Laura and chris, you know my dayjob is reporting on politics at breakfast and i got a complaint from a viewer that i was wearing a Disgusting Brown tie one day. I struck up a Fashion Friendship where i get advice from them and i thought i could stage that now on this podcast. The concerned viewer is Labour Peer Lord mandelson, hello, peter. Hi, adam. How bad was the tie that made hi, adam. How bad was the tie that made you hi, adam. How bad was the tie that made you want hi, adam. How bad was the tie that made you want to hi, adam. How bad was the tie that made you want to text hi, adam. How bad was the tie that made you want to text in . The one Thing Adam is not is a fashionista. This is my first tie, laura, how would you describe that . Classic navy, standard and not doing much for me. I think it might be rayon. A tory i think it might be rayon. A tory supporting tie. Obviously we have tory supporting tie. Obviously have no tory supporting tie. Obviously have no allegiances, it isjust blue~ what do you reckon about that one, peter . Masquerading as silk in red. Its sort ofjunior minister, new Labour Era about 1999. This is Really radical, mediterranean wedding tie. Ok, so this is skinny, floral, something that might be on lulu little wallpaper. Navy background. Sort of trying to have the impression of a Liberty Print but it impression of a Liberty Print but it is impression of a Liberty Print but it is not. Have you warned that on the telly, adam . I no, this is the extreme item to make the others look reasonable. Did you have a Hippie Upbringing . No. All i do is warn you about broadcasting in that tie from an indian restaurant, because you might merge into the wallpaper. Adam, i think you ought to listen. That is enough of Lord Mandelson� s opinion on my clothes, but lets get his opinion on this edition of newscast. Hello, adam in the studio, not wearing a tie because this is a podcast and you dont have to. Laura in the same studio but we are still two metres apart and i am sorry you didnt put the flowery tie on. Im chris, In My Room down the corridor. We will hear from Lord Mandelson on lots in a minute but first we will hear from our new Media Editor and a new Potential Editor of the today programme. We shouldnt be laughing becuase there is a serious Story Today about the bbc and the addition of panorama on Bbc One about another addition of panorama and it was the famous one from The 90s when Martin Bashir interviewed Princess Diana. There has been a huge investigation by a judge as to how they got the interview . It is interesting in and said dykmarx yes, i know some of the individuals involved. You mentioned the notorious Martin Bashir interview of Princess Diana in 1995, this is where she said there were three people. In this marriage and it was a big crowd. We have known for some time i it was obtained after some fake Bank Statements which Martin I bashir asked a Graphic Designer to mock up. They were shown to earll spencer, Princess Dianas brother, as a way of gaining his Trust And Access to Princess Diana. But the story kicked off in a big way around the time, there was a Big Investigationl in the 1990s which essentially cleared bashir of any wrongdoing. Coming up to the 25th anniversary, people looked at it again and they said, somethings missing here, big time. There was a bit of. A hoo hah last year. Lord dyson, was appointed by Tim Davie to look into it and he has issued a very, very thorough report. In the report he says three bad things about the bbc. The first is accusing Martin Bashir of repeated lying, says he deceivedl colleagues and sources. On the second level, which is the investigation which Tony Hall, which was then the director of news, later Director General, i the investigation he did into how the panorama was secured, he basically said was woefully ineffective. He says Tony Hall was wrong not to interview Earl Spencer. And then he said something even more explosive he doesnt use i the Phrase Cover up, he said the Bbc Wenti through the process of covering up, the bbc as an institution i deceived large numbers of people in the public. About what it knew about that whole saga. The Director General has said today it is a dark day i think it is an understatement. We will hear what some of the players have had to say, but this is what Earl Spencer told panorama about what he thinks the impact might have been on how history played out. Well, the irony is i met Martin Bashir on the 31st of august 1995, because exactly two years later she died. And i do draw a line between the two events. Amol, Martin Bashir has resigned from the bbc on ill health grounds. What has he said today, because he has released a statement . He has released a statement. He says once again that he accepts he was wrong, he said it was a stupid mistake to ask for these Bank Statements to be mocked up, as he put it. He also reasserts that Princess Diana would have given him this interview anyway. Its a Really central point, had it not been for these Bank Statements, she was still i in a place where she wanted to speak to the bbc. And he also says hes proud of that