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weeks you will be able to get a haircut and head to the gym but it will be a longer wait before they can eat inside restaurants like this one. the hospitality industry says it is not fair and doesn't make sense. up to 10,000 fans could be allowed back in to sports stadia from may the 17th. that would be just in time for the euros. our best ever view of a landing on another world — stunning new footage of the moment nasa's perseverance rover arrived on mars. it's going to be a windy day for us all today, especially in the west, and in the north—west of the uk we are looking at some heavy rain which could lead to some flooding issues. drier and brighter, the further south and east you travel. more details in about ten minutes. it's tuesday the 23rd february. our top story. borisjohnson has revealed his map out of lockdown for england and, if conditions are met, we could see all restrictions end by the 21st june. the prime minister said his plans over the next four months are cautious, but offer the best chance to avoid another lockdown. 0ur political correspondent iain watson reports. it's been a long, hard winter, with some of the things we used to take for granted now beyond reach. but the prime minister says, with a successful vaccination programme, the end is in sight. this unparalleled national effort has decisively shifted the odds in our favour. but, with every day that goes by, this programme of vaccination is creating a shield around the entire population. which means that we are now travelling on a one—way road to freedom. and what are the milestones on that road? on march the 8th, all children in england will go back to school. two people from different households will be allowed to socialise together outdoors. care home residents will be allowed one regular visitor. from march 29th, six people or two households can meet outdoors, and outdoor sport facilities will open. from april 12th, at the earliest, nonessential retail and personal care such as hairdressers will reopen. gyms will be open too, for individual use. 0utdoor hospitality such as beer gardens can open up. and from may 17, at the earliest, most restrictions on meeting outdoors will be lifted. six people or two households will be able to meet indoors and indoor hospitality, yes, pubs and cafes, and hotels will reopen. from june 21st at the earliest, all remaining restrictions would end. some of borisjohnson�*s mps think the pace of change is too slow. he says a cautious approach is more likely to mean that any easing of restrictions won't be reversed. but this can't be absolutely guaranteed. the intention is that it should be irreversible, and that's why we are going in the way that we are, that's why we are taking the steps that we are. and even when existing restrictions end, some familiar paraphernalia of the pandemic might remain. masks may still be advisable next winter according to the government's chief scientific advisor, and there will be a review into the use of what the government calls covid status certificates. this has raised the prospect of people having to provide proof that they have been vaccinated or have had a recent negative test to access some venues and possibly some workplaces beyond june. so, if a vaccine—busting variant doesn't disrupt things, life is likely to feel a lot more normal by the summer but perhaps not quite as we knew it before covid struck. iain watson, bbc news. we'll be speaking to the health secretary, matt hancock at 7:30am. nicola sturgeon will set out her plans for easing lockdown in scotland later. it's thought the first minister will announce a return to a regional system of restrictions, with the first priority getting more children back to school, followed by more social interaction for adults. airlines and holiday companies say they've seen a surge in bookings. self—catering breaks in england will resume on it off the earliest. —— resume on it off the earliest. —— resume on it off the earliest. —— resume on april the 12th, at the earliest. the united states has become the first country in the world to record more than half a million coronavirus deaths. president biden has described the milestone as "heartbreaking" and held a candle—lit ceremony at the white house to honour those lost to covid—i9. david willis has more. bell tolls in the nation's capital, washington, dc, the cathedral bell has rung with growing frequency of late, marking each new coronavirus milestones. and, in an address to the nation, a president whose own life has been marked with the loss of loved ones, spoke directly to the relatives and friends of the half a million americans who have lost their lives to covid—i9. for the loved ones left behind, i know all too well. i know what it's like to not be there when it happens. i know what it's like when you are there, holding their hand. there is a look in your eye, and they slip away. an erratic response to the pandemic under president biden�*s predecessor donald trump has been replaced by a ramped up vaccination programme, a significant fall in the average daily death toll, and talk of getting the country fully vaccinated by the end ofjuly. this country has lost more lives to the coronavirus than any other nation on earth, more than in the first, second and vietnam wars combined and, at the white house, where candles were lit in memory of the dead the president and vice president emerged to observe a moment of silence. flags will remain at half staff here and in public buildings across the country until the end of the week. the chair asks all members in the chamber as well as members and staff throughout the capitol to rise for a moment of silence... the house of representatives also paid tribute to those who have died, democrats and republicans