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Now on bbc news, Tuesday In Parliament. Hello again, and welcome to Tuesday In Parliament as mps accuse ministers of burying good news on coronavirus. We could have safely opened on 21 june. Thats the real reason why it hasnt been published. So, why doesnt he publish it today and put our minds at rest . But scotland, too, delays the lifting of Covid Restrictions by three weeks. To use the Race Analogy that many have used before, we must not allow the virus to get too far ahead of the vaccines. Also in this programme how are children coping with the pandemic . I think we really need to acknowledge that we have a very strong, resilient generation| that we should be incredibly proud of. All that to come, and more. But first some encouraging news. Mps have been told that Test Events held at sporting, music, and other venues have not caused any covid 19 outbreaks. But the minister for sport, nigel huddleston, said the government was not yet in a position to publish the full report into the Events Research Programme to the annoyance of mps. Pilot events included the Fa Cup final at wembley, the brit awards, and the World Snooker championships. Next months wimbledon finals are also scheduled to be played in front of full crowds. Mr speaker, i am sure the house recognises how vital this research is in supporting the reopening of venues and sectors that we and our constituents are so passionate about. However, it is important to recognise that public safety is the main priority. Although we are not yet in a position to publish the full report, i can assure the house that Post Event data is closely monitored and have not shown any evidence of the events causing outbreaks. If they had, we wouldve communicated that information urgently. The minister was answering an urgent question from labour. The terms of reference for the programme were published on 22 february. Were four months on and no results have been published. Last month, the Secretary Of State said in a Newspaper Interview that 15 of 15,800 erp participants tested positive for covid but still no results published. And im afraid there was nothing really in the Ministers Response just now to explain the failure to publish the results. Whats the secret . Why wont the government tell the public, tell industry, tell us what the results are . Because all of those whove spent time and money organising and hosting Test Events, and those relying on this programme would like to see the results. Jo stevens said those results should be published now. Nigel huddleston said theyd be revealed very soon and before Covid Restrictions are lifted. But he struggled to win over some mps on his own side. Will my honourable friend commit to releasing all. Available data as a matter of urgency, writing to the select committee. With what we know to date, and does he realise the clear failures to do so adds to a growing impression that some decision makers are being swayed by unaccountable scientists without the proper and relevant data being put before them . I after all, we are a democracy, not some sort of scientocracy. I the honourable Member And Chair and select committee absolutely highlights the importance of making sure that information is correct and that data is accurate, because it will help inform decisions about opening up. Well be using the Events Research Programme, as well, to also provide guidance to the sector. And were well aware they need that guidance as far in advance as possible in order to help them with the events and the logistical arrangements when they open them. So the honourable member is making very important points, i completely agree with him, we do want to get the information and the data out very soon, and well be doing so before the next phase as we stated at the beginning of the programme. The events and live Music Sector has been calling for Government Covid Insurance help for months. 50s the snp and tories mps, including members of the select committee. So, why are ministers not listening to their colleagues on this . What are the arguments against offering Insurance Help for this vital sector that desperately needs it . The government is very aware of the wider concerns around securing indemnity for the live events sector, and we do continue to assess options to provide further support to the sector within the public health context. So, they are live considerations. Im a little confused, mr speaker. Normally when the government doesnt publish something, its normally because its bad news and its trying to hide it away. Ive got a very strong suspicion that this set of data is fantastically positive. It must be ready for publication because it mustve been prepared for last week when step four was due to be announced. It must be ready to go. My fear, mr speaker, is it demonstrated the opposite of the decision the Prime Minister announced last week. It would have demonstrated that we could have safely. Opened on 21 june. Thats the real reason why it hasnt been published. So, why doesnt he publish it today and put our minds at rest . Im afraid some of the Conspiracy Theories around this, im afraid, i wouldnt buy into. We have said already, i stated at the beginning, that if there were major concerns, we wouldve made sure the information was in the public arena. That would be the responsible thing to do. The delay in the publication of this erp data is not without real world consequences, particularly for those of us in Lancaster