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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are jason beattie, Assistant Editor of the Daily Mirror and sian griffiths, Education Editor of the sunday times. Tomorrows front pages, starting with. The guardian says britain has begun a last Ditch Scramble to get people out of kabul amid warnings from the senior diplomat on the ground that staying past the 31st of August Deadline may not be realistic and risks provoking the taliban. While the Financial Times Sastoe Biden the � i says the uk is pressurising President Biden to extend the evacuation deadline, but the taliban are warning of � consequences� if western troops stay any longer to continue their refugee airlifts. The metro highlights a taliban Spokesman Warning that western forces would � provoke a reaction� if they were not gone by The End of the month, which he describes as a � Red Line. Meanwhile, the daily telegraph reports that a suspect on the uks no Fly Watchlist made it to britain from afghanistan, after being allowed to board an Evacuation Flight at Kabul Airport. An individual was flagged and rigorous Checks Process however upon further investigation, they are not a Person Of Interest in the Security Agencies and more on that in a moment. Seven days to go, that is the headline. Well deal with the taliban reaction. TheJoe Biden is going to find himself under an immense amount of pressure in the g7 when they meet. Flan immense amount of pressure in the g7 when they meet immense amount of pressure in the g7 when they meet. Can you hear me 0k . There seem when they meet. Can you hear me 0k . There seem to when they meet. Can you hear me 0k . There seem to be when they meet. Can you hear me 0k . There seem to be a when they meet. Can you hear me 0k . There seem to be a bit when they meet. Can you hear me 0k . There seem to be a bit of when they meet. Can you hear me 0k . There seem to be a bit of a there seem to be a bit of a delay, which is strange. Seven days to go, Joe Biden under pressure, not sticking to the deadline for withdrawing his troops. Yes, this is the story that withdrawing his troops. Yes, this is the story that is withdrawing his troops. Yes, this is the story that is dominating withdrawing his troops. Yes, this is the story that is dominating all withdrawing his troops. Yes, this is the story that is dominating all the| the story that is dominating all the front pages and again and again, today, tomorrow and this particular one is really flagging up the importance of this headline on August The 31st and the Way Everyone is arguing about whether or not it should be extended, the taliban, this headline saying that they should refer to statements that the taliban has made to say that theyre not prepared to compromise on the deadline at the moment and they want the evacuation to end. On august the sist, the evacuation to end. On August The 31st, tomorrow, we are expecting the 7-summit'>G7 Summit to agree to askJoe Biden to extend the deadline to help to extend the Deadline And Work with the taliban and also have them extend the deadline and there is no movement on that and thousands of people still waiting to get out of kabul and it is unlikely that all the people who need and want to get out will be able to get out within the next seven days. That out will be able to get out within the next seven days. Out will be able to get out within the next seven days. That is what is so horrifying the next seven days. That is what is so horrifying. All the next seven days. That is what is so horrifying. All of the next seven days. That is what is so horrifying. All of these the next seven days. That is what is so horrifying. All of these people i so horrifying. All of these people who are expecting to be given Safe Haven, not all of them are going to get it and no one can promise that they will. Get it and no one can promise that the will. � , they will. And this is the thing they will. And this is the thing they were they will. And this is the thing they were talking they will. And this is the thing they were talking about. They will. And this is the thing they were talking about. This | they were talking about. This catastrophe being played out and Other catastrophe being played out and Other parts of afghanistan and that is set Other parts of afghanistan and that is setup Other parts of afghanistan and that is set up against this heavyweight political is set up against this heavyweight political manoeuvring which would take Place Tomorrow at this virtual 7-summit'>G7 Summit take Place Tomorrow at this virtual 7-summit'>G7 Summit and there is no obvious solution 7-summit'>G7 Summit and there is no obvious solution to 7-summit'>G7 Summit and there is no obvious solution to what is going to happen you have solution to what is going to happen you have the taliban laying down a Red Line you have the taliban laying down a Red Line and that is extraordinary how quickly the force that hundreds of british how quickly the force that hundreds of british soldiers and Others died for trying of british soldiers and Others died for trying to suppress are now calling for trying to suppress are now calling the shots and now you have Joe Biden calling