united in solemn reflection. later this week the house is expected to vote on one of president biden�*s biggest legislative priorities, a nearly $2 trillion coronavirus relief bill. david willis, bbc news, los angeles. nasa has released stunning new pictures captured by the perseverance rover after its dramatic touchdown on mars. the footage shows the final minutes of last week's tense descent to the red planet, as our global science correspondent rebecca morelle reports. the parachute has deployed... from the release of a supersonic parachute, to the shedding of a heat shield... first look at the surface. an out of this world view — mars, as never seen before. as the rover nears the surface, the dust is kicked up. on ropes, before touchdown. touchdown confirmed! perseverance safely on the surface of mars! and the landing system is jettisoned away. we can't test it on the earth. so this is the first time we've had a chance, as engineers, to actually see what we designed. and ijust can't, it's hard for me to express how emotional it was and how exciting it was. there are new still images, too. a selfie of the rover. and a vista of the alien world it now sits in. providing a glimpse of the terrain it is about to explore. we now have radar lock on the ground. this footage is already providing crucial information to scientists, and they will continue to study it as perseverance gets to work. it's just a taste of what's to come. rebecca morelle, bbc news. that is absolutely fascinating. we will be talking about that later. as most of us will know, moving house can be quite a stressful experience. well, take a look at this. the owners of this victorian house in san francisco have taken the term quite literally — by moving their 140 year old property to a completely new address, six streets away. how can they even do that? the place they want to move do is only six treats away and there house sitting on a piece of valuable land, but they wanted to keep the house it was on. the cost of the move was just under £300,000. there is something rather beautiful about that. it is rather beautiful about that. it is rather lovely. _ rather beautiful about that. it is rather lovely. did _ rather beautiful about that. it is rather lovely. did they leave everything in it?— rather lovely. did they leave everything in it? they would be temted everything in it? they would be tempted to. — everything in it? they would be tempted to, maybe _ everything in it? they would be tempted to, maybe stood - everything in it? they would be tempted to, maybe stood in . everything in it? they would be| tempted to, maybe stood in the everything in it? they would be - tempted to, maybe stood in the front window and waved, with a cup of tea! carroll is here. i heard you mentioning winter. it will be windy everywhere today, the strongest winds towards the west, another mild day but if you are in the north—west it will be wet. you can see what is happening, through the morning more rain pushing on across northern ireland, scotland, england and wales. here in the south—west and in wales you can see some drizzle and light rain, some clerk for the midlands, but the cloud crane this morning from the south—east. the amount of rain we are expecting in scotland has met the met office has issued this amber weather warning. the met office has issued this amber weatherwarning. in the met office has issued this amber weather warning. in fact there are two for heavy rain, up to 120 millimetres at its wettest. it is falling on already saturated ground, so there is the risk of flooding and disruption. this gives you an idea of the strength of wind gusts. in exposure in the western isles, it could be more than 65 mph. temperatures ranging from 8—111 celsius, so again today above average for the time of year. heading into the evening and overnight, we have all of this rain. it is a weather front with more energy pump along it so there will be some heavy bursts, more of it getting into wales, eventually northern england, and these would be good as daytime highs at this stage in february, so we are looking at a mild night. lots more details on the weather in half—an—hour. hospitality businesses in england say they're devastated they won't be able to reopen as soon as other parts of the economy. beer gardens won't be up and running until after easter, and it'll be at least the middle of may before you'll be able to dine or drink indoors. nina's looking at what support�*s in place for people in the sector. she's at a hotel and restaurant in lancashire. nina? everyone was watching closely as to how these plans might affect them. the hospitality trade has had a lot to digest. the hospitality trade has had a lot to dicest. ., , the hospitality trade has had a lot todiuest. ., , , the hospitality trade has had a lot todiuest. ., , i. to digest. absolutely. many of them sa in: the to digest. absolutely. many of them saying they are _ to digest. absolutely. many of them saying they are devastated - to digest. absolutely. many of them saying they are devastated by - to digest. absolutely. many of them saying they are devastated by the i saying they are devastated by the news yesterday. they don't think it makes sense or that it is logical, i am at a hotel in 0rmskirk, lancashire, absolutely stunning, it has two michelin stars, a luxury hotel and spa, and this is not the sort of place that you would be heading to to order six points in a bag of crisps, for example. let's remind ourselves what you can do and what you can't. from the 12th of april non—essential shops can open as well as hairdressers, beauty salons, alcohol takeaways, then, no earlier than the 17th of may, cinemas, hotels. 