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As wildfires continue to burn across the region. More than 80 large wildfires in 13 us states have burnt around 1. 3 million acres in recent weeks. Now on bbc news. Scenes of burning cars and families under siege from a rampant mob shocked the nation. But why did this happen on an estate in swansea . Were Warning Signs ignored . And what can be done to stop it happening again . Bbc wales investigates. Emergency, the police, please. Smashing. Oh my god quick theres hundreds of people here. You need to come quick or theres going to be something bad happening. Quick cheering. At some point i expected to see Riot Police walking up that hill, but they never came. The riot on a Swansea Estate shocked us all. A mob Out Of Control the police under attack. Two months on, and questions are being asked why did this happen and could it have been prevented . Weve reached a point where things are starting to bubble over and the overwhelming response was just anger. Tonight, there are calls for action. It needs to be exposed, so that lessons can be learnt. Were not protected here. Thats how we feel. Things can go on and we wouldnt be protected in the worst case scenarios. Adam romain has decided to move his family away from the Mayhill Estate in swansea. You just think, how many times more can i allow my children to be exposed to this kind of thing . Its not been an easy decision to think weve got to move on, to be honest with you. His home was at the centre of the riot there in may. What started as a peaceful wake for a teenager ended in scenes rarely witnessed in wales. They were coming down with bumpers lit up On Fire. They were throwing it inside the black vehicle. It used to be black vehicle, trying to get it to light. I came and pulled it out to try and stop the fire. Adam had been working that night, when hed received a frantic call from his partner. In the background i can hear the kids screaming and crying. Immediately, pedal to the metal, and i was straight here. It felt like i was driving into a war zone. You could sense the atmosphere on the way up. You could see the bricks flying down. What i expected to find was ten times worse. This is my car, this is my property, this is my family. Shouting. Angry shouting. Thats when they were directly at me. I had bricks flying past my head. They were landing closer and closer, iran inside to get some shelter. Stay away from the windows. 0k stay away from the windows. Its going to be ok, son, the door is closed. Its going to be all right, son. Its going to be ok. Im thinking that could explode, the houses could catch fire. The Gas Boxes are out the front. Maybe the whole street could go up. Dont worry, ill be fine. Im well protected. Dont worry. Im armoured up, ive got a helmet up. Its ok, mum, ill be fine. While adam stayed to protect his home from the mob outside, his mother came to rescue his two young children and his partner. I arrived and it looked like a scene out of beirut. I was just absolutely shocked. Within feet of their houses, two burnt out cars which i found out later completely burnt out for three hours and exploded and. In front of their homes. So i took my grandchildren and brought them home here, with my daughter in law. The riot in mayhill has shocked everyone. Home Secretary Priti Patel described the scenes as disgraceful, and first Minister Mark Drakeford said they were completely unacceptable. Here on the estate itself, people are trying to put things back to normal but key questions remain. And among the most important ones could this have been prevented and why did it happen . Mayhill and townhill enjoy some of the best views in wales, and are collectively known as the Hill Home to 9,000 people. Some areas of mayhill are amongst the 10 most deprived areas in wales. Youve got deprived communities that are geographically isolated, even though they are within a couple of miles of the most affluent areas in the city. Basically, if youre not coming here, youd have no reason. You dont really pass through. 0wen Pillai was as a Youth Worker in one of the most challenging areas of swansea for nine years. You just Cant Look at it in isolation. Itjust made me upset that weve reached a point where things are starting to bubble over and the overwhelming Response Wasjust Anger with no kind of understanding of why it might be happening. Are you surprised it escalated the way it did . I wasnt surprised. I was disappointed to see we had reached the point where this is now how people are expressing themselves. According to statistics, the Deprivation Indicators of most concern in mayhill are employment, income, education and health. 