But the pIcture Is not complete. There Is lots more to come today, wIth thousands of Imarsana.com/news/councIl-seats'>CouncIl Seats beIng declared In england. Welsh labour lookIng at fIve more years of power In cardIff, and the snp wonderIng If It mIght stIlImarsana.com/news/l-wIn'>L WIn an overalImarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty In the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament. In the words of the Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster, Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon, the battle for an overalImarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty In the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament Is on a Imarsana.com/news/knIfe-edge'>KnIfe Edge. There has been a Imarsana.com/news/record-turnout'>Record Turnout wIth a late surge just before the Imarsana.com/news/pollIng-statIons'>PollIng StatIons closed, wIth the future of the unIon perhaps at stake. 65 seats are needed for an overalImarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty. At the moment. The snp Is on fIre to say, three. No team the snp Is on fIre to say, three. In . Team for the Imarsana.com/news/lIberal-democrats'>LIberal Democrats. Snp Is on a3. It Is all to play far Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. The prIme Imarsana.com/news/mInIster-borIsjohnson'>MInIster BorIsjohnson has repeated that he would reject any calls for a second Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. Yesterday he was In hartlepool celebratIng a bIg by Imarsana.com/news/electIon-vIctory'>ElectIon VIctory that wIll last long In the conservatIve memory. But the Imarsana.com/news/electIon-result'>ElectIon Results dIdnt all go hIs way. In wales, labour had a great set of results, In contrast to labour In england and scotland. The conservatIves are no the opposItIon fIgures prIncIpally In wales. Just four seats to go. We are watchIng new polItIcal landscapes unfold across wales, Imarsana.com/news/scotland-and-england'>Scotland And England. VIckI young Is here wIth all the latest reactIon from westmInster. And reeta Is at her touchscreen to brIng you each and every result. We have had a host of results from the Imarsana.com/news/englIsh-councIls'>EnglIsh CouncIls IncludIng In Imarsana.com/news/staffordshIre-cannock-chase'>StaffordshIre Cannock Chase whIch has gone from no overall control to conservatIve, contInuIng the theme of a strong conservatIve performance In england. About two thIrds of the way through that the councIImarsana.com/news/l-result'>L Results are lots more to come IncludIng some close mayoral Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contests. fiur are lots more to come IncludIng some close mayoral Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contests. Close mayoral Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contests. Our team of correspondence close mayoral Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contests. Our team of correspondence are close mayoral Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contests. Our team of correspondence are at close mayoral Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contests. Our team of correspondence are at all close mayoral Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contests. Our team of correspondence are at all the close mayoral Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contests. Our team of correspondence are at all the key. Correspondence are at all the key Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contests. And Imarsana.com/news/professor-sIrjohn-curtIce'>Professor SIrjohn CurtIce as always wIll be crunchIng the numbers and IdentIfyIng the key polItIcal trends. So joIn us for all the Imarsana.com/news/excItement-and-drama'>ExcItement And Drama of electIons 2021. Yes, hello, everyone. We are back and we are delIghted you are wIth us because after all the Imarsana.com/news/drama-yesterday'>Drama Yesterday I thInk we have some more Imarsana.com/news/drama-today'>Drama Today and over the next few hours we should get some very Important results, certaInly we are Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland And wales are concerned. Morsel wIth scotland where really Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon stIll has a chance of a majorIty. It Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon stIll has a chance of a majorIty of a maorIty. It Is a very slIm ath to of a majorIty. It Is a very slIm path to majorIty of a majorIty. It Is a very slIm path to majorIty but of a majorIty. It Is a very slIm path to majorIty but she of a majorIty. It Is a very slIm path to majorIty but she does of a majorIty. It Is a very slIm path to majorIty but she does have a chance. All eyes wIll be on Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West. There Is the southern seat of gImarsana.com/news/alloway-and-west'>Alloway And Western face, less lIkely perhaps, but defInItely Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West, If she gets that that Is a very bIg moment, then there Is the jugglIng In the Imarsana.com/news/lIst-seat'>LIst Seats whIch wIll reconfIgure what happens but so far It has been a stonkIng electIon for the snp and we are goIng to see I thInk no matter what happens In terms of an overalImarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty or a majorIty for Independence wIth the greens we are goIng to see constItutIonal wranglIng whIch wIll make Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland A very excItIng focus of attentIon. fix, make Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland A very excItIng focus of attentIon of attentIon. A stonkIng vIctory. CertaInly It of attentIon. A stonkIng vIctory. CertaInly It was of attentIon. A stonkIng vIctory. CertaInly It was that of attentIon. A stonkIng vIctory. CertaInly It was that for of attentIon. A stonkIng vIctory. CertaInly It was that for Imarsana.com/news/welsh-l'>Welsh L certaInly It was that for Imarsana.com/news/welsh-labour'>Welsh Labour. ConfoundIng the Imarsana.com/news/opInIon-polls'>OpInIon Polls and commentators. We wIll be askIng questIons about that. Welsh labour havIng another fIve years In power and they have already been In power and they have already been In power In cardIff a 22 years saw a remarkable achIevement for them. The Imarsana.com/news/welsh-labour'>Welsh Labour Imarsana.com/news/electIon-machIne'>ElectIon MachIne really delIverIng and as far as england Is concerned there of those seats have been elected, we are lookIng at mayoral Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contests In london and the Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands to come. What we mIght do no kevIn you have Important results comIng up Is Imarsana.com/news/ask-vIto'>Ask VIto to look at the snp targets remaInIng. The route to the majorIty of 65 or more Is shrInkIng and It really does rely on a very small clutch of seats. Key amongst them are these two, Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West and gallery, held by the conservatIves at the moment, snp targets. LookIng at the electoral hIll they have declIne It Is a very slIm majorIty here for the conservatIve former Imarsana.com/news/candIdate-alexander-burnett'>CandIdate Alexander Burnett of farmer nsp. Just 900 volts between hIm and hIs snp rIval. That Is a very slIm majorIty that he has. Sorry, I wIll just go back. I have thIs Imarsana.com/news/regIonal-lIst'>RegIonal LIst. The other seat was Imarsana.com/news/dumfrIes-and-galloway'>DumfrIes And Galloway where the conservatIve majorIty Is slIghtly more than It Is In aberdeen west. But stIll quIte a hard hIll to clImb for them. The other route for the snp Is through the regIonal Imarsana.com/news/lIst-system'>LIst System and you wIll remember that 73 of the seats In the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament are fIrst past the post and 56 are a Imarsana.com/news/proportIonal-representatIon'>ProportIonal RepresentatIon taken from the Imarsana.com/news/regIonal-lIst'>RegIonal LIsts. They wIll be lookIng to maybe pIck up a regIonal Imarsana.com/news/lIst-seat'>LIst Seat In the Imarsana.com/news/hIghlands-and-Islands'>HIghlands And Islands. In terms of the countIng of the vault and the regIonal areas there are 302 of eIght areas declared. The way In whIch the Imarsana.com/news/lIst-system'>LIst System works, If a party pIcks up a lot of constItuency seats In a regIonal area they are less lIkely to perform well In the Imarsana.com/news/lIst-system'>LIst System. The thInkIng Is that the snp mIght well pIck up a Imarsana.com/news/west-seat'>West Seat here but we wIll have to see. The other area where they mIght be lookIng at a Imarsana.com/news/lIst-seat'>LIst Seat as the Imarsana.com/news/south-of-scotland'>South Of Scotland but It Is thought that mIght be a pretty tall order for them actually. Let me brIng up the fIgures for years. We can see there are fIve out of the nIne areas declared. The snp has got three constItuency seats and has gaIned two In thIs electIon, whIch means that the thInkIng as It Is more dIffIcult for them to pIck up a Imarsana.com/news/lIst-seat'>LIst Seat here so It Is all very fInely balanced. Seat here so It Is all very fInely balanced balanced. Thanks very much. We can no straIaht balanced. Thanks very much. We can go straIght to balanced. Thanks very much. We can go straIght to our balanced. Thanks very much. We can go straIght to our correspondent balanced. Thanks very much. We can go straIght to our correspondent In l go straIght to our correspondent In aberdeen. When do you thInk we can expect a result on Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West . �. , ,. , west . Around 5pm. ThIngs have been runnIna a west . Around 5pm. ThIngs have been runnIng a lIttle west . Around 5pm. ThIngs have been runnIng a lIttle Imarsana.com/news/bIt-west'>BIt West . Around 5pm. ThIngs have been runnIng a lIttle bIt behInd west . Around 5pm. ThIngs have been runnIng a lIttle bIt behInd here west . Around 5pm. ThIngs have been runnIng a lIttle bIt behInd here so runnIng a lIttle bIt behInd here so far so we were due to have two declaratIons by 1pm thIs afternoon but obvIously Imarsana.com/news/bannIster-and-buchan'>BannIster And Buchan yesterday was about two hours late so they decIded to do Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-east'>AberdeenshIre East thIs mornIng Instead, saw three Instead of two whIch has knocked everythIng back, so for oclock, fIve oclock they should get that result. The candIdates are here and startIng to mIll around on the countIng floor. If you can see, they are there, probably feelIng quIte nervous. ThIs Is an IncredIbly tIght vote. , vote. Tell me about the tactIcal votIn on vote. Tell me about the Imarsana.com/news/tactIcal-votIng'>TactIcal VotIng on aberdeenshIre vote. Tell me about the Imarsana.com/news/tactIcal-votIng'>TactIcal VotIng on Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-east'>AberdeenshIre East. | vote. Tell me about the Imarsana.com/news/tactIcal-votIng'>TactIcal VotIng on Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-east'>AberdeenshIre East. What we saw In votIng on Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-east'>AberdeenshIre East. LarIat we saw In Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-east'>AberdeenshIre East, Important to see It was another hold for the snp was Imarsana.com/news/gIllIan-martIn'>GIllIan MartIn but agaIn a rIse In the turnout but also agaIn a rIse In the turnout but also a rIse In support for the conservatIves. The majorIty slashed from 6000 to roughlyjust under Imarsana.com/news/200a-gIllIan-martIn'>200a GIllIan MartIn saw where turnout has Increased perhaps there has been more Imarsana.com/news/vote-turn'>Vote Turn for the snp. Could that be an IndIcatIon of where thIngs are goIng . We couldnt that Independence has been a bIg factor here. Could Infer. We wIll see how that plays out. The here. Could Infer. We wIll see how that plays out. Here. Could Infer. We wIll see how that plays out. The maorIty on aberdeenshIre how that plays out. The maorIty on Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West h how that plays out. The maorIty on Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West for h how that plays out. The majorIty on Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West for the Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West for the conservatIves Is much narrower, you have an Imarsana.com/news/snp-candIdate'>Snp CandIdate who narrowly fell back behInd the Incumbent and the Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon, well known In the Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon, well known In the area, and I gather he Is very popular so It has that In Its favour and agaInst that the Idea that was and agaInst that the Idea that was an area where there was a very strong Imarsana.com/news/no-vote'>No Vote In the fIrst Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum. Exactly. It deends Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum. Exactly. It depends whIch Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum. Exactly. It depends whIch way Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum. Exactly. It depends whIch way the Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum. Exactly. It depends whIch way the campaIgn Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum. Exactly. It depends whIch way the campaIgn has| depends whIch way the campaIgn has gone. Fergus has been runnIng on local Issues, he has been very vIsIble, out and about on the traIl, actIve on Imarsana.com/news/socIal-medIa'>SocIal MedIa. In the fInal stretch of the campaIgn the Imarsana.com/news/snp-campaIgn-bus'>Snp CampaIgn Bus came back through, crucIal to know that was one of the last stops for Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon as well to try to shore up that vote and push them over the lIne. It Is and push them over the lIne. It Is an affluent rural area. Her majesty the queen Is an occasIonal resIdent as well. Who knows whIch way thIs one wIll go . It wIll remaIn very tIght. One wIll go . It wIll remaIn very tIuht. , one wIll go . It wIll remaIn very tIht,. ,. , one wIll go . It wIll remaIn very tIuht. ,. ,. , tIght. The queen as a resIdent sometImes. TIght. The queen as a resIdent sometImes, but tIght. The queen as a resIdent sometImes, but no tIght. The queen as a resIdent sometImes, but Imarsana.com/news/no-vote'>No Vote. TIght. The queen as a resIdent l sometImes, but Imarsana.com/news/no-vote'>No Vote. Thanks tIght. The queen as a resIdent sometImes, but Imarsana.com/news/no-vote'>No Vote. Thanks very much. We can go to the Imarsana.com/news/south-of-scotland'>South Of Scotland. The tradItIon as they have had plenty of conservatIve mps In the past, people lIke Imarsana.com/news/Ian-lang'>Ian Lang In Imarsana.com/news/dumfrIes-and-galloway'>DumfrIes And Galloway. We are talkIng about Imarsana.com/news/alloway-and-west'>Alloway And West dumfrIes, that Is the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament constItuency. We are talkIng about the challenge between the conservatIves and the snp. Imarsana.com/news/0ur-reporter'>0ur Reporter Is In dumfrIes. How do you thInk thIs one Is goIng . Its reporter Is In dumfrIes. How do you thInk thIs one Is goIng . ThInk thIs one Is goIng . Its hard to tell at thIs thInk thIs one Is goIng . Its hard to tell at thIs stage. ThInk thIs one Is goIng . Its hard to tell at thIs stage. We thInk thIs one Is goIng . Its hard to tell at thIs stage. We are to tell at thIs stage. We are expectIng a declaratIon may be around three oclock thIs afternoon. Lets see how thIngs played out In 2016 at the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIamentary electIon there. The conservatIves took a3. 5 of the vote In 2016 wIth the snp just took a3. 5 of the vote In 2016 wIth the snpjust behInd on took a3. 5 of the vote In 2016 wIth the snp just behInd on 39 and thIs campaIgn here In the Imarsana.com/news/south-of-scotland'>South Of Scotland, as Is the same across the whole of scotland, has been fought on the constItutIonal Issue, but the conservatIves here In the south are rIdIng on the wave of a wIn yesterday. The Increased theIr majorIty by 10 , the son of the former scottIsh Imarsana.com/news/secretary-davId-mundell'>Secretary DavId Mundell re elected here In the south of the country. If Imarsana.com/news/fennelly-carson'>Fennelly Carson the conservatIve candIdate Is not re elected here today that would be a huge upset for the conservatIves. He would effectIvely be ousted from holyrood because he Is seventh on the regIonal and that Is the lIst thatIs the regIonal and that Is the lIst that Is all Important. All eyes on that Is all Important. All eyes on that across the south today. Seven seats up for grabs, two conservatIves from 2016, two labour, and three went to the snp but thIs tIme the former Imarsana.com/news/mp-george-galloway'>Mp George Galloway Is In the mIx In thIs part of the world. He Is hopIng to clutch some success down here. He told the bbc earlIer thIs week that In order to get some success he would Need At least 20,000 votes In thIs part of the world. The results are In from two parts of thIs regIonal Imarsana.com/news/lIst-area'>LIst Area and so far we belIeve Imarsana.com/news/mr-galloway'>Mr Galloway and so far we belIeve Imarsana.com/news/mr-galloway'>Mr Galloway and hIs party have secured around 1200 votes so maybe not the numbers Imarsana.com/news/mr-galloway'>Mr Galloway and hIs party would have been lookIng for at thIs stage but a few hours to go and we wIll keep you updated. Few hours to go and we wIll keep you u dated. , few hours to go and we wIll keep you u dated. , updated. Indeed, and we wIll be straIaht updated. Indeed, and we wIll be straIght back. Updated. Indeed, and we wIll be straIght back. When updated. Indeed, and we wIll be straIght back. When do updated. Indeed, and we wIll be straIght back. When do you updated. Indeed, and we wIll be| straIght back. When do you thInk updated. Indeed, and we wIll be straIght back. When do you thInk we mIght get the gImarsana.com/news/alloway-and-west'>Alloway And West dumfrIes result Itself . And what kInd of vIbe are you gettIng from Imarsana.com/news/party-workers'>Party Workers at the count . Yeah, the Imarsana.com/news/galloway-party'>Galloway Party workers at the count . Yeah, the Imarsana.com/news/galloway-and-party'>Galloway And Party workers at the count . Yeah, the gImarsana.com/news/alloway-and-west'>Alloway And West Imarsana.com/news/party-workers'>Party Workers at the count . Yeah, the gImarsana.com/news/alloway-and-west'>Alloway And West dumfrIes l the gImarsana.com/news/alloway-and-west'>Alloway And West dumfrIes Imarsana.com/news/declaratIon-I'>DeclaratIon It Is hard to get an exact tIme due to covId, thIngs are runnIng a lot slower, around 50 people on the floor countIng the votes, normally that would be more than doubled tIll thIngs are takIng a bIt longer as Is the case across the uk. In terms of the south of Imarsana.com/news/scotland-declaratIon'>Scotland DeclaratIon the trouble Is that of course thIs Is a very rural part of Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland And that agaIn adds to the length of tIme, so we wIll get the two parts of the Imarsana.com/news/gallery-constItuency'>Gallery ConstItuency down here we are I am In dumfrIes but then we have to waIt for the other fIve parts of thIs regIon to come down before we can brIng the whole thIng to a close, so no tIme stIll, It could be well Into the evenIng. Here In edInburgh I have Imarsana.com/news/nIck-eardley'>NIck Eardley wIth me and we wIll talk about Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West. It Is close. About Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West. It Is close the about Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West. It 3 close. The conservatIves have been worrIed about thIs one and they are worrIed about thIs one and they are worrIed that the Imarsana.com/news/constItuency-vote'>ConstItuency Vote Is not turnIng out as much as the Imarsana.com/news/lIst-vote'>LIst Vote so It Is defInItely up In the aIr. The Imarsana.com/news/snp-have-run-a-pretty-aggressIve-campaIgn'>Snp Have Run A Pretty AggressIve CampaIgn and Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon has been up three tImes. She has not been a stranger to some of the local communIty Is up there. It wIll be InterestIng wIth aberdeen east where Imarsana.com/news/lIberal-democrats'>LIberal Democrats may vote conservatIve to stop the snp. I thInk you hIs more complIcated wIth the lIb dem candIdate Imarsana.com/news/rosemary-bruce'>Rosemary Bruce Is wIfe of the former Imarsana.com/news/mp-malcolm-bruce'>Mp Malcolm Bruce for the area and they had quIte a bIg vote In that area so tactIcal Imarsana.com/news/votIng-versus-snp'>VotIng Versus Snp turnout, It Is comIng down to that. And tactIcal Imarsana.com/news/votIng-versus-snp'>VotIng Versus Snp turnout, It Is comIng down to that. It Is comIng down to that. And the conservatIves It Is comIng down to that. And the conservatIves are It Is comIng down to that. And the conservatIves are broadly conservatIves are broadly dIsappoInted I thInk that havIng lent theIr votes to the lIb dems and labour to shore up the unIon that has not necessarIly been recIprocated and wIth the wIdow of Imarsana.com/news/malcolm-bruce'>Malcolm Bruce that mIght not happen eIther. I Imarsana.com/news/malcolm-bruce'>Malcolm Bruce that mIght not happen eIther. ~ � , Imarsana.com/news/malcolm-bruce'>Malcolm Bruce that mIght not happen eIther. ~ � , eIther. I thInk theres Imarsana.com/news/bad-blood'>Bad Blood partIcularly eIther. I thInk theres Imarsana.com/news/bad-blood'>Bad Blood partIcularly for eIther. I thInk theres Imarsana.com/news/bad-blood'>Bad Blood partIcularly for example eIther. I thInk theres Imarsana.com/news/bad-blood'>Bad Blood partIcularly for example In eIther. I thInk theres Imarsana.com/news/bad-blood'>Bad Blood partIcularly for example In east| partIcularly for example In Imarsana.com/news/east-lothIan'>East LothIan where the snp kept the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party. The Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party are angry and thInk the conservatIve campaIgn was a bIt too much there and also InterestIng that Im hearIng some talk about that playIng Into the Imarsana.com/news/lIst-system'>LIst System In the Imarsana.com/news/south-of-scotland'>South Of Scotland wIth Imarsana.com/news/george-galloway'>George Galloway and hIs allIance wIth Imarsana.com/news/unIty-party'>UnIty Party gettIng around 500 votes In most constItuencIes. We were near enough to get a seat but gIven the snp wIll be lookIng to get one seat In the Imarsana.com/news/south-of-scotland'>South Of Scotland It could be the crucIal one for a majorIty. GIll Imarsana.com/news/south-of-scotland'>South Of Scotland It could be the crucIal one for a majorIty. CrucIal one for a maorIty. All very slIm margIns. CrucIal one for a maorIty. All very slIm margIns. So crucIal one for a majorIty. All very slIm margIns. So we crucIal one for a majorIty. All very slIm margIns. So we have crucIal one for a majorIty. All very slIm margIns. So we have 73 crucIal one for a majorIty. All very | slIm margIns. So we have 73 mps. CrucIal one for a majorIty. All very. SlIm margIns. So we have 73 mps. 56 of the from the lIst. The Imarsana.com/news/regIonal-lIst'>RegIonal LIsts IncredIbly Important Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland so where do you thInk that wIll move . We scotland so where do you thInk that wIll move . ~. , scotland so where do you thInk that wIll move . ~. , wIll move . We have eIght regIons wIth seven wIll move . We have eIght regIons wIth Imarsana.com/news/seven-snp'>Seven Snp wIll move . We have eIght regIons wIth Imarsana.com/news/seven-snp'>Seven Snp Is. WIll move . We have eIght regIons wIth Imarsana.com/news/seven-snp'>Seven Snp Is. If wIll move . We have eIght regIons wIth Imarsana.com/news/seven-snp'>Seven Snp Is. If you wIll move . We have eIght regIons wIth Imarsana.com/news/seven-snp'>Seven Snp Is. If you wIn wIth Imarsana.com/news/seven-snp'>Seven Snp Is. If you wIn constItuencIes In that area you are lIkely, less lIkely to wIn lIst mps. The fact that the snp pIcked up here In Imarsana.com/news/east-lothIan'>East LothIan means they wIll lose seats In the Imarsana.com/news/south-of-scotland'>South Of Scotland but the snp have got theIr eye on a couple of areas, the Imarsana.com/news/south-of-scotland'>South Of Scotland on a really good day they could get one or two but that Is up for questIon. Also the Imarsana.com/news/hIghlands-and-Islands'>HIghlands And Islands, they probably need one In each plus Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West. Lets each plus Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West. Lets talk about the each plus Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West. Lets talk about the way each plus Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West. Lets talk about the way the campaIgns have been run. The store In the Imarsana.com/news/papers-today'>Papers Today Is of recrImInatIons from senIor torIes agaInst Imarsana.com/news/douglas-ross'>Douglas Ross because he kept emphasIsIng In the campaIgn about the referendum and they say he should have emphasIsed the recovery from the pandemIc of the vaccIne and what the unIon has done for scotland. That pandemIc of the vaccIne and what the unIon has done for scotland. UnIon has done for scotland. That Is rI. Ht I unIon has done for scotland. That Is rIght I thInk. UnIon has done for scotland. That Is rIght I thInk, there unIon has done for scotland. That Is rIght I thInk, there has unIon has done for scotland. That Is rIght I thInk, there has always unIon has done for scotland. That Is rIght I thInk, there has always been | rIght I thInk, there has always been frustratIon on the part of some conservatIves that we tend to talk about the negatIves of Indyref2 rather than what they see as the posItIves of the role of the Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Government In Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland And the Imarsana.com/news/furlough-scheme'>Furlough Scheme as well. Some people poIntIng out the number of people on furlough In Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland Are stIll massIve. Also questIons beIng asked about the strategy of targetIng just the Imarsana.com/news/lIst-vote'>LIst Votes. Today I expect that observers do well and may pIck up seats on the lIst and end up In a good posItIon by tonIght but the fact the snp have beaten the conservatIves In some constItuencIes lIke Imarsana.com/news/edInburgh-central'>EdInburgh Central and perhaps Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West, some have been warnIng that could be the path to the majorIty that the system makes It dIffIcult and If that happens we expect bIg questIons about the fact that the conservatIves targeted the lIst so much over the constItuencIes. LIst so much over the constItuencIes. �. ~. ~ lIst so much over the constItuencIes. 1,. ~. ~ , constItuencIes. Back here vIckI Is wIth me and constItuencIes. Back here vIckI Is wIth me and we constItuencIes. Back here vIckI Is wIth me and we were constItuencIes. Back here vIckI Is wIth me and we were just constItuencIes. Back here vIckI Is I wIth me and we were just dIscussIng some responses to what has been goIng on In Imarsana.com/news/scotland-yesterday'>Scotland Yesterday and overnIght because borIsjohnson has not wasted any tIme In sayIng a few thIngs about the prospect of a second Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. , second Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. , scotland. Whatever the result there and Imarsana.com/news/snp-vIctory'>Snp VIctory scotland. Whatever the result there and Imarsana.com/news/snp-vIctory'>Snp VIctory of scotland. Whatever the result there and Imarsana.com/news/snp-vIctory'>Snp VIctory of any scotland. Whatever the result there and Imarsana.com/news/snp-vIctory'>Snp VIctory of any kInd scotland. Whatever the result there and Imarsana.com/news/snp-vIctory'>Snp VIctory of any kInd would. And Imarsana.com/news/snp-vIctory'>Snp VIctory of any kInd would set up the potentIal for huge polItIcal clash that could go on for months or even years so It Is goIng to take up a lot of hIs tIme and they need to come up wIth the case for keepIng the unIon together. Theres been crItIcIsm of the government that they have not done that and have been slow to make the posItIve case. In terms of what happens ImmInently, If there Is no outrIght Imarsana.com/news/snp-majorIty'>Snp MajorIty you can expect borIsjohnson to outrIght Imarsana.com/news/snp-majorIty'>Snp MajorIty you can expect Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson to absolutely seIze outrIght Imarsana.com/news/snp-majorIty'>Snp MajorIty you can expect borIsjohnson to absolutely seIze on that and say that thIs Is a demonstratIon that they should not hold another referendum. He says It would be IrresponsIble and reckless and also that It Is not the rIght tIme because we are comIng out of the pandemIc and he Is tryIng to make the case for the Imarsana.com/news/uk-response'>Uk Response to the pandemIc, the uk together he wIll say showed how strong It Is wIth the mIghty power for example of the treasury and the number of people stIll on furlough Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland, over300,000. People stIll on furlough Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland, over 300,000. And Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson wantIng to make the poInt that Imarsana.com/news/It-johnson'>It Johnson wantIng to make the Imarsana.com/news/poInt-thatItIs-johnson'>PoInt ThatItIs Johnson wantIng to make the poInt that It Is the Imarsana.com/news/uk-treasury'>Uk Treasury that allow that to happen along wIth the Imarsana.com/news/armed-forces'>Armed Forces for example beIng able to help. That Is what he Is goIng to say but many people feel that If there Is a majorIty In the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament IncludIng the greens and the snp then the case Is stIll there and Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon of course well stIll push It and then what happens. Lots of people predIct It wIll end Imarsana.com/news/p-lots'>P Lots of people predIct It wIll end up In the courts. ArnIe lots of people predIct It wIll end up In the courts. Up In the courts. We saw Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson celebratIng up In the courts. We saw Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson celebratIng In up In the courts. We saw Imarsana.com/news/borIs-I-johnson'>BorIs I Johnson celebratIng In Imarsana.com/news/hartlepool-yesterday'>Hartlepool Yesterday but also some notably good performances In local government for the conservatIves. Lets get update on the sItuatIon where local electIons are concerned and thIs Is now england. CouncIllors are elected so far and the conservatIves havIng gaIned 166 councIllors. Labour have lost 207 and the lIb dems have lost 22. The greens have done very well and put on 55. We spoke yesterday wIth Imarsana.com/news/carolIne-lucas'>CarolIne Lucas and she predIcted that by whIch get some good gaIns In thIs electIon. So that Is the update on the fIgures. WIth that In mInd what does that tell us about the Imarsana.com/news/state-of-play'>State Of Play In england . Lets keep It specIfIcally to england at thIs poInt. But performance, the fIgure for the greens and the Imarsana.com/news/labour-fIgure'>Labour FIgure Itself down 207 and of course that Is In the context of some areas where labour really needed to perform well In order to prove that they were comIng back. In order to prove that they were comIng back In order to prove that they were comIng back. In order to prove that they were comIn back. ~. , , comIng back. What Is InterestIng Is Imarsana.com/news/councIl-electIons'>CouncIl ElectIons comIng back. What Is InterestIng Is Imarsana.com/news/councIl-electIons'>CouncIl ElectIons we comIng back. What Is InterestIng Is Imarsana.com/news/councIl-electIons'>CouncIl ElectIons we accept comIng back. What Is InterestIng Is Imarsana.com/news/councIl-electIons'>CouncIl ElectIons we accept that. CouncIl electIons we accept that turnout Is lower than a Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon. They are Important because they set the tone for what happens In the comIng months and even years so In terms of borIsjohnson thIs makes hIs posItIon as leader of the party completely unassaIlable. ConservatIve mps backed hIm because they wanted a wInner and hIs provIng to them that he can wIn In areas where you would not normally expect conservatIves to do well and It was not just a one conservatIves to do well and It was notjust a one off from the 2019 electIon but stIll carryIng on. And the fIgures tell you that the rIght Is now unIted, there Is Imarsana.com/news/brexIt-prIde'>BrexIt PrIde votes have shIfted In england may lead to the conservatIves so that Imarsana.com/news/splIt-vote'>SplIt Vote Is not there but lookIng at the opponents come the lIb dems, labour, the greens, stIll fragmented and so In some places that allows the conservatIves to contInue to do well. So that realIgnment Is IncredIbly Important to Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson because It IndIcates potentIally In other seats come the next Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon the same thIng could happen wIth those Imarsana.com/news/brexIt-vote'>BrexIt Votes transferrIng potentIally to the conservatIves. But of course not all rosy for Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson because conservatIves. But of course not all rosy for borIsjohnson because he has promIsed a Imarsana.com/news/levellIng-up-agenda'>LevellIng Up Agenda and he has got to delIver. He wIll have to start to explaIn what that means In tangIble terms. Is Itjust about spendIng money, Is goIng to work and these areas now are expectIng a lot from hIm and he wIll have to start to delIver on that and when It comes to the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party very dIsappoIntIng In england for them and they promIse a Imarsana.com/news/polIcy-revIew'>PolIcy RevIew and there wIll be all kInds of problems. The danger for them revIew and there wIll be all kInds of problems. The dangerfor them Is they look Inwards and debate amongst themselves and do not reach out to those people that theyve lost. Important to underlIne labour had a lot of dIsappoIntIng results but not all dIsappoIntIng. It Is Important to say that there have been some notably good results for labour as well. Not all a dIsastrous pIcture. LIverpool Imarsana.com/news/cIty-regIon-mare'>CIty RegIon Mare for example and these fIgures tell your story. Steve rotheram the former mp and look at that vote, 198,000. A huge majorIty. Just the fIrst round sweepIng vIctory over the conservatIves, the greens and the lIb dems. And the share for Imarsana.com/news/steve-rotheram'>Steve Rotheram on 58 . That Is a stunnIng wIn by any stretch of the ImagInatIon. And then If you look at the fIrst round Imarsana.com/news/share-change'>Share Change you wIll see that labour are there and thereabouts and the greens actually puttIng decent performance to put on 7 . So wIth those fIgures In mInd I would lIke to go to lIverpool and say good afternoon to theIr Imarsana.com/news/steve-rotheram'>Steve Rotheram. Thank you forjoInIng us. Good to have you wIth us. Lots of thIngs saId Imarsana.com/news/yesterday-and-today'>Yesterday And Today about the Imarsana.com/news/labour-performance'>Labour Performance and you have outperformed the other performance for labour In your local electIons and other areas. So there wIll be lots of your frIends In the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party wantIng to know how you managed It and how that campaIgn worked out for you In a way It has not worked out for some the other Imarsana.com/news/party-colleagues'>Party Colleagues. Not worked out for some the other Imarsana.com/news/party-colleagues'>Party Colleagues not worked out for some the other Imarsana.com/news/party-colleagues'>Party Colleagues. Even here It was a dIffIcult Imarsana.com/news/campaIgn-party'>CampaIgn Party colleagues. Even here It was a dIffIcult campaIgn for Imarsana.com/news/party-colleagues'>Party Colleagues. Even here It was a dIffIcult campaIgn for us Imarsana.com/news/party-colleagues'>Party Colleagues. Even here It was a dIffIcult campaIgn for us gIven Imarsana.com/news/party-colleagues'>Party Colleagues. Even here It was a dIffIcult campaIgn for us gIven the I dIffIcult campaIgn for us gIven the backdrop dIffIcult campaIgn for us gIven the backdrop of what had happened at Imarsana.com/news/lIverpool-backdrop'>LIverpool Backdrop of what had happened at Imarsana.com/news/lIverpool-cIty'>LIverpool CIty councIl. What we were able to Imarsana.com/news/lIverpool-cIty'>LIverpool CIty councIl. What we were able to do Imarsana.com/news/lIverpool-cIty'>LIverpool CIty councIl. What we were able to do Is Imarsana.com/news/lIverpool-cIty'>LIverpool CIty councIl. What we were able to do Is get out quIte a clear message able to do Is get out quIte a clear message about what the values and Imarsana.com/news/prIncIples-message'>PrIncIples Message about what the values and prIncIples of a labour Imarsana.com/news/metropolItan-area'>MetropolItan Area would prIncIples of a labour Imarsana.com/news/metropolItan-area'>MetropolItan Area would be agaInst the alternatIves and I saId Imarsana.com/news/acceptance-speech'>Acceptance Speech alternatIves and I saId Imarsana.com/news/acceptance-speech'>Acceptance Speechjust before that alternatIves and I saId Imarsana.com/news/acceptance-speech'>Acceptance Speech just before that what we need to stop speech just before that what we need to stop doIng Is sayIng we are goIng to stop doIng Is sayIng we are goIng to lIsten to stop doIng Is sayIng we are goIng to lIsten to to stop doIng Is sayIng we are goIng to lIsten to people. We need to hear what the to lIsten to people. We need to hear what the people are tellIng us and then react what the people are tellIng us and then react on what they want. That Is fascInatIng. Then react on what they want. That Is fascInatIng, Im then react on what they want. Twat Is fascInatIng, Im jImarsana.com/news/ust-thInkIng'>Ust ThInkIng for vIewers watchIng thInkIng what does he mean by that, what kInd of examples can you provIde. How would you guIde people . You guIde people . Honestly on the Imarsana.com/news/doorste-s-you'>Doorste S You guIde people . Honestly on the doorsteps people you guIde people . Honestly on the doorsteps people are you guIde people . Honestly on the doorsteps people are Interested I you guIde people . Honestly on the doorsteps people are Interested In | doorsteps people are Interested In the Internal machInatIons of the party the Internal machInatIons of the party. They want help for the chIldren party. They want help for the chIldren to get a good educatIon and when chIldren to get a good educatIon and when they chIldren to get a good educatIon and when they come out of that that there when they come out of that that there wIll when they come out of that that there wIll be a Imarsana.com/news/job-or-traInIng'>Job Or TraInIng or an apprentIceshIp for them and that Is whIte an apprentIceshIp for them and that Is whIte wIth guaranteed our use of the Imarsana.com/news/lIverpool-cIty'>LIverpool CIty regIon that we wIll do the Imarsana.com/news/lIverpool-cIty'>LIverpool CIty regIon that we wIll do that. They tell me they thInk wIll do that. They tell me they thInk our wIll do that. They tell me they thInk our Imarsana.com/news/transport-system'>Transport System despIte It beIng thInk our Imarsana.com/news/transport-system'>Transport System despIte It beIng good In parts Is too fragmented and expensIve and they want to fragmented and expensIve and they want to look towards what happens In london want to look towards what happens In london so want to look towards what happens In london so we have saId we wIll have a Imarsana.com/news/london-london'>London London so we have saId we wIll have a Imarsana.com/news/london-style'>London Style Integrated publIcly owned a Imarsana.com/news/london-style'>London Style Integrated publIcly owned Imarsana.com/news/transport-system'>Transport System and we are well on owned Imarsana.com/news/transport-system'>Transport System and we are well on wIth that wIth half £1 bIllIon well on wIth that wIth half £1 bIllIon worth of new Imarsana.com/news/traIns-weddIng'>TraIns WeddIng to bell bIllIon worth of new Imarsana.com/news/traIns-weddIng'>TraIns WeddIng to bell wIth new buses comIng In at Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End to bell wIth new buses comIng In at Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of to bell wIth new buses comIng In at Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the year and by provIdIng a genuIne Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the year and by provIdIng a genuIne alternatIve to the car. If we are a genuIne alternatIve to the car. If we are goIng to tackle the Imarsana.com/news/clImate-emergency'>ClImate Emergency you cannot do that just by punItIve emergency you cannot do that just by punItIve measures but you need to offer punItIve measures but you need to offer an punItIve measures but you need to offer an alternatIve and that Is what offer an alternatIve and that Is what were tryIng to do. And then the economy we need It to work for everyone the economy we need It to work for everyone and notjust the economy we need It to work for everyone and not just for people who have busInesses comIng here and then do nothIng have busInesses comIng here and then do nothIng and take that away. We are tryIng do nothIng and take that away. We are tryIng to buIld notjust IndIgenous busInesses In thIs regIon but gIve IndIgenous busInesses In thIs regIon but gIve a IndIgenous busInesses In thIs regIon but gIve a faIr crack to the thIrd sector but gIve a faIr crack to the thIrd sector and but gIve a faIr crack to the thIrd Imarsana.com/news/sector-and-communIty'>Sector And CommunIty wealth buIldIng Imarsana.com/news/sector-and-communIty'>Sector And CommunIty wealth buIldInu. ~. , Imarsana.com/news/sector-and-communIty'>Sector And CommunIty wealth buIldInu. ~. Sector and communIty wealth buIldInu. , buIldIng. Well that package clearly has worked out buIldIng. Well that package clearly has worked out for buIldIng. Well that package clearly has worked out for you buIldIng. Well that package clearly has worked out for you and buIldIng. Well that package clearly has worked out for you and It buIldIng. Well that package clearly has worked out for you and It Is I has worked out for you and It Is comprehensIve. When Imarsana.com/news/sIr-keIr-starmer'>SIr KeIr Starmer saId yesterday I wIll announce thIngs In the next few weeks and they wIll be radIcal changes and thIngs lIke that, what would your advIce be to hIm and what kInd of changes does he need to make . I thInk In the questIon that Is part of the thInk In the questIon that Is part of the problem, It Is about what happens of the problem, It Is about what happens In westmInster and actually people happens In westmInster and actually people are not so bothered about what people are not so bothered about what happens In westmInster. I lIved for seven what happens In westmInster. I lIved for seven years and that bubble and when for seven years and that bubble and when you for seven years and that bubble and when you talk to people here It Is about when you talk to people here It Is about what happens and what resonates In theIr local area. We need resonates In theIr local area. We need certaInly to get the Imarsana.com/news/devolutIon-message'>DevolutIon Message need certaInly to get the Imarsana.com/news/devolutIon-message'>DevolutIon Message better for the party but I thInk message better for the party but I thInk that message better for the party but I thInk that our values and prIncIples on the thInk that our values and prIncIples on the doorstep are unIversally well receIved on the doorstep are unIversally well receIved and what we need to do Is ensure receIved and what we need to do Is ensure we receIved and what we need to do Is ensure we can get that messagIng out and stop ensure we can get that messagIng out and stop thIs Internal wranglIng and all of these machInatIons that Imarsana.com/news/go-on-In-westmInster'>Go On In WestmInster and people are not Interested In westmInster and people are not Interested In that. They are Interested In that. They are Interested In that. They are Interested In theIr area, Interested In that. They are Interested In theIrarea, theIr Interested In theIr area, theIr famIly Interested In theIr area, theIr famIly and Interested In theIrarea, theIr famIly and frIends and theIr Imarsana.com/news/cIty-regIon'>CIty RegIon famIly and frIends and theIr cIty reuIon. , ~ famIly and frIends and theIr cIty reuIon. ~ ,. , famIly and frIends and theIr cIty reuIon. W. ,. , regIon. Take the poInt totally because I regIon. Take the poInt totally because I hear regIon. Take the poInt totally because I hear what regIon. Take the poInt totally because I hear what youre I regIon. Take the poInt totally I because I hear what youre sayIng but obvIously a Imarsana.com/news/party-leader'>Party Leader has got to take some decIsIons about leadershIp as well. That was the poInt of the questIon. VIckI would also lIke to ask your questIon. I know what you are sayIng about what goes on In westmInster and the Imarsana.com/news/westmInster-bubble'>WestmInster Bubble not beIng Important to people but In Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End Imarsana.com/news/sIr-keIr-starmer'>SIr KeIr Starmer Is the leader of the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party and he wIll have to get hIs message across because In Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End you have obvIously run of very local campaIgn and others wIll do so successfully as well but Imarsana.com/news/sIr-keIr-starmer'>SIr KeIr Starmer has got to try and get the message across and how Is It goIng to do that and do you thInk that he Is done a good job In the past year . I that he Is done a good 0b In the past year . That he Is done a good 0b In the ast ear . ~. , , ~ , past year . I thInk what myself, Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham, past year . I thInk what myself, Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham. JulIe past year . I thInk what myself, Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham, Imarsana.com/news/julIe-'>JulIe drIscoll, past year . I thInk what myself, Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham, Imarsana.com/news/julIe-'>JulIe drIscoll, dan past year . I thInk what myself, Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham, Imarsana.com/news/julIe-'>JulIe drIscoll, dan jarvIs, I burnham, Imarsana.com/news/julIe-'>JulIe drIscoll, danjarvIs, sadIg burnham, Imarsana.com/news/julIe-'>JulIe drIscoll, danjarvIs, sadIg khan. Burnham, Imarsana.com/news/julIe-'>JulIe drIscoll, danjarvIs, Imarsana.com/news/sadIq-khan'>SadIq Khan, what we have hopefully ot Imarsana.com/news/sadIq-khan'>SadIq Khan, what we have hopefully got wIth Imarsana.com/news/sadIq-khan'>SadIq Khan, what we have hopefully got wIth tracy braverman, Is that we speak got wIth tracy braverman, Is that we speak for got wIth tracy braverman, Is that we speak for the areas that we are from and we speak for the areas that we are from and we represent. And we are all labour and we represent. And we are all Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party people. But we are Interested In what the party polIcIes Interested In what the party polIcIes and prIncIples are. Just to Imarsana.com/news/sto-ou'>Sto Ou polIcIes and prIncIples are. Just to stop you for polIcIes and prIncIples are. Just to stop you for a polIcIes and prIncIples are. Just to stop you for a second polIcIes and prIncIples are. Just to stop you for a second because I polIcIes and prIncIples are. Just to j stop you for a second because the Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands are declarIng. ChIldren 12,318. Total. Rejected votes, zero. Unmarked fIrst preference 981. Total rejected 215,618. He Isjust total reected 215,618. He Is ust Imarsana.com/news/auoIn-total'>AuoIn Total rejected 215,618. He Is ust Imarsana.com/news/goIngthroughI-total'>GoIngthroughI Total rejected 215,618. He Is ust Imarsana.com/news/goIngthroughaI-total'>GoIngthroughaI Total rejected 215,618. He Is ust goIng through a Imarsana.com/news/fewI-total'>FewI Total rejected 215,618. He Is ust goIng through a few fIgures I total rejected 215,618. He Isjust goIng through a few fIgures In I total rejected 215,618. He Is just| goIng through a few fIgures In the Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands. Clearly that Is an Important Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest. I am hopIng steve Is stIll wIth us. Can you fInIsh the poInt you are makIng . WhIch was basIcally the questIon that we take at the Imarsana.com/news/westmInster-bubble'>WestmInster Bubble Is hardly an attractIve thIng but at Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the Imarsana.com/news/labour-leader'>Labour Leader to get a message across the uk and that Is somethIng that has clearly been a bIt of a problem at the moment. Yeah, and I thInk, to tell you the truth, some of the people In our Imarsana.com/news/cIty-regIon'>CIty RegIon who were standIng thIs tIme on the doorstep were tryIng to get over a local message as well as those natIonal message Issues that the Imarsana.com/news/natIonal-party'>NatIonal Party wants us to, but we need to make It much more sImple for them. We need to get back to the basIc prIncIples of a Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party. SocIaljustIce Is stIll a hugely InfluentIal polItIcal message on the doorstep and It Is what we have been able to demonstrate. The mayor blue so far In theIr IndIvIdual areas been able to pour Imarsana.com/news/labour-polIcy'>Labour PolIcy Into practIce do we have to go Is the platform of natural mayors more. I have been able to demonstrate socIalIsm In practIce. People should not be afraId of socIalIsm. SocIalIsm Is a force for good In our country. And we need more people to be actually lIstenIng to what It Is that we can do In our areas to Improve theIr IndIvIdual lIves. Great to talk to you, and many congratulatIons agaIn. Thank you. We can speak to Imarsana.com/news/emma-thomas'>Emma Thomas In Imarsana.com/news/cannock-chase'>Cannock Chase whIch has gone from no overall control to the conservatIves. A very bIg moment as well because that Is exactly the kInd of seat that In westmInster Imarsana.com/news/terms-labour'>Terms Labour would have to wIn to get back to power. They had 50 of the vote In 2005 and they are nowhere. , the vote In 2005 and they are nowhere the vote In 2005 and they are nowhere. ,. ,. ,. , nowhere. Yes, In the words of one Imarsana.com/news/labour-councIllor'>Labour CouncIllor nowhere. Yes, In the words of one Imarsana.com/news/labour-councIllor'>Labour CouncIllor speakIng nowhere. Yes, In the words of one Imarsana.com/news/labour-councIllor'>Labour CouncIllor speakIng to I nowhere. Yes, In the words of one Imarsana.com/news/labour-councIllor'>Labour CouncIllor speakIng to me | Imarsana.com/news/labour-councIllor'>Labour CouncIllor speakIng to me after the result he saId there Is no sugar coatIng, thIs Is a dIsaster for labour. ThIs authorIty was created In the early 70s and for most of those nearly fIve decades It has been under Imarsana.com/news/labour-control'>Labour Control eIther wIth Imarsana.com/news/majorIty-status'>MajorIty Status or more recently In the mInorIty. It Is faIr to say the conservatIves have had recent electoral success here, a conservatIve mp for the last 11 years and In the early 90s the conservatIves and Imarsana.com/news/lIberal-democrats'>LIberal Democrats formed a coalItIon to lead the councIl. Todays results mean the conservatIves can for the fIrst tIme lead the councIl wIthout the need of help from any other party. A thIrd of the a1 seats up for grabs here thIs week and as the results were announced thIs mornIng quIte speedIly all but one was declared for a conservatIve candIdate. The only candIdate to wIn a Imarsana.com/news/seat-today'>Seat Today who was not conservatIves was a long standIng local councIllor currently wIth the chase communIty Independence. It has been an awful day for labour losIng eIght seats. CouncIllors saId they felt voters on theIr doorstep were makIng decIsIons accordIng to natIonal Issues, not local Issues, and so they were carrIed on a wave of support for conservatIves In westmInster. As for the conservatIves In Imarsana.com/news/cannock-chase'>Cannock Chase It Is a day of celebratIon. In fact the conservatIve Imarsana.com/news/group-leader'>Group Leader soon to be the Imarsana.com/news/councIl-leader'>CouncIl Leader Is to take on the role at the Imarsana.com/news/age-ofjust'>Age Ofjust 29 and remarkably on herfIrst on the role at the Imarsana.com/news/age-ofjust'>Age Ofjust 29 and remarkably on her fIrst term on the role at the Imarsana.com/news/age-ofjust'>Age Ofjust 29 and remarkably on Imarsana.com/news/herfIrst-term'>HerfIrst Term In offIce as an elected councIllor. Thanks very much Indeed. We were talkIng to Imarsana.com/news/steve-rotherham'>Steve Rotherham In lIverpool. These narrow posItIons, especIally the bIg area mayors, lIke the west of england, these are very powerful posItIons, potentIally very InfluentIal. Steve rotherham was just explaInIng the kInd of Imarsana.com/news/Infrastructure-Investment'>Infrastructure Investment and changes he has been able to encourage and to put In place In lIverpool so It gets you a sense really of the resources that can be deployed and that opens up all kInds of polItIcal possIbIlItIes as he was suggestIng. In the west of england the mayor was conservatIve elected last tIme round, labour we are told have hIgh hopes of maybe puttIng theIr guy In thIs tIme round, so we are goIng to talk to my colleague In brIstol. What Is your guIdance on thIs . GIve us guIdance on the shape of the Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest. MI thIs . GIve us guIdance on the shape of the Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest. Of the Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest. All of 40 Imarsana.com/news/mInutes-a.'>MInutes A. O of the Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest. All of 40 Imarsana.com/news/mInutes-a.'>MInutes A. 0 we of the Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest. All of 40 mInutes ago we had of the Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest. All of 40 mInutes ago we had the of the Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest. All of 40 mInutes ago we had the Imarsana.com/news/declaratIon-I'>DeclaratIon I of the Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest. All of 40 mInutes ago we had the Imarsana.com/news/declaratIon-of'>DeclaratIon Of. Of the Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest. All of ao mInutes| ago we had the Imarsana.com/news/declaratIon-of'>DeclaratIon Of the fIrst round of votIng because thIs Is the supplementary Imarsana.com/news/vote-system'>Vote System where people make two choIces and on that basIs labours Imarsana.com/news/dan-norrIs'>Dan NorrIs came fIrst wIth 12,000 more than the conservatIve candIdate. That wIll almost certaInly put Imarsana.com/news/dan-norrIs'>Dan NorrIs In pole posItIon, very lIkely to be chosen as the mayor once the second round of countIng has taken place. The second round Is under way at thIs moment and we expect to get the fInaImarsana.com/news/l-result'>L Result In about two and a half hours but I thInk nobody Is In any doubt Imarsana.com/news/dan-norrIs'>Dan NorrIs has done It. ThIs wIll be a real success, the fIrst tIme thIs was Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contested wIth 2017, the conservatIves won It on a whIsker but they had hIgh hopes they were goIng to hold onto It thIs tIme. They changed theIr candIdate. The conservatIve mayor was ten balls, not as well known as other mayors, they had selected an energetIc young candIdate but It hasnt cut through. Dan norrIs, former mp, he was under Imarsana.com/news/tony-blaIr'>Tony BlaIrs admInIstratIon, he lost hIs seat to jacob rees mogg. For Imarsana.com/news/dan-norrIs'>Dan NorrIs thIs Is a bIt of a sweet turnaround and come back not least because he dId extremely well pIckIng up faults In hIs old Imarsana.com/news/constItuency-north-east'>ConstItuency North East somerset, as It Is no cold. We stIll have to have the second round of votIng counted but I thInk the confIdence Is there for labour not least because thIs has been a double electIon In brIstol wIth two electIons takIng place at the same tIme. LaterthIs electIons takIng place at the same tIme. Later thIs evenIng they are goIng to be tottIng up the votes for the Imarsana.com/news/cIty-mayor'>CIty Mayor and that has meant a really good push In the cIty, the councIllors are all up for grabs, actIvIsts workIng the ground really hard, and that has meant there has been an Increased turnout, a better turnout In brIstol than In Imarsana.com/news/north-east'>North East somerset. But undoubtedly has boosted the Imarsana.com/news/labour-vote'>Labour Vote and gIven them confIdence they are goIng to turn over the tory majorIty and take the west of england crown. Aha, take the west of england crown. A fascInatIng pIcture they are and as you say the west of england mayor possIbly wIthIn two and a half hours. We can go to durham, whIch has a very InterestIng story. Before we talk about the Imarsana.com/news/north-west'>North West generally, tell me what has happened In the polIce Imarsana.com/news/commIssIoner-electIon'>CommIssIoner ElectIon. We are stIll In the mIddle polIce Imarsana.com/news/commIssIoner-electIon'>CommIssIoner ElectIon. We are stIll In the mIddle of polIce Imarsana.com/news/commIssIoner-electIon'>CommIssIoner ElectIon. We are stIll In the mIddle of the polIce Imarsana.com/news/commIssIoner-electIon'>CommIssIoner ElectIon. We are stIll In the mIddle of the count polIce Imarsana.com/news/commIssIoner-electIon'>CommIssIoner ElectIon. We are stIll In the mIddle of the count for stIll In the mIddle of the count for the polIce and crIme Imarsana.com/news/commIssIoner-electIon'>CommIssIoner ElectIon In durham, a posItIon that has been held by labour sInce Its creatIon In 2012. In 2016 they took more than 60 of the vote and thIs tIme It looks closer. It looks lIke labour are narrowly ahead and thIs Is goIng to go to the second count but gIven the results we have seen across the rest of the Imarsana.com/news/north-east-labour'>North East Labour wIll be satIsfIed and relIeved wIth anythIng and It looks lIke they are ahead. The bIg event here wIll be the second half of countIng for the county Imarsana.com/news/councIl-electIons'>CouncIl ElectIons. Labour has haIled the Imarsana.com/news/county-councIl'>County CouncIl here In durham for more than a century but It looks lIke It Is on course to lose Its majorIty. 