interview and proud i of the fact that she addressed issues around Mental Health in particular. People forget, if they go back and watch it, there is a lot of things about bulimia and dark stuff about i Mental Health at a time when not many peoplel were talking about itl and Martin Bashir has reiterated he is proud i about the contribution it made to public life. A lot of this is whether Earl Spencer is reflecting and everything that happens or Martin Bashir reflecting on everything that happened, there is no way of knowing what would have happened in a parallel universe despite all the Speculation And Chatter about this significant story. I suppose what is also hard to tell is what the impact Really will be on the bbc. It seems strange talking about the bbc when we are sitting in the bbc, but there is obviously immediately, a lot of this is appalling, lord birt has said it is a stain on the bbc, he was Director General at the time. But it is such a very long time ago. I dont know how sure you feel we can be about what the impact will be, because its a long, long time ago and its also not the first time concerns about this interview have been raised. It has been covered off and on for a long time. Spot on, laura. The one thing i would say, i that is a pillar of the bbcs defence, lessons have been learned from 25 years ago. I but what weakens that defence is Martin Bashir was rehired when Tony Hall was Director General as religious Affairs Correspondent in 2016. It shows Tony Hall, who conducted the original investigation, i think he would say it was a mistake and theres a consensus that the rehiring Martin Bashir was a mistake, but he was rehiredl only five years ago. The truth is, as you know better than anyone, as we all know as journalists who work for the bbc, in The Slaughterhouse that is modern Social Media, this is going to lead two days and days are bad headlines, i damaging memes, and Social Media is where i nuance goes to die and some people might lose the fact i that it is historic. Some people will fail. To understand it is from the previous regime so i think it will damage the bbcs reputation. Thank you for bringing all the nuances of the complicated story, and you probably need to get to bed because you are an early riser now . Mate, im on a day off tomorrow. Ill be drinking rum. Thanks for having me on, see soon. Did anyone remember seeing the interview at the time was to mark anyone give any thought to what was going on behind the scenes and the Run Up to it . It behindthescenes and the runup to it . Runup to it . It was jawdropping. Runup to it . It was jawdropping. You. Runup to it . It was i jawdropping. You felt runup to it . It was jawdropping. You felt that princes jawdropping. You felt that Princes Diana had gone through a Real Princes Diana had gone through a Real heartrending period of her life~ a Real heartrending period of her life. There was something Really her life. There was something Really authentic about it. I have Really authentic about it. I have to Really authentic about it. I have to say, large more authentic than i found the meghan Markle Interview more recently meghan Markle Interview more recently. I think the bbc has been recently. I think the bbc has been absolutely right to face up been absolutely right to face up to this. It is a terrible lot up to this. It is a terrible lot on up to this. It is a terrible lot on the bbcs Copy Book as the Ben Lot on the bbcs Copy Book as the ben Director General has very the ben Director General has very honestly said. The truth is that very honestly said. The truth is that the interview was obtained on a fraudulent basis. It liberally, Dianas Sense of paranoia, it liberally, Dianas Sense of paranoia, her sense of isolation including from her Staff Isolation including from her staff and her personal protection officer, that was deliberately fed or manipulated in order deliberately fed or manipulated in order to get that interview and you just have to ask yourself, if that hadnt been the case yourself, if that hadnt been the case and if the Interview Hadnt the case and if the Interview Hadnt taken place then perhaps History Hadnt taken place then perhaps history would have been different. Perhaps if she hadnt different. Perhaps if she hadnt been quite so isolated from hadnt been quite so isolated from her hadnt been quite so isolated from her staff and her security people. From her staff and her security people, she wouldnt have been in paris people, she wouldnt have been in paris so people, she wouldnt have been in paris so unprotected and so exposed in paris so unprotected and so exposed to those human elements. Ijust ask the question, thats all. Elements. I just ask the question, thats all. That was ou in question, thats all. That was you in the question, thats all. That was you in The 90s, question, thats all. That was you in The 90s, lets question, thats all. That was you in The 90s, lets talk you in The 90s, lets talk about you in the noughties when you are a Trade Dealer. There has been a rift in the cabinet over the uks Negotiating Position for the upcoming Trade Deal with