And South cumbria where we saw the Cancellation Yesterday of the kendal calling festival. That is a festival which has received no support from the Culture Recovery Fund, cancelled now for a second year. This will have real world economic consequences in my local area. The minister i listened very carefully to what he said has failed to give any credible reason for the delay in publishing this data. So, can he just try once to give one credible reason for why the delay in publishing this data . Well, theyre announcing Culture Recovery Fund phase three very shortly, and im sure thatll be received as positively across the whole house as the previous phases. I think its important to be very clear the reason why were unable to get to phase four, step four of the Road Map is not because of the delay of the release of this document. Its because of increases in Infection Rates and the inability to meet the tests required to reach phase four because of the increase in Infection Rates and concerns about the variant of concern. That is why we are not able to open all the events programmes as we would like at this moment in time. Would the Minister Consider making this House Of Commons a Pilot Event for one wednesday before recess ripping out these stupid i barriers, getting the public back in, voting in the lobbies to see what happens . Im not sure thats the ministers decision, but mine to deal with. Come on, minister i dare not step on anybodys toes in answering this one. | im sure the appropriate authorities have heard the honourable members question. And its an intriguing one. Nigel huddleston. Later, the government announced that the Crowd Capacity at wembley will be raised to more than 60,000 for the Semi Finals and final of euro 2020. The increase will also see the largest crowds assembled for a Sporting Event in the uk in more than 15 months. But it doesnt yet help welsh football fans, whose team will be playing Denmark In Amsterdam this weekend. Some danish supporters will be there, but welsh fans have been told not to travel. The leader of the tories in the Senedd Isnt happy. Given the change in circumstances for danish fans and, as i understand it, the level of infection is the same in denmark as it is in wales will you be making any representations to the dutch authorities to allow welsh fans to travel should they meet the Travel Requirements that are placed on travelling fans to watch in tournament matches . Because i do believe the ground has now moved given that both teams are on the same Field Yesterday when it came to fans restrictions. But today, the danish government have moved to allow their fans to travel within a 12 Hour Window for saturdays match. The advice of the welsh government has not changed, its the same advice that the Football Association of wales and, indeed, the foreign Commonwealth Office have given to fans. But this is not the year to travel to watch wales play abroad. And im hugely grateful to those thousands of people who would dearly have loved to have been able to travel and to have gone to support the Welsh Team elsewhere, who have followed the advice that they have been given which is that they are safer and the people they care about are safer if they choose to stay in wales and to support the team from here. Mark drakeford. Scotlands First Minister has confirmed that the lifting of Covid Restrictions there will be delayed by three weeks to allow more time for people to be vaccinated. Nicola sturgeon said increasing Case Numbers were behind the delay. At the moment, The High number of new Covid Case being recorded is a significant consideration. To use the Race Analogy that many have used before, we must not allow the virus to get too far ahead of the vaccines. Therefore, as indicated last week, we intend to maintain the current restrictions applicable in each part of scotland for the next three weeks. She hoped the remaining legal restrictions would be removed in early august. Will social distancing remain in place under these basic mitigations in hospitality venues . Will there be ongoing limits on indoor social gatherings . And finally, will the mitigations after the 9th Of August conclude the wearing of masks in offices and in schools . If we go beyond level zero by the 9th Of August we hope, but we must assess the data that the legal requirement to physical distance will be removed indoors as well as outdoors. So therell be no legal requirement, if all goes according to plan, for physical distancing at all when we go beyond level zero. But we may still advise people if youre with somebody whos not fully vaccinated, if youre with someone vulnerable, if youre in a place where the ventilation is not particularly good it would make sense to continue to pay attention to a safe distance to people that are not within your close contact group. But that will be advised, not law and not regulation. I welcome what the government has said about the timetable around the vaccine. Can we get a commitment, if the supplies allow, we will ramp up that. Much faster if we can . Can we look to replicate whats happened in london, for example, where we have Walk In vaccination centres i for those that arent registered with a gp so we can get a spread of the vaccine as much as possible . Health wards are using drop in clinics where they think thats appropriate obviously that becomes more important and is being used in other places for younger people. But if you look at first doses right now, and all four Uk Nations