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Stay with us here on bbc news. It is time now for Monday In Parliament. Hello again, and welcome to Monday In Parliament. Nojeans, no trainers, no jabs. As some covid rules are lifted, others are tightened. We plan to make full vaccination a condition of entrance to nightclubs and other venues where large crowds gather. As Travel Restrictions are tightened too, theres a warning that things could get worse. Its entirely possible that much of the world may follow Bulgaria And Place travel from the uk on a red list. Also in this programme questions in the lords about about the disappearance of notes and coins. What analysis the government has made of the declining acceptance of cash by retailers, particularly| in the Hospitality Sector. But first it was supposed to be Freedom Day the day people in england could throw away their masks, end social distancing, and even go clubbing. But, as it turned out, the Prime Minister, the chancellor, and the Health Secretary spent the day in self isolation, as indeed did hundreds of thousands of others whod been pinged by The Nhs app. Boris johnson answered questions at a News Conference via Video Link from the Prime Ministers country residence, chequers. He and Rishi Sunak had announced they would use a little known Testing Scheme so they didnt have to isolate but they backed down after a political backlash. It was left to the Vaccine Deployment Minister to update mps. Nadhim zahawi announced that, from the autumn, vulnerable children aged 12 15 would be vaccinated, and also that Vaccine Passports would be compulsory for Night Clubs and other crowded spaces. By The End of september, everyone aged 18 and over will have the chance to receive full vaccination, and the additional two weeks for that protection to really take hold. So at that point, we plan to make full vaccination a condition of entrance to nightclubs and other venues where large crowds gather. Proof of a negative test will no longer be sufficient. Any decisions will, of course, mr speaker, be subject medical reasons of why they cannot get vaccinated. And im clear that we will always look at the evidence available and do all we can so people can continue to do the things they love. He defended the use of self isolation, despite signs that staff absences are hitting industry and public services. However, we recognise there are some very specific circumstances where there would be a serious risk of harm to public welfare if people in critical roles are unable to go to their workplace, like Air Traffic controllers or train signallers. So, people in those kinds of roles who have received two vaccinations, plus two weeks beyond the second vaccination will not need to self isolate to perform those critical tasks they will however have to continue to self isolate at all other times. Labour attacked the Prime Minister, who once praised a mayorfrom the movies. Now, mr speaker, three weeks ago, the Health Secretary told us that unlocking would make us healthier, and he promised us it would be irreversible. But today, we have some of the highest Infection Case rates in the world and the mayor from jaws has decided to reopen the beaches, recklessly throwing off all restrictions with no Safety Precautions in place, like mandatory mask wearing. He wanted to know more about sundays rapid u turn. Because we know the Prime Ministers and the Chancellors Plan was to dodge isolation. So, can he tell us how this random Clinical Trial that so helpfully randomly selected the Prime Minister, the chancellor, and the chancellor of the Duchy Of Lancaster was set up . Can he tell us what exactly happened between 8am and 10 38am on Sunday Morning that persuaded the prime Minister And Chancellor to withdraw from this presumably valuable clinical random study . Ministers are no longer taking part in the scheme. The snp said the government was going against expert opinion. Last week, over 1,200 scientists, doctors, i and Disease Experts said. That the Uk Government and its complete and immediate unlocking of england with only. 54 of the whole population fully vaccinated was, it said, a threat to the world. Will the Uk Government accept responsibility should the concerns of these experts come true . I the idea of covid passports for nightclubs divided conservatives. I have to say, i dont welcome the ministers statement, actually, particularly his announcement of compulsory Vaccine Passports for crowded venues which is effectively moving to compulsory vaccination. However, i do look forward to the debate and the vote in parliament in september, when he will bring forward the evidence because i dont think actually that policy is supported by the events pilots that have taken place. If were going to introduce Covid Vaccine passports i for nightclubs by The End of september which i support why are we waiting untilthen, giving more weight to the concerns of people. Who want to go to nightclubs than the additional extra cases waiting two months is likely. To cause at a time when that growth in the new cases is of such a concern . By The End of september, is year olds will receive their second dose, and we will work with the industry to make sure we get this right now, in terms of working with them with the covid pass, and in september when we can collect the evidence. Like hundreds of thousands of other school children, my seven year old daughter is out