Of the dangers of the Delta Variant, keeping his eye on the science. He says politics and pandemic simply dont mix. The ones that you dont want to do in the middle of a global pandemic is that in your own country is you dont want intense political Divisiveness. The is you dont want intense political Divisiveness. Is you dont want intense political Divisiveness. Is the virus. Smell the coffee. Another day, another report on the re storative powers of the magic beans. Why is a cup of coffee so good for us . Hello im Katty Kay in washington, Christian Fraser is in london. The us senate is taking up a voting Rights Bill this evening that democrats hope will strengthen protections at the ballot box. Its one of those procedural votes so unique to washington, its not a vote on the bill, but a vote on whether to even discuss the bill. And the result could speak volumes in terms of where we are in american politics. The democrats are not expected to get enough votes, with one of their own senators unlikely to back it in its current form. Senatorjoe manchin from West Virginia has been cutting an independent path in recent months. And hes suggested a compromise that would require voters to produce id at the ballot box. The current bill as written would waive that requirement. And you know what, manchin may be on to something. A poll this week suggests a massive 80 of americans are actually in favour of voters showing photo id. And an earlier poll shows that supports is spread across racial lines, with 74 of white people 69 of black people and 82 of other minorities in favour. So what will become of this bill . And will democrats hang together during this important week . With us for the first time on this programme, the Speaker Of The House Nancy Pelosi, who jOins Us now from Capitol Hill. Thank who jOins Us now from Capitol Hill. Thank who Oins Us now from Capitol Hill. You for Oinin My thank You Forjoining the program. My pleasure good to be with you. So my pleasure good to be with you. Sc if my pleasure good to be with you. S if the my pleasure good to be with you. If the senate my pleasure good to be with you. Sr if the senate doesnt pass the voting Rights Bill that you sent them, do you think Democracy In America is in peril . America is in peril . Yes, i do. I thinkthat america is in peril . Yes, i do. I think that our america is in peril . Yes, i do. I think that our democratic america is in peril . Yes, i do. I. Think that our democratic sanctity of the think that our democratic sanctity of the vote think that our democratic sanctity of the vote is very much in peril. But im of the vote is very much in peril. But im optimistic that we will prevait but im optimistic that we will prevail. Undera but im optimistic that we will prevail. Under a claes thats under Mansion prevail. Under a claes thats under Mansion Mansion'>Todays Senator Mansion said he Mansion Mansion'>Todays Senator Mansion said he would Mansion Mansion'>Todays Senator Mansion said he would today support the motion said he would today support the motioh to said he would today support the motion to proceed. That will be enough motion to proceed. That will be enough and republicans will never be for reforming the vote but nonetheless, if we have our democrats, we have a path. I nonetheless, if we have our democrats, we have a path. I want to ask ou democrats, we have a path. I want to ask you about democrats, we have a path. I want to ask you about another democrats, we have a path. I want to ask you about another bill democrats, we have a path. I want to ask you about another bill that democrats, we have a path. I want to ask you about another bill that is ask you about another bill that is going through about which there is discussion in the senate that says something about the state of womens rights. Something you and i have talked often about in the Past And Thatis talked often about in the past and that is the Infrastructure Bill. Elizabeth warren censured Elizabeth Warren said that we are lucky to have an Infrastructure Package that when the train leaves the Station Childcare is left on the platform. That may not bode very well for the Infrastructure Bill but it says something about womens rights in the country, doesnt it madame speaker that childcare is being seen or talked about is an important part of infrastructure . Of infrastructure . Absolutely, positively of infrastructure . Absolutely, positively if of infrastructure . Absolutely, positively. If were of infrastructure . Absolutely, positively. If were going of infrastructure . Absolutely, positively. If were going to i of infrastructure . Absolutely, i positively. If were going to build back better we have to build back better back better we have to build back better with women. In the Childcare Issue better with women. In the Childcare Issue is better with women. In the Childcare Issue is the better with women. In the Childcare Issue is the most shall we say, liberating issue is the most shall we say, liberating threshold for us To Cross liberating threshold for us To Cross its liberating threshold for us To Cross. Its for men to do. It her Dads cross. Its for men to do. It her Dads as cross. Its for men to do. It her Dads as well. But largely for women. And so Dads as well. But largely for women. And so when we are talking about the Infrastructure Bill we do think that there Infrastructure Bill we do think that there is Infrastructure Bill we do think that there is some Human Infrastructure issues there is some Human Infrastructure issues like there is some Human Infrastructure issues like childcare, like Family Medicai issues like childcare, like family medical leave, like Child Tax Credit and the medical leave, like Child Tax Credit and the rest that enables so many more and the rest that enables so many more people to participate in the economic more people to participate in the economic prosperity of our country. Its economic prosperity of our country. Its very economic prosperity of our country. Its very exciting in President Bideh its very exciting in President Bideh is its very exciting in President Biden is very much on board with all of that biden is very much on board with all of that I Biden is very much on board with all of that. ,. , ~ of that. I wonder whether you think that more senators of that. I wonder whether you think that more senators would of that. I wonder whether you think that more senators would feel of that. I wonder whether you think that more senators would feel the l that more senators would feel the same Way if there were more women up on Capitol Hill that we knew it came into Office in 1987 there were only 25 women now in 2021 there are a total of a total of 143 women up on capital hill. Its changed but not enough, has a . Ihla capital hill. Its changed but not enough, has a . Capital hill. Its changed but not enough, has a . Capital hill. Its changed but not enou~h, has a . ,. , enough, has a . No but again we made a Decision On enough, has a . No but again we made a Decision On the enough, has a . No but again we made a Decision On the democratic enough, has a . No but again we made a Decision On the democratic side a Decision On the democratic side that we a Decision On the democratic side that we would increase our numbers and we that we would increase our numbers and we have. We went from 12 to 90 something and we have. We went from 12 to 90 something in the house and that doesnt something in the house and that doesnt even count the senate. But it is a doesnt even count the senate. But it is a decision. I do think that the women it is a decision. I do think that the women of america will speak up, that as the women of america will speak up, that as we the women of america will speak up, that as we go forward we will be thinking that as we go forward we will be thinking in that as we go forward we will be thinking in a new Way about how we Io Thinking in a new Way about how we go forward thinking in a new Way about how we go forward on Building Infrastructure in our country. I have infrastructure in our country. I have no infrastructure in our country. I have No Doubt that we will prevail. Have have No Doubt that we will prevail. Have you have No Doubt that we will prevail. Have you seen a change in the Way-congress'>Way Congress does business because there are more women and more minorities up are more women and more minorities up on Capitol Hill