australia. Set out what the different factions are. You have george eustace, should be friend of The Farm and fishermen, the Secretary Of State for the environment and rural affairs. He wants a Trade Deal with australia, but he wants there to be a deal with australia with quite a lot of conditions attached. To protect small farmers in the uk from the Brute Force of aussie farmers flooding the country with cheap exports. Thats the fear. In the other Corner Youve got liz truss, Secretary Of State for International Trade and is desperate to do a Trade Deal with australia and wants it to be a Free Trade, no holds barred, lets go Free Trade buccaneering at the top of the list. In the middle, a lot of people trying to find consensus between them but it is tricky and awkward. It is relevant, because this would be the first Trade Deal the uk does that is Notjust A Rolloverfrom the kind we used to have in the eu. Second, of course, this is being seen as a proxy for the kind of relationship the uk wants with the rest of the world in our globally british post brexit future. Peter, this is the sort of thing you want to get used it if you have an independent Trade Deal, who do you and who do you annoy here . Who do you accept there . Everything is exaggerated and overblown at this stage. The actual ambition of the entire thing would be much lower than anyone is talking about now. I dont believe that australian food imports are going to swamp our markets. But it does say something about the politics of trade in food. I think that if this sort of anxiety is being created over australian lamb, you wait till we get back to american, chlorinated Chicken And Hormone injected beef. Then everyone will Really start taking off all over again. Youve seen nothing yet. Where do you think the compromise should lie on this perspective australian deal, which side of the argument would you fall down on . I know where its going to fall down. Go on then. It will fall down on the side of george eustace. It will fall down on the side of every agricultural Trade Deal i have ever seen negotiated. That is that tariff elimination, which one side of the argument will make great hay of, and shout from the rooftops about, will be caveat uttered by the haters and introduced over very many years. Thats how it always is with agriculture, because they are very, very sensitive sectors for all concerned. The problem for britain is that, by and large, our trade is already open to the rest of the world. The only part of our economy that isnt is agriculture. Its the only Really seriously protected area that we have to unprotect and therefore offer to the rest of the world in order to get benefits and Trade Opportunities and openings back in return. And im afraid that agriculture is going to be continuously exposed in each and every successive trade negotiation, whether it be with australia as were doing, united states or brazil. Anywhere where there are big agricultural exporters, we are going to come on the Receiving End of very tough and offensive demands made against our farm sector. You mean offensive as in that it is something we are asking for, not in the sense of How Dare You . Like in American Football . We are defensive over agriculture. We are offensive chiefly on services. If you pull over yourself and you are so keen to show how good you are and how quick you can achieve these negotiations, you are in danger of sacrificing the goals and targets that you have established for yourselves because you are so keen to show off politically. Because to get, to Realise those goals, those offensive targets, it requires more negotiation, it requires patience, it requires detail, it requires being prepared to walk away from a negotiation if you are not getting what you want, rather than just throwing everything in in a mad, great hurry in order to wave it around at the 620 meeting . You are not suggesting that they want a Grip And Grin session when australia comes to the 620 session when australia comes to the g20 in cornwall . How sceptical of you, Lord Mandelson . We will have to see if your prediction comes true. Lets stick to our timetable because we are talking about trains. If you are a fan of thomas the Tank Engine, you will understand this reference from the Transport Secretary Grant shapps as he was introducing his new idea of bringing all the railways together so that the customers lives are made easier, with a new body called great british railways. By bringing the timetable and the ticketing and the network| together effectively under one i roof, it means that you do know who is responsible. When things go wrong there is a single guiding man, or a fat controller,. Running the network. No reference to Annie And Clarabel that is the great shame for me. I think he means body positive controller. This blueprint for the railways could eventually mean that things feel do a bit different when it comes to tickets and scanning your phone at the gate and who you can speak to if you want a refund. I am on trains a lot more, but not half as much as i am watching thomas the Tank Engine with my little ones. Let