transport, to use heat pumps instead of gas boilers, and insulate our leaky homes? how is the uk faring compared with its global neighbours? justin, the government says both reports out this week are inaccurate and unfair. is it possible to get a sense of how committed they are to the green agenda? committed they are to the green aaenda? , . , , committed they are to the green aaenda? , ~, i.” agenda? publicly, very committed. last ear agenda? publicly, very committed. last year boris _ agenda? publicly, very committed. last year boris produced _ agenda? publicly, very committed. last year boris produced a - agenda? publicly, very committed. last year boris produced a ten - agenda? publicly, very committed. | last year boris produced a ten point green plan, he described it as a green industrial revolution. a huge increase in wind turbines, switching to electric vehicles, that kind of thing. so the government rhetoric is very strong on the green issue but this budget was very short on headline green initiatives. we saw an infrastructure bank, 12 billion pounds to fund new green developments. a commitment that the bank of england take into account the net zero pledge when it makes policy. but they froze fuel duty, 11 years in a row it has been frozen. in effect, that is an opportunity for a carbon tax foregone. and the effort you mentioned to green our homes. a quarter of carbon emissions come from heating homes. switching from gas heating that most british homes have, with heat pumps, that kind of thing, is going to cost a huge amount of money. the climate change committee says £4 billion per year. they had an initiative for green homes, tiny take up, campaigners have said it is the worst administered green scheme ever. and yet no more money for that, no suggestion it would be reorganised in the budget. campaigners at the public accounts committee saying there is no plan to achieve, no articulated plan anyway, to be fair, to achieve this zero ambition by 2050.— to be fair, to achieve this zero ambition by 2050. steve, is that because the _ ambition by 2050. steve, is that because the government - ambition by 2050. steve, is that because the government is - ambition by 2050. steve, is that because the government is stilll ambition by 2050. steve, is that i because the government is still too focused on jobs, because the government is still too focused onjobs, the balance between austerity and spending, and itjust hasn't got the capacity at the moment to do more on the green agenda? or is it that they will do more in the coming months? i think it's a combination _ more in the coming months? i think it's a combination of _ more in the coming months? i think it's a combination of the _ more in the coming months? i think it's a combination of the two. - more in the coming months? i think it's a combination of the two. and i it's a combination of the two. and another_ it's a combination of the two. and another factor as well. the other factor_ another factor as well. the other factor is — another factor as well. the other factor is important. nearly everybody in politics is in theory committed to a green revolution, almost _ committed to a green revolution, almost. you have the conservative leadership, — almost. you have the conservative leadership, the labour leadership and so _ leadership, the labour leadership and so on — leadership, the labour leadership and so on. but the test is always, are you _ and so on. but the test is always, are you willing to implement policies _ are you willing to implement policies that might at least in the short—term involve voters thinking what _ short—term involve voters thinking what the _ short—term involve voters thinking what the heck are they doing with this? _ what the heck are they doing with this? a _ what the heck are they doing with this? a good example being increasing fuel duty. and they avoid it. increasing fuel duty. and they avoid it more _ increasing fuel duty. and they avoid it. more generally with the budget, ithink— it. more generally with the budget, i think it _ it. more generally with the budget, i think it was partly a product, lociuiown— i think it was partly a product, lockdown in the uk, we are still in iockdown— lockdown in the uk, we are still in lockdown even though there is hopefully light around the corner. so it was — hopefully light around the corner. so it was partly to deal with the ongoing — so it was partly to deal with the ongoing consequences of lockdown. and then _ ongoing consequences of lockdown. and then it — ongoing consequences of lockdown. and then it became a more sort of george _ and then it became a more sort of george osborne austerity —type budget— george osborne austerity —type budget coming up in the near future. but beyond _ budget coming up in the near future. but beyond that it didn't do very much _ but beyond that it didn't do very much as— but beyond that it didn't do very much. as well as the green dimension, there was no real reference _ dimension, there was no real reference to social care, which is a huge _ reference to social care, which is a huge issue — reference to social care, which is a huge issue in— reference to social care, which is a huge issue in the united kingdom. and with _ huge issue in the united kingdom. and with the nhs, another big issue, one of— and with the nhs, another big issue, one of the _ and with the nhs, another big issue, one of the sort of controversies arising — one of the sort of controversies arising from the budget was a very tiny pay— arising from the budget was a very tiny pay rise for nhs workers. so it avoided _ tiny pay rise for nhs workers. so it avoided some of the huge issues whirling — avoided some of the huge issues whirling around the uk and other areas. _ whirling around the uk and other areas. of— whirling around the uk and other areas, of course, with the green issue _ areas, of course, with the green issue and — areas, of course, with the green issue. and it focused more on the pandemic— issue. and it focused more on the pandemic and the aftermath in quite narrow— pandemic and the aftermath in quite narrow ways. pandemic and the aftermath in quite narrow ways— pandemic and the aftermath in quite narrow ways. thomas, in germany of course, narrow ways. thomas, in germany of course. green _ narrow ways. thomas, in germany of course, green politics— narrow ways. thomas, in germany of course, green politics has _ narrow ways. thomas, in germany of course, green politics has had - narrow ways. thomas, in germany of course, green politics has had more. course, green politics has had more of a voice, partly because of the political system there. what was yoursense political system there. what was your sense looking at the budget here this week? the conservatives got a poll bounce, but as steve mentioned, criticism overspending on the help front and criticism also on the help front and criticism also on the lack of green policy that came out of the government, not only this week but in recent weeks. i out of the government, not only this week but in recent weeks.— week but in recent weeks. i have a lot of sympathy — week but in recent weeks. i have a lot of sympathy for _ week but in recent weeks. i have a lot of sympathy for what _ week but in recent weeks. i have a lot of sympathy for what steve - week but in recent weeks. i have a i lot of sympathy for what steve just said, _ lot of sympathy for what steve just said. there — lot of sympathy for what steve just said. there is— lot of sympathy for what steve just said, there is a _ lot of sympathy for what steve just said, there is a problem _ lot of sympathy for what steve just said, there is a problem with- lot of sympathy for what steve just said, there is a problem with the l said, there is a problem with the government— said, there is a problem with the government as _ said, there is a problem with the government as a _ said, there is a problem with the government as a whole - said, there is a problem with the government as a whole and - said, there is a problem with the government as a whole and the i government as a whole and the financial— government as a whole and the financial situation. _ government as a whole and the financial situation. we - government as a whole and the financial situation. we have - government as a whole and the financial situation. we have toi government as a whole and the l financial situation. we have to do first things — financial situation. we have to do first things first. _ financial situation. we have to do first things first. as _ financial situation. we have to do first things first. as the _ financial situation. we have to do first things first. as the poll - financial situation. we have to do first things first. as the poll wasl first things first. as the poll was sympathetic _ first things first. as the poll was sympathetic to _ first things first. as the