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The dont have that information readily available. ,. , dont have that information readily available. ,. , � available. The reason youre getting cuestions available. The reason youre getting questions about available. The reason youre getting questions about the available. The reason youre getting questions about the intelligences i questions about the intelligences two days questions about the intelligences two days before, the intelligence did not two days before, the intelligence did not show the country was about to falter did not show the country was about to falter the taliban, thats why you are to falter the taliban, thats why you are receiving questions about the intelligence of thIs target, how serious the intelligence of thIs target, how serious these IsIs fighters wear. | serious these IsIs fighters wear. I understand and i understand people are not going to enter the details of the intelligence that goes into that. 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Was some Reporting Yesterday Control on either Civilian. Was some Reporting Yesterday that the taliban were in control of the gates and then there was reporting that we were shutting down all Evacuation Operations in the course of the day. My Point Yesterday was those are not true. We are not shutting down Evacuation Operations, were going to continue to The End. We are still in charge of the airport. We are still in charge of security at the airport. What was true a few days ago Is still true today. The taliban have checkpoints around the airport in a loose perimeter, but they are not manning gates, they are not at the airport doing anything like that. Thea;t gates, they are not at the airport doing anything like that. They are not at the airport . Doing anything like that. They are not at the airport . Ok. Doing anything like that. They are not at the airport . Ok. Going doing anything like that. They are | not at the airport . Ok. Going back not at the airport . 0k. 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You are not giving the names of the individuals but you i names of the individuals but you know names of the individuals but you know them . Do you know that nationality of the individuals kitted nationality of the individuals kitted in nationality of the individuals killed in the joan straight . We know who they are killed in the joan straight . We know who they are. The killed in the joan straight . We know who they are. The one killed in the joan straight . We know who they are. The one who killed in the joan straight . We know who they are. The one who was who they are. The one who was wounded was who they are. The one who was wounded was the who they are. The one who was wounded was the facilitator who they are. The one who was wounded was the Facilitator Orl wounded was the Facilitator Or Planner . Wounded was the Facilitator Or Planner . | wounded was the Facilitator Or Lanner . , �. ,. , planner . I dont have that information. Planner . I dont have that information. Have planner . I dont have that information. Have the planner . I dont have that. Information. Have the taliban planner . I dont have that information. Have the taliban Given Ou an information. Have the taliban given you any indication information. Have the taliban given you any indication they information. Have the taliban given you any indication they will information. Have the taliban given you any indication they will not information. Have the taliban given you any indication they will not let i you any indication they will not let afghanIstan to be used as a Launching Pad for terrorIst attack against Launching Pad for terrorIst attack against us friends and allies . Can Ou Sa against us friends and allies . Can yOu Say that against us friends and allies . Can yOu Say that one again . During i against us friends and allies . Can i yOu Say that one again . During your conversation yOu Say that one again . During your conversation with yOu Say that one again . During your conversation with the yOu Say that one again . During your conversation with the taliban conversation with the taliban leadership have they given any assurance to you that they will not let afghanIstan be used as a Launching Pad for terrorIst attacks against Launching Pad for terrorIst attacks against us, friends and allies. They made assurances against us, friends and allies. They made assurances as against us, friends and allies. The made assurances as part of against us, friends and allies. Ti9 1 made assurances as part of the against us, friends and allies. Ti91 made assurances as part of the Doha Agreement about affiliation with alqaeda and terrorIsm, terrorIsm groups operating from afghanIstan, they said as part of the Doha Agreement. D0 they said as part of the Doha Agreement they said as part of the doha arreement. I. ,. ,. , they said as part of the doha arreement. ,. ,. , , agreement. Do