Operation there was a success. Tt is operation there was a success. It is U N Operation there was a success. It is u to the operation there was a success. It is up to the afghans, the government, the taliban, up to the afghans, the government, the taliban, to decide the way forward the taliban, to decide the way forward for the country, including kabuh hello, welcome to bbc news, whether youre watching in the uk or around the world. The taliban are on the verge of taking control of afghanistan, 20 years after being removed from power. Reports suggest the group have ordered their fighters to enter kabul after local police deserted their posts. They have seized every other major city in afghanistan after a Lightning Advance that saw the Government Army flee from their past. The president , Ashraf Ghani, has fled the country. These Pictures Filmed By The Bbc show people trying to get out of city today. The taliban said they are in talks with officials from the government about a peaceful transfer of power. These images show us staff being helicoptered to the airport. The us said they have succeeded in their mission. We the us said they have succeeded in their mission. Their mission. We can do right by their mission. We can do right by the peeple their mission. We can do right by the peeple who their mission. We can do right by the people who stood their mission. We can do right by the people who stood with their mission. We can do right by the people who stood with us, i their mission. We can do right by the people who stood with us, in| the people who stood with us, in afghanistan all these years, including afghans who worked for the embassy and our military. We have a massive effort to bring afghans out of country. It is up to the afghans, the government, up to the taliban, to decide the way forward for the country, including kabul. Iiit to decide the way forward for the country, including kabul. To decide the way forward for the country, including kabul. In the uk, Boris Johnson country, including kabul. In the uk, Boris Johnson has country, including kabul. In the uk, Boris Johnson has been country, including kabul. In the uk, Boris Johnson has been speaking i borisjohnson has been speaking after an Emergency Meeting with ministers. ,. , ,. , ministers. Our priority is to make sure that we ministers. Our priority is to make sure that we deliver ministers. Our priority is to make sure that we deliver on ministers. Our priority is to make sure that we deliver on our sure that we deliver on our obligations to Uk Nationals in afghanistan, to all those who have helped the british efforts in afghanistan over 20 years. And to get them out as fast as we can. So the ambassador is working around the clock, has been there in the airport, to help process the applications. As you know about 2,000 have already, 2,000 afghans have already left and come to this country under our Resettlement Scheme and we will get as many out as we can. But plainly the situation remains very difficult. It is clear that there is going to be, or there is going to be shortly a new government In Kabul, or a new political dispensation, however you want to put it. I think it is important that the west collectively should work together to get over to that new government, be it by the Taliban Or Anybody else, that nobody wants afghanistan once again to be a Breeding Ground for terror and we dont think that it is in the interests of the people of afghanistan that it should lapse back into that state that, pre 2001 state. And so what the uk will be doing is working with our partners in the un security council, to get that, in nato, there a council on friday, to get that message over, we dont want anybody recognising the taliban, we want a united position among all the like minded, as far as we can get one, so we do whatever we can to prevent Afghanistan Lapsing back into being a Breeding Ground for terror. ,. , back into being a Breeding Ground forterror. ,. , , back into being a Breeding Ground forterror. , ,. ,. , for terror. This story is moving at such a fast for terror. This story is moving at such a fast pace. For terror. This story is moving at such a fast pace. Here for terror. This story is moving at such a fast pace. Here is for terror. This story is moving at such a fast pace. Here is a for terror. This story is moving at i such a fast pace. Here is a reminder of how the day developed. The taliban closed in on kabul this morning. Taliban closed in on kabul this morninu. ,. Taliban closed in on kabul this morninu. , morning. Their acting Interior Minister said morning. Their acting Interior Minister said they morning. Their acting Interior Minister said they want i morning. Their acting Interior Minister said they want a i morning. Their acting Interior Minister said they want a peaceful transfer of power. The taliban told the bbc they aim to take power and will respect the rights of women. Roads out of kabul have been packed with people fleeing the militants. The taliban have captured more territory, including the former us Air