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There should be a designed � safe zone� at Kabul Airport for afghans wishing to leave. Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are olivia utley, assistant Comment Editor at The Telegraph and richard duggan, editor of Essex And Cambridgeshire live. Tomorrows Front Pages. Starting. The i, which has an image of one of the final us flights to leave kabul it says thousands of people who helped western forces have been left behind. The telegaph quotes the head of the raf, who says his force is prepared to launch fresh Air Strikes against the islamic state in afghanistan. An image of the remains of Vehicle Hit by a us Drone Strike in kabul is on the front of the guardian. Its thought seven children were among the dead. Thats a picture of afghan refugees arriving into kosovo on the front of the ft, which also says the eu is preparing to impose Covid Travel restrictions on the us. Ending 20 years of conflict there. Afghan thats a picture of afghan refugees arriving into kosovo on the front of the ft, which also says the eu is preparing to impose Covid Travel restrictions on the us. An exclusive in the mail, which says disposable nappies could be taxed to encourage parents to switch to green alternatives. Might make will discuss some of those top stories now. We will discuss some of them. Taking us off, the Front Page of the guardian which really is the top story this evening. Chaos and bloodshed as the last us flight leaves kabul. Its last us flight leaves kabul. Its absolutely last us flight leaves kabul. It� s absolutely horrible this story. This family of nine or ten its not completely clear who have been killed by a us Air Strike which was trying to strike isis. There was a car that was on its way to Kabul Airport and is eminently about the cause of mass destruction. Sent this onto it and there were as a secondary explosives reported and that indicates that there was some sort of bombs on board the Scar And Sort of bombs on board the scar and so thats the story of this whole family that had just been slaughtered and its proof of what happens when you Pull Out of the country like afghanistan after a 20 Year War so soon and with so few revisions and save evacuations. Your thou~hts revisions and save evacuations. Your thoughts on revisions and save evacuations. Your thoughts on this revisions and save evacuations. Your thoughts on this was revisions and save evacuations. Your thoughts on this was yellow will make it is devastating, i cannot will make it is devastating, i cannot imagine what it will be like for them, cannot imagine what it will be like forthem, Notjust Cannot imagine what it will be like for them, notjust because the fear but also for them, notjust because the fear but also the fact that isis there as well but also the fact that isis there as well and but also the fact that isis there as well. And like many of us are asking, well. And like many of us are asking, was the point in the last last 20 asking, was the point in the last last 20 years with the current evacuation, what is happened and the locals evacuation, what is happened and the locals of evacuation, what is happened and the locals of afghanistan have delivered this now locals of afghanistan have delivered this now and it breaks your heart. This is this now and it breaks your heart. This is coming from a micron taliban spokesman. They are trying to gain complete independence. That is their take on it. What happens next, olivia . That is their take on it. What happens next, olivia . Is their take on it. What happens next, olivia . ,. , next, olivia . At the moment, for the last cou le next, olivia . At the moment, for the last coople of next, olivia . At the moment, for the last couple of weeks, next, olivia . At the moment, for the last couple of weeks, we next, olivia . At the moment, for the last couple of weeks, we have next, olivia . At the moment, for the last couple of weeks, we have seen l last couple of weeks, we have seen the taliban talking about lowering their Carbon Emissions and protecting womens rights and sync of course, women would not be subjugated to any sort of horrible restrictions, but the taliban is backin restrictions, but the taliban is back in charge and this is our new phase and there have been some western commentators who have taken their word for it and saying yes, perhaps it is a different taliban and we should give them a chance. But quite a lot of people, given whats been happening in the past few days and their response to people who are trying to escape the country, quite a lot of people think now that the us is out completely in that we will be back to the Order Taliban which is going to be rewinding 20 years. The taliban just waited us out while the us and uk ran out of power and time and support back home. I think what is most likely next is a reversal. Back to 2001. Taliban continues were left off. Fury in fear as the last fli. Hts left off. Fury in fear as the last flights leave left off. Fury in fear as the last flights leave kabul left off. Fury in fear as the last flights leave kabul as left off. Fury in fear as the last flights leave kabul as the left off. Fury in fear as the last flights leave kabul as the headline there. We have the resolution that was voted through earlier tonight at the un security council. Three key points and im not sure if youre fully aware of them but much of it was the safe departure of those wanting to leave and the humanitarian crisis and the Terror Threat and afghanistan not becoming a safe haven. That headline on the front of the Eiffel Subject and understand that, cant you . Fury in fear . It understand that, cant you . Fury in fear . , , , fear . It sums it up pretty well. That is what fear . It sums it up pretty well. That is what the fear . It sums it up pretty well. That is what the people fear . It sums it up pretty well. That is what the people of that is what the people of afghanistan have to face now for the foreseeable and no matter what is being foreseeable and no matter what is being said foreseeable and no matter what is being said from the us and Uk Governments, it doesnt give much hope governments, it doesnt give much hope in governments, it doesnt give much hope in the governments, it doesnt give much hope in the way of a very chaotic exit from hope in the way of a very chaotic exit from the country and very shocking exit from the country and very shocking things that are on the front shocking things that are on the Front Page, talking about Drone Strikes Front Page, talking about Drone Strikes to Front Page, talking about Drone Strikes to destroy Military Hardware and going