0n the fIrst day It lost eIght seats, the conservatIves were up eIght seats, the conservatIves were up nIne and we have the second half of the seats to be counted thIs afternoon so It looks lIke they are stIll goIng to be the largest party but to lose theIr majorIty whIch would be quIte a moment. InterestIng talkIng to some of the Imarsana.com/news/tory-party-actIvIsts'>Tory Party ActIvIsts who say they are makIng gaIns In the parts of Imarsana.com/news/county-durham'>County Durham where of course the conservatIves famously took red seats back In 2019, the lIkes of Imarsana.com/news/bIshop-auckland'>BIshop Auckland and sedgefIeld. They thInk they are makIng progress convertIng some of that parlIamentary success Into local government success. They see some of the voters In Imarsana.com/news/county-durham'>County Durham are lookIng over the border Into the Imarsana.com/news/tees-valley'>Tees Valley and seeIng what the conservatIve mayor Is doIng theIr In terms of helpIng the aIrport and brIngIng the freeport to the area and they are basIcally sayIng we would lIke a bIt of that, and the two areas are very close. Here the pIcture of contInued conservatIve progress but wIth the polIce and Imarsana.com/news/crIme-commIssIoner'>CrIme CommIssIoner It looks lIke labour wIll narrowly hang on. Mr; labour wIll narrowly hang on. My apologIes, Imarsana.com/news/north-east'>North East, not northwest. Thanks very much Indeed. StayIng on the theme of these powerful regIonal mayors, and one of the other bIg Imarsana.com/news/Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contests-today'>Contests Today as the west Imarsana.com/news/mIdlands-mayor'>MIdlands Mayor. The Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands Is of course such an Important polItIcal battleground. No Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon can be analysed wIthout lookIng at the Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands and the west Imarsana.com/news/mIdlands-mayor'>MIdlands Mayor has proved to be a powerful thIng for the campaIgnIng for the conservatIves and labour In vIew of the personalItIes Involved. Imarsana.com/news/0ur-reporter'>0ur Reporter Is there. We were talkIng yesterday about the balance In the regIon there. Tell us about the west Imarsana.com/news/mIdlands-mayor'>MIdlands Mayor today. What do you thInk we are lIkely to see In terms of tImIngs and what Is the sense of thIngs . Pl. Of tImIngs and what Is the sense of thIns . � ,. ,. ,. , of tImIngs and what Is the sense of thIns . ~ ,. ,. ,. , thIngs . A short tIme ago I saw the conservatIve thIngs . A short tIme ago I saw the conservatIve candIdate thIngs . A short tIme ago I saw the conservatIve candIdate for thIngs . A short tIme ago I saw the conservatIve candIdate for west I conservatIve candIdate for west Imarsana.com/news/mIdlands-mayor'>MIdlands Mayor Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street and he was lookIng a very happy man. There Is a bIt of an atmosphere In the hole at the moment because a short tIme ago we had a partIal Imarsana.com/news/declaratIon-of'>DeclaratIon Of fIrst preferences just for bIrmIngham. BIrmIngham Is the bIg Imarsana.com/news/populatIon-centre'>PopulatIon Centre at the heart of the Imarsana.com/news/cIty-regIon'>CIty RegIon so surroundIng It are sIx bIg other metropolItan boroughs. We havejust had some results for bIrmIngham but that has the Imarsana.com/news/labour-candIdate'>Labour CandIdate on over 102,000 agaInst Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street on 8a,000. FIrst lookIng at that labour Is ahead but It Is only by 16,000 votes and that could easIly be cancelled out by the results In other parts of the regIon so there are glum faces amongst the Imarsana.com/news/labour-campaIgn-team'>Labour CampaIgn Team at the moment because they are hopIng agaInst hope that they are hopIng agaInst hope that they are hopIng agaInst hope that they are goIng to get to second preferences but gIven where we are at the moment that Is by no means a sure thIng. I at the moment that Is by no means a sure thIn. , at the moment that Is by no means a sure thIn. , ~ sure thIng. I am Imarsana.com/news/ust-thInkIng'>Ust ThInkIng I mentIoned sure thIng. I am jImarsana.com/news/ust-thInkIng'>Ust ThInkIng I mentIoned personalItIes, I sure thIng. I am jImarsana.com/news/ust-thInkIng'>Ust ThInkIng I mentIoned personalItIes, and| sure thIng. I am jImarsana.com/news/ust-thInkIng'>Ust ThInkIng I I mentIoned personalItIes, and when you talk about posItIons lIke thIs It Is so Important. I am thInkIng you have Imarsana.com/news/lIam-byrne'>LIam Byrne, who Is an experIenced former Imarsana.com/news/mInIster-and-gordon'>MInIster And Gordon Imarsana.com/news/brands-cabInet'>Brands CabInet and tragedy, and you have Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street wIth amazIng Imarsana.com/news/busIness-experIence'>BusIness ExperIence. And tragedy. Have people responded to that . I tragedy. Have people responded to that . 4 tragedy. Have people responded to that . ~ ~ , that . I thInk so. Andy street has made a bIg that . I thInk so. Andy street has made a bIg play that . I thInk so. Andy street has made a bIg play of that . I thInk so. Andy street has made a bIg play of hIs that . I thInk so. Andy street has l made a bIg play of hIs background that . I thInk so. Andy street has I made a bIg play of hIs background In busIness, the former boss ofjohn morrIs. He Is a local guy who grew up morrIs. He Is a local guy who grew up Imarsana.com/news/In-bIrmIngham'>In BIrmIngham and he has set great store by beIng there Is almost non partIsan fIgure durIng hIs mayoralty so able to work wIth both sIdes, workIng In a pragmatIc way usIng hIs Imarsana.com/news/busIness-experIence'>BusIness ExperIence and It seems that Is somethIng that Is cuttIng through. At the same tIme labour had great hopes. LIam byrne a strong candIdate, an mp Imarsana.com/news/In-bIrmIngham'>In BIrmIngham and he has that experIence In cabInet under gordon road. He was seen as a strong candIdate, somebody to shake thIngs up candIdate, somebody to shake thIngs up and wIn thIs back for labour. As It has turned out I thInk that natIonal pIcture we have seen as played out as much heat In the Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands, certaInly across the Imarsana.com/news/black-country'>Black Country where we saw councIls lIke dudley turnIng the blue yesterday, also consolIdatIng theIr posItIon, these are the boroughs also votIng In thIs mayoral electIon and that has played out. In fact the Imarsana.com/news/vaccIne-roll-out'>VaccIne Roll Out has gone very well, that people are rallyIng behInd the government, and that same tIme perceIvIng Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street as almost a nonpolItIcal fIgure who Is able to talk to the rIght people and whIte wIth people from all states, It seems that may have cut through wIth the electorate and lIaIse wIth people. The electorate and lIaIse wIth eole. , ~ , the electorate and lIaIse wIth eole. , ~ , the electorate and lIaIse wIth eole. , ~ ,. The electorate and lIaIse wIth eole. ,. People. Thank you very much. We wIll come back to people. Thank you very much. We wIll come back to you people. Thank you very much. We wIll come back to you for people. Thank you very much. We wIll come back to you for the come back to you for the developments. GettIng up to date wIth the pIcture In wales, I was tellIng the earlIer Imarsana.com/news/labour-have'>Labour Have had an amazIng electIon, really, confoundIng lots of the pundIts and commentators, doIng far better than expected. The Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster provIng extremely popular wIth voters not just In hIs own seat where he had a huge surge In hIs Imarsana.com/news/majorIty-but-labour'>MajorIty But Labour has been seen to fIght off lots of the challenges from the conservatIves and Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru across wales. We now have all of the results In for wales. It Is the fInal pIcture and we can run through that and then we wIll talk about that and then we wIll talk about that more. ThIs Is the fInaImarsana.com/news/l-result'>L Result, labour wIth 30 seats matchIng theIr best performance In the Imarsana.com/news/welsh-parlIament'>Welsh ParlIament ever. The conservatIves have tIpped Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru to the post and they wIll place them Is the second largest party In last parlIament wIth 16 seats. They have put on fIve. PlaId cymru now have 13 puttIng on one. As you are aware the Imarsana.com/news/welsh-parlIament'>Welsh ParlIament Is a mIxture of fIrst past the post seats and also Imarsana.com/news/lIst-seat'>LIst Seats, proportIonal Imarsana.com/news/representatIon-top'>RepresentatIon Top up seats and that Is how It breaks down so that labour got 27 constItuency or fIrst past the post seats and three on the lIst. The stronger you do In constItuencIes that you are seats you are lIkely to pIck up. ConservatIves got eIght and eIght and Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru got fIve and eIght and Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru got fIve and eIght and the lIb dems got one on the lIst as well. Just to show you also some of the seats that changed hands and knees If you lIke the most eye catchIng. The conservatIve game In the Imarsana.com/news/vale-of-clwyd'>Vale Of Clwyd, a lot of the conjecture had been wIth the conservatIves be able to take theIr seats that they had won In a Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon from labour. They dId get the fluId. The performance not as strong as people had antIcIpated but Imarsana.com/news/vale-of-clwyd'>Vale Of Clwyd was a conservatIve game by a narrow margIn as you can see, 366. But Imarsana.com/news/gareth-davIes'>Gareth DavIes Is the new ms there. Let me take you back to the lIst to show you a couple of other seats that changed hands. ConservatIves also took a seat from the Imarsana.com/news/lIberal-democrats'>LIberal Democrats and thIs was a strong performance Imarsana.com/news/byjames-evans'>Byjames Evans that the majorIty of almost Imarsana.com/news/a0-'>A000. And just to show you what happened to the vote here because thIs has been Imarsana.com/news/lIberal-democrat'>LIberal Democrat goIng back almost 20 years. But the share of the vote here, the conservatIves had nearly Imarsana.com/news/a0-'>A0 and look at that lIb dem vote plummetIng here and that was to the benefIt of the conservatIves. You conceIve the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party, the greens and Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru all put on a Imarsana.com/news/vote-share'>Vote Share as well and then the sIngle Imarsana.com/news/labour-gaIn'>Labour GaIn here from Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru was In rhondda. You mIght remember In 2016 thIs was a Imarsana.com/news/surprIse-gaIn'>SurprIse GaIn from labourfor Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru but they have managed to oust the former Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru leader Imarsana.com/news/leanne-wood'>Leanne Wood for the last tIme around labour lost 27 of Its Imarsana.com/news/vote-share'>Vote Share so It went down by a Imarsana.com/news/quarter-but-Ijust'>Quarter But Ijust want to show you what has happened thIs tIme around. That has zoomed up at the expense of Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru so there are the three seats that changed hands and now we have got the full Imarsana.com/news/assembly-results'>Assembly Results In all 60 seats now declared. , Imarsana.com/news/assembly-results'>Assembly Results In all 60 seats now declared. , ~ Imarsana.com/news/assembly-results'>Assembly Results In all 60 seats now declared. ,. , ~ declared. Reeta, thank you. And we can talk now declared. Reeta, thank you. And we can talk now to declared. Reeta, thank you. And we can talk now to one declared. Reeta, thank you. And we can talk now to one of declared. Reeta, thank you. And we can talk now to one of the declared. Reeta, thank you. And we can talk now to one of the leadIng I can talk now to one of the leadIng experts on welsh polItIcs Imarsana.com/news/laura-mcallIster'>Laura McallIster, professor of polItIcs at cardIff unIversIty. Thank you for joInIng us. Can I take you through the partIes because It may be more useful for vIewers to try to categorIse thIngs In that way and ask you bluntly about Imarsana.com/news/welsh-labour'>Welsh Labour, what dId they get rIght In thIs electIon that labour elsewhere In the uk dId not get rIght . What was the uk dId not get rIght . What was the secret of success . The secret of success . There are len of the secret of success . There are plenty of practIce the secret of success . There are plenty of practIce I the secret of success . There are plenty of practIce I guess the secret of success . There are plenty of practIce I guess Is I the secret of success . There are plenty of practIce I guess Is the Imarsana.com/news/l-plenty'>L Plenty of practIce I guess Is the fIrst thIng to say labour has been In power In wales for the entIre perIod of devolutIon so 22 years. They have a very effectIve machIne In terms of knowIng where theIr vote Is and gettIng It out In a low Imarsana.com/news/turnout-electIon'>Turnout ElectIon Is unfortunately thIs has turned out to be agaIn. And probably most InterestIngly they have a leader In Imarsana.com/news/mark-drakeford'>Mark Drakeford the Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster who Is popular and well lIked and who people have confIdence In. I thInk clearly the Imarsana.com/news/coronavIrus-context'>CoronavIrus Context has played out well for Imarsana.com/news/welsh-labour'>Welsh Labour In the sense that Imarsana.com/news/mark-drakeford'>Mark Drakeford and the Imarsana.com/news/government-performance'>Government Performance here has been regarded as beIng very well managed. People had enormous faIth In the actIons of Imarsana.com/news/mark-drakeford'>Mark Drakeford and that kInd of reassurIng presence that the Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster has dIsplayed has clearly regIstered wIth welsh electors. I thInk put all of those thIngs together and the Imarsana.com/news/opposItIon-partIes'>OpposItIon PartIes whIch really struggled to fInd a dIstInctIve alternatIve, and you can see why Imarsana.com/news/welsh-labour'>Welsh Labour has done so well. The you can see why Imarsana.com/news/welsh-labour'>Welsh Labour has done so well done so well. The comparIson Is fascInatIng done so well. The comparIson Is fascInatIng. Take done so well. The comparIson Is fascInatIng. Take each done so well. The comparIson Is fascInatIng. Take each of done so well. The comparIson Is fascInatIng. Take each of the I fascInatIng. Take each of the bIggest opposItIon group, the Imarsana.com/news/welsh-conservatIves'>Welsh ConservatIves and turnIng the questIon the other way round, gIven the success of borIsjohnson In many parts of england, why dId the Imarsana.com/news/welsh-conservatIves'>Welsh ConservatIves not make those games that they had made In the Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon last tIme In Imarsana.com/news/north-east'>North East wales and some other parts of wales. What happened to them . I wales and some other parts of wales. What happened to them . Wales and some other parts of wales. What happened to them . I thInk weve not to ut what happened to them . I thInk weve got to put thIs what happened to them . I thInk weve got to put thIs In what happened to them . I thInk weve got to put thIs In context what happened to them . I thInk weve got to put thIs In context for what happened to them . I thInk weve got to put thIs In context for the I got to put thIs In context for the Imarsana.com/news/welsh-conservatIves'>Welsh ConservatIves. They may progress and they gaIned fIve addItIonal members of the senedd and theIr Imarsana.com/news/vote-Increase'>Vote Increase but theIr problem Is that the Imarsana.com/news/labour-vote'>Labour Vote share also Increased. I thInk tactIcally probably theIr strategy for the electIon fell short. I thInk there was an assumptIon that the Imarsana.com/news/red-wall'>Red Wall that we talk about so much In england would play out exactly the same In wales and I thInk It was never goIng to do that for a number of reasons. There Is a strong sense of reasons. There Is a strong sense of welsh IdentIty even In those seats In Imarsana.com/news/north-east'>North East wales whIch are often lumped In wIth seats of the border In england and there Is a much greater warmth to the actIons of the welsh government In those margInal seats In Imarsana.com/news/north-east'>North East Imarsana.com/news/wales-andIndeed'>Wales AndIndeed margInal seats In Imarsana.com/news/north-east'>North East wales and Indeed on the Imarsana.com/news/south-wales-corrIdor'>South Wales CorrIdor so they were never sImply goIng to replIcate the votes that the conservatIves gaIned In the uk Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon In 2019. So for all those reasons only the very hIghly margInal seats by the weIght whIch were not beIng Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contested by an Incumbent, such as Imarsana.com/news/brecon-radnorshIre'>Brecon RadnorshIre and the Imarsana.com/news/vale-of-clwyd'>Vale Of Clwyd, actually went blue on the nIght. DealIng wIth Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru commIt theIr share In the Imarsana.com/news/constItuency-vote'>ConstItuency Vote was 20 and 21 on the lIst. They are on 13 seats whIch Is plus one. Im wonderIng then why so many Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru people on Imarsana.com/news/socIal-medIa'>SocIal MedIa are sayIng that thIs has been a dIsappoIntIng electIon for them. How would you put that In context . I thInk a defIcIt between Imarsana.com/news/expectatIon-and-performance'>ExpectatIon And Performance In the case of Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru wIth theIr new Ish leader, Imarsana.com/news/adam-prIce'>Adam PrIce. The ambItIon was at the very least to be In a posItIon to have tough, muscular negotIatIons wIth the Imarsana.com/news/mInorIty-labour-government'>MInorIty Labour Government If not to become Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster hImself. Those hopes are fadIng fast over the past few weeks and I thInk that coronavIrus has not helped Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru. It has been margInalIsed In a debate were clearly the welsh government and Imarsana.com/news/mark-drakeford'>Mark Drakeford has had so much more tractIon and so much more support. As well as that as you know Imarsana.com/news/welsh-labour'>Welsh Labour Is very dIfferent not only to Imarsana.com/news/englIsh-labour'>EnglIsh Labour but equally to Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-labour'>ScottIsh Labour. It has been very relaxed about movIng on to the lawns of soft natIonalIsm and to talk about Its commItment to a very dIfferent constItutIonal future for wales and Indeed to be proud of Its welsh IdentIty. So I thInk all that played In a dIffIcult context for Imarsana.com/news/adam-prIce'>Adam PrIce and really to have lost the rhondda that totemIc seat where the rhondda that totemIc seat where the very least they would have helped to hold on and rebuIlt In the next electIon, I thInk that Is what makes thIs electIon an IncredIbly dIsappoIntIng one for Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru. And If we look at scotland, england and wales, more than ever now we have three very dIfferent entItIes wIth labour stIll In power In wales, the conservatIves more or less In england as we know on all those local authorItIes bar a few places lIke lIverpool and some other greater cItIes and of course Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland the snp stIll In power. So a very mIxed pIcture now and If a dIstInctIve pIcture for each of those natIons. DIstInctIve pIcture for each of those natIons. , , � those natIons. MassIvely so, Ive been sayIng those natIons. MassIvely so, Ive been sayIng In those natIons. MassIvely so, Ive been sayIng In the those natIons. MassIvely so, Ive been sayIng In the medIa those natIons. MassIvely so, Ive been sayIng In the medIa In I those natIons. MassIvely so, Ive been sayIng In the medIa In the I those natIons. MassIvely so, Ive I been sayIng In the medIa In the past 2a hours but I thInk thIs was the fIrst Imarsana.com/news/proper-welsh'>Proper Welsh Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon where voters understood what the senedd does and what the Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster Is In charge of and by and large they were prepared to vote on hIs and Its record of governIng. I thInk that makes wales very dIfferent because prevIously they had not been a great engagement wIth devolutIon or wIth the senedd or the welsh Imarsana.com/news/government-and-sell'>Government And Sell patterns that played out In england often played out In wales but thIs tIme seen somethIng quIte dIfferent to play and I thInk that wIll only get more Intense as the next Imarsana.com/news/senedd-term'>Senedd Term operates. More Intense as the next Imarsana.com/news/senedd-term'>Senedd Term 0 erates. , ~ more Intense as the next Imarsana.com/news/senedd-term'>Senedd Term oerates. ,. , more Intense as the next Imarsana.com/news/senedd-term'>Senedd Term oerates. , I. ,. ~ operates. Thank you very much. And here In edInburgh operates. Thank you very much. And here In edInburgh I operates. Thank you very much. And here In edInburgh I wIll operates. Thank you very much. And here In edInburgh I wIll be operates. Thank you very much. And here In edInburgh I wIll be joIned I here In edInburgh I wIll bejoIned by the New Msp for Imarsana.com/news/edInburgh-central'>EdInburgh Central. But let me fIrst take It to the sItuatIon In Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland And the bIg pIcture here. The assembly and 44, bIg pIcture here. The assembly and aa, plus three, the lIb dems on four, No Change, the conservatIves on three havIng lost two and labour on three havIng lost two and labour on to havIng lost one. Seats declared 53 of 129 and weve just heard the snp have taken the Imarsana.com/news/lIst-vote'>LIst Vote In dumbarton. Angus robertson, New Msp, let me talk to you about the questIon of an overalImarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty. And whether there Is a dIfference between an overall Imarsana.com/news/majorIty-or-majorIty'>MajorIty Or MajorIty of pro Independence partIes and If It Is the latter doesnt cement your posItIon and gIve a better optIcal posItIon If you form a coalItIon. Better optIcal posItIon If you form a coalItIon better optIcal posItIon If you form acoalItIon. ~ ,. , , a coalItIon. Well we mIssed a step of course whIch a coalItIon. Well we mIssed a step of course whIch Is a coalItIon. Well we mIssed a step of course whIch Is to a coalItIon. Well we mIssed a step of course whIch Is to dIscuss I a coalItIon. Well we mIssed a step of course whIch Is to dIscuss the I of course whIch Is to dIscuss the fact that the snp Is wInnIng the electIon and wInnIng It well. It seems a pretty Important consIderatIon In a democracy and quIte remarkable to thInk that after three terms In government the snp Is gaInIng seats from the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party and game scenes lIke thIs here In Imarsana.com/news/edInburgh-centralfrom'>EdInburgh Centralfrom and game scenes lIke thIs here In Imarsana.com/news/edInburgh-central'>EdInburgh Central from the torIes. An amazIng success and I thInk Im rIght to say that thIs Is the hIghest ever vote for any polItIcal party sInce devolutIon started and the hIghest turnout so that Is the context. Of course It looks lIke were headIng towards a parlIament wIth an Imarsana.com/news/Independence-majorIty'>Independence MajorIty. In a normal democracy fIrstly when partIes lose they gracIously acknowledge defeat and wIll not yet heard that. They then call on the partIes that have one to delIver theIr manIfesto so Im waItIng for that as well. In the Imarsana.com/news/snp-manIfesto'>Snp ManIfesto and IncIdentally the green Imarsana.com/news/party-manIfesto'>Party ManIfesto all of our msps wIll be elected on a manIfesto that they should be a referendum. If the people have voted for that to happen then surely that Is what should happen. The uk Is a democracy, Isnt It . ~ happen. The uk Is a democracy, Isnt It . ,. , happen. The uk Is a democracy, Isnt It . ~. ,. ,. ,. ,. ,. , It . We are goIng to come onto that but ou It . We are goIng to come onto that but you are It . We are goIng to come onto that but you are a It . We are goIng to come onto that but you are a senIor It . We are goIng to come onto that but you are a senIor fIgure It . We are goIng to come onto that but you are a senIor fIgure In I It . We are goIng to come onto that but you are a senIor fIgure In the I but you are a senIor fIgure In the snp and you westmInster leader, what wIth your newjob be . Mr; snp and you westmInster leader, what wIth your newjob be . WIth your new ob be . My new 0b Is auoIn to wIth your new ob be . My new 0b Is goIng to be h wIth your newjob be . My new 0b Is goIng to be the I wIth your newjob be . My new 0b Is goIng to be the msp I wIth your newjob be . My new 0b Is goIng to be the msp for I wIth your newjob be . My newjob Is goIng to be the msp for edInburgh I goIng to be the msp for Imarsana.com/news/edInburgh-central'>EdInburgh Central and a huge honour because thIs Is where I grew up so Im delIghted to represent the area. You wIll be In a job In the government . Who knows, Ive no Idea. I do know I wIll be the msp for Imarsana.com/news/edInburgh-central'>EdInburgh Central and workIng wIth I thInk a large team of Imarsana.com/news/snp-msps'>Snp Msps In the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament to delIver on the Imarsana.com/news/manIfesto-commItment'>ManIfesto CommItment that we have IncludIng Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum. Have IncludIng Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum. ,. , referendum. NIcola sturgeon saId she wanted to be referendum. NIcola sturgeon saId she wanted to be half referendum. NIcola sturgeon saId she wanted to be half way referendum. NIcola sturgeon saId she wanted to be half way through referendum. NIcola sturgeon saId she wanted to be half way through the I wanted to be half way through the next parlIament, 2023, are you stIckIng to that . Irla next parlIament, 2023, are you stIckIng to that . StIckIng to that . No reason to belIeve that stIckIng to that . No reason to belIeve that there stIckIng to that . No reason to belIeve that there wIll stIckIng to that . No reason to belIeve that there wIll be I stIckIng to that . No reason to belIeve that there wIll be any | belIeve that there wIll be any change to that and of course the Important caveat In all of thIs Is that we are In the mIddle of a Imarsana.com/news/coronavIrus-pandemIc'>CoronavIrus PandemIc so everyone In government and Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland that Is the snp, needs to get the approach to the Imarsana.com/news/pandemIc-rIght'>PandemIc RIght and as we emerge from that, what we want to do Is be able to hold a referendum at that stage. Is be able to hold a referendum at that staIe. , Is be able to hold a referendum at that stage that stage. Heaven forfend that should be a that stage. Heaven forfend that should be a reversal that stage. Heaven forfend that should be a reversal on that stage. Heaven forfend that should be a reversal on the I should be a reversal on the pandemIc, It would defInItely be wIthIn the lIfetIme of thIs parlIament . Absolutely. So you put forward legIslatIon for an Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum and Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson emphatIcally saId thIs mornIng In the daIly telegraph that thatIs mornIng In the daIly telegraph that that Is not goIng to happen. But wIth a Strategy Beat for the pro Independence partIes . We wIth a Strategy Beat for the proIndependence partIes . We do not have ruled by proIndependence partIes . We do not have ruled by daIly proIndependence partIes . We do not have ruled by daIly Imarsana.com/news/telegraph-proIndependence'>Telegraph ProIndependence partIes . We do not have ruled by daIly Imarsana.com/news/telegraph-year'>Telegraph Year I have ruled by daIly Imarsana.com/news/telegraph-year'>Telegraph Year Imarsana.com/news/festIval-and-borIsjohnson'>FestIval And BorIsjohnson says one thIng and says another thIng another day. Were stIll waItIng for the fInaImarsana.com/news/l-result'>L Results In thIs electIon. figs fInaImarsana.com/news/l-result'>L Results In thIs electIon. As ou fInaImarsana.com/news/l-result'>L Results In thIs electIon. As you saId yourself that thIs Is a wIn for the snp. You saId yourself that thIs Is a wIn for the snp you saId yourself that thIs Is a wIn for the snp. A,. ,. ,. , for the snp. More Importantly than that Im confIdent for the snp. More Importantly than that Im confIdent there for the snp. More Importantly than that Im confIdent there wIll for the snp. More Importantly than that Im confIdent there wIll be for the snp. More Importantly than that Im confIdent there wIll be a I that Im confIdent there wIll be a pro Imarsana.com/news/Independence-majorIty'>Independence MajorIty In the parlIament. In a normal democracy what happens Is what the people vote for Is what they get. When the parlIament wIth that majorIty legIslates for them to be an Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum It wIll be for the uk prIme mInIster to then say eIther I respect democracy In Imarsana.com/news/scotland-and-respect'>Scotland And Respect devolutIon or he wIll have to take legal actIon to block democracy Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. I thInk he would be badly advIsed to do that for a number of reasons. At the moment what Is an Imarsana.com/news/Independence-problem'>Independence Problem for hIm morphs then Into a democracy problem. Notjust domestIcally but InternatIonally. The rest of the world wIll look at the uk and say goodness, thIs uk prIme mInIster In government that goes around the world sayIng It Is a force for democracy and the Rule Of Law Is actually blockIng democracy In the uk and that would be damagIng for the standIng of the uk InternatIonally. For the standIng of the uk InternatIonally. For the standIng of the uk InternatIonall. ,. , , InternatIonally. You have the Issue of consent and InternatIonally. You have the Issue of consent and essentIally InternatIonally. You have the Issue of consent and essentIally If of consent and essentIally If scotland does not gIve Its consent to be ruled then It Is a legaImarsana.com/news/l-questIon'>L QuestIon and surely what Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson would do Isjust hand It straIght to the courts. He johnson would do Isjust hand It straIght to the courts. Johnson would do Isjust hand It straIght to the courts. He may do but ust straIght to the courts. He may do but just dealIng straIght to the courts. He may do but just dealIng wIth straIght to the courts. He may do butjust dealIng wIth basIc butjust dealIng wIth basIc prIncIples, If hIs aIm Is to retaIn the unIted kIngdom as a unItary state surely he has to do that on the basIs of consent and not by Imarsana.com/news/force-and-law'>Force And Law or gunboat. Why are we headIng In all of thIs . Where were headIng In all of thIs . Where were headIng helpfully Is for a prIme mInIster who Is goIng to snap out of It and recognIse that hIs party lost the electIon and congratulate Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon and the snp and accept that If there Is a majorIty In thIs parlIament for an Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum and that Is what should happen. Referendum and that Is what should ha en. , referendum and that Is what should ha. En,. ,. , referendum and that Is what should ha en,. ,. ,. , referendum and that Is what should hauen. ,. ,. , referendum and that Is what should ha en,. ,. ,. ,. , happen. You go all the way wIth that and It ends up happen. You go all the way wIth that and It ends up In happen. You go all the way wIth that and It ends up In the happen. You go all the way wIth that and It ends up In the supreme happen. You go all the way wIth that and It ends up In the Imarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court| and It ends up In the Imarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court and It ends up In the Imarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court and a judge wIll decIde agaInst you and a judge wIll decIde agaInst you and then, what then . On thIs day when we are headIng for a tremendous Imarsana.com/news/snp-result'>Snp Result I am goIng to put my faIth In democracy and hope, perhaps agaInst eye and perhaps other people plus my better nature, that borIsjohnson wIll respect democracy. How about that . InterestIng to lIsten to that exchange on what could happen and what optIons there may be. We wIll be back wIth kIrsty shortly. We were talkIng earlIer about the pIcture across england In the local authorItIes and some of the bIg mayoral Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest stIll to come today and one thIng we were able to share last nIght whIch I would lIke to chIll you agaIn now Is the projected natIonal share of the vote and thIs Is what Imarsana.com/news/sIrjohn-curtIs'>SIrjohn CurtIs and hIs team have produced, whIch Is basIcally a protected share for the torIes, labour, lIb dems and others based on the local Imarsana.com/news/electIon-result'>ElectIon Results In england, as If there had been a Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon, but crucIally the pattern of votIng It Is based on Is on the local electIons themselves, so there Is a very bIg qualIfIcatIon here whIch Is why you see the lIb dems on I7 whIch clearly doesnt tally wIth the current Imarsana.com/news/opInIon-polls'>OpInIon Polls but It shows the torIes On 36 and labour on 29. There was some Imarsana.com/news/dIsagreement-yesterday'>DIsagreement Yesterday among some people we spoke to In labour, some sayIng we have seen a 12 Imarsana.com/news/poInt-gap'>PoInt Gap so If It Is a seven Imarsana.com/news/poInt-gap'>PoInt Gap It Is as bad as we thought, It Is not great but It Is not as bad as we thought. But as one thIng we can dIscuss wIth my next guest. If I can show you the Labour Losses In terms of local authorItIes In england, we have harlow, whIch went to the conservatIves, and then rossendale In the north of england, sheffIeld and plymouth. All of those lost control to no overall control. Four notable losses there as well. I would lIke to speak to the shadow busIness mInIster. Good afternoon. Thanks forjoInIng us. Goad thanks for oInIng us. Good thanks forjoInIng us. Good afternoon. StartIng thanks forjoInIng us. Good afternoon. StartIng wIth. Thanks forjoInIng us. Good| afternoon. StartIng wIth the thanks forjoInIng us. Good afternoon. StartIng wIth the fact that there have afternoon. StartIng wIth the fact that there have been afternoon. StartIng wIth the fact that there have been some afternoon. StartIng wIth the fact that there have been some successes for labour. It Is not all black, all dark. Steve rotherham was tellIng us about hIs great success In lIverpool and clearly you have other results to look forward to may be In manchester and elsewhere however as Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer saId It was dIsappoIntIng, hartlepool and other results. Where do you stand today on the kInd of need for change whIch Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer was tellIng us yesterday . I Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer was tellIng us yesterday . KeIr starmer was tellIng us esterda . ~. ,. ,. , yesterday . I thInk overall when you look at the Imarsana.com/news/dIstrIbutIon-yesterday'>DIstrIbutIon Yesterday . I thInk overall when you look at the dIstrIbutIon of yesterday . I thInk overall when you look at the dIstrIbutIon of where look at the dIstrIbutIon of where the votes are these are dIsappoIntIng results for us. Yes, we are labour Is In power and where we are labour Is In power and where we are labour Is In power and where we are able to show what we can do In power and how we can transform peoples lIes In power and how we can transform peoples tIes for the better In wales and lIverpool and hopefully In manchester where Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham Is very popular, we have added on votes In some cases as well. Peoples lIves. DIsappoIntIng results In a by electIon and other councIl areas where we need to be makIng progress If we are to be serIous about wInnIng the next Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon, so theres a lot there for us to absorb. It Is very clear that we do need to accelerate the change In the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party but also the vIsIon we have for the country and how we communIcate that across to people and gettIng out there and wInnIng those votes because for too long as a Imarsana.com/news/natIonal-party'>NatIonal Party we have been talkIng to ourselves, lookIng and wrote some of the tIme. We have not been addressIng the bIg Issues people want us to address. They want a dIfferent type of economy that gIves them decentjobs and secure homes. They want a Imarsana.com/news/world-class-educatIon'>World Class EducatIon system and a socIal Imarsana.com/news/care-system-fIt'>Care System FIt for purpose and we have not been talkIng enough about those thIngs so wIth a Imarsana.com/news/polIcy-revIew'>PolIcy RevIew and an accelerated pace of change In settIng out those bIg Ideas to change the country for the better I thInk Is what Is goIng to come out of these electIons. ThInk Is what Is goIng to come out of these electIons. VIewers Need A bIt of help of of these electIons. VIewers Need A bIt of help of some of these electIons. VIewers Need A bIt of help of some of of these electIons. VIewers Need A bIt of help of some of thIs of these electIons. VIewers need Imarsana.com/news/aj-bIt'>Aj BIt of help of some of thIs because we were talkIng about It yesterday, when Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer Is talkIng about changes, some wIthIn weeks, It was dIffIcult to get a sense from people as to what that could be. I was talkIng about major changes In the front Imarsana.com/news/bench-team'>Bench Team . Clear polIcy changes . Cultural changes . These cannot be done In weeks. What would you say to vIewers about what they can expect . You say to vIewers about what they can meet . Can expect . You are absolutely rIuht. Can expect . You are absolutely rIght lets can expect . You are absolutely rIght. Lets be can expect . You are absolutely rIght. Lets be honest, can expect . You are absolutely rIght. Lets be honest, the rIght. Lets be honest, the so called Imarsana.com/news/red-wall'>Red Wall If you lIke has been crumblIng for 20 years and people have been movIng away from labour for a people have been movIng away from labourfor a long people have been movIng away from labourfora longtIme due to alIenatIon, dIsaffectIon wIth the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party, deIndustrIalIsatIon, wantIng change for theIr area and not seeIng labour as offerIng that change. The Imarsana.com/news/brexIt-vote'>BrexIt Vote was a symptom of wantIng change and more control over theIr lIves and we have not been answerIng that call and thatIs not been answerIng that call and that Is what we have today. If It was easy, lookIng at the people around the Top Table by lookIng at a few polIcIes, If It was that easy we would have done It by now. ThIs Is a much more profound challenge we face, and electoral challenge lIke No Other we have faced before and we are up agaInst an opponent In the conservatIve party that Is In many ways parked theIr tanks on our lawn, seemIngly offerIng, superfIcIally I would say, peoplejobs seemIngly offerIng, superfIcIally I would say, people jobs and Imarsana.com/news/Investment-and-spendIng'>Investment And SpendIng money In the areas they would not tradItIonally have done, so thIs presents us wIth a bIg challenge, but we are up to that. No one Is under any IllusIon about how bIg a challenge that Is and we belIeve that we have the vIsIon and the Idea Is to really change thIs country for the better and address some of those deep InequalItIes we have seen exposed durIng thIs pandemIc and we wIll be drawIng on the best of labour In power, what has happened In wales and Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester to develop those Ideas goIng forward. It Is kIrsty here those Ideas goIng forward. It Is kIrsty here. You those Ideas goIng forward. It Is kIrsty here. You talk about developIng vIsIons and Ideas. I want to take you through our lIst. 2010 ed mIlIband, 2012 to 2015 Imarsana.com/news/labour-polIcy'>Labour PolIcy forum, 2014, 2016 margaret beckett, 2017 Imarsana.com/news/polIcy-revIew'>PolIcy RevIew, 2019 Imarsana.com/news/lucy-powell'>Lucy Powell after you lost the electIon and so on. It Is lIke permanent revolutIon. Endless Imarsana.com/news/polIcy-revIew'>PolIcy RevIews. You have actually not developed any real and lastIng strategy that you can sell on the doorstep and actually If you talk about the conservatIves parkIng theIr tanks on your loans, they are delIverIng on polIcIes you could not. ~. ,. ,. , not. Where we are In power we are delIverIn not. Where we are In power we are delIverIng on not. Where we are In power we are delIverIng on those not. Where we are In power we are delIverIng on those but not. Where we are In power we are delIverIng on those but obvIously l delIverIng on those but obvIously from our posItIon that presents a dIfferent challenge and we are facIng a dIfferent polItIcal context under dIfferent electoral challenge to the one before and you are rIght to the one before and you are rIght to say we have made prevIous attempts to do thIs. We are four electIons we have lost In a row and some of these long term changes to our electoral coalItIon that has been supported labour for such a longtIme Is completely been supported labour for such a long tIme Is completely fractured been supported labour for such a longtIme Is completely fractured In recent years partIcularly catalysed by brexIt and other Issues but It Is not as straIghtforward as brexIt beIng over, we have a new leader and It Is goIng to snap Into place. We have heard that tIme and agaIn, be more patrIotIc, Stand Up for the workIng person. TalkIng about standIng up for the workIng person that was what Imarsana.com/news/gordon-brown'>Gordon Brown was talkIng about 12 years ago. Yeah, and It Is not talkIng about 12 years ago. Yeah, and It Is not workIng, talkIng about 12 years ago. Yeah, and It Is not workIng, Is talkIng about 12 years ago. Yeah, and It Is not workIng, Is It . TalkIng about 12 years ago. Yeah, and It Is not workIng, Is It . That| and It Is not workIng, Is It . That Is the poInt. These are real challenges for labour. I do not know how many tImes I can see that In the same way. These Imarsana.com/news/electIon-result'>ElectIon Results are part of a slIde, a dIffIcult declIne In many parts of the country, albeIt we are doIng better than other places, so here In manchester, but It Is no good for us just to add on more votes In cItIes lIke here In manchester If we are losIng votes on the other parts of the country. That Is why we do Need A really fresh look at that but It has to start wIth vIsIon, dIrectIon, and that Is what Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer Is goIng to accelerate over the comIng weeks. It has been a dIffIcult year comIng on as a new leader durIng a pandemIc and not beIng able to do the usual polItIcal actIvItIes of goIng out and speakIng to people, goIng round the country gIvIng speeches, havIng debates wIth people, It had not been the usual year and he has been focused on tryIng to be a constructIve opposItIon and these electIons have come at Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of that perIod, but that Is no excuse. We do have a mountaIn to clImb. Here Is under no IllusIon about the heIght of that mountaIn that we have two clImb but I belIeve that we have the rIght values to change thIs country for the better. We have seen durIng thIs pandemIc those deep InequalItIes In our socIety, health, wealth, publIc servIces, exposed, and the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party has the rIght values and Ideas and vIsIon to address those and at the moment the Tory Party look lIke they are addressIng those that fundamentally they do just belIeve that Market Forces alone would address them but we do not thInk that. That Is the basIs of the change we are talkIng about and how we are goIng get to able dIvIsIon that addresses those Issues that I thInk people care about. ~ , Issues that I thInk people care about. , , about. VIckIjung here, pIckIng up on that, about. VIckIjung here, pIckIng up on that. Lord about. VIckIjung here, pIckIng up on that, Imarsana.com/news/lord-mandelson'>Lord Mandelson about. VIckIjung here, pIckIng up| on that, Imarsana.com/news/lord-mandelson'>Lord Mandelson yesterday talked about labour not beIng able to make a cultural connectIon wIth places lIke hartlepool and also your colleague who resIgned from the front bench last month saId, my vIew Is sImple, labour has lost touch wIth ordInary brItIsh people, a london based bourgeoIsIe wIth the support of Imarsana.com/news/socIal-medIa'>SocIal MedIa warrIors has effectIvely captured the party. I know you would not put yourself In that category but do you thInk that Is more of a fundamental problem and actually Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer Is goIng to have to say thIngs to party members they mIght not want to hear . I would auree they mIght not want to hear . I would a. Ree wIth they mIght not want to hear . I would agree wIth some they mIght not want to hear . I would agree wIth some of they mIght not want to hear . I would agree wIth some of that. They mIght not want to hear . I would agree wIth some of that. We they mIght not want to hear . I would agree wIth some of that. We have. Agree wIth some of that. We have been too focused on the Imarsana.com/news/westmInster-bubble'>WestmInster Bubble and we are a bIt london centrIc. ObvIously I am a very proud mancunIan sol centrIc. ObvIously I am a very proud mancunIan so I would not put myself In that bracket and there are many people across the labour movement, we represent the places where we were born and we are very passIonate about that as well. These are Issues we have to look at. We have spent too long doIng that. Also I thInk In our past as well, even when we were In government, our economIc model at that tIme was we thought trIckle down economIcs would eventually reach all parts of the country and thatIs reach all parts of the country and that Is why places lIke hartlepool or doncaster, that Is why In Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End they have become merely wIth the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party because that trIckle down economIcs experIment dId not work for places lIke that so we Need A more actIve Imarsana.com/news/root-and-branch'>Root And Branch change to how our economy works that has that actIve partnershIp between Imarsana.com/news/government-and-busIness'>Government And BusIness to create jobs and wealth for all parts of the country, and that has to be central to what the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party stands for and It Is somethIng we dId not get rIght when we were In government all the tIme but It Is somethIng we have to address and look at goIng forward. You have been very generous wIth your tIme. Thanks so much for answerIng all our questIons. It Is nIce not to answerIng all our questIons. It Is nIce not to be answerIng all our questIons. It Is nIce not to be In answerIng all our questIons. It Is nIce not to be In my answerIng all our questIons. It 3 nIce not to be In my kItchen for once, to be honest, doIng these IntervIews I once, to be honest, doIng these IntervIews once, to be honest, doIng these IntervIews I was goIng to say, It Is a nIce backdrop. IntervIews I was goIng to say, It Is a nIce backdrop. She IntervIews I was goIng to say, It Is a nIce backdrop. She had IntervIews I was goIng to say, It Is a nIce backdrop. She had a IntervIews I was goIng to say, It l Is a nIce backdrop. She had a poInt about the kItchen, because we have had a year of kItchens. That was InterestIng, because of the way that there were lots of new rInses In her answers. You raIsed that quote agaIn about the perceptIons of some people of where the party has gone wrong. I stIll do not quIte know what was meant yesterday by changes that would be clear wIthIn weeks or possIblyjust would be clear wIthIn weeks or possIbly just a few would be clear wIthIn weeks or possIblyjust a few months. If It Is not a Imarsana.com/news/polIcy-revIew'>PolIcy RevIew, whIch Is not goIng to set the Imarsana.com/news/world-alIght'>World AlIght ImmedIately, what are we talkIng about . ,. ,. ,. ,. , about . There Is goIng to be another olI about . There Is goIng to be another Imarsana.com/news/polIcy-revIew'>PolIcy RevIew about . There Is goIng to be another Imarsana.com/news/polIcy-revIew'>PolIcy RevIew and about . There Is goIng to be another Imarsana.com/news/polIcy-revIew'>PolIcy RevIew and lucy about . There Is goIng to be another Imarsana.com/news/polIcy-revIew'>PolIcy RevIew and lucy was about . There Is goIng to be another Imarsana.com/news/polIcy-revIew'>PolIcy RevIew and lucy was one about . There Is goIng to be another Imarsana.com/news/polIcy-revIew'>PolIcy RevIew and lucy was one of. PolIcy Imarsana.com/news/revIew-and-lucy'>RevIew And Lucy was one of those who went Into great depth about what went wrong on the 2019 Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon. We have been here before and we are stIll waItIng for the answers. It goes back to what Imarsana.com/news/steve-rotherham'>Steve Rotherham was seeIng about where labour are In power and are close to those voters and understand what they want, maybe there Is some more success there, but that Is dIffIcult because In lots of places where are not In power and have not beenIn where are not In power and have not been In power natIonally for such a longtIme and there Is a bIg Issue here because you have a conservatIve government whIch Is doIng thIngs dIfferently, partly forced on them because of the huge amount of spendIng they have had to put In, bIllIons and bIllIons because of the pandemIc, but borIsjohnson Is an InterventIonIst who lIkes bIg projects and he wants to spend more money. Whether the treasury wIll let hIm do that Is another Imarsana.com/news/matter-but-thatIs'>Matter But ThatIs hIm do that Is another matter but that Is the way he Is goIng on that wIll make It harderfor that Is the way he Is goIng on that wIll make It harder for labour who are goIng to have to come up wIth somethIng else. Peter mandelson talkIng about somethIng dIfferent, that understandIng that workIng class people In those places are patrIotIc and do not mInd a bIt of flag wavIng. People on the left of flag wavIng. People on the left of the party In labour actually dont thInk that Is a good thIng. That constant dIlemma and Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer Is goIng to have to fInd a way through. TIme for the news wIth martIne croxall. fix. TIme for the news wIth martIne croxall. � ,. , tIme for the news wIth martIne croxall. � ,. ,. ,. , croxall. A summary of the news now. The snp Is expected croxall. A summary of the news now. The snp Is expected to croxall. A summary of the news now. The snp Is expected to wIn croxall. A summary of the news now. The snp Is expected to wIn a croxall. A summary of the news now. The snp Is expected to wIn a fourth l the snp Is expected to wIn a fourth term Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland wIth leader Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon admItted the prospect of an majorIty Is on a Imarsana.com/news/knIfe-edge'>KnIfe Edge. In Imarsana.com/news/wales-labour'>Wales Labour have retaIned control of the Imarsana.com/news/senedd-and-labour'>Senedd And Labour In england has won three electIons In tynesIde lIverpool. The has won three electIons In tynesIde lIverool. ,. ,. ,. , lIverpool. The followIng candIdate Is duly elected. LIverpool. The followIng candIdate Is duly elected. And lIverpool. The followIng candIdate Is duly elected. And other lIverpool. The followIng candIdate Is duly elected. And other seats| Is duly elected. And other seats for the snp, Is duly elected. And other seats for the snp, aberdeenshIre Is duly elected. And other seats for the snp, Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-east'>AberdeenshIre East| Is duly elected. And other seats I for the snp, Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-east'>AberdeenshIre East but wIthIn Imarsana.com/news/snp-majorIty'>Snp MajorIty on a Imarsana.com/news/knIfe-edge'>KnIfe Edge It Is Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West they hope to take from the toys thIs afternoon. The party pushIng back on borIsjohnson and hIs claIm that a further Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum would be reckless. That further Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum would be reckless. Further Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum would be reckless. At Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the Imarsana.com/news/da-borIs'>Da BorIs would be reckless. At Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the day Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson would be reckless. At Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the day Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson and would be reckless. At Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the day Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson and I would be reckless. At Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the day Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson and I wIll day Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson and I wIll dIsagree on the rIghts and wrongs of Independence but surely wIth can agree Independence but surely wIth can agree on Independence but surely wIth can agree on the fact It should be a questIon agree on the fact It should be a questIon put to the people of scotland. That Is the nature of democracy and that Is what we argue for rIght democracy and that Is what we argue for rIght now. Democracy and that Is what we argue for rIght nova for rIght now. BorIs johnson popped u. For rIght now. BorIs johnson popped u In for rIght now. BorIs johnson popped up In hartlepool for rIght now. BorIs johnson popped up In Imarsana.com/news/hartlepool-yesterday'>Hartlepool Yesterday for rIght now. BorIs johnson popped up In Imarsana.com/news/hartlepool-yesterday'>Hartlepool Yesterday makIng l up In Imarsana.com/news/hartlepool-yesterday'>Hartlepool Yesterday makIng further strIdes In england. As the torIes dIggIng over Its stance on scottIsh Independence. The questIon Is whether the scottIsh Independence. The questIon Is whether the snp scottIsh Independence. The questIon Is whether the snp wIll scottIsh Independence. The questIon Is whether the snp wIll get scottIsh Independence. The questIon Is whether the snp wIll get a Is whether the snp wIll get a majorIty Is whether the snp wIll get a majorIty and we wIll have to see. Uk Imarsana.com/news/govemInent-majorIty'>GovemInent MajorIty and we wIll have to see. Uk Imarsana.com/news/government-posItIon'>Government PosItIon Is clear that we do not Imarsana.com/news/government-posItIon'>Government PosItIon Is clear that we do not thInk Imarsana.com/news/government-posItIon'>Government PosItIon Is clear that we do not thInk there Is a case for another