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boris johnson says england's roadmap out of lockdown remains on track — as it's revealed covid booster jabs may be available as early as september. mp kenny macaskill says he will quit the snp to stand for election within alex salmond's new party. the un says its received �*shocking' reports of violence in myanmar — well over 100 pro—democracy protestors are reported to have been killed by security forces. work continues to refloat the giant container ship blocking egypt's suez canal. around 18 hundreds demonstrators have gathered in brighton to protest the government's police and crime bill. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the broadcaster penny smith and the sun's chief sports reporter martin lipton. i will chat the moment with both of you. i will chat the moment with tomorrow's front pages, starting with... the sunday telegraph leads on allegations of sexual assault and rape culture at several elite schools — it says a major whitehall investigation will look at how schools have responded. the independent reports that former prime minister david cameron's flagship youth project — the national citizens service — is failing to meet targets, despite receiving 1.3 billion pounds in funding since 2011. its picture story focuses on the deaths of civilians in myanmar. a third vaccine will be rolled out in the uk from mid—april, according to the mail on sunday. it says the moderna jab will be used to boost vaccines offered to the under 50s. the sunday times reports that britain is to offer 3.7 millionjabs to ireland — in part to help lift lockdown in northern ireland. the sunday people hails this year as the summer of love — and says 300 weddings could take place each day as lockdown eases. and the sunday express reports the prime minister is �*optimistic�* that the roadmap out of restrictions in england will go ahead as planned. so let's begin... hello again martin and penny. martin, i wonder if you could kick us off at the sunday times and the uk to offer covid dead to ireland. yeah, we know there's ongoing issues between the british government over the last three or four weeks over vaccination and threats to stop exporting elements of the vaccine for the up the latest twist is they say there was a plan being cut out draughted, howeveryou say there was a plan being cut out draughted, however you want to put it by dominic raab that will go over vander and louis the northern ireland secretary to offer a 3.7 million doses of the vaccine to ireland. some will go over to the border to northern ireland which would be positive to the people they are. one cabinet minister and named but one of those three quite clearly described it as a potential poke in the eye for brussels. just because it would disrupt the idea of unity in the eee you and everybody is supposed to fall in line and get theirjab news. european —based ways, fairways rather in france and particularly in germany which is having a massive rise in case numbers. but this is a little bit of a game being played here as well. also suggestions that after ireland is offered jobs around easter and other parts of developing world could also be given the chance to take up some of the supply i think that's where the urgency lies. penny. i was about to say, we are not like — penny. i was about to say, we are not like new— penny. i was about to say, we are not like new zealand. we don't live hours _ not like new zealand. we don't live hours flying time away from our nearest — hours flying time away from our nearest neighbours we are incredibly interlinked. northern ireland if they're — interlinked. northern ireland if they're not vaccinated and in ireland — they're not vaccinated and in ireland and northern ireland people --oin ireland and northern ireland people going across the border it's only a matter— going across the border it's only a matter of— going across the border it's only a matter of time. one would suggest before _ matter of time. one would suggest before it _ matter of time. one would suggest before it starts again. just touching on what martin said about the third _ touching on what martin said about the third wave. there is this danger as boris— the third wave. there is this danger as borisjohnson said, we look, we know_ as borisjohnson said, we look, we know from — as borisjohnson said, we look, we know from bitter experience. in a few weei quickly so that more people get vaccinated. we only got the first which i was won at the very end because i was a young. have now basically had their firstjab. i because i was a young. have now basically had theirfirstjab. i got my second wind up so i'm in a very good position in that regard. but the under 50s and then you have the 40 the under 50s and then you have the a0 macs and the 50s also need to be vaccinated. for going to open up the country everyone needs to be against this horrible virus. everything that increases in approves and speeds up the vaccination has got to be welcomed by absolutely everybody. i think it's a hugely positive position where end. it's going to get better. this is another step towards normality. we should welcome it. penny was going to stay with covid. tie it into the sunday express and this idea of getting back to the life we love. yes express and this idea of getting back to the life we love.- back to the life we love. yes i think that's — back to the life we love. yes i think that's what _ back to the life we love. yes i think that's what everybody, l back to the life we love. yes i j think that's what everybody, i certainly am, i put april 12 but i put it in the diary is just that one—word pub. it makes a change from walk with somebody else. here's another walk. walk with somebody else. here's anotherwalk. i walk with somebody else. here's another walk. i love walking. but my goodness, this past i'd never want to walk again. it looks likely that they are talking about it getting back to the life that we love powering out. nothing in the data to effect the road map that was already there. there is that slight cloud on there. there is that slight cloud on the horizon about what is going on in europe. but nevertheless, at the moment, it is all fingers crossed looking good. i think also the other good thing is this madonna i think i am right in saying that none of the aspects of modrena come from europe. it was that worried the fact that you mentioned earlier about maybe having elements of it being blocked. this is coming from elsewhere. [30 this is coming from elsewhere. do ou this is coming from elsewhere. do you think we've got fitter from all this walking?