Worlds ability to recover from the pandemic. Worlds ability to recover from the andemic. � ,. ,. , worlds ability to recover from the andemic. ~. ,. ,. , masks are no more at least for vaccinated americans. The cdc says those whove had theirjabs can take their masks off anywhere, anytime. Indoors or out. We have all waited for this moment when we can get back to some sense of normalcy. And ive been speaking to the godfather of shock rock alice cooper on his return to his hometown of detroit where he has just recorded a new album. Hello im Laura Trevelyan in washington. Christian fraser is in london. Israeli forces are massing on the border with gaza as the military considers plans for a possible ground invasion. Israel has continued its air strikes on gaza where people say they endured the worst night since the 2014 war. At least 83 people are reported to have been killed in gaza since monday. Seven people have died in israel. Palestinian militants have continued Firing Barrages of rockets at several target cities across israel. And clashes betweenjewish and arab civilians on the streets of tel aviv, lod and beyond have intensified amid warnings of civil war. From jerusalem heres our middle east editor, jeremy bowen. Vicious night after long, hard days and none unexpected front line on the streets of israel. Sectarian violence between Israeli Citizens is a new dimension of this crisis. Not all israelis arejews, around 20 are palestinian arabs. Last night, young men were on the prowl for people to attack. Jews versus arabs, arabs againstjews. All Israeli Citizens. The president once they should not abandon the country to civil war. In the last 15 years, was among the masses have followed a pattern. The next big decision for israel is whether to send in its troops. Tens of thousands of palestinians gathered injerusalem to pray at the most holy place other than mecca and medina. Chants and banners celebrating hamas and its leaders celebrating, on the holiday that ends ramadan. It is meant to be a fun time forfamilies, but this year, it is hard. The president has been upstaged by his rivals in hamas. No peace, security or Stability Whilejerusalem is occupied. In this israeli town close to gaza, a five year old boy was killed when a bomb hit his building. His neighbours have had enough. It is very, very difficult to live under the circumstances. The government should wipe out gaza once and for all. Benjamin netanyahu went to see troops running the iron dome and missile factories. He said that it will take time, but israel would decisively restore quiet. It is a modest warning. He will need more to tell israelis than that before all of this can end. The Prime Minister is also struggling to save his job. Right across israel and the occupied territories this week, there is serious violence. This is a town in the occupied west bank, youths confronting each other and another generation cursed by the failures of its leaders. Reporting from jerusalem. Before we speak to our next guest, it is just worth reminding ourselves of some of the geography of this region, which is crucial to understanding the conflict and how it is unfolding. So, in dark red you can see there the two self governed Palestinian Territories the west bank which is run by fatah, and the gaza strip further to the south which is on the mediterranean coast and is controlled by hamas, and that has been the focus of the israeli air strikes these recent days. The Israeli Government says its targeting militants whove been Firing Rockets at the israeli cities of ashkelon, ashdod and tel aviv. Separately theres been unrest with israel too. A State Of Emergency has been declared in the mixed arab jewish city of lod, to the south east of tel aviv after rioting broke out between Arab Israelis and the police. Dahlia scheindlin is a Foreign Policy analyst at the Century Foundation and she joins us from tel aviv. Nice to have the weather is. In the piece that you wrote for newsweek, you described these lynch mobs, young jewish men roaming the streets chanting death to arabs. You point to a recent history, to the problems in bosnia in the 1990s. Do you really see it like that . Is that the rest there is now within israel . I really see it like that, or i wouldnt really see it like that, or i wouldnt have thought about it to begin wouldnt have thought about it to begin with. Knowing the balkan region begin with. Knowing the balkan region and how ethnic violent broke out within region and how ethnic violent broke out within communities in yugoslavia in those out within communities in yugoslavia in those communities, i am witnessing something that is unusuah witnessing something that is unusual. I want to point out there is not unusual. I want to point out there is not only unusual. I want to point out there is not onlyjewish mobs chanting death is not onlyjewish mobs chanting death to is not onlyjewish mobs chanting death to arabs, there have been arab mobs death to arabs, there have been arab mobs around the city and country as welt mobs around the city and country as welt in mobs around the city and country as welt in the mobs around the city and country as well. In the last 24 hours, the violence well. In the last 24 hours, the violence has been mutual. There is no Question Violence has been mutual. There is no question about it. What i argue is the no question about it. What i argue is the motivations for dues and the motivations for arabs for perpetrating this hand to hand violence perpetrating this hand to hand violence perpetrating this hand to hand violence jews. We have a history of conflict violence jews. We have a history of conflict back to the late 19705, but there of conflict back to the late 19705, but there have been thing5 escalated things. But there have been thing5 escalated thing5, jew5 but there have been thing5 escalated thing5, jews and people in israel emanating from the top of the government, even in the last 12 years government, even in the last 12 years with government, even in the last 12 years with Benjamin Netanyahu being empowered, but the political level5 empowered, but the political levels we have empowered, but the political levels we have seen with raci5m, incitement, Jewi5h Supremacy and we have seen with racism, incitement, jewish supremacy and the party in incitement, jewish supremacy and the party in recent elections, and i think party in recent elections, and i think that party in recent elections, and i think that their thuggish and vioient think that their thuggish and violent parts of society that remained on the fringe in a different remained on the fringe in a different kind of climate have been given different kind of climate have been given political cover. That has empowered them and led them to act with the empowered them and led them to act with the impunity and brought us to the situation of violence at least on the the situation of violence at least on the part of the jewish side. The arab on the part of the jewish side. The arab side on the part of the jewish side. The arab side have a completely different set of motivations, and i dont different set of motivations, and i dont want different set of motivations, and i dont want to ignore those because i dont dont want to ignore those because i dont support violence in any form. The government is responsible for ignoring the government is responsible for ignoring those fringe elements. Gur ignoring those fringe elements. Our social ignoring those fringe elements. Oi social compact a5 ignoring those fringe elements. Ij social compact as being fractured, does it feel like that to you . Your abs it feels like that. The only thing is i am surprised it didnt start now. We can think about the starting point, but any system that has really been citizen that has been really listening to the politicians in the last decade will see it has been drawn apart. When the legislator began debating and passing laws targeting one fifth of the population who are arab palestinian citizens, this was