are much of a muchness in terms of vaccination uptake, but we are slightly ahead of england and Northern Ireland in first dose vaccinations, which suggests were doing all the Things Everybody else is doing and getting through that population quickly. Nicola sturgeon. Youre watching Tuesday In Parliament with me, david cornock. The chancellor has told mps it is his Hope And Expectation that Lockdown Restrictions in england will be lifted on i9july. Last week, mps voted to extended the restrictions meaning pubs, clubs and theatres had to continue operating within capacity limits, and nightclubs remained closed. More than 50 conservative mps voted against the move. One of those rebels put this to the chancellor. Some employers in my constituency, with employees still on furlough, tell me theyre desperate to get those employees back to work. But it is the uncertainty over when restrictions will finally be lifted that are holding them back. Take the events supply chain, for example, where Customers Unwillingness to pay deposits is holding those firms back. So, will my right honourable friend agree with me that the way to get the economy moving to get those employees back to work is for restrictions to absolutely be lifted by i9july . My honourable friend is absolutely right. And my Hope And Expectation is we do lift those restrictions on 19july because, by that point, we will have done what we set out to do, to get extra jabs in more peoples arms to give us the extra level of protection we were seeking. But he is right, the only sustainable way to protect those jobs is to get the economy reopened so those people can return to work and provide for their families, and indeed move on to brighter opportunities. Mr sunak said current estimates put the number of workers still on furlough at The End of may at Two Million the lowest level since june of last year. Does my right honourable Friend Recall that at the start of the pandemic, many| commentators feared it would lead to unemployment. On and im president of scale . Can i therefore ask the chancellor if he has estimated the actual impact of his Furlough Scheme on protecting jobs . Well, my honourable friend makes an excellent point. The Furlough Scheme has supported over 11. 5 million jobs since the start of the pandemic and shes right to point out that, at that point, the forecast for unemployment showed to peak at around 12 . Now, those forecasts show Unemployment Peaking at half that level, which means Two Million fewer people losing theirjobs than previously feared. Independent experts have told the government 12 times that the failure to provide adequate financial support to People Self isolating has contributed to the spread of covid, endangering lives and livelihoods. 12 times. Now we know that the treasury instructed Government Officials to actively suppress information about the Furlough Scheme that could be used by employers to financially support People Self isolating. Can the chancellor now explain why this instruction was issued by the treasury . The government did no such thing. And, in fact, the guidance on usage of the Furlough Scheme was there in black and white im actually looking at it and plain for everybody to see at the start of that scheme as to how it should be used. But what i can say, mr speaker, is right at the beginning of this crisis, we improved the way that statutory sick pay works to deal with Self Isolation, it was one of the earliest steps we took. Then we introduced a Rebate Scheme for small and medium size businesses to claim back the costs of statutory sick pay for isolating employees from the government. And thirdly, we introduced a £500 Self Isolation payment, mr speaker. Rishi sunak. Northern irelands biggest party, the dup, has a new leader. Again. Sirjeffrey donaldson was the only candidate to replace edwin poots, who was ousted last week afterjust three weeks in thejob. Sirjeffrey� s expected to leave westminster to become First Minister. Back At Westminster, the northern Ireland Secretary had his hands full with the special Brexit Trading arrangements for Northern Ireland known as the northern Ireland Protocol. Edwin poots had said the government had promised that there will be a significant win on the protocol and hed Received Assurances from Brandon Lewis and that it could emerge in earlyjuly. This is what the northern Ireland Secretary told the commons. As i said at this Despatch Box last wednesday we will do what we need to do to make sure we deliver for the people of Northern Ireland and we take nothing of the table in that regard. But obviously we wait to hear from the eu and want to work this through with the eu. Labour said Northern Ireland had been overlooked too often and laid the blame firmly at the feet of the Prime Minister. He was repeatedly warned of the consequences for the fragile Peace Process of his brexit deal. And he chose to ignore these warnings. There is a direct line from his dishonesty over that deal to the instability we see in the institutions today. And it was those institutions which were under discussion, as mps debated a new bill to make changes to how the northern Ireland Assembly works. The measures are a response to the suspension of the executive between 2017 and 2020. All the northern Ireland Parties At Westminster said they would support the bill, but some reluctantly. If they wish to see devolution prosper and it requires more thanjust this bill, it requires them to show the same Respect And Devolution in