban by uefa, European FootballsGoverning Body, for Racism And Homophobia this summer. But because last Nights Game was a World Cup Qualifier, under fifa, the Ban Hadnt kicked in. This was a match that really should have been played behind closed doors. Hungary have been sanctioned for three matches with one suspended by uefa following events at the euros. Reallyjust five or six weeks ago. And then to see them playing a full House Match against a big racially diverse team like england was disappointing. This morning, in budapest, there was sadness at what happened. The racism is very much a problem here in hungary. Maybe they need to travel more around the world and see how other people behave. A report containing Video Evidence of the racism is now with fifa, but hungarys Foreign Minister dismissed the atmosphere Last Night as simply hostile, and similar to what italy faced at wembley in the european final. England does have its own problem with racist abuse in football, but for hungary, more sanctions are surely heading its way. Natalie pirks, bbc news. Joining me now is shaista aziz, a Football Fan and anti racism campaigner, who launched a petition after the euro 2020 final, calling for people who carry out racist Abuse Online to be banned from matches for life. So far, 1. 2 Million have signed up. Thank you very much Forjoining Us. First, what is your reaction to the behaviour of hungry� s fans Last Night . Behaviour of hungrys fans last niuht . ,. ,. , behaviour of hungrys fans last niuht . ,. ,. , night . Decent person anywhere in the world who watch night . Decent person anywhere in the world who watch that night . Decent person anywhere in the world who watch that Match Night . Decent person anywhere in the world who watch that match would i night . Decent person anywhere in the world who watch that match would be | world who watch that match would be disgusted by what happened. Im saddened,. They have faced a number of sanctions already, hungry, so one has to ask why does the football Governing Body not respond to what happened yesterday . It does not surprise anyone, the Racism And Bigotry that was on the spray, manifest in the way they did, but it does break my heart to see the England Team are subjected to that. An 18 year old footballer went to Work Yesterday to do his job and this is how he is treated. They were there to carry out their work as professional footballers and lets not pretend otherwise, plenty of young people, particularly children, were watching that Game Yesterday and ifind it disgraceful that in 2021 there are grotesque levels of overt Racism And Bigotry that people are being subjected to as football players and Football Fans. This are being subjected to as football players and Football Fans. Are being subjected to as football players and Football Fans. This is a roblem players and Football Fans. This is a problem that players and Football Fans. This is a problem that sport players and Football Fans. This is a problem that sport has players and Football Fans. This is a problem that sport has been i players and Football Fans. This is a I Problem that sport has been plagued with for absolutely ages. We have been talking about trying to kick racism out of football for so long and yet here we are. What do you think needs to happen to actually make a difference and stop this happening again . It is make a difference and stop this happening again . It is happening as art of happening again . It is happening as part of wider happening again . It is happening as part of wider racism, happening again . It is happening as part of wider racism, specifically i part of wider racism, specifically becoming more and more mainstream, especially in the european continent. We know there are specific issues in hungarian society in relation to racism, as there are in relation to racism, as there are in this country. Gareth southgate is right to say we cannot just in this country. Gareth southgate is right to say we Cannotjust Point the finger at what is happening in hungary, we had a look at what is happening closer to home. Only a few weeks ago at wembley, our national focal team were suggested to grotesque levels of racism. Subjected to grotesque levels. The Governing Body have to decide whether they wanted to do something about this. We have bureaucracy that is preventing a different governing bodies from taking unified decisions in relation to stamping out racism and for too long there has been a lot of chitchat from governing bodies in relation to racism, but they are not taking this seriously. It is notjust me and campaigners like us, Ian Wright Yesterday was horrified like the rest of us and he made it very clear saying that footballing governing bodies are not taking this issue of racism seriously enough, they are not prioritising it. Ithink seriously enough, they are not prioritising it. I think we need to be far more transparent and open from footballing governing bodies and they need to understand the need to work collectively and come up with an Action Plan and they need an Action Plan in work. We cannotjust have more plans, it is horrific this happened but it does