happening already between 2009 in 2013. And you need to just follow where that lead. It led to the passage in 2018 of the basic law which has constitutional status defining israel as a nation state as a jewish only state, which targets the are arab citizens. That is a rending of the social fabric and it didnt start with the events of last two days, it has a source and that has been developing deep and over time. ~. , ,. , time. Where does this leave the olitics . Time. Where does this leave the politics . As time. Where does this leave the politics . As benjamin time. Where does this leave the | politics . As Benjamin Netanyahu time. Where does this leave the politics . As Benjamin Netanyahu did not get a majority to form a coalition, there was talk that a new coalition, there was talk that a new coalition would be found by the end of this week. But suddenly, he is the commander in chief, he is on television talking the talk. Does this empower him . Is it convenient for him . It this empower him . Is it convenient for him . ,. , this empower him . Is it convenient for him . , ,. , for him . It is convenient for him and i for him . It is convenient for him and i think for him . It is convenient for him and i think thats for him . It is convenient for him and i think thats a for him . It is convenient for him and i think thats a very for him . It is convenient for him and i think thats a very good for him . It is convenient for him | and i think thats a very good way of phrasing it. I dont want to engage in her thinking whether he masterminded this. For Benjamin Netanyahu in particular, there is i was a rally around their flag effect and the level of coalition building, it certainly has put a significant amount of pressure on the parties who are currently negotiating to form a government. Those who were against netanyahu in trying to form against netanyahu in trying to form a government without him, it has put pressure on them bringing in party that represents palestinian citizens and the Islamic Movement in israel which would have been ground breaking, but the moment there has been a violent escalation between palestinians, that makes it hard for the ideological right wing who were considered going into that coalition, the change coalition to form a link where they party starting a movement. It looks very difficult for the right wing constituencies, very difficult for the arab side also as well. The two sides are still saying that they might re establish those negotiations, especially if De Escalation dies down. Right now, doesnt look as they it is dying down and one of the right wing parties that was considering going into this Composition Coalition has, as of this evening, announced that he would prefer to negotiate with netanyahu. He would prefer to negotiate with netan ahu. , ~ i. He would prefer to negotiate with netan ahu. , ~. , netanyahu. Thank you so much for oininu us netanyahu. Thank you so much for joining us with netanyahu. Thank you so much for joining us with that netanyahu. Thank you so much for joining us with that analysis netanyahu. Thank you so much for joining us with that analysis there. J joining us with that analysis there. Thank you for having me. Concerns are growing in the uk about the india variant in the last few hours Public Health england has said that the number of cases of the variant has doubled to over 1,300 more than double what was reported last week. Earlier today the governments Scientific Advisory group sage met to talk about the spread of the Indian Coronavirus Variant. Whilst the numbers are relatively low, they are rising and the planned unlocking of england from monday could accelerate that spread. Speaking today, the uk Prime Minister borisjohnson said the situation was being monitored very carefully. It is a variant of concern. We are anxious about it, it has been spreading. At the moment there is a very wide range of scientific opinion about what could happen. But we want to make sure that we take all but we want to make sure that we take all the prudential and cautious steps take all the prudential and cautious steps now take all the prudential and cautious steps now that we could take. And you can see why the uk government is concerned when you look at the data for blackburn in the uk, its seven day average of new covid cases has doubled over the last few weeks. Experts say theres a direct corelation to the emergence of the indian variant. Its been announced that from next week all peoples over 18 in the blackburn area will be able to get a covid 19 vaccine. Lets talk to Deepti Gurdasani epidemiologist at queen marys university. Thank you very much for being with us. Can you tell me where it is spreading . Is it within communities that are resistant to vaccines . H0. That are resistant to vaccines . No, that are resistant to vaccines . No, that doesnt that are resistant to vaccines . Iifr, that doesnt appear to be the case. There are more than 48 clusters all across the uk, in england, scotland and wales. Yes, there is a focus on the North Western london where the strain has clearly become dominant and we are seeing a surge in cases, but the rest of england isnt that far behind. It is not a localised phenomenon, i know it seems like it is, but it is not. That variant is common in these areas and pass the threshold where its gone out of control, but you will see the patterns in other parts of england will be similar. We patterns in other parts of england will be similar. Patterns in other parts of england will be similar. We have been trying to Contact People will be similar. We have been trying to Contact People today will be similar. We have been trying to Contact People today and will be similar. We have been trying to Contact People today and they i to Contact People today and they have said they dont want to talk. They also understand that the government is under immense pressure because the Hospitality Industry is gearing up for a reopening on monday and do you sense there is unease about that . I and do you sense there is unease about that . And do you sense there is unease about that . ~ ,. , about that . I think there is unease about that . I think there is unease about that . About that . I think there is unease about that . I about that . I think there is unease about that . L think about that . I think there is unease about that . I think they about that . I think there is unease about that . I think they should about that . I think there is unease about that . I think they should be | about that . I think they should be because this is deftly concerning. Public Health England said themselves that this is a high, ongoing risk to Public Health, so the situation that we are seeing with exponential rises in many parts of england and this variant is already between 50 to 60 percent of the cases in the report that has been released in the south west, the north west and london. 