new rules for care home visits in england. two people — as well as babies and young children — will be allowed for indoor visits from 12th april. president biden says he's heartbroken at the death of a police officer killed as he was guarding the us capitol building in washington dc. italy goes into an easter lockdown — as the country struggles with the latest wave of the coronavirus. and, the mummies of 22 ancient egyptian rulers will be transported through cairo today — crowds are expected to line the streets, to witness the historic procession. now on bbc news... global questions talks to two formerfemale presidents, one from africa and one from europe, who've both been trailblazers for women's rights for decades. hello, and welcome to global questions. thousands of women all over the world are protesting against gender violence and sexism, and are demanding an end to the violation of their right. this week, we have to _ violation of their right. this week, we have to be _ violation of their right. this week, we have to be distinguished - violation of their right. this week, l we have to be distinguished former female presidents, one from africa and one from europe, answering questions about why women still have to endure this nomination. that is a global questions sexism and violence against women in a patriarchal world. to bring you this addition are our two panellists and specialists joining us via video link from all over the world. let me tell you who is in the hall this week giving the answers, we have two leading global states women who were co—chairs of the woman leaders network of the africa europe foundation. mary robinson was the first female president in the republic of ireland, elected in 1990. before becoming a politician, she trained as a lawyer on leaving office she became the un high commissioner of human rights. and ellenjohnson sirleaf was the first woman to be elected head of state in africa. she was president of liberia until 2018. an economist by training, she was thejoint recipient of an economist by training, she was the joint recipient of the nobel peace prize in 2011 for her work in promoting women's rights and for her leadership during and after a liberia's civil war. welcome to you both. remember, you, too, canjoin the conversation using the hashtag on screen. we have lots and lots of great questions and i'm sure some really brilliant on those from a two panellists so let's get straight down to business and faith immanuel in lagos, nigeria. your question. hello, good evening. really excited to be here. my question is, given our culture, why is there a sense of male entitlement? this our culture, why is there a sense of male entitlement?— our culture, why is there a sense of male entitlement? this get straight down to business, _ male entitlement? this get straight down to business, doesn't - male entitlement? this get straight down to business, doesn't it? - male entitlement? this get straight down to business, doesn't it? why. down to business, doesn't it? why does the patriarch you still exist? the long—standing cultural assumptions are what gave credence to the patriarch e. women have been addressing this over the years. fortunately, in more recent times as a result of this continued struggle on the part of women, some of these assumptions are increasingly no longer there and we need to continue to make sure we make —— no longer valid and we need to continue to make sure we make that point. i agree very much with ellen. i think agree very much with ellen. i think a lot of— agree very much with ellen. i think a lot of boys— agree very much with ellen. i think a lot of boys and culture think they are valued — a lot of boys and culture think they are valued more than girls, then they— are valued more than girls, then they see — are valued more than girls, then they see their role models, the president— they see their role models, the president is a man, prime minister as a man. — president is a man, prime minister as a man, judges are all men and it reinforces— as a man, judges are all men and it reinforces that sense that men are more _ reinforces that sense that men are more important and therefore have that sense — more important and therefore have that sense of entitlement. that's what _ that sense of entitlement. that's what we — that sense of entitlement. that's what we need to change. both that sense of entitlement. that's what we need to change.- that sense of entitlement. that's what we need to change. both of you think it's a cultural _ what we need to change. both of you think it's a cultural problem, - what we need to change. both of you think it's a cultural problem, not - think it's a cultural problem, not something that can be addressed with legislation, because faith asks why there is a sense of male entitlement and it seems to be resistant to even good laws trying to eradicate it. i think the laws can help. removing the laws _ think the laws can help. removing the laws that this grenade can help and also _ the laws that this grenade can help and also a — the laws that this grenade can help and also a kind of educational change — and also a kind of educational change based on equality. we just one generation equality, the forum taking _ one generation equality, the forum taking place in mexico in paris this year is _ taking place in mexico in paris this year is all— taking place in mexico in paris this year is all about that, it's all about— year is all about that, it's all about asserting the true equality and the — about asserting the true equality and the more women move into high office _ and the more women move into high office in— and the more women move into high office in various ways and we deal with it _ office in various ways and we deal with it at — office in various ways and we deal with it at local level, the more we will address it.