Base at bagram. Air base at bagram. Militants are said to have Air Base at bagram. Militants are said to have met Air Base at bagram. Militants are said to have met little Air Base at bagram. Militants are said to have met little resistance on the way to the capital and their fighters are now inside the kabul. We hope to cross live to kabul this hour. But in the meantime lets get you up to date on some of our recent interviews and in the last hour i talked to a journalist In Kabul, who told us what it is like to be there at night. T told us what it is like to be there at niuht. , told us what it is like to be there at niuht. ,. , at night. I arrived this morning In Kabul and i at night. I arrived this morning In Kabul and i have at night. I arrived this morning In Kabul and i have been at night. I arrived this morning In Kabul and i have been in at night. I arrived this morning In Kabul and i have been in the i at night. I arrived this morning In Kabul and i have been In The City| kabul and i have been In The City for the last ten years, in and out, so i know it very well. What i personally see, there was a very chaotic situation in this city. The traffic was jammed, the cars was touched with each other, bumper to bumper and there was no place to go and i could see people in their cars. They had their belongings inside and on the Roof Racks and they were trying to flee from kabul. The situation was really unexplainable, like the cars were on the both sides of the roads and there was a huge trafficjam and no one could get out or in from the chaos. I could see the faces in the peoplest, they were disappointed and uncertain where to go and what is going to happen to us next. 0bviously going to happen to us next. Obviously it is night now, where you are, i think i can hear helicopters behind you, have you been Hearing Helicopters in the last few hours . Yes, these helicopterflights were like taking place since morning, since im here. I could see a lot of choppers moving around. As well as that there are gunshots we can hear that. These are not ordinary rifle gunshots. I could hear like heavy guns. Theyre firing. I dont know if theirfighting orfiring. There are no reports from officials what is happening In The City. From here i have seen a few minutes ago there was armed persons on the government vehicles and they clearly looked like militants. They were not having taliban flag or any other flags so we could say they were taliban or not. But i could see they were wearing normal dresses, like normal afghans, but they had official Army And Government vehicles. At, afghans, but they had official Army And Government vehicles. Afghans, but they had official Army And Government vehicles. A view from Kabul And Government vehicles. A view from kabul more and government vehicles. A view from kabul more on and government vehicles. A view from kabul. More on the and government vehicles. A view from kabul. More on the View And Government vehicles. A view from kabul. More on the view from and government vehicles. A view from kabul. More on the view from the I And Government vehicles. A view from kabul. More on the view from the us i kabul. More on the view from the us and speak to the Deputy Director of the asia centre. Eventses have moved so swiftly, but the taliban is clearly assuming power, what is your take on the matter of whether they intend to rule afghanistan alone or intend to rule afghanistan alone or in coalition . To intend to rule afghanistan alone or in coalition . In coalition . To this point the taliban has in coalition . To this point the taliban has been in coalition . To this point the taliban has been able in coalition . To this point the taliban has been able to i in coalition . To this point the taliban has been able to get| taliban has been able to get everything it has wanted. They have got an agreement with the us for troops to leave and got to a point where it could take over a lot of territory and now it is in a position where it has essentially taken over pow inner all but em power in all but name. Im not sure that any political Stake Holder in afghanistan, whetherfrom that any political Stake Holder in afghanistan, whether from the, that any political Stake Holder in afghanistan, whetherfrom the, what had been the government In Kabul, other political Stake Holders, will be in a position to lobby for a role in the next government. I think it is critical this not be a Government Thatis is critical this not be a government that is completely controlled by the taliban, it needs to be a power sharing arrangement, that was the intention. But the taliban has the upper hand. The government has collapsed. The military lost the will to fight. And i think if there is going to be little standing in the way of taliban being able to dictate any settlement. We are looking at a situation where the taliban will be controlling the Lions Share of power and maybe all power as well. Lions share of power and maybe all power as well Lions Share of power and maybe all power as well. Terms may be decided or