120 over 70. Is that good . Thats perfect. Steph long is a Nurse Practitioner at the Gp Surgery in mayhill and she sees a wide range of patients with complex needs. Some as young as primary school. Early 20s, early 30s, predominantly. Yes. What kind of things are they presenting with . Depression, anxiety, Substance Abuse and misuse. Self harm. Everything that comes Part And Parcel with that, really. There was so much help before the pandemic, which has obviously had to stop because of the restrictions put in place, unfortunately. And people have been left for longer. The mental Health Team was already over stretched, and now you can add a year and a half waiting on to what they originally had. Steph says she needs more resources. Adam and his family have lived on the estate for four years, and he says most of the time there was little trouble. It seemed an ok place to live, as far as i was concerned. Everybody around here is very friendly, you know . People with kids meet each other at the park and we chat. Its been a nice community up until this. After going through such an awful experience, it was the Communitys Reaction which lifted adams spirits. Oh, that was amazing. That brought people together so much. It showed us more what people can do when they band together for a constructive, positive sense. And i think thats shown its much more powerful what people can do and i think thats shown its much more powerful than what people can do when they band together to cause destruction. Adam has a young family, but most people weve spoken to on the estate say there is precious little for teenagers and young adults to do here. In neighbouring townhill, i met skateboardersjohan and joe. Not much happens here. Yeah. People dont care about what happens here that much. Everyone cares about what happens in the popular areas. Theres not much to do here at all. What did you think about what you saw the other night, the trouble over in mayhill . I was surprised by it, cos i was like, what the hell . its round the corner from me. But i wasnt completely shocked cos im used to it sort of thing. Ive been to different areas and people set on cars ive been to different areas and theres been people setting on cars On Fire as a celebration. Its sort of like Second Nature now, round here. Theres always trouble, to be fair. Theres always trouble. Drugs, crime, stuff like that. Former Youth Worker 0wen says some young people on the estate can face a very stark choice. If you have the capacity to earn £1,500, £2,000 a week involved in drugs or someone then comes to you and says, 0k, well, we can get you back into education. In two years time youll be qualified to a level that will allow you to go out and compete in the Job Market for a job that earns potentially £2,000 a month. Its a very hard sell to someone who is responsible for feeding their family. Why do you think it happened . I think its been the perfect storm. Its decades and decades of chronic social deprivation mixed with a global pandemic, young people forced to isolate, and then the tragic death of one of their friends. Its Notjust Mayhill where we have seen frustrations with lockdown, and sometimes thats resulted in disorder. Angry shouting. We are getting a number of things coming together that suggest this summer is going to be particularly difficult. Martin innes is a criminologist who has studied and written policies on neighbourhood policing. Youve got People Cant go away, some people have been kind of cooped up together for long periods of time, you see crime and disorder generally rise over the summer, Spring And Summer months anyway, and then on top of that weve got layered in these extra factors. It really could be a bit tricky. I see it as part of a pattern where we are seeing violence erupt of different kinds, but this is one of a number of incidents we have seen. 0n the night of the disturbance in may, adam said he made three 999 calls to police in the hope they would come and help his family. Emergency which service . The Emergency Call Handler appears to reassure adam that the police are on their way. Emergency the police, please. Smashing. Screaming. Oh, my god quick adam they broke our window stay back. Calltaker whats going on . The Riot Theyve started to target my house. Theres two cars on Fire Right in front of my house. Screaming. Yes, two. Theres no need to shout at me. Im having bricks thrown at me what do you want me to do . theres hundreds of people here. You need to come quick theres going to be something bad happening. Quick weve got Police Officers there. They are at the bottom of The Hill. Theyre right here theyre three doors away from me. Four of us. Two adults and two infants. A four year old and a one year old baby. Well, theyre not doing enough. We need the Riot Police, orsomething. Theyre not doing anythnng. They are at the bottom of The Hill. This is what you need the police for. This is why you need the police, goddamnit. Theyve smashed through my front window, theyve smashed through my front door. No fear whatsoever. The police were nowhere to be seen. Lets just correct that a little bit there was one van, patrol there was one van, one patrol at the bottom of The Hill and that was it. Bbc reporter Rhys Williams filmed the aftermath on his phone, and as he left he went past the nearest police station, in townhill just a mile from the riot. Well, itsjust gone 11 oclock. I counted all in all 16 police vehicles, two ambulances and two Fire Engines outside townhill police station. The residents over on Waun Wen Road say that they still havent seen any Police Presence outside since this incident started at 7. 