— with it at local level, the more we will address it. why yours will help but unless they _ will address it. why yours will help but unless they are _ will address it. why yours will help but unless they are -- _ will address it. why yours will help but unless they are -- laws - will address it. why yours will help but unless they are -- laws will. but unless they are —— laws will help but unless they are implement than we have the environment in which the implementation is insisted upon by those in society, both men and women, then it is most difficult to get away from those assumptions. 0ver to get away from those assumptions. over to casablanca, morocco. what do you want to ask ellenjohnson sirleaf and mary robinson? you want to ask ellen johnson sirleaf and mary robinson? thank ou, both sirleaf and mary robinson? thank you, both madam _ sirleaf and mary robinson? thank you, both madam president, - sirleaf and mary robinson? t�*iafia; you, both madam president, what an honour to be with you in the session today, thank you for the opportunity, bbc global questions. my opportunity, bbc global questions. my question today is about women in leadership positions. many of us in this position here that we are to articulate, to direct or even to confident. why do people make these kind of statements and do you think this can lead to self—limiting ambitions for women and many other girls who are growing to be these leaders? thank you. more girls who are growing to be these leaders? thank you. mary robinson, what is your— leaders? thank you. mary robinson, what is your answer? _ leaders? thank you. mary robinson, what is your answer? thank - leaders? thank you. mary robinson, what is your answer? thank you. - leaders? thank you. mary robinson, what is your answer? thank you. it l what is your answer? thank you. it is true that — what is your answer? thank you. it is true that women _ what is your answer? thank you. it is true that women in _ what is your answer? thank you. it is true that women in leadership i what is your answer? thank you. it. is true that women in leadership are often _ is true that women in leadership are oftenjudged differently than men. the traits — oftenjudged differently than men. the traits that are valued in men, like decisiveness, assertiveness, old actioh, — like decisiveness, assertiveness, old action, can sometimes be seen as shrill, _ old action, can sometimes be seen as shrill, hossy, — old action, can sometimes be seen as shrill, bossy, allthe old action, can sometimes be seen as shrill, bossy, all the negative terms — shrill, bossy, all the negative terms when a woman is doing exactly the same _ terms when a woman is doing exactly the same thing. that is a cultural trait itself — the same thing. that is a cultural trait itself i_ the same thing. that is a cultural trait itself. i actually think the best— trait itself. i actually think the best way— trait itself. i actually think the best way to counter it is to ignore it. i rememberwhen i was best way to counter it is to ignore it. i remember when i was elected president — it. i remember when i was elected president of ireland in 1990, i was the first— president of ireland in 1990, i was the first woman president and i was absolutely— the first woman president and i was absolutely determined to do it confidently, feeling that actually i would _ confidently, feeling that actually i would do — confidently, feeling that actually i would do a betterjob precisely because — would do a betterjob precisely because i— would do a betterjob precisely because i was a woman. i didn't want to he _ because i was a woman. ididn't want to be seen— because i was a woman. i didn't want to be seen as — because i was a woman. i didn't want to be seen as being the likely men, i to be seen as being the likely men, iwahted _ to be seen as being the likely men, iwahted to— to be seen as being the likely men, i wanted to do it differently and use all— i wanted to do it differently and use all my skills and leadership qualities — use all my skills and leadership qualities as a woman to do the job and i_ qualities as a woman to do the job and i think— qualities as a woman to do the job and i think that is the way to counter— and i think that is the way to counter it~ _ and i think that is the way to counter it-— and i think that is the way to counter it. y ., ,., ,, ., counter it. ellen johnson sirleaf, societal expectations _ counter it. ellen johnson sirleaf, societal expectations of - counter it. ellen johnson sirleaf, societal expectations of women, j counter it. ellen johnson sirleaf, - societal expectations of women, they shouldn't fight in combat or go into space and not be too confident, what do you think about this? if space and not be too confident, what do you think about this?