since you been there . ~ , up on Capitol Hill since you been there . ~ ,. , � , up on Capitol Hill since you been there . , there . Absolutely. Thats why we made the decision there . Absolutely. Thats why we made the decision to there . Absolutely. Thats why we made the decision to do there . Absolutely. Thats why we made the decision to do so, there . Absolutely. Thats why we made the decision to do so, to i there . Absolutely. Thats why we i made the decision to do so, to have more made the decision to do so, to have more women. Its not that i alWays say this, more women. Its not that i alWays say this, as more women. Its not that i alWays say this, as a more women. Its not that i alWays say this, as a mother of four girls and four say this, as a mother of four girls and four daughters and once on its not that and four daughters and once on its not that one and four daughters and once on its not that one are better than the other not that one are better than the other its not that one are better than the other its the beauty is in the mix. You must other its the beauty is in the mix. You must have more than one represented at The Table. There is nothing represented at The Table. There is nothing more wholesome for the political nothing more wholesome for the political or the governmental process, political or the governmental process, nothing more wholesome than the increased participation of women and girls the increased participation of women and girls i the increased participation of women and girls. I encourage women and irls and girls. I encourage women and girls to and girls. I encourage women and girls to have the confidence, have the courage to be part of the solutions the courage to be part of the solutions of the future. | the courage to be part of the solutions of the future. I remember once speaking solutions of the future. I remember once speaking to solutions of the future. I remember once speaking to a solutions of the future. I remember once speaking to a Colleague Solutions of the future. I remember once speaking to a colleague of once speaking to a colleague of yours a few years ago said to me, the thing is man will look in a mirror and they will see a senator and a woman would never be so presumptuous. I wonder what you say to Young Women In America to persuade them, to persuade more of them to run for Office. I sat; persuade them, to persuade more of them to run for Office. Them to run for Office. I say to them to run for Office. I say to them know them to run for Office. I say to them know your them to run for Office. I say to them know your power. Them to run for Office. I say to them know your power. Note l them to run for Office. I say to i them know your power. Note the specialness that you bring, there is Nobody Specialness that you bring, there is nobody like you, you are unique. And the Fact Nobody like you, you are unique. And the fact that nobody like you, you are unique. And the fact that you know why you might want to the fact that you know why you might want to participate in politics, what want to participate in politics, what you want to participate in politics, what you care about, how you would et what you care about, how you would get something done, that is a big. Ift get something done, that is a big gift to get something done, that is a big gift to our get something done, that is a big gift to our country. And it is very needed gift to our country. And it is very needed I Gift to our country. And it is very needed. Ijust want them to have the confidence, needed. Ijust want them to have the confidence, confidence is a very important confidence, confidence is a very important word for young women, for women important word for young women, for women in important word for young women, for women in general that i want them to have the women in general that i want them to have the confidence that they are needed, have the confidence that they are needed, that they are unique and the future needed, that they are unique and the future belongs to them and they have to help future belongs to them and they have to help shape it. Again, no offence to help shape it. Again, no offence to men to help shape it. Again, no offence to Men Trut to help shape it. Again, no offence to men but we just again have to make to men but we just again have to make up to men but we just again have to make up for a lot of lost time when women make up for a lot of lost time when women had make up for a lot of lost time when women had not been in the mix. We want women had not been in the mix. We want him women had not been in the mix. We want him to women had not been in the mix. We want him to not only have a seat at The Table want him to not only have a seat at The Table but a seat at the head of The Table but a seat at the head of The Table The Table but a seat at the head of The Table. A,. , The Table but a seat at the head of The Table. A,. , q. , The Table but a seat at the head of The Table. , q � , The Table. Okay. Nancy pelosi, lets hoe The Table. Okay. Nancy pelosi, lets Ho E that The Table. Okay. Nancy pelosi, lets hope that infrastructure The Table. Okay. Nancy pelosi, lets hope that Infrastructure Bill The Table. Okay. Nancy pelosi, lets hope that Infrastructure Bill does i hope that Infrastructure Bill does include a Childcare Interest two bills all the women who lost their jobsit bills all the women who lost their jobs it is critically important. I dont see how women are going to get back to work in the numbers that we needin back to work in the numbers that we need in the country unless there is a Childcare Component of that Womens Employment has just been devastated during this pandemic. Taste devastated during this pandemic. We will have a Childcare Component and it is one will have a Childcare Component and it is one of will have a Childcare Component and it is one of the most transformative things it is one of the most transformative things we it is one of the most transformative things we can do in our country for our society, things we can do in our country for our society, for our economy because we do our society, for our economy because we do believe that women, when women succeed we do believe that women, when women succeed america succeeds. Nancyr succeed america succeeds. Nancy pelosi, speaker succeed america succeeds. Nancy pelosi, speaker of succeed america succeeds. Nancy pelosi, speaker of the succeed america succeeds. Nancy pelosi, Speaker Of The House. Succeed america succeeds. Nancy i pelosi, Speaker Of The House. Thank ou so pelosi, Speaker Of The House. Thank you so much pelosi, Speaker Of The House. Thank you so much for pelosi, Speaker Of The House. Thank you so much forjoining pelosi, Speaker Of The House. Thank you so much forjoining the pelosi, Speaker Of The House. Thank you so much forjoining the program. Thank you so much forjoining the program. Thank you. You so much forjoining the program. Thank you, my pleasure thank you for the opportunity. Thank you, my pleasure thank you for the opportunity the opportunity. Good to talk about confidence for the opportunity. Good to talk about confidence for women. The opportunity. Good to talk about confidence for women. I the opportunity. Good to talk about confidence for women. I know confidence for women. I know somebody writes about that. Not something she lacks, i think. Im glad that madame speaker also spoke about that as well. I think if you can change culture as much a part of the for mums as well. find you can change culture as much a part of the for mums as well. And i think this Childcare Part of the for mums as well. And i think this Childcare Component think this Childcare Component actually is very much about Dads as well. I think a lot of dad to left work during the pandemic, start working at home and perhaps his head and spent as much time with the children suddenly spend an awful lot of time with the children will realise what it took and realise how much important childcare was. When you look at the Numbers Total of the House Of Representatives and senate, 635, its a lot better than when Nancy Pelosi joined in 1987 when their only 25 women. It still only 143. There is still a long Way to go. 143. There is still a long Way to i o,. ,. ,. , 143. There is still a long Way to 0. , 143. There is still a long Way to go. Yeah, and largely on one side so republicans go. Yeah, and largely on one side so