30. At some point i expected to see a barrier of Riot Police walking up that hill, driving them away. But it never came. Shouting. Some police were nearby, but they found themselves under attack and were forced to retreat. Smashing. The lack of police at the scene left the mob to rampage unchecked, claim adam and his mum, christina. They are fearless. Theres nothing there to threaten them. And thats where i would have expected even if a helicopter above, surely they think, oh, my god lets move it. Something should have happened to disperse them at this stage. I like you said, theyve got no fear of anything coming. No retaliation coming their way. No. How can anything be leftl to burn for hours like that and no services turn up . That is absolutely abominable. Right. Mid and west wales Fire Service says it took a tactical decision not to commit Fire Crews to avoid further escalation of the situation. But its the Police Response that night that adam and his family feel most let down by. They gave some explanations, but to be quite honest with you nothing was satisfactory. There was some individual officers, they apologised. They accept that there was a failing on that side. They have said that, have they . Yeah, some individual officers, yeah. So, from an individual perspective, nothing against it. As a whole, massively disappointed for the response, as a whole. Do you want a croissant with that, orjust a cuppa . Yeah, i could have a croissant, yeah. There was no monitoring of the situation. They went back and forth and took the bricks from The Wall and carried on. Im ringing the Emergency Services time and time again. They tell me they are aware of it. The neighbours rang the Emergency Services. Three hours they were left in turmoil. Three hours. Christina feels strongly that her family was failed and action needs to be taken. We pay our taxes and we expect to live with a certain amount of security. This is an extreme inaction, failing and people should i be made accountable. This requires a public inquiry because i would not like this to happen to anyone else in wales. The authorities called out on the night are now investigating what happened. South wales police is carrying out its own review into its actions headed by chief sutho maal. I can fully appreciate that the people living on Waun Wen Road, and the surrounding areas, this would have been a terrifying experience for them. In terms of the response, we will look at all of these aspects. What calls were made to us and over what period of time we responded. But that will become apparent in due course. Of course one of the allegations made against the police is that the Police Response that night was wholly inadequate. And that for the space of two or three hours there wasnt a sufficient Police Response. Do you accept people have reason to be disappointed . Ill look at all aspects of it. So, mobilising resources, notjust from the immediate area but from across the force, which is something obviously we can do. Ill be looking at that, mobilising resources, command decisions. And decisions as to when, where and how resources were deployed to the scene. Seven Police Officers suffered minor injuries as they tried to confront the mob, with reports of up to 200 people at the scene. While the police were forced back by the crowd, some locals took the matter into their own hands. As the police withdrew a number of local men, including a former boxing professional walked down The Street and confronted the mob. Those local residents who are well respected in the community told us that the crowd ran away in all directions. And that, they say, that was the end of the trouble. Was the end of the trouble. But weve discovered that there was an earlier incident with some parallels a few months ago, which also shocked many residents in this street. Back in february we had an incident which was about 2am. A vehicle was taken from the top of The Hill and basically free wheeled down, come flying down and smashed through this barrier. Thats the stolen car which came flying down The Hill. It hit both and landed in that diagonal way across the road. The community, wed got together and we started discussing whether we should just buy ourselves the concrete barriers and just put them there. The police and the council would have known now because of this event that there is a danger and the bollards were not going to protect very much. That issue, as im aware, was isolated. There was a much bigger discussion going on around motorcycles, about people being able to cycle fast up and down The Hill. The leader of the council insists there were plans in place to prevent anti social behaviour on the road, but they hadnt yet been introduced. That meant we were looking at a much different solution to just putting a bollard in. We are looking at a park and play area, a Re Greening of the whole area a complete break in the area between this road and that road. The solution that was being worked up was one that was a much better solution for the community. I dont hold to the premise that even putting these in would have prevented somebody trying to roll a car trying to roll a car down if they were intent on criminal activity on that evening. Amongst the 30 arrests made by police were young adults, teenagers and even children. And its that younger generation that many people say are in particular need of a helping hand. They come here theres 60, 70 kids here a night thats not roaming the roads, playing, you know, silly buggers with peoples cars, or malicious damage. Theyre in here and theyre learning a little bit of a skill and a little bit of respect. Stephen crocker is a former boxer, now a coach at the local club. Without