— do you think about this? if these values, articulate, _ do you think about this? if these values, articulate, direct, - do you think about this? if these values, articulate, direct, wherej values, articulate, direct, where the ones that are attributed to women, that would be great. we would claim it. most times, the values that are attributed are the ones that are attributed are the ones that have a negative overtone. too many times, when women are assertive, it's said that they are aggressive even though men would be called assertive. so i don't think we have a problem with these particular attributes, and women are just prepared to stand up and accept those. they have no problem with being called articulate. we would like to see that and so what we need to do is make sure women continue to speak out and have their voice, and continue to be regarded as the ones that are going to claim the leadership they rightfully deserve. what do you want to say to our two modern presidents?— modern presidents? furthermore, thank ou modern presidents? furthermore, thank you very _ modern presidents? furthermore, thank you very much. _ modern presidents? furthermore, thank you very much. this - modern presidents? furthermore, thank you very much. this is - thank you very much. this is reassuring. i myself believed in this from day one since i was a little girl in the south of your fighting the stereotypes. —— south ofjordan. i'm so happy there are other leaders encouraging and inspiring in these emerging markets and around the world to really break these barriers and stereotypes. thank you very much. flilli" these barriers and stereotypes. thank you very much.— thank you very much. our next ruestion thank you very much. our next question is _ thank you very much. our next question is from _ thank you very much. our next question is from rachel - thank you very much. our next question is from rachel wong, | thank you very much. our next - question is from rachelwong, you question is from rachel wong, you are the ceo of the think tank women's forum australia. fire away. it really is a privilege to discuss these issues. my question today is, when are we going to see equality for women and culture, with shaped misogynistic attitudes in pornography among other things, how can we address it? this pornography among other things, how can we address it?— can we address it? this is a huge roblem, can we address it? this is a huge problem. isn't — can we address it? this is a huge problem, isn't it? _ can we address it? this is a huge problem, isn't it? the _ can we address it? this is a huge problem, isn't it? the sectoral. problem, isn't it? the sectoral objectification of women deeply embedded in particularly popular culture. it embedded in particularly popular culture. . , , culture. it really is. objectification - culture. it really is. objectification of i culture. it really is. - objectification of women is a problem that's got to be resisted in the strongest of ways. people are very critical to how we shape the attitudes of women in society and let me say, the media is a major concern in this regard. the media can be positive in being able to uplift the voices of women but the media can also be very negative and we've seen so many cases in recent times where women who have achieved leadership roles are told... when conveying the leadership roles, are conveyed in a negative sense and the director of the world trade organization in which she was ported and elected in this position but on announcing it, she was called names that will degrading. you announcing it, she was called names that will degrading.— that will degrading. you talk about the former nigerian _ that will degrading. you talk about the former nigerian finance - that will degrading. you talk about i the former nigerian finance minister who hasjust become the former nigerian finance minister who has just become the minister of the world trade organization. what are you referring to there? she the world trade organization. what are you referring to there?- are you referring to there? she was bein: are you referring to there? she was being attacked _ are you referring to there? she was being attacked because _ are you referring to there? she was being attacked because she - are you referring to there? she was being attacked because she was - are you referring to there? she was| being attacked because she was the first woman to be elected as director general of the world trade organization and they did not want to give her the credit for her talent and her managerial expertise. theyjust talent and her managerial expertise. they just wanted to say she was merely a grandmother and should not be there. and i think they need to apologise for that statement. that is what ngozi okonjo—iweala faithful that a that is what ngozi okon'o-iweala faithfultha- . . faithful that a disparaging statement _ faithful that a disparaging statement but _ faithful that a disparaging statement but let's - faithful that a disparaging statement