strikes to destroy Military Hardware and going hand in hand in the question and going hand in hand in the question is and going hand in hand in the question is why was that not removed before question is why was that not removed before the question is why was that not removed before the taliban got their hands on them before the taliban got their hands on them. The relationship that we all hear on them. The relationship that we all hear so on them. The relationship that we all hear so much about and the pentagon all hear so much about and the pentagon is blaming the uk for the Death Pentagon is blaming the uk for the Death Toll Pentagon is blaming the uk for the Death Toll and thats really shocking claim there and the death of those shocking claim there and the death of those ten afghan civilians really dominates most of the front Pages Today~ dominates most of the front Pages Today at dominates most of the front Pages Today. At the end of the day, its very today. At the end of the day, its very easy today. At the end of the day, its very easy to today. At the end of the day, its very easy to commentate on warfare and these very easy to commentate on warfare and these are innocent people who are going and these are innocent people who are going to die and half died as result are going to die and half died as result of are going to die and half died as result of the taliban taking charge now~ result of the taliban taking charge now. , telegraph obviously this is a new line. Britain Raf Art talking about launching a fresh amount of strikes. A us also confirming that they would be continuing strikes with the thought appropriate. What do you make of this . That britain is also confirming or The Telegraph is reporting so . Confirming or The Telegraph is reporting so . There is a piece inside the reporting so . There is a piece inside The Telegraph reporting so . There is a piece inside the Telegraph And Reporting so . There is a piece inside the Telegraph And Chairman of the defence select committee saying that what we should have always done afghanistan was once we defeated the immediate threat of alanda, we shouldve pulled out of afghanistan but said he will come back and strike again and keep the Taliban En Garde Rather Thanjust Strike again and keep the Taliban En Garde rather than just abusing all of our resources to Nation Build is we have for the last 20 years. So there will be people who will say this will shouldve been doing for 20 years because we shouldve held the talibans feet to the fire. And it think it was quite a good Letter Forjoe Biden to climb down because hes really put himself in a corner with this leaving by the 11th of september, he has been very gung ho about it. More so than Donald Trump every was and these are willing to come back should the need arise. Medicines will move and give everyone a letter to climb down. What do you think the british public will make of that . Truth . What do you think the british public will make of that . What do you think the british public will make of that . Why were leaving if the taliban will make of that . Why were leaving if the taliban have will make of that . Why were leaving if the taliban have come will make of that . Why were leaving if the taliban have come back, if the taliban have come back, should if the taliban have come back, should we if the taliban have come back, should we not of done Something Else should we not of done Something Else its should we not of done Something Else. Its very divisive issue that is been else. Its very divisive issue that is been going on for 20 years this been is been going on for 20 years this been a is been going on for 20 years this been a lot is been going on for 20 years this been a lot of Commentary And Debate about been a lot of Commentary And Debate about it been a lot of Commentary And Debate about it i been a lot of Commentary And Debate about it. I think a of people will be glad about it. I think a of people will be glad that were notjust abandoning, not totally abandoning afghanistan to the mercy of the taliban afghanistan to the mercy of the taliban and to isis k, but i thought it was taliban and to isis k, but i thought it was really interesting that the head it was really interesting that the head of it was really interesting that the head of the Air Force has been really head of the Air Force has been really honest and said that actually, no matter what we can do. It actually, no matter what we can do. It will actually, no matter what we can do. It will be actually, no matter what we can do. It will be unavoidable that there will be it will be unavoidable that there will be civilian casualties No Ntatter will be civilian casualties no matter how hard we prevent them at i thought matter how hard we prevent them at i thought those quite a powerful thing to say thought those quite a powerful thing to say. Because i said this before, that is to say. Because i said this before, that is the to say. Because i said this before, that is the horrible reality of warfare that is the horrible reality of warfare in the situation afghanistan. Civilians are going to die and afghanistan. Civilians are going to die and notjust at afghanistan. Civilians are going to die and not just at the afghanistan. Civilians are going to die and notjust at the hands afghanistan. Civilians are going to die and not just at the hands of the taliban die and not just at the hands of the taliban and die and not just at the hands of the Taliban And Isis k, there will be from Taliban And Isis k, there will be from the Taliban And Isis k, there will be from the us and uk france. How and where the intelligences from the us and uk france. How and where the intelligences coming where the intelligences coming Number One for those us strikes, those Drone Strikes considering looking forward, that there arent going to be in neat forces, us forces Uk Forces or any allied forces Uk Forces or any allied forces in afghanistan of the question is, where is the intelligence going to come from . That is really interesting Point And Weve seen in the past couple of days, i was struck by the reports of this family that had been killed and no one seems to know exact facts. It doesnt matter but for the sake of the report, a large family had died in the age of the children and the exact place that the incident happened is a bit vague and its because we dont know or have the eyes on the ground any more and yet, as you say, the Uk Government in the us government is saying that we will strike when we are prepared to come back, but how will we know that the taliban, if it has changed at all, is propaganda thats become a lot more professional and we have