at least outlined power as well. Terms may be decided or at least outlined in power as well. Terms may be decided or at least outlined in these power as well. Terms may be decided or at least outlined in these talks i or at least outlined in these talks in doha, tell us something about dr abdullah abdullah, who is now leading an afghan delegation. He is one of senior leading an afghan delegation. He is one of senior most leading an afghan delegation. He 3 one of senior most political figures in afghanistan. He has never been president or led the country, but he has been the head of afghan peace commission. He has laid a key role in engagements with the taliban. He is someone that is run for president several times and always lost and claimed there was fraudulent elections. He is someone that is known and prominent and i think the important thing is that the talibans never appeared to loathe him in the way it has loathed Ashraf Ghani. The taliban said for some time there could be nothing, nothing happen could with negotiations until Ashraf Ghani stepped down. But there was never that demand with abdullah. Im not suggesting he would be part of the government, but i think he will play a key role in the negotiations that happen over the next few days. Whether that entails there being a role for him, that is not clear, but he commands respect in afghanistan. He has rivals, but he is someone that all the quaysides would view as someone who could play a key role in whatever government emerges. D0 a key role in whatever government emerues. , ~ a key role in whatever government emerues. ~. ,. ,. , emerges. Do you think negotiations are made easier emerges. Do you think negotiations are made easier by emerges. Do you think negotiations are made easier by the emerges. Do you think negotiations are made easier by the fact emerges. Do you think negotiations are made easier by the fact that i are made easier by the fact that cities have begun falling without a fight, there hasnt been battle In Kabul, the taliban has not been attacking the us as it departs, for example . T attacking the us as it departs, for Exam Le . ~ attacking the us as it departs, for Exam Le . ,. , example . I think that the negotiating example . I think that the Negotiating Environment | example . I think that the i Negotiating Environment would example . I think that the Negotiating Environment would be better if the taliban were to agree to some type of formal ceasefire. The taliban has not been using force and has not been fighting In Kabul, but this is a group that has never really committed to reducing violence for any lengthy period of time other than a few three day truces. We have to see, that will be a good intention of the talibans commitment, if it does agree to a ceasefire. The taliban fire, it wouldnt like to reduce violence, unless it has to. It has everything it wanted. They have got us troops to leave, Ashraf Ashraf Ghani has left the country. So the there is no reason for the taliban not to agree to a ceasefire. That would provide a more conducive Negotiating Environment and that would help the taliban maintain legitimacy that i wants to retain. Lts taliban maintain legitimacy that i wants to retain. Wants to retain. Us leaders are clear that wants to retain. Us leaders are clear that staying wants to retain. Us leaders are clear that staying in wants to retain. Us leaders are | clear that staying in afghanistan wants to retain. Us leaders are i clear that staying in afghanistan is no longer in the us national interest. Is that right . Yeah that is exactly right. Interest. Is that right . Yeah that is exactly right. So interest. Is that right . Yeah that is exactly right. So us interest. Is that right . Yeah that is exactly right. So us forces i interest. Is that right . Yeah that. Is exactly right. So us forces have been heading for the exit, even as the taliban wages this offensive. Booid Joe Biden made the decision because of what he perceived to be a weak threat of terrorism in afghanistan. He perceived the threat posed by alqaeda and others was not strong enough for if us to stay. I think there will be efforts to figure out a way to maintain a capacity to monitor Terrorist Groups and if need be to engage in Counter Terrorism activities in afghanistan against isis and alqaeda. The biden administration has made clear it will leave things in afghanistan to afghans. It has been very clear on that since the moment that president biden announced the withdrawal. D0 biden announced the withdrawal. Do you think that approach is wise . I you think that approach is wise . T think that there is no good decision. If the us Have V had decided to stay, there would be more instability, the taliban would have seen that as a violation of the agreement with the us and waged a new offensive. With the us leaving, we have seen what happens. So there are no good options for the us. You dont, the biden administration, which inherited this flawed agreement that the Trump Administration signed that meant us forces would have to leave soon after