but let's move | faithful that a disparaging i statement but let's move on faithful that a disparaging - statement but let's move on to how women are addressed in advertising and pop videos and all the rest of it. . ., , ., and pop videos and all the rest of it. unique consumer revolt against that kind of _ it. unique consumer revolt against that kind of objectification, - it. unique consumer revolt against that kind of objectification, that i that kind of objectification, that misuse — that kind of objectification, that misuse of— that kind of objectification, that misuse of the image of women to sell product _ misuse of the image of women to sell product in _ misuse of the image of women to sell product in a _ misuse of the image of women to sell product in a very sexy way and so on, product in a very sexy way and so on. and _ product in a very sexy way and so on. and also _ product in a very sexy way and so on, and also the problems of social media _ on, and also the problems of social media that — on, and also the problems of social media that eleanor was talking about what we _ media that eleanor was talking about what we need to be careful that we do not _ what we need to be careful that we do not intrude on freedom of expression and have a censorship that can — expression and have a censorship that can he — expression and have a censorship that can be counter—productive, that can actually — that can be counter—productive, that can actually cause another kind of reaction — can actually cause another kind of reaction it— can actually cause another kind of reaction. it goes right across the board _ reaction. it goes right across the board. women when elected to high office _ board. women when elected to high office do— board. women when elected to high office do suffer from complaints about _ office do suffer from complaints about how they dress, how they speak, — about how they dress, how they speak, how they work, how they smile. _ speak, how they work, how they smile. and — speak, how they work, how they smile, and it's a much tougher world for women _ smile, and it's a much tougher world for women in — smile, and it's a much tougher world for women in public positions and we know— for women in public positions and we know that, _ for women in public positions and we know that, and part of it is the fact that — know that, and part of it is the fact that we allow an objectification and it's how we really— objectification and it's how we really try— objectification and it's how we really try to counter that by having a society— really try to counter that by having a society that values gender equality— a society that values gender equality and that will not tolerate as consumers this objectification, it will— as consumers this objectification, it will take — as consumers this objectification, it will take time. as consumers this ob'ectification, it will take time.— it will take time. rachel, do you have any ideas _ it will take time. rachel, do you have any ideas yourself - it will take time. rachel, do you have any ideas yourself about i it will take time. rachel, do you i have any ideas yourself about how governments can address this because it is a question you posed? yes. governments can address this because it is a question you posed?— it is a question you posed? yes, i couldn't agree — it is a question you posed? yes, i couldn't agree more _ it is a question you posed? yes, i couldn't agree more we _ it is a question you posed? yes, i couldn't agree more we need - it is a question you posed? yes, i couldn't agree more we need to l couldn't agree more we need to ensure a quality across the board for women with men, but i really don't think we can do that unless we seriously address the issue of pornography. to recognise that pawn is normalising violence against women and this conditioning men from when they arejust women and this conditioning men from when they are just young boys to view girls as sexual objects to be used and abused and say nothing of the sexual violence and exploitation that takes place on the pawn industry itself, and sign the government acknowledged the inherently obstructive nature of pawn and address it that right of pornography and address it in the correct way. to pornography and address it in the correct way-— correct way. to audrey, your question- — correct way. to audrey, your question. thank _ correct way. to audrey, your question. thank you - correct way. to audrey, your question. thank you for - correct way. to audrey, your l question. thank you for having correct way. to audrey, your - question. thank you for having me. modern presidents, _ question. thank you for having me. modern presidents, i'd _ question. thank you for having me. modern presidents, i'd be - question. thank you for having me. | modern presidents, i'd be interested to know what steps men can take to achieve gender equality. it is achieve gender equality. it is really important _ achieve gender equality. it is really important that we engage men because _ really important that we engage men because gender equality matters for both women and men, and there are ever alike _ both women and men, and there are everalike un men adopting both women and men, and