do not thInk there Is a case for another referendum partIcularly now as we another referendum partIcularly now as we try another referendum partIcularly now as we try to another referendum partIcularly now as we try to chart our way out of pandemIc as we try to chart our way out of pandemIc and get the economy goIng. Lahour pandemIc and get the economy goIng. Labour have pandemIc and get the economy goIng. Labour have woes In england and they put leader Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer under pressure at the party Is set to announce a major Imarsana.com/news/polIcy-revIew'>PolIcy RevIew. But In wales a boost for labour keepIng power wIth celebratIons bIg and small but how to move forward across the uk . ,. ,. , the uk . The seats that we were concerned the uk . The seats that we were concerned about the uk . The seats that we were concerned about where the uk . The seats that we were concerned about where those I the uk . The seats that we were l concerned about where those that the uk . The seats that we were concerned about where those that we lost to concerned about where those that we lost to the concerned about where those that we lost to the conservatIves less than a year lost to the conservatIves less than a year ago lost to the conservatIves less than a year ago In the Imarsana.com/news/december-2019-general'>December 2019 General a year ago In the Imarsana.com/news/december-2019-general'>December 2019 General electIon. We managed to wIn back the Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon. We managed to wIn back the seats by workIng really hard back the seats by workIng really hard here back the seats by workIng really hard here In wales but clearly we stIll have hard here In wales but clearly we stIll have more to go In england but Im optImIstIc that we can get there and desperate to see a Imarsana.com/news/uk-labour'>Uk Labour prIme and desperate to see a Imarsana.com/news/uk-labour'>Uk Labour prIme mInIster. The and desperate to see a Imarsana.com/news/uk-labour'>Uk Labour prIme mInIster. PrIme mInIster. The greens are traInIn prIme mInIster. The greens are gaInIng ground prIme mInIster. The greens are gaInIng ground In prIme mInIster. The greens are gaInIng ground In the prIme mInIster. The greens are gaInIng ground In the englIsh I prIme mInIster. The greens are I gaInIng ground In the englIsh local electIons whIle countIng In some country races Is In the fInal stretch wIth results In the Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands and manchester expected thIs afternoon. fight mIdlands and manchester expected thIs afternoon. ThIs afternoon. And man has been arrested on thIs afternoon. And man has been arrested on suspIcIon thIs afternoon. And man has been arrested on suspIcIon of thIs afternoon. And man has been arrested on suspIcIon of murder. Arrested on suspIcIon of murder followIng the death of a Imarsana.com/news/polIce-communIty-support'>PolIce CommunIty Support offIcer In kent. 53 year old Imarsana.com/news/julIa-james'>JulIa James was found In woodland near dover last month after takIng her dog for a walk. Some of brItaIns busIest raIl servIces have been suspended after haIrlIne cracks were found on hIgh speed traIns. The operators of lner, great western Imarsana.com/news/raIlway-and-trans'>RaIlway And Trans pennIne express have warned passengers of major dIsruptIon whIle safety checks are carrIed out. A Imarsana.com/news/busIness-correspondence-katIe'>BusIness Correspondence KatIe aston Is here. What Is the Imarsana.com/news/state-of-play'>State Of Play at the moment . At the moment . Some of these servIces are at the moment . Some of these servIces are comIng at the moment . Some of these servIces are comIng back at the moment . Some of these servIces are comIng back now. At the moment . Some of these I servIces are comIng back now Into Imarsana.com/news/actIon-today'>ActIon Today but dIsruptIon wIll carry on we thInk for a whIle especIally on the great western raIlway. AccordIng to the Imarsana.com/news/raIl-mInIster'>RaIl MInIster cracks up been IdentIfIed on parts of the chassIs of some traIns and as a result of that they have been taken out of servIce as a precautIonary measure. That Is what hItachI who made these heIghts beat traIns descrIbed It as an they apologIsed to passengers whose travel plans have been affected. As we were sayIng thIs Is a type of traIn that Is quIte new and used on quIte a few networks. Lner goes from london as fInal north as edInburgh and york and the great western network and Imarsana.com/news/trans-pennIne'>Trans PennIne as well so although the raIl networks are relatIvely quIet at the moment wIth not as many passengers or traIns as normally there would be there has been a lot of dIsruptIon for people who expected to travel today. But goIng forward even If, we do not actually know the extent of thIs Issue and whether havIng examIned all the traIns whether they found thIs problem In any more of them but we do know that the Imarsana.com/news/raIlway-mInIster'>RaIlway MInIster has asked the Imarsana.com/news/raIl-Industry'>RaIl Industry to conduct a rapId encumbrance compressIve revIew to resolve thIs Issue. ,. ,. ,. , Issue. Just a remInder that for coverage Issue. Just a remInder that for coverage of Issue. Just a remInder that for coverage of the Issue. Just a remInder that for coverage of the electIon Issue. Just a remInder that for. Coverage of the Imarsana.com/news/electIon-result'>ElectIon Results Issue. Just a remInder that for coverage of the Imarsana.com/news/electIon-result'>ElectIon Results as they come In and Imarsana.com/news/expert-analysIs'>Expert AnalysIs of what they mean for you, you can fInd that on the websIte or the Imarsana.com/news/bbc-news'>Bbc News but now back to electIons 2021. We have back In the studIos here In london and edInburgh wIth a full pIcture In wales. They fInIshed everythIng and we are pleased to say that that has all been tIdIed up and we know exactly what Is goIng on. But a few very Important pIeces of the jIgsaw stIll to come where you are, kIrsty . Are, kIrsty . Absolutely and thIs Is auoIn to are, kIrsty . Absolutely and thIs Is goIng to be are, kIrsty . Absolutely and thIs Is goIng to be a are, kIrsty . Absolutely and thIs Is goIng to be a very are, kIrsty . Absolutely and thIs Is goIng to be a very excItIng goIng to be a very excItIng afternoon. To fInd out more about what we can look forward to here Is davId Imarsana.com/news/wallace-lock'>Wallace Lock out. ThIs what we can look forward to here Is davId Imarsana.com/news/wallace-lock'>Wallace Lock out. DavId Imarsana.com/news/wallace-lock'>Wallace Lock out. ThIs Is how thIn. S davId Imarsana.com/news/wallace-lock'>Wallace Lock out. ThIs Is how thIngs currently davId Imarsana.com/news/wallace-lock'>Wallace Lock out. ThIs Is how thIngs currently sIt davId Imarsana.com/news/wallace-lock'>Wallace Lock out. ThIs Is how thIngs currently sIt In davId Imarsana.com/news/wallace-lock'>Wallace Lock out. ThIs Is how thIngs currently sIt Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. ThIngs currently sIt Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. The snp thIngs currently sIt Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. The snp on 47 seats, the lIb dems on four seats the snp on 47 seats, the lIb dems on four seats In the snp on 47 seats, the lIb dems on four seats In the 773, Imarsana.com/news/labour-have'>Labour Have two and four seats In the 773, Imarsana.com/news/labour-have'>Labour Have two and the four seats In the 773, Imarsana.com/news/labour-have'>Labour Have two and the greens do not yet have any seats two and the greens do not yet have any seats but remember that the majorIty any seats but remember that the majorIty of tory, labour and green Imarsana.com/news/seats-majorIty'>Seats MajorIty of tory, labour and green seats wIlImarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty of tory, labour and green seats wIll come wIth a regIonal Imarsana.com/news/lIst-result'>LIst Results seats wIll come wIth a Imarsana.com/news/regIonal-lIst'>RegIonal LIst Imarsana.com/news/results-l'>Results Later today. Lets take a look Imarsana.com/news/results-l'>Results Later today. Lets take a look at Imarsana.com/news/results-l'>Results Later today. Lets take a look at how that translates Into a constItuency mat. Lots of Imarsana.com/news/snp-yellow'>Snp Yellow constItuency mat. Lots of Imarsana.com/news/snp-yellow'>Snp Yellow. An outrIght majorIty stIll In the yellow. An outrIght majorIty stIll In the balance. The path to that majorIty In the balance. The path to that majorIty Is In the balance. The path to that majorIty Is lookIng narrow but they have made majorIty Is lookIng narrow but they have made three key games so far and are gettIng have made three key games so far and are gettIng close. We start wIth Imarsana.com/news/edInburgh-central'>EdInburgh Central whIch was conservatIve but Imarsana.com/news/angus-robertson'>Angus Robertson has been returned wIth quIte a healthy majorIty been returned wIth quIte a healthy majorIty there. CrossIng to the other majorIty there. CrossIng to the other Imarsana.com/news/sIde-majorIty'>SIde MajorIty there. CrossIng to the other sIde of scotland the snp have also snatched another constItuency away from also snatched another constItuency away from the torIes, just 170 votes In It that away from the torIes, just 170 votes In It that a away from the torIes, just 170 votes In It that a key game for the snp In ayr who In It that a key game for the snp In ayr who unseated a conservatIve who Is how ayr who unseated a conservatIve who Is how the ayr who unseated a conservatIve who Is how the seat for 20 years. CrossIng Is how the seat for 20 years. CrossIng to Imarsana.com/news/east-lothIan'>East LothIan now to the east of crossIng to Imarsana.com/news/east-lothIan'>East LothIan now to the east of the crossIng to Imarsana.com/news/east-lothIan'>East LothIan now to the east of the scottIsh capItal and the snp has east of the scottIsh capItal and the snp has secured a seat that has been lahour snp has secured a seat that has been labour sInce snp has secured a seat that has been labour sInce devolutIon In 1999, labour sInce devolutIon In1999, another labour sInce devolutIon In 1999, another great result for them but other another great result for them but other games for the snp never materIalIsed. One example was dumbarton whIch was the most margInal dumbarton whIch was the most margInal constItuency Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland wIth labour holdIng It byjust 109 wIth labour holdIng It byjust109 votes wIth labour holdIng It byjust109 votes In wIth labour holdIng It byjust109 votes In 2016. Labour actually Increased votes In 2016. Labour actually Increased theIr majorIty to almost 1500 Increased theIr majorIty to almost 1500 lets Increased theIr majorIty to almost 1500. Lets take a look at what happened 1500. Lets take a look at what happened wIth the Imarsana.com/news/vote-share'>Vote Share there. The conservatIves down by 6 , labour up the conservatIves down by 6 , labour up by the conservatIves down by 6 , labour up by 6 , the conservatIves down by 6 , labour up by 6 , thIs Is not the only seat where up by 6 , thIs Is not the only seat where It up by 6 , thIs Is not the only seat where It appears that some Imarsana.com/news/tactIcal-votIng'>TactIcal VotIng where It appears that some Imarsana.com/news/tactIcal-votIng'>TactIcal VotIng happened to keep the snp out. We had votIng happened to keep the snp out. We had a votIng happened to keep the snp out. We had a run of Imarsana.com/news/snp-vote'>Snp Votes sInce countIng we had a run of Imarsana.com/news/snp-vote'>Snp Votes sInce countIng was today but If the snp Is to get countIng was today but If the snp Is to get a countIng was today but If the snp Is to get a majorIty Is hard to see how they could to get a majorIty Is hard to see how they could do It wIthout wInnIng here they could do It wIthout wInnIng here. AberdeenshIre west was a conservatIve majorIty last tIme of ust conservatIve majorIty last tIme of just 900 conservatIve majorIty last tIme of just 900 votes In the tory Imarsana.com/news/Incumbent-alexander'>Incumbent Alexander just 900 votes In the tory Incumbent Imarsana.com/news/alexander-burnett'>Alexander Burnett wIll hope to be clIngIng Imarsana.com/news/alexander-burnett'>Alexander Burnett wIll hope to be clIngIng on. Lets take a look at the map clIngIng on. Lets take a look at the map here In the atrIum of the bbc In the map here In the atrIum of the bbc In glasgow and every seat In Imarsana.com/news/scotland-bbc'>Scotland Bbc In glasgow and every seat Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland represented to look the same scotland represented to look the same sIze. We can look at Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West, that could be key. AberdeenshIre west, that could be key If Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West, that could be key If the Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West, that could be key. If the snp can turn the centre of that key. If the snp can turn the centre of that seat key. If the snp can turn the centre of that seat yellow Imarsana.com/news/belly-majorIty'>Belly MajorIty looks of that seat yellow Imarsana.com/news/belly-majorIty'>Belly MajorIty looks possIble but If It feels In blue looks possIble but If It feels In blue than the snp may falljust short blue than the snp may falljust short when the regIonal Imarsana.com/news/lIst-seat'>LIst Seats are announced and these wIll be announced later today. 56 of the 120 seats announced later today. 56 of the 120 seats In announced later today. 56 of the 120 seats In holyrood comIng from the lIst and seats In holyrood comIng from the lIst and thIs Is where we should see the Imarsana.com/news/bulk-lIst'>Bulk LIst and thIs Is where we should see the bulk of lIst and thIs Is where we should see the bulk of conservatIve, labour and green the bulk of conservatIve, labour and green snp the bulk of conservatIve, labour and green snp Is returned. It could be dIffIcult green snp Is returned. It could be dIffIcult for the snp to delIver many dIffIcult for the snp to delIver many seats on thIs lIst gIven theIr Imarsana.com/news/constItuency-performance'>ConstItuency Performance so far. Thank Imarsana.com/news/constItuency-performance'>ConstItuency Performance so far. Thank you Imarsana.com/news/constItuency-performance'>ConstItuency Performance so far. Thank you and we can talk now to Imarsana.com/news/douglas-ross'>Douglas Ross the leader of the scottIsh conservatIves who joIns us from Inverness. Good afternoon. DealIng wIth the fIrst of two crItIcIsms and In constItuency terms you have lost Imarsana.com/news/ayr-and-edInburgh'>Ayr And EdInburgh central and the crItIcIsm Is that you dId not concentrate hard enough on the constItuencIes and you are too busy focused on the lIsts and that has been a very bIg mIstake so far at least� s rubbIsh I that has been a very bIg mIstake so far at Imarsana.com/news/leasts-rubbIsh'>Leasts RubbIsh far at Imarsana.com/news/leasts-rubbIsh'>Leasts RubbIsh I would say to that. Look far at Imarsana.com/news/leasts-rubbIsh'>Leasts RubbIsh I would say to that. Look at far at Imarsana.com/news/leasts-rubbIsh'>Leasts RubbIsh I would say to that. Look at the far at Imarsana.com/news/leasts-rubbIsh'>Leasts RubbIsh I would say to that. Look at the seat far at Imarsana.com/news/leasts-rubbIsh'>Leasts RubbIsh I would say to that. Look at the seat that far at Imarsana.com/news/leasts-rubbIsh'>Leasts RubbIsh I would say l to that. Look at the seat that weve held on to that. Look at the seat that weve held on to to that. Look at the seat that weve held on to come olIver mundell a great held on to come olIver mundell a great local campaIgn there, someone who has great local campaIgn there, someone who has worked hard to the past fIve years who has worked hard to the past fIve years In who has worked hard to the past fIve years In prIson hIs Imarsana.com/news/vote-share'>Vote Share by 10 ~ years In prIson hIs Imarsana.com/news/vote-share'>Vote Share by 10 . Rachael hamIlton holdIng on, jackson 10 . Rachael hamIlton holdIng on, Imarsana.com/news/jackson-kyla'>Jackson Kyla IncreasIng hIs majorIty. Those that you mentIoned were always goIng to be the more dIffIcult were always goIng to be the more dIffIcult ones to hold onto, Imarsana.com/news/edInburgh-central'>EdInburgh Central, ruth Imarsana.com/news/davIdson-rIn-edInburgh'>DavIdson RIn EdInburgh central, ruth Imarsana.com/news/davIdson-rIng'>DavIdson RIng that Imarsana.com/news/edInburgh-central'>EdInburgh Central, ruth Imarsana.com/news/davIdson-rIng'>DavIdson RIng that from fourth place wIth Imarsana.com/news/ust-rIng'>Ust RIng that from fourth place wIth just 30 rIng that from fourth place wIth just 30 of the vote fIve years ago. And ayr just 30 of the vote fIve years ago. And ayr was just 30 of the vote fIve years ago. And ayr was a smalImarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty back In 2016 and and ayr was a smalImarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty back In 2016 and Imarsana.com/news/john-scott'>John Scott put everythIng Into that 2016 and Imarsana.com/news/john-scott'>John Scott put everythIng Into that and sadlyjust fell short by 170 Into that and sadlyjust fell short by 170 votes. But Into that and sadly ust fell short by no math Into that and sadly ust fell short Imarsana.com/news/by170-voteh'>By170 Voteh Into that and sadly ust fell short by no vets Into that and sadly ust fell short by 170 votes. But you dId lose and one of the by 170 votes. But you dId lose and one of the other by 170 votes. But you dId lose and one of the other crItIcIsms by 170 votes. But you dId lose and one of the other crItIcIsms from I one of the other crItIcIsms from senIor torIes Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland Is the focus of your campaIgn was all about the constItutIon, all about Indyref2 when you should have concentrated theIr say on the thIngs that brought theIr say on the thIngs that brought the uk together, they wIll cover the pandemIc, but vaccInatIon valet program. PandemIc, but vaccInatIon valet ttroram. ,. ,. , program. Your tactIcs were wrong. AtaIn I program. Your tactIcs were wrong. AgaIn I was program. Your tactIcs were wrong. AgaIn I was speakIng program. Your tactIcs were wrong. AgaIn I was speakIng about program. Your tactIcs were wrong. AgaIn I was speakIng about that I agaIn I was speakIng about that durIng agaIn I was speakIng about that durIng the campaIgn. The fellow scheme durIng the campaIgn. The fellow scheme and the self employed Imarsana.com/news/Income-support-scheme'>Income Support Scheme and the self employed Imarsana.com/news/Income-support-scheme'>Income Support Scheme that protected as I saId a Imarsana.com/news/support-scheme'>Support Scheme that protected as I saId a number of tImes more than a mIllIon saId a number of tImes more than a mIllIonIobs saId a number of tImes more than a mIllIonjobs Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland saId a number of tImes more than a mIllIon jobs In Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland At the saId a number of tImes more than a mIllIonjobs In Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland At the peak of the mIllIonjobs In Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland At the peak of the pandemIc and the fact that we have 28 of the pandemIc and the fact that we have 2. 8 mIllIon people now protected wIth at least one dose of the vaccIne. We know that these fIgures the vaccIne. We know that these fIgures have been part of the campaIgn because of course Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon campaIgn because of course Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon durIng one the hustIngs we dId together trIed to claIm that somehow an Independent scotland back In the eu somehow an Independent scotland back In the eu would have done thatjust as successfully so I was not goIng to shy as successfully so I was not goIng to shy away from or Ignore the threat to shy away from or Ignore the threat of to shy away from or Ignore the threat of another Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum gIven the snp had that Imarsana.com/news/front-and-referendum'>Front And Referendum gIven the snp had that Imarsana.com/news/front-and-centre'>Front And Centre of theIr campaIgn. Let Imarsana.com/news/front-and-centre'>Front And Centre of theIr campaIgn. Let me Imarsana.com/news/front-and-centre'>Front And Centre of theIr campaIgn. Let me take Imarsana.com/news/front-and-centre'>Front And Centre of theIr campaIgn. Let me take you back to the prevIous leader of the scottIsh conservatIves wIth davIson now fIndIng her way Into the house of lords. The last electIon she saId thIs Is a 2 Imarsana.com/news/stage-process'>Stage Process for the torIes. WIll be the maIn Imarsana.com/news/opposItIon-festIval'>OpposItIon FestIval and then at the next electIon, thIs one, we wIll become the party of government Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. Youve lost on your own terms. ~. , scotland. Youve lost on your own terms. ,. , scotland. Youve lost on your own terms. S. ,. ,. , scotland. Youve lost on your own terms. ,. ,. ,. , scotland. Youve lost on your own terms. ,. ,. ,. , ,. , terms. We always have to aspIre to that and the terms. We always have to aspIre to that and the work terms. We always have to aspIre to that and the work that terms. We always have to aspIre to that and the work that ruth terms. We always have to aspIre to that and the work that ruth dId terms. We always have to aspIre to that and the work that ruth dId to l that and the work that ruth dId to Ive that and the work that ruth dId to gIve a that and the work that ruth dId to gIve a thIs that and the work that ruth dId to gIve a thIs level has been outstandIng and we have to waIt to see what outstandIng and we have to waIt to see what the fInaImarsana.com/news/l-result'>L Results out today In terms see what the fInaImarsana.com/news/l-result'>L Results out today In terms of see what the fInaImarsana.com/news/l-result'>L Results out today In terms of the outcome for the scottIsh In terms of the outcome for the scottIsh conservatIves but we have seen massIve swIngs to the conservatIves In many parts of the country conservatIves In many parts of the country. Where I am here In the hIghlands country. Where I am here In the Imarsana.com/news/hIghlands-and-Islands'>HIghlands And Islands and across the northeast Imarsana.com/news/hIghlands-and-Islands'>HIghlands And Islands and across the Imarsana.com/news/north-east'>North East and In many parts of scotland Imarsana.com/news/north-east'>North East and In many parts of scotland people have looked at the Imarsana.com/news/snp-and-scotland'>Snp And Scotland people have looked at the snp and change theIr vote to the scottIsh snp and change theIr vote to the scottIsh conservatIves but let us waIt and scottIsh conservatIves but let us waIt and see. PublIc have been very patIent waIt and see. PublIc have been very patIent and waIt and see. PublIc have been very patIent and we just have a few more Imarsana.com/news/hours-patIent'>Hours PatIent and we just have a few more hours to patIent and we just have a few more hours to waIt untIl we know fInal outcome hours to waIt untIl we know fInal outcome. ~. ,. , ,. , outcome. Well the fInal outcome and then the fIreworks outcome. Well the fInal outcome and then the fIreworks ready outcome. Well the fInal outcome and then the fIreworks ready to outcome. Well the fInal outcome and then the fIreworks ready to start then the fIreworks ready to start because we know that the snp are goIng to put forward legIslatIon for Indyref2 and we note that Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson Is Implacably opposed to that. Where do you stand on thIs, your leader of the conservatIves Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland, you have to rule Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland, you have to rule Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland wIth the consent of the people. If you do not have that consent and If the majorIty of the people want Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum then you are goIng agaInst the wIll of the scottIsh people. The Imarsana.com/news/maorIty-tteole'>MaorIty Tteole do of the scottIsh people. The Imarsana.com/news/maorIty-peopte'>MaorIty Peopte do not I of the scottIsh people. The maorIty people do not want I of the scottIsh people. The maorIty people do not want anotherh people do not want another Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum and Indeed many people asked Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon If they could many people asked Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon If they could vote for the snp and that would they could vote for the snp and that would not they could vote for the snp and that would not be taken as a mandate for a second would not be taken as a mandate for a second Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum and on tv In a second Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum and on tv In one a second Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum and on tv In one lIttle debate Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon on tv In one lIttle debate Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon saId that the collapse of the Imarsana.com/news/vote-sturgeon'>Vote Sturgeon saId that the collapse of the vote for her and the snp and the vote would the vote for her and the snp and the vote would not be taken as a proxy for another vote would not be taken as a proxy for another referendum to separate scotland for another referendum to separate scotland from the rest of the uk. DId you scotland from the rest of the uk. DId you hear her say that . I scotland from the rest of the uk. DId you hear her say that . DId you hear her say that . I dId. Because It dId you hear her say that . I dId. Because It Is dId you hear her say that . I dId. Because It Is a dId you hear her say that . I dId. Because It Is a manIfesto because It Is a Imarsana.com/news/manIfesto-commItment'>ManIfesto CommItment. Because It Is a Imarsana.com/news/manIfesto-commItment'>ManIfesto CommItment. ,. , commItment. Let me ust explaIn, glenn commItment. Let me ust explaIn, otenn cempbeuh commItment. Let me ust explaIn, Imarsana.com/news/glenn-campbell'>Glenn Campbell your commItment. Let me just explaIn, Imarsana.com/news/glenn-campbell'>Glenn Campbell your colleague commItment. Let me just explaIn, Imarsana.com/news/glenn-campbell'>Glenn Campbell your colleague In l commItment. Let me just explaIn, I Imarsana.com/news/glenn-campbell'>Glenn Campbell your colleague In Imarsana.com/news/bbc-scotland'>Bbc Scotland Imarsana.com/news/glenn-campbell'>Glenn Campbell your colleague In Imarsana.com/news/bbc-scotland'>Bbc Scotland posted peshmerga hosted the last Imarsana.com/news/leaders-debate'>Leaders Debate and had someone contactIng last Imarsana.com/news/leaders-debate'>Leaders Debate and had someone contactIng hIm sayIng If I want to support contactIng hIm sayIng If I want to support the snp but not Independence than who support the snp but not Independence than who do I vote for and Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon than who do I vote for and Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon saId vote for me, but for the Imarsana.com/news/snp-sturgeon'>Snp Sturgeon saId vote for me, but for the snp therefore tellIng people that theIr vote would not be taken as a mandate for another Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum. Yet that Is all that Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum. Yet that Is all that we Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum. Yet that Is all that we heard from the snp even before all that we heard from the snp even before all all that we heard from the snp even before all the seats had been declared. ,. , declared. She saId that the Independence declared. She saId that the Imarsana.com/news/Independence-Issue'>Independence Issue declared. She saId that the Imarsana.com/news/Independence-Issue'>Independence Issue would | declared. She saId that the I Imarsana.com/news/Independence-Issue'>Independence Issue would be declared. She saId that the Imarsana.com/news/Independence-Issue'>Independence Issue would be resolved Imarsana.com/news/Independence-Issue'>Independence Issue would be resolved In a referendum probably held In 2023. Whats the problem wIth gIvIng people the chance to vote a second referendum and If not then what Is the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament for If the partIes that support an Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum command a majorIty are you goIng to say that that does not matter and that what goes on In the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament Is of no Imarsana.com/news/consequence-and-devolutIon'>Consequence And DevolutIon than essentIally Is of no consequence . Absolutely not, what goes on In the scottIsh absolutely not, what goes on In the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament Is securIng the recovery Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament Is securIng the recovery for Imarsana.com/news/scotland-and-InvestIng'>Scotland And InvestIng In communItIes and makIng sure our economy In communItIes and makIng sure our economy can In communItIes and makIng sure our economy can bounce back from a global economy can bounce back from a global pandemIc. ProtectIng jobs and gettIng global pandemIc. ProtectIng jobs and gettIng down from the worst Imarsana.com/news/death-rate'>Death Rate from gettIng down from the worst Imarsana.com/news/death-rate'>Death Rate from drugs anywhere In europe. These rate from drugs anywhere In europe. These are rate from drugs anywhere In europe. These are all rate from drugs anywhere In europe. These are all Issues that can be a percent these are all Issues that can be a percent of these are all Issues that can be a percent of what we do In the Imarsana.com/news/holyrood-percent'>Holyrood Percent of what we do In the Imarsana.com/news/holyrood-chamber'>Holyrood Chamber of the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament but that wIll not happen of Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-parlIament'>NIcola ParlIament but that wIll not happen of Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon and the Imarsana.com/news/snp-yet-aaIn'>Snp Yet AaIn of Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon and the snp yet agaIn take theIr eye off the ball and be agaIn take theIr eye off the ball and be too focused on Independence. That was and be too focused on Independence. That was thank you. That was thank you. StayIng on the scottIsh theme that was thank you. StayIng on the scottIsh theme because that was thank you. StayIng on the scottIsh theme because It that was thank you. StayIng on the scottIsh theme because It Is that was thank you. StayIng on the scottIsh theme because It Is a that was thank you. StayIng on the scottIsh theme because It Is a very| scottIsh theme because It Is a very rIch theme as we know wIth lots of layers to It and earlIer we had a dIscussIon about the possIbIlItIes around mandate and what kInd of mandate could Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon claIm to have and on what basIs In terms of demandIng a second referendum. Clearly the manIfesto Is sayIng one thIng, how can people defIne what Is a Imarsana.com/news/majorIty-opInIon'>MajorIty OpInIon as there are dIfferent ways of doIng that. And then where would the debate go. BorIsjohnson keeps on sayIng no or not yet and you know, what recourse then does the scottIsh Imarsana.com/news/natIonal-party'>NatIonal Party have and the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament have to take the demand forward If It wIshes to do so. Lets talk to professor nIcola from the unIversIty of edInburgh. ThIs Is a debate that could last a long tIme and thIs Is a debate that could last a longtIme and It could be pretty Intense on each sIde. Lets go back to basIcs, If we may. We have a Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster In Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon after thIs electIon who wIll be claImIng certaInly the mandate Is there, we have borIsjohnson today, wastIng no tIme Insane, no thanks, Is not somethIng I thInk I can agree to at all. Where do we go from there . ~ ,. , to at all. Where do we go from there . ,. ,. ,. , there . Well, It Is all about the volItIcs there . Well, It Is all about the polItIcs In there . Well, It Is all about the polItIcs In a there . Well, It Is all about the polItIcs In a sense. There . Well, It Is all about the polItIcs In a sense. If there . Well, It Is all about the polItIcs In a sense. If we there . Well, It Is all about the polItIcs In a sense. If we look. There . Well, It Is all about the l polItIcs In a sense. If we look at constItutIonally where we can go from here, It Is cute that the constItutIonal authorIty to hold a referendum that would brIng an end to the unIon, that lIes wIth the Imarsana.com/news/uk-parlIament'>Uk ParlIament under the Imarsana.com/news/devolutIon-settlement'>DevolutIon Settlement It Is clear that. That Is why we hear dIscussIon of a sectIon 30 order whIch Is basIcally a parlIamentary devIce that could transfer authorIty from the Imarsana.com/news/uk-parlIament'>Uk ParlIament to the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament to the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament so It could legIslate for a referendum that would be beyond legal doubt, that happened last tIme around. BorIsjohnson has saId that he wIll not do that and actually, I dont thInk It would make a dIfference whether the snp wIns a sIngle Imarsana.com/news/party-majorIty'>Party MajorIty or not In thIs electIon, that stIll hangs In the balance. I thInk It would have saId no anyway. Where does that leave the snp . They could brIng forward legIslatIon that Is almost InvItIng the Imarsana.com/news/uk-law'>Uk Law offIcers to refer It to the Imarsana.com/news/uk-law'>Uk Law offIcers to refer It to the Imarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court and have an almIghty battle In the courts about who has the competence, polItIcally, that mIght not be a partIcularly good luck for the Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Government eIther. I thInk thIs Is determIned ultImately In the polItIcal arena and If It Is not determIned by thIs electIon, there are subsequent electIons and we wIll have the whole argument agaIn at the next uk Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon. Argument agaIn at the next uk Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon. Lets put that thoutht Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon. Lets put that thought to Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon. Lets put that thought to one Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon. Lets put that thought to one sIde Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon. Lets put that thought to one sIde for Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon. Lets put that thought to one sIde for a Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon. Lets put that. Thought to one sIde for a second because clearly we are In thIs cycle. VIewers wIll understand the poInt you are makIng, obvIously. You have answered 1. I poInt you are makIng, obvIously. You have answered 1. 1 was goIng to raIse, whIch was when you mentIon to the Imarsana.com/news/uk-supreme-court'>Uk Supreme Court. One Issue I mentIoned one Issue I was goIng to raIse. If thIs dId go along the legal route, where would thIs be decIded now . Clearly, there Is a legal system Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland whIch Is separate and you have the Imarsana.com/news/uk-supreme-court'>Uk Supreme Court at the top end of the pIcture sIttIng In london. But you are very clear that Is where It would end up. I am not a lawyer, I am a polItIcal scIentIst. So I dont want my legal colleagues to be shoutIng at the televIsIon rIght now. But we just had two pIeces of legIslatIon whIch were passed In the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament and the Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Government has referred these to the Imarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court to determIne whether or not they are beyond the competence of the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament. And I thInk thatIs Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament. And I thInk that Is the route we would be lookIng at If there was a legIslatIon, Imarsana.com/news/referendum-legIslatIon'>Referendum LegIslatIon whIch was passed In the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament that the Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Government wanted to challenge. It could be possIble, letsjust ImagIne wanted to challenge. It could be possIble, lets just ImagIne a scenarIo where you draft a pIece of legIslatIon In such a way that you manage to fIt It wIthIn the competence of the parlIament, that Is theoretIcally possIble. But that Is theoretIcally possIble. But that Is not partIcularly attractIve eIther If It doesnt have the consent of the Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Government because there Is one thIng that Is clear, If you want to have a delIberatIve process that brIngs about an end to the unIon, that can only be done through consent and through a negotIated arrangement wIth the Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Government. NegotIated arrangement wIth the Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Government negotIated arrangement wIth the Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Government. ,. , a government. Professor nIcola mcewen, thank ou government. Professor nIcola mcewen, thank you for government. Professor nIcola mcewen, thank you for sheddIng government. Professor nIcola mcewen, thank you for sheddIng lIght government. Professor nIcola mcewen, thank you for sheddIng lIght on government. Professor nIcola mcewen, thank you for sheddIng lIght on that thank you for sheddIng lIght on that and gIven you were tellIng us you are not a lawyer, I thought you made are not a lawyer, I thought you made a lot of sense so thank you very much forjoInIng us. Much for oInIng us. Thank you. We can much forjoInIng us. Thank you. We can speak much forjoInIng us. Thank you. We can speak to much forjoInIng us. Thank you. We can speak to patrIck much forjoInIng us. Thank you. We can speak to Imarsana.com/news/patrIck-harvIe'>PatrIck HarvIe| much forjoInIng us. Thank you. We can speak to Imarsana.com/news/patrIck-harvIe'>PatrIck HarvIe msp, the green party co leader Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland whojoIns us the green party co leader Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland who joIns us from scotland. Good afternoon, Imarsana.com/news/patrIck-harvIe'>PatrIck HarvIe, you went Into thIs electIon wIth sIx Imarsana.com/news/lIst-seat'>LIst Seats for the greens, we are hearIng you may have done better than that, are you hearIng the same thIng . You mIght say yes or you mIght of course say no. ThIng . You mIght say yes or you mIght of course say no. Well, I am ttoIn to mIght of course say no. Well, I am goIng to say mIght of course say no. Well, I am goIng to say somethIng mIght of course say no. Well, I am goIng to say somethIng halfway I mIght of course say no. Well, I am goIng to say somethIng halfway In| goIng to say somethIng halfway In between. As you know, the allocatIon of the regIonal seats often comes down to very fIne margIns at Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the day and we are yet to see the regIonal Imarsana.com/news/vote-share'>Vote Share for some really Important constItuencIes. I thInk we are certaInly confIdent we wIll hold the ground we won In 2016, there are a number of the seats we are In contentIon for and It Is just too close to call, whIch If any of those wIll come good for us. But we are hopeful we wIll come to get good news later on and It Is frustratIng to waIt thIs long for a result, but only a few hours, I thInk. But to waIt thIs long for a result, but only a few hours, IthInk. Only a few hours, I thInk. But In any event. Only a few hours, I thInk. But In any event, whether only a few hours, I thInk. But In any event, whether or only a few hours, I thInk. But In any event, whether or not only a few hours, I thInk. But In any event, whether or not you | only a few hours, I thInk. But In any event, whether or not you have fIve, sIx, seven or more, the chances are that you are one of the two pro Independence partIes In the parlIament and you wIll together he lIkely to make up a majorIty. Do you thInk It cements your posItIon as pro Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum two If you have some sort of formal coalItIon or does that make any dIfference at all . I coalItIon or does that make any dIfference at all . DIfference at all . I dont thInk that Is crItIcal. DIfference at all . I dont thInk that Is crItIcal. The dIfference at all . I dont thInk that Is crItIcal. The clear dIfference at all . I dont thInk. That Is crItIcal. The clear posItIon Is that the democratIc wIshes of the people of scotland should be respected. Now, If the antI Independence polItIcal partIes, labour, the conservatIves and the lIb dems, between them had a majorIty In the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament, by the tIme the fInal votes and results have been declared, I would regret It, but I would have to accept that that Is a democratIc prIncIple and the referendum was not goIng to happen In the new sessIon. But If there Is a pro Imarsana.com/news/Independence-majorIty'>Independence MajorIty, or that Is needed Is the polItIcal partIes accept the same democratIc prIncIple. All that Is needed. The two polItIcal partIes lIkely to make up a pro Imarsana.com/news/Independence-party'>Independence Party, the snp and the greens, were very clear wIth the people of scotland what our posItIon was durIng thIs campaIgn, that there should be a referendum not ImmedIately whIle the publIc Imarsana.com/news/health-crIsIs'>Health CrIsIs Is stIll happenIng, but durIng the term of the new Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament. And I thInk It would be entIrely unreasonable to say that scotlands future lIes In the hands of the person behInd the door of number 10 rather than In the hands of the people who lIve here. So It Is ttoIn of the people who lIve here. So It Is goIng to of the people who lIve here. So It Is goIng to be of the people who lIve here. So It Is goIng to be In of the people who lIve here. So It Is goIng to be In the of the people who lIve here. So It Is goIng to be In the lIfetIme of thIs parlIament, on a day unspecIfIed because we do not know what Is happenIng wIth the pandemIc. NIcola sturgeon saId she hoped It would be around 2023 and thIs Is where I want to talk to about Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson. BorIsjohnson has made very clear, he Is out of the traps very early, no chance of an Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum, It Is sImply not goIng to happen. NIcola sturgeon has saId she does not want a Imarsana.com/news/wIldcat-referendum'>WIldcat Referendum that cannot be defended In the courts, where do the greens stand on thIs, are you full square behInd the Idea It has to be100 legally watertIght on thIs before you have an Independent Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum . You have an Independent Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum . Well, It has to be legally Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum . Well, It has to be legally accepted Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum . Well, It has to be legally accepted and has to be legally accepted and respected referendum If scotland Is goIng to become Independent because the result of a referendum clearly has to be accepted wIthIn Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland And It has to be accepted beyond scotland. So very clearly, there has to be a legal basIs. But I thInk the posItIon of the Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Government Is actually vergIng on beIng dangerous. They are essentIally sayIng to the people of scotland there Is no democratIc path to allow them to make the decIsIon about theIr own future. And relyIng Instead merely on legal technIcalItIes rather than on legal technIcalItIes rather than on any form of polItIcal legItImacy. I thInk If they want theIr posItIon to hold, they Need A legal posItIon, but they also need polItIcal legItImacy and they seem to be gIvIng up on any pretence of the latter. ,. ~. , gIvIng up on any pretence of the latter. , w. ,. , latter. PatrIck harvIe, thanks very much Indeed. Much Indeed. In a moment, I wIll be talkIng to the welsh Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster Imarsana.com/news/mark-drakeford'>Mark Drakeford who Is kIndly goIng to joIn as so stay wIth us for that. And we are monItorIng all the results as they come In and we wIll focus on the most Important and the most InterestIng, those whIch are left. And dont forget, we are also provIdIng all the results on our varIous dIgItal servIces. Adam flemIng Is here to explaIn more. All weekend, we are goIng to brIng you the latest on the electIons Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland, wales and england. To fInd out what Is happenIng where you lIve, go to thIs address. Oryou happenIng where you lIve, go to thIs address. Or you can use the app, type In your Imarsana.com/news/postcode-or-zoom'>Postcode Or Zoom In on the map and see the constItuency results for the natIonal parlIaments In Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland And wales and the englIsh Imarsana.com/news/councIl-electIons'>CouncIl ElectIons. We wIll also be brIngIng you the latest on the englIsh mayoral Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contests and the races to become polIce and Imarsana.com/news/crIme-commIssIoner'>CrIme CommIssIoners. You can also sIgn up for alerts so you get the news straIght to your devIce. And of course, we wIll be lIve here on televIsIon brIngIng you all the results, all the analysIs and what It means In electIons 2021. That was Imarsana.com/news/adam-flemIng'>Adam FlemIng Is gIvIng us the detaIls, before I talk to Imarsana.com/news/mr-drake'>Mr Drake saId, lets have a remInder of the posItIon In the Imarsana.com/news/welsh-parlIament'>Welsh ParlIament, the senedd, and these were the fInal numbers, labour havIng had an excellent electIon and havIng four tough challenges In pretty much all parts of wales the drakeford. 36, havIng gaIned one, conservatIve dId well, but not nearly as well as they thought they would. PlaId cymru gaInIng one, theIr expectatIons were hIgher. The lIb dems on one and the Imarsana.com/news/Independents-nothIng'>Independents NothIng and the party that wanted to demolIsh the senedd, not havIng got anywhere really. WIth all of the schools In the mInd, lets go to porthcawl, a rather wet porthcawl, hello, the drakeford. It Is raInIng and It looks rather wet so I hope you are under cover, fIrst of all, congratulatIons on the result you had yesterday, whIch was clearly a matter of great prIde to you and to your colleagues and lots of people have been payIng complIments to the effIcIency of the Imarsana.com/news/welsh-labour'>Welsh Labour machIne. But lets face It, Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster, you are the face of Imarsana.com/news/welsh-labour'>Welsh Labour and there has been a lot of pressure over the past year wIth the pandemIc and the way that It has been handled. So tell us, Is that the key to the success here, the handlIng of the pandemIc In wales over the past year . Well, that was very certaInly wales over the past year . Well, that was very certaInly the wales over the past year . Well, that was very certaInly the thIng wales over the past year . Well, that was very certaInly the thIng that was very certaInly the thIng that was very certaInly the thIng that was most spontaneously and most often raIsed on the doorstep. From the very fIrst day of the campaIgn In porthcawl In fact, people have been comIng to the doorstep to tell us that they feel glad they have lIved In wales over the last 15 months, that they feel they have been kept safe here. And that has certaInly been a strong theme of the electIon. But It has been more than that, people have wanted to talk about the future as well, the future for our nhs, for our economy, for waless contrIbutIon to the other great crIsIs of our tIme, clImate change. So pandemIc, defInItely, but more than that as well. More change. So pandemIc, defInItely, but more than that as well. More than that as well. More than that ou more than that as well. More than that you say. More than that as well. More than that you say. But more than that as well. More than that you say, but It more than that as well. More than that you say, but It Is more than that as well. More than that you say, but It Is up more than that as well. More than that you say, but It Is up to more than that as well. More than that you say, but It Is up to all that you say, but It Is up to all partIes to basIcally say what they thInk It Is posItIve and what they thInk Is negatIve about others and I notIce Imarsana.com/news/welsh-labour'>Welsh Labour, I thInk you are sayIng that wales had not opted for narrow natIonalIsm or cold conservatIsm, I thInk I am quotIng the words correctly. Tell us more about that and how you see that to be more In keepIng wIth what Imarsana.com/news/welsh-psyche'>Welsh Psyche or the Imarsana.com/news/welsh-need'>Welsh Need Is at the moment. ~ ~ ,. ,. Moment. Well, I thInk the pandemIc has had a polarIsIng moment. Well, I thInk the pandemIc has had a polarIsIng effect moment. Well, I thInk the pandemIc has had a polarIsIng effect to moment. Well, I thInk the pandemIc has had a polarIsIng effect to an has had a polarIsIng effect to an extent on people because my opInIons. But when It came to the electIon, I thInk you could see clearly the great bulk of opInIon here In wales remaIns attached to powerful devolutIon where decIsIons that only affect people In wales are only made by people In wales, but where we contInue to be part of a successful unIted kIngdom. And that Is what the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party offered In thIs electIon. Both our commItment to devolutIon, but also our belIef that the unIted kIngdom Is better off for havIng wales In It and that wales Is better off for beIng part of a successful unIted kIngdom. II of a successful unIted kIngdom. If Imarsana.com/news/sIr-keIr-starmer'>SIr KeIr Starmerwas to of a successful unIted kIngdom. If Imarsana.com/news/sIr-keIr-starmer'>SIr KeIr Starmer was to renew today and maybe he has already come to say, what lessons are there In wales that could be of use to labour more wIdely especIally In some of the areas of england, IncludIng the Imarsana.com/news/north-east'>North East of england where there was a bIg loss for labour In that by electIon yesterday, what would you be sayIng . Was to wrIng you today. You be sayIng . Was to wrIng you toda. ,. ,. ,. ,. , today. FIrst of all, that we would be very keen today. FIrst of all, that we would be very keen to today. FIrst of all, that we would be very keen to be today. FIrst of all, that we would be very keen to be part today. FIrst of all, that we would be very keen to be part of today. FIrst of all, that we would be very keen to be part of any I be very keen to be part of any revIew that Imarsana.com/news/sIr-keIr-starmer'>SIr KeIr Starmer decIdes to set up Into the performance of the party more wIdely, to contrIbute whatever thInkIng we can. But I have bought throughout our bIggest advantage Is we have been In government here In wales I have thought. DemonstratIng what you can do for progressIve causes when you have the Imarsana.com/news/power-and-authorIty'>Power And AuthorIty to do that. Whereas our colleagues In england often beIng In opposItIon are able to put forward Ideas, but they dont have that advantage of beIng able to poInt to the record of actual achIevement that we carry In wales so when we say In our manIfesto that we wIll do other thIngs for people In wales In the future, people have the confIdence of knowIng that we have got a record of knowIng that we have got a record of delIverIng here In wales. Just a fInal poInt, thIs Is about the future. Welsh Imarsana.com/news/labour-have'>Labour Have been In power sInce 1999 when the assembly was fIrst created and now you are facIng another perIod In power. Renewal Is often talked about, and yet contInuIty Is often seen as a strength. What wIll It be for you . More of the same, whIch has clearly worked In thIs electIon . Or wIll you look to renew . And If you are lookIng to renew, how wIll that manIfest Itself . I are lookIng to renew, how wIll that manIfest Itself . ManIfest Itself . I thInk It Is a Imarsana.com/news/combInatIon-manIfest'>CombInatIon ManIfest Itself . I thInk It Is a combInatIon of manIfest Itself . I thInk It Is a combInatIon of the manIfest Itself . I thInk It Is a combInatIon of the two. ManIfest Itself . I thInk It Is a combInatIon of the two. Absolutely contInuIty In terms of our handlIng of the pandemIc, whIch has not gone away. And the careful, cautIous, scIentIfIcally formed way In whIch we have responded to the pandemIc, we have responded to the pandemIc, we wIll certaInly be contInuIng that. But renewal as well because of our ambItIous plans for the future, a future for wales based on our huge natural strengths that gIves our young people a powerful sense of a future that Is here for them In wales, usIng our natural resources, our abIlItIes, skIlls, commItment that we have, In the workplace here In wales. All of that gIves us the raw materIal for renewal, a stronger, greener, faIrer wales the other sIde of the pandemIc. Other sIde of the pandemIc. Mark, kIrsty here other sIde of the pandemIc. Mark, kIrsty here In other sIde of the pandemIc. Mark, kIrsty here In edInburgh. Other sIde of the pandemIc. Mark, kIrsty here In edInburgh. Just kIrsty here In edInburgh. Just askIng kIrsty here In edInburgh. Just askIng your advIce on thIs. If the senate askIng your advIce on thIs. If the senate delIvered a majorIty In Imarsana.com/news/favour-senate'>Favour Senate delIvered a majorIty In favour of senate delIvered a majorIty In favour of an Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum for Imarsana.com/news/wales-favour'>Wales Favour of an Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum for wales and Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson saId favour of an Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum for wales and borIsjohnson saId no, what would for wales and borIsjohnson saId no, what would you do . If for wales and Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson saId no, what would you do . What would you do . If there was a maorI what would you do . If there was a majorIty In what would you do . If there was a majorIty In favour what would you do . If there was a majorIty In favour of what would you do . If there was a Imarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty In favour of Independence, partIes returned, and that Is theIr polIcy, I have always been clear that should then go ahead because that should then go ahead because that would be the democratIc mandate from the people In wales. But It wIll not be the case In the assembly that was elected on thursday, so we wIll not face that In the next perIod. But had people In wales voted In favour of a referendum, then the democratIc mandate for that would have been secured. Would have been secured. FInally on that then, would have been secured. FInally on that then. If would have been secured. FInally on that then, If nIcola would have been secured. FInally on that then, If Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon would have been secured. FInally on that then, If Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon and that then, If Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon and other that then, If Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon and other pro Independence partIes to form a other pro Independence partIes to form a majorIty In the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament and therefore legIslate for an parlIament and therefore legIslate for an Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum, what would for an Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum, what would your for an Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum, what would your advIce to Imarsana.com/news/anas-sarwar'>Anas Sarwar be . You are would your advIce to Imarsana.com/news/anas-sarwar'>Anas Sarwar be . You are essentIally sayIng that If It was you are essentIally sayIng that If It was to you are essentIally sayIng that If It was to happen In wales, you would support It was to happen In wales, you would support It It was to happen In wales, you would support It as It was to happen In wales, you would support It as a democratIc mandate. Should support It as a democratIc mandate. Should Imarsana.com/news/anas-sarwar'>Anas Sarwar supported as a democratIc should Imarsana.com/news/anas-sarwar'>Anas Sarwar supported as a democratIc mandate as well . | should Imarsana.com/news/anas-sarwar'>Anas Sarwar supported as a democratIc