the biden administration took office. So there was no good decision for the administration and the us has to, other than providing humanitarian assistance for the internally displaced persons, it has to figure out a way to stay in diplomatic efforts to make sure this unclear transition of power occurs in a way that is peaceful and in a way that the taliban will agree to Stop Fighting. Way that the taliban will agree to Stop Fighting way that the taliban will agree to stoaufihtin. � ,. , Stop Fighting. Thank you. Lets talk about what the Stop Fighting. Thank you. Lets talk about what the transition Stop Fighting. Thank you. Lets talk about what the transition of Stop Fighting. Thank you. Lets talk about what the transition of power| about what the transition of Power Looks like on the Ground And Talk to matt aitkens, a free Lapse Reporter In Kabul. Is there evidence of the taliban In Kabul now . In kabul. Is there evidence of the taliban In Kabul now . Yes. Today i saw the taliban taliban In Kabul now . Yes. Today i saw the taliban in taliban In Kabul now . Yes. Today i saw the taliban In Kabul. Taliban In Kabul now . Yes. Today i saw the taliban In Kabul. We i taliban In Kabul now . Yes. Today i saw the taliban In Kabul. We were | saw the taliban In Kabul. We were out in the western outskirts of city and there was a stream of taliban fighters coming out of the city on captured police rangers, and theyre being cheered by by standers and little children running after them. It was an extraordinary scene. What about the institutions, the authorities, the Security Forces In Kabul, what happened to them . They have completely meanted away melted away, collapsed. It started today. There was a rumour the taliban were inside the city. It wasnt true, they were on the outskirts. But soon you saw police abandoning their posts and changing into plain cloths and soon the city was full of soldiers without their uniforms trying to get out, to not be the last ones killed in a war that was lost. And the taliban was sending people to Government Facilities to facilitate a handover, so they werent In The City in the force today, but the transition is very much under way. T force today, but the transition is very much under way. Force today, but the transition is very much under way. I would like ou to very much under way. I would like you to stay very much under way. I would like you to stay us very much under way. I would like you to stay us with. Very much under way. I would like you to stay us with. We very much under way. I would like you to stay us with. We are i very much under way. I would like you to stay us with. We are going | very much under way. I would like l you to stay us with. We are going to speak to the bbc� s North America Editor about what is happening from the Point Of View of washington and we are bringing together what is happening in washington And Kabul. Jon, we heard a steely statement from antony blinken, saying it is up to the people of afghanistan to fight for themselves. It is up to them now. T fight for themselves. It is up to them now fight for themselves. It is up to them now. ~. , ,. , them now. I think he was trying to ut a them now. I think he was trying to put a brave them now. I think he was trying to put a brave face them now. I think he was trying to put a brave face on them now. I think he was trying to put a brave face on a them now. I think he was trying to put a brave face on a situation i them now. I think he was trying to | put a brave face on a situation that has turned put a brave face on a situation that has turned chaotic. You can debate the policy has turned chaotic. You can debate the policy about pulling American Forces the policy about pulling American Forces out the policy about pulling American Forces out of afghanistan and there are people people who think you cant are people people who think you cantiust are people people who think you cantjust sign a blank are people people who think you cant just sign a blank cheque for ever cant just sign a blank cheque for ever that cant just sign a blank cheque for ever that American Forces will keep, pfop ever that American Forces will keep, prop up ever that American Forces will keep, prop Up A ever that American Forces will keep, prop Up A government in afghanistan that doesnt Command Support of the people that doesnt Command Support of the people and that doesnt Command Support of the people and if the taliban come necking, people and if the taliban come necking, maybe that is the come knocking, necking, maybe that is the come knocking, maybe that is the result. But joe knocking, maybe that is the result. ButJoe Biden seems to have ignored the warnings he was given by allies and military top brass a over estimated the power of Afghan Forces and the estimated the power of Afghan Forces and the speed with which the taliban could advance and you have had diplomats could advance and you have had diplomats being ferried to the airport diplomats being ferried to the airport. Diplomats being told the shred airport. Diplomats being told the shred documents. Not quite the fall of saigon, shred documents. Not quite the fall of saigon, but not far short. 