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Hello. This is bbc news with Lukwesa Burak. Well be taking a look at tomorrow mornings papers in a moment Withjohn Rentoul and Lynn Davidson. First, the headlines. Pressure grows on the government over its pay offer to Health Service staff in england. More unions have joined the backlash. Hundreds of rangers fans gather outside the Ibrox Stadium in glasgow, despite lockdown rules. The teams on the verge of winning the scottish premiership. Pope francis delivers an impassioned condemnation of extremism and violence, during the first ever papal visit to iraq. 50, 49. The bill as amended is passed. Applause. The Us Senate Passes president bidens 1. 9 Trillion Covid Relief Plan by a single vote. The duke and Duchess Of Cambridge talk about the impact of the pandemic in a special programme on the commonwealth. Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. Joining me are the political commentator and former conservative adviser Lynn Davidson and john rentoul, Chief Political Commentator at the independent. Hello to you both. Let me just take you through a little selection of tomorrow because my front pages. Tomorrows front pages. The royal Family Features on most of sundays front pages. The queen wont watch harry and meghans interview with Oprah Winfrey, writes the times, and instead will go on a Charm Offensive next week. The mirror claims the Duchess Of Cambridge could be brought into the probe into alleged bullying by sister in law. Harry and Meghan Beecher on the front of the telegraph. Feature. In other news, lord frost, borisjohnsons europe adviser, has told the European Union to stop sulking over brexit. And below a picture of the queen, who the paper says is focused only on duty and her husband. The express leads on the chancellors efforts to make tech giants pay more tax. So, thats a little taster. Lets have our chat. John and lynn, lovely to see you both. Can you kick us off with the front page of The Sunday Times . A story i think is going to be on many front page apart from yours, john. But the lead story is the queen wont watch that harry and meghan crisis. ,. ,. � , crisis. Yes, as expected. Its splashed crisis. Yes, as expected. Its splashed across crisis. Yes, as expected. Its splashed across several crisis. Yes, as expected. Its splashed across several of l crisis. Yes, as expected. Its i splashed across several of the Sunday Newspapers front pages. Maybe we shouldnt be surprised that the queen isnt going to watch the oprah show with meghan and harry. I suspect may be perhaps wanting to spend some time with Prince Philip, who was obviously recentlyjust returned home from hospital. But philip. Use some colourful language in that story. He would talk of warning the duke and duchess. Obviously its prerecorded that they may attack the institution, but dont go for the people themselves. Theres talk about them coming out swinging, but theres actually some interesting pieces within their where actually, weve heard last week about these allegations of bullying towards the duchess of sussex. Theres is little indication there that there is an admission from an ally from hers that says that she admits that she could be difficult to work with. I thought that was quite interesting. I think Prince Philip is still obviously in hospital, moved back to the hospital he was already admitted into. But if we could go, john, do yourself, this pr blitz about allegedly the royal family are conducting. Is that something that should be getting involved in . Weill. Should be getting involved in . Well, aart should be getting involved in . Well, a art from should be getting involved in . Well, apart from the should be getting involved in . Well, apart from the fact should be getting involved in . Well, apart from the fact that should be getting involved in . Well, apart from the fact that if apart from the fact that if non front pages of the in dependent, ithink non front pages of the in dependent, i think that shows the film dependent, i think that shows the right news dependent, i think that shows the right newsjudgment. There is a spectacular bit of hypocrisy in the sunday spectacular bit of hypocrisy in The Sunday Times reports. Apparently the official sunday times reports. Apparently the official iine sunday times reports. Apparently the official line from the palace is that the official line from the palace is that the institutional dignified silence, that the institutional dignified silence, and it consists of off the record silence, and it consists of off the record quotes, as lynn said, extremely record quotes, as lynn said, extremely colourful. In essence, warning extremely colourful. In essence, Warning Harry and meghan not to go over the Warning Harry and meghan not to go over the top in attacking the royal family. Over the top in attacking the royal family. Or over the top in attacking the royal family, or else theyll be retaliation. The whole thing is streamlined and abide. Can retaliation. The whole thing is streamlined and abide. Retaliation. The whole thing is streamlined and abide. Can i ask both of you streamlined and abide. Can i ask both of you if streamlined and abide. Can i ask both of you if you streamlined and