of school, at home today, self isolating. Im sure hell agree with me that children have paid far too high a price in this pandemic in terms of their Mental Health and education, and missing out on school. So, what guarantees can this government provide to pupils and parents across the country that schools will reopen in septemberfully and safely, and stay open . Will he rule out any further School Closures . I would give her the reassurance that our children will have two supervised tests upon their return, and testing will continue until The End of september. So, it is a combination of that and, of course, vaccinating at scale all adults, as well, which helps us control the transmission because we know double vaccinated people obviously reduce Transmission Rates by 55 . Nadhim zahawi. Well, at the start of the day, the speaker Made A plea for mp5 to continue to wear face coverings in the commons. Last week, there was consternation from unions when it emerged that, while its compulsory for parliamentary staff to wear masks, its only optional for mp5 because theyre not employed by parliament. Sir Lindsay Hoyle made his opinion on the matter clear. We have four sitting days before the house rises. I really want us to behave safely and responsibly during these few days. None of us wants to risk taking covid back to our families, staff, or constituents, and im sure we will want everyone working on their state to feel safe and secure, and to ensure the business of this house continues. I have to say, weve certainly got a large number of people that have been contacted, so im very worried about the outcome. Four days to go, i want us all to have a good break and enjoy our holidays. So hopefully we will take it seriously and not push the limits for the sake of it. Sir Lindsay Hoyle. Now, International Travel may be a distant memory for most, but there were signs of hope when the government introduced its Traffic Light System this summer. It gave travellers the option of going abroad to so called Green List Countries without needing to isolate on return with the benefit extended on monday to those travelling to Amber List countries if theyd been double jabbed. But labour has attacked the government for what it called Chaotic Changes last week that saw the Balaeric Islands downgraded to amber, and a new Amber Plus Rule introduced for those returning from france, where even fully vaccinated people would have to isolate at home. Asking an urgent question in the commons, labours shadow Transport Secretary was unimpressed. Again, the governments Travel Rules have been thrown into chaos and confusion. The british people, the Travel Industry, and members of this house are running out of patience. He called for all the data to be published on why countries were moved to different lists. And he quoted the boss of easyjet to highlight the unhappiness of the Travel Industry at large. Its remarkable that a major Airline Ceo commented over the weekend that the government, and i quote, is making it up as they go along, causing confusion and uncertainty. The Travel Industry was promised a rescue deal, but it never revised. They were promised corridors and bridges that didnt happen either. Its vital now that we take the actions needed, get their house in order, and get this important industry the support that it needs. The government defended its changes, saying Public Health remained its priority. Thats why on friday, the government took the decision to exempt france from the new arrangements for fully vaccinated people returning to england. This decision was taken after concerns were raised by the joint Bio Security Centre over the persistent presence of cases in france of the beta variant, which was first identified in south africa. But conservative mps were lining up to criticise the move. Why did the Government Move so quickly to change those rules . I i think that message i really needs to be key. And secondly, why was france singled out when the Beta Prevalence is seen in many European Countries and its seen by many to be quite low in france . Its right the government acts quickly, and it would be a disaster if france had become a red country. But new variants are going to keep coming, i think thats inevitable, and what this sector needs, and families and travellers need is certainty and predictability. Im sorry to say that further restrictions on france stretches both the credibility of the system put in place and the patience of the Travel Industry the whole industry, from Regional Airports including exeter, To Travel Agents in places like Sim Worth who continue to watch as their reserves are dried up, their support is reduced from the government, and their ability to trade is hampered beyond any other industry. Others echoed this concern, calling for more support for the Aviation And Travel sectors. It feels a little like groundhog day. I stand before this minister and ask for Sector Specificl Support for aviation,. And he rolls off figures which bear no relation to the reality of what Aviation Workers and the sector actually needs. Its entirely possible that much of the world may follow Bulgaria And Place travel from the uk on a red list. If this were to happen, what comfort can the Minister Offer to the Uk Travel sector . And does he not recognise that now is the time for additional support for this beleaguered sector, as Travel Disruption looks set to continue for the