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Lovely to see you both back. A quick look through our front pages. Cabinet ministers will order civil servants to return to the office, after months of Working From Home during the pandemic. One Whitehall Department says its struggling to get staff to come back forjust one day a week. Thats the Lead Story on The Times. The Daily Express pays tribute to britains olympic medallists, following Calls Forjason Kenny to be knighted. The guardian leads with a warning from environmental scientists, who say time is running out on our chances of tackling Climate Change. They say the risks to the global Climate System are imminent and dire. Britains greatest ever olympian, jason kenny, makes the front page of the metro as the olympics draws to a close. He won his seventh olympic Gold Medal this morning. The i says private Health Firms will profit form the nhs waiting list backlog, whilst more than half A Million patients could face delays for heart care. 2. 5 2. 5 million patients. And finally the Sun Tips its hat to what it calls gleam gbs olympic heroes, after Great Britain matches its Medal Haul from the London Games in 2012. So, lets begin. Tony you are going to kick us off at the front page of the express and it is a call to honour the heroes who lifted the nation. Lifted the nation. Congratulations to our olympians lifted the nation. Congratulations to our olympians who lifted the nation. Congratulations to our olympians who have lifted the nation. Congratulations to our olympians who have done| lifted the nation. Congratulations. To our olympians who have done a great to our olympians who have done a greatiob, to our olympians who have done a greatiob, it to our olympians who have done a greatjob, it has been an extremely tough greatjob, it has been an extremely tough road greatjob, it has been an extremely tough road to tokyo, the pandemic had a tough road to tokyo, the pandemic had a huge tough road to tokyo, the pandemic had a huge effect on olympic training had a huge effect on olympic training schedules as well as their psychological Well Being so it training schedules as well as their psychological Well Being so it is a brilliant psychological Well Being so it is a brilliant result. I wanted to congratulate tokyo who have done an incredible congratulate tokyo who have done an incredible job putting on this event incredible job putting on this event. The Closing And Opening ceremonies were both a triumph and there ceremonies were both a triumph and there were ceremonies were both a triumph and there were no problems within the organisation. It is such a huge achievement for tokyo sol organisation. It is such a huge achievement for tokyo so i think it is important to thank them as well. It is important to thank them as well. It was is important to thank them as well. It was touch is important to thank them as well. It was Touch And Go for tokyo in the olympics wasnt at . Yes it was Touch And Go for tokyo in the olympics wasnt at . It was Touch And Go for tokyo in the olympics wasnt at . Yes all sorts of debates about olympics wasnt at . Yes all sorts of debates about whether olympics wasnt at . Yes all sorts of debates about whether they olympics wasnt at . Yes all sorts of debates about whether they should | olympics wasnt at . Yes all sorts of i debates about whether they should go ahead and what form they should have gone ahead and they settled on a fully satisfied a pretty satisfactory compromises. We heard of a few Cases Orient but metals got awarded and i think everyone has agreed thatjust in great Chaos And Confusion in the world, this is something that hopefully a lot of countries got behind the same way we did, certainly something to celebrate and anything a bit like the football a few weeks ago a collective viewing experience, a collective viewing experience, a collective experience of highs and lows is just i think a collective experience of highs and lows isjust i think a bit collective experience of highs and lows is just i think a bit of a cliche but it is what we all need at the moment. I cliche but it is what we all need at the Moment Cliche but it is what we all need at the moment. ,. , the moment. I saw that you tweeted, caroline, that the moment. I saw that you tweeted, caroline, that you the moment. I saw that you tweeted, caroline, that you did the moment. I saw that you tweeted, caroline, that you did go the moment. I saw that you tweeted, caroline, that you did go back the moment. I saw that you tweeted, caroline, that you did go back and caroline, that you did go back and watch the race because the front page of The Sun has what is described as the golden Couple Jason and laura kenny, but it is that race that final push by jason. Race that final push byjason. It race that final push by jason. It is the stuff of race that final push by jason. It is the stuff of Fairy Race that final push byjason. It 3 the stuff of fairy tales. In an interview afterwards he said he was just running ragged and had nothing more to give but it certainly did not look like it. He clearly said he was racing every race as though it was racing every race as though it was his last but this really was and i think that cliche of leaving it all on the track, my goodness right from the start, it was a bit of a Mo Farah Exercise leading from the front and never ever stopping or looking back and so what a way to go out, very impressive. Out, very impressive. Tony, Sir Chris hoyt out, very impressive. Tony, Sir Chris hoyt was out, very impressive. Tony, Sir Chris hoyt was interviewed out, very impressive. Tony, Sir Chris hoyt was interviewed and out, very impressive. Tony, sir. Chris hoyt was interviewed and we spoke with him at the bbc because he has been a pundit with us and he was describing what his body would have been going through. Sir chris hoy. I been going through. Sir chris ho. , been going through. Sir chris ho. , hoy. I heard that interview and its end with something hoy. I heard that interview and its end with something i hoy. I heard that interview and its end with something i dont hoy. I heard that interview and its end with something i dont want l hoy. I heard that