poll was sympathetic to what _ first things first. as the poll was sympathetic to what was - first things first. as the poll was sympathetic to what was put - first things first. as the poll was - sympathetic to what was put forward try sympathetic to what was put forward by rishi _ sympathetic to what was put forward by rishi sunak. _ sympathetic to what was put forward by rishi sunak, it— sympathetic to what was put forward by rishi sunak, it shows _ sympathetic to what was put forward by rishi sunak, it shows people - sympathetic to what was put forward by rishi sunak, it shows people are i by rishi sunak, it shows people are more _ by rishi sunak, it shows people are more interested _ by rishi sunak, it shows people are more interested at _ by rishi sunak, it shows people are more interested at the _ by rishi sunak, it shows people are more interested at the moment - by rishi sunak, it shows people are more interested at the moment in. more interested at the moment in immediate — more interested at the moment in immediate respite _ more interested at the moment in immediate respite from _ more interested at the moment in immediate respite from the - more interested at the moment in - immediate respite from the problems, that is— immediate respite from the problems, that is to _ immediate respite from the problems, that is to say _ immediate respite from the problems, that is to say that _ immediate respite from the problems, that is to say that the _ immediate respite from the problems, that is to say that the furlough - immediate respite from the problems, that is to say that the furlough has - that is to say that the furlough has to be _ that is to say that the furlough has to be extended, _ that is to say that the furlough has to be extended, self—employed i to be extended, self—employed people. — to be extended, self—employed people. as _ to be extended, self—employed people. as it— to be extended, self—employed people, as it were, _ to be extended, self—employed people, as it were, injection. to be extended, self—employed people, as it were, injection of| people, as it were, injection of more _ people, as it were, injection of more money _ people, as it were, injection of more money so— people, as it were, injection of more money. so all— people, as it were, injection of more money. so all sorts - people, as it were, injection of more money. so all sorts of i more money. so all sorts of immediate _ more money. so all sorts of immediate problems - more money. so all sorts of immediate problems are i more money. so all sorts of i immediate problems are scaring people _ immediate problems are scaring people in— immediate problems are scaring people in the _ immediate problems are scaring people in the face. _ immediate problems are scaring people in the face. some - immediate problems are scaring people in the face. some of- immediate problems are scaring people in the face. some of the| people in the face. some of the green _ people in the face. some of the green issue _ people in the face. some of the green issue unfortunately- people in the face. some of the green issue unfortunately has. people in the face. some of thei green issue unfortunately has to people in the face. some of the i green issue unfortunately has to be postponed — green issue unfortunately has to be postponed. there _ green issue unfortunately has to be postponed. there is _ green issue unfortunately has to be postponed. there is going - green issue unfortunately has to be postponed. there is going to - green issue unfortunately has to be postponed. there is going to be i green issue unfortunately has to be postponed. there is going to be a l postponed. there is going to be a review— postponed. there is going to be a review in— postponed. there is going to be a review in september, _ postponed. there is going to be a review in september, in- postponed. there is going to be a review in september, in the i postponed. there is going to be a i review in september, in the autumn. i review in september, in the autumn. i trust _ review in september, in the autumn. i trust something _ review in september, in the autumn. i trust something will— review in september, in the autumn. i trust something will give. _ review in september, in the autumn. i trust something will give. on - review in september, in the autumn. i trust something will give. on the i i trust something will give. on the other— i trust something will give. on the other hand. — i trust something will give. on the other hand. you _ i trust something will give. on the other hand, you know, _ i trust something will give. on the other hand, you know, there i i trust something will give. on the other hand, you know, there is. i trust something will give. on the other hand, you know, there is a i i trust something will give. on the i other hand, you know, there is a bit of a silver— other hand, you know, there is a bit of a silver lining _ other hand, you know, there is a bit of a silver lining when _ other hand, you know, there is a bit of a silver lining when it _ other hand, you know, there is a bit of a silver lining when it comes- other hand, you know, there is a bit of a silver lining when it comes to i of a silver lining when it comes to the ecology— of a silver lining when it comes to the ecology and _ of a silver lining when it comes to the ecology and green _ of a silver lining when it comes to the ecology and green policies. ii of a silver lining when it comes to i the ecology and green policies. i am talking _ the ecology and green policies. i am talking about — the ecology and green policies. i am talking about the _ the ecology and green policies. i am talking about the freeport _ the ecology and green policies. i am talking about the freeport east i talking about the freeport east hydrogen— talking about the freeport east hydrogen hub _ talking about the freeport east hydrogen hub which _ talking about the freeport east hydrogen hub which has - talking about the freeport east hydrogen hub which has been i talking about the freeport east i hydrogen hub which has been given a green _ hydrogen hub which has been given a green light. — hydrogen hub which has been given a green light. which— hydrogen hub which has been given a green light, which will— hydrogen hub which has been given a green light, which will continue i green light, which will continue with decarbonisation_ green light, which will continue with decarbonisation projects, i green light, which will continue i with decarbonisation projects, wind farms _ with decarbonisation projects, wind farms and — with decarbonisation projects, wind farms and so — with decarbonisation projects, wind farms and so forth, _ with decarbonisation projects, wind farms and so forth, with _ with decarbonisation projects, wind farms and so forth, with zero - farms and so forth, with zero technologies, _ farms and so forth, with zero technologies, and _ farms and so forth, with zero technologies, and hydrogen. farms and so forth, with zero. technologies, and hydrogen as farms and so forth, with zero i technologies, and hydrogen as a future _ technologies, and hydrogen as a future fuel _ technologies, and hydrogen as a future fuel. so _ technologies, and hydrogen as a future fuel. so that _ technologies, and hydrogen as a future fuel. so that is _ technologies, and hydrogen as a future fuel. so that is beginning| technologies, and hydrogen as a . future fuel. so that is beginning to come _ future fuel. so that is beginning to come to— future fuel. so that is beginning to come to the — future fuel. so that is beginning to come to the fore. _ future fuel. so that is beginning to come to the fore. other— future fuel. so that is beginning to come to the fore. other than i future fuel. so that is beginning to come to the fore. other than that, future fuel. so that is beginning to. come to the fore. other than that, i agree _ come to the fore. other than that, i agree this _ come to the fore. other than that, i agree this was — come to the fore. other than that, i agree this was not _ come to the fore. other than that, i agree this was not the _ come to the fore. other than that, i agree this was not the time - come to the fore. other than that, i agree this was not the time to i come to the fore. other than that, i agree this was not the time to go i agree this was not the time to go wholeheartedly— agree this was not the time to go wholeheartedly into _ agree this was not the time to go wholeheartedly into the - agree this was not the time to go wholeheartedly into the green i wholeheartedly into the green project — wholeheartedly into the green ro'ect. , . . wholeheartedly into the green ro'ect., ,, .,, project. jess kerr, in the last few ears in project. jess kerr, in the last few years in this _ project. jess kerr, in the last few years in this country, _ project. jess kerr, in the last few years in this country, some i project. jess kerr, in the last few years in this country, some of. project. jess kerr, in the last few| years in this country, some of the measures on this has come through this. ——justin. it has come measures on this has come through this. —— justin. it has come through higher bills on the energy front, thatis higher bills on the energy front, that is how we have seen change. is it the private sector where change has to come? if it the private sector where change has to come?