there are ever alike un men adopting a both women and men, and there are everalike un men adopting a he both women and men, and there are ever alike un men adopting a he or she approach to be champions of gender— she approach to be champions of gender equality and ellen has been seeking _ gender equality and ellen has been seeking to bring male presidents in africa _ seeking to bring male presidents in africa together on this issue, sol will pass— africa together on this issue, sol will pass to — africa together on this issue, sol will pass to her in a moment but i do think— will pass to her in a moment but i do think it — will pass to her in a moment but i do think it is _ will pass to her in a moment but i do think it is really important to have _ do think it is really important to have men— do think it is really important to have men take on the child rearing, the homemaking, the care of elderly so the _ the homemaking, the care of elderly so the burdens and responsibilities at home _ so the burdens and responsibilities at home are shelled because until we do that, _ at home are shelled because until we do that, we _ at home are shelled because until we do that, we will not see a full equality _ do that, we will not see a full euuali . ., , ., equality. how achievable is that? ellen johnson _ equality. how achievable is that? ellen johnson sirleaf _ equality. how achievable is that? ellen johnson sirleaf how - equality. how achievable is that? i ellen johnson sirleaf how achievable ellen johnson sirleaf how achievable is it ellenjohnson sirleaf how achievable is it in ellen johnson sirleaf how achievable is it in africa to get the ellenjohnson sirleaf how achievable is it in africa to get the men to agree to be homemakers and take 50-50 agree to be homemakers and take 50—50 share in the child rearing? are all way off from that. we have to ask the question, when will men recognise the value of women as men to know the contribution that women can make to society? they are equally smart, knowledgeable, they are courageous, what does it take for them to recognise those value is that reside in there? their wives is like their daughters? what does it take? ~ ., ., , .,~ like their daughters? what does it take? ., ., , ., ., , take? what does it take? what does that the , take? what does it take? what does that they. ngozi _ take? what does it take? what does that they, ngozi okonjo-iweala? - take? what does it take? what does| that they, ngozi okonjo-iweala? you that they, ngozi okonjo—iweala? you are posing the question and we are all gold and we want to know. you're likely policies. we need constitutional change if that is required but we haven't able to change the attitudes. for people to see women be young, that says they ought to be in the home. lloathed see women be young, that says they ought to be in the home.— see women be young, that says they ought to be in the home. what do you think about what _ ought to be in the home. what do you think about what you've _ ought to be in the home. what do you think about what you've just _ ought to be in the home. what do you think about what you've just heard? i think about what you've just heard? these are excellent responses and thatjust back these are excellent responses and that just back to these are excellent responses and thatjust back to the thought these are excellent responses and that just back to the thought that someone running an nonprofit to get more than in the industry and talking about the 50, men will not just that from the conversation, they need to be active and that means really calling out my progressions, telling people when it's not ok to do or say certain things and these responses make me optimistic about being a woman in the industry. optimistic about being a woman in the industry-— the industry. that is great. he liked optimism _ the industry. that is great. he liked optimism in _ the industry. that is great. he liked optimism in the - the industry. that is great. he | liked optimism in the industry. the industry. that is great. he - liked optimism in the industry. not all doom and gloom. it’s liked optimism in the industry. not all doom and gloom.— liked optimism in the industry. not all doom and gloom. it's an honour to be here- — all doom and gloom. it's an honour to be here. thank— all doom and gloom. it's an honour to be here. thank you _ all doom and gloom. it's an honour to be here. thank you so _ all doom and gloom. it's an honour to be here. thank you so much. - all doom and gloom. it's an honourj to be here. thank you so much. my question is, what do you think the biggest hurdle to achieving gender equality and women's economic empowerment across the globe? biggest hurdle for the water the big obstacle? �* , obstacle? attitudes. in the nude male domination. _ obstacle? attitudes. in the nude male domination. the _ obstacle? attitudes. in the nude male domination. the world - obstacle? attitudes. in the nude male domination. the world for| obstacle? attitudes. in the nude i male domination. the world for for male domination. the world for for male power. it still what keeps women behind. how do we change the attitude? that's what we need to address. lots of progress and there, as