seen taliban leaders on twitter and these very smooth press conferences. We will get one line from afghanistan at the taliban and the reality will probably be very different but how will we know. That is one very good reason to keep a very small presence in afghanistan that so many people are now saying that is maybe what we should have done. But Public Opinion is very interesting because it has shifted dramatically. Theyre pretty fickle on this. They wanted troops out of afghanistan a few months ago. Those are a clear and now it is all gone totally wrong and they changed their mind. It will be interesting to see how they respond to What Happens Next. To see how they respond to What Happens Next to see how they respond to What Happens Next. Going to the front. A I E happens next. Going to the front a~e of happens next. Going to the Front Page of the happens next. Going to the Front Page of the independent. Happens next. Going to the Front Page of the independent. Or happens next. Going to the Front Page of the independent. Or striking image there and theyre reflecting on 20 years as they describe it of violence on the dark and certain future facing afghanistan. I want to pick up on something that olivia mentioned and thatis something that olivia mentioned and that is theyve come back refreshed, they are little bit more savvy, but what are your thoughts on the new taliban. It what are your thoughts on the new taliban. ,. Taliban. It is rebranding and Social Media has been taliban. It is rebranding and Social Media has been a taliban. It is rebranding and Social Media has been a huge taliban. It is rebranding and Social Media has been a huge part taliban. It is rebranding and Social Media has been a huge part of taliban. It is rebranding and Social Media has been a huge part of the strategy~ media has been a huge part of the strategy~ I Media has been a huge part of the strategy. Ijust think media has been a huge part of the strategy. I just think that they strategy. Ijust think that they may see one strategy. Ijust think that they may see one thing about womens rights. I see one thing about womens rights. I dont see one thing about womens rights. I dont believe it but even if they were i dont believe it but even if they were to i dont believe it but even if they were to allow some very minor changes, were to allow some very minor changes, what about Lgbt Rights and others changes, what about Lgbt Rights and others people in afghanistan now will be others people in afghanistan now will be fearing for their lives and have will be fearing for their lives and have not will be fearing for their lives and have not been able to escape the country~ have not been able to escape the country. Thus the people who will not see country. Thus the people who will not see any country. Thus the people who will not see any kind of respite under the extremist views of the taliban, No Ntatter the extremist views of the taliban, no matter what theyre saying. That will not no matter what theyre saying. That will not change. | no matter what theyre saying. That will not change. Will not change. I want to slip in another front will not change. I want to slip in another Front Page will not change. I want to slip in another Front Page of will not change. I want to slip in another Front Page of that will not change. I want to slip in i another Front Page of that we just received and i appreciate that you havent had sight of It Olivia and richard, but its the Front Page of the times in the headline there is that the pentagon, calming deaths in the top line is that americans kept the top line is that americans kept the gate open despite the Terror Threat and order to help the british. Its questions of what happened when that family, that family of ten relations and those accusations are going to keep coming. Accusations are going to keep cominu. , accusations are going to keep cominu. , , coming. Yeah, because the reports are is so thin coming. Yeah, because the reports are is so thin and coming. Yeah, because the reports are is so thin and varying, coming. Yeah, because the reports are is so thin and varying, it coming. Yeah, because the reports are is so thin and varying, it is are is so thin and varying, it is easy for other countries to turn on each other and further countries its difficult to know what the truth is and Joe Biden is the special relationship is looking pretty weak with boris and turning back on boris and the sole Blame Game is coming out and with so little concrete fact with no journalists, we have seen there so many fantastic journalists and afghan he who have been reporting so bravely and until theyve gone, we did not realise we had been having those eyes on the ground was very important. Weve seen from here on out its going to be pretty hazy and lots of room for interpretation which means lots of room for disagreement and lots of room for countries to really turn on each other and whether we are already seeing. I other and whether we are already seeina. , other and whether we are already seeinu. ,. , other and whether we are already seeinu. ,. ,. , , seeing. I want to clarify. This is referrin seeing. I want to clarify. This is referring to seeing. I want to clarify. This is referring to the seeing. I want to clarify. This is referring to the last seeing. I want to clarify. This is referring to the last of seeing. I want to clarify. This is referring to the last of the seeing. I want to clarify. This is| referring to the last of The Gates On Thursday which killed at least 170 afghans and 13 us personnel and thatis 170 afghans and 13 us personnel and that is referred to in the times. Lets turn now to the Front Page of the ft and the us covid I9 Search six talks about the Eu Thread for travel restrictions, richard . {line six talks about the Eu Thread for travel restrictions, richard . One of the big differences, travel restrictions, richard . One of the big differences, or travel restrictions, richard . One of the big differences, or the travel restrictions, richard . One of the big differences, or the main the big differences, orthe main similarities between the us and the uk is similarities between the us and the uk is we similarities between the us and the uk is we have seen the Doctor Varian taking uk is we have seen the Doctor Varian taking hold uk is we have seen the Doctor Varian taking Hold And Weve seen a rise in cases taking Hold And Weve seen a rise in cases the taking Hold And Weve seen a rise in cases. The difference is the infection cases. The difference is the Infection Rate the us has risen dramatically in the past 14 days and 300 cases

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