republicans have go. Yeah, and largely on one side so republicans have to go. Yeah, and largely on one side so republicans have to do go. Yeah, and largely on one side so republicans have to do a go. Yeah, and largely on one side so republicans have to do a lot go. Yeah, and largely on one side so republicans have to do a lot better l republicans have to do a lot better on that score. Its very positive and its very positive here as well. We have more women in the house of common but not enough. Still some Way to go. I wanted to quickly talk about politics. I sense that this boat on Voting Rights we know its not good through the senate, there will be important questions about whether democrats hang together. And if they dont shes going to have a problem on her left, isnt she among the progressive members of her, caucus . The progressive members of her, caucus . ,. , g. , the progressive members of her, caucus . ,. ,. , caucus . She raised Joe Machin and said that Shes Caucus . She raised Joe Machin and said that shes glad caucus . She raised Joe Machin and said that shes glad that caucus . She raised Joe Machin and said that shes glad that machin i caucus . She raised Joe Machin and said that shes glad that machin is | said that shes glad that machin is sticking with the caucus on this very procedural vote that is happening this evening. And there are two things happening both on infrastructure which we talked about infrastructure which we talked about in that interview but also on the Voting Rights there is some sense of movement between a group of republicans and democrats on both of those bills which could mean the optimistic scenario that im hearing is that we do have moving on infrastructure and on Voting Rights within the next few weeks. Because youve got a group of moderates for both start to feel they want to get something done. What they can have to do is wrestle with their progressive in the house, but progressives much more than they democrats are. If they can get action from the White House that speaks volumes because then people believe they are getting something out of government. It looks like government is competent again and perhaps that satisfies people at both extremes. You perhaps that satisfies people at both extremes. Perhaps that satisfies people at both extremes. ,. ,. Both extremes. You can do so much more when both extremes. You can do so much more when you both extremes. You can do so much more when you are both extremes. You can do so much more when you are united. We talk a lot about a divided america on this programme. Our next guest has mapped out that rupture in us society. In his new Book Author George packer splits the 330 Million people of this country into four, somewhat incompatible groups, each with their own unique hallmarks and identities. The first of those groups he calls free america. Traditionally the most politically powerful of the four. They are conservative, free enterprise, Libetarians Epitomised by ronald reagan. The second is Smart America the us as embodied by the clintons, where values of meritocracy, mix with high levels of education and a cosmopolitan outlook. Next up Real America the group that stands with donald trump, marked by right wing populism, a distrust of experts and global elites. And then there Isjust America mainly made up of young people who think the system is broken. They dont believe meritocracy actually works, they highlight systemic racism in society and they are working to effect change. The book is last best Hope America in crisis and renewal, and George Packer is here. Its quite a sobering read. One country for narrative each sees the other as the enemy, compromises difficult. Its bleak. Is there a happy ending . Difficult. Its bleak. Is there a happy ending . Difficult. Its bleak. Is there a Ham Endin . ,. , happy ending . Toward The End of the book i talk about happy ending . Toward The End of the book i talk about a happy ending . Toward The End of the book i talk about a different book i talk about a different narrative that i call equal america. Ithink narrative that i call equal america. I think its narrative that i call equal america. I think its more encompassing and includes i think its more encompassing and includes more of us and draws on american includes more of us and draws on American History. It is said that the most American History. It is said that the most striking thing about americans compared to europeans is the passion americans compared to europeans is the passion for equality, the desire to he the passion for equality, the desire to he as the passion for equality, the desire to be as good as everyone else. I think to be as good as everyone else. I think that to be as good as everyone else. I think that passion burns all the Way through think that passion burns all the Way through American History when its stifled through American History when its stifled we through American History when its stifled we get a lot of social conflict stifled we get a lot of social conflict. And today we have all kinds conflict. And today we have all kinds of conflict. And today we have all kinds of inequalities, racial, economic. Kinds of inequalities, racial, economic, geographic, class, income, education economic, geographic, class, income, education and those inequalities i think education and those inequalities i think Fuel Education and those inequalities i think fuel the competing narratives that ive think fuel the competing narratives that ive described in the book. And iive that ive described in the book. And give them that ive described in the book. And give them a that ive described in the book. And give them a sense of status competition. Like It Something for me and competition. Like It Something for me and nothing for you, theres winners me and nothing for you, theres winners and losers. If we can get back winners and losers. If we can get back to winners and losers. If we can get back to or winners and losers. If we can get back to or it winners and losers. If we can get back to or it may be billed for the first time back to or it may be billed for the first time eight narrative that says what first time eight narrative that says what we first time eight narrative that says what we need is for all americans are of what we need is for all americans are of equal opportunity, equal status. Are of equal opportunity, equal status, equal rights for they are to be status, equal rights for they are to he no status, equal rights for they are to he no world status, equal rights for they are to be no world that is closed off to any of be no world that is closed off to any of us be no world that is closed off to any of us. Then i think the temperature will go down. We wont add the temperature will go down. We wont add the red, Blue Division but the victory add the red, Blue Division but the victory all add the red, Blue Division but the victory all in the x essential States Victory all in the x essential states of victory all in the x essential states of every election might subside states of every election might subside a bit as americans begin to feel a subside a bit as americans begin to feel a sense of shared citizenship which feel a sense of shared citizenship which in feel a sense of shared citizenship which in this country is really the key to which in this country is really the key to Self Government. Which in this country is really the key to selfgovernment. Key to selfgovernment. Smart America L Key to selfgovernment. Smart america i presume key to selfgovernment. Smart america i presume is key to selfgovernment. Smart america i presume is growing. | key to selfgovernment. Smart i america i presume is growing. Its affluent, it sometimes intellectual, aspiring, it suburban america that have largely come out for the democrats in recent times. But i saw an interview you gave in which you describe Smart America as the new aristocracy. That troubled me. Because i think through history people have looked at the aristocracy with suspicion. I wonder whether that is why so many people are suspicious now of experts. Yes. Are suspicious now of experts. Yes, exerts are suspicious now of experts. Yes, experts are are suspicious now of experts. Yes, experts are essential, are suspicious now of experts. Yes, experts are essential, we are suspicious now of experts. Yes, experts are essential, we need to listen experts are essential, we need to listen to experts are essential, we need to listen to them. During the pandemic we really listen to them. During the pandemic we really need to listen to them. But they we really need to listen to them. But they cant govern us. In a democracy but they cant govern us. In a democracy the people have to govern. And the democracy the people have to govern. And the sense that the experts are ruling and the sense that the experts are ruling us and the sense that the experts are ruling us and that a credentialed class ruling us and that a credentialed class of ruling us and that a credentialed class of americans whove gone to the right class of americans whove gone to the right schools, had the right degrees. The right schools, had the right degrees, are in the right professions and ill no one another and so professions and ill no one another and so to professions and ill no one another and so to speak the same language, this is and so to speak the same language, this is a and so to speak the same language, this is a State Of Affairs that alienated a lot of other people and giving alienated a lot of other people and giving them the feeling of not counting. 