mandate as well . I do not thInk I am In democratIc mandate as well . I do not thInk I am In a democratIc mandate as well . I do not thInk I am In a very democratIc mandate as well . I do not thInk I am In a very good democratIc mandate as well . I do not thInk I am In a very good place democratIc mandate as well . I do not thInk I am In a very good place to thInk I am In a very good place to be handIng out advIce to people In other parts of the unIted kIngdom. I am quIte sure that the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland wIll engage very carefully In that debate. I have heard them make a powerful case for sayIng there are other prIorItIes that should come In front of such a referendum and there wIll be ample opportunIty, I am certaIn, for scottIsh colleagues to debate the Issue and to come to a conclusIon amongst themselves. I dont thInk they wIll Need AdvIce from me In doIng so. They wIll Need AdvIce from me In doInt so. ,. ,. ,. They wIll Need AdvIce from me In doIntso. ,. , doIng so. DIplomatIc to the last, Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster. DoIng so. DIplomatIc to the last, Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster. Thank doIng so. DIplomatIc to the last, Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster. Thank you doIng so. DIplomatIc to the last, Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster. Thank you to doIng so. DIplomatIc to the last, | Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster. Thank you to Imarsana.com/news/mark-drakeford'>Mark Drakeford. And now the three oclock news. Here Is a summary of the news. The snp Is expected to wIn a fourth term Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland, but Its leader, Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon, admItted the prospect of a majorIty for the party Is on a Imarsana.com/news/knIfe-edge'>KnIfe Edge. In wales, labour maIntaIn control of the assembly. Labour happened In my euro electIons In Imarsana.com/news/north-tynesIde'>North TynesIde and Imarsana.com/news/lIverpool-cIty'>LIverpool CIty regIon. Here Isjess parker. The regIon. Here Is jess parker. The followInt regIon. Here Isjess parker. Tue; followIng candIdates Imarsana.com/news/julIe-'>JulIe elected followIng candIdatesImarsana.com/news/julIe-'>JulIe elected to serve. FollowIng candIdates Imarsana.com/news/julIe-'>JulIe elected to serve. �. ,. , followIng candIdates Imarsana.com/news/julIe-'>JulIe elected toserve. ,. ,. FollowIng candIdates Imarsana.com/news/julIe-'>JulIe elected toserve. �. ,. ,. , to serve. Another seat secured for the snp, aberdeenshIre to serve. Another seat secured for the snp, aberdeenshIre Is, to serve. Another seat secured for the snp, aberdeenshIre Is, but to serve. Another seat secured for the snp, aberdeenshIre Is, but wIth the snp, aberdeenshIre Is, but wIth the snp, aberdeenshIre Is, but wIth the Imarsana.com/news/snp-majorIty'>Snp MajorIty on a Imarsana.com/news/knIfe-edge'>KnIfe Edge, It Is Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West they are hopIng to take off the torIes thIs afternoon, the party pushIng back on Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnsons afternoon, the party pushIng back on borIsjohnsons claIm that afternoon, the party pushIng back on Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnsons claIm that a afternoon, the party pushIng back on borIsjohnsons claIm that a further Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum would be reckless. fist Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum would be reckless. �. ,. Reckless. At Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the day, Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson reckless. At Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the day, Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson and reckless. At Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the day, Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson and I reckless. At Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the day, Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson and I wIll reckless. At Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the day, | Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson and I wIll dIsagree reckless. At Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the day, Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson and I wIll dIsagree on borIsjohnson and I wIll dIsagree on the rIghts and wrongs of Independence, but surely we can agree on the fact that It should be agree on the fact that It should be a questIon that Is put to the people of scotland. That Is the nature of democracy and that Is what we are arguIng for rIght now. BorIs Imarsana.com/news/johnson-yo'>Johnson Yo. Yed u. ArguIng for rIght now. BorIs johnson popped up In arguIng for rIght now. BorIs johnson popped up In hartlepool arguIng for rIght now. BorIs johnson popped up In hartlepoolyesterday, | popped up In Imarsana.com/news/hartlepool-yesterday'>Hartlepool Yesterday, makIng further strIdes In england. As the torIes begIn, wIth theIr stance on Independence. There Is a Imarsana.com/news/t-uestIon-stance'>T UestIon Stance on Independence. There Is a questIon of stance on Independence. There Is a questIon of whether stance on Independence. There Is a questIon of whether the stance on Independence. There Is a questIon of whether the Imarsana.com/news/snp-stance'>Snp Stance on Independence. There Is a questIon of whether the snp wIll I stance on Independence. There Is a Imarsana.com/news/l-questIon'>L QuestIon of whether the snp wIll get a majorIty or not and we wIll have to waIt and see. The Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Government was s posItIon Is very clear on thIs, we do not thInk there Is a case for another referendum, partIcularly as we try to come out of the pandemIc and get our economy goIng agaIn. Of the pandemIc and get our economy ttoIn ataIn. , h of the pandemIc and get our economy ttoIn ayaIn. , � , of the pandemIc and get our economy ttoIn ataIn. , � ,. , goIng agaIn. Labours was In england Include some goIng agaIn. Labours was In england Include some cancer goIng agaIn. Labours was In england Include some cancer losses, goIng agaIn. Labours was In england Include some cancer losses, puttIng | Include some cancer losses, puttIng Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer under pressure. But In wales they wIll contInue In power. CelebratIons bIg and small, but how to move forward across the uk . fiur to move forward across the uk . Our touthest to move forward across the uk . OI toughest fIght where the seats that we were genuInely concerned about where there Is that we lost to the conservatIves less than a year and a half ago In the Imarsana.com/news/december-2019-general'>December 2019 General electIon. We won theIr seats back by workIng really hard In wales. We have more to do In england, but I am optImIstIc we can get there and I am desperate to see a Imarsana.com/news/uk-labour'>Uk Labour prIme mInIster. IoutfIth get there and I am desperate to see a Imarsana.com/news/uk-labour'>Uk Labour prIme mInIster. WIth so much democracy a Imarsana.com/news/uk-labour'>Uk Labour prIme mInIster. WIth so much democracy In a Imarsana.com/news/uk-labour'>Uk Labour prIme mInIster. WIth so much democracy In actIon, a Imarsana.com/news/uk-labour'>Uk Labour prIme mInIster. WIth so much democracy In actIon, you a Imarsana.com/news/uk-labour'>Uk Labour prIme mInIster. WIth so much democracy In actIon, you havej much democracy In actIon, you have got to keep the energy goIng. CertaInly the mood In norfolk anyway. Stay tuned for more results, IncludIng the Imarsana.com/news/manchester-and-west'>Manchester And West Imarsana.com/news/mIdlands-mayor'>MIdlands Mayoral races thIs afternoon. A man In hIs 20s has been arrested In connectIon wIth the murder of the Imarsana.com/news/communIty-support-offIcerjulIa'>CommunIty Support OffIcerjulIa james In kent. PolIce say he Is from the canterbury area. MIss james was found dead last nIght near her home In snow down. She had suffered serIous head InjurIes. DetectIves are stIll lookIng for InformatIon. Some of our raIl servIces have been suspended after cracks were found on hIgh speed traIns. Lner, hull traIns, great western Imarsana.com/news/raIlway-and-trans'>RaIlway And Trans pennIne express have warned passengers of major dIsruptIon whIle safety checks are carrIed out. AIrlIne say they have put on extra flIghts to countrIes on new green Imarsana.com/news/travel-lIst'>Travel LIst after a surge In demand. Portugal, gIbraltarand Imarsana.com/news/travel-lIst'>Travel LIst after a surge In demand. Portugal, Imarsana.com/news/gIbraltar-and-Israel'>GIbraltar And Israel are among destInatIons that travellers wIll be able to vIsIt from the 17th Of May wIthout havIng to self Isolate on theIr return. Just a remInder, for lIve coverage of the Imarsana.com/news/electIon-result'>ElectIon Results that come In and Imarsana.com/news/expert-analysIs'>Expert AnalysIs, you can vIsIt our websIte or the Imarsana.com/news/bbc-news'>Bbc News app. Now It Is back to the electIons 2021. Welcome back. I am In edInburgh. Very quIck observatIon, george the Imarsana.com/news/labour-polItIcIan'>Labour PolItIcIan of course famously saId that devolutIon would kIll Imarsana.com/news/natIonalIsm-stone'>NatIonalIsm Stone dead. He was talkIng about scotland, but In fact It has not happened In wales, It has been the opposIte. PlaId cymru Is essentIally In stasIs and Imarsana.com/news/mark-drakeford'>Mark Drakeford has managed to develop devolutIon and make It much more muscular. I devolutIon and make It much more muscular. ~ ,. DevolutIon and make It much more muscular. ~ ,. , muscular. I thInk the pIcture Is so dIfferent. KnowIng muscular. I thInk the pIcture Is so dIfferent. KnowIng the muscular. I thInk the pIcture Is so dIfferent. KnowIng the snp muscular. I thInk the pIcture Is so dIfferent. KnowIng the snp machIne, as I do, but not as much as you, but knowIng the Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru machIne as well, they are very dIfferent anImals. You have got to remember lots of people who observe these matters do not get the cultural dIfference In a way. PlaId cymru was formed around the notIon of protectIng welsh culture. Yes, of course there was a phIlosophy of possIble Independence at some stage, but It Is more about protectIng the Imarsana.com/news/welsh-l'>Welsh Language, whIch of course Is a much bIggerfeature of Imarsana.com/news/welsh-l'>Welsh Language, whIch of course Is a much bIgger feature of lIfe Imarsana.com/news/welsh-l'>Welsh Language, whIch of course Is a much bIggerfeature of lIfe In wales than, wIth respect, It Is Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland In terms of celtIc languages. 20 of people In wales speak welsh, hundreds of thousands of people. It Is a bIg polItIcal Issue at tImes, sadly very dIvIsIve sometImes. Less dIvIsIve today than It was, whIch Is a good thIng to be able to report. PlaId Imarsana.com/news/cymrus-problem'>Cymrus Problem Is that It has never been able, there are exceptIons to thIs, but It has never been able to move out of an area where people see It as just a cultural language movement. That has been the Issue. PlaId cymru at tImes has broken through In the valleys of south wales, but that has fallen away agaIn. Its heartenIng Is wIthout questIon are welsh speakIng wales. I really thInk that untIl Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru stepped Into the areas that labour currently domInate, It wIll have a problem IncreasIng Its share of the vote dramatIcally. As somebody saId earlIer, when I was talkIng to Imarsana.com/news/laura-mcallIster'>Laura McallIster who shone a lot of lIght on thIs for us, there Is an overlap. In terms of values and polIcIes between Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru and labour there Is a bIg overlap. You are not askIng voters to make a decIsIon In some areas between two very dIstInct thIngs. In many areas people wIll vote Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru at one Imarsana.com/news/electIon-and-labour'>ElectIon And Labour at another electIon. You can see why the growth has not been In the same way as It has been Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. I thInk the cultural part of that Is absolutely essentIal. If you do not get that, you do not understand welsh polItIcs, that Is the truth. I thInk my welsh methodIst sermon Is over, vIcky. Can I say I thInk I dId quIte a good sermon. I thInk after Imarsana.com/news/mark-drakeford'>Mark Drakeford saId those thIngs, I was IntrIgued wIth hIs response to my questIon about Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer, because he dId not want to get tangled up wIth Imarsana.com/news/anas-sarwar'>Anas Sarwar and any advIce wIth what happens wIth Independence, he dId not want to go anywhere near that, but he dId answer the questIon on Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer. He saId, we wIll be very happy to talk about polIcy, and then he saId, I am paraphrasIng, the Issue here Is we have power. We looked knowIngly at each other because we have heard thIs before from other people. He saId, we are In power, we are able to show what we can do. It Is lIke Imarsana.com/news/steve-rotherham'>Steve Rotherham In lIverpool sayIng, I have power, I can show what Imarsana.com/news/labour-polIcy'>Labour PolIcy can be In actIon. Mark drakeford Is sayIng the same thIng. We are In power In wales and we are showIng what we can do. You can argue wIth It, you can oppose It, but ultImately that Is hIm sayIng, Imarsana.com/news/sIr-keIr-starmer'>SIr KeIr Starmer, you need to empower and then you can show people what you can do. I thought that was just another warnIng shot that Imarsana.com/news/sIr-keIr-starmer'>SIr KeIr Starmer Is under massIve pressure to get labour In a posItIon In Imarsana.com/news/uk-terms'>Uk Terms where It can wIn agaIn. That Is the bIg problem. It Is a self fulfIllIng cycle, you could argue. That Is what Imarsana.com/news/mark-drakeford'>Mark Drakeford was basIcally sayIng. He has got power and they have done good thIngs wIth It and show people what they can achIeve. KeIr starmer Is not In power, he Is nowhere near power, so he cannot prove these thIngs. He has to do It from a posItIon of beIng In opposItIon and that Is much tougher. That means he has to be even clearer about what he wants to do. An InterestIng quote here from the newly elected, re elected Imarsana.com/news/labour-mayor'>Labour Mayor of salford. He Is talkIng about the Imarsana.com/news/centre-ground'>Centre Ground not exIstIng any more. That has gone In the way that people thought It dId. He Is just sayIng the publIc now expect labour to pIck a sIde and artIculate able, ambItIous, progressIve vIsIon for the future, whIch tackles poverty and InequalIty. {we for the future, whIch tackles poverty and InequalIty. One second, vIc , the poverty and InequalIty. One second, vIcky. The Imarsana.com/news/west-poverty'>West Poverty and InequalIty. One second, vIcky, the Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands. Poverty and InequalIty. One second, vIcky, the Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands. The vIcky, the Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands. The electIon of vIcky, the Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands. The electIon of mayor for the Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands combIned Imarsana.com/news/authorIty-area'>AuthorIty Area on the 6th mIdlands combIned Imarsana.com/news/authorIty-area'>AuthorIty Area on the 6th of mIdlands combIned Imarsana.com/news/authorIty-area'>AuthorIty Area on the 6th of may 2021, I hereby certIfy the 6th of may 2021, I hereby certIfy that. The total number of ballot certIfy that. The total number of Imarsana.com/news/ballot-paper'>Ballot Papers verIfIed Is 626,180. The turnout In thIs combIned authorIty the turnout In thIs combIned Imarsana.com/news/authorIty-area'>AuthorIty Area In thIs electIon was 31~23 ~ Imarsana.com/news/authorIty-area'>AuthorIty Area In thIs electIon was 31~23 ~ the Imarsana.com/news/authorIty-area'>AuthorIty Area In thIs electIon was 31. 23 . The total number of valId fIrst preference Imarsana.com/news/votes-cast'>Votes Cast for each of the fIrst preference Imarsana.com/news/votes-cast'>Votes Cast for each of the candIdates Is as follows. LIam of the candIdates Is as follows. LIam byrne, of the candIdates Is as follows. LIam byrne, labour and cooperatIve party. LIam byrne, labour and cooperatIve party, stephen alexander caldwell, green party, stephen alexander caldwell, green party, 35,559. Peter Imarsana.com/news/charles-george'>Charles George green party, 35,559. Peter Imarsana.com/news/charles-george'>Charles George darnell, reform uk, 13,568. Andrew george darnell, reform uk, 13,568. Andrewjohn street, the conservatIve party candIdate, 299,318. JennIfer jane wIlkInson, Imarsana.com/news/lIberal-democrats'>LIberal Democrats, 21,83g jane wIlkInson, Imarsana.com/news/lIberal-democrats'>LIberal Democrats, 21,836. The total number of valId fIrst preference votes Is 614,290. The total fIrst preference votes Is 614,290. The total number of Imarsana.com/news/ballot-paper'>Ballot Papers rejected the total number of Imarsana.com/news/ballot-paper'>Ballot Papers rejected at thIs fIrst count Is as follows, rejected at thIs fIrst count Is as follows, 11,890. In terms of those rejected, follows, 11,890. In terms of those rejected, one was offIcIally marked zerot rejected, one was offIcIally marked zero, voted for more than Imarsana.com/news/one-candIdate'>One CandIdate, zero, voted for more than Imarsana.com/news/one-candIdate'>One CandIdate, 4148, wrItIng or a mark by whIch candIdate, 4148, wrItIng or a mark by whIch the voter could be IdentIfIed, 66. By whIch the voter could be IdentIfIed, 66. The returnIng offIcer goIng IdentIfIed, 66. The returnIng offIcer goIng through IdentIfIed, 66. The returnIng offIcer goIng through the IdentIfIed, 66. The returnIng offIcer goIng through the fIgures. You have the fIgures there. It Is a battle royal. But look at the share. 49 to the conservatIves and 42 labour. Nobody gets 50 , so It wIll go Into a second round. That Is what we need to know. If you look at the fIrst round Imarsana.com/news/share-change'>Share Change It Is 7 up to Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street and labourjust down a fractIon and the greens up a fractIon and the lIb dems down. Reform up a vIew. BasIcally, the headlIne Is Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street, the conservatIve mayor who has been servIng as mayor for the Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands hasjust servIng as mayor for the Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands has just narrowly faIled to wIn on the fIrst round. It Is the narrowest of margIns. It now goes Into a second round whIch opens up an area of uncertaInty and It wIll be InterestIng to see what goes on there. What dId you make of that . That Is so close to gettIng through In the fIrst round, whIch the conservatIves would have been delIghted wIth. What Is InterestIng wIth Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street Is hIs campaIgn. He has not campaIgned promInently as a conservatIve, the posters and all the rest of It. He has done It much more as here I am, the Incumbent agaIn. I wonder whether that factor Is here. Now we get the second round and It Is pretty unpredIctable. I thInk he would need to pretty much all of the second preference votes, Imarsana.com/news/lIam-byrne'>LIam Byrne, I dont want to put my head on the block, but that seems unlIkely. I head on the block, but that seems unlIkel. , � ~ head on the block, but that seems unlIkel. , � ,. , unlIkely. I dont thInk anyone ever thoutht unlIkely. I dont thInk anyone ever thought he unlIkely. I dont thInk anyone ever thought he would unlIkely. I dont thInk anyone ever thought he would wIn unlIkely. I dont thInk anyone ever thought he would wIn easIly, unlIkely. I dont thInk anyone ever thought he would wIn easIly, I unlIkely. I dont thInk anyone ever. Thought he would wIn easIly, I thInk Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street was stIll seen as the favourIte and If the conservatIves to hold onto that, that Is agaIn another huge vIctory for them In an area IncredIbly Important, the Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands, In terms of parlIamentary seats and Is just showIng agaIn If he were to wIn how they are consolIdatIng theIr posItIon In those places. 5Ir consolIdatIng theIr posItIon In those places. ConsolIdatIng theIr posItIon In those laces. ,. , those places. SIrImarsana.com/news/john-curtIce'>John CurtIce our turu, those places. SIrImarsana.com/news/john-curtIce'>John CurtIce our guru. Our those places. SIrImarsana.com/news/john-curtIce'>John CurtIce our guru, our frIend, those places. SIrImarsana.com/news/john-curtIce'>John CurtIce our guru, our frIend, has those places. SIrImarsana.com/news/john-curtIce'>John CurtIce our guru, our frIend, hasjust those places. SIrImarsana.com/news/john-curtIce'>John CurtIce our guru, our frIend, hasjust sent I those places. SIrImarsana.com/news/john-curtIce'>John CurtIce our| guru, our frIend, hasjust sent me guru, ourfrIend, hasjust sent me thIs note sayIng that thIs Is another dIsappoIntment for labour who In a year when the party was performIng reasonably well would be expected to pIck up thIs mayoralty. But at one poInt In 2017, the conservatIve leader has stretched to nIne poInts wIth Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Streetjust over a poInt short of the 50 mark. So It all poInts to a wIn for Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street for the conservatIves. We just have to waIt for the second round fIgures and when we get those, we wIll brIng them to you rIght away. And lets pIck up wIth Imarsana.com/news/nIkkI-ed-leIgh'>NIkkI Ed LeIgh In edInburgh, we are waItIng for Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West and Imarsana.com/news/galloway-nIck-ed'>Galloway NIck Ed leIgh. But the focus must be on the lIsts. I nIck ed leIgh. But the focus must be on the lIsts. Be on the lIsts. I thInk that Is rItht be on the lIsts. I thInk that Is rIght and be on the lIsts. I thInk that Is rIght and even be on the lIsts. I thInk that Is rIght and even If be on the lIsts. I thInk that Is rIght and even If the be on the lIsts. I thInk that Is rIght and even If the snp be on the lIsts. I thInk that Is Imarsana.com/news/l-rIght'>L RIght and even If the snp dont be on the lIsts. I thInk that Is rIght and even If the snp dont make a majorIty on theIr own, can they get that majorIty wIth the scottIsh greens . Probably, almost certaInly, they wIll get that. The top the talk prIvately In the scottIsh greens Is they thInk they wIll Increase the number of seats, they had sIx In the last parlIament. They are talkIng prIvately about seven or ten thIs tIme. If the snp stayed on 63, 64, you could end up wIth the bIggest pro Imarsana.com/news/Independence-majorIty'>Independence MajorIty of thIs place has ever had, hIgher than 2011. So even though we have talked a lot about an Imarsana.com/news/snp-majorIty'>Snp MajorIty, It Is Important to brIng the greens Into that equatIon because they have the same words In theIr manIfesto. II same words In theIr manIfesto. If there Is a commensurate drop In the lIst because of where the Imarsana.com/news/snp-vote'>Snp Vote Is sItuated for example In the south west and they dont take a Imarsana.com/news/lIst-place'>LIst Place In Inverness, the balance could go back to roughly the same posItIon. Could go back to roughly the same tosItIon. ,. ,. ,. , posItIon. Yes, that Is rIght and one InterestIng posItIon. Yes, that Is rIght and one InterestIng thIng posItIon. Yes, that Is rIght and one InterestIng thIng that posItIon. Yes, that Is rIght and one InterestIng thIng that Is posItIon. Yes, that Is rIght and one| InterestIng thIng that Is happenIng, we are In the strange part of the electIon where the conservatIves prIvately are sayIng they thInk the snp wIlImarsana.com/news/l-wIn'>L WIn a majorIty. The snp are sayIng, we are not so sure we are goIng to wIn a majorIty, so there Is a bIt of Imarsana.com/news/expectatIon-management'>ExpectatIon Management goIng on. But the one thIng both are sayIng Is the Imarsana.com/news/snp-vote'>Snp Vote on the lIst whIch we thought mIght go down a bIt Is actually holdIng quIte fIrm. So we are here for the long haul, It Is lIterally goIng to go down to the last couple of declaratIons tonIght. Thank fantastIc, thanks very much. Owenjones from the guardIan joIns us from north london and the Imarsana.com/news/brexIt-edItor'>BrexIt EdItor of the telegraph In south london. Owenjones, tell me about the Imarsana.com/news/paIn-labour'>PaIn Labour Is In, we are havIng another Imarsana.com/news/polIcy-revIew'>PolIcy RevIew and I reeled off eIght or nIne sInce 2010 and thIs Is the Idea that mayor Is Imarsana.com/news/sIr-keIr-starmer'>SIr KeIr Starmer says we are goIng to do a Imarsana.com/news/polIcy-revIew'>PolIcy RevIew conducted In a matter of weeks, what wIll that delIver . That conducted In a matter of weeks, what wIll that delIver . WIll that delIver . That Is a good tuestIon wIll that delIver . That Is a good questIon because wIll that delIver . That Is a good questIon because never wIll that delIver . That Is a good questIon because never In wIll that delIver . That Is a good Imarsana.com/news/l-questIon'>L QuestIon because never In recent tImes has labour gone Into electIon so lackIng In basIc vIsIon. I was In hartlepool, but thIs has been corroborated by reports across the country, people dont know what labour stands for any more. KeIr starmer� s approach In hIs team was to defIne themselves agaInst the predecessor, Imarsana.com/news/jeremy-corbyn'>Jeremy Corbyn, and borIsjohnson, but predecessor, Imarsana.com/news/jeremy-corbyn'>Jeremy Corbyn, and Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson, but wIthout defInIng what he actually stands for and there has been a complete vacuum left by labour when It comes to polIcy or vIsIon, what would labour do wIth polItIcal power, that Is not a questIon I am afraId voters can answer and I dont thInk It Is one they can answer eIther. And I thInk what the Imarsana.com/news/polIcy-revIew'>PolIcy RevIew has to do, bearIn what the Imarsana.com/news/polIcy-revIew'>PolIcy RevIew has to do, bear In mInd the torIes do have a vIsIon at the moment, clear and coherent vIsIon, they have used populIst natIonalIsm wIth Investment, these are not the Imarsana.com/news/george-osborne'>George Osborne and Imarsana.com/news/davId-cameron'>DavId Cameron torIes, they are spendIng very strategIcally In areas and communItIes they are lookIng to wIn or they have won and ben hampshIre the teessIde mayor brought the aIr put Into publIc ownershIp and Introduced free parkIng, popular I am afraId wIth Imarsana.com/news/labour-vote'>Labour Voters, and what the Imarsana.com/news/polIcy-revIew'>PolIcy RevIew should do Is buIld on the commItments Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer made In a Imarsana.com/news/leadershIp-electIon'>LeadershIp ElectIon and has not spoken about ever sInce, whIch Is taxIng the rIch to Invest In the economy, brIngIng publIc ownershIp to areas of the economy where clearly the prIvate sector has faIled, as Imarsana.com/news/test-and-trace'>Test And Trace has found. You have to say the conservatIves dId that In the raIlways already and Ijust wonder, we dId that In the raIlways already and I just wonder, we spoke to dId that In the raIlways already and Ijust wonder, we spoke to Imarsana.com/news/steve-rotheram'>Steve Rotheram earlIer he wasImarsana.com/news/jeremy-corbyn'>Jeremy Corbyns pps and he saId, I am demonstratIng In thIs area that socIalIsm works. The trouble for Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer Is, does that not send a shIver down hIs spIne . It Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer Is, does that not send a shIver down hIs spIne . A shIver down hIs spIne . It should not because a shIver down hIs spIne . It should not because many a shIver down hIs spIne . It should not because many of a shIver down hIs spIne . It should not because many of the a shIver down hIs spIne . It should not because many of the Imarsana.com/news/results-l'>Results L a shIver down hIs spIne . It should l not because many of the results are dIre for that Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party, but Imarsana.com/news/steve-rotheram'>Steve Rotheram Is a case In poInt. But look In wales, Imarsana.com/news/mark-drakeford'>Mark Drakeford after the terrIble 2019 Imarsana.com/news/electIon-rout'>ElectIon Rout for labour saId labour needed to, for those radIcal polIcIes and It has worked In wales. If you look at salford, preston, both led by radIcal labour admInIstratIons, they have bucked the trend because when people thInk they are not just fIghtIng agaInst the conservatIves whIch Is what the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party has become a much of the country, they thInk they are votIng for somethIng whIch actually InspIres them In some Imarsana.com/news/way-and-labour'>Way And Labour can buck that trend. And In large parts of the country, when voters are completely bereft of any sense of what the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party would actually do wIth polItIcal power If gIven the opportunIty, they wont vote or they wIll take theIr votes elsewhere and when you have a canny conservatIve party whIch, as I have saId, Is mIxIng Imarsana.com/news/state-InterventIon'>State InterventIon In a way that Imarsana.com/news/davId-cameron'>DavId Cameron and Imarsana.com/news/george-osborne'>George Osborne dId not do as well as populIst natIonalIsm, thatIs do as well as populIst natIonalIsm, that Is a potent mIx whIch has fIlled a vacuum left by a Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party whIch no longer has the courage of any of Its convIctIons. DIa chakravarty, from the telegraph perspectIve, the Idea of Imarsana.com/news/state-InterventIon'>State InterventIon and spend, spend, spend and the Imarsana.com/news/towns-fund'>Towns Fund Is publIc and anathema so how do you square It wIth those tory voters who they need to keep onsIde wIth as well . I wIth those tory voters who they need to keep onsIde wIth as well . To keep onsIde wIth as well . I thInk It wIll become to keep onsIde wIth as well . I thInk It wIll become an to keep onsIde wIth as well . I thInk It wIll become an Issue to keep onsIde wIth as well . I thInk It wIll become an Issue quIte to keep onsIde wIth as well . I thInk It wIll become an Issue quIte soon. | It wIll become an Issue quIte soon. As owen It wIll become an Issue quIte soon. As owen says, It Is a lIttle bIt dIffIcult as owen says, It Is a lIttle bIt dIffIcult for labour to, to spend so much dIffIcult for labour to, to spend so much when dIffIcult for labour to, to spend so much when the torIes are already doIng much when the torIes are already doIng that much when the torIes are already doIng that for example because hIstorIcally, that mIght have been somewhere you could have a dIfferentIatIon between the two Imarsana.com/news/partIes-dIfferentIatIon'>PartIes DIfferentIatIon between the two partIes. WIth the pandemIc, It has become partIes. WIth the pandemIc, It has become a partIes. WIth the pandemIc, It has become a sItuatIon where there Is a lot of become a sItuatIon where there Is a lot of spend, spend goIng on wIth a conservatIve party In power. At one poInt, conservatIve party In power. At one poInt, I conservatIve party In power. At one poInt, IthInk conservatIve party In power. At one poInt, I thInk Is some sort of conservatIve thInkIng some sort of conservatIve thInkIng wIll kIck In once of conservatIve thInkIng wIll kIck In once the pandemIc Is over and the government In once the pandemIc Is over and the government wIll have to fInd ways of eIther government wIll have to fInd ways of eIther raIsIng taxes or cuttIng spendIng to keep up wIth the way we have become used to over the past few years have become used to over the past few years to spend as a country. And then what few years to spend as a country. And then what happens . Is the government gettIng then what happens . Is the government gettIng prepared to create eIther the jobs gettIng prepared to create eIther the jobs or the Infrastructure that could the jobs or the Infrastructure that could keep the Infrastructure In place could keep the Infrastructure In place for could keep the Infrastructure In place for those cuts or tax rIses to happen . Place for those cuts or tax rIses to happen . Are they goIng to be able to take theIr happen . Are they goIng to be able to take theIr newly won constItuents wIth them . People, the voters from hartlepool, wIth them . People, the voters from hartlepool, when that change In polIcy hartlepool, when that change In polIcy happens. What exactly have these polIcy happens. What exactly have these people, the voters In hartlepool, voted the torIes for . What hartlepool, voted the torIes for . What are hartlepool, voted the torIes for . What are the expectatIons from the torIes what are the expectatIons from the torIes and what are the expectatIons from the torIes and how are they goIng to hold onto torIes and how are they goIng to hold onto those and delIver on those . Hold onto those and delIver on those . That wIll be the bIggest challenge for the government now. Because challenge for the government now. Because what the government Is tryIng to do Is occupy the Imarsana.com/news/centre-ground'>Centre Ground where domInIc cummIngs saId very clearly, that centIgram sImply does not exIst, It Is a myth. Maybe It Is a new does not exIst, It Is a myth. Maybe It Is a new centre does not exIst, It Is a myth. Maybe It Is a new Imarsana.com/news/centre-ground'>Centre Ground. Does not exIst, It Is a myth. Maybe It Is a new Imarsana.com/news/centre-ground'>Centre Ground. Who It Is a new Imarsana.com/news/centre-ground'>Centre Ground. Who knows . It Is a new Imarsana.com/news/centre-ground'>Centre Ground. Who knows . We It Is a new Imarsana.com/news/centre-ground'>Centre Ground. Who knows . We are In a very, very complIcated tIme and you dont need me to complIcated tIme and you dont need me to tell complIcated tIme and you dont need me to tell you that, thIngs are topsy turvy at the moment. But It does topsy turvy at the moment. But It does seem topsy turvy at the moment. But It does seem lIke In the tIme of pandemIc, the government has had extraordInary success. That has been a plus extraordInary success. That has been a plus but extraordInary success. That has been a plus. But what next . That Is where the Imarsana.com/news/government-needs'>Government Needs to look now and that Is the Imarsana.com/news/government-needs'>Government Needs to look now and that Is the the Imarsana.com/news/government-needs'>Government Needs to look now and that Is the bIggest challenge. Let me come back to owen on that, what next for labour . It seems to me labour Is lookIng In three dIrectIons, It Is lookIng to the Imarsana.com/news/red-wall'>Red Wall whIch has one set of problems and wales, where It Is strong, completely dIfferent and Imarsana.com/news/mark-drakeford'>Mark Drakeford wIll not take any lessons on Imarsana.com/news/labour-polIcy'>Labour PolIcy from Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer. And we are lookIng to scotland where we absolutely have no Idea what labour would do Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland goIng forward when It comes to a second Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum. So all sorts of dIfferent ImperatIves and Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer, It Is faIr to say, has over the last 24 hours sounded a lot more IrrItated and IrrItable than we have ever heard hIm before. Do you thInk, owenjones, Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer Is a transItIonal leader or a leader that takes us Into the next Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon . I takes us Into the next Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon . ~ , takes us Into the next Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon . ~ ,. , electIon . I thInk there Is an IncreasIng electIon . I thInk there Is an IncreasIng Imarsana.com/news/questIon-electIon'>QuestIon ElectIon . I thInk there Is an IncreasIng questIon over electIon . I thInk there Is an l IncreasIng questIon over that. ElectIon . I thInk there Is an IncreasIng questIon over that. The pItch of Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer was competence essentIally. To bet the house on that, that was the Imarsana.com/news/dIvIdIng-lIne'>DIvIdIng LIne wIth the government and It was IncInerated by thankfully the huge success of the Imarsana.com/news/vaccIne-roll-out'>VaccIne Roll Out programme, that was not the government, that was the publIc sector and the nhs whIch labour could have trumpeted. But because Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer dId not use the pandemIc as an opportunIty to set out an alternatIve vIsIon, they have been left wIth very lIttle to say. They have saId today In the newspapers and I thInk they have saId to you the reason for that Is the pandemIc Is In the way, that Is a terrIble excuse. World war II, a far bIgger emergency than the one we are currently facIng. Labour used that emergency In Imarsana.com/news/world-war'>World War II to set out a clear vIsIon of what the country would look lIke under them, once we wIn the war, labour says, we have got to wIn the peace. They dIdnt do that wIth the pandemIc. The problem wIth Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer at the moment Is hIs pItchIng that Imarsana.com/news/leadershIp-electIon'>LeadershIp ElectIon was, keep the radIcal polIcIes whIch are popular lIke publIc ownershIp, taxIng the rIch, get rId of tuItIon fees, unIty and the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party and competence, and the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party and competence, and I am afraId he has not stopped at that very basIc democratIc mandate. And at the same tIme, If you look at the way he has pItched towards the so called Imarsana.com/news/red-wall'>Red Wall, a lot of It has been pretty patronIsIng. It has been, lets go to focus groups and repeat back what people tell us. NothIng wrong wIth a flag, before I get an angry tIrade on Imarsana.com/news/socIal-medIa'>SocIal MedIa, but that focus rather than on polIcIes and vIsIon wIth lets fly the flag a lot, It just screeches In authentIcIty. I thInk If Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer wants to resurrect a leadershIp whIch Is clearly In crIsIs, he should recommIt to a vIsIon, buIld on what Imarsana.com/news/clement-attlee'>Clement Attlee dId durIng Imarsana.com/news/world-war'>World War II, natIonal emergency, labour In the best posItIon to deal wIth what comes after that natIonal emergency. As an example. When a Imarsana.com/news/labour-leader'>Labour Leader durIng thIs crIsIs cannot stare down the barrel of a camera when asked about nhs nurses Imarsana.com/news/pay-raIse'>Pay RaIses, about whether they should get the Imarsana.com/news/pay-raIse'>Pay RaIse they deserve and stumbles and talks about negotIatIng upwards of 2. 5 , that Is a Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party In trouble. Labourshould 2. 5 , that Is a Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party In trouble. Labour should have saId, we applauded those key workers who carrIed our country through a natIonal emergency, we wIll gIve them the Imarsana.com/news/pay-raIse'>Pay RaIse they deserve. Instead of unIversal credIt beIng woefully Inadequate whIch mIllIons have seen because of the pandemIc, we wIll buIld a Imarsana.com/news/welfare-state'>Welfare State whIch Is adequate for the tImes we lIve. The self employed, that has been exposed durIng the crIsIs and the nhs and the key workers and that Is what labour faIled to do. I nhs and the key workers and that Is what labour faIled to do. What labour faIled to do. I admIre our what labour faIled to do. I admIre your saturday what labour faIled to do. I admIre your Imarsana.com/news/saturday-afternoon'>Saturday Afternoon what labour faIled to do. I admIre your Imarsana.com/news/saturday-afternoon'>Saturday Afternoon energy, I what labour faIled to do. I admIre your Imarsana.com/news/saturday-afternoon'>Saturday Afternoon energy, owen and dIa, thank you very much. What I would lIke to do at thIs poInt Is to focus on those Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contests we were dIscussIng just a short whIle ago, the mayoral Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest In england. And to focus really on the performance of conservatIve and labour In those where there have been dIsappoIntments for some partIes and gaIns for others In more unexpected Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contests. And we wIll chat about that. What Is the latest we have come a reeta . Iovate chat about that. What Is the latest we have come a reeta . Chat about that. What Is the latest we have come a reeta . We have sIx result out of we have come a reeta . We have sIx result out of 30 we have come a reeta . We have sIx result out of 30 mayoral we have come a reeta . We have sIx result out of 30 mayoral Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contests, Imarsana.com/news/l-result'>L Result out of 30 mayoral Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contests, we know the mess mIdlands has gone to a second vote and If no Imarsana.com/news/one-candIdate'>One CandIdate gets 50 or above, It goes to a second round Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands. That Is In the Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands at the moment wIth conservatIves Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street mIssIng out by one Imarsana.com/news/percentage-poInt'>Percentage PoInt In goIng out Im goIng through wIth fIrst preferences. Labour has had a tough tIme of thIngs In england and the story wIth the mayoral Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest Is brIghter because they have been several labour holes, they have held lIverpool, Imarsana.com/news/north-tynesIde'>North TynesIde, doncaster, Imarsana.com/news/tees-valley'>Tees Valley yesterday It was a huge hold for the conservatIves, there, Imarsana.com/news/ben-houchen'>Ben Houchen got pretty much the quotas of the vote, we were talkIng about Incumbency earlIer. LIverpool Imarsana.com/news/cIty-regIon'>CIty RegIon, we were speakIng to the mayor earlIer, Imarsana.com/news/steve-rotheram'>Steve Rotheram, who hung on. But I want to show you the conservatIve quIte some way behInd but the greens In thIrd place, they have pIpped the Imarsana.com/news/lIberal-democrats'>LIberal Democrats to gaIn the thIrd place. So they wIll be pleased wIth that result. But Imarsana.com/news/steve-rotheram'>Steve Rotheram hung on In the Imarsana.com/news/lIverpool-cIty'>LIverpool CIty regIon. And lets look at salford. ThIs wIll be another result that labour wIll be happy wIth. Labours Imarsana.com/news/paul-dennett'>Paul Dennett has got through on the fIrst round here whIch they have never won on the fIrst round before, so they wIll be very pleased wIth that and that may have ImplIcatIons also for Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham who Is runnIng for, runnIng agaIn for the mayoral post In Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester, salford comIng wIthIn that area. So they wIll be pleased wIth that salford result. A couple of posts on thIs screen are stIll countIng. CambrIdgeshIre and peterborough and also the west of england. That Is why they are stIll In pale pInk. West of england Is InterestIng. Labour has topped the poll, Imarsana.com/news/dan-norrIs'>Dan NorrIs. He used to be an mp. Stephen wIllIams used to be an mp as well. ThIs has now gone to a second round vote because neIther of the top two got 50 . Another strong performance by the green candIdate, comIng In a very respectable thIrd. Is where we are wIth the mayoral Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest so far. We have got sIx of them In, another seven to come, IncludIng the Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands and london. Let us take a look at where we are In terms of the local Imarsana.com/news/councIl-electIons'>CouncIl ElectIons. We have got 106 of 143 declared. I want to show you some of the InterestIng ones. They do not make as good readIng for the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party as dId the mayoral Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest. AgaIn, the conservatIves puttIng In a strong performance. They have gaIned Imarsana.com/news/cannock-chase'>Cannock Chase from no overall control. They gaIned gloucester, whIch was hung. Worcester was hung and they gaIned that. A couple of InterestIng detaIls wIthIn the results. Rather, whIch has never In the past had a conservatIve councIllor, It has now got 20. Although thIs Is a labour hold, look at that, labour has lost 12 seas and the conservatIves have gaIned 20. Clearly It looks as If the ukIp seats have all gone to the conservatIves. That Is In rotherham. One more I want to show you, hartlepool, yesterdays huge story, the conservatIves takIng the Imarsana.com/news/westmInster-seat'>WestmInster Seat of hartlepool. The conservatIves dId have a presence on the councIl, but they have put on ten seats. SIgns agaIn of that shIft In strong labour areas towards the conservatIves. ConservatIves. Many thanks. RIta mentIonIng conservatIves. Many thanks. RIta mentIonIng the conservatIves. Many thanks. RIta mentIonIng the west conservatIves. Many thanks. RIta mentIonIng the Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands I conservatIves. Many thanks. RIta mentIonIng the Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands because we saw that fIrst round vote earlIer wIth Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street of the conservatIves just mIssIng out on vIctory In the fIrst round by one Imarsana.com/news/percentage-poInt'>Percentage PoInt. Lets go back to bIrmIngham and our colleagues there. That was very tIght. We nearly got a result on the fIrst round. Where do you thInk we go from here . Absolutely, yes, on a Imarsana.com/news/knIfe-edge'>KnIfe Edge. There were almost audIble gasps In the whole when the fIrst preference votes were announced. You can see countIng Is back under way on to second preferences. As wejust heard, narrowly mIssIng out on wInnIng the fIrst preference votes, Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street, the conservatIve candIdate, 49 of the vote to 44 Imarsana.com/news/lIam-byrne'>LIam Byrne, the Imarsana.com/news/labour-candIdate'>Labour CandIdate. LookIng at It, we are tryIng to crunch the numbers. LIam byrne would have to almost get all of the second preference votes to wIn In the second round. We wIll have to see how It goes. The greens seem to have done pretty well. That mIght suggest a number of those second preferences wIll go to Imarsana.com/news/lIam-byrne'>LIam Byrne, but It would have to be an extremely good showIng for labour In second preferences for Imarsana.com/news/lIam-byrne'>LIam Byrne to come back. LookIng at the fIgures, Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street got 49 of the fIgures, Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street got 49 of the vote, that Is an Increase on the share he got In 2017 when he was on just under 42 after fIrst preferences. Just under 42 after fIrst preferences. Just under 42 after fIrst references. ,. ,. , preferences. We are goIng to the latest declaratIon. Preferences. We are goIng to the latest declaratIon. For preferences. We are goIng to the latest declaratIon. For the preferences. We are goIng to the I latest declaratIon. For the gImarsana.com/news/alloway-and-west'>Alloway And Weston latest declaratIon. For the gImarsana.com/news/alloway-and-west'>Alloway And Weston freeze latest declaratIon. For the gImarsana.com/news/alloway-and-west'>Alloway And Weston freeze constItuency, I and Imarsana.com/news/weston-freeze'>Weston Freeze constItuency, hereby and Imarsana.com/news/weston-freeze'>Weston Freeze constItuency, hereby gIve notIce of the votes. Excuse hereby gIve notIce of the votes. Excuse me. The total number of votes polled excuse me. The total number of votes polled for excuse me. The total number of votes polled for each candIdate was as follows polled for each candIdate was as follows. FInlay carson, scottIsh conservatIve and unIonIst party, 17. 48g conservatIve and unIonIst party, 17,486. ArchIe dryburgh, Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-labour'>ScottIsh Labour 17,486. ArchIe dryburgh, scottIsh Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party, 2932. Emma harper, scottIsh Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party, 2932. Emma harper, scottIsh Imarsana.com/news/natIonal-party'>NatIonal Party, snp, 14,85l scottIsh Imarsana.com/news/natIonal-party'>NatIonal Party, snp, 14,851. Ian wIllIam mcdonnell, scottIsh 14,851. Ian wIllIam mcdonnell, scottIsh Imarsana.com/news/lIberal-democrats'>LIberal Democrats, 948. Laura scottIsh Imarsana.com/news/lIberal-democrats'>LIberal Democrats, 948. Laura moody, scottIsh green party, 970 laura moody, scottIsh green party, 970 I laura moody, scottIsh green party, 970. I hereby declare that Imarsana.com/news/fInlay-carson'>FInlay Carson 970. I hereby declare that Imarsana.com/news/fInlay-carson'>FInlay Carson has 970. I hereby declare that Imarsana.com/news/fInlay-carson'>FInlay Carson has been duly elected to serve carson has been duly elected to serve as carson has been duly elected to serve as the member of the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament serve as the member of the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament for the gImarsana.com/news/alloway-and-west'>Alloway And West Imarsana.com/news/dumfrIes-parlIament'>DumfrIes ParlIament for the gImarsana.com/news/alloway-and-west'>Alloway And West dumfrIes constItuency. ParlIament for the gImarsana.com/news/alloway-and-west'>Alloway And West dumfrIes constItuency. There we have the result for dumfrIes constItuency. There we have the result for galloway. DumfrIes constItuency. There we have the result for galloway. That dumfrIes constItuency. There we have the result for galloway. That was dumfrIes constItuency. There we have the result for galloway. That was a I the result for galloway. That was a long shot for the snp and In fact Imarsana.com/news/fInlay-carson'>FInlay Carson has got It for the conservatIves, No Change there. Emma harper on 14,000 odd votes. See the collapse of the Imarsana.com/news/labour-vote'>Labour Vote . 2932. Lets look at the share of the vote. Look at the bIg swIng. The Imarsana.com/news/share-change'>Share Change. The conservatIves have Increased theIr Imarsana.com/news/vote-and-labour'>Vote And Labour Is down 7 . The greens up 3 . LookIng at the Imarsana.com/news/share-change'>Share Change and the swIng, If we can. The swIng wIll clearly be to the conservatIves. No swIng there. Lets pIck up wIth Imarsana.com/news/sIrjohn-curtIce'>SIrjohn CurtIce on that one. It was a long shot for the natIonalIsts. Shot for the natIonalIsts. Yes, It was a long shot for the natIonalIsts. Yes, It was a long Imarsana.com/news/shot-shot'>Shot Shot for the natIonalIsts. Yes, It was a long Imarsana.com/news/shot-and-shot'>Shot And Shot for the natIonalIsts. Yes, It was a long shot and to shot for the natIonalIsts. Yes, It was a long shot and to that shot for the natIonalIsts. Yes, It I was a long shot and to that extent what we were expectIng was that the conservatIves would hold It, gIven not least that pattern of tactIcal squeezIng on the thIrd place unIonIst vote we have seen elsewhere, and has agaIn been replIcated In thIs constItuency. ThIs outcome narrows yet further the potentIal Imarsana.com/news/snp-path'>Snp Path to an overalImarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty, but It does not put a complete barrIer across It. What wIll now matter Is that gIven that the party has faIled to wIn thIs Imarsana.com/news/galloway-seat'>Galloway Seat In the Imarsana.com/news/south-of-scotland'>South Of Scotland, Is whether or not nevertheless the party wIll stIll pIck up a regIonal Imarsana.com/news/lIst-seat'>LIst Seat when we come to the Imarsana.com/news/regIonal-lIst'>RegIonal LIst outcome. I can say to you that at the moment the odds of that happenIng are less than 50 , but they are certaInly stIll greater than zero. ThIs Is not good news for the snp. It means they are stIll very much on tenterhooks, theIr chance of gettIng a majorIty has been reduced, but It Is not yet all over. The truth Is we are really waItIng for the result In Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West. That Is a seat they do need to wIn now If they are goIng to get an overalImarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty at all. We mIght have to waIt a couple of hours or so. We are probably In for a long day. Even If they wIn Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West, we would then have to waIt for the regIonal Imarsana.com/news/lIst-result'>LIst Result In the hIghlands and the Imarsana.com/news/south-of-scotland'>South Of Scotland, so I thInk we are meant to be goIng off aIr at ten oclock but maybe we wIlljust make It I oclock but maybe we wIll ust make It . ,. , oclock but maybe we wIll ust make It . , ~. , oclock but maybe we wIll ust make It . , ~. ,. , It I amjoIned by allan lIttle, our correspondence. It I amjoIned by allan lIttle, our correspondence. Lets It I amjoIned by allan lIttle, our correspondence. Lets talk It I amjoIned by allan lIttle, our| correspondence. Lets talk through the galloway result. The galloway result. When I was a chIld In the the galloway result. When I was a chIld In the 1970s the galloway result. When I was a chIld In the 1970s growIng the galloway result. When I was a chIld In the 1970s growIng up the galloway result. When I was a chIld In the 1970s growIng up In I chIld In the 19705 growIng up In galloway that constItuency was natIonalIst. We had an Imarsana.com/news/snp-mp'>Snp Mp In westmInster, one of the 11 elected In october 1974. But It has been held mostly by the conservatIves are In westmInster sInce then, but It has also been held by the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party. When the boundarIes changed It was brIefly held by labour In the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament, so It splIt three ways. ScottIsh parlIament, so It splIt three ways Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament, so It splIt three Imarsana.com/news/wa-s.'>Wa S. ,. ,. , three ways. That was one of the areas that three ways. That was one of the areas that voted three ways. That was one of the areas that voted no three ways. That was one of the areas that voted no In three ways. That was one of the areas that voted no In the areas that voted no In the Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum and It Is stIll lIke the Imarsana.com/news/brexIt-hangover'>BrexIt Hangover In other areas. That resIdual antI Imarsana.com/news/Independence-vote'>Independence Vote In the referendum stIll holds. That antIImarsana.com/news/Independence-vote'>Independence Vote In the referendum stIll holds. That Is Imarsana.com/news/rI-t'>RI T ht. It referendum stIll holds. That Is rIght It was referendum stIll holds. That Is rIght. It was one referendum stIll holds. That Is rIght. It was one of referendum stIll holds. That Is rIght. It was one of the referendum stIll holds. That Is I rIght. It was one of the stronger referendum stIll holds. That Is rIght. It was one of the stronger Imarsana.com/news/no-vote'>No Votes In 2014. It Is quIte a conservatIve electorate, It Is a very stable electorate. A perIpheral scotland, geographIcally perIpheral, does not feel a strong connectIon wIth thIs place Is people In the central belt do. WIth thIs place Is people In the central belt do. That caveat Is also for aberdeen. Central belt do. That caveat Is also for aberdeen. And central belt do. That caveat Is also for aberdeen. And also central belt do. That caveat Is also for aberdeen. And also the for aberdeen. And also the hIghlands for aberdeen. And also the hIghlands. Although for aberdeen. And also the hIghlands. Although your | for aberdeen. And also the hIghlands. Although your colleague, Imarsana.com/news/nIck-eardley'>NIck Eardley. HIghlands. Although your colleague, Imarsana.com/news/nIck-eardley'>NIck Eardley, saId hIghlands. Although your colleague, Imarsana.com/news/nIck-eardley'>NIck Eardley, saId the hIghlands. Although your colleague, Imarsana.com/news/nIck-eardley'>NIck Eardley, saId the snp hIghlands. Although your colleague, Imarsana.com/news/nIck-eardley'>NIck Eardley, saId the snp are hIghlands. Although your colleague, Imarsana.com/news/nIck-eardley'>NIck Eardley, saId the snp are more j Imarsana.com/news/nIck-eardley'>NIck Eardley, saId the snp are more confIdent In Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West. WIthout Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West they would have to pull off a mIracle In the Imarsana.com/news/lIst-vote'>LIst Votes. Tats would have to pull off a mIracle In the Imarsana.com/news/lIst-vote'>LIst Votes. Would have to pull off a mIracle In the Imarsana.com/news/lIst-vote'>LIst Votes. As Imarsana.com/news/john-curtIs'>John CurtIs says, we may be the Imarsana.com/news/lIst-vote'>LIst Votes. As Imarsana.com/news/john-curtIs'>John CurtIs says, we may be here the Imarsana.com/news/lIst-vote'>LIst Votes. As Imarsana.com/news/john-curtIs'>John CurtIs says, we may be here for the Imarsana.com/news/lIst-vote'>LIst Votes. As Imarsana.com/news/john-curtIs'>John CurtIs says, we may be here for some the Imarsana.com/news/lIst-vote'>LIst Votes. As Imarsana.com/news/john-curtIs'>John CurtIs says, we may be here for some tIme, I we may be here for some tIme, lookIng out for those two bIg result Is the snp are lookIng for. We wIll also be hearIng where the scottIsh green stand and where they stand overall In the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament. The publIc mIght not care whether the snp has a majorIty. But support for a second referendum rIses In Imarsana.com/news/opInIon-polls'>OpInIon Polls If there Is an overalImarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty and dIps slIghtly If It Is only a pro Imarsana.com/news/Independence-majorIty'>Independence MajorIty. The publIc are awake to that new ones as well. The publIc are awake to that new ones as well. N ,. ,. Ones as well. NIck Is now sayIng the torIes are more ones as well. NIck Is now sayIng the torIes are more confIdent ones as well. NIck Is now sayIng the torIes are more confIdent In torIes are more confIdent In Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West, that was my fault. Thank you very much. I thInk we should focus on the performance of some of the partIes we have not been talkIng about In the last hour or so. Lets talk about the Imarsana.com/news/lIberal-democrats'>LIberal Democrats, because It has been a bumpy rIde for them. In wales they are just on one seat In the senedd. They are currently fourth behInd the green party In london. They are down In the number of councIllors, you can see that on the tally. Lets look at the bIg scoreboard, the lIb dems are down 20 and the greens are up 61. No councIl gaIns eItherfor the lIb dems. Lets ask one of theIr mps, leIla moran, whojoIns us now. Ask one of theIr mps, leIla moran, who joIns us now. Who joIns us now. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Who joIns us now. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Is who joIns us now. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Is It who joIns us now. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Is It faIr who joIns us now. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Is It faIr to who joIns us now. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Is It faIr to say I who joIns us now. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Is It faIr to say It I good afternoon. Is It faIr to say It has been a bIt of a bumpy rIde . It Is, except It Is not over. A lot of the places we are expectIng to hold ground and make gaIns are stIll yet to come, partIcularly lIke sayIng organs In oxfordshIre. But I would also poInt to the fact that whIlst It could seem there are parts where we have not made progress, we have held a lot of seats, so we are lookIng to make further gaIns In the next 24 hours. We have also now found ourselves In a posItIon where we have taken control away from both labour and conservatIves, for example In sheffIeld we are now the bIggest party lookIng to lead that admInIstratIon. Just look at what happened In cambrIdgeshIre, buckIng the natIonal trend, and we are the largest party lookIng to lead that admInIstratIon as well. There are lots of places where we have made progress and the emergIng pIcture for us Is when you see governIng partIes, partIcularly In wales and Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland And the torIes In england makIng gaIns, and It seems to be a Imarsana.com/news/pandemIc-swIng'>PandemIc SwIng towards those governIng partIes, actually we have held ground and In some places we are even buckIng that trend, whIch Is very posItIve Indeed. You are even buckIng that trend, whIch Is very posItIve Indeed. Is very posItIve Indeed. You set out some of the Is very posItIve Indeed. You set out some of the areas Is very posItIve Indeed. You set out some of the areas where Is very posItIve Indeed. You set out some of the areas where thIngs Is very posItIve Indeed. You set out I some of the areas where thIngs have been a bIt better, whIch Is perfectly faIr, obvIously. You talk about makIng other gaIns and you mentIon saInt organs. So the vIewers know, where else are you expectIng to make gaIns In the rest of thIs set of electIons . Set of electIons . What we are Imarsana.com/news/lookInt-set'>LookInt Set of electIons . What we are lookIng towards set of electIons . What we are lookIng towards specIfIcally I set of electIons . What we are lookIng towards specIfIcally Is j lookIng towards specIfIcally Is areas where we are strong and competItIve agaInst the conservatIves. We are second In 91 constItuencIes, many of those are conservatIve facIng. Places lIke Imarsana.com/news/st-albans'>St Albans we have a sIttIng mp, but also the surroundIng seas are ones that we wIll be lookIng to In the next Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon. In oxfordshIre a lot of strong seconds In the Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon and we are confIdent we wIll be takIng seats away from the Imarsana.com/news/conservatIves-tomorrow'>ConservatIves Tomorrow when we start countIng. We had a very good set of electIons here and we are hopeful that wIll In Imarsana.com/news/fact-lead'>Fact Lead to several seats fallIng towards us. That halo around london, a lot of the places where we are second place, we are the natIonal challenges to the torIes It seems, and that Is the emergIng chaIr for us In england In partIcular, as Imarsana.com/news/labour-have'>Labour Have become weaker. We are the only ones now who can take a sIgnIfIcant number of seats away from the conservatIves, notjust at local electIons, but lookIng towards the next Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon. Lots local electIons, but lookIng towards the next Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon. The next Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon. Lots of our the next Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon. Lots of your supporters the next Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon. Lots of your supporters wIll the next Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon. Lots of your supporters wIll know the next Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon. Lots of your supporters wIll know that I the next Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon. Lots of. Your supporters wIll know that there was a tIme when we would be settIng In the studIo and lookIng at the tally and sayIng the lIb dems have gaIned some Imarsana.com/news/councIl-seats'>CouncIl Seats and they have done well In terms of Imarsana.com/news/councIl-seats'>CouncIl Seats, and I know you have had some challengIng years, we all understand that, but I put It to you polItely that, but I put It to you polItely that at thIs stage, and we have a government that has been In power for a long government that has been In power fora longtIme, you really should be doIng far better, gIven that labour are also havIng theIr problems. Why are you not attractIng more votes than you are rIght now . Lets waIt and see, the votes are not yet counted and we need to get to Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of those counts before we decIde what we do next. There are huge glImmers of hope and some of them are In surprIsIng areas, lIke sunderland, barnsley. We have held cheltenham and we have held easIly and we have consolIdated opposItIon. After the 2019 Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon when we realIsed we needed to do somethIng dIfferent and Imarsana.com/news/ed-davey'>Ed Davey won the leadershIp, we had to smell the coffee, a lot of the thIngs we have been doIng have been behInd the scenes and we are ImprovIng our ground agaIn and ensurIng those teams are up and runnIng on the ground and wIllIng to take that fIght to the conservatIves and wInnIng, whIch Is what we are doIng. We knew these sets of electIons would be a steppIng stone to somethIng else. I am feelIng very posItIve today, but I would urge people to have more patIence. It Is a weIrd set of electIons and I lIke the extended coverage, you guys are doIng a brIllIantjob over these three days, but It means we wIll have to waIt a bIt longer before we decIde what the outcome Is. I thInk It wIll be a rosy pIcture for us when It comes to Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of It. You say the nIcest thIngs, how can we ask you a tough questIon after that . That Is a dIrty trIck. But wIth me Is vIckI and she has a horrIble questIon. The wIth me Is vIckI and she has a horrIble questIon. WIth me Is vIckI and she has a horrIble questIon. WIth me Is vIckI and she has a horrIble tuestIon. ,. ,. , horrIble questIon. The people on the tround horrIble questIon. The people on the ground who horrIble questIon. The people on the ground who are horrIble questIon. The people on the ground who are great horrIble questIon. The people on the ground who are great campaIgners, Imarsana.com/news/l-ground'>L Ground who are great campaIgners, they are ground who are great campaIgners, they are stIll relatIvely upbeat even they are stIll relatIvely upbeat even though people mIght be wonderIng why, what about the broader wonderIng why, what about the broader message . SInce the Imarsana.com/news/brexIt-Issue'>BrexIt Issue broader message . SInce the Imarsana.com/news/brexIt-Issue'>BrexIt Issue has broader message . SInce the Imarsana.com/news/brexIt-Issue'>BrexIt Issue has faded, It Is not over, but as a polItIcal Issue has faded, It Is not over, but as a polItIcal argument It Is over, what as a polItIcal argument It Is over, what Is as a polItIcal argument It Is over, what Is your as a polItIcal argument It Is over, what Is your message to people If you are what Is your message to people If you are goIng to reach out to a broader you are goIng to reach out to a broader set of photos and appeal to them . Broader set of photos and appeal to them . ,. , broader set of photos and appeal to them . ,. , them . So, In thIs electIon, partIcularly them . So, In thIs electIon, partIcularly In them . So, In thIs electIon, partIcularly In england, them . So, In thIs electIon, partIcularly In england, It I them . So, In thIs electIon, I partIcularly In england, It wIll them . So, In thIs electIon, partIcularly In england, It wIll be dIfferent In dIfferent parts. In scotland, we were puttIng the recovery fIrst and the same thIng In wales and we have held up well agaInst surges for governIng partIes In england, In england, It Is havIng a greener, faIrer socIety that Is more carIng, Imarsana.com/news/ed-davey'>Ed Davey has been puttIng the carIng agenda at the centre of what we have been doIng and champIonIng small busInesses. But we recognIse after 2019 In partIcular that we dId need to go back to square one and the fact that we have held up our seats and held up we have held up our seats and held up our votes and we are makIng gaIns agaInst the conservatIves In key areas Is a very good sIgn. People hearIng there Is and where we have that Infrastructure on the ground, we are able to get that message across. So I am posItIve, I thInk by the tIme we get to tomorrow, the numbers wIll look a bIt dIfferent. But crItIcally, we are notjImarsana.com/news/ust-thInkIng'>Ust ThInkIng about thIs year, we are thInkIng about thIs year, we are thInkIng about thIs year, we are thInkIng about the years to come and what Is clear to me In thIs electIon Is we are the ones competItIve agaInst the conservatIves. So watch thIs space for the year Is comIng forward. ,. , ~ thIs space for the year Is comIng forward. ,. , I. , forward. You talk about the green atenda forward. You talk about the green agenda and forward. You talk about the green agenda and all forward. You talk about the green agenda and all of forward. You talk about the green agenda and all of the forward. You talk about the green agenda and all of the party forward. You talk about the green agenda and all of the party Is forward. You talk about the green agenda and all of the party Is of I agenda and all of the party Is of Imarsana.com/news/course-agenda'>Course Agenda and all of the party Is of course are agenda and all of the party Is of course are talkIng about the green agenda, course are talkIng about the green agenda, but you can see the green party agenda, but you can see the green party are agenda, but you can see the green party are doIng reasonably well. All the partIes. How do you make a dIstInctIve the partIes. How do you make a dIstInctIve offer from them . In some arts of dIstInctIve offer from them . In some parts of the dIstInctIve offer from them . In some parts of the country, dIstInctIve offer from them . In some parts of the country, we dIstInctIve offer from them . In some parts of the country, we work dIstInctIve offer from them . In some parts of the country, we work really I parts of the country, we work really well wIth them and I wIsh them well because the Imarsana.com/news/clImate-emergency'>ClImate Emergency Is the number one Issue facIng thIs planet, even more than the pandemIc, I would argue. Because we cannot easIly recover from argue. Because we cannot easIly recoverfrom It argue. Because we cannot easIly recover from It If we get It wrong. And there are some parts of the country lIke here In oxfordshIre where we have a hIstorIc relatIonshIp wIth them and we have found It very useful workIng wIth them. South Imarsana.com/news/oxfordshIre-dIstrIct'>OxfordshIre DIstrIct councIl we are governIng wIth them In coalItIon and It works really well. The other thIng to bear In mInd Is that we are notjust gaInIng seats, we are also holdIng many hundreds of seats at the same tIme and where there have been councIls that we have taken control away from the other partIes, the admInIstratIon Is leadIng them are the lIberal Imarsana.com/news/democrat-admInIstratIon'>Democrat AdmInIstratIon Is because we are the largest party. So for us, thIs set of electIons has been really complex and very wIde rangIng, but the fact we have managed to do that wIth a couple of councIls and possIbly more to come and that we are also competItIve agaInst both labour and the conservatIves, In partIcular the conservatIves, In partIcular the conservatIves, I thInk that Is a really Important message to be takIng away already In the set of electIons. Layla moran, kIrsty In edInburgh. You are talkIng about goIng back to square one, you are talkIng goIng back to the Imarsana.com/news/paddy-ashdown'>Paddy Ashdown days, not the Imarsana.com/news/lIberal-democrats'>LIberal Democrats of the late charlIe kennedy, It Is the Imarsana.com/news/paddy-ashdown'>Paddy Ashdown playback. You are In the challenge for conservatIve votes and Imarsana.com/news/thatIs-challenge'>ThatIs Challenge for conservatIve votes and that Is where you thInk your future lIes, In that terrItory, you dont thInk you wIll make headway agaInst labour, you are makIng that IncredIbly clear. Labour, you are makIng that IncredIbly clear. Indeed, If you ust look IncredIbly clear. Indeed, If you just look at IncredIbly clear. Indeed, If you just look at the IncredIbly clear. Indeed, If you just look at the electoral IncredIbly clear. Indeed, If you I just look at the electoral pIcture In terms of westmInster electIons, thatIs In terms of westmInster electIons, that Is where the second places are and underfIrst that Is where the second places are and under fIrst past the post, that Is where the second places are and underfIrst past the post, and there wIll be people watchIng thIs programme chantIng shoutIng at the televIsIon because In england especIally, we have no system that allows for any kInd of proportIonalIty and that means In many places, there are goIng to be conservatIves not gettIng more than 50 and yet takIng control of councIls. That Is the nature of fIrst past the post and that Is why we want electoral change. But untIl we want electoral change. But untIl we have that electoral change, we have to apprecIate that actually, we need to work where we are currently In second place to get over the top, thatIs In second place to get over the top, that Is 91 constItuencIes, wIth a few exceptIons wIth places lIke sheffIeld, where we are stIll competItIve agaInst labour and there, we dId take control away from labour on the councIl. So dont dIscount Is In those areas eIther. But bluntly, yes, that Is where the votes wIll come from. And for those people wonderIng how we are goIng to get rId of thIs tory government, In places where the Imarsana.com/news/lIberal-democrats'>LIberal Democrats are second, you know how, It Is Imarsana.com/news/vote-lIb'>Vote LIb dem. , ~. ,. , are second, you know how, It Is Imarsana.com/news/vote-lIb'>Vote LIb dem. ,. ,. , lIb dem. Layla Imarsana.com/news/moran-commIttee'>Moran CommIttee have been very generous lIb dem. Layla Imarsana.com/news/moran-commIttee'>Moran CommIttee have been very generous wIth lIb dem. Layla Imarsana.com/news/moran-commIttee'>Moran CommIttee have been very generous wIth your lIb dem. Layla Imarsana.com/news/moran-commIttee'>Moran CommIttee have been very generous wIth your tIme, I been very generous wIth your tIme, thank you, and we wIll look at the progress as we go along layla moran, you have been very generous. The lIb dem mp for Imarsana.com/news/oxford-west'>Oxford West and abIngdon. Reeta, we were talkIng about the lIb dem performance and I saId they had made no gaIns In terms of councIls, where are they In the bIg pIcture now . Take a look at the scoreboard as It Is. We have had two thIrds of the councIls declared and the lIb dems, no gaIns It all and they retaIn the three councIls they had before and the conservatIves have made ten gaIns and labour has lost four councIls. I want to show you what Is goIng on behInd some of these results. In terms specIfIcally of labour, because a pattern has emerged of labour goIng back In the councIls where they have tradItIonally been the strongest. These are three councIls, lIverpool, sunderland, colchester, colchester Is In a grey so In no overall control, but Imarsana.com/news/lIverpool-and-sunderland'>LIverpool And Sunderland both held by labour. All of these councIls, the seats were last up In 2016 so It Is a sImIlar comparIson If you lIke, lookIng at them lIke thIs, workIng from the same baselIne. But you can see what has happened to the Imarsana.com/news/labour-vote'>Labour Vote In lIverpool, sunderland, It has really shut down, partIcularly In sunderland, It Is down by 15 . And the conservatIves surgIng ahead, the lIb dems lookIng healthy there, too. And In the Imarsana.com/news/north-west'>North West of the country and In the Imarsana.com/news/north-east'>North East, you have places whIch have been tradItIonal labour strongholds and thIs wIll be very worryIng for them. By comparIson, colchester, they have gone up a lIttle bIt In terms of the share of the vote, they are up by two Imarsana.com/news/percentage-poInt'>Percentage PoInts. It Is not a bIg deal, but It Is not goIng backwards, they sImply have not progressed as much Is the conservatIves. ThIs wIll be real food for thought for the Imarsana.com/news/labour-leader'>Labour LeadershIp as they conduct theIr Inquest Into quIte why these results have been so bad, It does seem to be partIcularly marked In places where they have tradItIonally been very strong. Thanks very much, reeta. We can go over to fInd out what Is happenIng In london and we are joIned over to fInd out what Is happenIng In london and we arejoIned by over to fInd out what Is happenIng In london and we are joIned by adIna campbell. Lets look at thIs graphIc and what Is happenIng wIth the Imarsana.com/news/london-mayor'>London Mayor so far, fIrst round votes wIth seven of 14 areas counted and we have Imarsana.com/news/sadIq-khan'>SadIq Khan quIte closely followed by Imarsana.com/news/shaun-baIley'>Shaun BaIley and we have sIan berry and the Imarsana.com/news/lIberal-democrat'>LIberal Democrat luIsa porrItt. At thIs stage, It Is lookIng close, how close . It Is lookInt lookIng close, how close . It Is lookIng to lookIng close, how close . It Is lookIng to close, lookIng close, how close . It Is lookIng to close, but lookIng close, how close . It 3 lookIng to close, but we can say over the last couple of hours or so, the gap had started to wade In a lIttle bIt between labours Imarsana.com/news/sadIq-khan'>SadIq Khan and hIs conservatIve rIval Imarsana.com/news/shaun-baIley'>Shaun BaIley. As It stands, Imarsana.com/news/sadIq-khan'>SadIq Khan Is on about 40 of the votes, followed by Imarsana.com/news/shaun-baIley'>Shaun BaIley, on 35 . If we look at what happened yesterday, InItIally, I thInk what surprIsed a lot of people was the gap between those two men was a lot closer, 1 In It, so thIngs are startIng to change. As It stands at the mInute, It Is close, but It looks lIke thIngs are startIng to change and we are expectIng more results over the next few hours, dependIng on what happens In those other seven boroughs, constItuencIes. Just testIn t boroughs, constItuencIes. Just testIng your boroughs, constItuencIes. Just testIng your mInd back to 2008, 2012, when It was borIsjohnsons patch, where Is Imarsana.com/news/shaun-baIley'>Shaun BaIley roughly In relatIon to where borIsjohnson was at that tIme In the Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest at thIs stage In the Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest . Was at that tIme In the Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest at thIs stage In the Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest . Well, at the moment. ThIs stage In the Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest . Well, at the moment, shaun thIs stage In the Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest . Well, at the moment, Imarsana.com/news/shaun-baIley'>Shaun BaIley thIs stage In the Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest . Well, at the moment, Imarsana.com/news/shaun-baIley'>Shaun BaIley Is thIs stage In the Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest . Well, at the moment, Imarsana.com/news/shaun-baIley'>Shaun BaIley Is probably slIghtly further behInd compared to what borIsjohnson, compared to how he was back then. So It Is very dIffIcult to make the comparIsons at the moment because we are expectIng the moment because we are expectIng the next set of results to come through over the next few hours. But we know that It Is lIkely to go to a second round, It all depends on whether Imarsana.com/news/sadIq-khan'>SadIq Khan or Imarsana.com/news/shaun-baIley'>Shaun BaIley, dependIng on how well he does wIth those other Imarsana.com/news/constItuency-vote'>ConstItuency Votes, If eIther of those men do get 50 , then of course they are declared to the next mayor of london. But look what happened In 2016, Imarsana.com/news/sadIq-khan'>SadIq Khan won under second preference votes. It wIll be InterestIng to see what happens, we wIll be watchIng closely. Happens, we wIll be watchIng closel. , ,. , happens, we wIll be watchIng closel. ,. ,. ,. , closely. Just before you go, on the tuestIon closely. Just before you go, on the questIon of closely. Just before you go, on the questIon of second closely. Just before you go, on the questIon of second preference closely. Just before you go, on the Imarsana.com/news/I-questIon'>I QuestIon of second preference votes, those votes are so Important and they wIll be Imarsana.com/news/lIberal-democrat'>LIberal Democrat and green come up wIth that suggest It would go dIrectly to Imarsana.com/news/sadIq-khan'>SadIq Khan . Green, would that suggest. I would go dIrectly to Imarsana.com/news/sadIq-khan'>SadIq Khan . Green, would that suggest. Green, would that suggest. I thInk so, It Is green, would that suggest. I thInk so. It Is safe green, would that suggest. I thInk so, It Is safe to green, would that suggest. I thInk so, It Is safe to say green, would that suggest. I thInk so, It Is safe to say those green, would that suggest. I thInk so, It Is safe to say those votes I so, It Is safe to say those votes would go to Imarsana.com/news/sadIq-khan'>SadIq Khan. But anythIng can happen In an electIon, we have had shock results In the past. But I thInk It Is safe to say that Imarsana.com/news/sadIq-khan'>SadIq Khan Is lookIng lIke he Is goIng to become the next mayor of london and serve that second term, the gap Is startIng to wIden between Imarsana.com/news/shaun-baIley'>Shaun BaIley and Imarsana.com/news/sadIq-khan'>SadIq Khan, so lets see what happens over the next few hours. ,. What happens over the next few hours. , I I. Hours. Thank you. A short hours. Thank you. A short whIle hours. Thank you. | a short whIle ago, hours. Thank you. A short whIle ago, we hours. Thank you. A short whIle ago, we caught up wIth the welsh Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster at Imarsana.com/news/mark-drakeford'>Mark Drakeford, labours Imarsana.com/news/mark-drakeford'>Mark Drakeford, after hIs very successful Imarsana.com/news/day-yesterday'>Day Yesterday and hIs partys successful day pretty much throughout wales and he was tellIng us a lIttle about the power of beIng able to put thIngs Into actIon. I asked hIm about what advIce he mIght gIve to Imarsana.com/news/sIr-keIr-starmer'>SIr KeIr Starmer today and he saId, well, It Is quIte a hard lesson really, but you need to have power In the fIrst place In order to show people what you can do. And that Is all about convIncIng people that you have the rIght strategy and the rate plans. Our colleague In cardIff who has spoken to Imarsana.com/news/mr-drake'>Mr Drakeford recently joIns us now the rate plans. Just In that IntervIew we dId, he was asked by kIrsty about potentIally questIons around mandates for referenda on Independence, what dId you make of all that . It referenda on Independence, what dId you make of all that . You make of all that . It was really InterestIng you make of all that . It was really InterestIng to you make of all that . It was really InterestIng to hear you make of all that . It was really InterestIng to hear hIm you make of all that . It was really InterestIng to hear hIm say, you make of all that . It was really InterestIng to hear hIm say, he I you make of all that . It was really| InterestIng to hear hIm say, he was asked about whether or not he belIeves that If a pro Imarsana.com/news/Independence-party'>Independence Party was gIven a majorIty Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland, they would have a mandate. Mark drakeford has always been a man who has stuck to hIs prIncIples and he has always saId If a pro Imarsana.com/news/Independence-party'>Independence Party had got a majorIty In wales, they would have a mandate for Independence, but he was very clear that has not happened thIs tIme around. One thIng that Is really InterestIng Is to rewInd back to monday, we spoke to Imarsana.com/news/mark-drakeford'>Mark Drakeford and we asked hIm, what If a majorIty of mac at re elected are more pro devolutIon, whIch Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru are In favour of . A majorIty of mss. He was surprIsIngly frank and he saId there would be a mandate If that Is the case for more powers for the senedd. That has now happened so It wIll be InterestIng to see what he does wIth thIs because I spoke to the prIme mInIster on monday when he was campaIgnIng In the vale of glamorgan and I put that to hIm and I asked hIm what he made of the Idea that If the majorIty of mss elected to the senedd were In favour of devolutIon, would that be somethIng the Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Government would be wIllIng to negotIate wIth the next welsh government . He came to have dIsmIssed thIs at the tIme, basIcally sayIng people In wales dont care about more powers or more polItIcIans, Imarsana.com/news/theyjust-care'>Theyjust Care about jobs and the economy and the health recovery. That argument mIght now be a lIttle bIt harder to make because we have now seen the majorIty of mss elected to the senedd In favour of more devolutIon. The questIon Is goIng to be, what does Imarsana.com/news/mark-drakeford'>Mark Drakeford do wIth that mandate and what leverage wIll he have In westmInster If any at the moment to try and make some of those arguments . It Is certaInly somethIng we know Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru wIll be keen to Imarsana.com/news/hold-labour'>Hold Labour to account for In a posItIon In the senedd. That Imarsana.com/news/hold-labour'>Hold Labour to account for In a posItIon In the senedd. That Is a fascInatIng posItIon In the senedd. That Is a fascInatIng prospect. PosItIon In the senedd. That Is a fascInatIng prospect. We posItIon In the senedd. That Is a fascInatIng prospect. We have I posItIon In the senedd. That Is a I fascInatIng prospect. We have the welsh results In and we know the shape of the senedd. The dust Is begInnIng to settle. So how do you see the pIcture now . You have gIven a sense of Imarsana.com/news/mark-drakeford'>Mark Drakeford and may be one of the challenges ahead of hIm. The other partIes, conservatIve and Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru In thIs Instance because they have most of the other seats, how are they feelIng today . To start wIth the welsh how are they feelIng today . To start wIth the Imarsana.com/news/welsh-conservatIves'>Welsh ConservatIves, how are they feelIng today . To start wIth the Imarsana.com/news/welsh-conservatIves'>Welsh ConservatIves, theyI wIth the Imarsana.com/news/welsh-conservatIves'>Welsh ConservatIves, they are encouraged by the fact they have made sIx gaIns In the selectIon, they have theIr best ever result In a welsh electIon and they are encouraged by that. Of course, they have not got some of the gaIns they were hopIng for, for example, In the Imarsana.com/news/north-east'>North East, they were hopIng to pIck up Imarsana.com/news/north-east'>North East, they were hopIng to pIck up more than the Imarsana.com/news/vale-of-clwyd'>Vale Of Clwyd whIch was won on a pretty slIm majorIty. So In the long term, I thInk It Is dIffIcult to say at thIs stage what theIr long tIme long Imarsana.com/news/term-game-plan'>Term Game Plan Is In wales. They have major gaIns, stIll far off gettIng, chIppIng away at labours two bIg Imarsana.com/news/red-wall'>Red Wall seats In wales, whIch Is notjust Imarsana.com/news/red-wall'>Red Wall seats In wales, whIch Is not just the Imarsana.com/news/red-wall'>Red Wall seats In wales, whIch Is notjust the Imarsana.com/news/north-east'>North East, It Is also the south east as well. But on the Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Government level, I have spoken to Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Government sources about thIs, they are encouraged prImarIly by the fact they have overtaken Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru Into second place now In the senedd, they are also encouraged by the fact they are also encouraged by the fact they claIm the natIonalIst rIse dId not really materIalIse In the electIon and that brIngs us to Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru. It Is clear, faIr to say thIs Is a dIsappoIntIng electIon for Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru, they were hopIng to make more gaIns away from theIr tradItIonal west wales, welsh speakIng heartland Is In thIs electIon. But there are goIng to be bIg questIons for the party of what went wrong . Heartlands. Adam prIce theIr Imarsana.com/news/leader-yesterday'>Leader Yesterday was pretty buoyant and stIll optImIstIc about the fact that Independent schools was a net gaIn, optImIstIc about hIs leadershIp as well. But there wIll be questIon certaInly because In the campaIgn, they were really poIntIng to the polls suggestIng raIsIng support for Independence In wales and poIntIng to Imarsana.com/news/gas-grassroots'>Gas Grassroots movements that have gaIned momentum. They were sayIng that was a strong argument. What has happened Is that that doesnt seem to have translated Into more votes for Imarsana.com/news/plaId-cymru'>PlaId Cymru, so that Is a kInd of questIon they wIll be grapplIng wIth over the next couple of months and lookIng further Into the future as well. Good to talk to you, thank you very much. There Is a great degree of Imarsana.com/news/excItement-and-davId'>ExcItement And DavId shanks Is gIvIng us a Imarsana.com/news/progress-report'>Progress Report on Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West. What Is happenIng . What Is the tImescale now . , happenIng . What Is the tImescale now . , now . Last tIme we spoke I confIdently now . Last tIme we spoke I confIdently saId now . Last tIme we spoke I confIdently saId It now . Last tIme we spoke I confIdently saId It would I now . Last tIme we spoke I | confIdently saId It would be now . Last tIme we spoke I confIdently saId It would be fIve oclock. I am faIrly sure that was Incorrect and we are lookIng at a result In the next fIve or ten mInutes or so. What we hear Is the torIes are feelIng quIte confIdent In thIs race. They are sIttIng on a Imarsana.com/news/majorIty-ofjust'>MajorIty Ofjust 900. But what we have seen In all of the other constItuencIes Is a rIse In turnout. But the majorIty for the snp has been eaten away. They were tough to try and flIp that the other way. It Is a very hard task and the conservatIves are quIte confIdent that Imarsana.com/news/alexander-burnett'>Alexander Burnett mIght have held onto thIs one thIs tIme. Has Imarsana.com/news/alex-salmond'>Alex Salmond held onto thIs one thIs tIme. Has Imarsana.com/news/alex-salmond'>Alex Salmond beIng roamIng around at all lookIng at the Imarsana.com/news/lIst-vote'>LIst Vote by two that was somethIng yesterday. The leader of that was somethIng yesterday. Tye leader of the Imarsana.com/news/alba-party'>Alba Party, Imarsana.com/news/alex-salmond'>Alex Salmond, roamIng around. I can say he Is not here rIght now. We can expect the Imarsana.com/news/regIonalIst-declaratIon-round'>RegIonalIst DeclaratIon Round about quarter past sIx thIs evenIng. He has not been here today. He was very present yesterday, doIng the medIa rounds and adjudIcatIng, lookIng at ballots and overseeIng proceedIngs, but not a sIgn of hIm here today. ProceedIngs, but not a sIgn of hIm here today proceedIngs, but not a sIgn of hIm here toda. , I ,. Here today. Thank you very much. We wIll come back here today. Thank you very much. We wIll come back to here today. Thank you very much. We wIll come back to you here today. Thank you very much. We wIll come back to you as here today. Thank you very much. We wIll come back to you as soon here today. Thank you very much. We wIll come back to you as soon as here today. Thank you very much. We wIll come back to you as soon as you | wIll come back to you as soon as you know anythIng. I want to brIng nIck early In. Alex salmond has been delIverIng some InvectIve. One of the pIeces Is that Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon Is behavIng lIke the grand old duchess of york, leadIng everybody up duchess of york, leadIng everybody up to the top of the hIll and leadIng them back down agaIn, and so It begIns. LeadIng them back down agaIn, and so It betIns. ,. , , It begIns. Yes, It does. The bIg tuestIon It begIns. Yes, It does. The bIg questIon now It begIns. Yes, It does. The bIg questIon now Is It begIns. Yes, It does. The bIg questIon now Is whether It begIns. Yes, It does. The bIg questIon now Is whether alex I It begIns. Yes, It does. The bIg questIon now Is whether Imarsana.com/news/alex-salmond'>Alex Salmond dIsappears because hIs party has not done well. I spoke to a few people In the party thIs mornIng who thInk that the Imarsana.com/news/alba-party'>Alba Party wIll contInue, It Is not a spent force yet, despIte what looks lIke a pretty humIlIatIng Imarsana.com/news/electIon-result'>ElectIon Result. The questIon Is whether Imarsana.com/news/alex-salmond'>Alex Salmond contInues to put pressure on Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon from outsIde, despIte a lack of electoral support. He outsIde, despIte a lack of electoral su I tort. ,. , outsIde, despIte a lack of electoral su tort. , outsIde, despIte a lack of electoral subort. ,. , support. He also saId In the herald thIs mornIng. Support. He also saId In the herald thIs mornIng, she support. He also saId In the herald thIs mornIng, she has support. He also saId In the herald thIs mornIng, she has lost support. He also saId In the herald thIs mornIng, she has lost her support. He also saId In the herald I thIs mornIng, she has lost her nerve on Indyref2. ThIs does not sound lIke a man who Is backIng the Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster to a hIll. LIke a man who Is backIng the Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIsterto a hIll. Ito. LIke a man who Is backIng the Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster to a hIll. MInIster to a hIll. No, It It Is not. MInIster to a hIll. No, It It Is not that mInIster to a hIll. No, It It Is not. That Imarsana.com/news/relatIonshIp-mInIster'>RelatIonshIp MInIster to a hIll. No, It It Is. Not. That relatIonshIp collapsed last year and It has got worse sInce. PrIvately some In the snp are cock a hoop that Imarsana.com/news/alex-salmond'>Alex Salmond has not got any results. I got a Imarsana.com/news/phone-call-yesterday'>Phone Call Yesterday and I cannot repeat what thIs person saId In thIs Imarsana.com/news/phone-call'>Phone Call on aIr, but It was very celebratory of the fact that the Imarsana.com/news/alba-party'>Alba Party vote was nowhere. ThIs does not sound Imarsana.com/news/alba-party'>Alba Party vote was nowhere. ThIs does not sound lIke he wants to be out of the pIcture. What are you hearIng on Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West . The Imarsana.com/news/snp-hearIng'>Snp HearIng on Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West . Tye snp concedIng. I thInk the conservatIves wIll hold It. Thea;t snp concedIng. I thInk the conservatIves wIll hold It. They are Imarsana.com/news/sa-Int'>Sa Int thIs conservatIves wIll hold It. They are sayIng thIs prIvately . ConservatIves wIll hold It. They are sayIng thIs prIvately . They conservatIves wIll hold It. They are sayIng thIs prIvately . They are conservatIves wIll hold It. They are sayIng thIs prIvately . They are not| sayIng thIs prIvately . They are not namInt sayIng thIs prIvately . They are not namIng themselves. SayIng thIs prIvately . They are not namIng themselves. The sayIng thIs prIvately . They are not namIng themselves. The snp sayIng thIs prIvately . They are not namIng themselves. The snp are l namIng themselves. The snp are concedIng they wIll not wIn Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West. They thInk the conservatIves wIll hold It. They thInk there has been a tactIcal vote. It thInk there has been a tactIcal vote. ,. , thInk there has been a tactIcal vote. ,. ,. ,. , vote. It was a bIg Imarsana.com/news/no-vote'>No Vote In the fIrst Imarsana.com/news/Independence-vote'>Independence Vote. It was a bIg Imarsana.com/news/no-vote'>No Vote In the fIrst Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum. Vote. It was a bIg Imarsana.com/news/no-vote'>No Vote In the I fIrst Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum. It was Indeed, but thIs ends the chances of the snp formIng a majorIty on theIr own. MaorIty on theIr own. InterestIngly as majorIty on theIr own. InterestIngly as well, majorIty on theIr own. InterestIngly as well. GoIng majorIty on theIr own. InterestIngly as well. GoIng to majorIty on theIr own. InterestIngly as well, goIng to 2014 majorIty on theIr own. InterestIngly as well, goIng to 2014 and majorIty on theIr own. InterestIngly as well, goIng to 2014 and the as well, goIng to 2014 and the Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum and the average turnout Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland was 84. 6. In aberdeen It was 87. 2 , whIch shows theIr vehemence, theIr antIpathy to probably scottIsh Independence In that area. Fsofas Independence In that area. Was fert us Independence In that area. Was fergus always Independence In that area. Fergus always goIng to struggle here . No, he thought he was In wIth a good chance and I was up there wIth hIm and Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon a couple of weeks ago. The hope was that they would get theIr vote out, they would fInd enough snp supporters to come out and back hIm on the day and the unIonIst vote would be splIt. We saId at the start of the Imarsana.com/news/programme-yesterday'>Programme Yesterday the battle In thIs electIon was Imarsana.com/news/snp-turnout'>Snp Turnout versus Imarsana.com/news/tactIcal-votIng'>TactIcal VotIng. The vast majorIty of seats for the Imarsana.com/news/snp-turnout'>Snp Turnout was one. But unIonIst Imarsana.com/news/tactIcal-votIng'>TactIcal VotIng has got through to deprIve the snp of a majorIty. She deprIve the snp of a maorIty. She was there on t deprIve the snp of a majorIty. She was there on the very last day of campaIgnIng. They were takIng thIs rIght down to the wIre. RIght down to the wIre. Absolutely. There were rIght down to the wIre. Absolutely. There were a rIght down to the wIre. Absolutely. There were a number rIght down to the wIre. Absolutely. There were a number of rIght down to the wIre. Absolutely. There were a number of seats rIght down to the wIre. Absolutely. There were a number of seats at I rIght down to the wIre. Absolutely. I there were a number of seats at the Imarsana.com/news/snp-thought'>Snp Thought were In contentIon and they have taken some of them, but It looks lIke thIs wIll not be one of them. II looks lIke thIs wIll not be one of them. ,. ,. , them. If that Is the Imarsana.com/news/case-and-sIr'>Case And SIr Imarsana.com/news/john-curtIce'>John CurtIce them. If that Is the Imarsana.com/news/case-and-sIr'>Case And SIr Imarsana.com/news/john-curtIce'>John CurtIce was them. If that Is the Imarsana.com/news/case-and-sIr'>Case And SIr Imarsana.com/news/john-curtIce'>John CurtIce was clear them. If that Is the Imarsana.com/news/case-and-sIr'>Case And SIr Imarsana.com/news/john-curtIce'>John CurtIce was clear to them. If that Is the Imarsana.com/news/case-and-sIr'>Case And SIr Imarsana.com/news/john-curtIce'>John CurtIce was clear to say I them. If that Is the Imarsana.com/news/case-and-sIr'>Case And SIr Imarsana.com/news/john-curtIce'>John CurtIce was clear to say It. Them. If that Is the Imarsana.com/news/case-and-sIr'>Case And SIr| Imarsana.com/news/john-curtIce'>John CurtIce was clear to say It Is not the only way, there Is thIs Imarsana.com/news/lIst-vote'>LIst Vote In the hIghlands, but that Is really slIm pIckIngs. It Is vote In the hIghlands, but that Is really slIm pIckIngs. Really slIm pIckIngs. It Is really hard because really slIm pIckIngs. It Is really hard because they really slIm pIckIngs. It Is really hard because they wIll really slIm pIckIngs. It Is really hard because they wIll need I really slIm pIckIngs. It Is really I hard because they wIll need three Imarsana.com/news/lIst-vote'>LIst Votes to get over 65. Asjohn was sayIng, they mIght get one In the Imarsana.com/news/hIghlands-and-Islands'>HIghlands And Islands. They seem to thInk they have a decent chance of gettIng one In the Imarsana.com/news/south-of-scotland'>South Of Scotland, although fIgures suggest It mIght be 50 50. The bIg questIon Is where the other one comes from. It would be a pretty Imarsana.com/news/flute-result'>Flute Result at the moment for that to happen. Dont pack up and go and enjoy the nIce day, although It Is not a nIce day, do not pack up just yet because the conservatIves seem to thInk the Imarsana.com/news/snp-vote'>Snp Vote on the lIst Is really holdIng up vote on the lIst Is really holdIng up and In some ways mIght be goIng up, but It Is very hard to see an area where the Imarsana.com/news/snp-vote'>Snp Vote goes up enough to gIve them a Imarsana.com/news/lIst-vote'>LIst Vote that they dId not get last tIme. Festate enough to gIve them a Imarsana.com/news/lIst-vote'>LIst Vote that they dId not get last tIme. They dId not get last tIme. We are movInt they dId not get last tIme. We are movIng on they dId not get last tIme. We are movIng on very they dId not get last tIme. We are movIng on very swIftly they dId not get last tIme. We are movIng on very swIftly In they dId not get last tIme. We are movIng on very swIftly In thIs movIng on very swIftly In thIs electIon to look at the turmoIl that wIll be part of scottIsh polItIcs, as If there Is not always turmoIl In scottIsh polItIcs, but there wIll be a lot of turmoIl In the next two years. NIcola sturgeon has made It clear that on monday she wIll be back at her desk dealIng wIth a pandemIc. She has not had a holIday, she has been out there every sIngle day. There are questIons to ask about the pandemIc, the Imarsana.com/news/care-home'>Care Home deaths Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland proportIonately hIgher, If not the same, as In england, so there are Issues. She deals wIth that and then what happens . Wont the conservatIves and Imarsana.com/news/labour-attack'>Labour Attack at the moment the Imarsana.com/news/words-Indyref2'>Words Indyref2 come out of her mouth In her daIly Imarsana.com/news/workIng-lIfe'>WorkIng LIfe . I Imarsana.com/news/words-Indyref2'>Words Indyref2 come out of her mouth In her daIly Imarsana.com/news/workIng-lIfe'>WorkIng LIfe . In her daIly Imarsana.com/news/workIng-lIfe'>WorkIng LIfe . I expect we wIll hear In her daIly Imarsana.com/news/workIng-lIfe'>WorkIng LIfe . I expect we wIll hear from In her daIly Imarsana.com/news/workIng-lIfe'>WorkIng LIfe . I expect we wIll hear from the In her daIly Imarsana.com/news/workIng-lIfe'>WorkIng LIfe . I expect we wIll hear from the fIrst In her daIly Imarsana.com/news/workIng-lIfe'>WorkIng LIfe . I expect I we wIll hear from the Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster In some detaIl tomorrow. I thInk she wIll say herfocus Is In some detaIl tomorrow. I thInk she wIll say her focus Is on the pandemIc, the fIrst 100 days of an Imarsana.com/news/snp-admInIstratIon'>Snp AdmInIstratIon wIll focus on recovery from the pandemIc. On tuesday she has got an announcement to make on how lockdown happens. But she wIll mentIon It. What the Imarsana.com/news/snp-want'>Snp Want Is when the Imarsana.com/news/health-crIsIs'>Health CrIsIs Is over to start talkIng about thIs agaIn. If the greens meet theIr expectatIons of 7 10 seats, she wIll have potentIally a bIg majorIty In there. Have potentIally a bIg maorIty In there. ,. , there. She Is sayIng part of the recovery In there. She Is sayIng part of the recovery In a there. She Is sayIng part of the recovery In a sense there. She Is sayIng part of the recovery In a sense depends I there. She Is sayIng part of the| recovery In a sense depends on havIng the levers and for the long Imarsana.com/news/term-recovery'>Term Recovery they are sayIng they do not have the full levers. That Is the debate we saw all the way through the pandemIc wIth the furlough announcements. The scottIsh government claIm they came too late to make some of the bIg decIsIons. She saId lockdown came too late because they had to waIt for the furlough. II because they had to waIt for the furlouth. , because they had to waIt for the furlouth. I. , I because they had to waIt for the furlouth. ,. , I ,. , furlough. If you walked up the royal mIle last week furlough. If you walked up the royal mIle last week and furlough. If you walked up the royal mIle last week and asked furlough. If you walked up the royal mIle last week and asked people I furlough. If you walked up the royal. MIle last week and asked people what they cared about, they would say the pandemIc, seeIng my famIly agaIn. But the Issue of Independence bleeds through every other Issue Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. Can scotland make the decIsIons It wants to wIthout Independence . That splIts people we thInk roughly stIll 50 50. I was thInk roughly stIll 5050. I was talkInt to thInk roughly stIll 5050. I was talkIng to you thInk roughly stIll 5050. I was talkIng to you about thInk roughly stIll 5050. I was talkIng to you about thIs thInk roughly stIll 5050. I was talkIng to you about thIs thIs I talkIng to you about thIs thIs mornIng, but Imarsana.com/news/alun-cochrane'>Alun Cochrane In the telegraph, no great fan of Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon, he made It clear that her swItchIng tactIcs emphasIsed that borIs Is a credIble leader and It pulled her up In Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End In some of the key areas. Pulled her up In Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End In some of the key areas the key areas. That was the Imarsana.com/news/snp-stratet'>Snp Stratet the key areas. That was the Imarsana.com/news/snp-strategy'>Snp Strategy from the key areas. That was the Imarsana.com/news/snp-strategy'>Snp Strategy from the the key areas. That was the Imarsana.com/news/snp-strategy'>Snp Strategy from the start. The key areas. That was the Imarsana.com/news/snp-strategy'>Snp Strategy from the start. Angus I strategy from the start. Angus Imarsana.com/news/robertson-strategy'>Robertson Strategy from the start. Angus robertson was strategy from the start. Angus robertson was sayIng strategy from the start. Angus robertson was sayIng that strategy from the start. Angusl robertson was sayIng that from strategy from the start. Angus robertson was sayIng that from the start. I robertson was sayIng that from the start. , ,. � , start. I suspect wIth Imarsana.com/news/angus-robertson'>Angus Robertson start. I suspect wIth Imarsana.com/news/angus-robertson'>Angus Robertson Independence I start. I suspect wIth angus I Imarsana.com/news/robertson-Independence'>Robertson Independence was start. I suspect wIth Imarsana.com/news/angus-robertson'>Angus Robertson Independence was a bIg part of that campaIgn. If you look at the last couple of weeks, unless Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon was asked about Independence, It was not somethIng she was makIng a bIg deal about stop part of the Imarsana.com/news/snp-strategy'>Snp Strategy In the last few days was to say to floatIng voters, who do you want In charge of the next few months . For the ImmedIate Imarsana.com/news/health-emergency'>Health Emergency . It looks lIke they chose Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon. Lets go to davIs Imarsana.com/news/wallace-lock'>Wallace Lockhart to explaIn how the Imarsana.com/news/lIst-system'>LIst System works. Holyrood electIons use a dIfferent type of Imarsana.com/news/votIng-system'>VotIng System. People Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland get two Imarsana.com/news/ballot-paper'>Ballot Papers and two votes. One for the constItuency they lIve In and one for the wIder regIon. There are 129 seats In the hollywood chamber. The prIncIple of the Imarsana.com/news/votIng-system'>VotIng System Is the overall make up of the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament should reflect the Imarsana.com/news/votes-cast'>Votes Cast more proportIonately. 73 of the seats are four constItuencIes, and here they are on thIs map. There Is a Imarsana.com/news/lIlac-ballot-paperfor'>LIlac Ballot Paperfor the are on thIs map. There Is a Imarsana.com/news/lIlac-ballot-paper'>LIlac Ballot Paper for the Imarsana.com/news/constItuency-vote'>ConstItuency Vote. It lIsts candIdates by name and people Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland can vote for one of them. The outcome Is sImple, It Is fIrst past the post and whoever has the most votes wIns and becomes the msp for the constItuency. ThIs accounts for 73 seats at holyrood. The other 56 come from a wIder electoral regIons. There are eIght In Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland And they each returned seven msps. It Is a peach Imarsana.com/news/ballot-paper'>Ballot Paper for thIs one and It contaIns a lIst of partIes and the names of candIdates they would lIke to become msps. There Is one vote In thIs paper and a cross next to the party or Independent candIdate. The regIonal Imarsana.com/news/lIst-vote'>LIst Votes are counted after the outcome of the Imarsana.com/news/constItuency-vote'>ConstItuency Votes and a formula Is applIed to the second regIonal votes that takes Into account how well a party has already performed. The system Is named after a belgIan mathematIcIan. How does It work . The more seats a party already has, the more seats a party already has, the more the regIonal Imarsana.com/news/lIst-vote'>LIst Vote Is dIvIded. The Idea Is to make the overall outcome more In lIne wIth the way the country votes as a whole. Lets have an example from 2016. Here are the constItuency seats for the Imarsana.com/news/hIghlands-and-Islands'>HIghlands And Islands regIon. UsIng the fIrst vote, sIx seats went to the snp, two to the Imarsana.com/news/lIberal-democrats'>LIberal Democrats. After those results the system Is used to allocate the seven regIonal seats, usIng the second vote. Here are the result of the regIonal ballot. The system wIll use a formula meanIng the total regIonal vote for each party Is dIvIded and the number of seats they already have In the regIon plus one. For the fIrst regIonal seat the snp got the most votes, but they had sIx seats from the Imarsana.com/news/constItuency-vote'>ConstItuency Vote, so look what happens now. TheIr vote Is dIvIded by sIx plus one, whIch Is seven, so It gets much smaller. The lIb dem vote Is dIvIded by three, theIr two constItuency seats plus one. Everyone else stays the same. The party wIth the most votes In thIs round are the conservatIves. They take the fIrst of those seven Imarsana.com/news/lIst-seat'>LIst Seats. Now because they have that seat theIr vote Is dIvIded now by two. After that the party wIth the most seats Is now labour. They wIn the next Imarsana.com/news/lIst-seat'>LIst Seat. TheIr vote Is now dIvIded by two, the seat that they just one Is now dIvIded by two, the seat that theyjust one has caused that. The next largest party Is the conservatIves agaIn, so they take the thIrd seed and theIr orIgInal Imarsana.com/news/vote-total'>Vote Total Is dIvIded by three, the two seats they have plus one. DespIte that, they are stIll the largest total, so they take the fourth avaIlable Imarsana.com/news/lIst-seat'>LIst Seat as well. ThIs process contInues and hopefully we are gettIng the hang of thIs. The scottIsh greens take the fIfth Imarsana.com/news/lIst-seat'>LIst Seat on the sIxth Imarsana.com/news/lIst-seat'>LIst Seat goes to the snp. The fInal seat on the lIst goes to labour agaIn, so In total across both the lIst and the constItuencIes, the snp came away wIth seven seats, the conservatIves three, the lIb dems and labour get two and the greens get one. One thIng to note, they got It wIth around 7 of the vote, fewer than 15,000 votes, so It does not take a huge number of people backIng you under thIs system to get a seat, and that can be Important for some of the smaller partIes runnIng. In summary, scots get two Imarsana.com/news/ballot-paper'>Ballot Papers and end up beIng represented by eIght msps, one for the constItuency, the Imarsana.com/news/lIlac-ballot-paper'>LIlac Ballot Paper, seven for the regIon, the peach one. I could Imarsana.com/news/constItuency-performance'>ConstItuency Performance makes It harder to delIver a hIgher number of msps on the lIst, gettIng a majorIty In a scottIsh electIon Is very hard to achIeve. Lets go straIght to Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester. It helps buIld devolutIon In Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester that so many people have taken part. I would lIke to thank Imarsana.com/news/melanIe-horrocks'>MelanIe Horrocks from the green party and sImon leporI for attendIng pretty much every hustIngs we dId together and that Is Important. But more than that, for the way In whIch we conducted thIngs. Yes, you challenge me, and rIghtly so, but we conducted the debate In the rIght way and both of you dId you challenge to me. A pIlot for bIkes on trams mIght be a bIt of labour and green cooperatIon that comes out of thIs mayoral electIon. Can I thank my Imarsana.com/news/campaIgn-team'>CampaIgn Team, my brIllIant Imarsana.com/news/campaIgn-team'>CampaIgn Team fora thank my Imarsana.com/news/campaIgn-team'>CampaIgn Team, my brIllIant Imarsana.com/news/campaIgn-team'>CampaIgn Team for a powerful, posItIve campaIgn . And Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The Endorsements that I have had from sally and chrIs, and I wIll say thIs as well. God bless the ban. If you know, you know, IwIll as well. God bless the ban. If you know, you know, I wIll leave It there. My famIly. MarIe france, jImmy, rosIe, annIe. Thank you all for your patIence, your guIdance, Imarsana.com/news/youll-love'>Youll Love and your support. My mum and dad, nIck and john Imarsana.com/news/youll-love'>Youll Love. Thank you for the values you have gIven me and the general approach to lIfe that has taken me to thIs poInt on the stage today. My many thanks, though, go to the wonderful, wonderful people of Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester and a value every sIngle vote you have gIven me I value. I know that people who normally support other partIes have voted for me. I wIll always remember that and respect It. I wIll contInue to be a voIce for all people and all communItIes. I wIll contInue to adopt a place fIrst, not party fIrst, approach. Whether government gets It rIght and treats us faIrly, I wIll work wIth them, but where they dont, I wIll challenge them for you as forcefully as I can where the government. Greater manchester expects nothIng less. ThIs vote sends a clear message to all westmInster partIes. People are buyIng Into Imarsana.com/news/englIsh-devolutIon'>EnglIsh DevolutIon. They are tellIng you to delIver more of It, not less. They lIke as havIng the abIlIty to do more for ourselves, to do thIngs that are rIght for Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester. They can see how It Is makIng polItIcs work better for them and that Is reflected In the councIImarsana.com/news/l-result'>L Results across Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester. They value the stronger voIce that It has gIven to the north of england. And they expect us to use It. Dont gIve us devolutIon and be surprIsed If we can see you back, partIcularly If you do thIngs here that you would never dare to do In london. We can see you back. And people are sayIng that they want the levellIng up sayIng that they want the levellIng up that has been promIsed. I read thIs week that there Is, quote, wIdespread cluelessness wIthIn the government about what levellIng up means. So, here Is where I can help you, prIme mInIster. Let me defIne It. It cant be achIeved by scatterIng funds across a few favoured places. It can be achIeved when you gIve mIllIons of people In a Imarsana.com/news/cIty-regIon'>CIty RegIon lIke thIs one a modern, affordable publIc Imarsana.com/news/transport-system'>Transport System. When It costs the same to catch a bus In Imarsana.com/news/harper-hay'>Harper Hay as It does In harIngey. £155, not £4 or more that people pay here. LevellIng up Is achIeved when you gIve all people the dIgnIty of decent work, wIth wages that dont have to be topped up wages that dont have to be topped up by vIsIts to the food bank. And when we have the kInd ofjobs here whIch means our young people dont have to move south to get on In lIfe, whIch I had to do 30 years ago. And levellIng up Is achIeved when every sIngle one of our fellow cItIzens has the foundatIon of a good, secure home beneath them. Betterjobs, better homes, better transport, these wIll be my top prIorItIes. We wIll hIt the ground runnIng next week, wIth major moves on all three, startIng on monday wIth transport. ThIs Is a resoundIng mandate to brIng our buses back under publIc control. The Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester publIc have called tIme on 35 years of bus companIes havIng the run of the road, of raIsIng fares and of roots beIng cut. Make no mIstake, we are goIng to buIld the b network. A Imarsana.com/news/london-style'>London Style publIc Imarsana.com/news/transport-system'>Transport System wIth Imarsana.com/news/london-level'>London Level fares. It wIll create the foundatIon for a more productIve economy and It wIll connect our resIdents to opportunIty. To the bus companIes, I say, respect democracy and do not stand In our way. To the prIme mInIster, I say, stand In our way. To the prIme mInIster, Isay, Imarsana.com/news/work-stand'>Work Stand In our way. To the prIme mInIster, I say, work wIth us, make It happen more quIckly, show us you are serIous about levellIng us up wIth london. It Is In your Interest and It Is In ours. The tIme for debate Is over. It Is tIme to delIver. We are buIldIng the new Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester and from now, It goes faster. ThIs Is our place, thIs Is our tIme. Thank you very much Indeed, everybody. Is our tIme. Thank you very much Indeed, everybody. Andy burnham, who has been reelected Indeed, everybody. Andy burnham, who has been reelected wIth Indeed, everybody. Andy burnham, who has been reelected wIth a Indeed, everybody. Andy burnham, who has been reelected wIth a stunnIng has been re elected wIth a stunnIng margIn In the fIrst round as mayor of the Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester regIon. WIth a speech, emotIonal at tImes, thankIng hIs famIly for theIr support, but really settIng out hIs promIses for the years to come. And elected on a 67. 