we mentioned, men who have now been liberated from these all the attitude and we need to expand their numbers. �* . numbers. attitude, attitude, attitude. numbers. attitude, attitude, attitude- l— numbers. attitude, attitude, attitude. i agree _ numbers. attitude, attitude, attitude. i agree and - numbers. attitude, attitude, attitude. i agree and i - numbers. attitude, attitude, attitude. i agree and i think. numbers. attitude, attitude, - attitude. i agree and i think what we really need _ attitude. i agree and i think what we really need is _ attitude. i agree and i think what we really need is to _ attitude. i agree and i think what we really need is to have - attitude. i agree and i think what we really need is to have a - attitude. i agree and i think whatj we really need is to have a sense that in the modern world, we all benefit from more equality therefore for men and women, this is the goal and i think this is something that young people understand more. young girls are leaving as climate activist full they are showing by the passion and how articulate they are that they will change the rules, if i can put it that way, and i do think that a big hurdle is the fact that there is a lack of resources for what women want to achieve. very little trickles down to women at local level in their communities to make them resilient to climate, for example. and not only is power on the side of men, so our resources. thank you. now to saudi arabia for our last question.— our last question. thank you for havin: our last question. thank you for having me- _ our last question. thank you for having me- i— our last question. thank you for having me. i am _ our last question. thank you for having me. i am 17— our last question. thank you for having me. i am 17 years - our last question. thank you for having me. i am 17 years old, i l our last question. thank you for i having me. i am 17 years old, i am part of the un generation of equality for youth group and i am also a un delegate for girls learn international and i run my own nonprofit and my question is, how can we ensure that women have equal representation in power in places of decision—making and leadership. thank you. all that your only 17. my goodness. coming to you. how do we ensure equal representation and power in decision—making and leadership? and can ijust say, i know liberia introduced a new law preserving parliamentary seat for women, young people and people with disabilities. our quote is one of the ways forward? we need more than that, we need an enabling environment. forthat, go back changing attitudes. women cannot be the only ones that fight to change these attitudes. men have to weigh in. we are trying to write a letter to all the male presidents and e—mail readers, and ask them to be willing to give an open commitment to gender equality. how will they respond? we do not know, but i think we ought to ask them to do it. thank ou. what we ought to ask them to do it. thank you- what is — we ought to ask them to do it. thank you- what is your— we ought to ask them to do it. thank you. what is your answer, _ we ought to ask them to do it. thank you. what is your answer, mary - you. what is your answer, mary robinson? l you. what is your answer, mary robinson?— you. what is your answer, mary robinson? . , ., ., ., robinson? i agree but women have to be smart. robinson? i agree but women have to be smart- take _ robinson? i agree but women have to be smart. take the _ robinson? i agree but women have to be smart. take the africa _ robinson? i agree but women have to be smart. take the africa euro - be smart. take the africa euro foundation that you mention that the beginning _ foundation that you mention that the beginning. you mentioned we are co-chairs— beginning. you mentioned we are co-chairs of— beginning. you mentioned we are co—chairs of a women is a leader in network— co—chairs of a women is a leader in network and — co—chairs of a women is a leader in network and that did not exist. we invented _ network and that did not exist. we invented it — network and that did not exist. we invented it because the africa europe — invented it because the africa europe foundation was going to be chaired _ europe foundation was going to be chaired by— europe foundation was going to be chaired by two men, we were invited to be _ chaired by two men, we were invited to be honorary presidents, which is not very— to be honorary presidents, which is not very significant but we made it more _ not very significant but we made it more significant by deciding to have the network and we already find the network _ the network and we already find the network is _ the network and we already find the network is giving a gender lens to the whole — network is giving a gender lens to the whole of the africa europe foundation, all eight strategy committee is and what it is a great power— committee is and what it is a great power in _ committee is and what it is a great power in women lido networks at all levels. _ power in women lido networks at all levels. at _ power in women lido networks at all levels, at local level, goals, networking. i'm sure each of the questioners as part of a network. there's— questioners as part of a network. there's a — questioners as part of a network. there's a lot of trust in women leader— there's a lot of trust in women leader networks because we know that if we are _ leader networks because we know that if we are not— leader networks because we know that if we are not therefore our ego but they are _ if we are not therefore our ego but they are to— if we are not therefore our ego but they are to change things, they are to problem — they are to change things, they are to problem solve, they are to collaborate.