you have any idea of the level or agreement. Do you have any idea of the Level Or Type agreement. Do you have any idea of the Level Or Type of agreement. Do you have any idea of the Level Or Type of fighter agreement. Do you have any idea of the Level Or Type of fighter that the Level Or Type of fighter that has flowed the Level Or Type of fighter that has flowed into the Level Or Type of fighter that has flowed into afghanIstan. Has flowed into afghanIstan recently . Has flowed into afghanIstan recently . I has flowed into afghanIstan recentl . , ,. , , recently . I do not. Ok we are going to call It A recently . I do not. Ok we are going to call It A day recently . I do not. Ok we are going to call It A day. I recently . I do not. Ok we are going to call It A day. I appreciated recently . I do not. Ok we are going to call It A day. I appreciated very i to call It A day. I appreciated very much. Thank you all for coming today, i appreciated. That much. Thank you all for coming today, i appreciated. Much. Thank you all for coming today, i appreciated. That Is where the ress today, i appreciated. That Is where the Press Briefing today, i appreciated. That Is where the Press Briefing comes today, i appreciated. That Is where the Press Briefing comes to today, i appreciated. That Is where the Press Briefing comes to a today, i appreciated. That Is where | the Press Briefing comes to a close. It was hosted by major general Hank Taylor and also the pentagon press secretary, john kirby. They talked about the scale of the Evacuation Operation over the last few days. 32 military Aircraft And 3a Coalition Aircraft have departed with coast 7000 Military Personnel on board. In terms of Civilian evacuees, there are 117,000 people taken to Safety Pentagon said, most of them were afghans. A lot of questions as you wont be surprIsed to hear, about the Drone Strike that was launched against IsIs-k'>IsIs K, we will talk about them in a moment. There have been two high profile targets killed according to that press conference. It happened in the province bordering pakIstan and was part of the response Joe Bordering pakIstan and was part of the Responsejoe Biden promIsed after that Suicide Bombing at Kabul Airport on thursday in which nearly 170 people died, 13 us Military Personnel. The group know as Is k said it had carried out an attack outside Kabul Airport on thursday that may have killed as many as 170 people, including 13 us troops. Joining me now Is andrew mines, a Research Fellow at George Washington Universitys Programme on extremIsm, whos been tracking Is k for a number of years now. You are the expert. They are a new name and seem to go by lots of Different names. Lets establIsh who they are and what they are known as first. , , they are and what they are known as first. ,. ,. ,. ,. , first. The Islamic state are the Official Ranch first. The Islamic state are the Official Ranch of first. The Islamic state are the Official Ranch of the first. The Islamic state are the Official Ranch of the Islamic first. The Islamic state are the I Official ranch of the Islamic Ise'>State FranchIse but they used to cover afghanIstan, pakIstan now the focus on afghanIstan, there was a split in 2019. You can call them 115 k, people call them IsIs-k'>IsIs K, officials call them IsIs-k'>IsIs K, they all refer to the same group which Is the official branch of IsIs in afghanIstan. What branch of IsIs in afghanIstan. What Is their stated branch of IsIs in afghanIstan. What Is their stated aim . Branch of IsIs in afghanIstan. What Is their stated aim . Their branch of IsIs in afghanIstan. What Is their stated aim . Their stated i Is their stated aim . Their stated aim Is to bb Is their stated aim . Their stated aim Is to Bb Beachhead Is their stated aim . Their stated aim Is to Bb Beachhead for Is their stated aim . Their stated aim Is to Bb Beachhead for the i aim Is to Bb Beachhead for the movement, the Islamic State Movement in afghanIstan. They are a Pivot Point of the broaderjihad the organIsation sees so they are supposed to establIsh a foothold for the group in afghanIstan. I read they are down to about 3000 fighters in total . Estimates have fluctuated. Upwards of 8000 now. The most recent one before the Ison-break'>PrIson Break we have and of well about 2000 sk fighters eventually fled during the takeover when about 1500 2000. So if we assume those immediatelyjoined the ranks of IsIs-k'>IsIs K, thats probably around 3000. When they formed, they were predominantly pakIstani taliban, Afghan Taliban and members from another group called the Islamic movement of uzbekIstan. Now they are being whittled down to basically thIs Core Group of hardened pakIstani taliban and other veteranjihadIsts, former hardened pakIstani taliban and other veteran jihadIsts, former members and younger urban afghans. Irate veteran jihadIsts, former members and younger urban afghans. We ust had the pentagon i and younger urban