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Pursuing the npd mission, treated mr. George floyd without respect. And denied him the dignity owed to all human beings, which he certainly wouldve extended to a friend or neighbor. In the courts view, 270 months is the appropriate sentence. Today, former Minneapolis Police officer Derek Chauvin was sentenced to 270 months, 22 and a half years, in prison. For the murder that are last may of george floyd. Mr. Chauvin has been in prison since april, since a jury found him guilty of Second Degree murder, third Degree Murder and Second Degree manslaughter. All for him holding his knee on George Floyds neck until mr. Floyd was rendered unconscious and then he died on a minneapolis street corner. Mr. Chauvin was eligible to receive a theoretical maximum sentence of 40 years in prison for Second Degree murder. But the theoretical maximum associated with any particular crime is put up against state base Sentencing Guidelines, and considering the fact that mr. Chauvin had no criminal history, the Minnesota State guidelines for sentence in this case actually recommended a presumptive sentence of about 12 and a half years. Now, judges can depart from those Sentencing Guidelines and in particular, they can depart upward if theyre aggravating factors that make the crime worse than a Base Level Offense that that my presumptive sentence might have applied. To the judge in this case ruled there were four different aggravating factors that made this case essentially worse. That made it worthy of a longer sentence than 12 and a half years. But it was nevertheless striking today to see the judge go a decade beyond that present have guideline here, with this 22 and a half year sentence. In the sentencing order today the judge spelled out his reasoning for issuing a more severe punishment than the guidelines would have suggested at baseline. He said he issued the sentence because mr. Chauvin abused his position of trust and authority. Because they treated george floyd with particular cruelty. Because children were present during the commission of the offense. And because mr. Chauvin committed the crime as a group, with the active participation of three other individuals. All those four aggravating factors to the judge, justified a departure from the presumptive 12 and a half year sentence, up to the 22 and a half years that he handed down. But that last point, that last aggravating factor, committed this crime as a group with the active participation of other individuals. That is a important reminder that the legal fallout from floyds murder on that minneapolis street corner, last year, its not over. The three other Police Officers who were present for the murder of mr. Floyd, have also been charged in state court for Aiding And Abetting that killing. They are set to strand trial early next year. There are ongoing legal consequences beyond that for those other three officers and for Derek Chauvin, to. Earlier this year, the u. S. Justice department brought federal charges against chauvin and those other three officers. That chart trial has not yet been scheduled. But with this 22 and a half year sentence today, Derek Chauvin becomes only the second Police Officer in minneapolis history, excuse me, modern minnesota history, to be put in prison for murdering someone walmart onduty as a Police Officer. Nationwide Police Officer sent to prison after comey committing a crime on duty is less than 15 years. But here we are today, the actual incentives to 22 and a half years. Today in court, during Derek Chauvins sentencing hearing, several members of George Floyds family gave your are called Victim Impact Statements. Statements for people who are affected by this crime. The first of those Victim Impact Statements came from George Floyds seven year old daughter who is allowed to give her statement, but not present because of her age. Its a cell phone video. It was played in open court today. And you can see her here. Shes speaking to someone off camera, talking about her father. What do you miss most about your dad . Well, i ask about him all the time. And thats kind of it. Yeah. When you ask about him, what are you asking about . I was asking how did my dad get hurt . Do you wish that he was still here with us . Yeah. But he is. Through his spirit . Yes. Yes. And when you see your daddy again one day, what do you want to do when you see him . I want to play with him. What kind of games do you want to play with him . I want to play with him. How fun. Go on a plane ride. And thus it. Yeah. We used to have dinner meals every single night before we went to bed. My daddy always used to have me brush my teeth. Do you miss him helping you brush your teeth . Yes. How do you hope that the world remembers him . Well, they help him because some people did something to him. If you could say anything to your daddy right now, what would it be . It would be i miss you and i love you. All right, thank you gianna. I really appreciate you asking answering questions today. That Victim Impact Statement was the first time that sevenyearold gianna floyds voice was heard in that courtroom. After her statement, the core also heard from George Floyds cousin and from his two brothers. They testify today in person. And then the defense, mr. Joe chauvin side, call just one packed victim, Derek Chauvins mother. Who can proclaimed his innocence and asked for leniency on his behalf. Chauvin himself also gave brief remarks in which he offered his condolences to the floyd family. He also said somewhat cryptically to the floyd familys, theres going to be other information in the future that would be of interest. And i hope things will give you some peace of mind. He directed that to the floyd family. Im not sure what he meant. Your judge top all of those statements into account before handing down what is the longest sentence of any Police Officer in modern minnesota history. One of the longest sentences ever handed down for Police Officer for use of force case on the line of duty. The case against chauvin was initially brought, minnesotas governor essentially took the job of Prosecuting Chauvin away from the County Prosecutor, who would normally have overseen a case like this in the normal course of events. Governor wallace took the case out of the traditional system that has led to so many failed indictments and negligible sentences. Not just in minnesota, but everywhere across the country. He took that away from the County Prosecutor and he gave this case to minnesotas attorney general, Keith Ellison. And it was ellison who assembled the team of prosecutors that ultimately obtain not only a conviction here, but now as of today, and historic sentence as well. Shortly after the sentence was handed down, attorney general Keith Ellison made a statement alongside those prosecutors. Alongsid the outcome of this s critically important. But by itself, its not enough. My hope for our country is that this moment gives us pause and allows us to rededicate ourselves to the real societal change that will move us much further along the road to justice. Im not talking about the kind of change that takes decades. Im talking about real change, concrete xinjiang, that real people can do now. That is Minnesota Attorney general Keith Ellison, who joins us now live exclusively. In the wake of this sentencing decision, today. Mister attorney general, thank you so much for making time. Its an honor to have you here tonight. Thank you, thanks