Shooting since 2010. Now on Bbc News Dateline london with shaun ley. Hello and welcome, this is dateline london, the only programme to bring together bbc specialists with foreign correspondence who write from here. It is an Outsiders Perspective around the uk and the world. As the return of the taliban and other worlds leaders willing to stop it getting worse and Andrew Cuomo resigns, with me to discuss it are writers for Bloomberg And Bbc corresponded clive. The taliban are in controljust 45 miles south of kabul, the regional warlords and Militia Groups to whom the president has turned in Afghanistans Hour of need, evidence that his army trained by the now departed americans is inadequate in the fight. One by one provincial capitals have fallen, when you look at the picture in afghanistan the director of national intelligence who worked Withjoe Biden when he was Vice President said was inevitable once the in american troops left it was inevitable, given these Evacuation Flights for nationals and embassy staff, is that kind of an implied admission that the attempt to keep the taliban out has been lost . Yes, and the evidence on the ground is clear that the 20 Year Mission yes its initial point of it was to prevent another 9 11, another large scale international major Terror Attack and it has worked from that point of view. Afghanistan for the last 20 years has not been a haven for terror groups. It does feel as if that is the smell of saigon and the final days of the us in vietnam and the british are trying to get expatriates out and americans similarly, but i was in afghanistan about three weeks after the taliban took control in 1996 and the response from local people to the taliban are taking over was a very different to what you are seeing now, there was a sense the taliban were going to finally bring Peace And Stability and possibly prosperity to a country that had just come out of more than a decade of brutal Civil War with what mods beating the hell out of the major cities, much of kabul was reduced to rubble and the taliban was seen as a Stabilising Force to bring security. Formal 20 years it is very different and we are seeing the roads leading into kabul full of refugees trying to get out of various areas for the fighting is taking place, un announcing local countries should keep their borders open so refugees can get out and there is a sense it is not a matter of if but when the taliban take over what kind of a regime about the put forward. We are only weeks from the 20th anniversary of 9 11, how will this look in the us, the passage of two decades makes it more significant the taliban is back in control, the people who were responsible and seen in the us as having given suburban lad and the environment to plot an organise those terrible attacks will stop i thinkable be regarded there with role as a huge mistake. Biden appears to be proceeding and not wavering because that is an assumption it will not cost the us anything and the real damage will not be clear until the reports of refugees flooding across borders, young girls being sold to taliban fighters and the real scale of the humanitarian disaster hits our screen regularly. Already the republicans are piling in and cut sizing the decision, republican leader Mitch Mcconnell saying the biden administration had been reduced to pleading with the taliban to protect the us embassy and said the us risked a humiliating sequel to the fall of saigon. I think this is a rethink of how reliable the us is as a partner going forward the afghans feel betrayed and when you see potentially facing millions of refugees flooding across turkey towards europe, there is a potential as many us Military Leaders have won that afghanistan could become a haven for terrorists. After relative Stability Afghanistan was not perfect but a pretty good investment for relatively little cost, the us had not been engaged in Combat Operations since 2015 and it had not been front Page News years so theres been a push, biden has wanted to fulfil his Campaign Promise to pull out, its not like this has been a big rallying cry, are necessarily going to cost the democrats the mid term elections. The Peace Process that was conducted over a protected and led Donald Trump to reach this agreement with the taliban, it one point even looked like they would go to camp david, never came to that but some sort of deal was done, was that kind of naive on the part of the americans and others in the west on the kind of self serving process, an excuse for what they wanted to do anyway. I think the latter, i dont think they could possibly be that naive. One of the important things to notice the taliban negotiators are very different and seeing very different things from taliban leaders on the ground. There have been all sorts of fantasies put forward i about the american presence in afghanistan from the beginning, Hillary Clinton said america had gone and the true liberate afghan women and it was going to change and be wonderful| and there is now she is back in 2008 saying similar things, i the taliban made a promise not to to be different this time. Obviously they know what is going on, you only have to watch the Bbc News to know what is going on. As the some sense that perhaps the experience of fighting the group that called itself islamic state in Iraq And Syria changed some of the perceptions about the taliban that in a sense they could be a containable if unpleasant regime whereas the