abide. Can i ask both of you if you are streamlined and abide. Can i ask both of you if you are going streamlined and abide. Can i ask both of you if you are going to i streamlined and abide. Can i ask| both of you if you are going to be watching it . Isuppose both of you if you are going to be watching it . I suppose being journalist, you will . Lifts. Watching it . I suppose being journalist, you will . No, although i did watch james journalist, you will . No, although i did watch james gordon journalist, you will . No, although i did watch james gordon in journalist, you will . No, although i did watch james gordon in los did watch james gordon in los angeies did watch james gordon in Los Angeles James corden. Two hours of oprah angeles james corden. Two hours of oprah talking to him, not for me. Im of oprah talking to him, not for me. Im sure of oprah talking to him, not for me. Im sure i of oprah talking to him, not for me. Im sure i will. Ive only seen clips ofjames corden. Im sure i will. � ,. ,. , still on the same subject but slightly different angle. The justice calls the shots over royal interviews. This is a rebuttal to what megan said meghan said. Well, who knows . Meghan says she wasnt well, who knows . Meghan says she wasnt free well, who knows . Meghan says she wasnt free to speak and she was complaining that there was official on the complaining that there was official on the line when she was speaking to oprah on the line when she was speaking to oprah on on the line when she was speaking to oprah on the phone. The palace sources oprah on the phone. The palace sources tell the Sunday Telegraph that of sources tell the Sunday Telegraph that of course she can say whatever she liked that of course she can say whatever she liked. Really, i cant be bothered. It she liked. Really, i cant be bothered she liked. Really, i cant be bothered. ,. ,. ,. , bothered. It appears to be another retaliatory piece bothered. It appears to be another retaliatory piece that bothered. It appears to be another retaliatory piece that saying retaliatory piece that saying actually, contrary to the clip that was released from the Oprah Winfrey interview where it appeared that the duchess of sussex was saying she wasnt free to speak there. The source of the nappies are saying on the contrary, the duchess of sussex was able to forge very strong relationships with senior media figures, and oprah herself where apparently, she had another meeting on another occasion. Lets move on. Meeting on another occasion. Lets move on same meeting on another occasion. Lets move on. Same paper. Meeting on another occasion. Lets move on. Same paper. The meeting on another occasion. Lets move on. Same paper. The story were looking at is the lead story, frost tells eu to stop sulking at brexit. What you make about language . It what you make about language . It interesting because they got david frost, interesting because they got david frost, lord frost, a Cabinet Minister frost, lord frost, a Cabinet Minister responsible for our relations minister responsible for our relations with the eu. Theyve lifted one line, which shows. I agree lifted one line, which shows. I agree with lifted one line, which shows. I agree with theirjudgment on this one agree with theirjudgment on this one it agree with theirjudgment on this one. It looks a bit like a line, but he says one. It looks a bit like a line, but he says of one. It looks a bit like a line, but he says of the eu, i hope theyll shake he says of the eu, i hope theyll shake off he says of the eu, i hope theyll shake off any ill will towards us from shake off any ill will towards us from leaving. Which is basically saying from leaving. Which is basically saying get over it and stop sulking, which saying get over it and stop sulking, which is saying get over it and stop sulking, which is what they put in the headline which is what they put in the headline, which is not the best way i headline, which is not the best way iwouid headline, which is not the best way i would contend to try and ease tensions i would contend to try and ease tensions in i would contend to try and ease tensions in the relationship. And weve also tensions in the relationship. And weve also got tensions in the relationship. fific weve also got the erg tensions in the relationship. fific weve also got the erg describing it all as bad faith as well. Lynn, lord frost describes the relationship as fragile with the eu. Fragile with the eu. Well, its a new embryonic fragile with the eu. Well, its a new embryonic relationship fragile with the eu. Well, its a | new embryonic relationship that people in a partnership or right for a long time are now trying to find their way through that. Its quite interesting, lord frost gave his Maiden Speech in the lords. Here weve only seen the kind of extracts on the front page and been able to read the full piece. But in it, hes talking about we will now begin to reap the benefits of being out the shackles of the eu, and he highlights the success of the Vaccination Programme. He talks about how he wants a quick vision of Britain Post Brexit on the International Stage and actually contrary to previous comment saying britain would be stepping back from the world