for having me. You made remarks today talking about this being not justice, but something on the way towards justice. Overall, what do you think people in this country should think about this sentence today . How do you view it numerically in terms of the balance between what was proven and what was within the courts power . It was a historically long sentence for this offense. But at the same time, no matter how much time judge cahill gave Derek Chauvin, it would never restore george floyd. And that beautiful child that you just showed, her daddy wont walk her down the aisle one day. Wont be at her sweet 16 birthday party. Those brothers of his will now not be able to plea laugh about the old times. Because hes gone. That means to me that theres really no sentence vest truly satisfying. But this sentence is historically lengthy. It is a stiff sentence. Though the judge did not want to, and did not intend to send a message, there was a message that was sent. Which is that if you commit a murder, whether you wear a badge or not, you can face a very serious consequences. And your role as a state actor is not going to shield you from responsibility and accountability. It was interesting today to see the judge talk about the aggravating factors that he used to justify northward departure, an upward departure, from what had been otherwise 12 and a half year sentence under minnesota Sentencing Guidelines. One of those was that he acted in a group with other individuals who were involved. I know that the judge, that the case of the other three officers, the state charges against the other three officers, for Aiding And Abetting this murder that trial has been pushed. It was otherwise going to be an august. It has been pushed to early next year. In part because of concerns in the court that theres essentially too much heat. Theres a desire on the part of the judge but some distance between the chauvin trial and that next round. What should the people of minnesota and the people of this country expect from that next trial of the other three officers . And ultimately, what is your perspective on the federal charges that are still pending against all four of these short officers . Rachel, im a little bit limited on what im allowed to say. But what i will see is, those three individuals are presumed innocent. But there is probable cause for the charges of Aiding And Abetting the Second Degree murder, third Degree Murder and manslaughter against them. And we expect to put their case in front of 12 jurors of their peers, and present evidence. And we expect that the charges that we made will be found to be true by that jury. But that remains to be seen. Theyre presumed emerson. They have the right to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. And were moving forward to hold them accountable as well. Im sorry to interrupt you, before he speaks to the federal charges, do you support the decision to move that trial to early next year rather than hold at the end of the summer . No. That was a decision by the court, on the courts when prerogatives. We were ready for an august trial. And we were getting ready for it but the court within its own judgment felt it would be better to move it. So, we dont contest that decision. But moving on to the federal charges, there are different in nature. So, as a state were vindicating our duty to make sure that people dont have to be favorable the federal government is making sure that people civils rights are vindicated. So, these are civil rights charges. They are very serious charges. And if you look at the federal Sentencing Guidelines, when death is a result of a serious civil rights violation, you can be facing life in prison. So, those are serious charges. And beyond that, a lot of federal authorities handle that. I think theyre proper, theyre appropriate. And im glad the Justice Department is taking this seriously. Justi i want to ask you about something that happened in court today. Im not sure anybody knows exactly what it means. Im not sure if you know what it means. But i wanted to get your reaction to it. The defendant today, before he was sentenced, mr. Chauvin gave very brief remarks in which he addressed mr. Floyds family. He said that there is going to be some other information in the future that would be of interest, and i hope will give you some peace of mind. It seemed both a little strange and potentially ominous. Do you have any insight into what mr. Chauvin was talking about . Or alternately, do you have any reaction to what he said there . Well, i only have speculation, rachel. Obviously that was the first what he said was the first time i heard it. We obviously took our own guesses. But we dont have any solid information on exactly what he meant. I will see i think it is good that he offered his condolences. I think when you take a loved one away from someone, is the least you can do is say that. But theres clearly more that could be said. But i cant say that i definitively what he was referring to. Keith ellison, who was in the singular position of organizing this prosecution which resulted not only in the historic verdict but in todays historically along sentence for Derek Chauvin. Mister attorney general, this has been an exhausting process and theres lots more still to come. Thank you for helping us understand tonight. Thank you. Weve got more news ahead tonight, stay with us. Ght, stay with us. Can we be besties, simone biles . I guess . Yessss should we dismount now . upbeat music [narrator] this is kate. She always wanted her smile to shine. Now, she uses a capful of therabreath healthy smile oral rinse to give her the healthy, sparkly smile she always wanted. Crowd Cheering therabreath, its a better mouthwash. At walmart, target and other fine stores. Hearing is important to living life to the fullest. Thats why inside every miracleear store, youll find better laughs at family barbecues. 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Ill interrupt, pull the mic way up close are not going to hear a word. You can start over, if youd like, because i didnt hear you. [laughs] the prosecutor in this case, like, youve practiced the whole first line, right . The whole point of this part of the trial is like seize the moment, take the floor. This is a case of just start over. Adjust the mic. She starts over. Prosecutor, this is a case about greed. But not greed for money, greed for power. For prestige, for importance. Its about this man, Stephen Caulk who wanted a powerful Government Title and gave out millions of titles and bank loans to try and get it. He was the chairman and ceo of a bank called the federal savings bank. He pushed his bank to lend 16 million to Paul Manafort, a political lobbyist. Why did he do it . He gave out millions because manafort gave him things that were even more valuable. A high profile spot on the president ial campaign. And manaforts help in getting him a top government job. In other, words he took a bribe from Paul Manafort. Manafort gave him political favor and colleague gave him bank loans. This for that, loans for influence. Ladies and gentlemen thats what this case is about and that is why you are here today. Because the head of a bank to pay bribe from Paul Manafort because he used that are in short banking oversaw as is personal piggy bank to try and buy himself prestige and power. You are going to learn in this trial that in july, 2016, Paul Manafort came to the bank

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