— has to come? if you look at wind turbines. — has to come? if you look at wind turbines, the _ has to come? if you look at wind turbines, the prime _ has to come? if you look at wind turbines, the prime minister i has to come? if you look at wind turbines, the prime minister has made a huge amendment to increase in wind energy because the private sector sees an opportunity and is willing to pour finance sector sees an opportunity and is willing to pourfinance in. the same with electric vehicles. the government committed to phasing out petrol and diesel cars by 2030 with some exceptions for hybrids. companies now committing to switch over to electric vehicles far faster because they recognise that technology is changing and they need to get in there quickly to see the market. ford, general motors, volkswagen all committing to switch to electric vehicles. so there you see the private sector taking the lead because they see a huge opportunity. heating homes is a very difficult issue. gas central heating is very efficient. the electric heat pumps, which most people regard as the alternative, they don't deliver the alternative, they don't deliver the ready heat that gas does. they are less easy, they are expensive as well, so they are hard to persuade consumers to take on. therefore there is an argument that we need to encourage with subsidies to get consumers to switch over. we haven't seen the government come up with a plan that works or enough money to persuade 30 million homes in britain to switch over, the scale of switchover that we need. so in some areas there does need to be subsidy and we are not seeing the chancellor coming forward and offering that money. coming forward and offering that mone . ,, , ., ., coming forward and offering that mone. , money. steve, is that a surprise, we know for example _ money. steve, is that a surprise, we know for example that _ money. steve, is that a surprise, we know for example that boris's i money. steve, is that a surprise, we know for example that boris's fiance | know for example that boris's fiance carrie symons is interested in the whole green agenda, zac goldsmith also part of the conservative party, very committed to this agenda. is it something the government has to deliver on? are there not many votes in this? this deliver on? are there not many votes in this? �* . , deliver on? are there not many votes in this? ~ , , ., in this? as i said in my earlier answer. _ in this? as i said in my earlier answer, theoretically - in this? as i said in my earlier answer, theoretically virtually i answer, theoretically virtually everyone you meet in politics is interested — everyone you meet in politics is interested and committed to this agenda — interested and committed to this agenda. the issue is how? in the end. _ agenda. the issue is how? in the end. i_ agenda. the issue is how? in the end, i suspect it does have to be government driven. there is quite a debate _ government driven. there is quite a debate about the nature of this government. is it more status than recent— government. is it more status than recent tory— government. is it more status than recent tory governments or not? particularly— recent tory governments or not? particularly recently with the chancellor rishi sunak, who on the whole _ chancellor rishi sunak, who on the whole is _ chancellor rishi sunak, who on the whole is perceived as a more sort of orthodox— whole is perceived as a more sort of orthodox thatcherite, rather than state _ orthodox thatcherite, rather than state or— orthodox thatcherite, rather than state or are. borisjohnson thinks he is _ state or are. borisjohnson thinks he is like — state or are. borisjohnson thinks he is like roosevelt, a big spender, the new— he is like roosevelt, a big spender, the new deal. but there is no evidence _ the new deal. but there is no evidence yet of the scale of the demand — evidence yet of the scale of the demand for the climate change issues — demand for the climate change issues. insulation is a very interesting example. i am sitting in a room. _ interesting example. i am sitting in a room. i_ interesting example. i am sitting in a room. iam— interesting example. i am sitting in a room, i am freezing, interesting example. i am sitting in a room, lam freezing, it interesting example. i am sitting in a room, i am freezing, it is like being— a room, i am freezing, it is like being in— a room, i am freezing, it is like being in siberia. but in a way, the motive _ being in siberia. but in a way, the motive has — being in siberia. but in a way, the motive has to be driven by the government to get these things sorted — government to get these things sorted out, i suspect. it takes to spending — sorted out, i suspect. it takes to spending decisions, tough tax decisions, and on the whole these have _ decisions, and on the whole these have tended to be avoided so far. steve. _ have tended to be avoided so far. steve, thanks for now. the eu has vaccinated about one tenth of its population, compared with a third here. what does that mean for its huge summer tourism season? can we travel even if we haven't been vaccinated? and why has the rollout been so slow? thomas, what's gone wrong with the famed german efficiency? famed indeed! it is now what a case of the _ famed indeed! it is now what a case of the famed — famed indeed! it is now what a case of the famed german _ famed indeed! it is now what a case of the famed german inefficiency. it| of the famed german inefficiency. it is a bureaucratic— of the famed german inefficiency. it is a bureaucratic problem _ of the famed german inefficiency. it is a bureaucratic problem to - of the famed german inefficiency. it is a bureaucratic problem to begin l is a bureaucratic problem to begin with. _ is a bureaucratic problem to begin with. we _ is a bureaucratic problem to begin with. we are — is a bureaucratic problem to begin with. we are a _ is a bureaucratic problem to begin with, we are a country— is a bureaucratic problem to begin with, we are a country of- is a bureaucratic problem to begin with, we are a country of 17 - with, we are a country of 17 governments, _ with, we are a country of 17 governments, one - with, we are a country of 17 governments, one in- with, we are a country of 17 governments, one in berlin with, we are a country of 17 i governments, one in berlin and with, we are a country of 17 - governments, one in berlin and 16 regional— governments, one in berlin and 16 regional governments, _ governments, one in berlin and 16 regional governments, and - governments, one in berlin and 16 regional governments, and they i regional governments, and they couldn't— regional governments, and they couldn't agree _ regional governments, and they couldn't agree among _ regional governments, and they i couldn't agree among themselves regional governments, and they - 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officially declared this particular vaccination safe for over 65s. i officially declared this particular. vaccination safe for over 65s. when britain _ vaccination safe for over 65s. when britain had — vaccination safe for over 65s. when britain had vaccinated _ vaccination safe for over 65s. when britain had vaccinated 20 _ vaccination safe for over 65s. when britain had vaccinated 20 million i britain had vaccinated 20 million people. — britain had vaccinated 20 million pe0pte. germans— britain had vaccinated 20 million people, germans began- britain had vaccinated 20 million people, germans began to - britain had vaccinated 20 million people, germans began to push| britain had vaccinated 20 million i people, germans began to push for astraleneca — people, germans began to push for astrazeneca. it _ people, germans began to push for astrazeneca. it is _ people, germans began to push for astrazeneca. it is quite _ people, germans began to push for astrazeneca. it is quite true, - people, germans began to push for astrazeneca. it is quite true, to- astrazeneca. it is quite true, to use baris— astrazeneca. it is quite true, to use borisjohnson's_ astrazeneca. it is quite true, to use borisjohnson's language, i astrazeneca. it is quite true, to. use borisjohnson's language, you can say— use borisjohnson's language, you can say that — use borisjohnson's language, you can say that germany _ use borisjohnson's language, you can say that germany vacillates i can say that germany