the shots and now you have Joe Biden who is so far not made a Commitment Either Way as to whether or not Commitment Either Way as to whether or not he Commitment Either Way as to whether or not he could extend the deadline, he is not or not he could extend the deadline, he is not showing very strong signals he is not showing very strong signals. And then theres Boris Johnson signals. And then theres Boris Johnson who was saying that there has to johnson who was saying that there has to He Johnson who was saying that there has to be some extensions. That, i dont has to be some extensions. That, i dont see has to be some extensions. That, i dont see how its going to work when dont see how its going to work when you dont see how its going to work when you have this horrific, kind of, headline said by the taliban themselves. But of, headline said by the taliban themselves. Of, headline said by the taliban themselves. �. ,. , themselves. But the taliban now, you can understand themselves. But the taliban now, you can understand and themselves. But the taliban now, you can understand and i themselves. But the taliban now, you can understand and i suppose, themselves. But the taliban now, you can understand and i suppose, why i can understand and i suppose, why the raf dont want to state the date for the last flight because the scenes of Kabul Airport are bad enough now, what a pedicure would set off if everyone knew when the last flight was. Set off if everyone knew when the last flight was. Thats the problem. We know we last flight was. Thats the problem. We know we probably last flight was. Thats the problem. We know we probably cant last flight was. Thats the problem. We know we probably cant get we know we probably cant get everyone we know we probably cant get everyone who should be taken out of the Country Everyone who should be taken out of the country and time and the defence secretary. The country and time and the defence secretary, its a question of hours and you secretary, its a question of hours and you feel terrible for those who helped and you feel terrible for those who helped the nato forces not just the british helped the nato forces not just the british but Others during their time, british but Others during their time, out british but Others during their time, put their lives at risk or of the are time, put their lives at risk or of the are at time, put their lives at risk or of the are at at time, put their lives at risk or of the are at at risk again. 0na. On a Collision Course with the taliban. On a Collision Course with the taliban at. On a Collision Course with the taliban. At the. On a Collision Course with the taliban. At the negotiation. On a Collision Course with the | taliban. At the negotiation with. On a Collision Course with the taliban. At the negotiation with the taliban. At the negotiation with the taliban will be an interesting thing to embark upon, some commentators saying that already come in such a short period of time have some legitimacy even though they have not been elected but they are the de facto authority. They have these extraordinary things to be seen of taliban and american and british forces keeping the peace for a greater or lesser extent, at the airport. Greater or lesser extent, at the airort. Airport. The taliban were controlling airport. The taliban were controlling access airport. The taliban were controlling access to airport. The taliban were controlling access to the | airport. The taliban were controlling access to the airport at the beginning and it was very chaotic and it looks as if there have been negotiations between britain, america and the taliban. And there are no cues at the airport and in the pictures, we have seen info near the american flights. But beyond the premier defences of the airport, there are still hundreds of people just crowded together and released squalid conditions in Baking Sheet and seeing if theres any formal things going on there. The taliban does simply cooperating at the moment, but holding very firm to this very redlined that they do not want to extend the evacuation beyond August The 31st and Joe Biden also at the moment saying that he doesnt particularly want to extended beyond August The 31st which takes one wonder how about those who are desperate to leave this country, are they going to get out because you be trying to get out across the land borders with countries like pakistan and iran. Which leads to massive migration crisis. ~ , which leads to massive migration crisis. ~ ,. ~ ,. , which leads to massive migration crisis. ~ , m ,. ,. , crisis. Turkey, pakistan, jason, who mi. Ht crisis. Turkey, pakistan, jason, who miaht be crisis. Turkey, pakistan, jason, who might be able crisis. Turkey, pakistan, jason, who might be able to crisis. Turkey, pakistan, jason, who might be able to bring crisis. Turkey, pakistan, jason, who might be able to bring pressure crisis. Turkey, pakistan, jason, who might be able to bring pressure to l might be able to bring pressure to bear but of course, the taliban as many are saying, they want to look like theyve got the splits under control and theyre not going to want to give way likely and they have the islamic State Group on their