me tell you, i could run to the entire let me tell you, i could run to the entire biographical cast iist~ i can run through the cast list, but i will not. Shame it is quite a change, given that one of the great criticisms of the Privatisation Era was one of fragmentation, that you were splitting up who was responsible for the track and the signalling and that complexity and you can only get on this train by this company and this one at a particular time, and all of that. I guess the case that is being made is keeping an element of privatisation, but bringing a lot of the rest of it under that single, new organisation with an almost retro name. At the end of a few days of vigorous interviews given by Angela Rayner after a pretty brutal Briefing War between her and Keir Starmer in the wake of labours not very good Election results. At the end of it she came out with lots and lots of newjobs. 0ne came out with lots and lots of newjobs. One of which has given her a more front facing role, in theory, in public and in the commons and this was her first big outing where she Really wanted to socket to the tories but. 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Thank you, Lord Mandelson less right now. Thank you, Lord Mandelson and less right now. Thank you, Lord Mandelson and i less right now. Thank you, Lord Mandelson and i guess less right now. Thank you, Lord Mandelson and i guess that less right now. Thank you, Lord Mandelson and i guess that is L Mandelson and i guess that is your mandelson and i guess that is your Tot Mandelson and i guess that is your lot from us. Have we petered your lot from us. Have we petered out . Your lot from us. Have we etered out . � , , petered out . Blimey definitely time to no petered out . Blimey definitely time to go now petered out . Blimey definitely time to go now goodbye. Time to go now goodbye. Goodbye. Hello again. Thursday brought us an unusually deep area of low pressure for the time of year. It brought some very powerful looking seas to the coastline of newquay in cornwall there, a look at the pretty impressive waves battering the coastline here and the strongest winds were around the coasts of south West England and wales. The strongest gusts were well into the 605 to low 70s of miles an hour, peaking with a gust of 73 mph in Pembrey Sands in south wales. And, of course, it was pretty wet as well. The wettest weather is across this central swathe of the uk. 36mm for north wales. But in sharp contrast to that, it was mainly dry across North West Scotland and there was barely a drop of rain across the south east. The rain will continue to be variable on into friday, thanks to ourfamiliar slow moving friend, our area of low pressure here. So weve got rain at the moment. The rains getting heavier, the winds a bit stronger across Eastern Scotland but for many of us, it will stay pretty blustery over the next few hours with those strong Gale Force gusts of wind pummelling the coasts and the hills. More rain to come as well. But its not too cold as we head into friday morning. Now, the wettest weather through the day will be across wales, northern england, Eastern Scotland. The rain not amounting to much for North West Scotland. It will ease off in Northern Ireland and there probably wont be that much in the south east, but the winds will be very strong, gusting to 50 60 mph around those English Channel coasts, perhaps 70 mph gusts somewhere like the needles, the West Coast of the isle of wight, and those temperatures disappointing. Just 13 in london. Well, it should be about 19 at this time of year. Saturday, brighter, but therell be some showers around, some of them heavy and thundery. Sunday sees a return of more wet weather pushing in from the west. It will also be quite windy. So, Saturdays Weather first of all. Might be some rain there or thereabouts in the south, certainly quite a few showers across eastern areas as we start the day. The best of any brighter weather probably developing across northern and western areas of the uk as we go through the afternoon. And those temperatures still pretty disappointing 12 in glasgow, should be about 16 at this time of year. And sunday, bright start with some sunshine. This band of rain is going to move in from the west with strengthening winds followed by showers in Northern Ireland later in the day. Well, some of those could be pretty heavy as well. And those temperatures, 11 12 Degrees Celsius Really poor for this stage of may. And even into next week, therell be showers around. Welcome to bbc news. Im tim willcox. Our top stories celebrations on the streets of gaza, as israel and the palestinian militants agree to a ceasefire after 11 days of deadly conflict. The truce appears to be holding as it enters its third hour. Its 4am in gaza city, this is the scene live. In other News Prince William attacks the bbc after an inquiry heavily criticises the broadcaster over its interview with Princess Diana. It brings indescribable sadness to know that the bbcs failures contributed significantly to herfear, Paranoia And Isolation that i remember from those final years with her