stage, the converse is true. ,. ,. ,. , the world stage, the converse is true. ,. ,. ,. ,. , true. John, i wonder if you could take us through true. John, i wonder if you could take us through your true. John, i wonder if you could take us through your front true. John, i wonder if you could| take us through your front page. Yes, this is about the 6 Million People yes, this is about the 6 Million People on yes, this is about the 6 Million People on a hidden waiting list. Theyre people on a hidden waiting list. Theyre not actually on waiting list, theyre not actually on waiting list. But theyre not actually on waiting list, but this is a potential backlog list, but this is a potential backlog caused by the coronavirus pandemic backlog caused by the coronavirus pandemic. All it is is the nhs federation, which represents nhs trusts federation, which represents nhs trusts and commissioning groups, saying trusts and commissioning groups, saying that in 2020, the nhs treated 6 million saying that in 2020, the nhs treated 6 million fewer people than it treated 6 million fewer people than it treated in 2019. So, presumably, there treated in 2019. So, presumably, there are treated in 2019. So, presumably, there are up to 6 Million People who would there are up to 6 Million People who would need there are up to 6 Million People who would need treatment in a normal year would need treatment in a normal year who would need treatment in a normal year. Who are presumably going to come year. Who are presumably going to come forward when the Coronavirus Crisis come forward when the Coronavirus Crisis is come forward when the Coronavirus Crisis is over. Come forward when the Coronavirus Crisis is over, and thats going to be crisis is over, and thats going to he a crisis is over, and thats going to he a huge crisis is over, and thats going to be a huge strain on the nhs for years be a huge strain on the nhs for years to be a huge strain on the nhs for years to come, i fear. I be a huge strain on the nhs for years to come, i fear. Be a huge strain on the nhs for years to come, i fear. I dont know. Are the british years to come, i fear. I dont know. Are the British Public years to come, i fear. I dont know. Are the British Public surprised years to come, i fear. I dont know. Are the British Public surprised by l are the British Public surprised by that figure . Weve been very realistic about the nhs. Ida. That figure . Weve been very realistic about the nhs. No, its not a surprise, realistic about the nhs. No, its not a surprise, but realistic about the nhs. No, its not a surprise, but it realistic about the nhs. No, its not a surprise, but it is realistic about the nhs. No, its not a surprise, but it is an not a surprise, but it is an important. Of the scale of the problem important. Of the scale of the problem. And the fact that it does underline problem. And the fact that it does underline the fact that the Vaccination Programme really enables us to open Vaccination Programme really enables us to open up again, the problem would us to open up again, the problem would have us to open up again, the problem would have gone away because of this her in would have gone away because of this her in this would have gone away because of this her in this backlog this horrendous backlog. Her in this backlog this horrendous backlo. , � ,. , horrendous backlog. What hes also sa in is horrendous backlog. What hes also saying is that horrendous backlog. What hes also saying is that waiting horrendous backlog. What hes also saying is that Waiting Times horrendous backlog. What hes also saying is that Waiting Times on horrendous backlog. What hes also saying is that Waiting Times on the l saying is that Waiting Times on the targets that they have to meet are going to be impossible to meet, essentially. These are the people that are kind of the forgotten victims. We have heard of case studies in the media of people who either are awaiting for Elective Surgery or might be waiting for things that will change their life if they get those operations, but theyre not necessarily life threatening. People waiting for operations on hips or knees for example, but also we heard some example, but also we heard some example earlier this year, who would be looking for pretty or dull my urgent Cancer Treatment and have to wait as a result. For pretty urgent Cancer Treatment. As the crisis begins to fade away and were left with all the people that had to wait in the meantime. fin left with all the people that had to wait in the meantime. Wait in the meantime. On top of treatin wait in the meantime. On top of treating long wait in the meantime. On top of treating long covid wait in the meantime. On top of treating long covid as wait in the meantime. On top of treating long covid as well. Wait in the meantime. On top of| treating long covid as well. Lets turn to The Sunday Times. Teenage girls and an exploded in of tics. Were not talking about the animals. Tics. Were not talking about the animals. ,. ,. ,. , animals. This is another of the hidden costs animals. This is another of the hidden costs of animals. This is another of the hidden costs of coronavirus. I l animals. This is another of the hidden costs of coronavirus. I mean, it