25 of saigon, but not far short. 24 hours of saigon, but not far short. Hours after of saigon, but not far short. 24 hours after Ashraf Ghani was addressing the nation, he has slipped out of the country. Yes it is all of a piece. Slipped out of the country. Yes it is all of a piece. Midweek slipped out of the country. Yes it i is all of a piece. Midweek american officials is all of a piece. Midweek american officials were saying it would be months officials were saying it would be months probably before the taliban would months probably before the taliban would surround kabul. Three days later, would surround kabul. Three days later, they would surround kabul. Three days later, they have taken kabul and are in the later, they have taken kabul and are in the president ial Palace And Ashraf in the president ial palace and Ashraf Ghani has gone. It showed afghanistan was entirely being propped up by the us and for the billions propped up by the us and for the billions spent on training and equipping the Afghan Army to be Fighting Equipping the Afghan Army to be Fighting Force to see off the taliban, Fighting Force to see off the taliban, its looks like the taliban made taliban, its looks like the taliban made one taliban, its looks like the taliban made one puff and the Afghanistan Armed made one puff and the Afghanistan Armed disappeared. That is a huge embarrassment to them and the american. Embarrassment to them and the american, who thought they would be able american, who thought they would be abte to american, who thought they would be able to look after them. You hear tony able to look after them. You hear tony blinken saying it is up to to afghan tony blinken saying it is up to to afghan people to look after themselves, well, yes, but only because themselves, well, yes, but only because everything else has failed. Is there because everything else has failed. Is there a because everything else has failed. Is there a sense of responsibility to get more afghans out, those who helped the us and its allies . Yes. Helped the us and its allies . Yes, there will be helped the us and its allies . Yes, there will be pressure helped the us and its allies . Yes, there will be pressure in helped the us and its allies . Yes, there will be pressure in that direction there will be pressure in that direction. That is why it could be toxic direction. That is why it could be toxic for direction. That is why it could be toxic forJoe Biden. The policy enjoyed toxic forJoe Biden. The policy enjoyed support that american should pull enjoyed support that american should putt forces enjoyed support that american should pull forces out. But the manner in which pull forces out. But the manner in which it pull forces out. But the manner in which it is pull forces out. But the manner in which it is done. Youve got nationat which it is done. Youve got national security republicans saying it is a national security republicans saying it is a catastrophe. Trump supporters saying what a mess Joe Biden supporters saying what a mess Joe Biden has supporters saying what a mess Joe Biden has made of it, democrats saying. Biden has made of it, democrats saying, hang on, Ithought Biden has made of it, democrats saying, hang on, i thought we were building saying, hang on, i thought we were Building Civic Society and the women we have Building Civic Society and the women we have told can do what they like are now we have told can do what they like are now throwing away their books. Those are now throwing away their books. Those are are now throwing away their books. Those are bad optics and there will be pressure for america to take in the people be pressure for america to take in the people who have helped the american military in afghanistan, these american military in afghanistan, these past 20 years and all of this as america these past 20 years and all of this as america prepares to remember the 20th anniversary of 9 11. Then the Tallban 20th Anniversary of 9 11. Then the taliban were In Control and now nearly taliban were In Control and now nearly 20 taliban were In Control and now nearly 20 years later, theyre back In Control nearly 20 years later, theyre back In Control. Jon nearly 20 years later, theyre back In Control. ,. , nearly 20 years later, theyre back In Control nearly 20 years later, theyre back In Control. ,. ,. ,. ,. , In Control. Jon sopel thank you. Now Back To Kabul In Control. Jon sopel thank you. Now Back To Kabul and In Control. Jon sopel thank you. Now back to Kabul And Matt In Control. Jon sopel thank you. Now back to Kabul And Matt aitkens. I In Control. Jon sopel thank you. Now. Back to Kabul And Matt aitkens. When you talk to friends and colleagues, is there a sense of people still needing to get out, because theyre scared of what The Future might hold . ,. , ,. , scared of what The Future might hold . ,. ,. ,. ~ hold . Yes there has been an panicked rush for the hold . Yes