interview and its | end with something i dont want to experience end with something i dont want to experience so i would dont think you will experience so i would dont think you will see experience so i would dont think you will see me in paris in 2024. Caroline you will see me in paris in 2024. Caroline said this earlier, these Moments Caroline said this earlier, these moments of glory are preceded by years moments of glory are preceded by years of moments of glory are preceded by years of hard slog and disappointments and injuries and all Sorts Of Disappointments and injuries and all sorts of other issues. We see them at their sorts of other issues. We see them at their best sorts of other issues. We see them at their best but sports is difficult at their best but sports is difficult and takes a lot of effort and congratulations to them. Before we leave this. And congratulations to them. Before we leave this, what and congratulations to them. Before we leave this, what did and congratulations to them. Before we leave this, what did you and congratulations to them. Before we leave this, what did you make i and congratulations to them. Before we leave this, what did you make of| we leave this, what did you make of the variety of sports, the new events that were on show this year . I was a big fan of the bmx. I was consulted i was a big fan of the bmx. I was consulted for the time when britain did not consulted for the time when britain did not use consulted for the time when britain did not use to win any metals so it was all did not use to win any metals so it was all about Sportsmanship And Playing was all about Sportsmanship And Playing the game and now it is all about playing the game and now it is all about how playing the game and now it is all about how many metals we have one so it is a about how many metals we have one so it is a bit about how many metals we have one so it is a bit of about how many metals we have one so it isa Bit Ofa about how many metals we have one so it is a bit of a double Edge Sword but i it is a bit of a double Edge Sword but i think it is a bit of a double Edge Sword but i think for me the bmx was a revelation but i think for me the bmx was a revelation because i did not expected to be as exciting as i thought expected to be as exciting as i thought it was. Go to the front page of the guardian and on the side of time this morning being sounded on Climate Disaster from scientists this is the message from scientists. Depressing but we have been told we are almost out of time for a lot of time in efforts appear we are, i guess it is no incident quinces that this is on the eve of the crucial international summit later this year coming after we have all experienced these Flash Floods and extraordinary Wealth Weather conditions. Perhaps they feel this is the time to strike when we are all invested in wondering how is this happening, huge highs of sunshine what we all love and enjoy but then the dips, this is not coming out of nowhere, they have been talking about it for years and certainly this is all starting to make sense but i think there is a little bit of glib it is glib for the paper talking about not washing your screws before you put your screws in the dishwasher because bigger decisions must be made for some of the tory government should get behind technological innovation and technological disruption, we dont want to be bad or good but we are lemmings that need to be led in are lemmings that need to be led in a biggerfashion. Tow; are lemmings that need to be led in a bigger fashion. A bigger fashion. Tony do you think it will a bigger fashion. Tony do you think it will be a bigger fashion. Tony do you think it will be a a bigger fashion. Tony do you think it will be a hard a bigger fashion. Tony do you think it will be a Hard Sell a bigger fashion. Tony do you think it will be a Hard Sell for i a bigger fashion. Tony do you | think it will be a Hard Sell for the government to convince the public that It Government to convince the public Thatitis Government to convince the public that it is going to have to be paid for . ,. ,. ,. , that it is going to have to be paid for . ,. ,. ,. , for . Yes, it is going to be a really difficult sell for . Yes, it is going to be a really difficult sell for for . Yes, it is going to be a really difficult sell for the for . Yes, it is going to be a really difficult sell for the government. | difficult sell for the government. One of difficult sell for the government. One of the issues we have with this government is we have how can i be polite, government is we have how can i be polite, we government is we have how can i be polite, we have an optimist as Prime Minister polite, we have an optimist as Prime Minister and polite, we have an optimist as Prime Minister and the treasury we have Someone Minister and the treasury we have someone who is a bit more attached to the someone who is a bit more attached to the hard someone who is a bit more attached to the hard Core Reality of numbers, deficits to the hard Core Reality of numbers, deficits and to the hard Core Reality of numbers, deficits and tax rises. And this isnt deficits and tax rises. And this isntjust deficits and tax rises. And this isntjust to do deficits and tax rises. And this isnt just to do with the medications that we have all been required medications that we have all been required to take for Climate Change but also required to take for Climate Change but also the huge bill that we have run up but also the huge bill that we have run up in but also the huge bill that we have run up in dealing with the coronavirus pandemic. I think it will be coronavirus pandemic. I think it will be a coronavirus pandemic. I think it will be a tough sell and the tough sell is will be a tough sell and the tough sell is the will be a tough sell and the tough sell is the process the politicians tend to have a difficult time having a tough sell in a pre Election Period which in many ways pre Election Period which in many ways we pre Election Period which in many ways we are and so it will be tough but the ways we are and so it will be tough but the more the people become aware of the but the more the people become