not surprise anyone, they should have mitigated the risk. They have opened up players to harm, which is grotesque, but subjected Football Fans to harm as well. Racism has psychological impact on people who are affected by it and it has harmful effects on the wider society as well so we need action. flit wider society as well so we need action. ,. , action. Of course the governing bodies have action. Of course the governing bodies have criticised action. Of course the governing bodies have criticised the i action. Of course the governing | bodies have criticised the racism that has happened, and it is not something they condone at all, but in terms of action, you say you wanted to see action done, but what do you think would make a difference . I do you think would make a difference . Do you think would make a difference . ~. Difference . I think the main thing is football governing difference . I think the main thing is football governing bodies i difference . I think the main thing is football governing bodies have| difference . I think the main thing i is football governing bodies have to come together and they have to sing from the same hymn sheet. They are not doing that at The Moment. More importantly, they have to show they will put resources into tackling racism in football and the governments involved as well and tech companies need to do the same. As campaign is launched a petition that had 1. 2 Million signatures so far. We have had meetings with the fa and been very underwhelmed with the response to our campaign so far. There are lots of nice words being exchanged but where is the action . It has been missing for a very long time and i think Football Fans have had enough and the football Governing Body is needed to listen to fans, because of 1. 2 Million of them are demanding antiracist action in our country, i think it is about time they started developing antiracist Action Plans. Thank you for our antiracist Action Plans. Thank you for yourtime a man who stabbed and wounded at least six people at a supermarket in New Zealand has been described by the countrys Prime Minister as a violent extremist. The Sri Lankan man was shot and killed by police. Jacinda ardern said he had been known to authorities. Our Correspondent Phil Mercer reports. The attacker was under 24 Hour Surveillance when he began his rampage at a supermarket in auckland. It lasted less than a minute, but six people were wounded, some of them seriously. He stabbed this woman when she came out, i was going in. I went down to the other end, there was an old gentleman, european man, lying on the ground. Jacinda ardern, the New ZealandPrime Minister, said the assailant was shot dead by the police within 60 seconds of the attack starting. What happened today was despicable. It was hateful, it was wrong. It was carried out by an individual, not a faith, not a culture, not an ethnicity. But an individual person who was gripped by ideology that is not supported here. Senior officers have insisted that Armed Police intervened as quickly as they could. The reality is that when you are surveilling someone on a 24 7 basis, it is not possible to be immediately next to them at all times. Staff intervened as quickly as they could and they prevented further injury in what was a terrifying situation. The man, a Sri Lankan national, arrived in New Zealand a decade ago, was identified as a national Security Threat in 2016 and had been monitored ever since. Despite his dangerous views, there was no legal reason for him to be detained. We have utilised every legal and Surveillance Power available to us to try and keep people safe from this individual. Many agencies and people were involved. This act of violence will stir painful memories in New Zealand of the deadly Mosque Attacks in christchurch in march 2019, when a gunman, a self confessed white supremacist, murdered 51 worshippers. Once again, the Nations Isolation has been no defence against extremism. Phil mercer, bbc news. Now its time for a look at the weather with louise lear. Any sign of summer . It is on its wa. At any sign of summer . It is on its way at the any sign of summer . It is on its way. At the beginning any sign of summer . It is on its way. At the beginning of any sign of summer . It is on its l way. At the beginning of summer any sign of summer . It is on its i way. At the beginning of summer for way. At the beginning of summerfor some of us in the south east, it has been miserable in august. Some sunshine in cambridgeshire, warmth to come over the south and east. A little bit of rain that areas where we needed, primarily scotland and Northern Ireland. Lets look at what to expect for saturday. Starting a grey note, more in the way of cloud, thick enough for drizzle but the brakes will develop out to the west, highs of 22 by the middle of the afternoon. Fast forward to sunday, the Weather Front will move from the West End that will bring outbreaks of rain, but as that high Pressure Drift East it will allow the Wind Direction to come from the south east so potential for more sunshine across england and wales and with that light southerly breeze temperatures will