0n the 21st ofjune you can get your glad rags on and head out to big weddings, no limits on numbers of people, and you are able to go nightclubbing again. so a mixed picture for businesses and the length of time they will have to wait. the prime minister says that we will need to be cautious as it unfolds. it is really hard when we get a "possibly" date, because obviously there's stock that we can order in but it tends to go out of date in that time. it's really hard to arrange staff rotas, to book clients back in, obviously with the added time restrictions. with a date in mind, that could, again, potentially be pushed back. we'd want to wait and get a confirmed date so that we can rule that out to our clients that are waiting for us, and our staff. if we are able to open on 12th of april, at least it gives us an end date. we then have a timeline and we can prepare and get ourselves ready, and obviously it is still two months away, and that is two further months of outgoings in your income which on the business side of things isn't great. we still have rent to pay, we have no relief on those things, so we have tens of thousands going out every month with absolutely nothing coming in. it has been received well in some places, because there is that road map, certain dates we can stick to if things do not change in terms of the health perspective but not for hospitality. mark burchill is the chef patron of this place, you have two michelin stars, i bet you have two michelin stars, i bet you just want to get people through the doors. we you just want to get people through the doors. ~ .., �* you just want to get people through the doors. ~ .. �* ., ., the doors. we can't wait, we are desnerate _ the doors. we can't wait, we are desnerate to _ the doors. we can't wait, we are desperate to reopen, _ the doors. we can't wait, we are desperate to reopen, when - the doors. we can't wait, we are desperate to reopen, when we l desperate to reopen, when we reopened _ desperate to reopen, when we reopened injuly after the desperate to reopen, when we reopened in july after the first lockdown it was incredible. can you understand — lockdown it was incredible. can you understand the _ lockdown it was incredible. can you understand the prime _ lockdown it was incredible. can you understand the prime minister's . understand the prime minister's logic, he looked at hospitality, he thinks alcohol becomes involved and people's judgment becomes a little bit less formal. i people'sjudgment becomes a little bit less formal.— bit less formal. i can understand it in terms of — bit less formal. i can understand it in terms of the _ bit less formal. i can understand it in terms of the cautious _ bit less formal. i can understand it in terms of the cautious outlook. bit less formal. i can understand it| in terms of the cautious outlook he has got, _ in terms of the cautious outlook he has got, but — in terms of the cautious outlook he has got, but hospitality is such a diverse — has got, but hospitality is such a diverse sector. you can't treat this restaurant — diverse sector. you can't treat this restaurant like a pub in a backstreet or whatever. it is totally — backstreet or whatever. it is totally different. it is one reason why we — totally different. it is one reason why we need that kind of support in parliament — why we need that kind of support in parliament. it is why we need that kind of support in parliament. , why we need that kind of support in parliament-— parliament. it is the safest thing not for the _ parliament. it is the safest thing not for the government - parliament. it is the safest thing not for the government just - parliament. it is the safest thing not for the government just to l parliament. it is the safest thing l not for the government just to use parliament. it is the safest thing - not for the government just to use a not for the governmentjust to use a broadbrush approach to keep it as safe as possible because he says if we are cautious this becomes a one—way street and if we are not we have this stopping and starting again which businesses have hated. it is quite a diverse sector, and we have _ it is quite a diverse sector, and we have gone — it is quite a diverse sector, and we have gone out above and beyond, to make _ have gone out above and beyond, to make it _ have gone out above and beyond, to make it covid—secure throughout. to see nonessential retail, gyms, hairdressers, great for them, they can get— hairdressers, great for them, they can get open and some money, but to not have _ can get open and some money, but to not have guests in a secure environment indoors, we are lucky here, _ environment indoors, we are lucky here, we _ environment indoors, we are lucky here, we have lots of outdoor space so we _ here, we have lots of outdoor space so we can _ here, we have lots of outdoor space so we can open up probably 25% of our business in an amazing surroundings that guests can enjoy, a good _ surroundings that guests can enjoy, a good lunch or dinner outside. do ou a good lunch or dinner outside. you think in a good lunch or dinner outside. drr you think in whitehall they get it, they understand the value of hospitality notjust in terms of the revenue generated but what it means to people? revenue generated but what it means to --eole? , , ., ., , to people? definitely not. i really don't think— to people? definitely not. i really don't think they _ to people? definitely not. i really don't think they value _ to people? definitely not. i really don't think they value hospitality | don't think they value hospitality whatsoever. it will be harder to stand _ whatsoever. it will be harder to stand out — whatsoever. it will be harder to stand out and kind of attract guests, _ stand out and kind of attract guests, but yes, we are opening once again. _ guests, but yes, we are opening once again. and _ guests, but yes, we are opening once again, and that says it all. that guests, but yes, we are opening once again, and that says it all.