foreseeable future . The Travel Agent Industry needs in fact, must have new grants applied to it, because it cannot survive, minister, it cannot survive. And it employs thousands of people, it produces a huge amount of Taxation Revenue for this country. But it will not survive, it needs that support. The minister tried to reassure mps. We estimate that the Aviation Sector itself will have benefited from approximately £7 billion worth of support by september, as well as the other sectors which have benefited from the Cross Economy Support schemes that the government has put in place. And the best way we can assist all those sectors is that we unwrap International Travel as soon as we can whilst protecting Public Health. Because thats the best way to help them. Robert courts. Well, a short time earlier, the top Civil Servant at the Department For Transport was grilled by mps on the public Accounts Committee about some of the travel changes. Bernadette kelly agreed that putting france in a separate new category did add complications to the Traffic Light System. We seem to have introduced a fourth light in the traffic lights, which is usually a recipe for chaos, i wouldve thought. Are we likely to see more fourth lights . Or will we see a rainbow of all the colours with joy for everybody, but perhaps an illusory crock of gold at The End of it . Where are we going to with all this travel theres pent up demand for travel in this country, people want clear messages. Look, i understand that obviously, what we have done here with france is introduce an exemption to the red traffic light, which nonetheless requires people whove been double vaccinated to quarantine on arrival. I agree it does add some complications, but i think what we are doing now is urgently ensuring we have a system that is as effective, and also something that people can understand. She was also asked about Domestic Travel complications. If youre on an Lner Train travelling from England L through to scotland, the rules change as you cross the border have you any idea how that will practically work . | well, what i hope is that people will be sensible and put their facemasks on if they havent already got them on at The Point at which they travel into scotland where its mandatory. Its very much the same as coming in on a train to a London Mainline station, and getting onto the tfl network. So, i say were relying on peoples good Sense And Judgment here, i think. And certainly what i saw this morning was a lot of people wearing masks on public transport, which i think we would expect. Bernadette kelly. Youre watching Monday In Parliament with me, david cornock. Dont forget that if the Re Opening of nightclubs means you miss our daily round up of political life, you can catch up via the bbc iplayer. The Home Secretary has robustly defended her plans to overhaul the Asylum System in a bid to deter migrants crossing the English Channel. Priti patel was speaking at the start of two days of debate on the the nationality and Borders Bill which will make it a Criminal Offence to knowingly arrive in the uk without permission. The bill would also introduce a maximum Life Sentence for those convicted of people smuggling and give ministers the power to allow asylum claims to be processed outside the uk. The british people have had enough of Open Borders and uncontrolled immigration. Enough of a failed Asylum System that costs the taxpayer over £1 billion a year. Enough of dinghies arriving illegally on our shores directed by organised crime gangs. Enough of people drowning on these dangerous, illegal and unnecessary journeys. Enough of people being trafficked and sold into modern slavery. The Home Secretary said the system was being abused and action had to be taken to support the victims of traffickers and genuine Asylum Seekers. Our plan will increase the fairness of our system so that we can better protect those that are in need of genuine asylum, and that is absolutely right, it is important that we have that fair principal. But also mr deputy speaker, it will deter something that i sense the Party Opposite are not interested in. It will deter illegal entry to the uk and importantly break the Business Model of the Smuggling Gangs and protect the lives of those that theyre endangering. Labour said the bill was wrong and would make the situation in the English Channel worse. People risking their lives making a Sea Crossing in some of the busiest Shipping Lanes in the world often in boats that are unfit for purpose. But the measures proposed will not address this. Byjudging claims on the Type Ofjourney people make, ministers will create a discriminatory two tiered approach to asylum. Not my words, madam deputy speaker, but the words of the united nations refugee agency. The bill was ill thought through and dangerous, he said, and labour would oppose it. Its a missed opportunity that represents the worst of all worlds letting evil criminals off the hook and failing those who have been exploited. The cruel irony of this Governments Approach is theyre weak on taking action against criminal gangs and brutal when it comes to orphan children from war zones. I wanted to raise the issue of people seeking protection but entering illegally without a valid Entrant Clearance becoming a new Criminal Offence. We must not send the message that somebody who is genuinely fleeing from persecution and whose only route out of that persecution