patch looking for inroads. And its quite interesting that the fmandal its quite interesting that the financial times talking about how we are not financial times talking about how we are not completely without leverage. The taliban in the financial pressures put on them, the possibility there and it is likely depending on how we detected at Face Value and depending on how we detected at Face Value and different operations 20 Years Value and different operations 20 years ago value and different operations 20 years ago and sceptical myself given that the years ago and sceptical myself given that the Human Rights Abuses and suppression of women in the pretty barbaric suppression of women in the pretty barbaric enforcement of law they did 20 years barbaric enforcement of law they did 20 years ago. If any form of dialogue 20 years ago. If any form of dialogue we can have, we can season. But the dialogue we can have, we can season. But the big dialogue we can have, we can season. But the big question is, why did america but the big question is, why did america and its allies not foresee the collapse of afghanistan is government so quickly and by doing i do more government so quickly and by doing i do more to government so quickly and by doing i do more to prevent the situation that we do more to prevent the situation that we have at the moment. Lets look at the telegraph. Raising Safety Concerns over who is getting on board these Evacuation Flights. This is a story that suggests that there this is a story that suggests that there were five people on a Watch List of there were five people on a Watch List of potential threats to National Security and four of them were National Security and four of them were stopped before they could board a flight were stopped before they could board a flight but one did get through. There a flight but one did get through. There is a flight but one did get through. There is a a flight but one did get through. There is a Home Office Statement saying there is a Home Office Statement saying that after the individual did. Et saying that after the individual did get through, theyd checked that they werent a threat to National Security they werent a threat to National Security and it does raise the Question Security and it does raise the question under the cover of the evacuation mission, will potential terrorists evacuation mission, will potential terrorists tried to get into some of the western countries to cause mayhem the western countries to cause Mayhem And Havoc if they do get through Mayhem And Havoc if they do get through and the chair of the Defence Committee through and the chair of the Defence Committee is saying that border for staff should be, should have been on the Ground Staff should be, should have been on the ground days ago and helping with the ground days ago and helping with the checks the ground days ago and helping with the checks and the processing to make the checks and the processing to make sure the checks and the processing to make sure that no potential terrorists can get through and cause havoc terrorists can get through and cause havoc. Let terrorists can get through and cause havoc. ,. , havoc. Let me ust read the information havoc. Let me just read the information that havoc. Let me just read the information that weve havoc. Let me just read the information that weve got| havoc. Let me just read the | information that weve got in havoc. Let me just read the information that weve got in full from the home of this and Other agencies, the people on the Watch List there were stopped at the airport after arriving from a flight from kabul, an individual is flecked to the Home Office for the Checks Process in Security Services and Others upon further observation, theyre not a threat to the Security Agency or law enforcement. But we have seen the chaotic scenes which are understandable at Kabul Airport, how we keep track truly of was a legitimate person to lead on board one of these flights, who may have papers that look like theyre the real deal and under those circumstances, it is a risk is in it, that someone will get on board thatis it, that someone will get on board that is not willing to. I that is not willing to. I am sliuhtl that is not willing to. I am slightly uncomfortable that is not willing to. I am | slightly uncomfortable with that is not willing to. I am slightly uncomfortable with the story, slightly uncomfortable with the story, understand why people are concerned story, understand why people are concerned with this but the Home Office concerned with this but the Home Office did concerned with this but the Home Office did theirjob. They did track this person discovered that he was a person this person discovered that he was a person of this person discovered that he was a Person Of Interest. But what i worry about Person Of Interest. But what i worry about is Person Of Interest. But what i worry about is its Person Of Interest. But what i worry about is its discrediting almost the whole, kind Of Operation, operation the whole, kind Of Operation, operation of great humanitarian, we owe a operation of great humanitarian, we owe a Lot Operation of great humanitarian, we owe a lot Of Operation of great