— again, and that says it all. that is what lots of _ again, and that says it all. that is what lots of people _ again, and that says it all. that is what lots of people in _ again, and that says it all. that is what lots of people in hospitality | what lots of people in hospitality are saying. the society of independent brewers says many small brewers and community pubs are destined to fail, uk hospitality says that they are devastated by the news yesterday. many places are heavily reliant now on government support and, at the moment much of that ends at the end of march and april and we need to find out in a budget next week how much more will be on offer. —— in the budget next week. be on offer. -- in the budget next week. . ~ be on offer. -- in the budget next week. . ,, , ., ., let's take a look at today's papers and the front pages are dominated by the prime minister's plan to ease england's lockdown. "the wait escape" is how it's described in the sun, which calls it a "go—slow end to lockdown", adding that a pint inside a pub "must wait until may". the telegraph features prominently on its front page the news that ministers are recommending the use of face coverings in all indoor environments in secondary schools, colleges and universities, including during lessons. the times says that people could be asked to show a vaccine passport in order to attend a big event or even go to work. it says the government is considering whether "covid—19 certificates" could play a role in reopening the economy. and the yorkshire post features a sculpture of the late captain sir tom moore. the artist behind it, andria melka, is raising money to create a scaled—up two—metre tall version in bronze — to be donated to a hospital or other public space. a quick look at the inside pages. there is a saying that time flies. when you're having fun i think it is. in the times they say that time flies when you have children. it is all to do with children growing up really fast. this is not going to fill you with joy when you're waking up fill you with joy when you're waking up this morning with small children, as parents settle into the routine of the school run the number of exciting events in the life may shrink so when they look back in time they recall few events and the perception of how fast that time has passedis perception of how fast that time has passed is all good. i spoke to a psychologist about why time in lockdown seems to go both fast and slow, and it is to do with not doing something different, apparently. do you think time goes faster if you are happier? if you have done lots of things it seems like time has gone slower because you have packed more experience into that time. is thatjust me? we are talking a lot about time this morning! we have a timeline, you will be aware of that! we are interested in hearing your thoughts. lots of people reflecting on what they heard yesterday and how it affects them to stop if you have any particular things you would like to ask matt hancock, areas you think are not clear, there is a lot of detail. certain areas remain slightly outstanding. you get in touch with the programme this morning. there is never a bad time to have a look at a picture of sheep. would you like to say that with a bit more gusto, what it is called, it is a sheep named baa—rack. that is before he was carrying 77lbs of wool. this is an animal sanctuary in victoria, australia, so there he was, unhappy sheep, happy sheep. lovely. any more time on this? another picture? which one do you want? now he has to wear a coat because he is cold. well, look, he is wearing a coat! i was looking at the smile on his face. i didn't notice the coat. there we go, baa—rack, beautifully name. in just under an hour, the office of national statistics will release new data detailing the impact that the coronavirus crisis has had on employment across the uk. such an important issue, this. seaside towns have been amongst the hardest hit by the pandemic. in blackpool, with entire sectors like tourism and hospitality closed down, young people in the town say they have limited job opportunities. our business correspondent sarah corker reports. blackpool�*s famous pleasure beach. a fixture on the promenade since 1896. but the seagulls are now louder than the screams from the roller—coasters. locked up and deserted, it's been a turbulent 12 months for those working here. it is very different, even walking down the prom and just seeing no—one. especially when there was a load of hot days and it was just empty. it was very, very strange. jamie is an electrical apprentice, and like many who work here, has a family connection to the park. grandad worked here for over 30 years, i'd say. then when my mum and my auntie were teenagers, they worked here as well. and what did they all say when they heard you were coming on an apprenticeship here, you have been here four years now? yeah, they were made up with it, yeah. right now, jamie says he feels lucky to still have a job in tourism. there's no—one on the park now at the minute which is a difficult time for us but it has given me, especially, a lot of opportunity to get training. for nine months of the year, this is a place that lives or dies by the tourist trade. the main attractions should have opened three weeks ago. 0liver loves cars, and wants to be a mechanic. an apprenticeship, that would just be everything i've always wanted. he has adhd and mild autism. he told me the pandemic has made thejobs market even more competitive for him. sort of quite stressful, to be honest. because i'm looking forjobs, i try to apply forjobs and i don't get anything other than an e—mail saying that you have been unsuccessful. i