— to problem solve, they are to collaborate. . ., , ., , collaborate. can i ask you both very u:l collaborate. can i ask you both very ugly because _ collaborate. can i ask you both very ugly because your— collaborate. can i ask you both very ugly because your older _ collaborate. can i ask you both very ugly because your older states - collaborate. can i ask you both very i ugly because your older states women and you've both been in positions of leadership, but the progress hasn't been great, how is it? in both your countries, the number of women parliamentarians is only around 10%, one in ten women leaders globally is female, so why is it even when have women such as yourself positions of leadership that the numbers just don't stack up on the progress isn't as great as we would like it to be? i was actually going to pick up on the importance of quotas. i think they do help to accelerate the equality and i fully agree with them, i've seen at work in so many countries. why is scandinavia seen as being very good on women playing as being very good on women playing a 50-50 as being very good on women playing a 50—50 role in parliament and cabinets? because they began with quotas. and i think we can all learn, we have quotas in ireland which are not working as well as they should but i do agree and i think it is very important that we work at this during this gender equality year. work at this during this gender equality year-— equality year. very quickly, progress — equality year. very quickly, progress has _ equality year. very quickly, progress has been - equality year. very quickly, progress has been very i equality year. very quickly, l progress has been very slow, equality year. very quickly, - progress has been very slow, here you are on the world stage for many decades but we still only have four countries in the world with more than 50% of their cabinet members are women. the than 5096 of their cabinet members are women-— than 5096 of their cabinet members are women. , ., ,, , ., ., are women. the progress is real and that may have _ are women. the progress is real and that may have led _ are women. the progress is real and that may have led to _ are women. the progress is real and that may have led to a _ are women. the progress is real and that may have led to a back- are women. the progress is real and that may have led to a back that i are women. the progress is real and that may have led to a back that we | that may have led to a back that we were moving too far, too fast. but i think— were moving too far, too fast. but i think we _ were moving too far, too fast. but i think we need tojust continue and the timing — think we need tojust continue and the timing is now. if there is any time _ the timing is now. if there is any time where _ the timing is now. if there is any time where we have been exposed, it is in this— time where we have been exposed, it is in this year, and now is the time to push— is in this year, and now is the time to push even— is in this year, and now is the time to push even harder and i believe the progress women have made can now be discussed _ the progress women have made can now be discussed. we mention the quota system, _ be discussed. we mention the quota system, some countries have resisted the basis _ system, some countries have resisted the basis of— system, some countries have resisted the basis of competition and this would _ the basis of competition and this would not — the basis of competition and this would not allow composition society but we _ would not allow composition society but we agree with that might disagree with that because women are ready to _ disagree with that because women are ready to compete fully for any leadership position or any position in society — leadership position or any position in socie . . ~ leadership position or any position in socie . ., ,, ,., ~ leadership position or any position insocie. . , in society. thank you. a country which in many _ in society. thank you. a country which in many people's - in society. thank you. a country which in many people's mines i in society. thank you. a country i which in many people's mines hasn't got the best record, let's put it that way, on women's rights. saudi has seen a — that way, on women's rights. saudi has seen a slow— that way, on women's rights. saudi has seen a slow but _ that way, on women's rights. saudi has seen a slow but steady - that way, on women's rights. saudi has seen a slow but steady and i has seen a slow but steady and promising _ has seen a slow but steady and promising progress in terms of women's — promising progress in terms of women's rights in recent years, we are given _ women's rights in recent years, we are