hasnt hidden costs of coronavirus. I mean, it hasnt been hidden costs of coronavirus. I mean, it hasnt been hit in the sense that people it hasnt been hit in the sense that people have been keenly aware of it. The mental people have been keenly aware of it. The Mental Health cost of the lockdown in particular has been horrendous, and its been one of the reasons horrendous, and its been one of the reasons why horrendous, and its been one of the reasons why Boris Johnson has horrendous, and its been one of the reasons why borisjohnson has been so keen reasons why borisjohnson has been so keen to reasons why borisjohnson has been so keen to open up, although he is being so keen to open up, although he is being extremely cautious, now having been stung being extremely cautious, now having been stung by that over christmas. But this been stung by that over christmas. But this is been stung by that over christmas. But this is slightly curious headline. Its about the condition of teenage girls in particular, suffering of teenage girls in particular, suffering involuntary tics where they cant suffering involuntary tics where they cant control their movements. The numbers arent huge in the piece that ive the numbers arent huge in the piece that ive seen quoted, but its obviously that ive seen quoted, but its obviously the tip of the iceberg of ntantal obviously the tip of the iceberg of Mental Health problems. What you make of the Mental Health problems. What you make of the fact Mental Health problems. What you make of the fact that Mental Health problems. What you make of the fact that youre Mental Health problems. What you j make of the fact that youre seeing this manifesting primarily with Adolescent Girls . This manifesting primarily with Adolescent Girls . Yes, its news is and it . I think Adolescent Girls . Yes, its news is and it . I think is Adolescent Girls . Yes, its news is and it . I think is john Adolescent Girls . Yes, its news is and it . I think is johnjust Adolescent Girls . Yes, its news is and it . I think is john just said, i and it . I think isjohnjust said, theyre pointing to the use of social media as well and the fact that girls are using the sites and watching these, but also using it if they have a case to illustrate it, if you like. I suppose during lockdown particularly, the use of social media has surged certainly, whether its friends who have children. Its very difficult when youre at home all day and also when children and adolescents and teens are working, eitherfrom children and adolescents and teens are working, either from school or course, trying to study using their technology. Its very difficult to restrict that use of social media, and thats perhaps something to deal with it as well. With it as well. Lets leave it there but with it as well. Lets leave it there but we with it as well. Lets leave it there but we have with it as well. Lets leave it there but we have got with it as well. Lets leave it l there but we have got another Addition Injust under 45 minutes. Hope to see you then, thank you very much. Lynn and john, thank you and thank you for watching. Next on bbc news it click. Hey, welcome to click hope youre doing ok. I think its fair to say that each of us have had to work out our own way to manage the last 12 months and lets be honest, i dont think anyones coming out of this unscathed im certainly not. Lara, how are you doing . Im getting strangely used to this existence, which i think is probably worrying in itself, but i am really looking forward to being able to see my mum and friends even though you keep telling me that youre perfectly happy in your own company oh, yeah its something ive learned, actually. Im absolutely fine in my own space sometimes out walking, sometimes in reading, escaping into a movie although to be honest, i think ive completed netflix now. But the reason i ask is i wanted to ask about gaming. Are you a gamer, lara . Ooh, i used to love gran turismo, but no more rsi. Seriously . So youre saying you played so much gran turismo, you hurt your thumbs . You . Hmm. I dont really want to talk any more about it because i dont want to point out any more negatives about gaming because actually, during the pandemic, its turned out there have been some real health benefits. Right, and that is my point thats what marc cieslak has been looking at this week the idea that in these troubled times, gaming can actually be good for our Mental Health. Sighs. In the kind of climate that were in, my inability to leave the house is addressed by being able to just get transported to 13th century japan and, like, ride around on a horse or get take myself to new york, manhattan, and be able to swing through the skyscrapers and stuff. Its, yeah, its a great its a great, great way to pass the time. Video games have the power to transport us to a variety of different locations, all from the comfort of our own home. And during the current pandemic when were cut off from friends and family, they also have the power to help our Mental Health and well being in a variety of different ways. We spoke to a Cross Section of people from All Over The Uk about the different ways games have affected them during lockdown. I feel like gaming is used as a