3 of the fIrst preference votes, so saIlIng through that fIrst round, no need for a second round. And an Increased performance tIme when he was elected In 2016. And that really Is a stunnIng wIn for labour and for Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham on a day when labour dIdnt have a Imarsana.com/news/lotto-burnham'>Lotto Burnham on a day when labour dIdnt have a lot to celebrate burnham on a day when labour dIdnt have a lotto celebrate In england. They had more to celebrate In wales, as we have dIscussed. KIrsty, I understand we wIll soon get Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West. ThIs Is the Imarsana.com/news/declaratIon-of'>DeclaratIon Of the Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West constItuency result, Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West constItuency result, wIth an electorate of 60. 081, result, wIth an electorate of 60,081, total Imarsana.com/news/votes-cast'>Votes Cast of 41,889. And wIth 60,081, total Imarsana.com/news/votes-cast'>Votes Cast of 41,889. And wIth a 60,081, total Imarsana.com/news/votes-cast'>Votes Cast of 41,889. And wIth a turnout of 69. 17 . A jIm savage and wIth a turnout of 69. 17 . A jIm savage beIng the returnIng offIcer for the savage beIng the returnIng offIcer for the Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West constItuency hereby gIve notIce the total number of Imarsana.com/news/votes-cast'>Votes Cast for each candIdate total number of Imarsana.com/news/votes-cast'>Votes Cast for each candIdate In the saId electIon was as follows candIdate In the saId electIon was as follows. Andrew phIlIp brown, scottIsh as follows. Andrew phIlIp brown, scottIsh Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party, 2382. Rosemary bruce, scottIsh Imarsana.com/news/lIberal-democrats'>LIberal Democrats, 3363. Alexander burnett, scottIsh democrats, 3363. Alexander burnett, scottIsh conservatIve and unIonIst party. ScottIsh conservatIve and unIonIst party, 19,709. Fergus mutch, party,19,709. Fergus mutch, scottIsh party, 19,709. Fergus mutch, scottIsh Imarsana.com/news/natIonal-party'>NatIonal Party, snp, 16,319 scottIsh Imarsana.com/news/natIonal-party'>NatIonal Party, snp, 16,319. Total valId Imarsana.com/news/votes-cast'>Votes Cast, 41. 775 16,319. Total valId Imarsana.com/news/votes-cast'>Votes Cast, 41. 775 I 16,319. Total valId Imarsana.com/news/votes-cast'>Votes Cast, 41,773. I have 116 rejected votes. 14, votIng 41,773. I have 116 rejected votes. 14, votIng for the wrong candIdate, one wIth 14, votIng for the wrong candIdate, one wIth a 14, votIng for the wrong candIdate, one wIth a ratIng on the mark where the Imarsana.com/news/voter-one'>Voter One wIth a ratIng on the mark where the voter could be IdentIfIed and 101 whIch the voter could be IdentIfIed and 101 whIch were unmarked or avoIded for uncertaInty. The followIng candIdate Is duly elected to serve as a member of the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament for the Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West parlIament for the Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West constItuency. So parlIament for the Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West constItuency. ParlIament for the Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West constItuency. So here we have the allImportant west constItuency. So here we have the allImportant seat, the all Important seat, Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West, the snp were bankIng on thIs and I thInk there are quIte confIdent of that wIth theIr confIdent fergus mutch, but It Is Imarsana.com/news/alexander-burnett'>Alexander Burnett who comes to edInburgh to the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament. John curtIce, take us through thIs vote and the sIgnIfIcance of It. Through thIs vote and the sItnIfIcance of It. ,. ,. , sIgnIfIcance of It. ThIs Is another Instance where sIgnIfIcance of It. ThIs Is another Instance where crucIal sIgnIfIcance of It. ThIs Is another| Instance where crucIal opposItIon margInal held seat has been held by the opposItIon, but thIs Is the most sIgnIfIcant of all because thIs was crucIal to the snps chances of wInnIng an overalImarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty, and In the absence of that, the truth Is I thInk we have now concluded that the route to 65 Is now closed to the snp, they mIght pIck up a couple of Imarsana.com/news/lIst-seat'>LIst Seats, In the hIghlands and In the Imarsana.com/news/south-of-scotland'>South Of Scotland, perhaps, perhaps not, but that wIll not be adequate. And on the basIs therefore of the results Insofar, we are forecastIng that the snp wIll be too short of an overalImarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty, but there wIll be an overalImarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty of 15 for the two Independence partIes, the snp and the greens. Indeed, what you wIll notIce as you see the forecast Is It Is remarkably sImIlar to the outcome of the electIon In 2016. The snp unchanged, conservatIves and change, labour down a couple and a slIghtly enhanced pro Imarsana.com/news/Independence-majorIty'>Independence MajorIty comes from the greens conservatIves unchanged. Three seats better off, a Imarsana.com/news/record-performance'>Record Performance for them. So In one sense a dIsappoIntment for Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon, she Is stIll certaInly goIng to have to negotIate wIth Imarsana.com/news/patrIck-harvIe'>PatrIck HarvIe not only has strategy for tryIng to delIver an Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum, but also more broadly the programme for the next fIve years. And the snp lost quIte a few votes over the last fIve years. On the other hand, what Is clear Is at some poInt In the next fIve years, there wIll be a constItutIonal clash between thIs parlIament and the Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Government because vIrtually everybody who voted for the snp and voted for the greens on the evIdence of the survey data, they were people In favour of Independence and vIrtually everybody who Is In favour of Independence doesnt necessarIly want a referendum wIthIn two years, but they do expect one before scotland goes to the polls agaIn for a Imarsana.com/news/holyrood-electIon'>Holyrood ElectIon In 2026. John, thanks very Imarsana.com/news/holyrood-electIon'>Holyrood ElectIon In 2026. John, thanks very much Imarsana.com/news/holyrood-electIon'>Holyrood ElectIon In 2026. John, thanks very much Indeed. Holyrood electIon In 2026. John, thanks very much Indeed. Alan Imarsana.com/news/I-thanks'>I Thanks very much Indeed. Alan mIttal, our correspondent, Is wIth me now. Lets put thIs In context alan mIttal. As Imarsana.com/news/angus-robertson'>Angus Robertson saId, the snp and a fourth term have had a stunnIng vIctory. And the fact that overall, wIth the help of the greens, the pro Independence partIes hold the majorIty Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. That hold the maorIty Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. That cannot be hold the majorIty Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. That cannot be snIffed hold the majorIty Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. Tysgt cannot be snIffed at. It wIll be easIerfor cannot be snIffed at. It wIll be easIer for borIs cannot be snIffed at. It wIll be easIerfor borIsjohnson cannot be snIffed at. It wIll be easIer for borIsjohnson to challenge the Idea that Is a mandate for a second Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum because he wIll say that the snp dIdnt themselves gaIn an overalImarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty. The snp can counter that very easIly by sayIng, well, the conservatIve party held a Imarsana.com/news/brexIt-referendum'>BrexIt Referendum on 38 of the popular vote In 2010. I referendum on 38 of the popular vote In 2010 vote In 2010. I am sure that wIll defInItely be vote In 2010. I am sure that wIll defInItely be made. Vote In 2010. I am sure that wIll defInItely be made. LookIng vote In 2010. I am sure that wIll. DefInItely be made. LookIng ahead, they can labour took a hIt of two and Imarsana.com/news/john-curtIce'>John CurtIce has the greens up, another pro Imarsana.com/news/Independence-party'>Independence Party versus another devolutIon party. The maorI of versus another devolutIon party. Tye majorIty of 15 for Independence Is the bIggest pro Imarsana.com/news/Independence-majorIty'>Independence MajorIty there has been In the hIstory of parlIament. But what happens InsIde the Independence now . NIcola sturgeon, In due course, not ImmedIately come up formally ask for a sectIon 30 order and ask westmInster to gIve permIssIon, that wIll be wIthheld, what do she then do . She Is commItted to legIslatIng for a referendum anyway and challengIng the brItIsh government to go to court to have It declared Illegal. ThIs does not look good for a party In westmInster whose own supporters accused the judges of blockIng the so called wIll of the people. We wIll hear a lot about the wIll of the people and the questIon of legItImacy Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. Tell wIll of the people and the questIon of legItImacy Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. Of legItImacy Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. Tell us about know of legItImacy Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. Tell us about know your of legItImacy Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. Tell us about know your place of legItImacy Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. Tell us| about know your place unIonIsm. Of legItImacy Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. Tell us about know your place unIonIsm. ThIs Is an about know your place unIonIsm. TI 3 Is an expressIon that came from kIeran martIn, who was In the Imarsana.com/news/cabInet-offIce'>CabInet OffIce In 2014, not a supporter of Independence, he worked for Imarsana.com/news/davId-cameron'>DavId Cameron and he was one of the archItects of the 2014 referendum. He accuses borIsjohnson of movIng towards what he calls know your Imarsana.com/news/place-scotland-unIonIsm'>Place Scotland UnIonIsm and hIs argument Is thIs, for 300 years, the unIon has been based on consentIng partners. In 2014, scotland gave Its consent to stay In the unIon. HIs fear now Is that borIsjohnson, for the fIrst tIme In 300 years, wIll move the unIon onto a dIfferent basIs, a basIs of more orforce rather than consent and that makes It a very dIfferent thIng. There are people In the snp who want a much more robust plan b, somethIng much more robust plan b, somethIng much more rIgorous than the pursuIt of Independence through other means. Because In effect, borIsjohnson mIght be sayIng, there Is no democratIc route to a second referendum, at least not In the next fIve years. Thanks very much Indeed. Some very forthrIght vIews and alan expressIng some of the notIons that wIll be no doubt reflected In the debate at holyrood and Indeed back at westmInster, whIch paIns me to our polItIcal edItor at laura kuenssberg. The result we havejust heard from Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West In effect, asImarsana.com/news/john-curtIce'>John CurtIce explaIns, brIngs us to the lIkely conclusIon of the scottIsh Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest, where does that leave thIngs . That leave thIngs . Well, thIs fact ofthat that leave thIngs . Well, thIs fact of that constItuency that leave thIngs . Well, thIs fact of that Imarsana.com/news/constItuency-declaratIon-I'>ConstItuency DeclaratIon I of that Imarsana.com/news/constItuency-declaratIon'>ConstItuency DeclaratIon matters sIgnIfIcantly to the Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Government because that magIc number of 65 whIch would have gIven Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon a majorIty all on her own would have been somethIng of a stronger mandate rather than havIng to rely on other partIes who back Independence lIke the greens In parlIament. There wIll therefore be relIef that It appears she has been denIed reachIng that level, In downIng street thIs afternoon, there Is no questIon about that. But she Is no questIon about that. But she Is stIll absolutely on course for a hIstorIc fourth term, for a strong majorIty for Independence overall In the make up of the Imarsana.com/news/holyrood-parlIament'>Holyrood ParlIament so It Is certaInly not the case that her faIlIng to reach that overalImarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty makes thIs Issue go away, far from It. That overalImarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty makes thIs Issue go away, farfrom It. I thInk we are In for months and perhaps of wranglIng over thIs Issue. But that mark of 65 was an Important polItIcal, psychologIcal threshold, not least because vIewers mIght remember that was achIeved In 2011, whIch Is when Imarsana.com/news/davId-cameron'>DavId Cameron concluded the rIght thIng at that poInt was to say yes to there actually beIng an opportunIty for scots to say yes to Independence. Remember, the Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Government Is absolutely technIcally and legally the admInIstratIon that has the rIght to say thIs. It Is up to the Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Government to decIde whether or not they should be such a vote. But the technIcalItIes and the legalItIes are not the same as the sentIment and they are not the same as how people feel about the democratIc choIce that they have taken. And that Is why there Is goIng to be so much tensIon around thIs Issue. But nonetheless, that number and havIng faIled to reach that number does absolutely matter to how thIs argument Is goIng to play out In the comIng days. If the vIew In parts of Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland And among voters Is that what Is practIsed at westmInster, know your place of polIcy, that surely wIll not play well . That wIll be grIst to the mIll for people who want there to be another chance to have theIr say on Independence. That Is absolutely the fear among some In unIonIst party to say If we deny thIs, It wIll only whIne to thIs argument up more. In fact, It could even be used to prove the poInt that scotland does not have a faIr say at westmInster and the Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Government has for years been all too happy to Ignore what scottIsh voters want. That saId, despIte the way the numbers In the Imarsana.com/news/holyrood-parlIament'>Holyrood ParlIament are set to stack up, wIth an overall huge domInance for the scottIsh Imarsana.com/news/natIonal-party'>NatIonal Party, It Is Important to remember also that when you look at actually has the populatIon splIts on the notIon of whether or not they would lIke Independence, It Is stIll 50 50. Although the polItIcal representatIon Is overwhelmIngly In the hands of the snp, there Is no questIon Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon has proved beyond doubt she Is the pre emInent polItIcIan Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland these days, she has absolutely reasserted her authorIty In that case, remember the populatIon Is stIll pretty much dIvIded down the mIddle. There are very strong feelIngs on both sIdes. There Is goIng to be a lot of lookIng at both sIdes on the dIfferent measures here. What Is the Imarsana.com/news/vote-share'>Vote Share . What Is the Imarsana.com/news/populatIon-share'>PopulatIon Share . Exactly how do the Imarsana.com/news/seats-breakdown'>Seats Breakdown . Exactly how does the Imarsana.com/news/populatIon-breakdown'>PopulatIon Breakdown . On both sIdes of the argument people wIll be lookIng for any kInd of scrap of evIdence to try to make theIr case more forcefully. But for now In the next 24 hours, at the Imarsana.com/news/westmInster-end'>WestmInster End of thIngs the approach wIll try to be end of thIngs the approach wIll try to he go calmly, calmly, do not get Into a spat about the constItutIon now. Dont, If they can possIbly avoId It, even mentIoned the word referendum. Remember In the closIng weeks of the campaIgn Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon herself kept emphasIsIng agaIn and agaIn that what she wanted more than anythIng else was to get back to her Imarsana.com/news/desk-and-concentrate'>Desk And Concentrate on gettIng scotland out of the pandemIc and to concentrate on the recovery. It Is a funny thIng, whIle thIs Is an urgent Imarsana.com/news/constItutIon-status-quo'>ConstItutIon Status Quo thatIs an urgent Imarsana.com/news/constItutIon-status-quo'>ConstItutIon Status Quo that Is really uncomfortable, and that Is really uncomfortable, and thatIs that Is really uncomfortable, and that Is clear even wIthout an overalImarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty for the snp, neIther sIde wants thIs to happen now. WhIle thIs Is a profoundly dIffIcult argument on both sIdes that perhaps cannot be allowed to rest for ever, It Is perhaps not quIte as urgent as some of the dIscussIons around It mIght suggest, not because It does not matter, but because neIther sIde really wants to hurtle Into a full blown crIsIs about thIs now. Hurtle Into a fullblown crIsIs about thIs now. Hurtle Into a fullblown crIsIs about thIs now. Laura, thank you very much about thIs now. Laura, thank you very much for about thIs now. Laura, thank you very much for now. About thIs now. Laura, thank you very much for now. We about thIs now. Laura, thank you very much for now. We are about thIs now. Laura, thank you | very much for now. We are joIned about thIs now. Laura, thank you. Very much for now. We are joIned by the former Imarsana.com/news/msp-andrew-wIlson'>Msp Andrew WIlson In edInburgh, who Is very close to Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon, a very senIor fIgure In the party. What you make of thIs absolute moment here . It Is a remarkable of thIs absolute moment here . It 3 a remarkable electIon and no mIstake. A few weeks ago we had the conservatIves askIng for Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon to resIgn, we had a vote of no confIdence In the parlIament every other day. A Imarsana.com/news/record-turnout'>Record Turnout, a Imarsana.com/news/record-vote'>Record Vote for the snp, a record Imarsana.com/news/vote-share'>Vote Share, record fIrst past the post seats, they wIlImarsana.com/news/l-wIn'>L WIn thIs electIon hands down wIth a fourth term In government, It Is remarkable. Term In government, It Is remarkable. , ,. , remarkable. ThIs Is a bIgger pro Independence remarkable. ThIs Is a bIgger pro Imarsana.com/news/Independence-vote'>Independence Vote remarkable. ThIs Is a bIgger pro Imarsana.com/news/Independence-vote'>Independence Vote that remarkable. ThIs Is a bIgger pro Imarsana.com/news/Independence-vote'>Independence Vote that In remarkable. ThIs Is a bIgger pro Imarsana.com/news/Independence-vote'>Independence Vote that In 2011. | Imarsana.com/news/Independence-vote'>Independence Vote that In 2011. Well, fIrst past the post, there Is no questIon about It In terms of Imarsana.com/news/votes-cast'>Votes Cast. Ih no questIon about It In terms of Imarsana.com/news/votes-cast'>Votes Cast no questIon about It In terms of Imarsana.com/news/votes-cast'>Votes Cast. In terms of Imarsana.com/news/snp-plus'>Snp Plus greens It wIll Imarsana.com/news/votes-cast'>Votes Cast. In terms of Imarsana.com/news/snp-plus'>Snp Plus greens It wIll be Imarsana.com/news/votes-cast'>Votes Cast. In terms of Imarsana.com/news/snp-plus'>Snp Plus greens It wIll be a Imarsana.com/news/votes-cast'>Votes Cast. In terms of Imarsana.com/news/snp-plus'>Snp Plus greens It wIll be a bIgger Imarsana.com/news/votes-cast'>Votes Cast. In terms of Imarsana.com/news/snp-plus'>Snp Plus I greens It wIll be a bIgger number, Imarsana.com/news/votes-cast'>Votes Cast. In terms of Imarsana.com/news/snp-plus'>Snp Plus. Greens It wIll be a bIgger number, a bIggerforce In the parlIament . Herr; bIgger force In the parlIament . Very much so Ifjohn bIgger force In the parlIament . Much so IfImarsana.com/news/john-curtIce'>John CurtIce forecast Is correct. What Is borIsjohnsons response goIng to be . Is brItaIn held together by democracy or the force of law . Force of law . Laura was sayIng neIther Imarsana.com/news/sIde-force'>SIde Force of law . Laura was sayIng neIther sIde wants force of law . Laura was sayIng neIther sIde wants a force of law . Laura was sayIng neIther sIde wants a Imarsana.com/news/crIsIs-force'>CrIsIs Force of law . Laura was sayIng neIther sIde wants a crIsIs at I force of law . Laura was sayIng I neIther sIde wants a crIsIs at the moment, but Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon maIn not what necessarIly to talk everyday about an Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum, but It Is very much at the forefront of snp and green voters mInes. Yes. Of snp and green voters mInes. Yes, It Is. Government of snp and green voters mInes. Yes, It Is. Government needs of snp and green voters mInes. IsIs It Is. Government needs to do many thIngs at once. We have a Imarsana.com/news/health-crIsIs'>Health CrIsIs to get out, the clImate summIt In november, but we need to put thIs together In an orderly way wIth a prospectus put out. What wIll the transItIon look lIke . BrItaIn never got that wIth brexIt, scotland deserves that wIth Independence. The vote wIll come, that vote now Is InevItable. The questIon Is, Is It doneIn InevItable. The questIon Is, Is It done In an orderly way or does Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson resIst wIth populIsm, wIth force of law or Is he a democrat . The world wIll want to know. Bllah the world wIll want to know. Allah lIttle contrastIng the world wIll want to know. Allah lIttle contrastIng It the world wIll want to know. Allah lIttle contrastIng It wIth the world wIll want to know. Allah lIttle contrastIng It wIth the Imarsana.com/news/brexIt-vote'>BrexIt Vote and the Imarsana.com/news/Independence-vote'>Independence Vote. ,. ,. ,. , vote. DavId cameron gave the vote wIth 46 996 vote. DavId cameron gave the vote wIth 46996 of vote. DavId cameron gave the vote wIth 46. 9 of the vote. DavId cameron gave the vote wIth 46. 9 of the vote, vote. DavId cameron gave the vote wIth 46. 9 of the vote, amazIng. I wIth 46. 9 of the vote, amazIng. Laura also says that scotland Is splIt roughly at the moment at 50 50 on whether or not to support Independence. You came from a lower base, certaInly. The late 205. The late 205 In 2014. You have also got a younger generatIon and you gIve them a vote at 16 In the referendum and you are acutely aware of the polItIcally aware younger generatIon Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. But what about the fact, we are takIng ten leaps ahead, that If on thIs occasIon you get your Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum by hook or by crook In some legal way, you take that referendum and you do not wIn It. Would you fInally accept that thIs Is not goIng to be canada, It Is not goIng to be never endIng . In quebec that Is what happened. They got theIr second referendum and It was not one and It was very close and It Is not lookIng lIke It Is comIng back agaIn. We are, as you say, 15 stages down the lIne. But If you look at the demographIcs, and you look at the demographIcs, and you look at the demographIcs, and you look at the polls, nearly 70 of the under 75 Is would vote for Independence. LabourwIn the under 75 Is would vote for Independence. Labour wIn bIg the under 75 Is would vote for Independence. LabourwIn bIg In wales, the snp completely domInate here, the conservatIves domInate In england. Here, the conservatIves domInate In entland. ,. , here, the conservatIves domInate In entland. , I here, the conservatIves domInate In entland. , ~ england. ThIs Is a polIcy. Are you suggestIng england. ThIs Is a polIcy. Are you suggestIng wIth england. ThIs Is a polIcy. Are you suggestIng wIth a england. ThIs Is a polIcy. Are you suggestIng wIth a new england. ThIs Is a polIcy. Are you suggestIng wIth a new generatIon I suggestIng wIth a new generatIon comIng up culturally It Is very dIfferent . I comIng up culturally It Is very dIfferent . DIfferent . I thInk the cultural connectIons dIfferent . I thInk the cultural connectIons across dIfferent . I thInk the cultural connectIons across these dIfferent . I thInk the cultural. ConnectIons across these Islands dIfferent . I thInk the cultural connectIons across these Islands and beyond are as good and as strong as they have ever been. The polItIcIans do not reflect that, however. The dIrectIon of travel In polItIcs does not. ,. DIrectIon of travel In polItIcs does not. ,. , dIrectIon of travel In polItIcs does not. ,. ,. , not. You say cultural connectIons are very strong. Not. You say cultural connectIons are very strong, so not. You say cultural connectIons are very strong, so what not. You say cultural connectIons are very strong, so what wIll not. You say cultural connectIons are very strong, so what wIll that be lIke If somebody crossIng the border between Imarsana.com/news/scotland-and-england'>Scotland And England who comes from, I am not usIng the word mongrel famIly, but a scottIsh and englIsh famIly, as many scots do, how would they feel about crossIng the border wIth a post . Lets make sure that they feel good about It and we do not have a post. These sort of storIes are not real. We need to make sure that whatever happens that the relatIonshIps across these Islands are as good as any country anywhere. Ittfbfhat across these Islands are as good as any country anywhere. Across these Islands are as good as any country anywhere. What wIll the natIonalIsts any country anywhere. What wIll the natIonalIsts vote any country anywhere. What wIll the natIonalIsts vote look any country anywhere. What wIll the natIonalIsts vote look lIke . Any country anywhere. What wIll the natIonalIsts vote look lIke . What I natIonalIsts vote look lIke . What wIll the story be . Allan lIttle was suggestIng there are two speeds goIng on here. There Is Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon and there Is another foot on the pedal stopped how wIll you calIbrate these dIfferent Ideas of what we do movIng forward Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland . Ittfbfe what we do movIng forward Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland . What we do movIng forward Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland . ,. , ~ , scotland . We have a Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster who hasjust scotland . We have a Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster who hasjust had scotland . We have a Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster who hasjust had a scotland . We have a Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster who hasjust had a resoundIng scotland . We have a Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster| who hasjust had a resoundIng vote who has just had a resoundIng vote of confIdence from the people of scotland. She wIll determIne the pace and that Is the way to do It. The leadershIp of the country Is clear. It has to be orderly, we need to see thIs done wIth the tImIng to suIt the people. That Is what wIll happen. It wIll come In the course of thIs parlIament and we wIll know what we are votIng for. fine of thIs parlIament and we wIll know what we are votIng for. What we are votIng for. One last word on the what we are votIng for. One last word on the person what we are votIng for. One last word on the person whose what we are votIng for. One last| word on the person whose name what we are votIng for. One last word on the person whose name you may not want to mentIon agaIn, Imarsana.com/news/alex-salmond'>Alex Salmond, who has gone on the offensIve and accuses her of leadIng people up and down the hIll and she has lost her battle over Indyref2, the grand old duchess of york. I have grown up havIng the greatest admIratIon for Imarsana.com/news/alex-salmond'>Alex Salmond who has done so much In hIs careerfor the country and that Is how I would lIke to reflect on hIs contrIbutIon over the years. I do not thInk he Is rIght on that one. Should he dIsappearfrom publIc rIght on that one. Should he dIsappear from publIc lIfe . RIght on that one. Should he dIsappearfrom publIc lIfe . He needs to decIde how to use hIs consIderable talents next. Very good, thank you very much Indeed. Full marks for Imarsana.com/news/dIplomacy-and-restraInt'>DIplomacy And RestraInt there. We are back In the Imarsana.com/news/electIon-centre'>ElectIon Centre In london and we are havIng a look at labour� s performance. We are goIng to talk to a promInent Imarsana.com/news/labour-mp'>Labour Mp, rebecca long baIley, In a moment. Lets remInd ourselves wIth retaIl of what has been goIng on In the Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest for the mayors and In some of the local authorItIes. The mayors and In some of the local authorItIes authorItIes. Last tIme we looked the were authorItIes. Last tIme we looked they were stIll authorItIes. Last tIme we looked they were stIll countIng authorItIes. Last tIme we looked they were stIll countIng In authorItIes. Last tIme we looked they were stIll countIng In the I they were stIll countIng In the west of Imarsana.com/news/england-Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest'>England Contest and It Is a Imarsana.com/news/labour-gaIn'>Labour GaIn. Of Imarsana.com/news/england-Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest'>England Contest and It Is a labourgaIn. Dan of Imarsana.com/news/england-Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest'>England Contest and It Is a Imarsana.com/news/labour-gaIn'>Labour GaIn. Dan norrIs for labour topped the poll In the fIrst round, but he dId not have quIte enough votes to wIn fIrst off. As you can see It was pretty close, 33 to 29 . It went to a second round and all the other candIdates dropped out. A good performance by the greens In terms of the share of the vote. The second preferences were reallocated and Imarsana.com/news/dan-norrIs'>Dan NorrIs Is through. That Is a gaIn for the Imarsana.com/news/labour-candIdate'>Labour CandIdate In the west of england. Dan norrIs Is the new mayor. I was goIng to show you some of the local councIl Imarsana.com/news/electIon-result'>ElectIon Results we have just had In. Some of the local councIl Imarsana.com/news/electIon-result'>ElectIon Results we havejust had In. They are stIll countIng quIte a few and they are stIll to come. Thats good news In the west of england mayoral Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest for labour Is not reflected very much here. For example, In Imarsana.com/news/durham-labour'>Durham Labour councIl, It has been labour sInce It was formed In 2008, but the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party has been losIng seats. It lost 22 seats In 2017 and In thIs area the conservatIves gaIned sedgefIeld and a Imarsana.com/news/durham-seat'>Durham Seat on the 2019 electIon. ThIs Is the sItuatIon at the moment. There are 81 out of 126 seats declared. The questIon was, can labour stop the rot . The answer Is, no. They have lost 13 seats and the conservatIves have gaIned nIne. I wIll take you back to the lIst of other councIls. They are stIll countIng In durham and they are countIng In stroud. We can get quIte focused on conservatIve versus labour, but there are other storIes to be told. Look at that, the greens are on 13 seats, the second party behInd the conservatIves In stroud. They are stIll countIng, but they have put on fIve seats In the conservatIves have lost sIx. So there are other Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contests goIng on and other trIbes as well. I. ,. ,. , Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contests goIng on and other trIbes aswell. ,. ,. , Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contests goIng on and other trIbes aswell. ,. , as well. Many thanks. That Is very useful for me as well. Many thanks. That Is very useful for me to as well. Many thanks. That Is very useful for me to Introduce as well. Many thanks. That Is very useful for me to Introduce our. As well. Many thanks. That Is very| useful for me to Introduce our next guest, rebecca long baIley, the Imarsana.com/news/labour-mp'>Labour Mp In salford. Thank you for joInIng us. Labour mp In salford. Thank you for oInInt us. Labour mp In salford. Thank you for oInInt us. ,. Labour mp In salford. Thank you for joInIng us good I joInIng us. Good afternoon. Good afternoon joInIng us. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Can joInIng us. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Can I joInIng us. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Can I start joInIng us. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Can I start off joInIng us. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Can I start off wIth. JoInIng us. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Can I start off wIth a I afternoon. Can I start off wIth a quote from the mayor of salford. He says, redwall voters have not moved away from the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party, the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party has moved away from them. The Imarsana.com/news/centre-ground'>Centre Ground no longer exIsts as It once dId. The publIc now expect us to pIck a sIde and artIculate a bold, ambItIous and progressIve vIsIon for the future, whIch tackles poverty, InequalIty, whIle placIng the needs of workIng people and famIlIes at Its core. When he says the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party has moved away from them, what Is your take on that . I moved away from them, what Is your take on that . Take on that . I agree completely and I am so proud take on that . I agree completely and I am so proud of take on that . I agree completely and I am so proud of hIm take on that . I agree completely and I am so proud of hIm and take on that . I agree completely and I am so proud of hIm and the take on that . I agree completely and I am so proud of hIm and the labour| I am so proud of hIm and the Imarsana.com/news/labour-team'>Labour Team and people across salford. He Increased hIs vote today. It was 49 last tIme and It went up to 59 . A local Imarsana.com/news/electIon-result'>ElectIon Results saw us hold onto all of our season and gaIn one from the conservatIve party. The Imarsana.com/news/natIonal-party'>NatIonal Party needs to dwell on that result and look at It because certaInly what paul and the Imarsana.com/news/labour-team'>Labour Team have done In salford was to put forward a very bold and radIcal economIc agenda. We were not afraId of our radIcal roots, our hIstory, our lInks to the trade unIon, we work very closely wIth the trade unIons and we have fantastIc results from that. What started out as a Imarsana.com/news/salford-survIval-plan'>Salford SurvIval Plan agaInst the Imarsana.com/news/salford-survIval-plan'>Salford SurvIval Plan agaInst the salford model, If you lIke, It could be used by the Imarsana.com/news/natIonal-party'>NatIonal Party now to rebuIld those redwall seats around the country In my vIew. Ok. RebuIld those redwall seats around the country In my vIew. Ok, rebecca. Can I the country In my vIew. Ok, rebecca. an out the country In my vIew. Ok, rebecca. Can I put thIs the country In my vIew. Ok, rebecca. Can I put thIs to the country In my vIew. Ok, rebecca. Can I put thIs to you, the country In my vIew. Ok, rebecca. Can I put thIs to you, we the country In my vIew. Ok, rebecca. Can I put thIs to you, we have the country In my vIew. Ok, rebecca. Can I put thIs to you, we have just. Can I put thIs to you, we havejust heard Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham speakIng about hIs vIctory In Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester. Would you say the elements you have just outlIned there In salford are the same reasons that Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham won a bIg vIctory In Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester . Won a bIg vIctory In Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester . , I. , manchester . DefInItely. IthInk Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham manchester . DefInItely. IthInk Imarsana.com/news/andy-lturnham'>Andy Lturnham has manchester . DefInItely. IthInk Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham has been manchester . DefInItely. IthInk Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham has been fantastIc burnham has been fantastIc throughout the whole pandemIc. One thIng your constItuents want you to do Is fIght for them and that Is what andy has done. It Is what paul dunnett, the salford mayor has done. The results have shown today. Andy has advocated In takIng our publIc transport back Into publIc ownershIp so we can make sure that prIces for local commuters are as cheap as possIble and we have the best possIble and we have the best possIble servIces. He Is fIghtIng for Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester, andy. People have been very proud of that In the face of what has been a very dIffIcult 12 months for everyone. We were dIscussIng the aftermath of the hartlepooImarsana.com/news/l-result'>L Result yesterday whIch was a bad blow for labour and then former mp Imarsana.com/news/peter-mandelson'>Peter Mandelson joIned us, a former mp for the town. He was upset and he saId It was a bad result and then he saId, thIs Is really the long shadow ofImarsana.com/news/jeremy-corbyn'>Jeremy Corbyn, that Is what we are dealIng wIth here and that Is why thIs result happened and other results, too. ~. Result happened and other results, too. , result happened and other results, too. ,. , result happened and other results, too. ,. Too. What would your answer to that be . I am afraId too. What would your answer to that be . I am afraId I too. What would your answer to that be . I am afraId I dont too. What would your answer to that be . I am afraId I dont agree too. What would your answer to that be . I am afraId I dont agree wIth I be . I am afraId I dont agree wIth that at all and I am afraId of the party wants to belIeve that, we are goIng down a very dangerous path. I thInk the reason we dId so badly In these local electIons Is because we were not sayIng very much, It was left to our local authorItIes lIke In Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester and In salford to artIculate theIr own vIsIon and to set out those economIc polIcIes whIch our voters wanted us to represent. I thInk It Is also Important to say that around those economIc polIcIes, we unIted our local partIes who always had dIsagreements on dIfferent polIcy areas, but we unIted around one agenda and that Is what the natIonal Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party has to do now. Not to pIck fIgures on the past from the past and pIn the blame on them because If you look at what happened In hartlepool and the Imarsana.com/news/medIa-coverage'>MedIa Coverage over the last few days, It was not a Imarsana.com/news/jeremy-corbyn'>Jeremy Corbyn problem, It was a problem of havIng no polIcy at the top of the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party and that has top of the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party and that has to change. OtherwIse, we wIll never wIn a Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon agaIn. Do you s mathIse wIn a Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon agaIn. Do you sympathIse wIth wIn a Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon agaIn. Do you sympathIse wIth vIewers wIn a Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon agaIn. Do you sympathIse wIth vIewers who wIn a Imarsana.com/news/general-electIon'>General ElectIon agaIn. Do you sympathIse wIth vIewers who get. SympathIse wIth vIewers who get slIghtly confused and they tell Is thIs . We have people who represent your vIews In the party and they are very artIculate and say we have lost contact wIth our tradItIonal roots. And just today, we had people closer to Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer sayIng exactly the same thIng. Yesterday. They saId, we have lost contact wIth people and we have lost contact wIth people and we Imarsana.com/news/cant-talk'>Cant Talk to them In language they understand, we need to be more relevant to them. You have two elements of the party sayIng exactly the same thIng but seemIng to dIsagree wIth each other, where Is the dIfference . The dIfference . There Is not a dIfference. The dIfference . There Is not a dIfference, and the dIfference . There Is not a dIfference, and It the dIfference . There Is not a dIfference, and It Is the dIfference . There Is not a. DIfference, and It Is exasperatIng sometImes. CertaInly, Iwould dIfference, and It Is exasperatIng sometImes. CertaInly, I would call on Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer and hIs team now to look at what happened In salford, look at what happened In salford, look at what happened In Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester, look at the polIcIes we were advocatIng and show how the party natIonally and unIfy around those and hopefully buIld some support and regaIn that trust In our Imarsana.com/news/red-wall'>Red Wall seats and other constItuencIes across the country. Because It can be done, we have shown In Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester and In salford that It can be done. So Instead of havIng the next sIx months of battles about factIons and who Is on what sIde and on the other sIde, we need to get real now and look at the polIcIes we know wIlImarsana.com/news/l-wIn'>L WIn and unIte around them. Ibear look at the polIcIes we know wIlImarsana.com/news/l-wIn'>L WIn and unIte around them. Bear wIth us, wIn and unIte around them. Bear wIth us. Rebecca wIn and unIte around them. Bear wIth us, rebecca. KIrsty wIn and unIte around them. Bear wIth us, rebecca. KIrsty wants wIn and unIte around them. Bear wIth us, rebecca. KIrsty wants to wIn and unIte around them. Bear wIth us, rebecca. KIrsty wants to ask wIn and unIte around them. Bear wIth us, rebecca. KIrsty wants to ask you | us, rebecca. KIrsty wants to ask you a questIon In a second In Imarsana.com/news/edInburgh-and-vIckI'>EdInburgh And VIckI Is here as well. And vIckI Is here as well. Rebecca, obvIously the and vIckI Is here as well. Rebecca, obvIously the polIcIes and vIckI Is here as well. Rebecca, obvIously the polIcIes that and vIckI Is here as well. Rebecca, obvIously the polIcIes that you and vIckI Is here as well. Rebecca, | obvIously the polIcIes that you want to put obvIously the polIcIes that you want to put forward presumably are the ones to put forward presumably are the ones you to put forward presumably are the ones you helped work on when Imarsana.com/news/jeremy-corbyn'>Jeremy Corbyn ones you helped work on when Imarsana.com/news/jeremy-corbyn'>Jeremy Corbyn was ones you helped work on when Imarsana.com/news/jeremy-corbyn'>Jeremy Corbyn was leader. They were put to an electorate and they were rejected. Paul dennett talked about the path the path must be socIalIst In Its core the path must be socIalIst In Its core gan the path must be socIalIst In Its core. Can you explaIn to people If people core. Can you explaIn to people If people are core. Can you explaIn to people If people are votIng conservatIve In places people are votIng conservatIve In places lIke hartlepool where you thInk places lIke hartlepool where you thInk that agenda wIll appeal to them . ThInk that agenda wIll appeal to them . ~ I ,. Them . Well, I thInk the results of them . Well, I thInk the results of the greater them . Well, I thInk the results of the Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester them . Well, I thInk the results of the Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester local the Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester local electIon speaks for Itself, broadly, the majorIty of the electorate are In favour of brIngIng our publIc transport back Into publIc ownershIp, In favour of levellIng up and Investment In our regIons, the creatIon of newjobs, InvestIng In new green IndustrIes to buIld those IndustrIes of the future and to make sure all of our chIldren and grandchIldren are guaranteed hIgh paId decent and hIgh skIlled jobs. They are not polIcIes that were rejected by the electorate, they are broadly very popular. So I thInk to throw out the entIre 2017 and 2019 manIfesto wIthout recognIsIng those elements that were very, very posItIve and popular It would be really detrImental to the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party. So my message would be two Imarsana.com/news/tos-team'>Tos Team to look at what worked In Imarsana.com/news/manchester-and-salford'>Manchester And Salford and buIld on that. Two Imarsana.com/news/tos-team'>Tos Team. RecognIse the polIcIes people want to see and to stop the argument and the factIons. � ,. , factIons. KeIrs team. KIrsty In edInburgh. FactIons. KeIrs team. KIrsty In edInburgh, rebecca factIons. KeIrs team. KIrsty In edInburgh, rebecca longbaIley, factIons. KeIrs team. KIrsty In edInburgh, rebecca longbaIley, you edInburgh, rebecca long baIley, you saId InImarsana.com/news/jeremy-corbyn'>Jeremy Corbyns Imarsana.com/news/shadow-cabInet'>Shadow CabInet and less successfully In the Imarsana.com/news/shadow-cabInet'>Shadow CabInet of Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer. Does hIs InclusIve style of leadershIp, you are offerIng Imarsana.com/news/advIce-today'>AdvIce Today as a senIorfIgure In the party, when dId you speak to Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer . Tho senIor fIgure In the party, when dId you speak to Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer . You speak to Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer . A very lont tIme you speak to Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer . A very long tIme ago. You speak to Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer . A very long tIme ago, but you speak to Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer . A very long tIme ago, but my you speak to Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer . A very long tIme ago, but my phone you speak to Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer . A very long tIme ago, but my phone Is I long tIme ago, but my phone Is always on my desk If he wants to rIng and have a chat about what happened In salford, certaInly. Ittfbfhat happened In salford, certaInly. What does that say happened In salford, certaInly. What does that say about happened In salford, certaInly. What does that say about hIm, he says he wants a revIew In a matter of weeks, he wants to celebrate all parts of the party and brIng It together and yet you have not spoken to Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer for weeks yet you have not spoken to Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmerfor weeks or yet you have not spoken to Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer for weeks or months, Is yet you have not spoken to Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmerfor weeks or months, Is It months . Starmer for weeks or months, Is It months . ~. , starmer for weeks or months, Is It months . ,. , months . Well, It has been a very lont months . Well, It has been a very long tIme. Months . Well, It has been a very long tIme. I months . Well, It has been a very long tIme, IwIll months . Well, It has been a very long tIme, I wIll say months . Well, It has been a very long tIme, I wIll say that. Months . Well, It has been a very long tIme, I wIll say that. He months . Well, It has been a very long tIme, I wIll say that. He Is I long tIme, I wIll say that. He Is probably a very busy man. But If he checks hIs dIary and fInds a sIte, I wIll always be at Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the a phone. WIll always be at Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the a hone. , wIll always be at Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the a hone. ,. Phone. That Is very clear and you never know. Phone. That Is very clear and you never know, your phone. That Is very clear and you never know, your phone phone. That Is very clear and you never know, your phone may phone. That Is very clear and you I never know, your phone may rIng. Thanks very much forjoInIng us the phone. Thanks very much for oInIng us the phone. Thanks very much for oInIng us the hone. ,. , I the phone. Rebecca longbaIley, mp. We were talkIng the phone. Rebecca longbaIley, mp. We were talkIng about the phone. Rebecca longbaIley, mp. We were talkIng about andy the phone. Rebecca longbaIley, mp. We were talkIng about Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham| we were talkIng about Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham and hIs remarkably successful real actIon In Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester and Imarsana.com/news/mr-burnham'>Mr Burnham joIns us now. Andy, many congratulatIons and thanks for joInIng us today. ItIhfe congratulatIons and thanks for joInIng us today. CongratulatIons and thanks for joInIng us today. CongratulatIons and thanks for oInInt us toda. I. JoInIng us today. We were talkIng to a country and joInIng us today. We were talkIng to a country and the joInIng us today. We were talkIng to a country and the elements joInIng us today. We were talkIng to a country and the elements of a country and the elements of success for dIfferent candIdates, you are clearly someone who runs a bIg regIon and you have been talkIng In your speech about the thIngs that you can delIver when you have got the kInd of powers you have. What are the lessons for labour more generally after thIs local Imarsana.com/news/electIon-campaIgn'>ElectIon CampaIgn In england . Generally after thIs local Imarsana.com/news/electIon-campaIgn'>ElectIon CampaIgn In england . Well, there are a lot of lessons, campaIgn In england . Well, there are a lot of lessons, but campaIgn In england . Well, there are a lot of lessons, but one campaIgn In england . Well, there are a lot of lessons, but one of campaIgn In england . Well, there are a lot of lessons, but one of them a lot of lessons, but one of them Is, stop beIng lukewarm about Imarsana.com/news/englIsh-devolutIon'>EnglIsh DevolutIon because what It Is doIng Is creatIng a dIfferent way of doIng polItIcs. Stronger, more connected, more authentIc representatIon for people and people are buyIng Into It. And you see somethIng sImIlar In wales. It then creates more posItIvIty towards polItIcs. And that Is somethIng I have been sayIng for a long tIme. Always workIng for westmInster and often a very london centrIc approach to lIfe, that really has to change now and If It doesnt change at thIs electIon, labour cannot take anythIng for granted any more. I know there were more restrIctIons on campaIgn thIs tIme because of the pandemIc and knockIng on doors or slIghtly more lImIted. However, what message are you gettIng from people In terms of theIr Imarsana.com/news/attItude-notjust'>AttItude Notjust to you, but to labour . You made the poInt people from other partIes were votIng for you and that Is faIr enough, but what was the attItude people brought and what wIth the negatIve thIngs you thought needed to be addressed . 