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And were part of Smart America and that sense of in some Smart America and that sense of in some Way Smart America and that sense of in some Way being superior to the rest of america some Way being superior to the rest of america which is may be forgotten about of america which is may be forgotten about. Journalists have lost the vocation about. Journalists have lost the vocation of going out and actually listening vocation of going out and actually listening to people who are not like them listening to people who are not like them and listening to people who are not like them and instead we spend a lot of our time them and instead we spend a lot of our time talking to another. I think that is our time talking to another. I think that is part our time talking to another. I think that is part of where Self Government has begun to break down selfgovernment has begun to break down. ,. Selfgovernment has begun to break down. , , down. The hope in this administration down. The hope in this administration is down. The hope in this administration is that i down. The hope in this| administration is that if down. The hope in this administration is that if you can give people competent government the things christian and i were just talking about, that you can give them Infrastructure Bills that improve their bridges and improve their commute to work at mac had a thing you can give them a Vaccine Role in programme in the coronavirus or a stimulus package that puts money into the pockets then will overcome some of these divisions amongst themselves and they will have a sense of common purpose or at least some sense of trust in government. I wonder if there is any evidence that that is true or whether the emotions that fuel these cultural divides override economic benefits from government. I cultural divides override economic benefits from government. Benefits from government. I dont think we have benefits from government. I dont think we have any benefits from government. I dont think we have any Way benefits from government. I dont think we have any Way of benefits from government. I dont think we have any Way of knowing | benefits from government. I dont. Think we have any Way of knowing yet because think we have any Way of knowing yet because government has not shown itself to because government has not shown itself to be because government has not shown itself to be capable of really improving peoples material conditions on a broad scale for a very conditions on a broad scale for a very long conditions on a broad scale for a very long time. Really most of my adult very long time. Really most of my adult life very long time. Really most of my adult Life Government has either been adult Life Government has either been dysfunctional or has been at war with been dysfunctional or has been at war with itself or has sort of taken itself war with itself or has sort of taken itself out war with itself or has sort of taken itself out of the Game Byjust investing in public goods. I see the Biden Investing in public goods. I see the biden administration as the first step in biden administration as the first step in a biden administration as the first step in a long time toward equal america. Step in a long time toward equal america, towards using government to improve america, towards using government to improve material conditions for large improve material conditions for large numbers of people. My bet is that that large numbers of people. My bet is that that will begin to lower the temperature of the culture wars. We wont temperature of the culture wars. We wont be temperature of the culture wars. We wont be talking quite so much about Dr Seuss Wont be talking quite so much about Dr Seuss and Mr Potato Head if there is not Dr Seuss and Mr Potato Head if there is not a Dr Seuss and Mr Potato Head if there is not a sense of struggle for a limited is not a sense of struggle for a limited party and instead the pie is growing limited party and instead the pie is growing. But government has to play that crucial growing. But government has to play that crucial role which it hasnt played that crucial role which it hasnt played almost sense Lyndon Johnson and as played almost sense Lyndon Johnson and as biden say going back to franklin and as biden say going back to Franklin Road of two roosevelt. That is the Franklin Road of two roosevelt. That is the equal america that i think we need is the equal america that i think we Need Order is the equal america that i think we Need Order to build for the first time Need Order to build for the first time. ~ Need Order to build for the first time. ,. ,. , time. Franklin roosevelt. The irou time. Franklin roosevelt. The now of time. Franklin roosevelt. The group of course time. Franklin roosevelt. The group of course that time. Franklin roosevelt. The group of course that has time. Franklin roosevelt. The group of course that has the time. Franklin roosevelt. The L Group of course that has the future in it cites isjust group of course that has the future in it cites is just america. Group of course that has the future in it cites Isjust America. And those are Young Americans gen x and genevieve. You describe them at people who are antiestablishment who are interested in equality for all in equal access to power for all people. Do theyjust become like Baby Boomers as they grow older and more focused on me rather than we . I more focused on me rather than we . I do hear that millenniums are already beginning do hear that millenniums are already beginning to be distressed by the fact that beginning to be distressed by the fact thatjen Z Beginning to be distressed by the fact that Jen Z regards and is kind of the fact that Jen Z regards and is kind of the older generation. It happens to all of the older generation. It happens to all of of the older generation. It happens to All Of Us of the older generation. It happens to All Of Us. It sort of inevitable. Ithink to All Of Us. It sort of inevitable. I think millennialist, Jen Z, to All Of Us. It sort of inevitable. I think millennialist, jen 2, just america i think millennialist, jen 2, just america is i think millennialist, jen 2, just america is i call it have forced on us a america is i call it have forced on us a Recognition Gen 2. A recognition us a Recognition Gen 2. A recognition of history of Inequality And Injustice that we would rather not look and injustice that we would rather not look too hard at. That is the great not look too hard at. That is the great achievement in this generation. Its done so in a Way that imposes a dogma, It Kind of orthodoxy that imposes a dogma, It Kind of orthodoxy that separates us irrevocably into groups that really are all irrevocably into groups that really are all in irrevocably into groups that really are all in some relation of power to one another are all in some relation of power to one another and which are monolithic and Thinkest One Another and which are monolithic and thinkest groups. I think this cuts against the Way most of us live and the cuts against the Way most of us live and the Way cuts against the Way most of us live and the Way most americans feel their and the Way most americans feel