0thers been released in the south west, the north west and london. Others will follow it seems. We are in the situation because the government hasnt managed to get on the top of the pandemic and didnt prevent these cases from being reported. This is entirely predictable and even sage predicted it and have been warning against it for many months. It hasjust been warning against it for many months. It has just been announced that fully vaccinated people dont need to amass indoors, almost never in the us. Western biden President Biden is calling it a great day, but do you think it is true . We definitely do you think it is true . We definitely dont do you think it is true . Definitely dont have data on the level of protection against remission of variants. And certainly while there is a high level of attention on people who have been vaccinated on the variants we know about, we know that people who are vaccinated can get infected and can transmit, so it is very concerning that people are being given the message that it is ok to admit indoors with other mix indoors with other vaccinated people. It is all the more answers to why these new variants are spreading. Maw; new variants are spreading. Many eole new variants are spreading. Many people will new variants are spreading. Many people will be new variants are spreading. Many people will be concerned new variants are spreading. Many people will be concerned about this. Can we be clear that the variant that we are talking about doesnt escape the vaccine that we are taking in the uk, does it . . Latte escape the vaccine that we are taking in the uk, does it . . We dont know that. There taking in the uk, does it . . We dont know that. There are taking in the uk, does it . . We dont know that. There are concerns taking in the uk, does it . . We dont know that. There are concerns that l know that. There are concerns that it may escape vaccines, but we are hopeful that even if it does and there is a high level of protection maintained against the disease, the fact is we just dont know and this is data that will emerge in the coming weeks. Is data that will emerge in the cominu weeks. , ~. , coming weeks. Thank you so much for bein with coming weeks. Thank you so much for being with us a couple of weeks ago, we had the governor of West Virginia on the programme whos offering people 100 to go and get a covid vaccine. New york is offering free Baseball Tickets with your vaccine. But ohio, where demand has been flagging has gone a step further. The state says it will award cash prizes of 1 million to five people over the next month who get a covid 19 vaccine. Which brings a whole new meaning to the term vaccine lottery. The Ohio Governor mike dewine said only adult residents who have had the firstjab will be eligible. The first of five draws will be announced on 26th may. And the money in case you were wondering is coming from the federal covid relief fund. Which i am not sure Thatjoe Biden would be altogether pleased about. I am not sure that he envisage that would be how it would be used. There is now doing this is because theres been a slowdown in the uptake of the vaccine in ohio, but that is not the case in new york where people, i understand are trying to get their Children Vaccinated . This understand are trying to get their Children Vaccinated . Children vaccinated . As of yesterday. Children vaccinated . As of yesterday, children Children Vaccinated . As of yesterday, children of Children Vaccinated . As of| yesterday, children of over Children Vaccinated . As of. Yesterday, children of over 15 Children Vaccinated . As of yesterday, children of over 15 have been allowed to get the pfizer vaccine. I can tell you that in my brooklyn neighbourhood, people are rushing to sign their kids up yesterday afternoon. I went past the mother he was taken a 12 year old off to get vaccinated and i felt, how did she do that when i didnt . Sigh when and spent plenty of time in the internet and got my 14 year old an appointment tomorrow. Did you go all pushy mum . It 14yearold an appointment tomorrow. Did you go all pushy mum . Did you go all pushy mum . It was tier did you go all pushy mum . It was tiger mum did you go all pushy mum . It was tiger mum central. Did you go all pushy mum . It was tiger mum central. I did you go all pushy mum . It was tiger mum central. I can did you go all pushy mum . It was tiger mum central. I can tell did you go all pushy mum . It was tiger mum central. I can tell you | tiger mum central. I can tell you that for nothing. For those watching on Bbc World News well be right back. The former conservative Prime Minister David Cameron has told mps that his lobbying of the government on behalf of a now collapsed Financial Company did not break any rules. But during some uncomfortable questioning, he admitted his actions had not met the wider test of what was appropriate. Lets hear how he responded to a question from a Labour Member of the treasury select committee. Do you not feel that you have demeaned yourself and your position by whats happening your way around whitehall on the back of a fraudulent enterprise based on Selling Bonds at high rest at at investors. Mr; Selling Bonds at high rest at at investors. ~ , Selling Bonds at high rest at at investors Selling Bonds at high rest at at investors. G ,. , Selling Bonds at high rest at at investors. Y ,. ,. , investors. My view is what i did was make a choice investors. My view is what i did was make a choice to investors. My view is what i did was make a choice to work investors. My view is what i did was make a choice to work for investors. My view is what i did was make a choice to work for a investors. My view is what i did wasl make a choice to work for a business that i hope will be a uk fin tech success story. Many people thought it would now want to help that company grow and expand. What i did at the beginning of the crisis, was put to a government what i genuinely believed to be a good idea to get money into the hands of Small Businesses and get bills paid early. Panic buying is a weird phenomenon. At the start of the pandemic, it was toilet paper and Hand Sanitizer that couldnt be found. This week, at least here on the east coast, its been fuel. A cyber attack on Colonial Pipeline forced the company to shut down the main part of its network on friday. The hackers, said the fbi are linked to a group known as darkside, which specializes in digital extortion and is believed to be located somewhere in russia or Eastern Europe. Today the white house said colonial should be fully operational by the weekend which will, ease the pressure. But how theyre getting back online has raised further questions. Yes, Bloomberg News and the Washington Post reported today that colonial paid the hackers five Million Dollars in cyber currency a ransom on friday. The bbc has not been able to confirm this, but House Speaker nancy pelosi said, if true, it would send completely the wrong message. We dont want people to think that there is money in it for them to threaten the security of a Critical Infrastructure in our country. I dont know what the conversations were with the management of colonial, but i do think that there is a governance role in how we protect our people and our economy from these hackers. Joining us now is chris krebs, who served as director of the cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency. Hes now a partner at the krebs stamos group. Thank you so much for being with us. If this reporting is true and colonial did pay 5 million in Untraceable Cryptocurrency as a ransom, what kind of a president does that set . Ransom, what kind of a president does that set . Thank you for having me on. Does that set . Thank you for having me on we does that set . Thank you for having me on. Ive always does that set . Thank you for having me on. Ive always taken does that set . Thank you for having me on. Ive always taken a does that set . Thank you for having me on. Ive always taken a pretty i me on. Ive always taken a pretty strong me on. Ive always taken a pretty strong position against paying ransom. Strong position against paying ransom, principally forthree ransom, principally for three reasons ransom, principally forthree reasons. First is when you are doing a deal reasons. First is when you are doing a deal with reasons. First is when you are doing a deal with a reasons. First is when you are doing a deal with a credible and you are taking a deal with a credible and you are taking the a deal with a credible and you are taking the word that they will give you access your networks and not come you access your networks and not come back you access your networks and not come back again. The second is the Encryption Come Back again. The second is the Encryption Tools they provide provider Encryption Tools they provide provider always work. And the third is that provider always work. And the third is that by provider always work. And the third is that by paying ransom, you are in fact an is that by paying ransom, you are in fact an investor in a criminal enterprise. It is bad for a range of