50. NegatIve thIngs you thought needed to be addressed . To be addressed . So, there was defInItely a to be addressed . So, there was defInItely a dIfference. To be addressed . So, there was defInItely a dIfference. Some I to be addressed . So, there was defInItely a dIfference. Some people would say they voted for me, but they were not goIng to vote for the party at a local level. However, the Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester councIImarsana.com/news/l-result'>L Results are better than the average across the country and that says somethIng I thInk, that there Is a benefIcIal effect of devolutIon here wIth regard to councIImarsana.com/news/l-result'>L Results. I thInk, I would not rush to a superfIcIal analysIs. I heard peter Imarsana.com/news/mandelson-yesterday'>Mandelson Yesterday sayIng It was all about the former leader and I heard people from the left of the party sayIng It was all about the polIcIes, It Is more fundamental. The party has lost an emotIonal connectIon wIth people and that Is strongest In the areas that were prevIously most loyal to us and there Is no poInt In glossIng over It, that Is the facts of the matter. And It has happened notjust under recently does, It goes back to the early 2,000, thIs has been happenIng sInce then. And they have to make some pretty fundamental changes to try and wIn It back. And one of the ways back Is more Imarsana.com/news/englIsh-devolutIon'>EnglIsh DevolutIon, bIlled from the bottom up, connect wIth people In a dIfferent way. I am gettIng a bIt fed up of sameness to them, but they really do now need to lIsten and make real changes and end the london centrIc Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party that I have beenIn centrIc Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party that I have been In all my lIfe. It centrIc Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party that I have been In all my lIfe. Been In all my lIfe. It Is a startIng been In all my lIfe. It Is a Imarsana.com/news/startIng-poInt'>StartIng PoInt been In all my lIfe. It Is a Imarsana.com/news/startIng-poInt'>StartIng PoInt you been In all my lIfe. It Is a Imarsana.com/news/startIng-poInt'>StartIng PoInt you are. Been In all my lIfe. It Is a Imarsana.com/news/startIng-poInt'>StartIng PoInt you are makIng In many ways because you are basIcally sayIng Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnsons many ways because you are basIcally sayIng borIsjohnsons conservatIve party has a greater emotIonal connectIon to some of these tradItIonal labour areas than your party currently does. TradItIonal labour areas than your party currently does. Well, I thInk It Is fake, though. Party currently does. Well, I thInk It Is fake, though. I party currently does. Well, I thInk It Is fake, though. I dont party currently does. Well, I thInk It Is fake, though. I dont thInk I party currently does. Well, I thInk It Is fake, though. I dont thInk It| It Is fake, though. I dont thInk It Is real. But yes, we left a space for them. We have got a really bIg story to tell here that actually Is brIngIng people back to labour. I am just delIghted today, I need to say thIs, I have been re elected to the bestjob In the world, In the best Imarsana.com/news/cIty-regIon'>CIty RegIon In the world. I mean, what an amazIng feelIng that Is. I value every sIngle vote that has been gIven to me today. And from monday, I wIll use the mandate they have gIven me to brIng macro to hear back under publIc control, that Is real change. There was a real ale geologIcal change at a selectIon where the torIes were opposIng buses under publIc control and I was champIng Inept and the Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester publIc have backed It. ThIs Is for the prIme mInIster and I say thIs dIrectly to hIm champIonIng It. Iam say thIs dIrectly to hIm champIonIng It. I am wIllIng to leave I am wIllIng to move on from last year, work wIth us, make a Imarsana.com/news/london-style'>London Style publIc Imarsana.com/news/transport-system'>Transport System happen more quIckly In Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester by gettIng behInd what we do, levellIng up cant be about scatterIng a bIt of fundIng to favoured story places, It has got to be about helpIng everywhere get the benefIts london has got. And thIs Is the test I set, untIl a Imarsana.com/news/bus-journey'>Bus Journey In harpurhey In Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester costs the same as one In harIngey In london, £1. 55, not over £4 as It does at the moment, then I dont belIeve we wIll have got to levellIng up. If you gIve a place lIke thIs, an amazIng Imarsana.com/news/cIty-regIon'>CIty RegIon make thIs, a modern, affordable publIc Imarsana.com/news/transport-system'>Transport System that Is the foundatIon for a more productIve economy and connects people to opportunIty, where 3 mIllIon people have the benefIts of that, that Is levellIng up, prIme mInIster. What Is currently on offer Is not levellIng up and he does need to hear that message. OtherwIse, the government wIll have made all these premIses to the north and In a few years tIme, they wont add up to anythIng. Years tIme, they wont add up to an hInt. � � years tIme, they wont add up to an hInt. � , years tIme, they wont add up to an hInt. � � ,. Years tIme, they wont add up to an hInt. � ,. Years tIme, they wont add up to an hInt. � � ,. ,. AnythIng. And Id be a bIt cheeky and say can anythIng. And Id be a bIt cheeky and say can you anythIng. And Id be a bIt cheeky and say can you level anythIng. And Id be a bIt cheeky and say can you level up anythIng. And Id be a bIt cheeky and say can you level up wIth. And say can you level up wIth vIewers and say If the party needed you In a dIfferent role, may be closer to westmInster, gIven the fact that you have proved you are a success In thIs role, Is that somethIng you would be prepared to do . Can I be a bIt cheeky. Tats I do . Can I be a bIt cheeky. As I sa , I do . Can I be a bIt cheeky. As I say. I have do . Can I be a bIt cheeky. As I say. I have just do . Can I be a bIt cheeky. As I say, I have just been do . Can I be a bIt cheeky. I say, I have just been re elected for say, I havejust been re elected for a job I love and I mean It, I love It, I love thIsjob. I sound lIke Imarsana.com/news/kevIn-keegan'>KevIn Keegan now and I dont mean to Ifeel passIonate Imarsana.com/news/kevIn-keegan'>KevIn Keegan now and I dont mean to I feel passIonate about It In that way. To get Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The Endorsement I have got today Is just fantastIc and we have got massIve thIngs to do here. And seeIng everythIng through the lens of westmInster Is the problem. I thInk we are buIldIng the answer. Labour passed my answer Is to be found rIght here In Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester and I am buIldIng It so I am helpIng them already. That Is my prIorIty now. One day, because I have trIed twIce, by the way, so I am not goIng to put myself forward unless they needed me one day In the future, but we are not at that day, I am focused rIght here In Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester and that Is where all my energy Is goIng. Manchester and that Is where all my energy Is goIng energy Is goIng. Well, one day In the future. Energy Is goIng. Well, one day In the future. L energy Is goIng. Well, one day In the future, I thInk energy Is goIng. Well, one day In the future, I thInk you energy Is goIng. Well, one day In the future, I thInk you wIll energy Is goIng. Well, one day In the future, I thInk you wIll fInd I the future, I thInk you wIll fInd that In quIte a few headlInes, but thank you very much. KIrsty wants to come In. � , �. I. Thank you very much. KIrsty wants to come In. � , �. Thank you very much. KIrsty wants to comeIn. � ,�. Come In. Andy burnham, you saId you had tone come In. Andy burnham, you saId you had gone for come In. Andy burnham, you saId you had gone for labour come In. Andy burnham, you saId you had gone for Imarsana.com/news/labour-leader'>Labour LeadershIp come In. Andy burnham, you saId you had gone for Imarsana.com/news/labour-leader'>Labour LeadershIp twIce I had gone for Imarsana.com/news/labour-leader'>Labour LeadershIp twIce before had gone for Imarsana.com/news/labour-leader'>Labour LeadershIp twIce before and had gone for Imarsana.com/news/labour-leader'>Labour LeadershIp twIce before and you had not got It, but you clearly before and you had not got It, but you clearly wanted to have It and I wonder you clearly wanted to have It and I wonder If you clearly wanted to have It and I wonder If you thInk the characterIstIcs needed to be a labour characterIstIcs needed to be a Imarsana.com/news/labour-leader'>Labour Leader are dIfferent partly because Imarsana.com/news/labour-leader'>Labour Leader are dIfferent partly because of the skIlls you have learnt because of the skIlls you have learnt In because of the skIlls you have learnt In manchester . And you talk about learnt In manchester . And you talk about labour beIng caught In the Imarsana.com/news/westmInster-bubble'>WestmInster Bubble and If you look at keIr Imarsana.com/news/westmInster-bubble'>WestmInster Bubble and If you look at Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer, he very much as the metropolItan leader, very alert and focused metropolItan leader, very alert and focused. Do you thInk that Is ultImately a problem for labour . Well. UltImately a problem for labour . Well. I ultImately a problem for labour . Well. I do ultImately a problem for labour . Well, I do thInk keIr has an opportunIty to change what has gone before. I was honest and I saId that labour has been losIng Its emotIonal connectIon wIth people, but that has been under the last fIve leaders, notjust been under the last fIve leaders, not just the been under the last fIve leaders, notjust the most recent leader. So he has now got an opportunIty. But It has got to be done ImmedIately and the change cannot be because met It, It has to be real. Labour has to embrace Imarsana.com/news/englIsh-devolutIon'>EnglIsh DevolutIon wIth a vengeance and It really has to Invest In It and that Is what has to be done. ThIs leader of the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party has to be dIfferent to the ones we have seen before. Thbndr; ones we have seen before. Andy lturnham. Ones we have seen before. Andy burnham, even ones we have seen before. Andy burnham, even If ones we have seen before. Andy burnham, even If you ones we have seen before. Andy burnham, even If you look ones we have seen before. Andy burnham, even If you look at. Ones we have seen before. Andy burnham, even If you look at someone lIke borIs burnham, even If you look at someone lIke borIsjohnson who burnham, even If you look at someone lIke Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson who led burnham, even If you look at someone lIke borIsjohnson who led In london for two lIke borIsjohnson who led In london for two terms, you learn dIfferent skIlls for two terms, you learn dIfferent skIlls when for two terms, you learn dIfferent skIlls when you are a mayor. I heard your speech. SkIlls when you are a mayor. I heard your speech, It was passIonate. It was full your speech, It was passIonate. It was full of your speech, It was passIonate. It was full of what you can do for the people. Was full of what you can do for the people, because you have the skIlls to do people, because you have the skIlls to do It people, because you have the skIlls to do It and people, because you have the skIlls to do It and to brIng people together. If Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer does not feel he together. If Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer does not feel he can together. If Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer does not feel he can do that, Is It tIme to move feel he can do that, Is It tIme to move on . Feel he can do that, Is It tIme to move on . Because you are goIng through move on . Because you are goIng through leaders at a rate of knots, but you through leaders at a rate of knots, but you have to settle on one to take but you have to settle on one to take you but you have to settle on one to take you through the next electIon. Well. Take you through the next electIon. Well. KeIr take you through the next electIon. Well, keIr has been In postjust over a year and we have been In very exceptIonal tImes and that has to be taken Into account. But as I say, we need to rebuIld our connectIon wIth people and It cant be done quIckly, thIs Is a long job we have all got to do together. I am ready to play my part. KIrsty, I thInk to me today, seeIng everythIng here through the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party and the Imarsana.com/news/labour-leader'>Labour LeadershIp, that Is not the poInt to me, thIs Is the future beIng buIlt here actually for the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party by kInda buIldIng up from the ground In our bIg Imarsana.com/news/cIty-regIon'>CIty RegIons and In other parts of the country. What we are seeIng Is the party Is gettIng rewarded where we are posItIvely embracIng devolutIon here and In wales and other places. So thIs Is I thInk, thIs has got to be In england to the Imarsana.com/news/devolutIon-electIon'>DevolutIon ElectIon and that goes to the prIme mInIster as well. Remember we had a lIttle dIsagreement last year . I poInted out to hIm I dId not thInk he was treatIng us faIrly and ImmedIately, we heard, well, there Is no more devolutIon we are goIng to stop that. ThIs Is where westmInster has to grow up, dont gIve us devolutIon and expect us never to one fInaImarsana.com/news/l-questIon'>L QuestIon. When was the last tIme you had a conversatIon wIth Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer about Imarsana.com/news/labour-polIcy'>Labour PolIcy . WIth Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer about Imarsana.com/news/labour-tolI'>Labour TolI . I � wIth Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer about Imarsana.com/news/labour-tolI'>Labour TolI . I. WIth Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer about Imarsana.com/news/labour-tolI'>Labour TolI . I ~. , polIcy . Last week. And I saId many ofthe polIcy . Last week. And I saId many of the Imarsana.com/news/thIngs-polIcy'>ThIngs PolIcy . Last week. And I saId many of the thIngs I polIcy . Last week. And I saId many of the thIngs I am polIcy . Last week. And I saId many of the thIngs I am sayIng polIcy . Last week. And I saId many of the thIngs I am sayIng to polIcy . Last week. And I saId many of the thIngs I am sayIng to you. I polIcy . Last week. And I saId many| of the thIngs I am sayIng to you. He was lIstenIng, and I belIeve he understands everythIng that I am sayIng. I thInk we wIll see some change. Im a frIend of hers, I have worked wIth hIm over a number of years, I support hIm, worked wIth hIm over a number of years, Isupport hIm, Im not campaIgnIng agaInst hIm In any way, shape orform. I am here In the best Imarsana.com/news/cIty-regIon'>CIty RegIon Is the world, re elected as Its mayor, and thats where my energy Is, an afrIcan help hIm In the party goIng forward of course I wIll do that but It does mean change. And If I can help hIm. But labour has to change and gets rId of Its london centrIc ways and If It doesnt I dont know what the future holds for It. CongratulatIons on the Imarsana.com/news/reelectIon-future'>ReelectIon Future holds for It. CongratulatIons on the Imarsana.com/news/reelectIon-and-future'>ReelectIon And Future holds for It. CongratulatIons on the reelectIon and thank future holds for It. CongratulatIons on the reelectIon and thank you I future holds for It. CongratulatIons I on the reelectIon and thank you for on the re electIon and thank you for your tIme, Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham. On the re electIon and thank you for yourtIme, Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham. Now on the re electIon and thank you for your tIme, Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham. Now tIme for the news at fIve oclock. The snp Is expected to wIn a fourth term Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland but the party Is not now forecast to wIn an overalImarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty. Labour have controlled the senate In wales. In england, labour Is losIng Imarsana.com/news/councIl-seats'>CouncIl Seats but has won a number of male races and Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham has been re elected mayor. A warnIng that thIs report contaIns flash photography. The smb strIkIng a confIdent pose. But they argue It Is stIll set to be a pro Independence parlIament. Its] a pro Independence parlIament. II. I. I. Of our msps wIll be elected on a manIfesto that they should be a referendum. If the people have voted for that to happen surely that Is what should happen. Flan for that to happen surely that Is what should happen. For that to happen surely that Is what should happen. Can we get all the cameras what should happen. Can we get all the cameras over what should happen. Can we get all the cameras over here . What should happen. Can we get all the cameras over here . BorIs what should happen. Can we get all I the cameras over here . BorIs Imarsana.com/news/johnson-yo'>Johnson Yo y yed the cameras over here . BorIs Imarsana.com/news/johnson-yo'>Johnson Yo Imarsana.com/news/y-eyd-u'>Y Eyd U y the cameras over here . BorIs johnson popped up In the cameras over here . BorIs johnson popped up In hartlepool the cameras over here . BorIs johnson popped up In hartlepoolyesterday. Popped up In Imarsana.com/news/hartlepool-yesterday'>Hartlepool Yesterday makIng further strIdes In england as the torIes dIggIng over Its stance on scottIsh Independence. Its on scottIsh Independence. Its questIonable at the moment whether the snp questIonable at the moment whether the snp wIll get the majorIty wIll not, the snp wIll get the majorIty wIll not. We the snp wIll get the majorIty wIll not, we wIll have to waIt to see whether not, we wIll have to waIt to see whether the results wIll come through whether the results wIll come through. The Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Governments posItIon through. The Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Governments posItIon Is through. The Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Governments posItIon Is clear, there Is no case for another posItIon Is clear, there Is no case for another referendum partIcularly as we for another referendum partIcularly as we try for another referendum partIcularly as we try to fInd a way out of the pandemIc as we try to fInd a way out of the pandemIc and get our economy goIng agaIn pandemIc and get our economy goIng ataIn. F pandemIc and get our economy goIng ataIn. � , pandemIc and get our economy goIng ataIn. � ,. AgaIn. Labours woods In Imarsana.com/news/england-IncludInt'>England IncludInt agaIn. Labours woods In england IncludIng councIl agaIn. Labours woods In england IncludIng councIl losses agaIn. Labours woods In england IncludIng councIl losses puttIng I IncludIng councIl losses puttIng leader Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer under pressure. But In wales a booster for labour, they wIll contInue In power, wInnIng half the seats, so celebratIon Is bIg and small. Half the seats, so celebratIon Is bIt and small. ,. BIg and small. Our bIggest advantage Is the fact we bIg and small. Our bIggest advantage Is the fact we have bIg and small. Our bIggest advantage Is the fact we have been bIg and small. Our bIggest advantage Is the fact we have been In Is the fact we have been In government Is the fact we have been In government here Is the fact we have been In government here In Is the fact we have been In| government here In wales, demonstratIng government here In wales, demonstratIng what government here In wales, demonstratIng what you. Government here In wales, | demonstratIng what you can government here In wales, demonstratIng what you can do for progressIve demonstratIng what you can do for progressIve causes demonstratIng what you can do for progressIve causes when demonstratIng what you can do for progressIve causes when you demonstratIng what you can do for progressIve causes when you have| demonstratIng what you can do for. ProgressIve causes when you have the power progressIve causes when you have the power and progressIve causes when you have the power and the progressIve causes when you have the power and the authorIty progressIve causes when you have the power and the authorIty to progressIve causes when you have the power and the authorIty to do progressIve causes when you have the power and the authorIty to do that, I power and the authorIty to do that, whereas power and the authorIty to do that, whereas our power and the authorIty to do that, whereas our Imarsana.com/news/colleagues-power'>Colleagues Power and the authorIty to do that, whereas our colleagues In power and the authorIty to do that, whereas our colleagues In englandl whereas our colleagues In england often whereas our colleagues In england often beIng whereas our colleagues In england often beIng In whereas our colleagues In england often beIng In opposItIon whereas our colleagues In england often beIng In opposItIon are whereas our colleagues In england often beIng In opposItIon are ablel often beIng In opposItIon are able to put often beIng In opposItIon are able to put forward often beIng In opposItIon are able to put forward Ideas, often beIng In opposItIon are able to put forward Ideas, but often beIng In opposItIon are able to put forward Ideas, but they often beIng In opposItIon are able I to put forward Ideas, but they dont have the to put forward Ideas, but they dont have the advantage to put forward Ideas, but they dont have the advantage of to put forward Ideas, but they dont have the advantage of poIntIng to put forward Ideas, but they dont have the advantage of poIntIng to I have the advantage of poIntIng to the record have the advantage of poIntIng to the record. � , have the advantage of poIntIng to the record have the advantage of poIntIng to the record. � , �. The record. Andy burnham Is expected to be the mayor the record. Andy burnham Is expected to be the mayor for the record. Andy burnham Is expected to be the mayor for labour the record. Andy burnham Is expected to be the mayor for labour and to be the mayor for labour and emotIonal and hIs acceptance. KIlt; emotIonal and hIs acceptance. My famIl. EmotIonal and hIs acceptance. My famIly. Thank emotIonal and hIs acceptance. IlI famIly. Thank you emotIonal and hIs acceptance. IjI1 famIly. Thank you all emotIonal and hIs acceptance. M1 famIly. Thank you all for your patIence and guIdance, your love. WIth so much democracy In actIon, you have got to keep the energy goIng, thats certaInly the mood In norfolk, so stay tuned for more results IncludIng the london and messed Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands male races. A man has been arrested on suspIcIon of murder followIng the death of a Imarsana.com/news/polIce-communIty-support'>PolIce CommunIty Support offIcer In kent. 53 year old Imarsana.com/news/julIa-james'>JulIa James was found In woodland In kent last month after takIng her dog for a walk. Our reporter Is there for us. Tell us about the InvestIgatIon . PolIce and forensIc teams about the InvestIgatIon . PolIce and forensIc teams have about the InvestIgatIon . PolIce and forensIc teams have been about the InvestIgatIon . PolIce and | forensIc teams have been searchIng Is housed behInd me, not farfrom dover, polIce teams arrIved early thIs mornIng and thIs Is In connectIon wIth the murder of the Imarsana.com/news/polIce-communIty-support'>PolIce CommunIty Support offIcer who was kIlled on the 27th of aprIl. The teams have been here all day, searchIng, and the area Is a quIet resIdentIal area full of new buIld houses. , In connectIon wIth the murder, and he Is belIeved to come from the canterbury area. JulIa james was last seen on the 27th of aprIl, she was walkIng her dog, a jack russell dog, and was kIlled and sustaIned severe InjurIes to her head. PolIce are stIll askIng people to gIve InformatIon and askIng that If people saw anythIng on the 27th of aprIl between one and lIz30pm to come forward and gIve more InformatIon because they are stIll lookIng for further leads In thIs case. , I, lookIng for further leads In thIs case. ,. ,. , lookIng for further leads In thIs case. , �. � , case. Some traIns In brItaIns busIest raIl case. Some traIns In brItaIns busIest raIl servIces case. Some traIns In brItaIns busIest raIl servIces were case. Some traIns In brItaIns busIest raIl servIces were suspended after cracks were found but are now runnIng agaIn. The operators of great western Imarsana.com/news/raIlway-and-trans'>RaIlway And Trans pennIne express warned passengers of major Imarsana.com/news/dIsruptIon-or-safety'>DIsruptIon Or Safety checks were carrIed out. Hull traIns have resumed normal servIces and lner Is brIngIng back some of theIr traIns. The latest coronavIrus fIgures have been released by the government. In the latest 24 Imarsana.com/news/hour-perIod'>Hour PerIod the uk has recorded 2047 cases, they have been fIve deaths wIthIn 28 days of a posItIve test. More than 35 mIllIon people have now receIved the fIrst dose of the vaccIne. AIrlIne say they have put on extra flIghts to countrIes In the governments new green Imarsana.com/news/travel-lIst'>Travel LIst after a surge In demand sensed announcements were made. Portugal, Imarsana.com/news/gIbraltarand-Israel'>GIbraltarand Israel are among destInatIons that travel servIce wIll be able to vIsIt from the 17th Of May wIthout havIng to self Isolate on theIr return. The lIve coverage of the Imarsana.com/news/electIon-result'>ElectIon Results as they come In and Imarsana.com/news/expert-analysIs'>Expert AnalysIs of what they mean for you, you can vIsIt our websIte or the Imarsana.com/news/bbc-news'>Bbc News app. Now Its back to electIons 2021. Welcome back, Im In edInburgh, and here Is In london. We are tyIng up loose ends In a way although there are bIg loose ends to tIe up because we are stIll waItIng for bIg results In england and some local Imarsana.com/news/electIon-result'>ElectIon Results. We know the shIp thIngs Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland by now and In wales all the results are In. Lets have a look at the Imarsana.com/news/councIl-scoreboard'>CouncIl Scoreboard In england we stand. Here we are, conservatIves are up to 37, a good result for them, labour275 are up to 37, a good result for them, labour 275 on what has been a very dIsappoIntIng set of electIons over all the Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer and hIs party, not In wales for Imarsana.com/news/welsh-labour'>Welsh Labour. The lIb dems down 18 and the greens, very healthy Increase of 67 councIllors, the others down 11. And thatIs councIllors, the others down 11. And that Is the local electIons but as part of all of thIs package as well, we should remember we are talkIng about very Important Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest too, we spoke to Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham just now In Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester, we spoke earlIer to Imarsana.com/news/steve-rotherham'>Steve Rotherham In lIverpool so of course the Imarsana.com/news/london-result'>London Result Is stIll yet to come, and goIng through the fIrst round of votes now wIth seven of the 14 areas counted, we can take a peek at that before we come Into our next guest because that wIll help us when we talk to our news our guest at the moment. Thats not quIte rIght, apologIes. We are lookIng at seven out of 14 areas and Its a battle really at thIs stage between Imarsana.com/news/sadIq-khan'>SadIq Khan, that mayor who has been the last few years, and Imarsana.com/news/sean-baIley'>Sean BaIley for the conservatIves. Seven out of 14 areas counted, Imarsana.com/news/sadIq-khan'>SadIq Khan on 480,000. What I would lIke to do now Is to go to the green party. Good to see you wIth us today. A great backdrop, tower brIdge. Where do we thInk we stand on the Imarsana.com/news/london-mayor'>London Mayoral race, what Is yoursense on the Imarsana.com/news/london-mayor'>London Mayoral race, what Is your sense of thIngs . Its on the Imarsana.com/news/london-mayor'>London Mayoral race, what Is your sense of thIngs . Your sense of thIngs . Its goIng well for us. Your sense of thIngs . Its goIng well for us, we your sense of thIngs . Its goIng well for us, we look your sense of thIngs . Its goIng well for us, we look to your sense of thIngs . Its goIng well for us, we look to be your sense of thIngs . Its goIng well for us, we look to be set. Your sense of thIngs . Its goIng l well for us, we look to be set for your sense of thIngs . Its goIng I well for us, we look to be set for a Imarsana.com/news/record-result'>Record Result for mayor and the london assembly. As you know theres a second round of mayoral to be counted and for the assembly It wIll take awhIle to be worked out so we cant make any predIctIons yet but It looks lIke we wIll get a Imarsana.com/news/record-result'>Record Result. Last tIme, I got hundred and 50,000 votes In total. FIrst seven constItuencIes. Last tIme I got 150,000 In total, so we are ahead of that thIs stage. That Is InterestIng are ahead of that thIs stage. That Is InterestIng as are ahead of that thIs stage. That Is InterestIng as well. On a logIstIcal thIng, Is InterestIng as well. On a logIstIcalthIng, have Is InterestIng as well. On a logIstIcal thIng, have they gIven you any guIdance on when we mIght expect a fInaImarsana.com/news/l-result'>L Result because It can take quIte long . We have had the restrIctIons as well, so there are clearly problems for the offIcIals. Any sense . It clearly problems for the offIcIals. Any sense . Clearly problems for the offIcIals. Any sense . It has been a Imarsana.com/news/twoday-count'>Twoday Count as you any sense . It has been a Imarsana.com/news/twoday-count'>Twoday Count as you know. Any sense . It has been a Imarsana.com/news/twoday-count'>Twoday Count as you know. At any sense . It has been a Imarsana.com/news/twoday-count'>Twoday Count as you know. At the any sense . It has been a twoday| count as you know. At the moment any sense . It has been a Imarsana.com/news/twoday-count'>Twoday Count as you know. At the moment we are expectIng to get a result later thIs evenIng. There are some other votes goIng on wIthIn london, a by electIon and In tower hamlets there Is a referendum on whether or not to keep the current mayoral model that they have and that has delayed the count there. We are waItIng to hear, but It wIll be defInItely by Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of today. The greens currently In the englIsh local authorItIes are lookIng at a gaIn of 63 seats, whIch Is clearly a healthy gaIn. Where do you thInk that wIll end up . What Is your sense of the kInd of growth you hope to be lookIng at by Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of all the countIng . LookIng at by Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of all the countIn . � I, lookIng at by Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of all the countIn . �. , lookIng at by Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of all the countIn . � I,. ,. , ~ lookIng at by Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of all the countIn . �. , I, ~. LookIng at by Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of all the countInI . �. ,. , ~. CountIng . AgaIn we are lookIng at a Imarsana.com/news/record-number-countIng'>Record Number CountIng . AgaIn we are lookIng at a Imarsana.com/news/record-number'>Record Number of countIng . AgaIn we are lookIng at a Imarsana.com/news/record-number'>Record Number of green countIng . AgaIn we are lookIng at a j Imarsana.com/news/record-number'>Record Number of green councIllors, elected on a Imarsana.com/news/record-number'>Record Number of councIls, breakthroughs Into new councIls, breakthroughs Into new councIls, IncludIng quIte a few of the Imarsana.com/news/county-councIl'>County CouncIl, and bIg gaIns as well. Suffolk Imarsana.com/news/county-councIl'>County CouncIl we are now the offIcIal opposItIon. In sheffIeld we have broken the balance of power there and we have 13 councIllors In sheffIeld as well. But we are stIll waItIng for results from places where we expect to do well lIke brIstol and shropshIre. We wIll see our gaIns contInuIng for the rest of the day. It Is a real testament to the hardware of greens workIng for theIr communItIes. It Is not rocket scIence, you get In there and you work for your communIty and you work for every vote and our new councIllors wIll contInue to work for theIr communItIes, puttIng In the same kInd of lIstenIng and actIng on the real concerns of people on the ground who won them theIr seats In the fIrst place. I am IncredIbly proud of my party rIght across the country makIng these gaIns. Across the country makIng these IaIns. , , I, gaIns. ThIs Is InterestIng when you look at the gaIns. ThIs Is InterestIng when you look at the balance gaIns. ThIs Is InterestIng when you look at the balance of gaIns. ThIs Is InterestIng when you look at the balance of votes gaIns. ThIs Is InterestIng when you look at the balance of votes In look at the balance of votes In suffolk, for example, are you takIng the votes away from the lIb dems . Where are the votes comIng from . We are where are the votes comIng from . Are gaInIng seats. That Is In equal measure from labour and conservatIve. It Is Important to look at It In that way. These are votes for the greens, It Is not to do wIth the behavIour of the other partIes. People are fed up wIth thIs two party trIbalIsm. They want to vote for people who wIll work hard for them In theIr communItIes who are lookIng towards the future. We have got that unIque combInatIon of lookIng to buIld up a recovery from the coronavIrus crIsIs, but also lookIng to buIld a real green future as well and more and more people are InspIred by that and by the people they meet In the green party. That Is really comIng through In those votes. We are wInnIng votes from every party In every part of england and there are no no go areas for the greens any more. It Is and there are no nogo areas for the greens any more. Greens any more. It Is kIrsty In edInburgh greens any more. It Is kIrsty In Imarsana.com/news/edInburgh-l'>EdInburgh L greens any more. It Is kIrsty In edInburgh. I know greens any more. It Is kIrsty In edInburgh. I know you greens any more. It Is kIrsty In edInburgh. I know you are greens any more. It Is kIrsty In edInburgh. I know you are a I edInburgh. I know you are a dIstInctIve party from the greens Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland, but you must be lookIng north and see what Is happenIng Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland today. The greens have put on a lIst of vote msps. If you go Into some kInd of a coalItIon wIth the snp to push forward on a second Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum, It wIll be the fIrst tIme the greens have been In a natIonal parlIament In brItaIn In a natIonal parlIament In brItaIn In the unIted kIngdom, a natIonal government, I should say. What do you thInk of that . You government, I should say. What do you thInk of that . Government, I should say. What do you thInk of that . You cannot ask me to IIve an you thInk of that . You cannot ask me to gIve any advIce you thInk of that . You cannot ask me to gIve any advIce to you thInk of that . You cannot ask me to gIve any advIce to my you thInk of that . You cannot ask me to gIve any advIce to my sIster to gIve any advIce to my sIster party, the scottIsh greens. They are a separate party and these decIsIons are for them. Of course. I am IncredIbly proud of what they have done. The Influence they wIll have on the current government and the next government as well. But It Is not for me to tell you and not for me to decIde. Not for me to tell you and not for me to decIde. Thank you very much Indeed. Me to decIde. Thank you very much Indeed we me to decIde. Thank you very much Indeed. We are me to decIde. Thank you very much Indeed. We are goIng me to decIde. Thank you very much Indeed. We are goIng over me to decIde. Thank you very much Indeed. We are goIng over to me to decIde. Thank you very much Indeed. We are goIng over to davId| Indeed. We are goIng over to davId Imarsana.com/news/wallace-lock'>Wallace Lockhart wIth the overall pIcture Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland now, whIch Is becomIng clear. We pIcture Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland now, whIch Is becomIng clear. PIcture Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland now, whIch Is becomIng clear. We can have a look at the bbc see becomIng clear. We can have a look at the bbc see predIctIons becomIng clear. We can have a look at the bbc see predIctIons for becomIng clear. We can have a look at the bbc see predIctIons for the l at the bbc see predIctIons for the scottIsh Imarsana.com/news/parlIament-electIon'>ParlIament ElectIon and lets consIder as well how every Imarsana.com/news/party-leader'>Party Leader It mIght be feelIng. 63 seats for the snp Is what the bbc Is predIctIng. Two short of majorIty, agonIsIngly close, and that Is not just Important for thIngs lIke Independence. If you have the majorIty you can get your budget through wIthout doIng deals wIth other partIes. But the snp are headIng for a fourth term In government wIth the same Imarsana.com/news/seat-tally'>Seat Tally they had after the 2016 electIon. That Is quIte an achIevement. Lets move on to the scottIsh conservatIves. A lot of pollIng suggested Imarsana.com/news/douglas-ross'>Douglas Ross was not landIng too well wIth voters Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. If thIs predIctIon pans out, 31 seats Is what they got In 2016 under Imarsana.com/news/ruth-davIdson'>Ruth DavIdson and he would be seeIng that as a good result, they are stIll the second bIggest party In hollywood. Anas sarwar, the scottIsh Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party, he dId seem to go very well wIth voters Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland, but It has not translated Into seats. It Is two seats fewer than labour had after the 2016 electIon. I am sure Imarsana.com/news/anas-sarwar'>Anas Sarwar wIll be sayIng he wIll take the next fIve years to rebuIld Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-labour'>ScottIsh Labour, but he was hopeful he could get them Into second place and he has fallen quIte short. PotentIally the happIest party wIth thIs predIctIon may be the scottIsh greens. That looks lIke nIne seats for them, up from the current sIx. Lorna slater and Imarsana.com/news/patrIck-harvIe'>PatrIck HarvIe, the co leaders, wIll be happy wIth that. That combIned wIth the snp Is a majorIty In favour of a second Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum, a logIcal Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum, a logIcal Independence pro Imarsana.com/news/Independence-majorIty'>Independence MajorIty In the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament. The lIb dems, Imarsana.com/news/wIllIe-rennIe'>WIllIe RennIe on four, a loss of one seat. He saId he was confIdent he would gaIn seats and It does not look lIke It wIll pan out, perhaps not the best result for the Imarsana.com/news/lIberal-democrats'>LIberal Democrats. You may notIce one name mIssIng, Imarsana.com/news/alex-salmond'>Alex Salmond, now leader of the Imarsana.com/news/alba-party'>Alba Party, the bbc Is predIctIng they wIll not get any seats. ThIs Is the predIctIon for hollywood, 2021. The snp on 63 and 60 34 years ago, but there Is a bIgger pIcture. There Is, the but there Is a bIgger pIcture. There Is. The new but there Is a bIgger pIcture. There Is, the new parlIament but there Is a bIgger pIcture. There Is, the new parlIament looks but there Is a bIgger pIcture. There Is, the new parlIament looks a but there Is a bIgger pIcture. There Is, the new parlIament looks a Imarsana.com/news/lot-l'>Lot L Is, the new parlIament looks a Imarsana.com/news/lot-l'>Lot LIke the old parlIament except the greens seem much stronger and the overalImarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty for Independence Is much stronger. What Is the dIfference between fIve years ago . That took place before the Imarsana.com/news/brexIt-referendum'>BrexIt Referendum. That was not seen as an unambIguous majorIty for a mandate for a second Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum, there Is no doubt most people who voted for the snp and the greens here wIll have seen theIr vote as a mandate for a second Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum and the Imarsana.com/news/dIffIculty-borIsjohnson'>DIffIculty BorIsjohnson has a thIng and we Imarsana.com/news/anas-sarwar'>Anas Sarwar wIll talk more about thIs later, although It Is a very strong and reasonable argument that resonates wIth a great many people that thIs Is not the tIme, the next fIve years Is not the tIme to rerun 2014. The scottIsh electorate have dIsagreed wIth It and have returned a strong majorIty In favour of a second Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum. In favour of a second Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum referendum. There Is the pushback about davId referendum. There Is the pushback about Imarsana.com/news/davId-cameron'>DavId Cameron referendum. There Is the pushback about Imarsana.com/news/davId-cameron'>DavId Cameron goIng referendum. There Is the pushback about Imarsana.com/news/davId-cameron'>DavId Cameron goIng Into. Referendum. There Is the pushback about Imarsana.com/news/davId-cameron'>DavId Cameron goIng Into a I about Imarsana.com/news/davId-cameron'>DavId Cameron goIng Into a Imarsana.com/news/brexIt-referendum'>BrexIt Referendum on a much lower percentage. Lstale Imarsana.com/news/brexIt-referendum'>BrexIt Referendum on a much lower percentage percentage. We wIll hear a lot In the next few percentage. We wIll hear a lot In the next few months percentage. We wIll hear a lot In the next few months and percentage. We wIll hear a lot In the next few months and years | percentage. We wIll hear a lot In the next few months and years about legItImacy and that echoes wIth what happens In the 19805 when the campaIgn for thIs place really gathered steam. DavId cameron won the 2010 electIon on a promIse to hold a Imarsana.com/news/brexIt-referendum'>BrexIt Referendum wIth 38 of the popular vote, Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon has 47 of the popular vote. find the popular vote, Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon has 47 of the popular vote. And we wIll remember has 47 of the popular vote. And we wIll remember In has 47 of the popular vote. And we wIll remember In the has 47 of the popular vote. And we wIll remember In the last wIll remember In the last Independence at the start of that campaIgn, the polls wIll lower, but as the momentum buIlt towards the referendum, they started to pIck up steam and It ended up beIng 55 In the Imarsana.com/news/status-quo'>Status Quo and 45 for Independence. The Imarsana.com/news/status-quo'>Status Quo and 45 for Independence. Yes, a decIsIve vIctory for Independence. Yes, a decIsIve vIctory for the Independence. Yes, a decIsIve vIctory for the scots Independence. Yes, a decIsIve vIctory for the scots gIvIng Independence. Yes, a decIsIve. VIctory for the scots gIvIng theIr consent to stay In the unIon. But the Imarsana.com/news/Independence-campaIgn'>Independence CampaIgn started In the Imarsana.com/news/Independence-campaIgn'>Independence CampaIgn started In the low to mId 305 and It buIlt up to 45 . But what happened In the 19805 when the conservatIve government In london trIed to keep a lId on the campaIgn for a Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament, It had the effect of a pressure cooker. ThIs parlIament, It had the effect of a pressure cooker. Pressure cooker. ThIs Is Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturI-eon-pressure'>NIcola SturI Eon Pressure cooker. ThIs Is Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon out pressure cooker. ThIs Is Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon out earlIer pressure cooker. ThIs Is Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon out earlIer on pressure cooker. ThIs Is Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon out earlIer on the pressure cooker. ThIs Is Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon out earlIer on the glasgow streets, a wet day, but very brIght under her yellow umbrella. She Is goIng to be gaInIng thIs next few weeks and months very carefully. As you are sayIng, there are people In her party who want her to go faster, but she Is a lawyer and she Is cautIous. But she Is a lawyer and she Is cautIous but she Is a lawyer and she Is cautIous. ,. ,. ,. , cautIous. She Is a lawyer, cautIous and a rII cautIous. She Is a lawyer, cautIous and a Imarsana.com/news/rIg-lIst'>RIg LIst cautIous. She Is a lawyer, cautIous and a Imarsana.com/news/rIg-lIst'>RIg LIst and cautIous. She Is a lawyer, cautIous and a Imarsana.com/news/rIg-lIst'>RIg LIst and a and a Imarsana.com/news/rIg-lIst'>RIg LIst and a constItutIonalIst, she keeps remIndIng her more radIcal colleagues. A Imarsana.com/news/regIonal-lIst'>RegIonal LIst. She keeps remIndIng them catalonIa Is not Independent, but It had Its referendum and dId not succeed In delIverIng Independence, so she wants to do It In a way that Is consensual wIth the westmInster government, a way In whIch the result If It Is for Independence wIll be rep wIll be recognIsed by europe and the rest of the world and that wIll not be achIeved If there Is a kInd of consent we saw In 2014 from westmInster, whIch Is not forthcomIng. From westmInster, whIch Is not forthcomIng from westmInster, whIch Is not forthcomInI. ,. ,. ,. , forthcomIng. There Is no questIon of what she saId forthcomIng. There Is no questIon of what she saId prevIously, forthcomIng. There Is no questIon of what she saId prevIously, of forthcomIng. There Is no questIon of what she saId prevIously, of goIng I what she saId prevIously, of goIng for any Imarsana.com/news/wIldcat-referendum'>WIldcat Referendum or tryIng to make, tryIng to bend the legalese. But a number of lawyers wIll be less now. WIll be less now. They certaInly Intend to regIster wIll be less now. They certaInly Intend to regIster eIght wIll be less now. They certaInly Intend to regIster eIght foreIgn | Intend to regIster eIght foreIgn Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum In the Imarsana.com/news/event-borIsjohnson'>Event BorIsjohnson Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum In the event Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson wIthholds Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum In the Imarsana.com/news/event-borIsjohnson'>Event BorIsjohnson wIthholds an artIcle 30 order and that wIll be a dIrect challenge to borIsjohnson to go to court and have It declared unconstItutIonal. Court and have It declared unconstItutIonal. ,. ,. , court and have It declared unconstItutIonal. ,. , unconstItutIonal. NIcola sturgeon Is elbow to elbow unconstItutIonal. NIcola sturgeon Is elbow to elbow wIth unconstItutIonal. NIcola sturgeon Is elbow to elbow wIth her unconstItutIonal. NIcola sturgeon Is elbow to elbow wIth her Imarsana.com/news/colleague-l'>Colleague L unconstItutIonal. NIcola sturgeon Is| elbow to elbow wIth her colleague In glasgow today. There Is goIng to be a questIon of the legal advIce, laura Is always cautIous, but here Is my advIce, but they are goIng to work hard on thIs and they have worked hard on thIs already. Thea;r worked hard on thIs already. They have, but worked hard on thIs already. They have. But I worked hard on thIs already. They have, but I suppose worked hard on thIs already. They have, but I suppose the worked hard on thIs already. TIe 1 have, but I suppose the story of thIs electIon Is two countrIes pullIng In opposIte dIrectIons In terms of the values expressed at the ballot box. We now have a conservatIve government chuckIng up astonIshIng successes, havIng alIgned themselves very closely wIth the values of the brexIt heartlands, those are not valleys that enjoy much tractIon Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. Instead, we have a governIng party pushIng forward and earnIng a fourth term In parlIament wIth value strongly alIgned to the remaIn arguments. I thInk Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon Is goIng to say a few words, unless she freezIng out there, I thInk she Is about to speak. We wIll hear from the Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster of scotland. MInIster of scotland. NIcola sturgeon. MInIster of scotland. NIcola sturgeon, Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster of scotland. NIcola sturgeon, Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster. I mInIster of scotland. NIcola l sturgeon, Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster. You mInIster of scotland. NIcola I sturgeon, Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster. You are here to welcome sturgeon, Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster. You are here to welcome one sturgeon, Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster. You are here to welcome one of sturgeon, Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster. You are here to welcome one of your I sturgeon, Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster. You are I here to welcome one of your newest colleagues to holyrood, what Is your message to your colleagues . CongratulatIons to all newly elected msps and commIseratIons to all those who lost msps and commIseratIons to all those who lost out, I know from experIence In the who lost out, I know from experIence In the past who lost out, I know from experIence In the past how tough that Is, but to everybody who has been elected, congratulatIons, It Is a huge honour to he congratulatIons, It Is a huge honour to he a congratulatIons, It Is a huge honour to be a member of our natIonal parlIament. WhIle I am delIghted we have got parlIament. WhIle I am delIghted we have got the Imarsana.com/news/snp-msps'>Snp Msps elected, I am thrIlled have got the Imarsana.com/news/snp-msps'>Snp Msps elected, I am thrIlled beyond words to see thIs woman thrIlled beyond words to see thIs woman elected. It has taken us 20 years. Woman elected. It has taken us 20 years. Lrut woman elected. It has taken us 20 years, but today she Is the fIrst woman years, but today she Is the fIrst woman of years, but today she Is the fIrst woman of colour to be elected to natIonal woman of colour to be elected to natIonal parlIaments so polItIcs asIde, natIonal parlIaments so polItIcs asIde, thIs Is a specIal and sIgnIfIcant moment for Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland And I sIgnIfIcant moment for Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland And I could sIgnIfIcant moment for Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland And I could not sIgnIfIcant moment for Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland And I could not be prouder rIght now. It I could not be prouder rIght now. [11 does I could not be prouder rIght now. Does look I could not be prouder rIght now. It does look lIke you are goIng to fall short of the majorIty people spoke of, what do you make of the results . It Is not a huge sIp surprIse and I saId It Is not a huge sIp surprIse and I saId majorIty was a long shot, we have saId majorIty was a long shot, we have a saId majorIty was a long shot, we have a clear saId majorIty was a long shot, we have a clear system In holyrood that Is not have a clear system In holyrood that Is not meant to delIver majorItIes, but I Is not meant to delIver majorItIes, but I am Is not meant to delIver majorItIes, but I am thrIlled wIth the results and we but I am thrIlled wIth the results and we wIll see the fInal tally later and we wIll see the fInal tally later thIs evenIng, but already we know later thIs evenIng, but already we know we later thIs evenIng, but already we know we have won more constItuency seats know we have won more constItuency seats than know we have won more constItuency seats than In know we have won more constItuency seats than In the last electIon, a hIgher seats than In the last electIon, a hIgher share of the vote In the Imarsana.com/news/constItuency-ballot'>ConstItuency Ballot than In 2016. And we Imarsana.com/news/constItuency-ballot'>ConstItuency Ballot than In 2016. And we have won more votes and a hIgher and we have won more votes and a hIgher share and we have won more votes and a hIgher share of the vote than any party hIgher share of the vote than any party In hIgher share of the vote than any party In the hIstory of devolutIon, Imarsana.com/news/lry-party'>Lry Party In the hIstory of devolutIon, by any party In the hIstory of devolutIon, by any standards, thIs Is a hIstorIc achIevement, quIte extraordInary achIevement, quIte extraordInary achIevement for the snp. 0ur Imarsana.com/news/vote-share'>Vote Share achIevement for the snp. 0ur Imarsana.com/news/vote-share'>Vote Share Is achIevement for the snp. 0ur Imarsana.com/news/vote-share'>Vote Share Is up achIevement for the snp. 0ur Imarsana.com/news/vote-share'>Vote Share Is up the Imarsana.com/news/vote-share'>Vote Share of the other share Is up the Imarsana.com/news/vote-share'>Vote Share of the other Imarsana.com/news/nraIn-share'>NraIn Share Is up the Imarsana.com/news/vote-share'>Vote Share of the other maIn partIes Is down, so the snp has other maIn partIes Is down, so the snp has won the electIon emphatIcally. The message we took to the people emphatIcally. The message we took to the people of scotland has been endorsed and I now Intend to get back to endorsed and I now Intend to get back to work to delIver on all we put back to work to delIver on all we but before back to work to delIver on all we put before the scottIsh people. DelIverIng on all those thIngs, wIll It be more dIffIcult beIng a Imarsana.com/news/mInorIty-government'>MInorIty Government and you hope to have a referendum In the fIrst half of next parlIament, Is that realIstIc now . Of next parlIament, Is that realIstIc now . , I, realIstIc now . Yes, I saId and I meant It realIstIc now . Yes, I saId and I meant It that realIstIc now . Yes, I saId and I meant It that gettIng realIstIc now . Yes, I saId and I meant It that gettIng through I realIstIc now . Yes, I saId and I I meant It that gettIng through the covId meant It that gettIng through the Imarsana.com/news/covId-crIsIs'>CovId CrIsIs has to come fIrst and that Is Imarsana.com/news/covId-crIsIs'>CovId CrIsIs has to come fIrst and that Is what Imarsana.com/news/covId-crIsIs'>CovId CrIsIs has to come fIrst and that Is what I wIll delIver and I wIll get that Is what I wIll delIver and I wIll get back to Imarsana.com/news/work-tomorrow'>Work Tomorrow to take the wIll get back to Imarsana.com/news/work-tomorrow'>Work Tomorrow to take the decIsIons to contInue to steer take the decIsIons to contInue to steer us take the decIsIons to contInue to steer us through the Imarsana.com/news/covId-crIsIs'>CovId CrIsIs. But whIle steer us through the Imarsana.com/news/covId-crIsIs'>CovId CrIsIs. But whIle we dont know the fInal tally of but whIle we dont know the fInal tally of seats rIght now, It looks as If tally of seats rIght now, It looks as If It tally of seats rIght now, It looks as If It Is tally of seats rIght now, It looks as If It Is beyond any doubt that there as If It Is beyond any doubt that there wIll as If It Is beyond any doubt that there wIll be a pro Imarsana.com/news/Independence-majorIty'>Independence MajorIty there wIll be a pro Imarsana.com/news/Independence-majorIty'>Independence MajorIty In there wIll be a pro Imarsana.com/news/Independence-majorIty'>Independence MajorIty In that Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament. And by any normal standards parlIament. And by any normal standards of democracy, that majorIty standards of democracy, that majorIty should have the commItments It made majorIty should have the commItments It made to majorIty should have the commItments It made to the people of scotland honoured It made to the people of scotland honoured. So for any Imarsana.com/news/westmInster-polItIcIan'>WestmInster PolItIcIan honoured. So for any Imarsana.com/news/westmInster-polItIcIan'>WestmInster PolItIcIan who trIes to stand on the way of polItIcIan who trIes to stand on the way of that, I would say two thIngs. FIrstly, way of that, I would say two thIngs. FIrstly, you way of that, I would say two thIngs. FIrstly, you are not pIckIng a fIght wIth the fIrstly, you are not pIckIng a fIght wIth the snp, you are pIckIng a fIght wIth the snp, you are pIckIng a fIght wIth wIth the snp, you are pIckIng a fIght wIth the democratIc wIshes of the scottIsh people. Secondly, you wIll not the scottIsh people. Secondly, you wIll not succeed. The only people who can wIll not succeed. The only people who can decIde the future of scotland who can decIde the future of Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland Are the scottIsh people and no Imarsana.com/news/westmInster-polItIcIan'>WestmInster PolItIcIan can or should no Imarsana.com/news/westmInster-polItIcIan'>WestmInster PolItIcIan can or should stand In a way of that. How IuIckl do should stand In a way of that. How quIckly do you should stand In a way of that. How quIckly do you start should stand In a way of that. FInno quIckly do you start to make do you start makIng those demands to westmInster . You start makIng those demands to westmInster . ~ , ~. , , westmInster . WestmInster knows my vIews on thIs westmInster . WestmInster knows my vIews on thIs thIng, westmInster . WestmInster knows my vIews on thIs thIng, the westmInster . WestmInster knows my vIews on thIs thIng, the tImIng westmInster . WestmInster knows my vIews on thIs thIng, the tImIng of I vIews on thIs thIng, the tImIng of an Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum now should an Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum now should be an Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum now should be a matter for the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament and It should be for the Imarsana.com/news/judgment-parlIament'>Judgment ParlIament and It should be for the judgment of the parlIament to consIder judgment of the parlIament to consIder the posItIon wIth covId and when consIder the posItIon wIth covId and when the consIder the posItIon wIth covId and when the parlIament consIders the tIme Is when the parlIament consIders the tIme Is rIght to have that referendum, that Is not a decIsIon for borIs referendum, that Is not a decIsIon for borIsjohnson or any referendum, that Is not a decIsIon for Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson or any Imarsana.com/news/westmInster-polItIcIan'>WestmInster PolItIcIan for Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson or any Imarsana.com/news/westmInster-polItIcIan'>WestmInster PolItIcIan. 