there has been an panicked rush for the airport, hold . Yes there has been an panicked rush for the airport, for rush for the airport, for evabgations. Evacuations. So many people were caught and there was sense of people still needing to get out, because theyre scared of what The Future might hold . Yes there has been an panicked rush for the airport, for evabgations. Evacuations. So many people were caught and there was many Heart Rending Phone Calls that all of us received. We have to wait and see what happens. So far it has been a peaceful process largely. What what happens. So far it has been a peaceful process largely. Peaceful process largely. What are the calculations peaceful process largely. What are the calculations now, peaceful process largely. What are the calculations now, if peaceful process largely. What are the calculations now, if youre i peaceful process largely. 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A lot will be about discipline and whether it i holds up. A lot will be about discipline and whether it is L Discipline and whether it is discipline and whether it is discipline and whether it is discipline and civility, rather than Chaos And Violence . Discipline and civility, rather than Chaos And Violence . Yeah, i think the city needs Chaos And Violence . Yeah, i think the city needs order Chaos And Violence . Yeah, i think the city needs order right Chaos And Violence . Yeah, i think the city needs order right now i Chaos And Violence . Yeah, i think| the city needs order right now and the city needs order right now and the sooner that happens, the better it is going to be harder to govern a Big City Like Kabul than take it. I think we need to wait and see what happens before we rush to judgments about what is going to happen. Something else i want to ask you about since youre there, we have been reporting that thousands of people have been displaced from other parts of afghanistan and many of them i guess went to ca i be, think kabul, thinking that is where they could get help. Do you see people on the Streets Homeless . You know last week, youve seen the huge influx of people, The Park near where i live was full of refugees, very Heart Rending scenes. But something strange, i noticed this evening on my way back was all the refugees were gone from The Park. I dont know what happened. Maybe they got frightened. But it is possible they went home and saw there wasnt going to be bloodshed and the roads were open and they were told to go home. Because theyre gone. Just a final thought home. Because theyre gone. Just a final thought from home. Because theyre gone. Just a final thought from you home. Because theyre gone. Just a final thought from you about i home. Because theyre gone. Just a final thought from you about what a day it has been from the possibility of fighting, i suppose there was the possibility of bloodshed and now youve got a change of government In The City in a single day. Tt is the city in a single day. It is astonishing. The city in a single day. It is astonishing. As the city in a single day. It is astonishing. As hard the city in a single day. It is astonishing. As hard it i the city in a single day. Tt 3 astonishing. As hard it has been for family and friends, it has been a whole lifetime and what they have been going through has been difficult and continues to be difficult and continues to be difficult and continues to be difficult and that is why im glad to be here with them. We difficult and that is why im glad to be here with them. Difficult and that is why im glad to be here with them. We are glad ou were to be here with them. We are glad you were able to be here with them. We are glad you were able to to be here with them. We are glad you were able to speak to be here with them. We are glad you were able to speak to to be here with them. We are glad you were able to speak to us. I to be here with them. We are glad| you were able to speak to us. Matt aitkens thank you very much and stay safe. Lets think more about who the taliban are. They call themselves the Islamic Emirate Of Afghanistan and they were formed around a group of mujahideen veterans. While mainly recruited from the pushtun group, it was made up of volunteers of numerous groups. After the Coalition Offensive led to the collapse of the regime, many leaders took refuge in pakistan. The un believes there were about 58 and 100,000 Taliban Fighterses led by the ultimate authority on religious affairs. 