options. Enterprise. It is bad for a range of options, including public policy. Ultimately, it emboldens this raging digital ultimately, it emboldens this raging digital pandemic that we are seeing across digital pandemic that we are seeing across the digital pandemic that we are seeing across the layup and i really strongly across the layup and i really strongly recommend against paying. President strongly recommend against paying. President biden has signed an Executive Order to try and protect the nation against cyber attacks, but what does that do in practice . The first thing it does is. I the first thing it does is. Think we the first thing it does is. I think we have just lost him there. Chris has just froze in there, think we have just lost him there. Chris hasjust froze in there, but that was interesting what he was saying. That was interesting what he was sa inc. ,. , that was interesting what he was sa in. , that was interesting what he was sa inc. ,. , that was interesting what he was sa int. ,. , saying. Yes, why rob a bank when you can hide in eastern saying. Yes, why rob a bank when you can hide in Eastern Europe saying. Yes, why rob a bank when you can hide in Eastern Europe or can hide in Eastern Europe or somewhere else and bounce your ip address around. I dont if you just at the point i was making, but i was just saying that this, we seem to be behind the curve because why would you involve yourself in a crime that you could get caught for when you can hide behind the service . I when you can hide behind the service . ~. , when you can hide behind the service . ~. ,. , , service . I think there are a couple of other Things Service . I think there are a couple of other things Going Service . I think there are a couple of other things going on service . I think there are a couple of other things going on in service . I think there are a couple l of other things going on in western democracies to take a really hard look at democracies to take a really hard look at in democracies to take a really hard look at in the first is that these criminals look at in the first is that these criminals responsible are at least operating criminals responsible are at least operating under the roof of the federation of the russian government. They are allowing this and actually gives russian youth and teenagers and actually gives russian youth and teenagers gainful appointment, lee is back teenagers gainful appointment, lee is back home, so i think we need to take stronger action against russia. This is take stronger action against russia. This is really enabled by Crypto Currencv this is really enabled by crypto currency. It is outside the scope of other currency. It is outside the scope of other currency. I think we need to ensure other currency. I think we need to ensure that other currency. I think we need to ensure that they fall within the scope ensure that they fall within the scope of ensure that they fall within the scope of our traditional financial regulations. Scope of our traditional financial regulations scope of our traditional financial reuulations. ,. ,. , regulations. Chris, nowl am seeing American Football regulations. Chris, nowl am seeing american Football Players regulations. Chris, nowl am seeing american Football Players being american Football Players being asked to be paid in bitcoin. How do we regulate this and stop the criminals . We regulate this and stop the criminals . ,. , criminals . There are a number of different intersections criminals . There are a number of different intersections within criminals . There are a number of different intersections within the | different intersections within the traditional economy, whether its chaos, traditional economy, whether its chaos, Over The Counter Desks or exchange chaos, Over The Counter Desks or exchange wallets. Those of the Points Exchange wallets. Those of the points of exchange wallets. Those of the points of leverage that we have that we can points of leverage that we have that we can ensure that they comply with untie we can ensure that they comply with untie Money Laundering laws, counterterrorism and other Customer Requirements for example,. In the waning requirements for example,. In the waning months, at least here in the us, this waning months, at least here in the us, this is waning months, at least here in the us, this is something that should be taken us, this is something that should be taken up us, this is something that should be taken up it us, this is something that should be taken up. It starts with transparency of the Transaction Process transparency of the Transaction Process and also, going back to ransomware, we dont. There was no reguiring ransomware, we dont. There was no reguiring for ransomware, we dont. There was no requiring for colonial to alert the government that they eh had a ransomware than and be they paid the Ransonm Ransomware Than and be they paid the ransom. That needs to change. They need ransom. That needs to change. They need to ransom. That needs to change. They need to seek ransom. That needs to change. They need to seek approval from the government to make those payments. If government to make those payments. If you government to make those payments. If you want government to make those payments. If you want an estimate just how quickly this is increasing of a problem. 311 increase in 2020 in this ransomware activity. Extorting 350 million us dollars. It is profitable, really profitable. Apparently the company that exports, they have a reception you can bring up they have a reception you can bring up and get through to people and negotiate. Up and get through to people and neuotiate. , up and get through to people and negotiate. Among up and get through to people and negotiate. Among the negotiate. Incredible. Among the wettest places negotiate. Incredible. Among the wettest places today, negotiate. Incredible. Among the wettest places today, devon negotiate. Incredible. Among the wettest places today, devon and| wettest places today, devon and southern parts of wales and many other areas caught downpours. Heres a good news for tomorrow. The weather is looking more lively. That meant less lively. Some showers and cracks of thunder, but on the whole not quite the wash out that we had today in some southern and south western areas. The forecast for tonight shows further showers dying away in the south, then i think it is a case of low, great Cloud Drifting in and frost free tonight. Temperatures whether you are in the north or the south, between 6 degrees and 9 degrees. This is for friday, there is a Weather System approaching us, but that will not arrive until saturday. Friday is acquired today, not completely dry but after that really grey, Drizzly Starting places and murkiness as well, the sunshine will develop across western areas, but thatis develop across western areas, but that is also going to spark off some heavy showers, anywhere from western scotland, northern ireland, the Lake District and wales. Many central and eastern areas should have a dry day. It will be cloudy. Friday night to saturday, the Weather Front moves through and that will bring a spell of rain early in the morning on saturday and even once the Weather Front moves through your area, the chances are heavy showers will follow. This is what it looks like earlier in the day. Here is the Weather Front moving through. And then, the sunshine comes out and it helps to develop heavy showers, initially across wales in the south and then they showers in the day will spread northwards. A really volatile atmosphere atop of us during the weekend. Not to saturday, but throughout sunday as well. Add it to sunday, sunday is puppy going to be the day with the bigger showers and downpours and this unsettled weather is expected to last into the week ahead as well. Lets have a look into the next week and the outlook. This will change from day to day as the weather app on your smartphone continually updates the forecast with your individual location. Suffices to say, very unsettled. Youre watching bbc news with me Laura Trevelyan in washington. Christian fraser is in london. Our top stories. In israel the military is amassing its Troop Presence near gaza as the conflict with hamas enters its fourth night. Violence has also broken out in israeli towns between arab and jewish residents. As we approach the one Year Anniversary of George Floyds death President Biden calls on congress to Pass Police Reform in his memory. Also in the programme. 