their life. And the Way most americans feel their life, we are increasingly fluid their life, we are increasingly fluid and their life, we are increasingly fluid and multiracial and intermarrying society. And isjust this generation can begin to see the actual this generation can begin to see the actual lives this generation can begin to see the actual lives and the experiences of the vast actual lives and the experiences of the vast majority of americans who dont the vast majority of americans who dont think the vast majority of americans who dont think that this country is permanently corrupted by systemic racism permanently corrupted by systemic racism but permanently corrupted by systemic racism but has other more hopeful Strains Racism but has other more hopeful strains in racism but has other more hopeful strains in it. Racism but has other more hopeful strains in it, i dont think they are going strains in it, i dont think they are going to be able to have political are going to be able to have political success. I think theyre going political success. I think theyre going to political success. I think theyre going to be at it odds with the majority going to be at it odds with the majority of their fellow americans. Perhaps majority of their fellow americans. Perhaps a majority of their fellow americans. Perhaps a little bit more room for nuanceis perhaps a little bit more room for nuance is needed. Thank you very much for joining forjoining us. For those watching on bbc World News well be right back. Nicola sturgeon has confirmed that the easing of Coronavirus Restriction levels in scotland will be postponed untiljuly 19. The First Minister also revealed that the aim is to lift all major remaining legal restrictions on august 9th. She said that the key to unlocking was the vaccination of older adults i mentioned daily we expected to complete second doses for all Over 40s by the 26th ofjuly. We know the protective effect of the second dose tasted bit of time to build up. But within two weeks by 9th Of August we would expect the vast majority of Over 40s you have a significant level of protection. Of course we need to remember that vaccination doesnt provide 100 protection and it wont be until later in september that all adults will have the protection of full vaccination. However, out of Assessment And Balance and assuming that we meet the necessary conditions on Vaccination And Harm reduction is that it would be possible and proportionate to lift and major remaining legal restrictions on the 9th Of August. For many People Coffee is the elixor of life. There are certain members of my family i wont go anyWay near in a morning until they have properly dosed up. And it would seem it is doing them a lot of good. Not only in the restoring force of the caffeine, but new research says all those cups of Coffee Are helping our livers too. Scientists have discovered that people who drink 3 4 cups of Coffee A day are 21 less likely to develop chronic Liver Disease than non coffee drinkers and as for deaths from Liver Disease coffee drinking, reduced mortality by almost 50 . So whats so special about a cup of coffee . Lets speak to one of the authors behind the study professorjonathan fallowfield, a Liver Specialist at Edinburgh University medical school can we start with the basic facts, what sort of coffee we talked about . The sort of basket they type of coffee or are we talking about the beings that you grind machine . Goad beings that you grind machine . Good evenini , beings that you grind machine . Good evening. Thanks beings that you grind machine . Good evening, thanks for beings that you grind machine . Good evening, thanks for having me. A good evening, thanks for having me. 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Well that i has puzzled many people for a long time has puzzled many people for a long time. There are thousands of different time. There are thousands of different chemicals in coffee. Lots of them different chemicals in coffee. Lots of them are antioxidants, some are anti inflammatory, some probably have effects on cancer cells. We dont have effects on cancer cells. We dont really know, we dont expect it to be dont really know, we dont expect it to be one dont really know, we dont expect it to be one think its probably a combination of lots of different chemicals in Coffee All leptin together. It certainly not just caffeine together. It certainly not just caffeine is the study has shown. We often have medical trials that show a result and one assumes that there is a cause, can we prove that its the fact that these people are Drinking Coffee that is making their livers healthier or is it some other factor in their life are in their genetics . Genetics . 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As effective as we think it might be as as effective as we think it might be as you as effective as we think it might be. As you say there are other genetic be. As you say there are other genetic analyses that we can do to try and genetic analyses that we can do to try and get genetic analyses that we can do to try and get the same information. No, try and get the same information. No. This try and get the same information. No, this doesnt prove beyond doubt that coffee no, this doesnt prove beyond doubt that coffee is effective but the weight that coffee is effective but the weight of evidence now from all these weight of evidence now from all these observational studies is very, very strong these observational studies is very, very strong very strong. Okay. Thank you very much for joining forjoining us. It must be good then. If forjoining us. It must be good then if You Forjoining us. It must be good then. If you have forjoining us. It must be good then. 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Braemar, 2 to begin the day and reaching a high into the high teens in the sunshine. But this Weather Front has brought more cloud in towards Northwest Scotland and parts of Northern Ireland, and it will make, actually, for a much milder night on the Way-tonight'>Way Tonight here as the cloud continues to spread east, and with it, some Patchy Rain. Its england and wales that will have the clearest skies as we go on through the night, and theres still some patchy cloud across particularly parts of Southeast England. But where its clear, this is where our temperatures will drop lower than this in the countryside down to three or four degrees in some spots, but a much milder start to the day in scotland and northern Ireland Tomorrow morning. But then again, itll be cloudy, itll be damp, therell be some Patchy Rain around and some of that just feeding slowly towards northwest england, western counties of wales as the day goes on. It leaves southeast wales, much of southern, central and Eastern England, and indeed, parts of Eastern Scotland with some sunny spells, and temperatures here into the high teens and low 20s. Itll feel much warmer in Southeast England compared with whats happened here so far this week. Into the evening, and still some Patchy Rain across particularly western areas. No hurry to move further south and east as we go on into thursday. This Weather Front moving into High Pressure is weakening and, if anything, just really stalling. Some more substantial Weather Fronts arriving in scotland, some heavier rain. Lots of zones of weather on thursday. Some sunshine towards the far southeast of england. Elsewhere in england and through wales, some cloud and Patchy Rain, but brightening up in much of wales in Northern England on through the day. Some heavier bursts of Rain Reaching in towards Northern Ireland and scotland. Again, temperatures into the high teens and a few spots into the low 20s. If you get to see some sunshine, Itll Feel pleasantly warm. Icy picture on friday, low pressure, bands of rain or showers spiralling around. Not wet everywhere there will be some sunny spells around. A lot of this is cleared through scotland at this stage, although its turned a bit cooler. Broken cloud and sunny spells on the Way here. This area of low pressure to the south looks like its lingering in parts of england and wales over the weekend, and thatll be the source of some showers here. Whereas well see plenty of dry Weather Wherejune has been very dry so far this month, across Northern Ireland and indeed, much of scotland. Temperatures just edging up a little bit into next