humanitarian, we owe a lot of these people a debt of honour owe a lot of these people a debt of honour and owe a lot of these people a debt of honour and we should be trying to. Et honour and we should be trying to get them honour and we should be trying to get them to safety and i think it is very important that we put this into perspective. It is chaotic at the airport perspective. It is chaotic at the airport we perspective. It is chaotic at the airport we know, yes there will be one or airport we know, yes there will be one or two airport we know, yes there will be one or two people who are trying to abuse one or two people who are trying to abuse this one or two people who are trying to abuse this and that could pose a danger, abuse this and that could pose a danger, but to put it in perspective, theres a much greater danger perspective, theres a much greater danger of perspective, theres a much greater danger of allowing the country back into the danger of allowing the country back into the hands of the taliban were becomes into the hands of the taliban were becomes a into the hands of the taliban were becomes a Safe Haven for terrorism to be becomes a Safe Haven for terrorism to be inflicted across the world. A majority of care across the world. A maority of Care Homes trying h across the world. A maority of Care Homes trying to h across the world. A maority of Care Homes trying to sack across the world. A majority of Care Homes trying to Sack Staff across the world. A majority of Care Homes trying to Sack Staff at across the world. A majority of Care Homes trying to Sack Staff at a time or they struggle anyway. Please make this a really difficult one. On the reasons why we have such a high take up of vaccines in this country is because its voluntary. It seems counterintuitive but we compared this with Other countries and counterintuitive but we compared this with Other countries this with Other countries and it is worked on this with Other countries and it is worked on the this with Other countries and it is worked on the basis this with Other countries and it is worked on the basis of this with Other countries and it is worked on the basis of Consent L this with Other countries and it is i worked on the basis of consent and the Government Change that for the sake of the Government Change that for the sake of Care Homes. But for very understandable reasons because should understandable reasons because should unvaccinated staff be able to work and should unvaccinated staff be able to Work And Care homes and put elderly people Work And Care homes and put elderly people at Work And Care homes and put elderly people at risk. You can see both sides people at risk. You can see both sides of people at risk. You can see both sides of the argument but consequences are that they are already consequences are that they are already struggling to approve this and they already struggling to approve this and they are now using more staff in the mist and they are now using more staff in the mist backfired. Im not entirely convinced the mist backfired. Im not entirely convinced of the argument about getting convinced of the argument about getting people to be vaccinated to work in getting people to be vaccinated to work in an getting people to be vaccinated to work in an environment where elderly people work in an environment where elderly people and work in an environment where elderly people and vulnerable people are at risk was people and vulnerable people are at risk was about one. | people and vulnerable people are at risk was about one. Risk was about one. I suppose ive asked why risk was about one. I suppose ive asked why is risk was about one. I suppose ive asked why is there risk was about one. I suppose ive asked why is there so risk was about one. I suppose ive asked why is there so much asked why is there so much reluctance among this group of people to take the vaccine . Yeah, that is an interesting people to take the vaccine . Yeah, that is an interesting one people to take the vaccine . Yeah, that is an interesting one i people to take the vaccine . Yeah, that is an interesting one i think i that is an interesting one i think the figures in the story are interesting. Six and ten Care Homes say they will be forced to select members of staff were refusing to vaccinate by the governments deadline. In these regulations are coming into force on the 11th and on november the 11th, coming into force on the 11th and on novemberthe iith, if coming into force on the 11th and on november the 11th, if you have not been double jabbed, you can be sacked from yourjob in the care home. Its hard to know why people are not wanted to take the vaccine. There among several groups of people where vaccine scepticism, but this is, according to the story, 50,000 staff, 7 of the total workforce could people can be sacked because they do not want to be vaccinated and that is extraordinarily high and it is already a sector that is still going to have enough staff to do the job after brexit. They lost a lot of staff. So, the government may need to rethink, abuse the timing of these rules and these regulations. But if you are going to

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