aware of the consequences of us not doing something of the consequences of us not doing something about it, it may become slightly something about it, it may become slightly easier but i dont hold that much hope for it. Do slightly easier but i dont hold that much hope for it. Slightly easier but i dont hold that much hope for it. Do you think caroline that that much hope for it. Do you think caroline that most that much hope for it. Do you think caroline that most of that much hope for it. Do you think caroline that most of the that much hope for it. Do you think caroline that most of the british i caroline that most of the british public are aware that there is something serious going on with the climate, we need definite policies . For sure. We cant say we have not been informed for many years. As i say academics have been studying this for years and worked at the Human Individual that does not really want to commit harm to the environment but nor are they inclined to do something good. What we want All Of Us is easy solutions to go into supermarkets and not have to go into supermarkets and not have to pay double the price for an Ego Sustainable product, we dont want to put our bins out if it is going to put our bins out if it is going to be too difficult. These are tiny Micro Versions of bigger challenges. Make it easy and Policy Lead and make it more holistic and comprehensive as a solution. It is the ultimate challenge that will require thought and huge amounts of collaboration. Eeco sustainable. The front page of The Times i was a Scan Reading this article, one of the sentences and phrases that got to me was there does not seem to be great enthusiasm to get back to work. I thought we were all Working From Home, werent we . , were all Working From Home, werent we . ,. , we . That article is full of increasingly we . That article is full of increasingly absurd we . That article is full of increasingly absurd statements present increasingly absurd statements present there is a part in there the said people present there is a part in there the said people are commuting, and they should said people are commuting, and they should be said people are commuting, and they should be paid less and i was thinking should be paid less and i was thinking if i cycle into work should i be thinking if i cycle into work should i be paid thinking if i cycle into work should i be paid less because i dont have to pay i be paid less because i dont have to pay for i be paid less because i dont have to pay for a i be paid less because i dont have to pay for a commute . There was always to pay for a commute . There was always going to be a difficulty when people always going to be a difficulty when people started Working From Home when people started Working From Home when they could realise that this luy when they could realise that this guy did when they could realise that this guy did not fall in and they were more guy did not fall in and they were more productive and people find it easier more productive and people find it easier not more productive and people find it easier not to have to deal with people easier not to have to deal with people on easier not to have to deal with people on a one to one basis in the office people on a one to one basis in the office people on a one to one basis in the office the people on a one to one basis in the office. The sky did not fall in. It office. The sky did not fall in. It is office. The sky did not fall in. It is more office. The sky did not fall in. It is more difficult to get people back into it is more difficult to get people back into work to get people to say at home back into work to get people to say at home back into work to get people to say at home then to get people to state at home then to get people to state that at home then to get people to state that neck there are thousands of businesses that depend people going of businesses that depend people going in of businesses that depend people going in in and out of london and other going in in and out of london and other metropolitan centres. We will either other metropolitan centres. We will either have other metropolitan centres. We will either have to force people to work in the either have to force people to work in the office five days a week or think in the office five days a week or think about a different way of structuring our economy. There is the first division structuring our economy. There is the first Division Association structuring our economy. There is the first Division Association who| the first Division Association who says that caroline they are sounding like luddites, the ministers and they are unaware that the world of work has already changed. This idea that Morality Work has already changed. This idea that morality is work has already changed. This idea that morality is low, work has already changed. This idea that morality is low, of work has already changed. This idea that morality is low, of Course Work has already changed. This idea that morality is low, of course that. That morality is low, of course that is probably true but i dont like this threat that people who will not be going into work into the office will be less in line for promotion because it is hard to measure their achievements on their tasks. This strikes me as the age old presenteeism that you go into work, Hang Yourjacket over the back of your chair and this will somehow ensure you are seen in a better way by your managers. I would think we are all over especially this last 18 months moving to this idea that we are tasked with ourselves. This will require people to be at work for also the reason is not least that youngsters in house shares are not enjoying this period of their working lives. It should be on a case by case discretionary business by Business Basis and the idea that whitehall will be coming up with this 1 size fits all solution, and everybody going back now i think there is some underlying agendas behind us and i think they need to have a big rethink and i would use the word luddites. It have a big rethink and i would use the word luddites. The word luddites. It did seem to work versus the word luddites. It did seem to work versus