— you think we've got fitter from all this walking? you think we've got fitter from all this walkin: ? . ., ., this walking? have we got thinner or fatter? it depends. _ this walking? have we got thinner or fatter? it depends. there's - this walking? have we got thinner or fatter? it depends. there's also - fatter? it depends. there's also those accidental locks that you do when you been told to stay home. you think well i better stay home and will go out or you go out and then the weather is horrible so you just put it off. i think some people are getting better. it’s put it off. i think some people are getting better-— put it off. i think some people are getting better. it's not me. talking of better weather _ getting better. it's not me. talking of better weather martin. - getting better. it's not me. talking of better weather martin. let's - getting better. it's not me. talking | of better weather martin. let's turn to the sunday telegraph and a quarantine traffic light system that could save summer holidays. i quarantine traffic light system that could save summer holidays. i think we're all keen _ could save summer holidays. i think we're all keen to _ could save summer holidays. i think we're all keen to know— could save summer holidays. i think we're all keen to know when - could save summer holidays. i think we're all keen to know when we - could save summer holidays. i think we're all keen to know when we can j we're all keen to know when we can io we're all keen to know when we can go abroad _ we're all keen to know when we can go abroad if— we're all keen to know when we can go abroad if it's going to be possible. the government has been entirely— possible. the government has been entirely clear it's fair to say in it signpost _ entirely clear it's fair to say in it signpost of this. this is a potential— it signpost of this. this is a potential option, one of many actually— potential option, one of many actually be in proposal look dad. heathrow— actually be in proposal look dad. heathrow airport took about a three tier system effectively including a system _ tier system effectively including a system where if you basically sign up system where if you basically sign up for— system where if you basically sign up for this— system where if you basically sign up for this you can only spend three days and _ up for this you can only spend three days and quarantine rather than the ten if— days and quarantine rather than the ten if yoli're — days and quarantine rather than the ten if you're coming from a country or five _ ten if you're coming from a country or five a _ ten if you're coming from a country or five a you're from somewhere else _ or five a you're from somewhere else i— or five a you're from somewhere else ithink— or five a you're from somewhere else. i think anything that would allow— else. i think anything that would allow us — else. i think anything that would allow us out, give us the chance to id allow us out, give us the chance to go abroad — allow us out, give us the chance to go abroad would be beneficial. just ask him _ go abroad would be beneficial. just ask him to — go abroad would be beneficial. just ask him to look forward to. some sea and sand _ ask him to look forward to. some sea and sand we — ask him to look forward to. some sea and sand. we are all desperate for something — and sand. we are all desperate for something of that again. nobody had a chance _ something of that again. nobody had a chance billy last summer as much as i a chance billy last summer as much as i enjoyed — a chance billy last summer as much as i enjoyed my two days in new york in my— as i enjoyed my two days in new york in my day— as i enjoyed my two days in new york in my day trips out to various parts of the _ in my day trips out to various parts of the country. it wasn't the same. the weather— of the country. it wasn't the same. the weather isn't quite what you want _ the weather isn't quite what you want that — the weather isn't quite what you want that often. 0ther the weather isn't quite what you want that often. other issues as well this— want that often. other issues as well this concept of vaccine particles which are increasingly being _ particles which are increasingly being discussed as potentially a way to get— being discussed as potentially a way to get into _ being discussed as potentially a way to get into pubs. the 12th of next month— to get into pubs. the 12th of next month if— to get into pubs. the 12th of next month if you have to show a passport to get— month if you have to show a passport to get in _ month if you have to show a passport to get in we — month if you have to show a passport to get in. we all need a way back to what _ to get in. we all need a way back to what used _ to get in. we all need a way back to what used to be. may not go all the way but _ what used to be. may not go all the way but we — what used to be. may not go all the way but we need to feel as if we are moving _ way but we need to feel as if we are moving swiftly in the correct direction~ _ moving swiftly in the correct direction. and have that to look forward — direction. and have that to look forward to _ direction. and have that to look forward to. whether that be the pub, holidays, _ forward to. whether that be the pub, holidays, restaurants whether it be going _ holidays, restaurants whether it be going back — holidays, restaurants whether it be going back to football matches, it's over a _ going back to football matches, it's over a year— going back to football matches, it's over a year since we've last had proper— over a year since we've last had proper crowds at sports events. everything. these are the things we've _ everything. these are the things we've missed the social aspects of life. we've missed the social aspects of life if— we've missed the social aspects of life if we — we've missed the social aspects of life. if we can get back to them we'd _ life. if we can get back to them we'd all— life. if we can get back to them we'd all feel better. we life. if we can get back to them we'd all feel better.