afghans. We ust had the pentagon say i and younger urban afghans. We ust had the pentagon say two � had the pentagon say two high profile targets have been taken out, thIs will affect the capability of Is k but they are not complacent. What impact will aid drones like thIs have on an group like Is k . Mr; thIs have on an group like Is k . IjI1 Colleague and i thIs have on an group like Is k . Ij� I1 Colleague and i have looked at the loss they have suffered and it suffered a 500 Leadership Level losses and 10,000 members, an extraordinary rate of decline over the years. Essentially what happens in 2019 Is the group basically declared defeated. We have seen time and again thIs group with a franchIse in Iraq And Syria they are able to move through thIs period in relative decline, put people in place we can carry the organIsation through, by their time, place we can carry the organIsation through, by theirtime, pursue place we can carry the organIsation through, by their time, pursue the same strategic method of attacks on government and Civilian targets and then with consolidate control and territory. Thats what they have done for several months. Itruths territory. Thats what they have done for several months. Who funds them . In done for several months. Who funds them . In the done for several months. Who funds them . In the early done for several months. Who funds them . In the early days, done for several months. Who funds them . In the early days, there done for several months. Who funds them . In the early days, there were estimates of them . In the early days, there were estimates of upwards them . In the early days, there were estimates of upwards of them . In the early days, there were estimates of upwards of upwards i them . In the early days, there were estimates of upwards of upwards of| estimates of upwards of upwards of 100 Million at the time was channelling through to afghanIstan. Lower estimates are 100,000 a month, thats one of the Core Pillars of their funding. Month, thats one of the Core Pillars of theirfunding. Some of the funding Is when the assert Control And Influence into dIstricts and other areas in afghanIstan. They extort local trade routes, minerals, timber, those sorts of things and also the Civilian populations. When they rolled over periods for a short period of time they will take teacher salaries. Period of time they will take teacher salaries. How would you characterIse teacher salaries. How would you characterIse their teacher salaries. How would you characterIse their relationship i teacher salaries. How would you i characterIse their relationship with the taliban in afghanIstan which controls most of the country . Thea;t controls most of the country . They see them as controls most of the country . They see them as their controls most of the country . Ti91 see them as their strategic rivals and picked him out because they need to present themselves as the only viable option for people who see themselves aligned more towards the jihadIst ideology, the legacy of jihadIst ideology, the legacy of jihad that has been going on for decades in afghanIstan. They are the only viable option, they can be no collaboration, any agreements with the west are null, not valid, the only real presence in afghanIstan that should be considered legitimate. Irate that should be considered legitimate. That should be considered lecitimate. 9 ,. , , legitimate. We saw the brutality of the Islamic state legitimate. We saw the brutality of the Islamic State Group legitimate. We saw the brutality of the Islamic State Group in legitimate. We saw the brutality of the Islamic State Group in syria legitimate. We saw the brutality of| the Islamic State Group in Syria And Iraq when they were trying to create a caliphate. How does thIs group compare in terms of its aims, its tactics . , , compare in terms of its aims, its tactics . ,. ,. , compare in terms of its aims, its tactics . , , , , ~ tactics . They are very similar. We see much of tactics . They are very similar. We see much of the tactics . They are very similar. We see much of the same tactics . They are very similar. We see much of the same Thing Tactics . They are very similar. We see much of the same thing we i tactics . They are very similar. We i see much of the same thing We Saw tactics . They are very similar. We see much of the same thing We Saw in the build Up To 2014 in Iraq And Syria, we see the group intimating in afghanIstan over the last several months. PrIson breaks, We Saw them last year and We Saw them recently targeting government personnel, minorities We Saw that in Iraq And Syria and we see that in afghanIstan. It sends a strategic message of the groups are the same. In terms of geographical reach, who are they going to be most problematic for . The taliban within afghanIstan or other countries in the region or even beyond that internationally . Internationally . Right now and eseciall internationally . Right now and especially from internationally . Right now and especially from what internationally . Right now and especially from what we internationally . Right now and especially from what we can i internationally . Right now and i especially from what we can tell about where the Air Strike occurred, it Is in the areas where IsIs-k'>IsIs K had formally consolidated territorial console in Southern Manga her they have sat there for years leveraging other groups in the area, Use Cross Border routes to bring fighters and bring supplies in. We are likely to see them try to set up shop again. Its are likely to see them try to set up shop again shop again. Its fascinating, im sure we will shop again. Its fascinating, im sure we will talk shop again. Its fascinating, im sure we will talk to shop again. Its fascinating, im sure we will talk to you shop again. Its fascinating, im sure we will talk to you again i shop again. Its fascinating, im| sure we will talk to you again as IsIs-k'>IsIs Ks foothold in afghanIstan continues, if they manage to cement It Any further and it sounds like they might. Thank you. It any further and it sounds like they might. Thank you. Our Correspondent Simonjones has been given more details about the winding up of Evacuations Effort of afghan Civilians in kabul. ThIs has been the operation over the past couple of weeks, to get out britIsh citizens and also interpreters and other staff who have helped the britIsh authorities over the past couple of decades in afghanIstan. The mod made it clear that today would be the final flights carrying just Civilians would leave Kabul Airport heading for the uk. Just after 1pm we got confirmation from the mod that the final flight for Civilians had left. There will be further flights during the course of the weekend but the focus will be to get out Military Personnel. Around 1,000 britIsh troops have been in afghanIstan in recent days, some have already returned. There may be space on the flight for Civilians, but it Is going to be largely military and diplomatic personnel taken out on the final flights. Other people of course left behind. Someone who has been a presence at the airport has been the Uk Ambassador to afghanIstan, sir laurie brIstow, and he posted on Social Media a film he made about hIs final thoughts. The team here have been working to the very last moment to evacuate britIsh nationals, afghans and others at rIsk. Since the 13th of august, weve brought nearly 15,000 people to safety and about 1,000 military, diplomatic and Civilian personnel have worked on Operation Pitting in kabul, and many, many more elsewhere. Thursdays terrorIst attack was a reminder of the difficult and dangerous conditions in which 0peration Pitting has been done and, sadly, i attended here yesterday the ceremony to pay our respects to the 13 us soldiers who died. Its time to close thIs phase of the operation now but we havent forgotten the people who still need to leave. We will continue to do everything we can to help them. Nor have we forgotten the brave, decent people of afghanIstan. They deserve to live in peace and security. Sir laurie brIstow, the britIsh ambassador to afghanIstan. As he said, there are more people eligible who have not been able to get out. What happens to them . The government are keen to talk about the fact they have got out around 14,500 britIsh citizens, afghan interpreters, over the past couple of weeks but it Is thought hundreds more people who would be eligible to come to the uk are still in afghanIstan. What will happen to them Is unclear. The government Is saying that what Is ending today and thIs weekend Is really only The End of phase one of thIs operation and it Is going to look in a second phase to bring eligible people to the uk but it Is unclear how that system will work. It Is likely to require cooperation of the taliban if it will be international flights, people may be asked to go to land borders, but how processing would work Is not clear. Plus the uk has committed to taking around 5,000 refugees direct from the region in the first year, Up To around 20,000 over the next four or five years. We are told from the Home Office we are going to get more details thIs week of how that scheme Is going to work but certainly it has been a very complex couple of weeks and those complexities are likely to continue as the uk looks to get more people out of afghanIstan, even once direct flights have ended. Earlier i spoke to colonel richard kemp, a former commander of britIsh forces in afghanIstan who also worked with the uk joint intelligence committee, and he gave me hIs assessment on how the Evacuation Operation has gone in kabul. I think it was a tremendous effort by all of the international forces and diplomats and others involved and i would like to pay tribute particularly to britIsh forces who put their own lives at huge rIsk in order to save others and also our diplomatic team on the ground