0n the Us Mexico Border detentions of undocumented immigrants in april were the highest recorded in 20 years well be speaking to a democratic congresswoman from texas. And christians been speaking to the godfather of shock rock alice cooper whos return to his hometown of detroit where hes just recorded a new album. An Eye Popping Figure was published this week. The number of people stopped at the us Mexican Border in april hit a 20 year high. And that number has been pushed upwards by single adults trying to enter america illegally. According to data from the us Customs Border and protection agency, over178,000 people were detained. 60 of those apprehended were expelled by Border Agents under special pandemic rules introduced by the us centers for disease control. And almost a third had been expelled before. Veronica escobar is the democratic congresswoman for texass 16th congressional district. She joins us from washington. Welcome to the programme. Of course, republicans are seizing on this figure to say that president joe bidens Border Policies are not working. But based on what you see in el paso, what is driving a Record Number of people to try them across the southern us border . Weill. Number of people to try them across the southern us border . The southern us border . Well, first of all, the southern us border . Well, first of all. Thank the southern us border . Well, first of all, thank you the southern us border . Well, first of all, thank you so the southern us border . Well, first of all, thank you so much the southern us border . Well, first of all, thank you so much for the southern us border . Well, first| of all, thank you so much for having me on your programme. It is a wonderful privilege to be with you, to talk about the reality that is happening on a southern border of the United States. This is not a new challenge and part of what we are living through is the consequences of decades of getting it wrong. This is democrats and republicans alike. Historically have only focused on order and enforcement only policies. Walls have been built, large numbers of personnel have been hired and all sorts of equipment, drones, etc. But theres never been a holistic view of what we need to do to better address immigration and do it in a humane way. A way to better manage numbers of people in the circumstances surrounding that. What circumstances surrounding that. What is drivin circumstances surrounding that. What is driving the circumstances surrounding that. What is driving the surge circumstances surrounding that. What is driving the surge was yellow not necessarily unusual as what im getting at. Necessarily unusual as what im getting at necessarily unusual as what im caettin at. ,. , getting at. And encounters are high. You have to getting at. And encounters are high. You have to take getting at. And encounters are high. You have to take into getting at. And encounters are high. You have to take into consideration, | you have to take into consideration, many are repeat folks, people have been expelled and are trying again. But the root causes of what theyre trying to get out right now. That is one facet of what we have to do. The second thing that we have to do in this is really on congress is enough to open up more legal pathways. But we have seen, especially since the Clinton Administration is a narrowing of those legal pathways and in some cases, a total elimination of those legal pathways. We should not be suppressed the more we do not address root causes and when we limit legal pathways, we are going to have the situation that we have today. Its going to take some time to finally address this in a way that the strategic and comprehensive, but i have full faith and what the Biden Administration is doing, but it is also on congress. In the house of representatives, we have already passed Immigration Legislation we have another comprehensive old bill that should be coming to the floor soon, but we need to have to send it to act as well. I need to have to send it to act as well. ,. , � need to have to send it to act as well. , i. � well. I get what youre saying. It does require well. I get what youre saying. It does require a well. I get what youre saying. It does require a holistic well. I get what youre saying. Itj does require a holistic approach. But you also have to police the border. Have a quote from michael fischer, he was the Border Patrol chief until 2016 and he said his agents are spending 40 less time patrolling and more on processing and making meals related to the increased numbers of families and children. Are there enough Border Guards to be able to police and patrolled the borders, to stop these single adults that are coming across . ,. ,. , across . There are enough border atrol across . There are enough Border Patrol personnel across . There are enough Border Patrol personnel but across . There are enough Border Patrol personnel but the across . There are enough border. Patrol personnel but the challenge that we have is we have allowed for this. We as a country in the congress, have not responded to the changing patterns of migration and we are treating families and children in the same way that we have treated single adults back in the 1980s. When people are putting concrete cells and thinking that thatis concrete cells and thinking that that is the way to address immigration, it is not. And i am absolutely in favour of allowing Border Patrol agents to perform their functions, Border Patrol agents to perform theirfunctions, but Border Patrol agents to perform their functions, but we Border Patrol agents to perform theirfunctions, but we have Border Patrol agents to perform their functions, but we have to re envision the way in which we address people coming at our front door. I have a piece of legislation that will be coming out soon that re envisions that. We have got to start using more civilian personnel to handle civilian type functions. We have also got to allow Asylum Seekers to seek asylum. It is Asylum Seekers to seek asylum. It is a legal process. And with a combination of approaches, there are a lot of resources that we have already allocated toward Border Patrol. We have to create a different kind of system that deals with this in a Human Welfare and a Child Welfare working through a Child Welfare working through a Child Welfare working through a Child Welfare Human Welfare mind. Talking about infrastructure, a big Infrastructure Problem in texas as well. Senior republicans, the chairs of committee who will sign off on the infrastructure plan, let me show our viewers how the society of engineering scores america for infrastructure. C is what they give america. 2. 