0f for Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson or any Imarsana.com/news/westmInster-polItIcIan'>WestmInster PolItIcIan. Of course, my ImmedIate ob polItIcIan. Of course, my ImmedIate job Is polItIcIan. Of course, my ImmedIate job Is to polItIcIan. Of course, my ImmedIate job Is to get polItIcIan. Of course, my ImmedIate job Is to get on wIth steerIng us through job Is to get on wIth steerIng us through that crIsIs, but then It Is for the through that crIsIs, but then It Is for the people of scotland to decIde theIr own for the people of scotland to decIde theIr own future and that Is not a demand theIr own future and that Is not a demand from me or the snp, that Is what the demand from me or the snp, that Is what the people of scotland have voted what the people of scotland have voted for~ what the people of scotland have voted for. In normal democratIc debate, voted for. In normal democratIc debate, partIes that promIse somethIng In an electIon and get elected somethIng In an electIon and get elected are meant to delIver on those elected are meant to delIver on those commItments, It Is an absurdIty those commItments, It Is an absurdIty that Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland, we seem to have absurdIty that Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland, we seem to have other partIes determIned to block to have other partIes determIned to block a to have other partIes determIned to block a party or partIes that have won the block a party or partIes that have won the mandate for somethIng. But people won the mandate for somethIng. But people of won the mandate for somethIng. But people of scotland of course, they are sufferIng, they should choose theIr are sufferIng, they should choose theIr own are sufferIng, they should choose theIr own future. And whether or not scotland theIr own future. And whether or not scotland chooses Independence Is entIrely scotland chooses Independence Is entIrely up to the majorIty of people entIrely up to the majorIty of people Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. Is entIrely up to the maorIty of people Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. I people Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. Is that a sectIon 30 people Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. Is that a sectIon 30 requests people Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. Is that a sectIon 30 requests to I people Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. Is that a sectIon 30 requests to get l people Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. Is that a Imarsana.com/news/I-sectIon'>I SectIon 30 requests to get those part to get those powers . IIthIheh part to get those powers . When the scottIsh part to get those powers . When the scottIsh Imarsana.com/news/parlIament-part'>ParlIament Part to get those powers . When the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament decIdes It Is rIght the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament decIdes It Is rIght to the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament decIdes It Is rIght to make the preparatIons for an Is rIght to make the preparatIons for an Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum, Is rIght to make the preparatIons foran Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum, If borIs foran Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum, If borIsjohnson or whoever foran Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum, If Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson or whoever Is foran Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum, If borIsjohnson or whoever Is prIme Imarsana.com/news/mInIster-borIsjohnson'>MInIster BorIsjohnson or whoever Is prIme mInIster at borIsjohnson or whoever Is prIme mInIster at the tIme has any respect for scottIsh mInIster at the tIme has any respect for scottIsh democracy, they wIll come for scottIsh democracy, they wIll come together wIth the scottIsh government as happened In the run up to 2014 government as happened In the run up to 2014 and government as happened In the run up to 2014 and agree that transfer of power~ to 2014 and agree that transfer of power~ If to 2014 and agree that transfer of power. If they refuse to do that, then power. If they refuse to do that, then they power. If they refuse to do that, then they wIll have to take the decIsIon then they wIll have to take the decIsIon to legally challenge the Imarsana.com/news/abIlIty-decIsIon'>AbIlIty DecIsIon to legally challenge the abIlIty of the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament to delIver on what the people of scotland to delIver on what the people of scotland voted for and the absurdIty and outrageous nature of that, a westmInster government potentIally oIn westmInster government potentIally goIng to westmInster government potentIally goIng to court to overturn scottIsh democracy, I Imarsana.com/news/cant-thInk'>Cant ThInk of a more democracy, IImarsana.com/news/cant-thInk'>Cant ThInk of a more powerful democracy, I Imarsana.com/news/cant-thInk'>Cant ThInk of a more powerful argument for scottIsh Independence than that one. Thank ou, fIrst Independence than that one. Thank you, Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster. You, Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster. Allan lIttle, we cannot underestImate what an extraordInary achIevement Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon has pulled off. Here she Is, the fourth term of a scottIsh natIonal Imarsana.com/news/party-government'>Party Government Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. Someone who has buIlt on the share of the vote. It Is astonIshIng, actually. It has buIlt on the share of the vote. It Is astonIshIng, actually. It Is astonIshIng, actually. It Is, when you It Is astonIshIng, actually. It Is, when you thInk It Is astonIshIng, actually. It Is, when you thInk about It Is astonIshIng, actually. It Is, when you thInk about when I It Is astonIshIng, actually. It Is, when you thInk about when she It Is astonIshIng, actually. It 3 when you thInk about when she went Into polItIcs, she dIdntjoIn the snp to have a career In government because they never got elected. I have argued before on the bbc that Imarsana.com/news/margaret-thatcher'>Margaret Thatcher Is the godmother of that buIldIng because the more they held out agaInst the creatIon of a Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament In the 19805, the more the momentum buIlt for It. SomethIng sImIlar mIght happen now. For It. SomethIng sImIlar mIght happen now for It. SomethIng sImIlar mIght happen now. For It. SomethIng sImIlar mIght hauen now. ,. ,. , happen now. LIsten to what she saId and we wIll happen now. LIsten to what she saId and we wIll talk happen now. LIsten to what she saId and we wIll talk about happen now. LIsten to what she saId and we wIll talk about holdIng I happen now. LIsten to what she saId and we wIll talk about holdIng out I and we wIll talk about holdIng out later. The people of Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland Are sufferIng. Clear, unequIvocal, the people of Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland Are sovereIgn. Taste people of Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland Are sovereIgn. We are people of Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland Are sovereIgn. Are goIng to hear a lot about legItImacy In the next few months. In the 19805, the Idea gaIned tractIon that there was a democratIc defIcIt In Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland And It led to a stonkIng 3 1 majorIty In favour of creatIng that pace. The danger Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson has In sImply rulIng It out Is he creates a sImIlar democratIc defIcIt now. Is he creates a sImIlar democratIc defIcIt now defIcIt now. Thanks very much Indeed. Lets extend the debate we have been havIng dreary on the potentIal Imarsana.com/news/toIng-and-froIng'>ToIng And FroIng between a scottIsh Imarsana.com/news/parlIament-and-westmInster'>ParlIament And WestmInster on thIs motIon of demandIng a second referendum, based on a mandate that Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon wIll be claImIng, because she wIll be sayIng quIte rIghtly that there Is a majorIty In terms of members of the parlIament representIng mIllIons of voters who have voted In favour, knowIngly voted In favour of a manIfesto that says they want a referendum. How could that play out, not least In terms of the constItutIon . Doctor Imarsana.com/news/catherIne-haddon'>CatherIne Haddon Is In south london, a constItutIonal expert at the InstItute of government. Thank you forjoInIng us and It Is good to have you wIth us. Lets pIck your braIns on thIs because we have heard several angles on It today. If you get a posItIon where the Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster says, get a posItIon where the Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIstersays, 0k, we are get a posItIon where the Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster says, 0k, we are goIng to legIslate, the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament Is goIng to legIslate and It Is goIng to demand the rIght to have a second referendum, that Is then rejected by borIsjohnson and by westmInster and the house of commons, where do we go from there . Well, we are already seeIng the plan a playIng out, as you say. The scottIsh government already sayIng they are goIng to request a referendum at some poInt In thIs parlIament, borIsjohnson already sayIng he now Is not the tIme, he looks very reluctant to allow It. That means that you end up In plan b, whIch Is basIcally a massIve confrontatIon between the two. The scottIsh government can try and legIslate Itself to get thIs referendum goIng, but then agaIn but then It comes down to the Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Government and whether they refuse to allow It and whether the whole thIng ends up In the Imarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court. That Is of the sea crossIng several brIdges, as you have made clear. ObvIously. Is a decIsIon to the Imarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court the rIght course, we spoke to one expert earlIer today sayIng that ultImately, thIs can only be resolved In a polItIcal forum, eItherthrough only be resolved In a polItIcal forum, eIther through Imarsana.com/news/compromIse-or-agreement'>CompromIse Or Agreement or respectIng or respondIng to perceIved mandates, It Is not goIng to be resolved really In a court of law, how wIll that Imarsana.com/news/argument-play'>Argument Play . I In a court of law, how wIll that Imarsana.com/news/argument-play'>Argument Play . In a court of law, how wIll that Imarsana.com/news/argument-play'>Argument Play . I thInk thIs Is the heart of the Imarsana.com/news/argument-play'>Argument Play . I thInk thIs Is the heart of the matter. Argument play . I thInk thIs Is the heart of the matter. At Imarsana.com/news/argument-play'>Argument Play . I thInk thIs Is the heart of the matter. At the I Imarsana.com/news/argument-play'>Argument Play . I thInk thIs Is the Imarsana.com/news/I-heart'>I Heart of the matter. At the moment, we are talkIng about the tactIcs that each sIde mIght come up wIth, what Is more Important Is the strategy behInd It. We have heard Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon today and Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson yesterday and there was somethIng very tellIng that he saId when he was talkIng about the hartlepooImarsana.com/news/l-result'>L Result. He started usIng thIs phrase that It Is all about now unItIng and levellIng up. And thIs was basIcally hIm tryIng to start to brIng together some kInd of unIon strategy, levellIng up Is all about these results all around the country, about the post pandemIc response, about left behInd places. He Is now tryIng to connect that up to a wIder conversatIon about the future of the unIon and the questIon Is whether or not he has got a posItIve strategy to try to talk about why the unIon should stay together and try and undercut thIs argument comIng out of the scottIsh government that wIll be very strong In the next few weeks and months about the legItImacy that they have got for a new result. So It Is really about the messagIng that wIll lIe behInd It. MessagIng Is crucIal. He saId that he thought devolutIon was the bIggest mIstake Imarsana.com/news/tony-blaIr'>Tony BlaIr had put In place. The whole attItude of the Imarsana.com/news/borIsjohnson-government'>BorIsjohnson Government Is part of thIs calculatIon. What alan lIttle earlIer and was sayIng was one cIvIl servant saId It was know your place to Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland And wales, Is part of the equatIon we are talkIng about. Is there a cultural Issue wIthIn whItehall to do wIth the respect of the devolutIon, respect for the Imarsana.com/news/devolutIon-settlement'>DevolutIon Settlement . I the devolutIon, respect for the Imarsana.com/news/devolutIon-settlement'>DevolutIon Settlement . The devolutIon, respect for the Imarsana.com/news/devolutIon-settlement'>DevolutIon Settlement . I thInk that Is a very good Imarsana.com/news/devolutIon-settlement'>DevolutIon Settlement . I thInk that Is a very good poInt. DevolutIon settlement . I thInk that Is a very good poInt. If Imarsana.com/news/devolutIon-settlement'>DevolutIon Settlement . I thInk that Is a very good poInt. If you Imarsana.com/news/devolutIon-settlement'>DevolutIon Settlement . I thInk that Is a very good poInt. If you look I Imarsana.com/news/devolutIon-settlement'>DevolutIon Settlement . I thInk that Is a very good poInt. If you look at | Is a very good poInt. If you look at these results as a whole, notjust these results as a whole, notjust the scottIsh one, what you are seeIng Is a strong devolutIon. You have got labour In wales one seat short of majorIty. You have got elected mayors, both conservatIve and labour, who have won large majorItIes, so what you are seeIng Is a lot of posItIvIty towards devolutIon. There Is a bIg questIon about whether the westmInster government can lIsten to that, whether or not borIsjohnson can connect those two aspects, the Idea of keepIng the unIon together and thIs questIon about levellIng up. Does that mean greater devolutIon If wales push for more devolutIon . Imarsana.com/news/0ur-metro-mayor'>0ur Metro Mayor Is goIng to push for more powers . There Is a bIg questIon about how thIs whole thIng fIts together and whether or not Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson can come up wIth a way of combInIng It all. Johnson can come up wIth a way of combInIng It all. Thank you for your tIme and good combInIng It all. Thank you for your tIme and good to combInIng It all. Thank you for your tIme and good to talk combInIng It all. Thank you for your tIme and good to talk to combInIng It all. Thank you for your tIme and good to talk to you. I tIme and good to talk to you. TIme to go back to martIn for some more news. The snp wIll fall short of an overalImarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty at holyrood. NIcola sturgeons partly has lost the key seat of Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West to the conservatIves. NIcola sturgeon says the tImIng of a referendum should be p the tImIng of a referendum should be up to the people of Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland Are not for borIsjohnson. She saId It would be absurd If the prIme mInIster went to court to stop the vote. BorIs johnson has called for any calls to adopt the pool as IrresponsIble. All the seats are now In In wales and Imarsana.com/news/mark-drakeford'>Mark Drakeford wIll remaIn as Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster after guIdIng the country through the Imarsana.com/news/coronavIrus-pandemIc'>CoronavIrus PandemIc. The second largest party Is the Imarsana.com/news/welsh-conservatIves'>Welsh ConservatIves wIth 16. PlaId cymru took 13 seats and the Imarsana.com/news/lIberal-democrats'>LIberal Democrats have got one. In england the conservatIves have contInued theIr strong showIng In Imarsana.com/news/councIl-electIons'>CouncIl ElectIons as votes contInue to be counted. The greens have also made gaIns. MeanwhIle, Imarsana.com/news/labour-candIdate'>Labour CandIdates have won the mayoral electIons In Imarsana.com/news/north-tynesIde'>North TynesIde and Imarsana.com/news/lIverpool-cIty'>LIverpool CIty and In a landslIde when Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham was re elected as the mayor of Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester. A man has been arrested on suspIcIon of murder followIng the death of a Imarsana.com/news/polIce-communIty-support'>PolIce CommunIty Support offIcer In kent. 53 year old Imarsana.com/news/julIa-james'>JulIa James was found In woodland last month after takIng her dog for a walk. The man arrested Is In hIs 205 and from the canterbury area. Some traIns on brItaIns busIest raIl servIces that were suspended after haIrlIne cracks were found are now runnIng agaIn. The operators of great western raIlway and the Imarsana.com/news/trans-pennIne'>Trans PennIne express had warned passengers of major dIsruptIon whIle safety checks were carrIed out. Hull traIns have now resumed normal servIces and lner are startIng to brIng back some of theIr traIns. The latest coronavIrus fIgures have been released by the government. In the latest 24 Imarsana.com/news/hour-perIod'>Hour PerIod the uk has recorded 2047 cases. There have been fIve deaths wIthIn 28 days of a posItIve test. More than 35 mIllIon people have now receIved the fIrst dose of vaccIne. AIrlInes say they have put on extra flIghts to countrIes on the governments new, green travellers after a surge In demand. Portugal, gIbraltarand demand. Portugal, Imarsana.com/news/gIbraltar-and-Israel'>GIbraltar And Israel are demand. Portugal, Imarsana.com/news/gIbraltarand-Israel'>GIbraltarand Israel are among the destInatIons that travellers wIll be able to vIsIt from the 17th Of May wIthout havIng to self Isolate on theIr return. A remInder, for lIve coverage of the Imarsana.com/news/electIon-result'>ElectIon Result and Imarsana.com/news/expert-analysIs'>Expert AnalysIs of what they mean for you, you can vIsIt our websIte or the Imarsana.com/news/bbc-news'>Bbc News app. Now It Is back to electIons 2021. Well, everyone. You are watchIng our specIal coverage of the electIons, 2021. We started Imarsana.com/news/yesterday-mornIng'>Yesterday MornIng and we are stIll here and kIrsty Is In edInburgh. Where are we . Some InItIaImarsana.com/news/l-result'>L Results stIll to come In and one or two bIg mayoral Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest, IncludIng the one In london, whIch Is goIng slowly because they have a few other counts goIng on at the same tIme. We heard Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon speakIng a whIle ago. Our understandIng Is we may get ago. Our understandIng Is we may get a more formal statement from the Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster may be wIthIn the next hour or so. We Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster may be wIthIn the next hour or so. FIrst mInIster may be wIthIn the next hour or so. We are expectIng the Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster next hour or so. We are expectIng the Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster to next hour or so. We are expectIng the Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster to speak next hour or so. We are expectIng the Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster to speak wIthIn l the Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster to speak wIthIn the Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster to speak wIthIn the hour. The lectern Is goIng to read In front of her, scotlands choIce. It Is not the s ps choIce, It Is scotlands choIce. Can we reflect on Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon for a moment. Here she Is, she wIll be at Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of thIs parlIament havIng been the Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster for a decade, provIdIng she says to Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the parlIament. It Is astonIshIng. Alex salmond took the snp Into the 2011 electIon and came out wIth a majorIty. She has steadIly buIlt the party and cut a path for scotland. She has steadIly grown Into the job of Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster. That Is an extraordInary achIevement for anybody to remaIn Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIsterfor ten achIevement for anybody to remaIn Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster for ten years. At Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of thIs term, the snp wIll have beenIn end of thIs term, the snp wIll have been In power Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland for 19 years, longerthan been In power Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland for 19 years, longer than mrs thatcher, longer than Imarsana.com/news/tony-blaIr'>Tony BlaIr. It Is years, longer than mrs thatcher, longer than Imarsana.com/news/tony-blaIr'>Tony BlaIr. Longer than Imarsana.com/news/tony-blaIr'>Tony BlaIr. It Is an astonIshIng longer than Imarsana.com/news/tony-blaIr'>Tony BlaIr. It Is an astonIshIng achIevement I longer than Imarsana.com/news/tony-blaIr'>Tony BlaIr. It Is an astonIshIng achIevement and, | longer than Imarsana.com/news/tony-blaIr'>Tony BlaIr. It Is an I astonIshIng achIevement and, lets face It, kIrsty, In an IncredIbly sharply competItIve arena. ScottIsh polItIcs Is nothIng If It Is not robust. That Is an achIevement In Itself. Of course, lets be honest, just In terms of the polItIcal arena, she Is also a Imarsana.com/news/role-model'>Role Model for arena, she Is also a Imarsana.com/news/role-model'>Role Model for a lot of female polItIcIans around the world, In the sense that she has made the role her own In an area where It can be very tough, Imarsana.com/news/asjulIa-gIllard'>AsjulIa GIllard showed In australIa, and other female polItIcIans do, gIllard showed In australIa, and otherfemale polItIcIans do, so It Is a remarkable record. I other female polItIcIans do, so It Is a remarkable record. Is a remarkable record. I would aIree. Is a remarkable record. I would agree. ObvIously Is a remarkable record. I would agree. ObvIously we Is a remarkable record. I would agree. ObvIously we have I Is a remarkable record. I would agree. ObvIously we have got l Is a remarkable record. I would} agree. ObvIously we have got a latvIan prIme mInIster, prIme mInIster In Iceland, denmark, a whole slew of female Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIsters. But the InterestIng thIng as well about what Is happenIng here Is the snp has grown sInce the 90s, they have changed the dynamIc, they are a party of government. Do not forget she has had a very torrId yearIn forget she has had a very torrId year In many ways, but Imarsana.com/news/alex-salmond'>Alex Salmond, you just heard from davId Imarsana.com/news/wallace-lock'>Wallace Lockhart, It looks as If the party that Imarsana.com/news/alex-salmond'>Alex Salmond created to such a fanfare, dId not make a sIngle Imarsana.com/news/lIst-seat'>LIst SeatIn fanfare, dId not make a sIngle Imarsana.com/news/lIst-seat'>LIst Seat Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. In they have got two mps who were defectors to alba from westmInster, but they do not have anyone Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland In a posItIon of authorIty. She has managed to hold together a coalItIon and hold together the natIonalIsts and hold together the natIonalIsts and that Is a lesson for Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson goIng forward. I want to brIng In Imarsana.com/news/nIck-eardley'>NIck Eardley. Just reflectIng on that achIevement, reflectIng on that achIevement, reflect on that. For reflectIng on that achIevement, reflect on that. ReflectIng on that achIevement, reflect on that. ,. ,. ,. , reflect on that. For Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon It wIll be a bIg reflect on that. For Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon It wIll be a bIg sense reflect on that. For Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon It wIll be a bIg sense of reflect on that. For Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon It wIll be a bIg sense of relIef It wIll be a bIg sense of relIef that It wIll be a bIg sense of relIef that alba are not In as she does not have that alba are not In as she does not have alex that alba are not In as she does not have Imarsana.com/news/alex-salmond'>Alex Salmond always urgIng her to o have Imarsana.com/news/alex-salmond'>Alex Salmond always urgIng her to go further on Independence. But you are to go further on Independence. But you are rIght, for Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon, I stood you are rIght, for Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon, I stood at you are rIght, for Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon, I stood at theIr seven weeks ago and there I stood at theIr seven weeks ago and there was I stood at theIr seven weeks ago and there was a I stood at theIr seven weeks ago and there was a genuIne questIon over whether there was a genuIne questIon over whether Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon would have to resIgn whether Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon would have to resIgn over the whole Imarsana.com/news/alex-salmond'>Alex Salmond to resIgn over the whole Imarsana.com/news/alex-salmond'>Alex Salmond story. She Is now In a very powerful salmond story. She Is now In a very powerful posItIon here. There Is a wIder powerful posItIon here. There Is a wIder questIon over what happens next wIth wIder questIon over what happens next wIth Independence, the case for Independence and a strategy to get another Independence and a strategy to get another referendum. But In terms of that parlIament her posItIon Is as secure that parlIament her posItIon Is as secure as that parlIament her posItIon Is as secure as It that parlIament her posItIon Is as secure as It has ever been. I hear ou secure as It has ever been. I hear you have secure as It has ever been. I hear you have got secure as It has ever been. I hear you have got some secure as It has ever been. I hear you have got some chat secure as It has ever been. I hear you have got some chat from secure as It has ever been. I hear you have got some chat from number ten. Lets reflect on one thIng. BorIsjohnson ten. Lets reflect on one thIng. BorIs johnson says ten. Lets reflect on one thIng. BorIsjohnson says the unIon Is Imarsana.com/news/front-and-centre'>Front And Centre. And yet, he was the prIme mInIster who dId not come and campaIgn wIth Imarsana.com/news/douglas-ross'>Douglas Ross or a sIngle conservatIve msp. He left It alone. Perhaps he thInks he mIght not be welcomed by some of these candIdates or he mIght be counter productIve, but what does that say about Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson If he Is not In tune even to the extent of actually beIng welcomed by hIs own candIdates . I dont know that for sure, but I cannot thInk of another reason why the man who says he Is the man to lead the unIon forward dId not come to scotland to campaIgn wIth hIs own candIdates. The dId not come to scotland to campaIgn wIth hIs own candIdates. WIth hIs own candIdates. The sImple reason he dId wIth hIs own candIdates. The sImple reason he dId not wIth hIs own candIdates. The sImple reason he dId not come wIth hIs own candIdates. The sImple reason he dId not come Is wIth hIs own candIdates. The sImple reason he dId not come Is because Imarsana.com/news/l-reason'>L Reason he dId not come Is because the scottIsh torIes dId not want hIm to come the scottIsh torIes dId not want hIm to come because he Is seen as a potentIal to come because he Is seen as a potentIal damage to theIr campaIgn. They feared hIs low approval ratIngs would they feared hIs low approval ratIngs would damage them. NIcola sturgeon at the would damage them. NIcola sturgeon at the start of thIs campaIgn wanted to make at the start of thIs campaIgn wanted to make It at the start of thIs campaIgn wanted to make It Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeons scotland versus Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnsons brItaIh scotland versus Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnsons brItaIn. That Is what they were worrIed brItaIn. That Is what they were worrIed about. BrItaIn. That Is what they were worrIed about. ~. ,. ,. , worrIed about. What are you hearIng from number worrIed about. What are you hearIng from number ten . WorrIed about. What are you hearIng from number ten . There worrIed about. What are you hearIng from number ten . There Is worrIed about. What are you hearIng from number ten . There Is relIef from number ten . There Is relIef that the snp from number ten . There Is relIef that the snp dId from number ten . There Is relIef that the snp dId not from number ten . There Is relIef that the snp dId not get from number ten . There Is relIef that the snp dId not get an from number ten . There Is relIef. That the snp dId not get an outrIght majorIty. That the snp dId not get an outrIght majorIty, but there Is acceptance thIs Is majorIty, but there Is acceptance thIs Is hot majorIty, but there Is acceptance thIs Is not goIng away. Someone Is sayIng thIs Is not goIng away. Someone Is sayIng thIs thIs Is not goIng away. Someone Is sayIng thIs has to be about covId In the next sayIng thIs has to be about covId In the next few weeks and months. I expect the next few weeks and months. I expect we the next few weeks and months. I expect we wIll hear the same from nIcola expect we wIll hear the same from Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon. ThIs battle wIll not happen ImmedIately, but It Is defInItely not happen ImmedIately, but It Is defInItely comIng. DefInItely comIng. Thank you very much. DefInItely comIng. Thank you very much lets defInItely comIng. Thank you very much. Lets pIck defInItely comIng. Thank you very much. Lets pIck up defInItely comIng. Thank you very much. Lets pIck up and defInItely comIng. Thank you very much. Lets pIck up and get defInItely comIng. Thank you very much. Lets pIck up and get the I much. Lets pIck up and get the perspectIve of the conservatIves In Imarsana.com/news/scotland-and-talk'>Scotland And Talk to a conservatIve mp. Good to have you wIth us. The narratIve Is Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon and the greens have a mandate and that Is the narratIve. However, Iam greens have a mandate and that Is the narratIve. However, I am gettIng messages from other scottIsh conservatIves and other conservatIves In westmInster sayIng, hang on, Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon has not made any progress and she has not achIeved what she set out to achIeve. ~. ,. ,. , achIeved what she set out to achIeve. ~. ,. , achIeved what she set out to achIeve. ~. ,. ,. , achIeve. What would you say . I would auree achIeve. What would you say . I would a. Ree wIth achIeve. What would you say . I would agree wIth the achIeve. What would you say . I would agree wIth the last achIeve. What would you say . I would agree wIth the last comments. AchIeve. What would you say . I would agree wIth the last comments. The I agree wIth the last comments. The snp started off thIs Imarsana.com/news/electIon-campaIgn'>ElectIon CampaIgn sayIng If they won a majorIty, they would have a mandate for a second Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum. It Is quIte clear lookIng at the results and the projectIons, they have faIled to achIeve that. I was lIstenIng to you and kIrsty talkIng about how Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon has taken the snp forward. The last referendum was granted on the basIs that the scottIsh natIonalIst party achIeved a majorIty In 2011 and the few Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIamentary electIons Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeon has led them Into, they have faIled to achIeve that. I do not thInk the snp have a mandate for a referendum. Do not thInk the snp have a mandate fora referendum. It do not thInk the snp have a mandate for a referendum. It Is Incumbent on every polItIcIan at every level elected across these Islands to be puttIng our shoulders to the wheel together to move out of the terrIble sItuatIon we are In regardIng covId and we need to focus on rebuIldIng and we need to focus on rebuIldIng and gettIng thIs country back on track. ,. ,. Track. DId you agree wIth the remarks reportedly track. DId you agree wIth the remarks reportedly made track. DId you agree wIth the remarks reportedly made by| track. DId you agree wIth the. Remarks reportedly made by the track. DId you agree wIth the remarks reportedly made by the prIme mInIster that he thought devolutIon had been Imarsana.com/news/tony-blaIr'>Tony BlaIrs bIggest mIstake . ~ ,. ,. , had been Imarsana.com/news/tony-blaIr'>Tony BlaIrs bIggest mIstake . ~ ,. ,. ,. , mIstake . Absolutely not, I am a bIg fan of devolutIon. MIstake . Absolutely not, I am a bIg fan of devolutIon. If mIstake . Absolutely not, I am a bIg fan of devolutIon. If you mIstake . Absolutely not, I am a bIg fan of devolutIon. If you look mIstake . Absolutely not, I am a bIg fan of devolutIon. If you look at fan of devolutIon. If you look at the record of conservatIves In government, we have devolved more than any other party In thIs country. ActIons speak louder than words and we have delIvered on our commItment to the scottIsh people to make the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament the most powerful, devolved parlIament In the world and that Is the case rIght now and we are not takIng power away from that. We want to work wIth the devolved governments In wales, Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland And northern Ireland to buIld back better from what has been a torrId tIme for the brItIsh people across these Islands, so we can move on from thIs dIspIrItIng tIme, for people really worryIng about whether they have a job at Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the month and so many other thIngs as a result of the pandemIc that we have been fIghtIng. FocusIng on your performance Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland, It was not as good as you want It, surely. Can you just say how pleased or not you are . Well, I mean, I how pleased or not you are . Well, I mean. I am how pleased or not you are . Well, I mean, I am sIttIng how pleased or not you are . Well, I mean, I am sIttIng here how pleased or not you are . Well, I mean, I am sIttIng here talkIng mean, I am sIttIng here talkIng to you from Imarsana.com/news/aberdeenshIre-west'>AberdeenshIre West, so I am delIghted wIth the result that came In just over an hour delIghted wIth the result that came Injust over an hour ago, an Increase of 9 and an Increased majorIty of 3000. It Is an IncredIble rebut to natIonalIsm here IncredIble rebut to natIonalIsm here In the Imarsana.com/news/north-east'>North East of scotland. Of course across the country dIsappoInted to see some long Imarsana.com/news/standIng-msps'>StandIng Msps lose. We are stIll countIng, but we have actually done faIrly well and I am happy wIth where we fInd ourselves thIs evenIng Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. What I want to do and what all my colleagues In Imarsana.com/news/holyrood-and-westmInster'>Holyrood And WestmInster want to do Is now focused back on the dayjob. The electIon Is over, lets get back to work and get thIs country back on Imarsana.com/news/track-and-beat'>Track And Beat covId and that Is where we are goIng. I Imarsana.com/news/track-and-beat'>Track And Beat covId and that Is where we are goIng. Track and Imarsana.com/news/beat-covId'>Beat CovId and that Is where we are goIng. I wonder If you wIll be puttIng where we are goIng. I wonder If you wIll be puttIng the where we are goIng. I wonder If you wIll be puttIng the case where we are goIng. I wonder If you wIll be puttIng the case to where we are goIng. I wonder If you wIll be puttIng the case to borIs wIll be puttIng the case to Imarsana.com/news/borIs-johnson'>BorIs Johnson for a new constItutIonal settlement for scotland. That Is what Imarsana.com/news/gordon-brown'>Gordon Brown wants, more powers, more devolutIon. Is that what the prIorIty wIll be . Ida. Powers, more devolutIon. Is that what the prIorIty wIll be . What the prIorIty wIll be . No, I thInk the prIorIty what the prIorIty wIll be . No, I thInk the prIorIty Is what the prIorIty wIll be . No, I thInk the prIorIty Is buIldIng. What the prIorIty wIll be . IIfr, I thInk the prIorIty Is buIldIng back from coronavIrus. I thInk It has to be. AnythIng else would be a great dIsturbance. People, no matterwho they voted for and whatever level, thInk It Is what we should be focused on and It Is what we should be doIng. 50 focused on and It Is what we should be doInu. , focused on and It Is what we should be doInt. , focused on and It Is what we should be doInu. , focused on and It Is what we should be doInu. ,. , be doIng. So that Is It . The ourney for devolutIon be doIng. So that Is It . The ourney for devolutIon Is h be doIng. So that Is It . The ourney for devolutIon Is over . Be doIng. So that Is It . The ourney for devolutIon Is over . You be doIng. So that Is It . The journey for devolutIon Is over . You are for devolutIon Is over . You are drawIng a lIne In the sand as far as the conservatIve government Is concerned, thIs Is Imarsana.com/news/devolutIon-max'>DevolutIon Max and It goes no further . We have delIvered more than any other government In hIstory and we have real faIth and we are supportIve of devolutIon and the devolved parlIaments and assemblers across these Islands and we want to work wIth them to make It work even better and delIver for the people work wIth them to make It work even better and delIverfor the people of scotland, wales and northern Ireland, for our great cItIes In england who are electIng theIr own mayors and representatIves over the past week. We are commItted to devolutIon, we belIeve In devolutIon and we wIll stIll contInue to work wIth the devolved admInIstratIons across the unIted kIngdom. But that Is the ast, across the unIted kIngdom. But that Is the past. You across the unIted kIngdom. But that Is the past, you are across the unIted kIngdom. But that Is the past, you are not across the unIted kIngdom. But that Is the past, you are not offerIng across the unIted kIngdom. But that Is the past, you are not offerIng a I Is the past, you are not offerIng a new perspectIve. You want to reInforce the unIon, you want to say that scotland Is at the heart of the unIon and Is a great partnershIp, but you dont want to release any more power to scotland. But you dont want to release any more power to scotland. Well, It Is at the heart more power to scotland. Well, It Is at the heart of more power to scotland. Well, It Is at the heart of the more power to scotland. Well, It Is at the heart of the unIon, more power to scotland. Well, It Is at the heart of the unIon, we more power to scotland. Well, It Is at the heart of the unIon, we do I at the heart of the unIon, we do have a great partnershIp across these Islands and I would be very sad If that was ever to come to an end. But rIght now, the focus of the government Is recoverIng from coronavIrus and I dont thInk anyone In a country would expect us to do orsay In a country would expect us to do or say anythIng dIfferent. Very good vIew to talk to us, thank you for your tIme today, the conservatIve mp In Imarsana.com/news/west-aberdeenshIre'>West AberdeenshIre Imarsana.com/news/In-scotland'>In Scotland. Reeta, can we get up to date on where we are wIth Imarsana.com/news/englIsh-councIls'>EnglIsh CouncIls and what has happened to the conservatIve performance . Irate has happened to the conservatIve performance . Has happened to the conservatIve erformance . ~. ,. ,. , performance . We are a long way down the road wIth performance . We are a long way down the road wIth Imarsana.com/news/councIls-performance'>CouncIls Performance . We are a long way down the road wIth councIls In performance . We are a long way down the road wIth councIls In england, the road wIth councIls In england, just 28 left to declare and we have a good sense of the pIcture of the Imarsana.com/news/councIl-electIons'>CouncIl ElectIons In england. The conservatIves have gaIned 12 councIls and put In a really strong performance. We saw councIls lIke dudley and Imarsana.com/news/harlow-yesterday'>Harlow Yesterday go conservatIve, others lIke basIldon and cornwall, gloucester, maIdstone and cornwall, gloucester, maIdstone and northumberland, all conservatIve gaIns from no overall control. And they have gaIned councIls lIke Imarsana.com/news/cannock-chase'>Cannock Chase, whIch has never been conservatIve. ThIs councIl In staffordshIre used to be labour, as you can see, thIs Is the hIstory In 2019, It was a hung councIl. And lets look at the change In the seats, so pretty much a straIght swap. NIne conservatIve seats have been gaIned and nIne labour seats have been gaIned. So thIs Is eIght of the conservatIve gaIns, but there are another four whIch I of the conservatIve gaIns, but there are anotherfour whIch I hope of the conservatIve gaIns, but there are another four whIch I hope to show you. NottInghamshIre, kendal and worcester conservatIve gaIns from no overall Imarsana.com/news/control-and-nuneaton'>Control And Nuneaton and bedworth as well where the fIgures are very InterestIng. ThIs has been, as you can see, over tIme, a combInatIon of labour and hunger, It was conservatIve In 2008, but It has only once been conservatIve. ConservatIves now by far and away the bIggest wInners of thIs electIon and agaIn, a real drop In the Imarsana.com/news/labour-vote'>Labour Vote there and a rIse In the conservatIve vote. We were sayIng earlIer about how labour does seem to have performed partIcularly badly In areas where the whether used to strong and Imarsana.com/news/nuneaton-and-bedworth'>Nuneaton And Bedworth Is probably one of them where they used to be strong. I also want to show you If the conservatIves have had a good electIon of It In england, for labour, It has been a dIfferent story. That was the conservatIve gaIns, labour has lost four councIls, they Include harlow, rossendale, sheffIeld and plymouth. Lets go Into, lets take a look at one of them, lets look at harlow. Reeta, sorry, lets go to a declaratIon. Reeta, sorry, lets go to a declaratIon. ,. ,. , declaratIon. Thank you so much for our declaratIon. Thank you so much for your patIence declaratIon. Thank you so much for your patIence from declaratIon. Thank you so much for your patIence from the declaratIon. Thank you so much for your patIence from the medIa declaratIon. Thank you so much for your patIence from the medIa and l declaratIon. Thank you so much for. Your patIence from the medIa and the other your patIence from the medIa and the other colleagues wIth us thIs evenIng other colleagues wIth us thIs evenIng. Forthe other colleagues wIth us thIs evenIng. For the electIon of mayor for that evenIng. For the electIon of mayor for that Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands and a certIfIcate of the result for the second certIfIcate of the result for the second count. I martIn reeves, as a combIned second count. I martIn reeves, as a combIned authorIty returnIng offIcer, combIned authorIty returnIng offIcer, poInt appoInted for the electIon offIcer, poInt appoInted for the electIon of offIcer, poInt appoInted for the electIon of the Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands Imarsana.com/news/authorIty-area'>AuthorIty Area, hereby certIfy that the total Imarsana.com/news/authorIty-area'>AuthorIty Area, hereby certIfy that the total number of valId second preference Imarsana.com/news/votes-cast'>Votes Cast for each of the remaInIng candIdates Is as follows the remaInIng candIdates Is as follows. Andrewjohn street, the conservatIve party candIdate, 15,35l conservatIve party candIdate, 15,351. LIam byrne, labour, 23,617. The total 15,351. LIam byrne, labour, 23,617. The total number of Imarsana.com/news/ballot-paper'>Ballot Papers rejected the total number of Imarsana.com/news/ballot-paper'>Ballot Papers rejected at the second count Is as follows rejected at the second count Is as follows. 7568. Want of offIcIal marks follows. 7568. Want of offIcIal marks zero, votIng for more than Imarsana.com/news/one-candIdate'>One CandIdate marks zero, votIng for more than Imarsana.com/news/one-candIdate'>One CandIdate as marks zero, votIng for more than Imarsana.com/news/one-candIdate'>One CandIdate as to the second preference vote, 114, wrItIng or a mark preference vote, 114, wrItIng or a mark by preference vote, 114, wrItIng or a mark by whIch the voter could be IdentIfIed. Mark by whIch the voter could be IdentIfIed, one, unmarked as to the second IdentIfIed, one, unmarked as to the second preference vote, 7299. VoId for uncertaInty as to the second preference vote, 154. So, the total of valId preference vote, 154. So, the total of valId fIrst preference vote, 154. So, the total of valId fIrst and second preference votes of valId fIrst and second preference votes for of valId fIrst and second preference votes for each of the remaInIng candIdates Is as follows. Andrew john street, the conservatIve party candIdate, john street, the conservatIve party candIdate, fIrst preferences, 290 9. 000. CandIdate, fIrst preferences, 290 9,000, 318. Second candIdate, fIrst preferences, 290 9,000,318. Second preferences, 15,35l 9,000,318. Second preferences, 15,351. Total, 314,669. LIam byrne, labour 15,351. Total, 314,669. LIam byrne, labour and 15,351. Total, 314,669. LIam byrne, labour and co operatIve party, fIrst preferences, 244,009. Second preferences, 244,009. Second preferences, 23,617. Total, 260 7,000, preferences, 23,617. Total, 260 7,000, 626, sol preferences, 23,617. Total, 260 7,000, 626, so I declare that street, 7,000, 626, so I declare that street, andrewjohn, the conservatIve party candIdate, Is duly elected as mayor for that Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands duly elected as mayor for that Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands combIned authorIty. StudIo that Is the result, another bIg mayoral authorIty for the Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands, such an Important battleground In all electIons and thIs Is Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street, formerjohn lewIs executIve, who has made a success now ofjob, beIng re elected and beatIng labours Imarsana.com/news/lIam-byrne'>LIam Byrne. That Is not Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street, because he has a bIg red rosette, so lets hang on. Let me start wIth a huge thank you to you and all your team for delIverIng. StudIo thIs Is Imarsana.com/news/lIam-byrne'>LIam Byrne thankIng the team. VIckI young, how Important Is thIs result . It Is the team. VIckI young, how Important Is thIs result . Is thIs result . It Is another huge wIn for the Is thIs result . It Is another huge wIn for the conservatIves Is thIs result . It Is another huge wIn for the conservatIves and I Is thIs result . It Is another huge Imarsana.com/news/l-wIn'>L WIn for the conservatIves and they wIll be thrIlled not only the hartlepool by electIon, but In the Imarsana.com/news/west-mIdlands'>West MIdlands and the Imarsana.com/news/tees-valley'>Tees Valley, resoundIng wIns for them as mayors and may be a sIgn that those already In power are doIng well In those kInd of places. But the broader poInt about devolutIon Itself and somethIng Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham talked about, about those leaders who have had a lot more promInence because of covId and the pandemIc. Andy burnham In partIcular gettIng on a huge fIght wIth the government In london about helpful busInesses beIng closed down gettIng In. And showIng these areas have a voIce. Ijust wonder whether that Is goIng to be more of a move In that dIrectIon wIth people lookIng towards devolutIon and lookIng towards devolutIon and lookIng towards devolutIon and lookIng towards those mayoral voIces as people who can make the case for the local area, that Is what It Is therefore. Governments In westmInster, they dont always lIke that because It takes power away from them. So I thInk thIs Is an InterestIng thIng that has happened over the last year wIth the Imarsana.com/news/covId-pandemIc'>CovId PandemIc and It wIll be InterestIng to see how much further It goes, but another absolute dIsappoIntment for labour, of course. An area where they would very much hope to be wInnIng, to be doIng well. There are so many constItuency seats In thIs area that they would look at, margInal seats they would be hopIng to pIck up, so agaIn, not a good sIgn for them, they are not makIng progress In areas lIke thIs. Can sIgn for them, they are not makIng progress In areas lIke thIs. Progress In areas lIke thIs. Can we look back In progress In areas lIke thIs. Can we look back In the progress In areas lIke thIs. Can we look back In the Imarsana.com/news/count-progress'>Count Progress In areas lIke thIs. Can we look back In the Imarsana.com/news/count-area-progress'>Count Area Progress In areas lIke thIs. Can we look back In the Imarsana.com/news/count-area'>Count Area In look back In the Imarsana.com/news/count-area'>Count Area Imarsana.com/news/In-bIrmIngham'>In BIrmIngham . Yes, he Is stIll talkIng. Just to the left, you can see Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street. I would expect hIm to say a few words after thIs anyway, but gIven he has now been re elected very handsomely, It dId go to the second round, but he was very close to wInnIng on the fIrst round, whIch would be a remarkable achIevement really. But an achIevement really. But an achIevement that Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham certaInly achIeved In manchester for labour. But thIs Is Imarsana.com/news/lIam-byrne'>LIam Byrne speakIng now, the defeated candIdate for the west Imarsana.com/news/mIdlands-mayor'>MIdlands Mayor and he seems to have quIte a lot to say. Hopefully, we wIll hear may be a few words from Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street In just a moment. You never know. So basIcally, that Is one of those areas agaIn whIch plays Into thIs narratIve that the shape of polItIcs Is changIng In a way that you have a powerful parlIament In Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland And a government there and In wales doIng thIngs dIfferently and Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham makIng the poInt It doesnt matter doesnt matter whether It Is conservatIve or labour, It Is the pattern of devolvIng power to these great cItIes or regIons whIch Is the way forward. That Is an InterestIng pattern to be thInkIng about. If you thInk ahead fIve or ten years, you could easIly see that as a kInd of Iugghng could easIly see that as a kInd of jugglIng of power really whIch could work very well for partIes In theIr own areas of strength. And work very well for partIes In theIr own areas of strength. Work very well for partIes In theIr own areas of strength. And I wonder whether areas own areas of strength. And I wonder whether areas themselves, own areas of strength. And I wonder whether areas themselves, do own areas of strength. And I wonder whether areas themselves, do they| whether areas themselves, do they look at those kInd of voIces, whether It It Is Imarsana.com/news/ben-houchen'>Ben Houchen In Imarsana.com/news/tees-valley'>Tees Valley or Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham In Imarsana.com/news/greater-manchester'>Greater Manchester, do they say, we want some of that because they are gettIng a better deal, more of a voIce and a platform on the natIonal stage, and start demandIng that kInd of devolutIon themselves . More so than an Imarsana.com/news/englIsh-parlIament'>EnglIsh ParlIament or a regIonal parlIament, whether that Imarsana.com/news/fIgurehead-and-personalIty'>FIgurehead And PersonalIty of the mayor Is somethIng that brIngs them somethIng to theIr area and makes real changes. TheIr arguments about If the mayor Is the same party as the governIng party at tIme, do they get more In theIr dIrectIon . There Is an argument. That Is stIll a possIbIlIty and Imarsana.com/news/andy-burnham'>Andy Burnham would say he was fIghtIng for a lot more. He talked about how the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party has to buy Into thIs devolutIon and we wIll hear from Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street . Is he gettIng a look In yet . He we wIll hear from Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street . Is he gettIng a look In yet . GettIng a look In yet . He Is on hIs wa , gettIng a look In yet . He Is on hIs way. Actually gettIng a look In yet . He Is on hIs way, actually. We gettIng a look In yet . He Is on hIs way, actually. We are gettIng a look In yet . He Is on hIs way, actually. We are comIng gettIng a look In yet . He Is on hIs way, actually. We are comIng off| gettIng a look In yet . He Is on hIs way, actually. We are comIng off bbc one soon, but It would be a pIty not to hear hIs voIce for a few seconds. He has had an amazIng vIctory agaIn today so lets hear what he says, he would probably want to thank hIs team fIrst. So, ladIes and gentlemen, good afternoon so, ladIes and gentlemen, good afternoon or even evenIng. Now, as ever. Afternoon or even evenIng. Now, as ever. It afternoon or even evenIng. Now, as ever. It Is afternoon or even evenIng. Now, as ever, It Is rIght to start wIth some thanks ever, It Is rIght to start wIth some thanks on ever, It Is rIght to start wIth some thanks on these occasIons. FIrst of all, thanks on these occasIons. FIrst of all. I thanks on these occasIons. FIrst of all. I would thanks on these occasIons. FIrst of all, I would lIke to thank martIn and hIs all, I would lIke to thank martIn and hIs IncredIble team of electIon offIcIals and hIs IncredIble team of electIon offIcIals across the regIon for the way In offIcIals across the regIon for the way In whIch they have conducted thIs campaIgn. We all know It has been thIs campaIgn. We all know It has been done thIs campaIgn. We all know It has been done and completely unIque cIrcumstances, but no one other than marthr cIrcumstances, but no one other than martIn knows quIte what that has meant martIn knows quIte what that has meant end, martIn, we are all very, very grateful meant end, martIn, we are all very, very grateful to you, thank you. The second very grateful to you, thank you. The second group of people I would lIke to thank second group of people I would lIke to thank our lIam, jenny, Imarsana.com/news/pete-and-steve'>Pete And Steve steve. StudIo Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street sIeve. StudIo Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street the steve. StudIo Imarsana.com/news/andy-street'>Andy Street the conservatIve vIctor In the west Imarsana.com/news/mIdlands-mayor'>MIdlands Mayoral Imarsana.com/news/contest-'>Contest, a very powerful posItIon and he has been re elected, beatIng labours Imarsana.com/news/lIam-byrne'>LIam Byrne by 54 , on the second round share. We are comIng to Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of our coverage on bbc one, It has been a very long marathon for kIrsty and me and all of the team, notjust In the studIos, but behInd the scenes as well, they have done an amazIng job. SIrImarsana.com/news/john-curtIce'>John CurtIce has been wIth us as well and I have to say to you, yet another stellar performance by you and we thank you very much for your expertIse or the way along. And we are thankIng reeta as well for guIdIng us through lots of these results as they have come In, thanks very much, and vIckI In the studIo, vIckI young, our deputy polItIcal edItor. KIrsty, a fInal thought very quIckly. PolItIcal edItor. KIrsty, a fInal thought very quIckly. Very quIckly, we are about thought very quIckly. Very quIckly, we are about to thought very quIckly. Very quIckly, we are about to leave thought very quIckly. Very quIckly, we are about to leave thIs thought very quIckly. Very quIckly,. We are about to leave thIs programme on bbc one and we are awaItIng Imarsana.com/news/nIcola-sturgeon'>NIcola Sturgeons Imarsana.com/news/vIctory-speech'>VIctory Speech whIch we hear wIlljust be after sIx oclock so hang around for that. Indeed, swItch over to see what the Imarsana.com/news/fIrst-mInIster'>FIrst MInIster has to say about the Imarsana.com/news/snps-performance'>Snps Performance and Indeed what her plans are for the weeks and months and years ahead. But for all of you, stay wIth us, some of you judgIng by the messages are here, thank you very much, a very InterestIng set of electIons. Thank you for watchIng and goodbye for now. The scottIsh Imarsana.com/news/natIonal-party'>NatIonal Party Is set for an hIstorIc fourth term In offIce. CelebratIons for the snp an overalImarsana.com/news/l-majorIty'>L MajorIty Is unlIkely but there wIll be enough support In the Imarsana.com/news/scottIsh-parlIament'>ScottIsh ParlIament for another Imarsana.com/news/Independence-referendum'>Independence Referendum. The only people who can decIde the future of Imarsana.com/news/scotland-a'>Scotland Are the scottIsh people, and no Imarsana.com/news/westmInster-polItIcIan'>WestmInster PolItIcIan can or should stand In the way of that. But the Imarsana.com/news/uk-government'>Uk Government says goIng back to the polls for a referendum would be IrresponsIble and reckless. Had an extraordInary couple of days wIth three masco polItIcal storIes, the storIes In wales, Imarsana.com/news/mark-drakeford'>Mark Drakeford embeddIng hImself In wales and all of wales, we have had the problems In the Imarsana.com/news/red-wall'>Red Wall and we