this, where would you be . Youd be on The Streets at night, nothing to do and thats what they do theyre roaming the roads with nothing to do. Terry here has helped thousands of kids over the years. It teaches you a lot of discipline. Especially after training, you are so tired you cant be bothered to go round The Streets up to no good theres literally Kids These Days got no respect cause no one i gets disciplined enough. Theyjust dont have nothing to do, so when they come up the gym, i not everyones too scared to come up the gym. But if they come up here, as soon. As you walk through the doors youre not scared any more youre fine. Are you proud of where you come from . Well, yeah. I know a lot of good people up here have been given a bad name it was like on the national news, wasnt it . Theres good people doing good things not given the same publicity. But then you get the few burning cars and trashing the place and they are giving it nationwide. And i dont think thats fair. Stephen believes a Lack Ofjob prospects on the estate can lead to problems. Thats why theyre alcohol and drugs and mischievous behaviour is going on. They are not happy. In general, when people find a job and find some work they grow as people. And in this area thats missing. The Police And Council are already holding their own investigations into what happened. And now an independent review has been announced on top of that. Funded by the welsh government, it is hoped it will report before the end of the summer. The key thing is that independent inquiry, which i was very keen should happen as soon as possible, is answering the questions the community were asking us the day after the event. They want to know what lead up to it, what everybody did to respond to it and what happens to try to prevent it happening again . Those are the three sort of areas it will look at. There will be and there has been significant investment in mayhill, townhill and gors. That investment has gone in, but were on a journey to try and shore up the community, to support it, to help it to recover as we come out of the covid pandemic. Those families caught up in the riot welcome the review, but hope that it will go further and tackle some of the deep rooted problems in the area. I nobody should accept that servicesl do not function because we pay good money for these services and everybody wants to live well. And weve had a year of difficulty for everybody and these are important services, so that this does not happen again. So that we stop it in the bud, if thats possible and i always think its possible. It has been an emotional roller coaster. For a long time i was blaming myself for all of it. I was thinking, this is my fault for bringing the children here, for bringing the family here. Im still concerned for the people left behind who cantjust Get Up and leave so easily. But Adams Mind is made up, and reluctantly hes decided to move on. Theres the memories of all the good stuff that has happened, together with the bad. And ive had to re question myself about the decisions. I came to the conclusion that if i did stick around and trust that things are going to be better now and things like this wont happen again and it did i dont think id be able to forgive myself for the children going through it again. Thats my main motivation to move. Hello. Whilst its been a sunny sunday for some, for others, theres been torrential rain and thunderstorms. This is where theyve been developing through the afternoon through parts of east anglia, Down Into London and the Home Counties and towards the south coast, the red and yellow colours there indicating the frequent lightning strikes, and they will keep going for a time this evening before starting to pull away slowly south and east. Could just cling onto the far South East of england overnight. Elsewhere, mainly dry, mist and low cloud returning to northern and eastern coasts, also across northern ireland. Elsewhere, some clearer skies, but, once again, its a muggy and mild night with Lows Ofjust 15 16 celsius in places. A fairly quiet start to the new week for many, dry with some Morning Sunshine once the mist and low cloud breaks, but thunderstorms never too far away, always hit and miss, not everyone will see them. In fact, where we dodge them and get the best of the sunshine, we could see highs of 25 26 celsius across parts of england and wales, but cooler for scotland and northern ireland. Further showers, though, in the week ahead, and feeling cooler both by day and by night. The Health Secretary faces criticism for saying that people shouldnt cower from coronavirus. Sajid javids words were called insensitive by bereaved families hes now apologised and said he did not mean to minimise the impact of covid. Ministers are to meet tomorrow to discuss how exemptions from isolation will work, as businesses say there is still too much uncertainty. And as another fall in new infections is recorded, well be looking at the latest data. Also tonight. Police warn of the dangers of open water after three people, including a nine year old, drown in loch lomond. And in tokyo, Chelsie Giles becomes team gbs first medallist with her bronze injudo. While Adam Peaty is nowjust hours away from the race which he hopes will bring him olympic gold again

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