6 trillion they think is required of the next decade. Wipe his neck because of things like this. This is a bridge near memphis over the mississippi and this is what they found the other day. An enormous crack in one of the girders under the bridge. That is the main arterial route over the mississippi. I suppose in a way, congresswoman, that emboldens the president s position, doesnt it . It that emboldens the president s position, doesnt it . That emboldens the president s position, doesnt it . It should. One ofthe position, doesnt it . It should. One of the things position, doesnt it . It should. One of the things that position, doesnt it . It should. One of the things that i position, doesnt it . It should. One of the things that i have position, doesnt it . It should. One of the things that i have long position, doesnt it . It should. One| of the things that i have long hoped we will have in common, republicans and democrats alike is a desire to help rebuild america. Past congresses have essentially allowed our infrastructure to fall into disrepair. There have been deferred maintenance, we have not made the investments necessary. This is our opportunity to finally do this and get it right. In the same way that i look at reforming immigration as an opportunity, i look at investing in our infrastructure as an opportunity and we can get people back to work. We can make investments in communities and we can rebuild in a way that is far more strategic that addresses the Climate Crisis as well. So, i have an tremendous amount of hope for this infrastructure stop by thank you so much forjoining us. This month will mark the one Year Anniversary of the death of george floyd. President joe biden has called on congress to pass major Police Reform in his memory. From minneapolis to louisville, the Justice Department has launched investigations into Police Practices resulting in the deaths of several minorities. 0ne Police Department that has benefitted from federal oversight in newark, newjersey. But will the changes last . Larry madowo takes up the story. This is not temporary protests. They call itjustice monday and it has been here every week for five years. Black people are being chilled like animals in the streets during the United States of america. The conflict with United States of america. The conflict with the United States of america. The conflict with the police dates back to the riots of 1967 and even before that. By 2010, policing and the perplexity was so broken that another investigation revealed many problematic patterns and practices. I feel like theyve got a personal vendetta i feel like theyve got a personal vendetta against black people. Entered vendetta against black people. Entered and what is known as the Consent Decree with newark. That is federal oversight of the police with an independent monitor to track progress. In 2020, Newark Police did not fire a single shot. People seem to trust the police a little more now. , j, y to trust the police a little more now. , ~. , to trust the police a little more now. , ~. ,. ,. , now. Everybody knows each other. You know where now. Everybody knows each other. You know where the now. Everybody knows each other. You know where the police now. Everybody knows each other. You know where the police live now. Everybody knows each other. 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He was elected onj the Police Reform platform and has supported the implementation of the Consent Degree over the last five years. Consent degree over the last five ears. �. , Consent Degree over the last five ears. ,. , � , years. Are crimes the lowest its been in 50 years. Are crimes the lowest its been in 50 years. Years. Are crimes the lowest its been in 50 years. And years. Are crimes the lowest its been in 50 years. And the been in 50 years. And the interesting thing about it is while crime is decreasing, so our arrests. Which proves to me that there is no causal relationship between arresting people in the reduction of crime. , , its crime. How expensive is this . Its too expensive crime. How expensive is this . Its too expensive. Its crime. How expensive is this . Its too expensive. Its incredibly too expensive. Its incredibly expensive. We pay may be over 2 million a year. Its expensive. We pay may be over 2 million a year million a year. Its about cost but it is also about million a year. Its about cost but it is also about culture. Million a year. Its about cost but it is also about culture. Why million a year. Its about cost but it is also about culture. Why it. Million a year. Its about cost but it is also about culture. Why it is | it is also about culture. Why it is so hard to reform policing in america is the so called blue wall of silence. An unofficial code where Law Enforcement officers protect each other. It is no different here in newark. I5 each other. It is no different here in newark each other. It is no different here in newark. , ~. ,. , in newark. Is like anything else, no one likes to in newark. Is like anything else, no one likes to be in newark. Is like anything else, no one likes to be looked in newark. Is like anything else, no one likes to be looked at in newark. Is like anything else, no one likes to be looked at or in newark. Is like anything else, no| one likes to be looked at or watched or investigated. Or investigated. Anthony ambrose worked in overhauling or investigated. Anthony ambrose worked in overhauling policing or investigated. Anthony ambrose worked in overhauling policing in i worked in overhauling policing in newark as a Public Safety director. He is retired over 35 years as a policeman. To make the escalation and use of force and the scrutiny of officers, we look at body worn cameras every day and our consent if, ithink it cameras every day and our consent if, i think it helps that we all came together and it helps. Police departments are watching federal investigations in louisville and that may require them to learn a new way to protect and serve. Weve all been dreaming about life after the pandemic. Seismic global events have a way of making us re think our lives , whats important, whats not, and what could change. You almost inspired me with your new years resolution laura, to plank for three minutes a day. But lets face it, thats aiming a bit high. Nonetheless, behavioral scientists tell us that now is the perfect time to start fresh, to seize the day, and maybe chart a new course in life. One such expert in this field is katy milkman, professor and behavioural scientist at the wharton school. Thank you for coming on. I suppose its never been a more perfect time to change it up. This is it, we should all be doing it, shouldnt we . ,. , should all be doing it, shouldnt| wlt . Have should all be doing it, shouldnt we . ,. , have ou we . This is the moment. Have you done it . Have we . This is the moment. Have you done it . Have l we . This is the moment. Have you done it . Have i done we . This is the moment. Have you done it . Have i done in . We . This is the moment. Have you done it . Have i done in . I we . This is the moment. Have you done it . Have i done in . I have done it . Have i done in . I have chanced done it . Have i done in . I have changed a done it . Have i done in . I have changed a lot done it . Have i done in . I have changed a lot of done it . Have i done in . I have changed a lot of things. Done it . Have i done in . I have changed a lot of things. For done it . Have i done in . I have| changed a lot of things. For me, done it . Have i done in . I have i changed a lot of things. For me, a big moment was when my sun went Back To School and school reopened here in the us and i was able to start some new exercise routines. There was a big one. I have not gone back to work it, theyll be another major fresh start for me. I to work it, theyll be another maor fresh start for med fresh start for me. I keep thinking i missed fresh start for me. I keep thinking i missed an fresh start for me. I keep thinking i missed an opportunity. Fresh start for me. I keep thinking i missed an opportunity. This i missed an opportunity. This progression of people who are doing Amazing Things through the pandemic and there will be some of us to think it is all too late. Weve missed the boat. Think it is all too late. Weve missed the boat. ,. , ,. , missed the boat. No, absolutely not. Our research missed the boat. No, absolutely not. Our research on missed the boat. No, absolutely not. Our research on the missed the boat. No, absolutely not. Our research on the fresh missed the boat. No, absolutely not. Our research on the fresh start our research on the fresh start effect shows that whatever moment you consider to be a new beginning because it is book ending when youre enclosing another, whether youre enclosing another, whether you have a child go Back To School or