vacillates white _ can say that germany vacillates while britain _ can say that germany vacillates while britain vaccinates. - can say that germany vacillates while britain vaccinates. and i can say that germany vacillates| while britain vaccinates. and he can say that germany vacillates - while britain vaccinates. and he who vaccinate _ while britain vaccinates. and he who vaccinate quickly, _ while britain vaccinates. and he who vaccinate quickly, because _ while britain vaccinates. and he who vaccinate quickly, because lift- vaccinate quickly, because lift lockdown _ vaccinate quickly, because lift lockdown restrictions - vaccinate quickly, because lift lockdown restrictions more i vaccinate quickly, because lift- lockdown restrictions more quickly too. lockdown restrictions more quickly toc>~ 50— lockdown restrictions more quickly toc>~ so we — lockdown restrictions more quickly toc>~ so we are _ lockdown restrictions more quickly too. so we are lagging _ lockdown restrictions more quickly too. so we are lagging behind - too. so we are lagging behind unfortunately. _ too. so we are lagging behind unfortunately. but— too. so we are lagging behind unfortunately. but we - too. so we are lagging behind unfortunately. but we are - too. so we are lagging behind . unfortunately. but we are trying too. so we are lagging behind - unfortunately. but we are trying to catch _ unfortunately. but we are trying to catch up _ unfortunately. but we are trying to catch up we — unfortunately. but we are trying to catch up. we are _ unfortunately. but we are trying to catch up. we are a _ unfortunately. but we are trying to catch up. we are a johnny- unfortunately. but we are trying to catch up. we are a johnny come i catch up. we are a johnny come tateiys— catch up. we are a johnny come tatetys when _ catch up. we are a johnny come latelys when it _ catch up. we are a johnny come latelys when it comes _ catch up. we are a johnny come latelys when it comes to - catch up. we are a johnny come i latelys when it comes to speedy vaccination _ latelys when it comes to speedy vaccination.— latelys when it comes to speedy vaccination. , , .. vaccination. does this vindicate the brexiteers who _ vaccination. does this vindicate the brexiteers who some _ vaccination. does this vindicate the brexiteers who some have - vaccination. does this vindicate the brexiteers who some have said, i vaccination. does this vindicate the i brexiteers who some have said, look, britain has ploughed on much faster as an independent nation than the eu, which has come unstuck with this joint approach? hie. eu, which has come unstuck with this joint approach?— joint approach? no, i think brexit is a red herring _ joint approach? no, i think brexit is a red herring on _ joint approach? no, i think brexit is a red herring on this _ joint approach? no, i think brexit is a red herring on this issue. - joint approach? no, i think brexit is a red herring on this issue. the uk was _ is a red herring on this issue. the uk was technically because it was the transitional year when the uk government ordered these vaccines, individual— government ordered these vaccines, individual governments had the space to do it _ individual governments had the space to do it. and indeed some eu members are now— to do it. and indeed some eu members are now operating individually and getting _ are now operating individually and getting vaccines in from various different— getting vaccines in from various different sources. so it wasn't really — different sources. so it wasn't really to — different sources. so it wasn't really to do with brexit and the eu. it is interesting to see which member— it is interesting to see which member countries, and indeed britain, — member countries, and indeed britain, have flourished in different areas of this response to the nightmare. britain was hopeless early on. _ the nightmare. britain was hopeless early on, germany was fairly successful at keeping the death rate low. successful at keeping the death rate iow~ whv? _ successful at keeping the death rate low. why? in terms of that, with vaccines, — low. why? in terms of that, with vaccines, obviously the government did the _ vaccines, obviously the government did the right thing in commissioning toads— did the right thing in commissioning toads of— did the right thing in commissioning loads of vaccines in advance. interesting what thomas was saying, in many— interesting what thomas was saying, in many ways the way germany is structured — in many ways the way germany is structured is often cited as a model for detiverv — structured is often cited as a model for delivery. in this case, having the national health service as a way of distributing the vaccine and being — of distributing the vaccine and being co—ordinated has proven to be highly— being co—ordinated has proven to be highly successful. so some things have worked here, other things have failed _ have worked here, other things have failed catastrophically. learning the lessons or both will be part, i think. _ the lessons or both will be part, i think. of— the lessons or both will be part, i think, of owning the future politically when the whole sort of perspective is acquired over what's happened — perspective is acquired over what's happened here and in the rest of europe — happened here and in the rest of euroe, , , ., happened here and in the rest of euroe, , i. . happened here and in the rest of euroe. , . europe. justin, you were a south asia correspondent _ europe. justin, you were a south asia correspondent based - europe. justin, you were a south asia correspondent based in - europe. justin, you were a south i asia correspondent based in india. india has been delivering vaccines to africa and south asia in general. the rate of distribution in many parts of the world is very different and it's going to cause problems in future, isn't it? it and it's going to cause problems in future, isn't it?— future, isn't it? it is, in order to have a successful _ future, isn't it? it is, in order to have a successful global - future, isn't it? it is, in order to l have a successful global response future, isn't it? it is, in order to - have a successful global response we need people vaccinated as soon as possible to minimize the chance of variants developing. there are global institutions set up to distribute vaccines. inevitably, the richer countries that deal with pharmaceutical companies early are likely to get the vaccine first. inevitably they will vaccinate their population first, but the good news is there is a huge vaccine surplus, if you add up the vaccines around the world, they are much more effective than we expected. we forget that, early on people didn't predict they would be anywhere near this good. so we are in quite a good position globally but it will take a while to vaccinate the world. taste while to vaccinate the world. we will be following that across our output. if you're in need of some distraction from all this, the british royalfamily are doing their bit. when the duke and duchess of sussex gave up their royal duties, it was both the culmination of a briefing war and the start of a new one. buckingham palace is now investigating accusations of bullying by meghan, and harry says his fear of the destructive press intrusion that plagued his mother, now being repeated with his wife, is partly what drove him to leave the country. where is the right and wrong in this family saga? and what does it tell us about the nature of modern monarchy, and racism in the uk? steve, how worried should the royal family be about bombshell revelations? the oprah winfrey interview? they are obviously _ the oprah winfrey interview? they are obviously worried, because elements— are obviously worried, because elements of the institution have been _ elements of the institution have been grieving intensively against the duo— been grieving intensively against the duo who have given the interview. clearly there is a capacity— interview. clearly there is a capacity here for further storms in the way— capacity here for further storms in the way there was during the diana era, the way there was during the diana era. when— the way there was during the diana era, when she started speaking out in quite _ era, when she started speaking out in quite extraordinary ways. so they are obviously concerned. so interesting the nature of celebrity and fanre — interesting the nature of celebrity and fame. i've always been intrigued by the _ and fame. i've always been intrigued by the degree to which the royal family— by the degree to which the royal family themselves attract this fascination, even that we hardly know _ fascination, even that we hardly know them. they are caricatures, reaitv _ know them. they are caricatures, reaitv and — know them. they are caricatures, really. and now this couple, who are not really _ really. and now this