start to climb. Further north and west, top temperatures not quite as one, highest values of 24. That is it, enjoy your weekend. Hello, this is bbc news. Im luxmy gopal. The headlines. The governments scientific advisers say the benefit of vaccinating healthy 12 15 Year Olds would only show a marginal gain. The foreign secretary, Dominic Raab, holds talks in pakistan where more than Three Million afghan refugees are already living. Police shoot dead a violent extremist who stabbed and injured six people in New Zealand. Ministers consider raising national insurance to fund Social Care reform, despite a conservative Election Promise not to increase taxes. At least 45 people are now known to have been killed in devastating Flash Floods in the North East of the United States. And Footballs WorldGoverning Body, fifa, investigates Last Nights events in hungary where England Players were racially abused during their 4 0 win. Sport and for a full round up, from the Bbc Sport centre, heres chetan pathak. Good afternoon. Great britain have passed the 100 Medal Mark at this three golds on day ten. World t44 Highjump ChampionJonathan Broom edwards, a Silver Medallist in rio, went one better this time by clearing 2. 10 metres with his second attempt for gold. Owen miller, making his paralympic debut, put in a strong final lap to win the t201500 metres in three minutes 54. 57 seconds, ahead of russian alexander rabotnitskii. And canoeist Emma Wiggs was victorious in the Vl2 200m event, the first time that this particular canoe has been raced at the paralympics. She won gold when Para Canoe made its debut in rio. I was just wanting to get down the course and deliver the race my coach would be proud of. It was that relief of crossing the line and realising we had done it, and it was our Dream And Goal and we managed to deliver it. Id imagined my family on the most spectacular bridge at the end of the course. For the last year and a half, i have put them on that bridge in visualisation. I paddled my heart out to get to them. It was a bit overwhelming when i actually got there. England will hope their tail can wag in the final session at the oval, theyre 8 wickets down having edged into the lead on day theyre 9 wickets down having edged into the lead on day two of the fourth Test against India England were three wickets down overnight then lost Craig 0verton and Dawid Malan this morning to leave them in big trouble. Butjonny Bairstow And Ollie pope helped them recover before bairstow was out lbw after lunch. But pope went on to pass 50 and helped england into the lead alongside first Moeen Ali and then chris woakes. England are 255 9, a lead of 64. Lewis hamilton missed most of second practice at the Dutch Grand Prix with an Engine Problem as Charles Leclerc led home a ferrari one two. Hamilton, the reigning World Champion, was forced to bring his mercedes to a halt early in the session following engine trouble, he finished in 11th, when running resumed it was leclerc who set the Surprise Pace with Team Mate carlos sainz close behind. Alpines Esteban Ocon was third, ahead of mercedes Valtteri Bottas and red bulls max verstappen. Fifa says its investigating racial abuse aimed at England Player RaheemSterling And Jude bellingham during thursdays World Cup Qualifier in budapest. Prime Minister Borisjohnson has urged fifa to take strong action against those responsible to ensure that this kind of disgraceful behaviour is eradicated from the game for good. Piara powar is the executive director of the football against racism in europe network. Seeing scenes like that with monkey chants and black players being targeted is something that has been going on for a very, very long time in European Football and it is something that is now, you know, the time must be now to do more to tackle this and to make sure that everything that is possible to tackle this abuse is being done. And arsenal women have completed the signing of United States forward and two time World Cup Winner tobin heath. The 33 year old spent last season at Manchester United where she scored four goals in eight league games before an Ankle Injury and won a Bronze Medal with the us at this summers olympics. And theres Build Up to the new womens super League Season on the Bbc Sport Website ahead of tonights opening game between Manchester United and reading. Thats all the sport for now. Lets get more now on the news that government advisers have decided against recommending covid Vaccines for all 12 15 Year Olds, because there would only be a marginal gain. The decision from Thejoint Committee on vaccination and immunisation comes as children begin to return to school after the summer holiday. But the committee is widening the roll out for children in that Age Bracket who have underlying Health Conditions. Around 200,000 more young people will be eligible for a jab. Earlier Paul Hunter, professor of medicine at the university of east anglia, explained to me some of the reasoning behind thejcvis decision. If we are going to vaccinate our children it has got to really be in their interest and not in Societys Interest interest to vaccinate them, and so it