0ne Authority on religious affairs. One of his deputies is mullah mohammad yaqoob. The un estimates the taliban has income ranging from 300 Million Dollars a year. Most of their funds are criminal activity such as drug production. We were hearing about the situation In Kabul. My colleague, who is from afghanistan, has been talking to residents In Kabul through the day and she has been speaking to us about what people are telling her. Flillie been speaking to us about what people are telling her. Been speaking to us about what people are telling her. One of my friends has people are telling her. One of my friends has been people are telling her. One of my friends has been trying people are telling her. One of my friends has been trying to people are telling her. One of my friends has been trying to leave l friends has been trying to leave afghanistan because it is not safe for him. He said he went to the Indian Embassy to get a visa, the queues are so big he cannot even talk to an official. And he said that they have been told that the taliban have told him youre free to go. He said, where to go. I dont trust what is happening and i have no way of escaping. It is a feeling of desperation. It is just everyone is waiting for the next minute what is waiting for the next minute what is going to be done. All they want, i have family members injalalabad, which fell peacefully. They said you can come back. But they said we are scared, i dont know if i can open my shop. It is like that In Kabul. Kabul is in total mess. Everyone is talking about. One woman said if you look at Afghanistan Today And Kabul and hear our residents, just remember that we trusted the americans. Do not trust americans when they say theyre going to come and liberate you, they dont, they leave you in the middle of the night and that is how they feel. I remember 20 years ago when we were broadcasting remember 20 years ago when we were broadcast ing from the bbc, there was hardly any english speakers, now we have an army of english speakers. There was a chance for education and they grabbed it and made such progress, they went abroad, they got education, they went back home to build their country and now all of those people are jobless. Build their country and now all of those people arejobless. All of these people are that i know are sitting at home waiting for the next minute what to do, not trusting the politicians, not trusting the americans, not trusting the other international community, it is, and seeing kids on the streets crying, because they dont have milk, they dont have proper food. Because they dont have milk, they dont have properfood. It because they dont have milk, they dont have proper food. It is heartbreaking situation and i dont know how to myself personally, because im afghan and i have worked for women and girls so hard, it is just so heartbreaking. This for women and girls so hard, it is just so heartbreaking. For women and girls so hard, it is just so heartbreaking. As she was re ortin , just so heartbreaking. As she was reporting, civilians just so heartbreaking. As she was reporting, civilians fear just so heartbreaking. As she was reporting, civilians fear lives i just so heartbreaking. As she was reporting, civilians fear lives may| reporting, civilians fear lives may change. We spoke to a group who has been working for Gender Inclusion in a country that may now be taliban run. T a country that may now be talibanrun. A country that may now be talibanrun. ~ ,. Talibanrun. I think the public reacts, talibanrun. I think the public reacts. The talibanrun. I think the public reacts, the negativity talibanrun. I think the public reacts, the negativity that i talibanrun. I think the public reacts, the negativity that is l reacts, the negativity that is spreading across Social Media is causing more of a concern to others around the world. More so than how the people are handling it on the ground, as you heard from your former speaker, she mentioned that some, theyre asked to return to their shops and to stay and things will be back to normal, however the fear, which is a normal reaction to what is happening, is what is causing the stir more than anything else. Could the taliban have move so fast if they werent supported by so many people . If they werent supported by so many Eo Le . If they werent supported by so many eole . , if they werent supported by so many neale . ,. , if they werent supported by so many eole . ,. ,. People . That is a good topic. There is acceptance people . That is a good topic. There is acceptance amongst people . That is a good topic. There is acceptance amongst the people . That is a good topic. There is acceptance amongst the people | people . That is a good topic. There i is acceptance amongst the people for the taliban and more so in the rural areas because of the tribal Way Theyve approached the elders. Afghanistan is a tribal society with the elders making the decisions, and they are the architects of The Future, which is why when you hear in some Provinces Taliban are allowing schools, that is because of the pressure elders have placed on the pressure elders have placed on the taliban. The influence of the elders is important on how it will structure The Future. Bud elders is important on how it will structure The Future. Structure The Future. And we are heafina structure The Future. And we are hearing now structure The Future. And we are hearing now that structure The Future. And we are hearing now that a structure The Future. And we are hearing now that a delegation i structure The Future. And we are J Hearing now that a delegation of afghan elders will be