Northern Ireland as it would show in scotland and wales, and i guarantee no Secretary Of State either for scotland or wales would dare interfere in the devolved settlements in those companies in the way the Secretary Of State and this government has done with devolution in Northern Ireland. The sdlp� S Leader reserved his scorn for the Dup And Sinn sinn fein. We have two parties in control in Northern Ireland. In charge for the last 14 or so years. Absolutely and totally obsessed with themselves, and their own self interest. Nowhere near enough effort put in when dealing with the problems in the crisis evolving and the collapsing Health Service and the Education System that is in real trouble. The Alliance Party returned to brexit, saying that most people recognised why the northern Ireland Protocol was there. They want to see a situation where the problems are resolved and that we and on a situationl where theres genuine political stability and indeed spit elite for businesses and terms of investment. What this means is not| scrapping the protocol, not taking us to the brink or over the break but fighting those practical solutions. The bill passed its first main legislative Hurdle And Itll now go on for detailed scrutiny. A former metropolitan Police Chief Lord Paddick Has said the culture inside the met enables corruption to thrive. He was reacting to last weeks report into how it investigated the murder of private investigator daniel morgan. No one has been brought to justice for the killing, which happened 3a years ago. An independent panel concluded that the met� s was Institutionally Corrupt in the way it concealed or denied failings. A charge firmly rejected by another former met officer. I apologise to the Morgan Family for the way an organisation i was part of for over 30 years has conducted itself. The only point i wish to make our at this report chimes exactly with my professional and personal experience. At this report needs to be taken seriously and that urgent action needs to be taken as a result. The metropolitan police puts its own reputation before openness, honesty and the Pursuit Ofjustice and those who are telling the truth are ostracised and forced out. The minister said a lot of work had been done to tackle Police Corruption. The establishment of a specific Criminal Offence of Police Corruption in 2015, and i recall because i brought the legislation through, it measures to ensure officers cannot resign or retire to evade accountability were brought in in 2017 and a Barge List to prevent dismissed officers from rejoining policing was brought in in 2017. A former met Police Detective disputed claims of corruption. By definition an institution consists of those people within it. I was one of those for 32 years, and let me state quite clearly that i was not corrupt, and neither with the Tens Of Thousands of Police Officers and Support Staff that i had the privilege of working with over those years. I do not accept and indeed neitherdto my former colleagues including the noble lord blair, the former metropolitan police commissioner, that theres any Evidence Whatsoever of systematic corruption in the metropolitan police. Now or in previous years. The report has failed, i say, miserably to substantiate this very general. Those who pursue criminals, terrorists, and protect this capital. The minister agreed that Police Officers were owed a debt of gratitude for keeping everyone safe. Now, its emerged that demand for help with Eating Disorders has risen by more than a fifth during the pandemic. The health minister, Nadine Dorries said children as young as five were affected. The health minister, Nadine Dorries said children as young as five were affected. But she also said young people had been incredibly resilient during lockdown and announced an extra £40 million for childrens mental Health Services in england. We have seen a 22 increase, 23 , i heard Yesterday Demand over the past 11 months in Eating Disorder Referrals and demand for services. And that is impacted throughout as you can imagine. So again the pandemic made it. I should actually start by saying that Eating Disorders were on the increase, we saw the uptick before the pandemic began. Its a very complex issue. It surrounds lots of things such as a body image, social media. But lockdown brought a particular pressure and particular strain on those young women who had been concealing, managing, living with Eating Disorders and it kind of came to a Crisis Point during lockdown. Can you just tell the committee how the mental Health Support teams will be helping with that focus on Eating Disorders . I have got some experience myself with, before the pandemic struck, with support for teens and talking to them about this very issue. Children as young as five disposing of the contents of lunchbox in the bin, and leave the wrappers in to tell teachers that they had been eating what was in the lunchbox but they had not. How they escalate that im not aware of but early intervention in the work that they do with those young people is really important. I will continue to hold. Industries feet to the fire because i think our younger the grip of the kind of Triple Lock where they have i Sky High expectations on them, people pumping notions of short term cuts to Health And Happiness whether its the weight or idealized lifestyle. And these pressures, Love Island or other social media. During this inquiry we have heard children and young people positive mental Health Services seeing