couple, who are not really part of it any more, even more _ not really part of it any more, even more famous, curiously. so it is interesting _ more famous, curiously. so it is interesting in that sense. clearly the british press have it in for the duo _ the british press have it in for the duo mv— the british press have it in for the duo. my sympathies are wholly with them, _ duo. my sympathies are wholly with them, the _ duo. my sympathies are wholly with them, the duo. why duo. my sympathies are wholly with them. the duo-— duo. my sympathies are wholly with them, the duo. why do you think the british press — them, the duo. why do you think the british press have _ them, the duo. why do you think the british press have got _ them, the duo. why do you think the british press have got it _ them, the duo. why do you think the british press have got it in _ them, the duo. why do you think the british press have got it in for- british press have got it in for them? . , , , , ., british press have got it in for them? . , , . them? partly because they have taken on newspapers — them? partly because they have taken on newspapers in _ them? partly because they have taken on newspapers in ways _ them? partly because they have taken on newspapers in ways that _ them? partly because they have taken on newspapers in ways that i - them? partly because they have taken on newspapers in ways that i think- on newspapers in ways that i think are wholly— on newspapers in ways that i think are wholly legitimate. i know they use the _ are wholly legitimate. i know they use the newspapers to promote themselves, but that doesn't actually— themselves, but that doesn't actually mean the newspapers have the right _ actually mean the newspapers have the right to then hammer them every moment _ the right to then hammer them every moment i_ the right to then hammer them every moment. i think there are echoes there. _ moment. i think there are echoes there. and — moment. i think there are echoes there, and he clearly feels it, with diana _ there, and he clearly feels it, with diana and — there, and he clearly feels it, with diana and what happens to her. the british— diana and what happens to her. the british newspapers should have the i’i l ht british newspapers should have the right to _ british newspapers should have the right to destroy people or appear to destroy— right to destroy people or appear to destroy them... so in that sense i think— destroy them... so in that sense i think they— destroy them... so in that sense i think they have every right to feel aggrieved. —— the british newspapers shoutd _ aggrieved. —— the british newspapers should not— aggrieved. —— the british newspapers should not have the right to destroy peopte~ _ should not have the right to destroy people it _ should not have the right to destroy people. it is up to us if we watch it and _ people. it is up to us if we watch it and get— people. it is up to us if we watch it and get excited by it. i, hugh, i love _ it and get excited by it. i, hugh, i love celebrity, i'm not excited by it trut— love celebrity, i'm not excited by it but i_ love celebrity, i'm not excited by it but i know there will be global hvsteria — it but i know there will be global hysteria over it, which in itself is quite _ hysteria over it, which in itself is quite interesting. —— i promise you, i quite interesting. —— i promise you, itove _ quite interesting. —— i promise you, i love celebrity. will quite interesting. -- i promise you, i love celebrity.— i love celebrity. will you be watching — i love celebrity. will you be watching it. _ i love celebrity. will you be watching it, thomas? - i love celebrity. will you be watching it, thomas? i- i love celebrity. will you be watching it, thomas? i will| i love celebrity. will you be - watching it, thomas? i will be, i love celebrity. will you be - watching it, thomas? iwill be, but i'm watching it, thomas? iwill be, but i'm slightly — watching it, thomas? iwill be, but i'm slightly dissenting _ watching it, thomas? iwill be, but i'm slightly dissenting from - watching it, thomas? iwill be, but i'm slightly dissenting from steve, | i'm slightly dissenting from steve, because _ i'm slightly dissenting from steve, because the — i'm slightly dissenting from steve, because the doctors _ i'm slightly dissenting from steve, because the doctors in— i'm slightly dissenting from steve, because the doctors in particular. because the doctors in particular more _ because the doctors in particular more than — because the doctors in particular more than harry— because the doctors in particular more than harry is— because the doctors in particular more than harry is playing - because the doctors in particular more than harry is playing with i more than harry is playing with fire _ more than harry is playing with fire she — more than harry is playing with fire she has— more than harry is playing with fire. she has no— more than harry is playing with fire. she has no idea _ more than harry is playing with fire. she has no idea about- more than harry is playing with fire. she has no idea about the| fire. she has no idea about the cultural— fire. she has no idea about the cultural differences— fire. she has no idea about the cultural differences when - fire. she has no idea about the cultural differences when you i fire. she has no idea about the i cultural differences when you join the royal— cultural differences when you join the royal family— cultural differences when you join the royal family and _ cultural differences when you join the royal family and when - cultural differences when you join the royal family and when you i cultural differences when you join i the royal family and when you are an independent — the royal family and when you are an independent woman— the royal family and when you are an independent woman in _ the royal family and when you are an independent woman in california. i the royal family and when you are an independent woman in california. —— i independent woman in california. —— the duchess — independent woman in california. —— the duchess ih — independent woman in california. —— the duchess in particular. _ independent woman in california. —— the duchess in particular. when - independent woman in california. —— the duchess in particular. when her| the duchess in particular. when her freedom _ the duchess in particular. when her freedom is— the duchess in particular. when her freedom is curtailed _ the duchess in particular. when her freedom is curtailed within - the duchess in particular. when her freedom is curtailed within the - freedom is curtailed within the royal— freedom is curtailed within the royal family, _ freedom is curtailed within the royal family, what _ freedom is curtailed within the royal family, what did - freedom is curtailed within the royal family, what did she - freedom is curtailed within the l royal family, what did she think freedom is curtailed within the - royal family, what did she think she would _ royal family, what did she think she would get? — royal family, what did she think she would get? could _ royal family, what did she think she would get? could she _ royal family, what did she think she would get? could she set _ royal family, what did she think she would get? could she set up - royal family, what did she think she would get? could she set up an- would get? could she set up an independent _ would get? could she set up an independent news _ would get? could she set up an independent news line - would get? could she set up an independent news line with - would get? could she set up an. independent news line with herself as a reigning — independent news line with herself as a reigning monarch— independent news line with herself as a reigning monarch of— independent news line with herself as a reigning monarch of news- independent news line with herself as a reigning monarch of news as i independent news line with herself| as a reigning monarch of news as it were? _ as a reigning monarch of news as it were? now. — as a reigning monarch of news as it were? now. she— as a reigning monarch of news as it were? now, she keeps— as a reigning monarch of news as it were? now, she keeps on- as a reigning monarch of news as it were? now, she keeps on talking i were? now, she keeps on talking about— were? now, she keeps on talking about how— were? now, she keeps on talking about how she _ were? now, she keeps on talking about how she was _ were? now, she keeps on talking about how she was curtailed - were? now, she keeps on talking about how she was curtailed andi about how she was curtailed and infringed — about how she was curtailed and infringed upon _ about how she was curtailed and infringed upon and _ about how she was curtailed and infringed upon and so _ about how she was curtailed and infringed upon and so forth. - about how she was curtailed and| infringed upon and