is a difficult decision but i believe thejcvi has some of the best experts in the world to make these sort of decisions and i think they have given this substantial amount of thought and i would certainly support the decision they made today. How do we square this with the fact that 12 15 Year Olds are being vaccinated in other parts of the world, such as israel, such as israel, italy, france, the us . We have seen already in this pandemic situations where jcvi have actually taken views different to that elsewhere and in particular different to that in the states. The classic example for this was the delay in rolling out the Vaccine, increasing the gap between the first and second dose and on that occasion, jcvi was absolutely correct to make that decision and as a result of that, has saved many thousands of lives and so i thinkjcvi has to make its own decision, based on the data as it sees it and i think it is one of the most skilled organisations, committees on the world in judging Vaccine requirements. Of course, what was looked at here is the potential benefit for children themselves, rather than society as a whole. But what is the impact on, for example, schools staying open, on transmission within the community . Probably not as great as a lot of people would imagine, actually, because when we look at the first wave of this pandemic, schools played a really important role in Transmission And Closing schools across europe had a big downward pressure on the transmission. But as the pandemic has gone on, more recent studies have shown that actually schools being open or closed have had a decreasingly important role in the roll out of the pandemic. There was a Paperfrom Oxford only a few, about a month ago, showing that in the second wave, schools were a lot less important than in the first wave. So yes, schools almost certainly will be associated with some increase in transmission, but it is doubtful that will be a huge impact on the epidemic. Certainly looking at the way things have gone over the last few months. This, of course, is not necessarily conclusive change in policy or, it will then be referred to scientific advisers in coming weeks to make the decision. But we have also had comments from people about more generally how ethical it would be to vaccinate children when there are such large numbers of adults in the global population who have not had a chance to be vaccinated yet . Yes and that is an extremely valid point. Certainly there are a lot more people around the world who would benefit from vaccination now than we have got Vaccines for and using Vaccines for marginal benefit, when really there are still places around the world that desperately need even the most vulnerable being vaccinated, i think there is a strong ethical argument against rolling out Vaccine as well. Professor Paul Hunter there. In afghanistan, the taliban still havent announced details of a new government. There are reports too that the last remaining armed opposition against them is intensifying as fighting continues in the Panjshir Valley, just a few hours from kabul. So what is happening there . Lets take a look closer look. Panjshir is a mountainous region and famous for also Holding Out against the soviet army in the 1980s and the taliban in the 1990s. Thousands of fighters are thought to have massed there, refusing to give up. The anti taliban movement calls itself the national Resistance Front of afghanistan. You can see their fighters here in a series of training drills. Its made up of a multiethnic group of militias and former afghan Security Force members. Theyre led by this man, ahmad massoud. Hes the son of the late ahmad shah massoud, known as the lion of panjshir, a powerful Guerilla Commander who led an army of resistance fighters against the soviets former Vice PresidentAmrullah Saleh is also in the Panjshir Valley. He has claimed that under the constitution, he is now the caretaker president. Out against the taliban . Ali nazari is a spokesman for the national Resistance Front of afghanistan. He said that reports of the taliban entering the valley are untrue and that theyve inflicted casualities on the taliban. The taliban movement launched their largest offensive Last Night and they thought that they could subdue the province before they announced their new government, a unilateral move. However, fortunately, the attacks were repelled, they suffered heavy casualties Last Night. They have not been able to enter the valley even an inch for the past week, they have suffered casualties. The reports we received in kabul, hospitals inside kabul is filled with injured taliban fighters, who have been sent from the front lines back to kabul and hospitals in kabul are filled with these fighters. We have imprisoned more than 50 taliban, so we not only have theyve been killed or injured, but many of them have even surrendered in large numbers. But the taliban tells the bbc the exact opposite. They say. In the capital kabul, theres still no sign of a new taliban government being announced. Our chief international Correspondent Lyse Doucet sent this update from The City. Days ago, the taliban posted