Coping Mechanism for a lot of people, including myself. Video gamesjust offer this this escapism, but in a way that doesnt challenge you because at the moment, everything is challenging as it is. But when you play video games, itsjust comforting. Currently with everything. Thats going on in the world, itsjust its nice to have a distraction, something to, you know, to be able to get lost in. I it can can definitely help you, can help your Mental Health, gives you a chance to bond with your friends. During lockdown, were all feeling a bit isolated from each other and not seeing each other in person, so games offer a great medium over which people are connecting. You can see that with kids its normal for them to connect over fortnite and yeah, its great its how people talk. Yeah, cool, lets do that. Amongst the people we spoke to, one particular title stands out as a lockdown favourite. Animal crossing. Released on Nintendo Switch last year, Animal Crossing new horizons allows players to perform gentle tasks while maintaining their own paradise island. One thing thats really great about Animal Crossing is that its just a really relaxing game. Apart from the Pure Entertainment value games offer, allowing players to collaborate on tasks or speak to one another adds a social dimension to lots of games. Currently actively, i play Monster Hunter World and Animal Crossing. I play both of them because i can play them with my brother. He lives in germany and i live here. Yeah, us playing together has been a little bit like a, i dont know, family day out . We just had a whatsapp call and we played Animal Crossing for hours and just talked about things and we talked about his work and we talked about my work. But then mostly, we just spend time virtually together. There is real science underpinning the study of peoples gaming habits. Research at Oxford University has found that Playing Games could be beneficial to Mental Health. I think its pretty clear that people think that playing video games is helpfulfor their Mental Health. I think that they are probably one of a lot of tools that we have available to us, if we know how to play games and we connect to our friends through play. The oxford study made use of two games plants vs zombies battle for neighborville, and chill fest extraordinaire Animal Crossing. Both of these games can capture data about the amount of time actually spent playing them. The study found people that who played more reported greater well being. Our Research Shows actually that if you feel socially connected to those who you play with, if you have a sense of choice and volition about what games and what you want to do in them, thats absolutely correlated with higher levels of Mental Health. But we dont really know if, you know, maybe happier people just land on games that are great for them or if the causality goes the other way. This research only made use of two suitable for all ages games and studies around different titles might produce different results, but its the first time real data about time spent playing has been combined with research into players subjective well being. But its notjust Playing Games themselves which is fostering a sense of community and helping with mental well being. Hello, and welcome to the crashes r us community championship. I set up a league on dirt rally, or dirt rally 2. 0 with a bunch of people that dont play racing games to decide who was the worst racer out of the lot of us. Keep left on the 13th. Its turned into a Real Community thing and a lot of the people that take part say that its the highlight of their week. I live with depression and anxiety and, to a lesser degree, agoraphobia and just doing the streaming, thought of being forced, in a way, to do this streaming every week has really helped to get me out of my shell and deal with a lot of the anxiety. Well done. But is it games in particular that are helping people through these tough times, and can they spend too long playing them . Obviously, you can spend too much time doing just about anything, even exercise, and so the question really becomes not how much are you playing a game, but why are you playing a game . So our Research Indicates that if youre playing a game because you feel like you want to, its probably good for you, its probably related to it kind of fits with nicely with the other parts of your life. But if you tell us that youre playing because you feel like you have to out of a sense of compulsion, you actually arent having much fun, youre doing it because youre kind of like a hamster in a wheel and really, its the quality of engagement, not the quantity that matters. While people have clearly been enjoying Playing Games during lockdown, the use of specially designed video games as therapeutic tools is being explored by healthcare professionals. Us developers Akili Interactive have already developed a game called endeavorrx, for use as part of adhd treatment in children. Its intended to work alongside existing methods. Theres also a game called sparx from new zealand, which has been designed to treat depression. Research in this area continues. Youre the hero, defeating the gloom. Life during a pandemic can sometimes be frightening, but even staying in and avoiding contact with others comes with problems of loneliness and anxiety. Games can offer relief and virus free worlds of Endless Possibilities to explore with friends and family. And sometimes, thats something we all need. Weve seen foldable phones and now its time for Rollable Phones, expandable phones . Im not exactly sure what were calling this format yet, but its the first time i got My Hands On A Real Working Version of it. You just swipe here on the power button and the screen goes from 6. 