so forth. now about how she was curtailed and - infringed upon and so forth. now she says she _ infringed upon and so forth. now she says she is _ infringed upon and so forth. now she says she is liberated. _ infringed upon and so forth. now she says she is liberated. there - infringed upon and so forth. now she says she is liberated. there is- infringed upon and so forth. now she says she is liberated. there is a - says she is liberated. there is a great _ says she is liberated. there is a great to— says she is liberated. there is a great to degree _ says she is liberated. there is a great to degree of _ says she is liberated. there is a great to degree of naivety- says she is liberated. there is a great to degree of naivety on i says she is liberated. there is a. great to degree of naivety on her part _ great to degree of naivety on her part she — great to degree of naivety on her part. she overplayed _ great to degree of naivety on her part. she overplayed the - great to degree of naivety on heri part. she overplayed the defiance she is _ part. she overplayed the defiance she is now — part. she overplayed the defiance she is now putting _ part. she overplayed the defiance she is now putting forward - part. she overplayed the defiance she is now putting forward on- part. she overplayed the defiance l she is now putting forward on being able to— she is now putting forward on being able to stand — she is now putting forward on being able to stand up— she is now putting forward on being able to stand up for— she is now putting forward on being able to stand up for herself, - she is now putting forward on being able to stand up for herself, by- able to stand up for herself, by forgetting _ able to stand up for herself, by forgetting that _ able to stand up for herself, by forgetting that she _ able to stand up for herself, by forgetting that she should - able to stand up for herself, byi forgetting that she should have able to stand up for herself, by- forgetting that she should have been more modest — forgetting that she should have been more modest as— forgetting that she should have been more modest as she _ forgetting that she should have been more modest as she entered - forgetting that she should have been more modest as she entered the - forgetting that she should have been. more modest as she entered the royal family, _ more modest as she entered the royal family. and played _ more modest as she entered the royal family. and played try— more modest as she entered the royal family, and played by the _ more modest as she entered the royal family, and played by the rules- more modest as she entered the royal family, and played by the rules for- family, and played by the rules for a bit longer— family, and played by the rules for a bit longer rather— family, and played by the rules for a bit longer rather than _ family, and played by the rules for. a bit longer rather than immediately wanting _ a bit longer rather than immediately wanting out~ — a bit longer rather than immediately wanting out and _ a bit longer rather than immediately wanting out. and now— a bit longer rather than immediately wanting out. and now as— a bit longer rather than immediately wanting out. and now as it - a bit longer rather than immediately wanting out. and now as it were - wanting out. and now as it were playing — wanting out. and now as it were playing the _ wanting out. and now as it were playing the adversary _ wanting out. and now as it were playing the adversary of - wanting out. and now as it were playing the adversary of the - playing the adversary of the culture _ playing the adversary of the culture. someone _ playing the adversary of the culture. someone the - playing the adversary of the culture. someone the otheri playing the adversary of the - culture. someone the other day called _ culture. someone the other day called her— culture. someone the other day called her a _ culture. someone the other day called her a nice _ culture. someone the other day called her a nice nickname, - culture. someone the other day called hera nice nickname, shei called hera nice nickname, she doesn't — called hera nice nickname, she doesn't really— called hera nice nickname, she doesn't really belong _ called hera nice nickname, she doesn't really belong in- called hera nice nickname, she doesn't really belong in any- called hera nice nickname, she . doesn't really belong in any sense in the _ doesn't really belong in any sense in the traditional— doesn't really belong in any sense in the traditional context - doesn't really belong in any sense in the traditional context of - doesn't really belong in any sense in the traditional context of the i in the traditional context of the world _ in the traditional context of the world family _ in the traditional context of the world family and _ in the traditional context of the world family and the _ in the traditional context of the world family and the place - in the traditional context of the world family and the place shei in the traditional context of the - world family and the place she would have to _ world family and the place she would have to occupy — world family and the place she would have to occupy within _ world family and the place she would have to occupy within it. _ world family and the place she would have to occupy within it. that - world family and the place she would have to occupy within it. that is - have to occupy within it. that is more _ have to occupy within it. that is more to— have to occupy within it. that is more to the _ have to occupy within it. that is more to the pity, _ have to occupy within it. that is more to the pity, because - have to occupy within it. that is more to the pity, because it - more to the pity, because it continues— more to the pity, because it continues this _ more to the pity, because it continues this unholy- more to the pity, because it continues this unholy row. more to the pity, because it - continues this unholy row which the queen— continues this unholy row which the queen herself— continues this unholy row which the queen herself must _ continues this unholy row which the queen herself must be _ continues this unholy row which the queen herself must be terribly- continues this unholy row which the i queen herself must be terribly upset about _ queen herself must be terribly upset about it _ queen herself must be terribly upset about it does — queen herself must be terribly upset about it does a _ queen herself must be terribly upset about. it does a disservice _ queen herself must be terribly upset about. it does a disservice to - queen herself must be terribly upset about. it does a disservice to her- about. it does a disservice to her own prestige~ _ about. it does a disservice to her own prestige. but _ about. it does a disservice to her own prestige. but in _ about. it does a disservice to her own prestige. but in the - about. it does a disservice to her own prestige. but in the end - about. it does a disservice to her own prestige. but in the end the| own prestige. but in the end the royal— own prestige. but in the end the royal couple _ own prestige. but in the end the royal couple in _ own prestige. but in the end the royal couple in california - own prestige. but in the end the royal couple in california will- own prestige. but in the end the . royal couple in california will move the day _ royal couple in california will move the day they— royal couple in california will move the day they played _ royal couple in california will move the day they played up _ royal couple in california will move the day they played up their - royal couple in california will move the day they played up their own . the day they played up their own plight _ the day they played up their own plight guite _ the day they played up their own plight quite so _ the day they played up their own plight quite so publicly— the day they played up their own plight quite so publicly and - plight quite so publicly and constantly _ plight quite so publicly and constantly. some - plight quite so publicly and constantly. some of- plight quite so publicly and constantly. some of the i plight quite so publicly and - constantly. some of the public in britain _ constantly. some of the public in britain are — constantly. some of the public in britain are feeling, _ constantly. some of the public in britain are feeling, when - constantly. some of the public in britain are feeling, when are - constantly. some of the public in britain are feeling, when are we i britain are feeling, when are we going _ britain are feeling, when are we going to — britain are feeling, when are we going to be _ britain are feeling, when are we going to be liberated _ britain are feeling, when are we going to be liberated from - britain are feeling, when are we | going to be liberated from these britain are feeling, when are we - going to be liberated from these