— life. if we can get back to them we'd all feel better. we all need a int, we'd all feel better. we all need a pint. martin. _ we'd all feel better. we all need a pint, martin. myself— we'd all feel better. we all need a pint, martin. myself obviously. i pint, martin. myself obviously. penn , i pint, martin. myself obviously. penny, iwonder— pint, martin. myself obviously. penny, iwonder if— pint, martin. myself obviously. penny, i wonder if you - pint, martin. myself obviously. penny, i wonder if you could i pint, martin. myself obviously. i penny, i wonder if you could take pint, martin. myself obviously. - penny, i wonder if you could take us to the lead story for the sunday telegraph and that is in inquiry, a whitehall inquiry into what's been described as an elite school sex scandal. , �* , ., ' described as an elite school sex scandal. , �* , . , ., scandal. yes. it's awful reading. it imlies scandal. yes. it's awful reading. it implies that _ scandal. yes. it's awful reading. it implies that the _ scandal. yes. it's awful reading. it implies that the schools _ scandal. yes. it's awful reading. it implies that the schools which - scandal. yes. it's awful reading. it| implies that the schools which cost a lot of money to send your children to that there is there is, rape culture going on. the chair of the commons education select committee has written in the telegraph and criticise senior school staff as being too worried about, more worried about the students than the welfare of students. and question why some boys from as he describes it mostly privilege homes don't see girls as equal or deserving of dignity. there is also an element to the story suggesting that the problem with this of course is that you demonise all boys for the appalling behaviour of the small minority. and i think that is one of the major issues that has to be addressed here. also, i don't have children but also, the parents. parents of both boys and girls need to talk to them. particularly obviously they need to talk to the boys. i think it's very sad that girls have felt that up until now they couldn't really speak out for they couldn't really speak out for the particularly it seems that in some of the stories i've read it's because the boys involved were considered to be the popular ones and therefore perhaps they were the ones who were believed over the girls. i ones who were believed over the i irls. ., , ., ones who were believed over the iirls. ., ., ., , ones who were believed over the girls. i also had a lesson today in exnlaining _ girls. i also had a lesson today in exnlaining what _ girls. i also had a lesson today in explaining what rape _ girls. i also had a lesson today in explaining what rape culture - girls. i also had a lesson today in explaining what rape culture is. l girls. i also had a lesson today in i explaining what rape culture is. and it could be name—calling, what we might say hitting on somebody and you would never expect that to be part of rape culture. this is what's important because girls aren't coming forward reporting those incidents and that's where it begins. that was fascinating today because i spoke to the lady who set “p because i spoke to the lady who set up the everyone's invited website and it really does make you stop and think. martin, what do parents, what role do parents have to play and this? parents are removed from a lot of the children's lives today and thatis of the children's lives today and that is because of social media. the rise of social _ that is because of social media. the rise of social media is the main way for kids— rise of social media is the main way for kids to — rise of social media is the main way for kids to talk to each other, it seems — for kids to talk to each other, it seems it's— for kids to talk to each other, it seems. it's gotten worse over the last year— seems. it's gotten worse over the last year because obviously some of bended _ last year because obviously some of bended home. there's a lot of on these _ bended home. there's a lot of on these platforms the groups, the whatsapp groups, tick—tock groups, instagram _ whatsapp groups, tick—tock groups, instagram etc. and i think what it does _ instagram etc. and i think what it does say— instagram etc. and i think what it does say to— instagram etc. and i think what it does say to all of us who are parents _ does say to all of us who are parents is _ does say to all of us who are parents is that we need to encourage our kids— parents is that we need to encourage our kids to _ parents is that we need to encourage our kids to talk about things that happen — our kids to talk about things that happen. not to hide things. to be honest— happen. not to hide things. to be honest and — happen. not to hide things. to be honest and upfront as best they can. find people — honest and upfront as best they can. find people they can confide in. even _ find people they can confide in. even if— find people they can confide in. even if they are embarrassed to confide — even if they are embarrassed to confide in — even if they are embarrassed to confide in their parents which they might— confide in their parents which they might be — confide in their parents which they might be. but also to encourage iirls might be. but also to encourage girls in— might be. but also to encourage girls in particular to stand up against — girls in particular to stand up against theirs and be brave enough to report _ against theirs and be brave enough to report even if they fear the consequences for that because unfortunately, if you don't you just in courage. — unfortunately, if you don't you just in courage, you allow the abusers. which _ in courage, you allow the abusers. which is _ in courage, you allow the abusers. which is what were talking about here _ which is what were talking about here this— which is what were talking about here. this is another form of sexual abuse _ here. this is another form of sexual abuse and _ here. this is another form of sexual abuse and coercion. you may argue it's been— abuse and coercion. you may argue it's been part — abuse and coercion. you may argue it's been part of society for many years _ it's been part of society for many years it — it's been part of society for many years. it might've been, doesn't make— years. it might've been, doesn't make it— years. it might've been, doesn't make it right, it'sjust plain wrong _ make it right, it'sjust plain wrong. what is interesting is the spotlight — wrong. what is interesting is the spotlight has now gone on to what might— spotlight has now gone on to what might be _ spotlight has now gone on to what might be a — spotlight has now gone on to what might be a racist, a privilege to aces _ might be a racist, a privilege to aces at — might be a racist, a privilege to aces at private schools it isn't just~ — aces at private schools it isn't just~ it — aces at private schools it isn't just. it isn'tjust a societal issue that— just. it isn'tjust a societal issue that takes— just. it isn'tjust a societal issue that takes break the neck place and more _ that takes break the neck place and more impoverished places. unfortunately where we are at the

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