neolithic group that believed and worldwide jihad is something much more dangerous and as skin of lesser of evils. There does appear to be a Wishful Thinking that the taliban have changed, that they are not wanting to be this international pariah on a global stage and that they may not have acceptance internationally that they will not impose a strict chalet are law. We have a Report Today that the us had asked the taliban to spare the us embassy they had any hope of getting foreign aid as part of the future afghan government which shows how far the us has come in terms of the way it regards the taliban. The taliban are clearly trying to push this perception that they are a more palatable partner than they were but i think clearly from what we have seen they have not respected the agreements they have signed up to before and i think it is naive to assume that they will not be imposing their oppressive ideology on huge parts of the country like before. Do you have any cause to hope that when we hear the spokesman that is always men under that ideological outlook say we want girls to be educated and think education as a valuable thing that only 20 years of being out of power with some of the leading figures exposed to external influences they have never been exposed to before that it is just conceivable that some of those attitudes might have evolved. I wish i could hope that but i have met and got to know a Numberof Afghan Women and young girls and europe| as refugees and the stories and feelings i have heard. From them suggest that is very unlikely and they are all still terrified. The other practical question as the one you mentioned, clive, is it likely the taliban will not be the welcoming committee for other organisations that need a base to operate their kind of globaljihad philosophy. The british spent £4 billion, americans goodness knows how much to arm this army with weapons and equipment as they are ready for a taliban administration are to take over. It is a fundamental question, what have the taliban learned after 20 years in exile and i think Maria And Stephanie are correct and that all the protestations are front when it comes to domestic treatment of women. They say one thing on the ground and we know from our reporting that is not the case that they have changed Domestic Policy and i suspect whilst the Rest Of The World Well Roberts Hands and say it has a bad thing they might be willing to do Anything Billing about it. 0n Foreign Policy has the taliban changed and i think there are fundamental differences between now and 20 years ago, the different countries involved now includes china which once afghanistan mic minerals, they have signed deals with the authorities in afghanistan to extract minerals, they do not want islamic turn on bubbling up, the russians are involved as, iran and pakistan, all those countries do not want international terror spreading out from that country. Frankly that as the best Case Hope for the united states and the west that it is those countries that keep the lid on this ten box. Scientists have been rocked and to prescribe particular events to climate Change And Correlation does not necessarily mean causation, No One can say for certain the wildfires affecting the western side of North America and Southern Europe are the consequence of a Warming Planet but the latest report from the scientists advising governments is a blunt, achieving Net Zero Carbon Emissions by 2050 will come too late, a 45 cut is needed by 2030, to get to the arrival in 2010, have not the Temperature Rises cannot be contained making Life On Earth Human Life in particular hard to sustain. Lets start on this question of what we can take from this based on some of your experience, maria because you are just back from greece, we are seen Greece And Turkey and other parts of Southern Europe affected not just by the heatwave but the wildfires and links to it. What did you see and what are people telling you. Lets start on this question of what we can take from this based on some of your experience, maria because you are just back from greece, we are seen Greece And Turkey and other parts of Southern Europe affected not just by the heatwave but the wildfires and links to it. What did you see and what are people telling you. We have had heatwaves in. Greecebefore but nothing like what greece is experiencing this summer, used to be the Tip Temperature up to 40 or 45 for a couple of days, this was days on end. And we have seen fires but nothing like what were seeing now endless more l than 100,000 hectares burned. I was not in the places where the fires are although i know| one of the area well| but from when i was on an island and in athens the air was full of smoke, | there was ash, The Sound turned red and there was smog, it was horrific, something i have never seen before. The pictures i was watching on television and studies i i was hearing from friends on those places were truly apocalyptic. You columns of smoke, mountains of flame, a third of the largest island in greece has burned, those Without Pristine Forests with villages where people lived in a sustainable way Collecting Resin from the pine trees, l growing olives and keeping l bees, they lived in and really with nature and knew the land very well. I the response to the fires has been disastrous, the Firefighting Equipment was underprepared and i inadequate and firefighters inadequately trained. I could one about this but people on