7 inches to a 7. 4 inch tablet. Like a folding phone, the point is to combine the convenience of a regular sized smartphone with a bigger screen of a tablet, so if youre working or watching a movie, you can switch to that bigger screen, and oppo says its experimenting with letting the motor stop at any point of the expansion so that the screen can adapt to fit any kind of video. Now, i think theyve done quite an elegantjob of this. You just swipe up on the power button and the phone opens up. And swipe down on the power button to close it again. There is a little bit of motor noise, which you can hear in a quiet room, but i dont think it is too distracting. And obviously, ive tried squeezing the phone to force the motor and when you do that, the motorjust kicks in and closes the phone. With flexible phones, people always ask me if theres a crease on the screen and yes, on this phone, there is a crease on the display where it rolls inside the phone. But just like with the folding phones, when the screen is on and youre using the device, you dont notice the crease at all, and the screen doesnt feel spongy or flexible to type on its solid behind there, so itsjust like typing on a regular phone. There arent any scratches on this display from the mechanism but then, it is just a Concept Phone that i think� s been kept very safe and it hasnt been out in the wild, although oppo says it can open and close more than 100,000 times without breaking. Now, because this isjust a Concept Phone and isnt going on sale, some of the key questions of how this would affect battery life, i cant answer at the moment. Other Companies Including lg and tcl have teased that theyre working on a very similar Rollable Phone to this although oppo is the First Company to get a Working Version in my hands. They say they developed this independently and have applied for lots of patents for the Technology Inside it, but theyre not going to sell it, so i asked the company why theyre showing it off. Oppo believes in only bringing products to the market when they meet a really strict product Testing Process and at the moment, we havent pushed this device through that just yet. It is to show our innovation and ourforward thinking into new technologies. Its always exciting to see new formats come to the market whether its foldable devices be huawei mate x or Something Like microsofts surface duo, which is two screens hinged together, but they do typically also come with a hefty price tag, far in excess of £1000. It may be that we dont see too many of these out in the wild until the price shrinks. That was chris fox. I love the idea of these roll out screens, always have, but theyre taking so long to arrive maybe next year, maybe next year. Anyway, thats it for the shortcut of click for this week, go to the iplayer if youd like to see the full length cut, its really well worth it. And as ever, you can find the team on social media on youtube, instagram, facebook and twitter bbcclick. Thank you for watching and well see you soon. Bye bye. Hello there. Very little change. The weather is going to stay disappointing the cold for early march, mainly dry though thanks to high pressure. With quite a lot of cloud around, just a few sunny breaks here and there. For sunday, we start off with some frost around. A little bit of sunshine and it looks like itll turn cloudy in the afternoon. Some rain for northern and western scotland. Temperatures rise a little bit here, nine or 10 degrees for the northwest. Seven or eight elsewhere. Sunday night is going to be another chilly one for the southern half of the country, with some frost. Less cold further north because of more cloud and breeze and showery burst of rain. Some sunshine across the south, well see variable cloud into the afternoon. A few sunny breaks developing across scotland there. Temperature a degree are so up across the board, ranging around eight today in celsius. To be on tuesday look like thats going to turn unsettled. Stormy spell of whether to with wet and windy conditions moving in across all areas. This is bbc news. Im Lukwesa Burak with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. 5049. The bill as amended has passed. Applause. The Us Senate Passes president bidens 1. 9 trillion dollar covid relief plan by a single vote. Pressure grows on the British Government over its pay offer to Health Service staff in england during the coronavirus pandemic. On the second day of his visit to iraq, pope francis holds an unprecedented meeting with one of shia islams most powerfulfigures. And celebrated mass at a service attended by worshippers wearing masks. The Us Government says, its concerned there are a large

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