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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are arejessica elgot, deputy political editor of the guardian — and katy balls, deputy political editor of the spectator. welcome back. let's look at what is in. the metro, which headlines prince philip leaving hospital after 28 days to be reunited with the queen at windsor. an exclusive in the huffington post — which says the foreign secretary told officials that britain would seek trade deals with countries that have breached international human rights standards. the financial times follows up on that story — which it says have led to accusations from some tory mps that borisjohnson is going soft on china. the vaccine chaos in europe is the top story in the telegraph — with brussels blaming eu governments of stockpiling jabs. the guardian headlines the growing pressure on borisjohnson to launch a public inquiry into britain's handling of covid—19. and the mail leads with the continuing drama within the royal family — after harry and meghan revealed details of private family conversations to a journalist friend. that friend then splurged them all out on american tv. rights, welcome back to you both. should we start again with the telegraph, the astrazeneca roll—out, the european medicines agency saying it is safe. most leaders accepting it is safe. most leaders accepting it is safe. most leaders accepting it is safe, but an abundance of caution or what, do you think what you leaders are notjust lifting the suspension straightaway? it is you leaders are notjust lifting the suspension straightaway?- suspension straightaway? it is an abundance of _ suspension straightaway? it is an abundance of caution, _ suspension straightaway? it is an abundance of caution, than - suspension straightaway? it is an abundance of caution, than i - suspension straightaway? it is an| abundance of caution, than i think part of the problem here is beyond a caution risk analysis of the number of blood clots compared to how lethal we know coronavirus can be. i do think it seems to be a misunderstanding in a way that the principle of being cautious here, because there is a risk to not giving adults the job, particularly come as you say, because we have some anybody�*s comments notjust the nhra, you also have the world health organization under others think of the vaccine is safe to use, there is nothing to particularly worry about compared to this vaccine in others when it comes to blood clots. they don't think there's anything abnormal here. i think that means that they are saying, welcome is this political? and he think the problem with you in their handling of this is that you look at their history with the astrazeneca vaccine, and it is incomparable to how they treated the pfizer vaccine or others. you know come at one point, we were hearing from emmanuel macron, that the oxford vaccine was ineffective, he then wrote back on that, but the whole way through, it has been reluctant by that you to embrace this vaccine from and i think that's why the recent turn of events, most people are saying they are not taking it at face value, they are not sure this is true. haw they are not sure this is true. how olitical, they are not sure this is true. how political. is _ they are not sure this is true. how political, is it. — they are not sure this is true. how political, is it, jessica? _ they are not sure this is true. how political, is it, jessica? that fits in with the vaccine scepticism that we know exists probably in greater numbers like countries like france than here? it’s numbers like countries like france than here? 3 ., numbers like countries like france than here? �*, . ., , numbers like countries like france than here?— than here? it's a really dangerous iame than here? it's a really dangerous came to than here? it's a really dangerous game to cast _ than here? it's a really dangerous game to cast doubts _ than here? it's a really dangerous game to cast doubts about - than here? it's a really dangerous game to cast doubts about this i game to cast doubts about this vaccine from even though you know, these are legitimate things that regulators want to look into, but they have not recommended causing they have not recommended causing the programme. in france, particularly, you mentioned, yes, i saw some really, really scary pulling figures about how many people distrusted the job now. i think that's the most vaccine hesitant country in the world, and emmanuel macron hasn't really helped out with the commons that katie highlighted. clearly, politicians here going to be worried about what its effects might be here. written has had a huge take—up of the vaccine, and there was a lot of talk about anti—vaccine sentiments ahead of the roll—outs, which doesn't seem to have materialised it all, but matt hancock have to come up tonight and say you know, it was a world—class regulator who had assessed this jab here in britain and saying that's, you know, there was a real world impact that can be evaluated right here because 11 million people have had the vaccine here, and so that's a pretty sizeable amount to see whether things would be going wrong. it things would be going wrong. it can'tjust be missteps each way, kennett? ursula bonder line from emmanuel macron, angela merkel, others, they have all delivered some pretty loaded statements about this vaccine, and to perhaps not get the data right or misinterpreted the data right or misinterpreted the data according to one german newspaper, which would produce some pretty alarming shocking headlines. you are right. if you go back the hands _ you are right. if you go back the hands of— you are right. if you go back the hands of time, there is a report saying — hands of time, there is a report saying almost worse than calling it ineffective, there was a figure which — ineffective, there was a figure which was strongly derived by the uk government of how ineffective it was amongst _ government of how ineffective it was amongst... gr government of how ineffective it was amonist. .. ., �* government of how ineffective it was amonist... ., �* ., ~' government of how ineffective it was amonist... ., �* ., ,, ., amongst... or wouldn't work on the over 60 fives- _ amongst... or wouldn't work on the over 60 fives. exactly, _ amongst... or wouldn't work on the over 60 fives. exactly, only - amongst... or wouldn't work on the over 60 fives. exactly, only to - amongst... or wouldn't work on the over 60 fives. exactly, only to then | over 60 fives. exactly, only to then obviously. — over 60 