increased Demand And Severity of needs. Could you just outline what the steps are currently to tackle that need . Young people have been incredibly resilient, and we have seen young people, you know, set on week one theyre fearful, apprehensive, worried, and their own resilience brought them through to the other side. Rather than labelling a generation as a generation experiencing and suffering from Mental Health issues, i think we really need to acknowledge that we have a very strong and resilient generation, but we should be incredibly proud of who are coming through the lockdown and some of the main problems we see when they have gone back into school and come out of lockdown is the readjustment. She said funding was not a barrier to help. So why were mental Health Support teams not being rolled out faster to English Schools . You have given us the new figure of 35 of children reach by 2023, but im not sure my calculations now with that figure but theres at least Four Million children there without access to support. Given the impact of the pandemic, should we not be really accelerating that to cover the entire country as soon as possible . The issue is people coming through and training, and actually its The Highlight of the pandemic, its the discussions around Mental Health, its about Mental Health becoming more attractive area for people to that is just now in the past year bringing people forward who want to work in Mental Health. The Prime Minister has promised to reform Social Care funding. A meeting to discuss it with the chancellor was in the diary. A lot of Community Provision is provided by local authorities funded through the Social Care system. But you know that yesterday a crucial meeting between. The health secretary, the chancellor, and l the Prime Minister to resolve the future of the Social Care i system was postponed. We dont know why. Should people worry that that meeting did not happen . No. As you know when you were Secretary Of State for health im sure you lost count for a number of meetings you had to postpone in your diary. For various reason suggested it was unavailable or didnt have the information and wanted to make a good judgement. I dont know the reason was but i know the absolute commitment by The End of this year is there to introduce Social Care reforms. It will happen. Nadine dorries. Thats it for Tuesday In Parliament. Thank you for watching. I do hope you canjoin me at the same time tomorrow for wednesday in parliament, including Prime Ministers questions. Until then, from me, david cornock, bye for now. Hello there. It certainly was a chilly start across eastern scotland on tuesday, but that is where we had the Lions Share of sunshine over 11; hours of it. And it was our Top Spot in terms of temperatures as well, 21. 4 celsius The High. Now, we have been drawing a curtain of cloud, though, across scotland over the last few hours. This Weather Front bringing in some showery outbreaks of rain, and it will bring a change of fortunes to start our day on wednesday. Yes, it will be a cloudier and slightly damper story, but it will also be a milder one. Double digits first thing in the morning. Clearer skies across england and wales. Thats where well start with the best of the sunshine through the day. Now, as the day progresses, perhaps clouding over into north wales and Northern England, as that Weather Front slowly meanders its way out of the scottish borders. We keep quite a lot of cloud and some bits and pieces of rain into the far north west, quite murky to coasts and hills as well. The best of the sunshine further south and east, and well see temperatures peaking at 21 or 22 degrees. Thats 72 fahrenheit. Moving through wednesday evening, well continue to see a little more cloud pushing out of the north of england, down into the midlands, but it should be a largely fine and dry end to the day across the South East. That Weather Front will continue to move its way slowly south and east. And at the same time, another Weather Front will introduce some heavier rain into the far north of scotland. So, as thursday goes, we can split the country to three. The best of the sunshine, east anglia, South East england. A weak Weather Front, a band of cloud slowly brightening up into Northern England later. And then for Northern Ireland and scotland, some of that rain still quite heavy for a time here. Top temperatures on thursday afternoon, again, 22 degrees, 72 fahrenheit. Now, as we move out of thursday into friday, those Weather Fronts continue to push their way steadily south and a little area of pressure forms. And circulating around that low on friday, there will be bands of showery rain. So, not a complete wash out. Bit of a messy story, really, to tell on friday. The best of any drier weather, but with a northerly breeze, will be in the far north of scotland. So here, not particularly warm. We should see temperatures peaking at 22 degrees, 72 fahrenheit. That low pressure will influence the story for the start of the weekend, still bringing the risk of some sharp showers. The best of the drier weather is likely to be further north. Take care. Welcome to bbc news. Our top stories a Special Report from texas where thousands of migrant children are being held in overcrowded camps with very limited medical care. All the evidence is that under the care of the us government, these children are being severely neglected and in some cases, put in danger. 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