two who put _ going to be liberated from these two who put their— going to be liberated from these two who put their own _ going to be liberated from these two who put their own qualms _ going to be liberated from these two who put their own qualms so - going to be liberated from these two who put their own qualms so much l going to be liberated from these ton who put their own qualms so much to centre _ who put their own qualms so much to centre stage — who put their own qualms so much to centre stage of— who put their own qualms so much to centre stage of world _ who put their own qualms so much to centre stage of world publicity? - centre stage of world publicity? they— centre stage of world publicity? they were — centre stage of world publicity? they were a _ centre stage of world publicity? they were a couple _ centre stage of world publicity? they were a couple that - centre stage of world publicity? they were a couple that wanted privacy — they were a couple that wanted privacy in — they were a couple that wanted privacy in california, _ they were a couple that wanted privacy in california, but - they were a couple that wanted privacy in california, but did - privacy in california, but did everything _ privacy in california, but did everything to _ privacy in california, but did everything to promote - privacy in california, but did everything to promote the i privacy in california, but did - everything to promote the publicity of their— everything to promote the publicity of their case — everything to promote the publicity of their case. there _ everything to promote the publicity of their case. there is _ everything to promote the publicity of their case. there is a _ everything to promote the publicity of their case. there is a lot - everything to promote the publicity of their case. there is a lot of- of their case. there is a lot of hypocrisy— of their case. there is a lot of hypocrisy involved, _ of their case. there is a lot of hypocrisy involved, and - of their case. there is a lot of hypocrisy involved, and more| of their case. there is a lot of- hypocrisy involved, and more the pity _ hypocrisy involved, and more the -| . y ., hypocrisy involved, and more the pity. everyone wants to “ump in because everyone has _ pity. everyone wants to “ump in because everyone has a]- pity. everyone wants to jump in because everyone has a view. l pity. everyone wants to jump in - because everyone has a view. justin, because everyone has a view. justin, the question of race has been raised. younger people identify more with harry and meghan. she is the first modern royal family member who identifies as biracial, and she has been vilified in parts of the press, hasn't she? i been vilified in parts of the press, hasn't she?— been vilified in parts of the press, hasn't she? . ., , hasn't she? i am not sure whether it is because of— hasn't she? i am not sure whether it is because of her— hasn't she? i am not sure whether it is because of her race _ hasn't she? i am not sure whether it is because of her race or— hasn't she? i am not sure whether it is because of her race or not. - is because of her race or not. remember at her wedding which celebrated her heritage, it was welcomed and really enjoyed by the british people. everybody said this is a breath of fresh air, a modern monarchy, remember. sol is a breath of fresh air, a modern monarchy, remember. so i don't think race is a clear—cut issue. going back to what thomas said, what is really interesting is the palace's response, suddenly producing these allegations of bullying. i think it is really odd that they want to go infighting like this. harry is a troubled young man, they feel upset by the way they have been treated by the royal family. but wouldn't the dignified thing be to say, we love harry, meghan is a wonderful woman? it is really odd that the palace are going in fighting. that could be the most damaging thing for the royal family. we all know that in conflicts like this, no one comes out looking better. so it seems odd they are ramping up the conflict. you haven't watched the crown, have you? fix. you haven't watched the crown, have ou? �* . in you haven't watched the crown, have you?_ in that. _ you haven't watched the crown, have you?_ in that, the - you? a little bit! in that, the queen defines _ you? a little bit! in that, the queen defines her _ you? a little bit! in that, the queen defines her role - you? a little bit! in that, the queen defines her role as i you? a little bit! in that, the| queen defines her role as not you? a little bit! in that, the - queen defines her role as not having a personality and that is how she thinks the monarchy has succeeded, by whitewashing any personality and just being a bland figurehead. the approach they are taking to harry and meghan is not part of that. steve, briefly, do you think race is a factor in the way meghan has been treated in particular? i a factor in the way meghan has been treated in particular?— treated in particular? i think it's more to do _ treated in particular? i think it's more to do with _ treated in particular? i think it's more to do with the _ treated in particular? i think it's more to do with the fact - treated in particular? i think it's more to do with the fact they i treated in particular? i think it's| more to do with the fact they are shaking — more to do with the fact they are shaking up— more to do with the fact they are shaking up this institution, which i think— shaking up this institution, which i think is— shaking up this institution, which i think is perfectly healthy as far as it is of— think is perfectly healthy as far as it is of any— think is perfectly healthy as far as it is of any great significance. it is an— it is of any great significance. it is an institution which occasionally does _ is an institution which occasionally does need — is an institution which occasionally does need challenging from within. although _ does need challenging from within. although my understanding is it's no longer— although my understanding is it's no longer from within. they are in america. — longer from within. they are in america, they have sought or been formally— america, they have sought or been formally excluded. so they are kind of speaking for themselves. the layers— of speaking for themselves. the layers of— of speaking for themselves. the layers of hypocrisy are many. the british _ layers of hypocrisy are many. the british public have just heard this approval. — british public have just heard this approval, disapproving of them doing interviews. _ approval, disapproving of them doing interviews, but they will sit there watching — interviews, but they will sit there watching the interview.— interviews, but they will sit there watching the interview. thomas, the duke of edinburgh _ watching the interview. thomas, the duke of edinburgh is _ watching the interview. thomas, the duke of edinburgh is still— watching the interview. thomas, the duke of edinburgh is still in - duke of edinburgh is still in hospital. many will feel the timing, obviously they couldn't control that, but should they have pulled the interview out of respect for the queen? it’s the interview out of respect for the queen? �*, ., . . , . queen? it's unfortunate that it is a coincidence — queen? it's unfortunate that it is a coincidence with _ queen? it's unfortunate that it is a coincidence with the _ queen? it's unfortunate that it is a coincidence with the duke - queen? it's unfortunate that it is a coincidence with the duke of - coincidence with the duke of edinburgh _ coincidence with the duke of edinburgh being— coincidence with the duke of edinburgh being ill- coincidence with the duke of edinburgh being ill in - coincidence with the duke of . edinburgh being ill in hospital. it's edinburgh being ill in hospital. it's very— edinburgh being ill in hospital. it's very hard _ edinburgh being ill in hospital. it's very hard to _ edinburgh being ill in hospital. it's very hard to suggest - edinburgh being ill in hospital. it's very hard to suggest that l it's very hard to suggest that anyone — it's very hard to suggest that anyone who _ it's very hard to suggest that anyone who has _ it's very hard to suggest that anyone who has put - it's very hard to suggest that anyone who has put so - it's very hard to suggest that anyone who has put so much it's very hard to suggest that - anyone who has put so much into preparing — anyone who has put so much into preparing this _ anyone who has put so much into preparing this interview - anyone who has put so much into preparing this interview would i preparing this interview would cancel— preparing this interview would cancel it— preparing this interview would cancel it on— preparing this interview would cancel it on account _ preparing this interview would cancel it on account of - preparing this interview would cancel it on account