given the right to drive in 2018. — are given the right to drive in 2018. the _ are given the right to drive in 2018, the patriarchal system is dissolving a it is still exist in some — dissolving a it is still exist in some circumstances unfortunately and ithink— some circumstances unfortunately and i think international pressure has been _ i think international pressure has been working release activist from all been working release activist from jail and _ been working release activist from jail and increase rights. been working release activist from jailand increase rights. i'm an optimistic— jailand increase rights. i'm an optimistic person and i do believe in the _ optimistic person and i do believe in the country's ability to make a lot of— in the country's ability to make a lot of gender equality progress in the future. . ~ lot of gender equality progress in the future. ., ,, , ., ., , the future. thank you and very good to end this programme _ the future. thank you and very good to end this programme with - the future. thank you and very good to end this programme with a - the future. thank you and very good to end this programme with a very l to end this programme with a very articulate 17—year—old they are. thank you very much indeed to my two panellists. and thank you to my question is who joined panellists. and thank you to my question is whojoined us panellists. and thank you to my question is who joined us from all over the world and to you wherever you are watching this programme. that's all from this edition. sexism and violence against women and a patriarchal world. remember, we are the programme bringing you the trend lines behind the headlines and if you want to be part of our next question time, submit one. for now, from me, goodbye. thank you very much indeed. hello, a very good afternoon to you. we may have lost a very warm weather we had earlier this week when temperatures got up above 2a degrees but it doesn't feel too bad out there today. get yourself into some sunshine and there is quite a lot around us that this picture came from a weather watcher in cumbria blue skies overhead but on the other side, the post, these guys have been much greyer, much cloudier and you can see that split in the satellite picture. in the break—up and it will be quite persistent some of these eastern coasts, that of were easier as well which will make it feel rather chilly and 7—8 celsius in the north coast and norfolk. further west, where we have sunshine, northern islands go on seeing the highest average of the afternoon, 13-16 c but highest average of the afternoon, 13—16 c but where we have those sunny skies by day, it translates that we guys overnight with a zone of guys if anything toppling further southwards which will allow temperatures to drop with towns and cities like birmingham, getting down just below. chile is not to easter sunday morning, dry and bright start from any across england and wales with early medicine for clearing giving spells of sunshine. northern ireland queers and we get more cloud into scotland with some rain into northern scotland through the day and behind that rain band, the year—end switch round to northerly thanit year—end switch round to northerly than it starts to turn colder, is a 14-15 c to the than it starts to turn colder, is a 1a—15 c to the south on sunday but by monday, the band of rain weakens as it goes and pushes southwards an association with a cold front and behind that, well, the air turns colder and the winds come straight down from the north, and this is a real arctic blast, and you will feel it on easter monday. some cloud and rain to clear away from the south first thing, then we see some sunshine but you can see the speckles of white, some showers falling as sleet and snow, and not only over the highest hills, even low levels for the south of uc shower pushing through, it could be wintry, it will be when the as well, all the with gusts of 70—80 mph and all the with gusts of 70—80 mph and a lot of snow bubbling up. over the high ground and take aberdeen, 2 degrees on the phone monitor. when you factor in the wind strength, it feels more like —5. so a much colder end to this easter weekend and the new meantime, make the most of anyone to get while you have it with more weather in 30 minutes but now time for the headlines. this is bbc news with the latest headlines... new rules for care home visits in england. two people — as well as babies and young children — will be allowed for indoor visits from 12th april. we know that in care homes, we've got... there may be grandparents, there may be great—grandparents who haven't had a chance to see new arrivals to their family during the pandemic and this will be the chance for that to happen. west midlands police say an 85—year—old woman, who died after being attacked by two dogs in her garden, suffered multiple injuries. the pandemic has had a devastating impact on many young people's mental health. now some of those affected are calling for more support. the mummies of 22 ancient egyptian rulers will be transported through cairo today. crowds are expected to line the streets to witness the historic procession.

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