week. Youre watching Bbc News with me Katty Kay in washington, Christian Fraser is in london. Our top stories. The us senate will vote in the next hour or so, on whether to move forward on a voting Rights Bill. The chances of the Bills Passage are slim. Earlier, house speaker Nancy Pelosi told us whats at stake. Our democratic sanctity of the vote is very our democratic sanctity of the vote is very much in peril. I am optimistic is very much in peril. I am optimistic that we will prevail. Dr Anthony Fauci has warned of a growing threat from the Delta Variant. The president s top adviser speaks to us about that, and the dangers of a divided political system. Also in the programme. New yorkers have been voting for their next mayor, in a primary watched around the world. Well look at the candidates vying for one of the most importantjobs in the nation. And, this Eel Eating A Squid is pretty interesting. But its the headlines about the eel that have the internet hungry for more. As the song goes, its a moray the number of people dying every day in the United States with coronavirus is the lowest its been since march 2020. This weekend, the Death Rate over the seven Day Rolling Average dipped below 300 thats the smallest daily figure since the start the pandemic. The total number of us deaths now stands at over 600,000. The biggest factor Driving Covid 19 fatalities downwards has been the Uss Vaccination Programme 65 of adults have had one dose. 56 are fully vaccinated. But the number of new doses being administered is slowing. Earlier today, the white House Coronavirus Coordinatorjeff zients said Young Americans are still too hesitant to get the jab, the countrys best tool for preventing the spread of the new Delta Variant. Where the country has more work to do is particularly with 18 26 year olds. The reality is many younger americans have felt like covid 19 is not something that impacts them, and theyve been less eager to get the shot. However, with the Delta Variant now spreading across the country and infecting younger people worldwide, its more important than ever that they get vaccinated. We spoke to dr Anthony Fauci, the director of the us National Institute Of Allergy And Infectious Diseases and chief medical adviser to the president. Dr fauci, everyone in the uk is obsessed with and knows the numbers of the so called Delta Variant of the coronavirus. I look around here in washington people arent wearing masks any more, the country is almost fully open. It feels like america has put the coronavirus in its rear view mirror. Are they acting too soon . Well, katty, im not so sure thats the case. If you look at people who are vaccinated and, for example, in washington, dc, over 70 of the Adult Population have received at least one dose of the vaccine we do take the Delta Variant very seriously given the kinetics and dynamics of whats happened in the uk, where its gone from a few percent to well over 90 , particularly among young people. Our concern is what has happened in the uk, that youre having a doubling time of about two weeks were now up to 20. 6 of our isolates being delta. The good news is that the vaccines that we use here in the United States, particularly the mrna vaccines, do really quite well against the Delta Variant. But we have pockets in this country where the Vaccination Rate is really, in my mind, unsatisfactory, really quite low. And weve really got to put a Big Push On as we go over the next few weeks to a month to get those people vaccinated. Because the Delta Variant is spreading. Yes, if you put that in perspective, 36 of americans adult americans, people who are eligible have not had a single jab. There are 100 counties in the country where only 20 of people have been vaccinated and those are the people that are adamant they dont want to get the vaccine, the vaccine is available everywhere so those are the people that dont want to get it. Arent they at Risk Of causing a third surge in the country because of delta . Katty, youre absolutely correct. Theyre putting us at Risk Of a surge but it will not be a nationwide search. Surge. As you well know, we have a very large country, we have 50 states and a lot of differences among the states with regard to so many features of demography, geography, culture, etc. So we wont going to see if, in fact, we get into trouble, which im concerned that we will amongst those who are unvaccinated. Were not going to see that rather large country wide surge which we sawjust a few months ago, several months ago in the late fall and early winter. What we will likely see would be isolated regionally based surges, particularly among those states that are very, very low on their vaccination percentage, as you had mentioned. Dr fauci, youre being attacked on the right its very political, covid, in the United States. I think Tucker Carlson called you the other day lord fauci, Patron Saint of wuhan. And hes going after you because he thinks that you dismissed too early the hypothesis that this leaked from a lab. Where do you stand on that today . Well, i stand exactly the Way i stand before, and im in the same lane as the overwhelming majority of virologists and Evolutionary Biologists who understand the situation who feel it is much more likely that this is a natural occurrence from an animal to human, similar to sars i, ebola, influenza, et cetera. But we all keep an open mind that, until you nail down completely that connection, you have to keep an open mind that this mightve been a lab leak. But most of the scientists, the overwhelming majority feel that the likelihood is that its a natural occurrence. Were reading a lot about it, and i want to put one of the reports to you. Presumably you knew there was a study done by the university of North Carolina in 2015, and they worked with data that was sent by the wuhan institute of virology, and they built a new coronavirus from an existing one different kind of strain to The One circulating now, but nonetheless, they developed one. The chinese didnt take part in that research, but its perfectly possible that they copied the research from the university of North Carolina. Can we dismiss that out of hand . Well, what North Carolina did was they did chimeric research and created a mouse adapted model. And christian, i think thats where the confusion gets when you conflate things. If youre trying to find out if it was lab adapted, you look at what the coronavirus is, what the Sars Cov 2 is. And you look at the sequences of it and you try to see an evolutionary movement towards that in the environment, or something in the lab thats closely similar to that. What was made in the laboratory in North Carolina was not anything that anybody would say was close enough to have been an evolution from that virus that was worked with in the North Carolina to Sars Cov 2. But if what youre trying to say is, if you can manipulate a virus, could they have done this in a surreptitious Way without anybody knowing it . There is alWays that possibility since you never know everything thats going on. But again, getting back to what i said before when you look at the circumstances as well as the molecular makeup of the virus, Notjust Me whos been attacked by the far right but scientists who, in good faith, make statements whom none of the far right know anything about, so they dont Attack Them they feel the same Way i do, that its more likely its a natural occurrence. But lets keep an open mind just in case until we do find out the definitive evidence of where it came from. Doctor fauci, having gone through the last year and a half, is there one thing that we have learned and digested as a country and a Global Community that would make you confident that, were this to happen again in 5 10 years, we can prevent the number of deaths that have happened this time around and the amount of economic pain that happened this time around . Have we learned something . Well, yes, weve learned something in a positive Way-and-weve'>Way And Weve learned something in a Way thats instructive and sobering. In the positive Way, the investment that weve made in Biomedical Research that allowed us to so rapidly, in an unprecedented Way, come up with a highly, highly effective vaccine thats safe and now already saving millions of lives. So, to keep up the investment in basic and clinical research. The sobering issue is that weve got to do better as a Global