the ground felt very much abandoned by the government, had to fight the files themselves. The policy was to get villages to evacuate instead of following people who knew the Ground And Land and what in the forests who know every part to fight the files themselves. In The End they did i stay but it is a human and ecological disaster, The End of a community of people who are living in a sustainable way. I there is nothing for them at their now, the government is talking about investing in tourism and the Area L but apart from asking why would tourists want to go| to a place that is stumpsl that is not the kind of life with natural environment. That was not there before. One thing that is very odd and paradoxical. And frightening about this is the Greek Governmentl has been using the fact of Climate Change as an alibi for its failures, another once it is said to be faced a terrible natural disaster, there is nothing we could have done but everyone knows that as i whole lot they could have| done had the invested and firefighting planes instead of warplanes and hired more seasonal firefighters as they used to do instead of more police and so on. I the other thing is that as a kind of government Green Washing going on pictures we are investing in these Wind Turbines which is true, 12 of decal Chastity L is produced by turbines but the wind Turbines L and in an environmentally. Catastrophic way and theres profits to be made so insteadj of you thinking about what do we need to do to conserve the forest we have that be know at the most effective carbon i on the planet, what to be need to do to save what is the that is this kind. Of theoretical Policy Making that is not what we need. I what about the united states, are you feeding much any public debate from those prominent politicians, who are sceptical about man made Climate Change or have the fires rather quite and them . There has been an airy silence from republicans who have traditionally rejected climate Change Science and the wake of the ipcc report, they have not been talking about the files in order gone and california and they are at the point that they can no longer deny the science, it is no longer a tenable position but i think at this point they are now trying to pivot towards saying we want to pursue Climate Change policies any more fiscally disposable way than the democrats have. There is an Infrastructure Bill through the senate this week that includes Summer Climate Provisions but to the republicans have largely gutted the more ambitious proposals that biden had put forward forcing biden to pack it into another bill that does not need the public and the support to pass. Republican support to pass. They may be changing because the polling is such that it is clear the majority of americans want congress to pass legislation supporting the clean energy and combating Climate Change. You have seen this conservative climate caucus and the republicans banning together to push forward Market Based Solutions as an alternative to the what they called the socialist plan of the democrats green new deal. The republicans have been light on the serious Policy Ideas and have left that very much to the democrats to pursue and the irony is that actually the private sector is way ahead of Republic Policy and what the market really needs is the kind of incentives and infrastructure needed for the Auto Industry to invest in electric cars and banks to invest in sustainable energy and they are just not coming forward with the concrete proposals. Private companies want. The question is of political leadership which maria also talked about which is the idea we are going to do a lot of Green Stuff but when you look out the detail it is kind of outweighed by the other stuff going on. And turkey you have the president concentrated on the economy, huge development and concerns about the impact on the climate and no Wattle Bombing planes that what 20 crisis comes and he is reduced to tossing Tea And Sympathy in the absence of anything more substantial. For borisjohnson in the uk he and previous prime ministers and good on the rhetoric, does the substance back up their very ambitious claims and he will be in the chair of this all important climate summit in october. Everybody will be looking to him and glasgow for the Cup Meeting and what activists would say is the uk is very good with theoretical, great with the rhetoric and the hope is the rhetoric will affect the minds of leaders around the world and encourage them to come forward with policies to cut Greenhouse Emissions but there is not enough walking the walk and talking the talk to back stuff up and the governments own Climate Advisers say they are not enough policies and place to reach the kind of commitments that the uk says it wants so the Climate Change committee, independent group of advisers advising the government on how to deal with Climate Change made it clear to months ago that borisjohnson� s commitment and this Government Commitment to reducing Greenhouse Gas emissions by 70 by 2035 is not going to happen and that is because they have not got to the policies and place. Coming forward with bold targets is notjust for the benefit of the uk and the people in this country, the ideas enters a force to help other countries realise this is what we should be doing but if the uk is not achieving its own targets then what will the effect beyond other countries and activist will point to the fact that was