the moment when you first reunite with someone you havent seen a long time due to the pandemic, you can see is that motivation and try to use it as a moment we start setting new goals. Lots of people do this naturally around landmark dates. fiifi naturally around landmark dates. Ok, i sto ed naturally around landmark dates. Ok, i stopped eating sticky buns for breakfast during the pandemic because my Blood Sugar Levels going up because my Blood Sugar Levels going up and now that we do not have to wear masks and doors, werejust learning through the cdc, i can eat more sticky buns, how can i stick to this resolution was yellow stick to the resolution of not eating Sticky Bunsis the resolution of not eating sticky buns is a great question. Do the resolution of not eating sticky buns is a great question. Buns is a great question. Do you have any ideas buns is a great question. Do you have any ideas of buns is a great question. Do you have any ideas of what buns is a great question. Do you have any ideas of what might. Buns is a great question. Do you i have any ideas of what might work and it turns out the reason i ask is that by advising other people and how to achieve your goals, sometimes you can find success or so. Any ideas . What do you have in mind . I do not want to be shamed by my doctor telling me that ive got High Blood Sugar because im quite fond of him but i do not want to let them down. So, im going to endeavour to keep it up that way. Do you think that will work . Keep it up that way. Do you think that will work . ,. ,. ,. That will work . Shame works. When we are worried that that will work . Shame works. When we are worried that were that will work . Shame works. When we are worried that were going that will work . Shame works. When we are worried that were going to that will work . Shame works. When we are worried that were going to be are worried that were going to be penalised for some reason, that is a really highly motivating way to achieve our goals. You can make even more extreme other than being embarrassed about going to the doctor and being shamed there, you can literally put money on the line that you will forfeit to a charity that you will forfeit to a charity that you will forfeit to a charity that you hate. That is it strategy that you hate. That is it strategy that people use so they will not fail and to find a referee who will hold you accountable whether it is those that will let you use these kind of systems to penalise yourself about behaviour will be very motivating. About behaviour will be very motivating about behaviour will be very motivating. About behaviour will be very motivatina. ,. ,. , motivating. Something, they are not man obs motivating. Something, they are not many jobs out motivating. Something, they are not many jobs out there, motivating. Something, they are not many jobs out there, some motivating. Something, they are not many jobs out there, some of motivating. 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One interesting line of Research Shows that a reason why dont often make changes instead of looking for a fun way to achieve our goals, and a way that we will enjoy, we try to do the most effective way possible and that can be a drag. And if we choose a different approach, we try to make it fun, we linked something that is really tempting and enjoyable with going to the gym, like only allowing yourself to watch a favourite tv shows at the gym or doing some new chore that you can only eat your favourite snack while youre doing it, those things can be a hook that make us more likely to persist and follow through. Im make us more likely to persist and follow through. Make us more likely to persist and follow through. Im going to come to terms of the follow through. Im going to come to terms of the fact follow through. Im going to come to terms of the fact that follow through. Im going to come to terms of the fact that laura follow through. Im going to come to terms of the fact that laura is i terms of the fact that laura is trying to get me the plank while shes eating sticky buns for breakfast. Imjust shes eating sticky buns for breakfast. Im just going to let that settle for a second. Thank you for coming on the programme. The whole point is that i didnt eat sticky buns so plank, kristin. Just to get at the right way around. Still to come. Alice cooperjoins us to talk about his new album, rocking out in his 70s, and the possibility of a broadway musical. Police scotland have said they will release two men after a stand off between uk Immigration Officers and hundreds of protestors in glasgow. Immigration officers and Hundreds Demonstrators descended on a street to prevent a home office van from leaving with the men inside. Scotlands first minister called the action the uk governments action unacceptable. The Home Office Said the men had been detained over suspected the message from the protesters was clear. Two men in the van detained this morning by uk Immigration Enforcement should be released and there were no signs that those who gathered to block the vans path and even underneath it had any intentions of leaving until that happened. When your neighbour is in trouble, then you stand for your neighbour. This is what the people of glasgow are doing. Ijust live right next door, so these are my neighbours that are in the van at the moment. Ijust kind of came back after having a coffee and saw the Immigration Van and obviously, i was really worried. These scenes prompted nicola sturgeon, the first who is also the local msp to criticise the uk home office, saying their action today created a dangerous and unacceptable situation. The local mp also concerned. The way in which the home office are carrying out their business and removing people from their homes in the midst of a pandemic is completely unacceptable. This didnt have to happen today and im trying to get answers from the home office as to why this has gone ahead in the midst of a pandemic. Applause. Police scotland emphasised today that they did not assist in the removal of Asylum Seekers, but without to police the protest. In the removal of Asylum Seekers, but were there to police the protest. This afternoon, they said that to protect Public Safety and for Public Health, an operational decision had been taken to release the men detained by uk Immigration Enforcement back into the community in the meantime. The opening up of the van happened several hours after the scandal began, but the protesters eventually got their wish. In the late 1960s, a little known group the alice cooper band was flailing in los angeles. Their live shows emptied concert halls, their first two albums were pretty poorly received. But then, la wasnt yet ready for hard, guitar driven rock nroll. The alice cooper band would need to move somewhere else and detroit was a much betterfit. 