fives. exactly, only to then obviously. right _ over 60 fives. exactly, only to then obviously, right now, _ over 60 fives. exactly, only to then obviously, right now, there - over 60 fives. exactly, only to then obviously, right now, there is - over 60 fives. exactly, only to then | obviously, right now, there is some really— obviously, right now, there is some really positive data in the uk if you look— really positive data in the uk if you look at three out of four, you know, _ you look at three out of four, you know. they — you look at three out of four, you know, they have antibodies, so a lot of these _ know, they have antibodies, so a lot of these claims have been proved to be completely disbanded, and that's why do— be completely disbanded, and that's why do think there is the sense of government that some of this is a reluctance — government that some of this is a reluctance of you to embrace the oxford _ reluctance of you to embrace the oxford vaccine. the problem is that when _ oxford vaccine. the problem is that when you _ oxford vaccine. the problem is that when you have instances such as the one we _ when you have instances such as the one we have — when you have instances such as the one we have just had, there is a lot of mistrust — one we have just had, there is a lot of mistrust from the off go, and therefore. — of mistrust from the off go, and therefore, people are not willing to -ive therefore, people are not willing to give member states the benefit of the doubt from even if they are following — the doubt from even if they are following their safety protocols. and as — following their safety protocols. and as we have been saying, the potential impact of this over here, both of your spring chickens, i am having myjob tomorrow, but even a lot of my friends are saying to me, are you really sure, and now we have got quite a senior medic, haven't we, within the british establishment talking about the influence this is potentially going to have over here, and as you get down the demographic, more younger people perhaps picking up more younger people perhaps picking up on these stories think, well, am i going to risk a? about another 40-50 i going to risk a? about another 40—50 years of life in become endemic in some terrible side effects. ~ ., endemic in some terrible side effects. ~ . ., ., , endemic in some terrible side effects. . . ., , ., ., effects. we have already heard that a- -arentl effects. we have already heard that apparently charities _ effects. we have already heard that apparently charities and _ apparently charities and particularly those people who have fears about blood clots and who might be high risk have been trying to seek reassurance that the japanese seat. and that is kind of understandable from the headlines that you have been seen, particularly if you are in a high risk group and you see those headlines from across europe, but so far, i think the political leaders here aren't as worried about it as they thought they would be. they thought they might have to, you know, some kind of incentive scheme to get young people to have the jab, so i think in israel you saw people being offered free pizza with your jab. people seem so keen to get it here that they don't think that there's going to be that problem, but you know, you never know how the public mood can change, and that is something that the ministers are going to really want to keep a close eye on. 50 going to really want to keep a close e eon. ., ., , ., , eye on. so another billion pounds for rishi sunak _ eye on. so another billion pounds for rishi sunak to _ eye on. so another billion pounds for rishi sunak to find. _ eye on. so another billion pounds for rishi sunak to find. yes. - eye on. so another billion pounds for rishi sunak to find. yes. i - for rishi sunak to find. yes. i think we _ for rishi sunak to find. yes. i think we are _ for rishi sunak to find. yes. i think we are all _ for rishi sunak to find. yes. i think we are all quite - for rishi sunak to find. yes. i think we are all quite lucky i for rishi sunak to find. yes. i l think we are all quite lucky that for rishi sunak to find. yes. i - think we are all quite lucky that we have such — think we are all quite lucky that we have such a — think we are all quite lucky that we have such a probe accent nation from and if— have such a probe accent nation from and if you _ have such a probe accent nation from and if you look at some of the immediate response to the recent, it has made _ immediate response to the recent, it has made people worried, but i think the general— has made people worried, but i think the general sense is that it does fit into— the general sense is that it does fit into a — the general sense is that it does fit into a pattern.— fit into a pattern. let's go onto the male. _ fit into a pattern. let's go onto the male, prince _ fit into a pattern. let's go onto the male, prince philip - fit into a pattern. let's go onto the male, prince philip of- fit into a pattern. let's go onto i the male, prince philip of hospital today caught by several of the photographers who have been camped out there day and night outside looking over the hospital. the main story though, jessica, knew harry and megan drama. i mean all of this just being played out in public, and the male reaching a conclusion about what it thinks of the betrayal of trust. ijust trust. i just wonder if this will all come ijust wonder if this will all come out inch— ijust wonder if this will all come out inch by— ijust wonder if this will all come out inch by inch on american tv shows— out inch by inch on american tv shows or— out inch by inch on american tv shows or reading between the lines of 60 _ shows or reading between the lines of 60 words statements in the palace — of 60 words statements in the palace it_ of 60 words statements in the palace. it really is the... it's — palace. it really is the... it's amazing. this shows, i think, if you look at some of the language used in the mail and by gayle king, the american tv host who relays what the american tv host who relays what the couple have done over the weekend, they have spoke into prince william, they have spoken to prince charles, and it says that talks were unproductive. i mean that's the sort of link what you might expect to hearin of link what you might expect to hear in negotiations between the us and north korea rather than between people who are supposed to be in the same family, and i think that it does show that it's really telling that they are having to use this kind of very cold language to describe peace negotiations when it is ultimately about relationships inside a family.