discussion about whether or not a new coalminer should be opened in the north of england, new Oil And Gas licences given out in the north sea. Some airports are extending their runways, leads as one of those, as well as a multi million Pound Programme to build more roads so we talk the talk but where is the action and i think that is the fear going into Cop And Glasgow that the uk will not be on the front foot as much as it should. And they worried about that and washington . Joe biden has watched borisjohnson in action shedding the G7 Promoter they have concerns about his capacity to pull this off. They have not voice them publicly but it is Boris Johnson failed to get an agreement about phasing out coal. Less prepared than france when they did cop and 2015, diplomatic muscle behind Cop 26 that is needed to get substantial agreement. Borisjohnson in terms of product push. They are doing a good job at the and Notjohn Kerry and the reality is the success of Cop 26 welcome dont is us leadership, the Real Question is can china bring faster reductions and who will persuade them to do that and given the tensions between the uk and china over Hong Kong i think that will be really hard. John kerry the climate envoy is and if you weeks and it be interesting to see if you can them to rethink the climate plan, they are reconsidered it now. They are as concern that there is not enough Focus And Planning at the last minute. A brief last one. We have still going through the covid pandemic, we have seen what kind of resources can be put| into that, messaging and education, the Climate Crisis as a much Biggerl Threat facing humanity, we cannot one with business as usual, there has to be a real Step Up and resources and funding and education. I in terms of practical leadership do you see the capacity there . Do you think that is when you have seen what is happening in greece does it give you a sense of encouragement about the Particle Process and a capacity to seize a moment to persuade the public that it has to shift and accept some compromises and the quality of life is known to achieve the longer term policy. No, i dont see that,. I still see climate issues beings subjected to party politics but it is notjust. About persuading the public, this is a political issue. Maria. We have to leave it, thank you for your time, stephanie and clive. Hello. It is turning into a very mixed but not particularly dramatic weekend of weather. Saturday brought a bit of sunshine, a bit of rain for some. Its a similar mix as we head into sunday. A couple of frontal systems, this curl of a Weather Front here bringing rain for parts of Northern Ireland, england and wales at times. This front pushing into Northern Scotland promises some pretty hefty showers. And in between, some zones of drier, brighter weather. Some patchy rain likely to push across East Anglia and the South East through sunday morning, but then brighter skies follow, at least for a time. More cloud for wales and the south west, spots of rain here. Some rain for a time in northern england, but Northern Ireland should brighten up with some sunshine. Quite a lot of dry weather for southern and central parts of scotland, but Northern Scotland will see some showers. And it will feel decidedly cool here, highest temperatures across parts of Eastern England up to 23 degrees. So, we will see areas of cloud and some showery rain continuing through sunday evening, but most places turn dry into the early hours of monday. Notice quite a lot of Cloud Out West by this stage, and overnight temperatures generally between ten and 1a degrees. So, as we start monday, we have low pressure to the North East of us, High Pressure attempting to build from the west. We are essentially trapped between the two, and that brings a north westerly wind across the uk, not a particularly warm north westerly wind, i have to say, and one that will also introduce quite a lot of cloud, especially across western areas. That cloud bringing in some showery rain at times. The best of the sunshine across eastern scotland, down across the eastern side of england, but temperatures will struggle. 16 to 20, maybe 21 degrees in the south of england, thats the very best we can expect. And then as we get on into tuesday, again, we can expect lots of cloud, some showery rain here and there. Weve still got that north westerly wind, so temperatures are going to be little disappointing for this point in mid august. A high of 17 perhaps in aberdeen, 19 in cardiff, 20 there in london. And as we head through the middle part of the week, we keep that north westerly flow across the uk and we keep that feed of cloud. Now, it is not going to be cloudy all the time, that cloud will break to give some sunny spells, but generally speaking, if you expect lots of cloud, you wont go too far wrong. Temperatures will struggle, though, high teens or low 20s. You are watching Bbc News. More than 300 people are known to have been killed by the latest devastating earthquake to hit haiti. Nearly 2,000 others were injured in the 7. 2 magnitude tremor. David willis reports. One of the poorest countries in the world has been dealt another devastating blow. And the people of haiti are once again dealing with the aftermath of a massive earthquake. This one centred on the countrys south western peninsula, a less populated area than the Capital Port au prince, which was flattened by an earthquake 11 years ago, but stronger and closer to the surface