in kabul. ThIs situation did not need to happen. The evacuation could have begun months ago and should have done and now we are left with not only western military forces killed during the Operation But Weve got probably at least 1100 people who were due to leave and entitled to leave under britIsh rules to come back and come to the uk, who have helped our Security Forces and the embassy in kabul as well. Those people still needing help very much on everyones minds. How perilous Is thIs period . Now it Is Military Personnel getting on planes with diplomatic Staff And Retreat . I wouldnt describe our forces as retreating. The retreat was by the government when thIs began, but i think our forces are now conducting an operation they have prepared for to withdraw from the airport but the dangers to them as they do so are immense. They will take every step they can to ensure they get into the aircraft and get safely off the ground but of course the dangers remain. You mentioned how much of a mess thIs whole process has been. How concerned should everyone be about where afghanIstan Is heading now . Bearing in mind so much of that Military Hardware has been left behind. I think it Is a hugely problematic situation for the 1,100 or so who are left, People Britain wanted to get out. They have become hostages now in afghanIstan and if the government decides to negotiate to get their release then the taliban will ask a very high price. I think we will see the taliban, who have used some fine words talking about diversity and inclusivity, that will now finIsh when western forces get out, they dont need to say those things any more, and the country will descend into the same kind of horrors that exIsted during their previous of governing. The country will become again a very dangerous Safe Haven for terrorIsts. They will flock into the country from around the world, jihadIsts, and Plan Attacks against us. Maybe not immediately but in the relatively short to medium term we will see that threat opening up again. You have no faith that the taliban have changed . I have no faith at all. You shouldnt forget that the taliban Is not a single coherent organIsation. Even if the people saying these things are saying what they think, which i doubt, that doesnt necessarily run across the whole of the taliban groupings and factions in afghanIstan. You asked about the weapons left behind. They are now one of the best armed, if not the best armed terrorIst organIsation in the world. A lot of the more sophIsticated equipment like Attack Helicopters and Surveillance Equipment and the like, the sophIsticated stuff they will not be able to operate, except for maybe one or two cases. The main threat comes from the small arms and explosives left behind. Members of the scottIsh greens have backed a deal which could see the partyjoin the scottIsh government with the snp. Patrick harvie and lorna slater, pictured here with first minIster nicola sturgeon, said the agreement promoted a Sustainable Scotland that works for everyone. The final decIsion still needs to be agreed by the scottIsh greens party council, a decIsion Is expected shortly. Coronavirus plans for schools in england have been described as a recipe for chaos by education unions, who say they will not be enough to prevent a rIse in infections. The government said it has updated its advice on how to respond to an outbreak with minimum dIsruption to education. At the paralympics games in tokyo, britIsh sprinters Thomas Young and Sophie Hahn have both taken gold in the t38100 metres. It was the first time that Thomas Young, whos 21 years old, had broken 11 seconds. Earlier i spoke to hIs parents, bridie and rob. Coming Up To tokyo he had done 11. 03 and obviously hIs previous personal best was in dubai at 11 seconds, but he has always wanted to aim to beat the 11 seconds and it was so great because today he did it. And what a place to do it. Rob, what were you thinking when you watched him run . You dont have long to actually see him in action, do you . No, it felt a bit surreal. It was just so amazing and i was so emotional, i didnt know what to do. From the interview i have read, he said he wasnt even thinking about the medal, he was only thinking about how fast he had run. It Is doubly impressive for him. Yes, he has been watching the time. He has done a couple of previous bests but coming Up To these games he has been doing 11. 17, 11. 