productivity the word luddites. It did seem to work versus productivity i the word luddites. It did seem to i work versus productivity i suppose. Lets go to the front page of the daily telegraph, tony. Two teenagers are going to university, you brought up the subject of apprenticeships. Too many teenagers. The thing is we should change the way apprenticeships are viewed. Absolutely but i think that will happen absolutely but i think that will happen pretty rapidly. Young people are pretty happen pretty rapidly. Young people are pretty savvy and will look at their are pretty savvy and will look at their options and will think should i their options and will think should i take their options and will think should i take on their options and will think should i take on £27,000 of debt or more because i take on £27,000 of debt or more because they would need some sort of Maintenance And Support as well or should Maintenance And Support as well or should i Maintenance And Support as well or should i take up an apprenticeship . What should i take up an apprenticeship . What concerns me is qualifications such as doctors, lawyers and not even wares, you could lawyers and not even wares, you could teach lawyers and not even wares, you could teach them all remotely. My concern could teach them all remotely. My concern is could teach them all remotely. My concern is university will become for really concern is university will become for really brilliant subjects and we will have for really brilliant subjects and we will have university be seen as a Privilege Will Have University be seen as a privilege of the indulgent which will take privilege of the indulgent which will take it back to what this country will take it back to what this country was a 50 or 60 years ago. There country was a 50 or 60 years ago. There are country was a 50 or 60 years ago. There are too many questions that neck there are too many questions that neck there are too many questions that neck there is too much costs and some neck there is too much costs and some universities may need to close because some universities may need to close because they are not up to scratch. Ithink because they are not up to scratch. I think the because they are not up to scratch. I think the cost coming out of the degree we are talking about Tens Of Thousands, caroline. The degree we are talking about Tens Of Thousands, caroline. Thousands, caroline. The debt is cri tlin thousands, caroline. The debt is crippling and thousands, caroline. The debt is crippling and that thousands, caroline. The debt is crippling and that widens thousands, caroline. The debt is crippling and that widens that i thousands, caroline. The debt is l crippling and that widens that very wide gap between privilege people who Go To University and the people who Go To University and the people who are struggling to get there. One of the challenges is the site that if you dont Go To University you are somehow a lesser employer and by the time youre in your 30s or 40s anecdotally, all the people i know that has very much levelled out and some of the smartest people i know never even did a levels or Go To University so i think it is all about perception and for some people at this Degree Apprenticeship will be a wonderful way forward and for other People University is the right thing, the balance is key but this idea that university is the only answer i think it is rather too many people are turning up and exploitation by some forces with international students coming here and pay Tens Of Thousands of pounds just to get your visa and to say you have an English Certificate is a something is really ridiculous. It something is really ridiculous. It would be interesting to find out from employers who they would rather have, someone who has never worked or someone who knows how to work from the off . Lets go to the front page of the Ft And Lionel messi is in tears, very wealthy but not a happy bunny. Tony can you take that, please . I wealthy but not a happy bunny. Tony can you take that, please . Can you take that, please . I have Noisy Who can you take that, please . I have Noisy Who lionel can you take that, please . I have Noisy Who Lionel Messi can you take that, please . I have Noisy Who Lionel Messi is can you take that, please . I have Noisy Who Lionel Messi is and can you take that, please . I have Noisy Who Lionel Messi is and i i Noisy Who Lionel Messi is and i dont Noisy Who Lionel Messi is and i dont know Noisy Who Lionel Messi is and i dont know who is reporting, i have no idea dont know who is reporting, i have no idea what dont know who is reporting, i have no idea what the ft are doing. Caroline no idea what the ft are doing. Caroline you no idea what the ft are doing. Caroline you have had a look at the figures. It caroline you have had a look at the fitures. ,. ,. ,. ,. ,. ,. , figures. It is an enormous amount of money involved figures. It is an enormous amount of money involved and figures. It is an enormous amount of money involved and it figures. It is an enormous amount of money involved and it is figures. It is an enormous amount of money involved and it is the money involved and it is the defining part of this story. All of the Sports Pages will be going on the Sports Pages will be going on the tears and the handkerchief and the tears and the handkerchief and the end of an era but frankly this is all about money and about a stricken Football Club who tried and failed to get their way into the european super week and now they have run out of Cash And Cant pay his mind boggling 70 Million Euros figure salary and i think frankly let him cry all the way into. It let him cry all the way into. It will be interesting to see what it does to other Football Club finances and negotiations. Caroline and tony it has been a pleasure as ever, thank you both very much indeed and have a lovely we and head. Week ahead. I wont be back. There will be another presenter with you shortly but from All Of Us, good night. Hello and welcome to the Film Review with me, anna smith. Im filling in for Mark Kermode to review this Weeks Cinema releases. I got you something. Ah

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