Community theres a thing called the global Health Security Network and agenda where there needs to be transparency, interaction, commonality, sharing of reagents, doing things as a Global Community since this is a global outbreak. From a local level, in the uk as well as the us, and in some respects the uk, because of your health system, you have a much more unified, unidimensional approach that allowed you to do things that we in the us, which are a bit more fragmented, cannot do. From a Public Health standpoint, weve got to reinvest in the local Public Health infrastructure, which we sadly have left adrift a bit almost as a victim of our own success with vaccinations and antivirals, and antibiotics. So weve got to do better with the public Health Component of that. Weve done very well with the scientific component. And perhaps take some of the politics out of this, too. Im sure you would agree with that. Katty, you didnt ask the question, but to me The One thing you dont want to do in the middle of a global Pandemic Ora Pandemic that is in your own country, you dont want intense political Divisiveness. The common enemy is the virus, and weve seen some substantial political Divisiveness in my own country which is really very unfortunate. Thank You Forjoining us earlier, doctor fauci. That bullet is the station hes spoken to before, hes been hit hit on so hard, for Fox News hes become the proxy to the biden administration politicisation. He said so many threats made against him that he became a target. I threats made against him that he became a target. Became a target. I thought it was interesting became a target. I thought it was interesting what became a target. I thought it was interesting what he became a target. I thought it was interesting what he said became a target. I thought it was interesting what he said about i became a target. I thought it was | interesting what he said about the Delta Variant, we have no Travel Corridor with the United States, get the Delta Variant as there and spreading. One Hospital Doctor said yesterday in the dirt Democrat Missouri that its led to a sixfold increase in his cases in missouri, mostly among people who are unvaccinated. When you look across europe again, we arent travelling to europe, the Delta Variant is everywhere. Italy says theyve got the fifth highest level of Delta Variant now, is taking over as the predominant in germany and france. And ijust get a bit marked that we try and isolate a thing in a particular country, we are so global, we arent connected to any of these countries yet the Delta Variant as they are. We know from the incidents in australia and new zealand, as soon as you take the Fire Blanket off, its there and it spreads. The only tool you have to fight this is vaccination. And the point i was making to the Investor Yesterday in washington there has to be some dividend for people who have two vaccines. I strongly believe that, otherwise why are we doing this . If you have two vaccines, you have stronger protection against the. Here theres not much protection against the. Here theres rrot much of protection against the. Here theres rrot much of a protection against the. Here theres not much of a Lobby Protection against the. Here theres not much of a lobby for protection against the. Here theres not much of a lobby for people i protection against the. Here theres not much of a lobby for people to i not much of a lobby for people to travel abroad than there is in the uk. Americans are happy to go on holiday in the United States, so you dont have a lot of people saying they have to open up that corridor to europe and the uk because weve been double vaccinated. Most people arent really thinking about that. But europe is not hooked up to the vice us, and vice versa. Yet they have delta i know its exponentially rising, i think were just so risk averse now and i think a lot of people are starting to say, well, whats that the dividend of having two vaccines if we Cant Travel at all . Having two vaccines if we Cant Travel at all . The most populated city in america is soon to choose a new mayor. And today in New York, the democrats are holding a primary to select the candidate who will run in the election in autumn. Since New York is overwhelmingly a democratic city, the winner of the primary will be the favourite to take over as the citys next mayor. Its a crowded field, 13 candidates and for the first time, they are rolling out a new ranked choice, Voting System. You can pick and rank up to five candidates in order of preference. Our new York Reporter Nada Tawfik has been looking at those running and the issues that have dominated the campaign. New york is looking like its old self, Fast Paced and full of life. And as residents emerge from the fog of quarantine, they have a critical choice to make who should lead the city . Were getting about 50 capacity on any given day in our Office here. Empty Offices like this one in midtown are just one of the challenges the next mayor will face to maintain New Yorks global standing as a cultural and financial hub. Retail is booming. You cannot get a reservation in many residential neighbourhoods because theyre back to life, the parks are busy. We do not see that right now in the commercial district where Office buildings are, because people are not coming back. As crucial as the recovery will be, crime and public safety are now the leading concerns of voters. The city has seen a rise in murder, shootings and anti asian attacks. And it has led to an intense debate on how to best Approach Policing in this progressive city. The spike in violence has complicated the left wing of the partys push for police reform. Theyre pinning their hopes on maya wiley. The civil Rights Attorney has picked up powerful endorsements, including from representative alexandria ocasio cortez. We dont want to go back to the things that did not work. We must be honest about what has happened and honour the victims by really putting a plan in place to say you dont need to choose between violence on the streets and over policing. Just as the race reached its crescendo, enthusiasm grew for moderate eric adams, the Brooklyn Borough president and former nypd Officer recently received the backing of george floyds brother. Not only was i arrested and beat by police Officers, but i went into the Police Department to fight for that same reform based on a personal history. Chanting our city and then there is the yang gang. These supporters are still hopeful that the polls have it wrong and that Andrew Yang has not slipped out of contention after his early frontrunner status. Yang came to us with Name Recognition of his own, from his own president ial run, and so he comes as a private citizen with an entirely fresh perspective and no baggage. So you like the Outsider Perspective . I do, yes. Three of the eight candidates are female. Depending on how the votes sWay, New York could elect its first woman mayor. Its time for a woman to lead this city. This is an unpredictable election and one of the most consequential in a generation. Whoever voters choose will be judged on the Citys Recovery and whether its a recovery for all. And nada jOins Us now. A Rainy Day there which never helps the ballot. But i suppose its difficult to know who is likely to come out on top of this because the second through fifth choice has become so important . I second through fifth choice has become so important . Second through fifth choice has become so important . I have to say, standini become so important . I have to say, Standing Outside become so important . I have to say, Standing Outside of become so important . I have to say, Standing Outside of this become so important . I have to say, Standing Outside of this polling i Standing Outside of this polling location. Standing outside of this polling location, ive spoken to many voters and i location, ive spoken to many voters and i could location, ive spoken to many voters and i could not even begin to give you a and i could not even begin to give you a sense and i could not even begin to give you a sense of whos the front runner you a sense of whos the front runner at you a sense of whos the front runner at this choice. As you say, ranked runner at this choice. As you say, ranked voting for the first time, theyve ranked voting for the first time, theyve been hanging out these flyers theyve been hanging out these flyers