— is ultimately about relationships inside a family. number ten won't let inside a family. number ten won't get involved. _ inside a family. number ten won't get involved, the _ inside a family. number ten won't get involved, the prime _ inside a family. number ten won't get involved, the prime minister. get involved, the prime minister made that absolutely clear. but this is damaging, isn't it too uk plc as well. i think it is damaging, and i think that in— i think it is damaging, and i think that inthe— i think it is damaging, and i think that in the uk, if you look at the polling. — that in the uk, if you look at the polling. it — that in the uk, if you look at the polling, it seems that of the royal family— polling, it seems that of the royal family members whose reputation or approval— family members whose reputation or approval ratings went on the most, it was— approval ratings went on the most, it was the _ approval ratings went on the most, it was the duke and duchess of sussex — it was the duke and duchess of sussex after that interview, but if you look— sussex after that interview, but if you took at — sussex after that interview, but if you look at the coverage in america, if you look at the coverage in america, it you _ you look at the coverage in america, it you tune _ you look at the coverage in america, if you tune into the rolling tv news channels, — if you tune into the rolling tv news channels, it's quite different. they're — channels, it's quite different. they're talking about the uk as a racist _ they're talking about the uk as a racist country, they are talking about — racist country, they are talking about the _ racist country, they are talking about the monarchy and this alleged incidents _ about the monarchy and this alleged incidents. and it is, ithink about the monarchy and this alleged incidents. and it is, i think i'm a damaging — incidents. and it is, i think i'm a damaging to the uk, and they are also hearing that from commonwealth countries, _ also hearing that from commonwealth countries, so following that interview. so i think it does begin to have _ interview. so i think it does begin to have ramifications for the monarchy, and i think boris johnson's _ monarchy, and i think boris johnson's approach with not commenting on it works for now, i think— commenting on it works for now, i think if— commenting on it works for now, i think if it — commenting on it works for now, i think if it turns into permanent damage — think if it turns into permanent damage or longer—lasting, perhaps the government would need to say something. the government would need to say somethini. �* , ., the government would need to say somethini. �*, ., ., ., something. let's go on to the huffington — something. let's go on to the huffington post, _ something. let's go on to the huffington post, an _ something. let's go on to the huffington post, an exclusive| something. let's go on to the i huffington post, an exclusive for them, dominic raab. basically because of this tilt towards asia, the uk wants to do as much trade as possible, not necessarily worried about some countries who violate or skirt around human rights. some about some countries who violate or skirt around human rights.— skirt around human rights. some of this language _ skirt around human rights. some of this language in _ skirt around human rights. some of this language in this _ skirt around human rights. some of this language in this leaked - this language in this leaked recording that buffington post i've got is a great story has dominic raab saying i squarely believe we ought to be trading liberally around the worlds, and then he goes on to say that it should be restricted to certain levels of european standards of human rights. we are knocking to do many trade deals with gross markets of the future if we stick to those standards. and that is something that is particularly likely to rile some conservative backbenchers who have been very outspoken on china, particularly issues around the president and the treatment of uighur muslims and on hong kong as well in the crackdown on pro—democracy protesters there. they want to see the uk use its trade have to in order to make a point on those issues, and dominic raab basically sending a message here that that is not necessarily how the uk views it. you know, they will say that there are very stringent measures in place that the uk has acted and been very tough on china, but even borisjohnson set himself in the house of commons today that he doesn't believe that should be a new cold war. we should sequester our economy from china, and therefore, you know, they clearly want to tread the middle ground. is clearly want to tread the middle round. , , ., , clearly want to tread the middle round. , , , ,.,_ clearly want to tread the middle round., , , , ground. is this tory philosophy, you know, the philosophy _ ground. is this tory philosophy, you know, the philosophy of _ ground. is this tory philosophy, you know, the philosophy of the - ground. is this tory philosophy, you know, the philosophy of the tory i know, the philosophy of the tory party, or is this just pragmatism? i'm just thinking back to, say for example, south africa and apartheid and which countries carried on trading there. i think there is a desire by many, at least _ i think there is a desire by many, at least they say there is a desire to have _ at least they say there is a desire to have a — at least they say there is a desire to have a more ethical foreign policy— to have a more ethical foreign policy following brexit, lots of tory _ policy following brexit, lots of tory mps very animated about that, but clearly, — tory mps very animated about that, but clearly, we are seeing it's a problem — but clearly, we are seeing it's a problem if— but clearly, we are seeing it's a problem if it becomes quite pick and choose _ problem if it becomes quite pick and choose in_ problem if it becomes quite pick and choose. in terms of, i suppose, this pragmatism, — choose. in terms of, i suppose, this pragmatism, i think on china there is a sense — pragmatism, i think on china there is a sense of— pragmatism, i think on china there is a sense of pragmatism because ultimately, china is not the soviet union _ ultimately, china is not the soviet union and — ultimately, china is not the soviet union and china is so large and powerful— union and china is so large and powerful i _ union and china is so large and

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