is to the uk is automatically going to be seen as a criminal. What we have here is a deliberate Policy Decision to inflict harm on people seeking sanctuary criminalising them, splitting people from their families, forcing them into destitution, putting them into legal limbo, off shoring them. So, notjust ineffective and dangerous but morally outrageous. But not only is this bill the opposite of the right solution, it wrongly identifies the problem that needs solving. The problem in the Asylum System is simply down to the incompetent management of it. I welcome my right honourable friend the Home Secretarys reiterated commitments to a firm but fair immigration system, and there can be no question that the issue of small boats making perilous crossings of the busiest Shipping Lane in the world is a challenging one. I have many constituents who are concerned at the crossings, and my. Right honourable friend in her opening remarks reminded us all that this is a trade in human misery. The governments floated a range of impossible proposals sending Asylum Seekers to be processed on the ascension island, on disused Oil Platforms and, most recently, to be sent to rwanda. Of course these proposals are impossible but its deeply troubling that the minister even thinks its ok for these to be floated and to not deny them. And the debate on that bill continues on tuesday. Now, since the pandemic, more and more of us are paying for things with cards or smartphones but peers have demanded that the government does more to make sure everyone has access to cash. Ministers have launched a consultation on the issue, and they say theyll bring in laws to make sure people only have to travel a reasonable distance to take out or pay in cash. Several peers emphasised how important cash was. And if the future of financial services is digital, that future must be inclusive, accessible and empowering and at least until that future, cash still matters, and it matters materially to millions. I would absolutely agree with my noble friend. In fact, cash remains the second most used Payment Form in this country and thats exactly why weve made this commitment to legislate and launch the consultation on our specific proposals. What the data tells us is that| Cash Usage is higher amongst higher age groups, those. With Mental Health issues, those on lower incomes and other categories. Will the Noble Baroness the minister agree with me that what works for some groups within society in terms of digital payment and proves financially viable for major. Banking institutions simply does not work for large numbers of people a diocese of 3 Million like suffolk and many others . And what about those who wanted to pay with cash . May i please ask my noble friend the minister what analysis the government has made of the declining acceptance of cash by retailers particularly in the Hospitality Sector and whether any measures are planned to reverse that apparent trend . Well, my lords, analysis has been done by the Bank Of England that showed 40 of people had visited a store that did not accept cash in the six months prior to January 2021 and that is an increase on the January 2020 figure of around 15 . Were taking forward several measures. As part of this consultation, we will help businesses to continue accepting cash by ensuring reasonable access to cash Depositing Facilities as well as Cash Atms and withdrawal facilities. Lady penn. Parliament is scrutinising legislation that confirms, in law, the principle that animals have feelings. The animal welfare sentience bill, which only applies to vertebrates, would also establish a committee to assess whether Government Policies are taking Animal Sentience into account. The Environment Committee has been investigating whether the measures will help australian sheep or spineless creatures, such as lobsters. How can Animal Sentience be treated seriously if weve just agreed a deal with australia that allows farmers there to basically sheer off the backside of sheep to avoid flystrike causing an enormous pain . And if that is the precedent that is legal and is bound by international treaties, what hope is there to have a meaningful animal Sentience Act . Its absolutely critical to make sure that this bill does finally include enough detail to safeguard against these kind of Animal Cruelties being legitimised through trade deals. But just to turn it around, i mean, i certainly the rspca understands that being recognised as sentient does not guarantee you freedom from inhumane treatment. Wed be very, very naive if we thought that. But without recognition of sentience then, the bar is so well, there is very little course to have any kind of protection for these animals. So, you have to start somewhere, a recognition of Sentience And Requirement to pay due regard to the welfare of sentient animals is a start. And she hoped the new committee would help. The bill as i understand it, it requires an animal Sentience Committee which will scrutinise Government Policy across the whole range of policy areas, and that will include policy on Animal Imports and trade deals. So, the proper outcome should be that if the Asc Scrutinises Government Policy and finds that government has not paid due regard to the welfare of sentient animals by allowing the import of Sheep Whove been mulesed, then thats how its supposed to work. Things ought to change, the policy ought to be changed. Well, in