photographs on Social Media of huge piles of white taliban flags at the president ial palace, saying that everything was ready now for a Grand Ceremony to introduce the new government, but ever since then, every day, including today, we are told by a taliban spokesperson that today will not be the day. They are not saying why theres a delay, but we understand that one of the big reasons is that they have been boasting that they now control more of afghanistan than they did when they were in power in the 1990s. But this time, there is still this last redoubt, resistance coming from the Panjshir Valley in eastern afrghanistan, one of the smallest of areas with the biggest of legends, with thousands said to be Holding Out, commanded by a 32 year old son of the legendary commander, ahmad shah massoud. His son, ahmad massoud, must feel the hand of his father upon him. He has said he is willing to negotiate with the taliban, but there is no sign that that is working and in the last 24 hours, both sides are reporting heavy fighting, both sides are reporting casualties and i would imagine, as always in these battles, it has been thus for many, many years in afghanistan, there is a bit of facts and a bit of exaggeration and fabrication. But a big question is how long can this very defiant resistance hold out against a very defiant taliban . Here in kabul, the taliban are still struggling to get the capital itself on its feet. The qataris are bringing in technical experts to try to get the flights going at kabul international airport. We hear that the United Nations has resumed some of its humanitarian aid flights going to the northern city of mazar i sharif, the southern city of kandahar where airfields are now operating, but there are still massive queues at the Bank Branches which are open here. And still a great deal of uncertainty amongst afghans as to what kind of an islamic government will emerge and what kind of rules and regulations will govern their lives. In kabul, visible signs of a new regime taking control appear everyday. Our Colleague Secunder Kermani has been on the streets this morning where painters are at work. For years, these blast walls, painted over with bright and inspiring murals, had been a colourful feature in kabul. Now you can see womens faces have been blacked out and the taliban have told decorators to paint over all of this, replacing it with these black and white slogans. This one reads, the blood of the martyrs has washed away the occupation. A glimpse of what the new afghanistan is going to look like. Omaid sharifi is an artist whose murals have been painted over by the taliban, he fled afghanistan last week with his family and is now in a Refugee Camp in abu dhabi. He runs the Arts Organisation artlords in afghanistan. 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So that. Be punished for creating something beautiful, you will be punished for creating music, for painting about unity and love, you will be punished for that, thats another level of fear and i have concern for all those artists we have left behind and they only want to just have a voice, have the liberty and the choice to paint, to talk and to share their ideas of art. Whig choice to paint, to talk and to share their ideas of art. Why do you think the simple share their ideas of art. Why do you think the simple act share their ideas of art. Why do you think the simple act of share their ideas of art. Why do you think the simple act of painting i share their ideas of art. Why do you think the simple act of painting a i think the simple act of painting a mural of creating art, is something that puts someone at risk from the taliban . I that puts someone at risk from the taliban . ,. , taliban . I believe because i left Durin Taliban . I believe because i left during the taliban . 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What kind of reaction have you had or what. What kind of reaction have you had orwhat. Have what kind of reaction have you had or what. Have you felt in danger or what. Have you felt in danger or threatened in the past when you have created art over the decades . Trust in you when i say this, we were facing suicide attacks, kidnappings, harassment from the government, corruption, but we loved what we do. We love painting, creating movies because we had the choice, i could have stayed in kabul and criticised anyone i wanted, against the government, those people are pressing us, and i was not feeling safe. When i came home in the morning i was not sure i was going back alive. Going back alive. Last year they killed my sisterinlaw, going back alive. Last year they killed my sisterinlaw, during| killed my sister in law, during these eight years we have been working, it was not an easy work but we loved it because this was our country, our responsibility and we had a responsibility to do art. Right now, they are taking that away from us, leaving their identity behind isjust from us, leaving their identity behind is just to from us, leaving their identity behind isjust to have from us, leaving their identity behind is just to have this voice, just to be able to talk to you and share my anger, my rage, because i would not be able to live in kabul, we started. The paintings and artworks, its an extension of us, you are destroying part of ourselves, to be able to breathe and survive and this is not a life we have to live. We do not deserve this after all we have given to this country. After all we have given to this count. ~ after all we have given to this count. , i. , after all we have given to this count. ,. ,. , country. 