1967 was the year of the detroit rebellion. A long, hot summer. Detroit was an Industrial City, full of noise, and already influenced by british bands like the who and the kinks. Their next album, love it to death, spawned alice coopers First National hit, im 18, and the rest as they say is history. He is the godfather of shock rock, the man who promised a nightmare and delivered it. And today 73 years of age he is still at it, with a new album detroit stories, that evokes all the spirit of that high energy, rocknroll. This album has had such good reviews it is full of songs that invoke a spirit of the 1960s, of detroit, of rock and roll. Why this and why now . You know, i am not an extremely nostalgic person, but this album, i know, i was going to make hard rock album. A very hard rock album. And my producer and i said that we cant do that for nashville, we cant do that that way, we cant do that in new york. We cant do that in la, we cant do that in new york. Detroit. Detroit is the home of hard rock so, and ijust happen to be from detroit, so we went back there and itjust started going from there and escalated into a project where, if we are going to do it in detroit, lets use all detroit players. Lets record it in detroit, lets really get the full detroit feel for this album. That is the point, because the trait was such an important part of the alice cooper story. Youd had a relative success in la, but when he went back to detroit, what was it about that city that was the catalyst for your career . It is one of those cities where it has always been a very Industrial City and all the cars were made there, everybody� s parents worked in the factories and there wasnt much sophistication. Everybody knew everybody and everybody liked their music to kind of sound like the machines where they worked every day in the factories. I think that it was a, no bs kind of city. They wanted their music to be that. Authentic . Yes, authentic and more in yourface. There was nothing very frilly about detroit. It was hard rock. Schools out for summer. Mark schools out forever. Schools been blown to pieces. I hope you dont mind me saying, you are 73. I mean, you look good on it, you look really good in it. But do you really still have the energy for it . For touring and doing an album like this . This is so funny. Ifeel like i am 40, at the most. One of the reasons as i quit drinking and drugs and everything 38 years ago. I have been married 45 years to the greatest lady in the world. Ive got great kids. There are no financial problems, my Spiritual Life is where i want it to be and so stress is what kills you. Stress is what makes you old and i am in two bands now. 73, i am in two bands now, 73, im in the Hollywood Vampires withjohnny depp and joe perry, who tour as much as my band and so i get off one tour and go right on the next one. I can do five shows a week. I was listening to a documentary with dolly parton recently and she was talking about how songs come to a, mainly when shes on a bus round or something happens to her in her life. Is that how it works you . To the songs just appear . Or do you really have to work at it . Yes, for me, i think of a concept first. Welcome to my nightmare. If you are going to say welcome to my nightmare, you better give the audience the nightmare. If i wasnt doing rock and roll, i would properly be writing for broadway. That is really interesting. I am trying to imagine alice cooper writing a broadway hit. Could you do that . I have actually been working for the last couple, well, for a while now with alan menken, who did all the music for all the disney things and for every disney movie that has ever been out there, alan menken has earned an Academy Award for it, so as a lyricist, i will go wherever the song needs to go, you know . The song is going to be a political song, i am not political, im very effectively not political. John lennon and i used the drink a lot together in the days and he always wanted me to get more political and i would say, john, you are trying to change the world, i am trying to entertain them. Weve had so many artists, just wait until the christmas party. You might get an invite, laura. Until the christmas party. You might getan invite, laura. I have until the christmas party. You might get an invite, laura. I have to say,. Christian was wearing, you are wearing a very boring sued during that interview. If i wanted to interview, i should that interview. If i wanted to interview, ishould have that interview. If i wanted to interview, i should have looked. We had some fun read my is taking redoing you, you look terrifying, you can have a retirementjob in florida as an alice cooper and person impersonator. I want to check it like that. Maybe ill do that for the pubs open up on monday. I like the pubs open up on monday. I like the eye makeup. Hello. Thursday for some of us was a write off following the really heavy rain, particularly across the southwest of the country. And heres the bottom line. For the next week or so, the bottom line. For the next week orso, not the bottom line. For the next week or so, not an awful lot is going to change. Its going to remain cool and very showering. And heres the reason. Thejet and very showering. And heres the reason. The jet stream and very showering. And heres the reason. Thejet stream is and very showering. And heres the reason. The jet stream is close to us, but also just south of us. It is the Dividing Line between the colour in the north and the warmer air in the south. With the jet stream fairly close to us, it is sending Weather Systems in our direction and that spells further rain. So, heres the forecast for friday. We are anticipating showers to break out across some western and southern areas, but it wont be quite as widespread during the course of us will enjoy some warmth to that sunshine. Temperatures will get around to about 16 degrees in the report. It will probably be a little bit cooler, close to the north sea coast. Heres the next Weather Front and it is pushed by thejet coast. Heres the next Weather Front and it is pushed by the jet stream, which is just to the south of us. Early hours of saturday morning likely to be some downpours and its going to be frost free, that is one thing. 10 degrees in london early on saturday and around seven in edinburgh. Low pressure purchases on saturday, the Weather Front crosses the country during the course of the morning and early afternoon and behind that with a friend, we will see some cooler air tucking in from the Northern Area and i will help build some Big Storm Cloud and so Thunder And Lightning and downpours in the day on saturday and they really will be quite widespread downpours and so notjust here and there, but some of us will get shower after shower, after shower. Probably in the very far north of scotland, we will see some sunshine. Into sunday, the low pressure still with us and it is right over us on sunday. And when you are in the centre of the low pressure in the centre of the low pressure in the centre is around about here on sunday. The showers will be even more vigorous. Big storm clouds forming and we will see that real rush across the uk. Temperatures will struggle where the downpours are almost frequent, may be 12 degrees and a little bit of sunshine of around 14 or 15. Centre of low pressure is in the north sea on monday and in the wake of that low pressure, further showers and its going to be a very changeable day. The thinking is probably towards the west on monday, but the weather will start to improve. 0n west on monday, but the weather will start to improve. On monday night into tuesday, this is a Weather Pattern and we can see the isobars coming in from the north and tucking into the uk, Moving Southwards and thatis into the uk, Moving Southwards and that is where the air is coming from. The arrows coming from the Northern Area, swirling around ireland and in the uk, that is a hint of the chilly air coming from the north and if you add the chilly air with the sunshine, you get more storm clouds and that is where the pattern is next week. Because of the jet stream and surprise, surprise. Its to the south of us next week, but also very close to us. That means that the Weather Fronts will be heading our way and further rain is expected. 0n be heading our way and further rain is expected. On no day is going to be exactly the same because Weather Fronts are not one coherent light of rain, they come in waves. But certainly will see pressure arriving over the course of next week, bringing further unsettled weather and blustery conditions too. In summary, these are the kinds of clouds we can expect next week. Cumulonimbus clouds, Thunder And Lightning and so thats the food for thought, not for your barbecue. Tonight at ten. The government announces new measures to tackle a rise in the Indian Coronavirus Variant in the uk. A Surge Rapid Response Team is being deployed in bolton. Across the uk, the number of cases has more than doubled in a week. Bolton has the most new infections particularly among the young. The speed of infections is said to be concerning. It is a variant of concern, we are anxious about it,