to theyve been hanging out these flyers to explain to people, but some flyers to explain to people, but some of flyers to explain to people, but some of the voters ive been discussing this with havent even chosen discussing this with havent even chosen five people, theyve chosen three chosen five people, theyve chosen three people, the person they like and the three people, the person they like and the people they think will win, and the people they think will win, and vice and the people they think will win, and vice versa, trying to strategize how this and vice versa, trying to strategize how this will work. One headline i wish how this will work. One headline i wish i how this will work. One headline i wish i wrote said ranked voting gets a prime wish i wrote said ranked voting gets a Prime Shot under the New York City Post like a Prime Shot under the New York City Post like bright lights. And really thats post like bright lights. And really thats it. Post like bright lights. And really thats it, because this is the largest thats it, because this is the largest city to try the ranked voting largest city to try the ranked Voting System and many say you end p Voting System and many say you end up with Voting System and many say you end up with a Voting System and many say you end up with a candidate who has a Majority Up with a candidate who has a majority of the votes. The only Issue Majority of the votes. The only issue is majority of the votes. The only issue is a majority of the votes. The only issue is a could take weeks for us to find issue is a could take weeks for us to find out issue is a could take weeks for us to find out who will become next mayor to find out who will become next mayor of to find out who will become next mayor of New York. Of to find out who will become next mayor of New York. To find out who will become next mayor of New York. Of course the Reputation Mayor of New York. Of course the reputation of mayor of New York. Of course the reputation of new mayor of New York. Of course the reputation of New York mayor of New York. Of course the reputation of New York and I Mayor of New York. Of course the reputation of New York and the I Mayor of New York. Of course the L Reputation of New York and the rest of america is as a super liberal, progressive city. Have we learned something from this campaign about just how progressive it is or is not . �. 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So i think there is something to be said about how Voters Something to be said about how voters are something to be said about how voters are choosing candidates in this race voters are choosing candidates in this race i voters are choosing candidates in this race. I mean, we go back to build this race. I mean, we go back to build de this race. I mean, we go back to build De Blasio talking about how New York is A Tale Of Two Cities and really New York is A Tale Of Two Cities and really tackling any quality. That was the really tackling any quality. That was the goal of New York here before covid which was the goal of New York here before covid which exacerbated the divide between covid which exacerbated the divide between haves and in New York. When you speak between haves and in New York. When you speak to between haves and in New York. When you speak to people in the city, thats you speak to people in the city, thats not you speak to people in the city, thats not the issue theyre focused on thats not the issue theyre focused on the thats not the issue theyre focused on the haves and Have Nots in New York city on the haves and Have Nots in New York city this on the haves and Have Nots in New York city. This is a very socially liberal york city. This is a very socially liberal city. York city. This is a very socially liberal city, all the candidates themselves are pretty liberal, even themselves are pretty liberal, even The Ones themselves are pretty liberal, even The Ones who consider themselves moderate The Ones who consider themselves moderate. So its really about where people moderate. So its really about where people want to see the city go in the future, and this will give us a lot of the future, and this will give us a lot of signals about that. Lot of signals about that. 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After that cold Summer Solstice in Southern England on monday and a frost in parts of scotland to start tuesday, a lot of talk at the moment about how below par temperatures are for the time of year. And that is the case, our departure from average map here indicating that at the moment we are mostly at or below average. A hint of perhaps something feeling a little bit warmer over the next couple of days before temperatures trail off again at The End of the week and into the weekend. Of course, not everybody� s a fan of summer heat, so this might be your cup of tea. And nothing changing in the immediate future. Although High Pressure is close by, the flow of air around it coming in from the west rather than the warmer south, and into the High Pressure we have some Weather Fronts with a chance of rain. And theyre sitting for wednesday across scotland, Northern Ireland with some outbreaks of rain, mainly Western Scotland into Northern Ireland, pushing into parts of North West England and west wales. Eastern scotland, South East wales, southern, central and Eastern England most likely to stay largely dry, see some sunshine and have the higher temperatures, pretty much warmer in south East England than its done so far this week. This Weather System with the thicker cloud and you can pick out the outbreaks of rain in no great hurry to move further south and east across the uk. Its a very slow process as the frontjust makes more progress through wales and into england on thursday, weakening all the while as it moves into High Pressure. Its an area of cloud, and you can pick out some Patchy Rain. It may well stay aWay from the far South East of england in the sunshine, it may clear through Northern England and wales as it brightens up, but clearly for scotland and northern Ireland Something else is going on. Some more vigorous Weather Fronts are arriving on thursday with some heavier bursts of rain. Now, these latest Weather Fronts, Thursday Night into friday, have to move their Way southwards. As they do so, theyll also tend to weaken a little bit, so Rain Tending to become more showery but leaving with us on friday quite a messy picture here with low pressure and bands of rain or showers affecting much of the uk. Not raining all the time, therell be some brighter moments, too, and it looks like most of this will clear through scotland as it turns drier and brighter again, though a Touch Cooler as the wind turns to a north. Now, theres alWays been something to play for in the detail for the weather this coming weekend, with High Pressure then trying to reassert itself, but it looks as if that will be mainly across northern parts of the uk, keeping lower pressure to the south, and that means more cloud for england and wales, some brighter spells but also still some showers around, where it looks as if Northern Ireland, scotland and, increasingly, Northern England on saturday either are dry or become dry, with the Lions Share of the sunshine in northern scotland. Its a very similar North South Split for part two of the weekend. On sunday, then, still relatively lower pressure towards the south, so this is where for parts of england and wales, especially further south, theres a chance of seeing some showers, some of which could be quite heavy, whereas for Northern England, for Northern Ireland and scotland that ridge of High Pressure, you are mainly dry and you get to see some sunny spells. And temperatures, well, getting on towards the high teens, for some just into the low twenties. This Weather Pattern will continue into the new week. Itll take a while for this area of low pressure, giving the showers across southern areas, to clear aWay. As it does so, it looks as if High Pressure will become more established across us and therefore the drier weather becomes more widespread later in the week and temperatures begin to head up. But Theres Something in the timing of that well keep you updated on. Until that happens, the Weather Pattern at the moment will do nothing to redress the differences weve had injune very dry across northern areas of the uk but very wet in the south