of the - preparing this interview would i cancel it on account of the duke's health— cancel it on account of the duke's health status _ cancel it on account of the duke's health status. this _ cancel it on account of the duke's health status. this may— cancel it on account of the duke's health status. this may continuei cancel it on account of the duke's . health status. this may continue for quite _ health status. this may continue for quite a _ health status. this may continue for quite a while. — health status. this may continue for quite a while, well— health status. this may continue for quite a while, well beyond - health status. this may continue for quite a while, well beyond his- health status. this may continue fori quite a while, well beyond his 100th birthday _ quite a while, well beyond his 100th birthday your— quite a while, well beyond his 100th birthday. your own— quite a while, well beyond his 100th birthday. your own version - quite a while, well beyond his 100th birthday. your own version of- quite a while, well beyond his 100th birthday. your own version of your l birthday. your own version of your own gualms — birthday. your own version of your own gualms and _ birthday. your own version of your own qualms and complaints, - birthday. your own version of youri own qualms and complaints, owing birthday. your own version of your. own qualms and complaints, owing to the figurehead — own qualms and complaints, owing to the figurehead being _ own qualms and complaints, owing to the figurehead being unwell... - own qualms and complaints, owing to the figurehead being unwell... i- the figurehead being unwell... i think— the figurehead being unwell... i think in— the figurehead being unwell... i think in this _ the figurehead being unwell... i think in this case, _ the figurehead being unwell... i think in this case, the _ the figurehead being unwell... i think in this case, the young - the figurehead being unwell... i- think in this case, the young couple can go— think in this case, the young couple can go ahead — think in this case, the young couple can go ahead with _ think in this case, the young couple can go ahead with it, _ think in this case, the young couple can go ahead with it, philip - think in this case, the young couple can go ahead with it, philip is - think in this case, the young couple can go ahead with it, philip is a - can go ahead with it, philip is a redoubtable _ can go ahead with it, philip is a redoubtable survivor— can go ahead with it, philip is a redoubtable survivor who - can go ahead with it, philip is a redoubtable survivor who we i can go ahead with it, philip is a i redoubtable survivor who we hope will see _ redoubtable survivor who we hope will see more _ redoubtable survivor who we hope will see more than— redoubtable survivor who we hope will see more than his _ redoubtable survivor who we hope will see more than his 100th - will see more than his 100th birthday _ will see more than his 100th birthday. this— will see more than his 100th birthday. this is— will see more than his 100th birthday. this is an - will see more than his 100th . birthday. this is an investment will see more than his 100th - birthday. this is an investment in the hope. — birthday. this is an investment in the hope. the _ birthday. this is an investment in the hope, the interview- birthday. this is an investment in the hope, the interview going - the hope, the interview going forward. _ the hope, the interview going forward, that— the hope, the interview going forward, that everything - the hope, the interview going forward, that everything will. the hope, the interview going i forward, that everything will be the hope, the interview going - forward, that everything will be ok forward, that everything will be ok for the _ forward, that everything will be ok for the time — forward, that everything will be ok for the time being _ forward, that everything will be ok for the time being with _ forward, that everything will be ok for the time being with prince - for the time being with prince philip — for the time being with prince philip in — for the time being with prince philip in hospital. _ for the time being with prince philip in hospital.— for the time being with prince philip in hospital. justin, it does raise questions _ philip in hospital. justin, it does raise questions in _ philip in hospital. justin, it does raise questions in a _ philip in hospital. justin, it does raise questions in a serious - raise questions in a serious way about the future of the royal family. the queen is held in universal respect. but other members of the world family have had lots of questions raised about them. has questions raised about them. is steve says, questions raised about them. sis steve says, this is a modernising moment like diana's death. we could see a new, more open monarchy, vomit. but i come back to the point, part of the role of the monarchy is to bland and exist quietly. —— a more open monarchy come from it. pageantry, palaces, at the centre of what they do for britain. i think this kind of conflict cannot be good for them. . ~ this kind of conflict cannot be good for them. . ,, i. . ,., . this kind of conflict cannot be good for them. . ,, i. . . ., for them. thank you all so much for “oininu us for them. thank you all so much for joining us today- — shaun ley is here next week. from me, for now, goodbye. hi, everyone, i hope you're doing all right. it's always nice to talk about high pressure when we're looking at the weather for a weekend, because generally speaking, high pressure equals dry and settled conditions. and that sets us up for a headline that looks a bit like this. it should be mostly dry this weekend. it'll be quite cloudy and it'll be cold as well. it was a chilly morning. we have high pressure perched across the uk at the moment. we have this weather front pushing into western parts of scotland that will introduce thicker cloud and some showers as well, as we head through this afternoon. and you can see them here on the close—up view. i think much of scotland, northern ireland, england and wales, though, should be mostly dry. a few showers across eastern coastal parts. these will tend to fizzle out as we head through the day. the heaviest of those showers across the western and northern isles and cloudier here as well. top temperatures about eight or nine celsius. it was a chilly start to the day today. we saw some mist and fog, and frost as well, a repeat performance in many ways as we cast an eye upon this evening's forecast. we still have this weather front introducing a bit more in the way of those showers across mainland scotland as we move through tonight, meeting colder air, turning to sleet or snow on hills where we could see a light covering in places. you can see the map is awash in blue. so temperatures dipping close to, if not below, freezing pretty much wherever we are. tomorrow should be a mostly dry day. i think tomorrow is one of those days where we start to see some sunshine, especially across england and wales. but then as we progress through the day, we see thicker cloud building. but the north of england, southern parts of scotland, northern ireland seeing some sunshine as well. further north, we're still talking about that weather front generating showers and some rain as well. a bit milderfurther north, we're starting to see milder air trickle in, six to seven celsius. let's look at the pressure chart. so that's the high pressure, highs to the west. we have a weather front moving in. that in turn will introduce something a bit less settled as we look towards monday into northern ireland, western parts of scotland as well. i think our top temperatures gradually starting to rise now, nine or ten celsius. now, the jet stream has woken up. it's been quite quiet really over the past week. you can see it moving in from the west, introducing a plentiful supply of unsettled weather. so this is wednesday. you can see some weather fronts. an area of low pressure moves in and the white lines, the isobars are very close together. that means we're likely to see strong winds. temperatures will rise as well. so we're turning the page over the next few days. a very different feel to proceedings, as you see. this is bbc news — these are the latest headlines in the uk and around the world: pressure grows on the uk government over its pay offer to health service staff in england — more unions have joined the backlash. speaking out for dialogue — pope francis meets one of the most powerfulfigures in shia islam on day two of his historic trip to iraq. concerns over unnecessary self—isolation for school children in england because of inaccurate coronavirus test results. a warning for the un security council that anti—coup demonstrators in myanmar are beginning to lose faith in the organisation. they're usually a sign that spring has sprung —