22, so i was pleased to see he had done under 11. Hoping in the last couple of weeks he would be able to do It And he has come through. I love the fatherly understatement, i was quite pleased, thats wonderful. Tell us about hIs running hIstory. When did you first spot he was quick . He always liked running around and playing football as a child and then many years ago he was chatting to a teacher at school who said what aboutjoining a club . So he joined charnwood athletics, i think in 2013, in loughborough, down the road, and he went on and on from there. And he loved it so much hejust kept going and going, literally, and didnt stop. From starting out there, he found something he loved and something that he turned out to be really good at. He used to run round the block here just to exercIse, and sometimes id say go for your run and he would come back and id say you cant have been that quick, and that was when we noticed how quick he was. And thIs Is hIs first olympics, and a gold First Time Out do you know what hIs aspirations are for the future . When he comes home he will keep training hard every day all the time and he will be looking forward to the Home Commonwealth games next year because obviously hopefully by then we will be allowed to have a full stadium of fans for all the athletes to cheer them on. Then hell be looking forward to the next worlds and training for parIs. Who does he get the speed from . Definitely not from me rob has always been quite sporty. Im not very sporty. I like sport but im not great myself, apart from swimming. Well, thats good enough. Rob, its all down to you but i bet you cant keep up with him these days no, no One Day ill tell you a story about that but not now. I know shepshed, so next time im back in leicestershire i might drop in. You are more than welcome. Thank you. I know would be, thats the way we do things in leicestershire thanks for speaking to us. Now its time for a look at the weather with darren bett. Hello there. As far as Bank Holiday weekends go, thIs Is one of the better ones and it was a good start to the weekend for englands cricketers. For anybody hoping to see a full days play at headingley, such as Yorkshire Lad here, it was a bit dIsappointing. Weve had a day of sunshine at headingley, had a day of sunshine in central scotland where we have seen the highest temperatures today. You can see from the fields its very dry. Its been a very dry summer for scotland. It has not been the case elsewhere across the uk and in europe, there has been a lot of heavy showers today. One or two light showers clipped the South East early on, those are pretty much gone now. With High Pressure in charge, should be dry overnight. Clear skies for many areas to start with but more cloud will come down from the north into scotland, Northern Ireland and the far north of england, so these Areas Wont be as chilly as they were Last Night. Further south with clear skies, temperatures in rural areas could easily get down to six or seven. Heading into sunday and much cloudier day than today, across scotland, Northern Ireland and northern england. It could be quite grey across much of the northern scotland, North East england, one or two spots of drizzle. Elsewhere, it should tend to brighten up a little. Sunnier skies further south. Some patchy Fairweather Cloud developing through the day and still quite breezy in East Anglia and the South East of england and our top temperature probably be 20 21. Cooler than that for Eastern Scotland and the North East of england under the cloud. We got High Pressure in charge thIs weekend, still there into next week. The centre of the highs to the North West of the uk and it means the winds around It Are feeding in off the North Sea. Those winds will drag in a lot of cloud around on monday. There may not be too much in the way of sunshine. The best of the sunshine will be towards the western side of the uk where we are more sheltered from whats likely to be a stronger wind in many areas on monday, and that wind off the North Sea will make it feel cold around some of those North Sea coasts, the best temperatures out towards the west, again 20, possibly pushing 21. Tuesday looks fairly similar. If there Is any sunshine first thing, it may fill up with cloud a bit more, a lot of cloud on the scene again on tuesday and again a fairly brIsk wind coming in too. Those temperatures are not going to change very much. Near some Eastern Parts of the uk, temperatures only 16 or 17. With High Pressure in charge throughout the week, its going to be dry, quite breezy, some sunshine and again, the best of the sunshine in the west. ThIs Is bbc news. The headlines at five the final Uk Flight to evacuate Civilians from afghanIstan has left kabul. The minIstry of defence says further flights will bring Home Uk diplomatic staff and Military Personnel. The us military says one of its drones has taken out an Islamic State Group planner following thursdays attack, which killed as many as 170 people at Kabul Airport. Concerns about rIsing Covid Infection rates as large crowds expected to flock to beaches and festivals over the Bank Holiday weekend. Members of the scottIsh greens have backed a deal that could see its leaders in government for the first time. Two World Records for the britIsh cycling couple, Husband And Wife Lora And Neil fachie, who are amongst seven gb paralympians to win gold today

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