broad terms, i think from our submissions, wed be very much in agreement with the rspca, that there is an absolute lack of clarity over the role, the scope, and the range of the animal Sentience Committee, and this is the Critical Point i think in this discussion. We dont know. And under questioning in the house of lords, ministers have a range of answers which essentially said that the committee will to a large extent set its own boundaries. It raises the problem of a committee whose powers and scope are completely undefined roaming across government taking a view of ministerial decisions on the basis of only one factor. And that is. You know, it may well be an improvement on the last one but it couldnt get much worse. So, i think there does need to be consideration if this is the best way of delivering both the oversight and the declaratory intent of protecting the welfare of sentient animals, and there would seem to be a lot of different ways of skinning this cat to use a not particularly welfare friendly phrase. And we are concerned that in its current form, this committee is not the right way of delivering that. Should the scope of the bill be expanded beyond non human vertebrae . The evidence is particularly strong for octopuses, where i think its really very strong indeed. But i think because youve got substantial evidence right across the Cephalopod Mollusc and the decapod crustaceans, i those those are appropriate categories to be using in the law. Do you think that we ought to be looking at ways in which you can humanely harvest these species without causing pain . Im thinking, for instance, lobsters, squid. You could almost get to a stage where you say when you bring them to the surface, youre basically causing them pain and we could end up with a Fishing Industry that was non existent. So, where do you think you would draw the line . Professor birch said measures had to be proportionate. Some of the ways in which decapods are slaughtered | on land are just extreme methods that are gratuitous. I think throwing an animal into a pot of boiling water| is gratuitous when there are ways to kill it much more quickly and professionally. And he said it took 2 3 minutes for lobsters to die in the Horrendous Circumstances of boiling water. Well, that was Monday In Parliament. Thank you for watching. I do hope you canjoin me at the same time tomorrow for tuesday in parliament. Until then, from me, david cornock, and all of the team here, bye for now. Hello again. Monday was another hot and sunny day for the majority of us, but there were a few storms that popped up. One or two affecting sussex and kent, there were a few storms in South Wales for a time and there was one in the veil of york but otherwise we have skies like these can be the majority of us having dry, sunny and hot day. And talking of heat, the Met Office have issued their first extreme heat warning. Why now . Well, these warnings only started being issued injune and this is just the first hot spell we have seen. But this area, it represents an area of concern to the Met Office where we could see some impacts from the heat whether that be impacts to health or indeed infrastructure, things like trains might need to go slightly slower due to the tracks heating up in this hot weather. That kind of thing. At the moment theres not too much going on, its a clear start to the day tuesday and of course it has been very warm overnight, those temperatures starting off Tuesday Morning at around 16 degrees across parts of england and wales. A little bit fresher for scotland and Northern Ireland. But its going to be another hot and sunny day. High pressure firmly in charge, however into the afternoon some thunderstorms will break out and i think this is the kind of area we are most likely to see the downpours. They are likely to be bigger storms, so want to hear reports of some localised Surface Water Flooding in one or two of the biggest storms that do pop up. Otherwise, its another hot and sunny one. Temperatures widely mid to high 205, the low 305 in the very hardest parts of the country. And we are used to this, arent we . After such a hot day those temperatures slow to come down, this is 11 oclock at night and you can see those temperatures are still up at 23 there in birmingham and london. Again, a little bit lower than that for scotland and Northern Ireland, but still plenty warm enough. Now our area of High Pressure hangs around to wednesday, the only Real Change is It Reorientation slightly to push that hotter air a little bit further northwards. So one thing you will notice as temperatures tending to rise in Northern Ireland and scotland into more generally the high 205 i think as we go into wednesday. Again there could be an Odd 5hower Popping Outcome of but for the majority it will continue with that Dry Run of whether with temperatures in the high 205 to low 305 in the hottest area5. Beyond that thursday and friday we keep the hot and sunny weather for the most part, there will be a change eventually coming, it looks look at might come through on the weekend. With Heavy Rain for some. Hello and welcome to bbc news. Our top stories. The british Prime Minister is accused of putting politic5 before the lives of people during the pandemic by his former chief advi5er. In iraqi a Bomb Blast kills at least 3a people in a sheer muslim area of baghdad. 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