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He denies engaging in conduct in preparation for terrorism acts. He has pleaded not guilty to disseminating terrorist publications through a library on the encryptor to messaging app, telegram but has been found guilty at the old bailey of plotting acts of terrorism. The us president , Joe Biden, claims the destruction caused by Hurricane Ida and its aftermath proves that the Climate Crisis is here. Ida had been downgraded to a storm, but Flash Flooding in the North East of the United States is known to have killed at least 45 people. In New York, people drowned while trapped in Basement Apartments and cars, as simonjones reports. The destruction in the words of the us president , Joe Biden is everywhere. Its a matter of Life And Death and we are all in this together, he said. Emergencies have been declared in newjersey and in New York. Dramatic rescues for people stuck in their cars. The governor said the Heavens Opening had brought Niagara Falls levels of water to The City. Hundreds of people were stranded on subway trains. Up above, the streets were quickly flooded. At some points, we were experiencing three to four inches of rain in one hour, causing all the flooding and people getting trapped in their cars. More of an issue was people getting trapped in their basements where they live, and thats how a lot of people died as well. In pennsylvania, normal ways of getting around had to be abandoned, replaced by boats. I woke up to a lot of people banging on my door and just a lot of noises in my house, basically, coming from my basement. And i went downstairs and saw about six feet of water in my basement, and opened the front door and noticed the entire street was about four or five feet high with all the cars submerged in water. Pretty crazy. The record amounts of rainfall in such a short space of time, caused by the remnants of Hurricane Ida, seemed to take everyone by surprise. We were staying at the residence inn, when the waters rose much higher and faster. Than we ever anticipated. And we found ourselves trapped. Climate experts say change is needed. We have 20th century or even 19th century cities in some places in the United States, and a Brave New 21st century climate. So there is a mismatch between what we have built in our Cities Today and the Climate Reality that face modern cities. In california, it is fires rather than flooding that are causing chaos. The past few days of Hurricane Ida, the wildfires in the west and the unprecedented Flash Floods in New York and newjersey is yet another reminder that these extreme storms and the Climate Crisis are here. The time to act, he says, is now. But keeping a lid on future Destruction Wont be easy. Simon jones, bbc news. Now its time for a look at the weather with louise lear. Good afternoon. Summer 2021 has been pretty disappointing for southern and eastern england. Its been rather cloudy and at times, it has been often wet. So, as you can see, this will come as welcome news, im sure. Beautiful, clear blue Sky And Sunshine in hampshire. Still quite a lot of cloud around generally today, but the best of the sunshine is certainly across southern england and that cloud is breaking up and pushing that little bit further north as we go through the remainder of the afternoon. Still a little disappointing along exposed east coasts and here, noticeably cooler, but as we go through the night, tonight, we see more cloud returning. Thick enough for a spot or two of drizzle in places, may be a little bit of mist and for forming under those clear skies towards the South And West but its going to be a relatively mild starting saturday. A quiet start to saturday, risk of a few showers through the channel isles, perhaps just across the cornish foot as well. Slowly improving as we go through the day, The Cloud will thin and break, we will see some sunshine coming through for some, and temperatures peaking at 22. This is bbc news, the headlines at 5pm. The governments scientific advisers say they wont recommend giving covid Vaccines to all 12 15 Year Olds because there would only be a marginal gain. Experts say there was a lot to weigh up. If were going to vaccinate our children, its got to really be in their interests, and not in a Societys Interests, to vaccinate them. And well be talking with professor adam finn, from Thejoint Committee on vaccination and immunisation, who made the recommendation in the next few minutes. Ministers consider raising national insurance to fund Social Care reform, despite a conservative Election Promise not to increase taxes. Police shoot dead a violent extremist who stabbed and injured six people in New Zealand