keep on looking, i keep on looking and there nothing there. but at the end of the day, if you keep on trying, i'm sure something will come up. around 17% of 18 to 2a—year—olds are out of work here in blackpool. that's almost double the national average. we've got large areas of blackpool that suffer from significant deprivation. the town's football club has a community trust. it's helped thousands of young people get back into education and employment. it's probably been the toughest year of my career. so it's just squeezed the opportunities that were there, hasn't it? absolutely, it was the first step on the ladder for them which they can then grow and develop from there. so having that squeezed and those opportunities removed has made it even more difficult for them than it already was. this business has a long history of recruiting and training apprentices, and managers here say there are opportunities in blackpool beyond the promenade. it'sjust been seen as a destination to go for a cheap holiday or a stag do. and there's a lot more behind the scenes and things are changing, things are moving forward. realistically, it's getting people off the promenade and into the industrial estates. it's getting people doing the jobs that nobody knew existed up until recently. the government has set up a £2 billion kickstart scheme to help young workers. keeley is the first kickstart apprentice in blackpool. she hasn't been able to work as a hairdresser because of lockdowns and is now learning new skills in social media marketing. i'm taken on for six months, get trained up, learn pretty much everything there is to know for social media and marketing and all that lot, so, after six months hopefully i can stay on and carry on. i think last year, i did about, it felt like literally three months of work, that was it. december wasn't anywhere near what it's like any other december, and that is our busiest time. and itjust weren't going to go back to normal. no one wanted to get their hair done, no one was going anywhere. those still out of work are trying to ride out the pandemic and hope the jobs they relied on will come back soon. sarah corker, bbc news, in blackpool. details on the latest figures coming on at 7am. still to come on breakfast. hopes of an easter getaway in england may have been dashed by the latest lockdown announcement. we'll look at if, when, and how you might be able to catch some summer sun. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning. i'm asad ahmad. london ambulance staff will begin wearing body cameras from today, to protect them from violent assaults and threats. the new kit will be worn as part of a trial by staff considered to be most at risk of attack. latest figures show there were more than 500 assaults on paramedics and other ambulance staff since april. more on the government road map out of lockdown, and shops on oxford street, europe's busiest shopping area, have to wait at least another seven weeks to re—open. restrictions are being eased in phases and the reaction has been mixed with some business leaders calling it fair while others feel the delay is too long. this is what the mayor had to say. the thing i welcome most about the road map today is the clarity it provides over the coming few weeks and months. all of us can now see the path. the key thing now for us to understand is the virus is still very much here. when i speak to colleagues in the nhs, i'm told that today, we have five times as many people in hospital as back injune when the last lockdown was lifted, when ten times as many people on ventilators. that's why although it's a road map published, we must all make sure we respect the virus and stay at home. london fashion week ends today. it's been the first fully online event and the first gender—neutral one in its history. this was one of the shows to be streamed. it's by bora aksu. although in other shows drag queens featured on the catwalk for the first time. caroline rush, chief executive of the british fashion council says combining the men's and women's fashion week will continue to de—gender the event and minimise travel. let's take a look at the travel situation now... minor delays on the hammersmith and city line due to train cancellations. that's also affecting the district line. 0n the buses an ongoing strike mean 60 routes across london are affected. check for the list of routes on twitter @bbctravelalert. and on the roads — finchley road is down to one lane at hendon way for water works. now the weather with sara. good morning to you. there's a lot of talk of springlike warmth across london and the south—east this week but it is a chilly start this morning. we've got some patchy ground frost out toward the suburbs and a little bit of mist and fog around first thing but the winds are picking up from the south through this morning, gusting 35 miles an hour through this afternoon. but then a boost in our temperatures with some sunshine, hazy at times, we are up into the mid—teens, well above average for the time of year. and overnight, the wind still a key feature of the weather, perhaps a little bit of cloud coming and going at times. but the temperatures will really hold up overnight with the wind slowly easing, but we will stay in double figures into tomorrow and then it could be even a bit warmer still for tomorrow. again, good spells of sunshine, staying dry. we could see 16 or 17 celsius. looks like that's going to be the peak of the warm weather through this week. but right the way through this weekend, we stay dry, sunny and above average with those temperatures. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. hello, this is breakfast with louise minchin and charlie stayt. coming up on breakfast this morning. touchdown confirmed, perservence is safely on the surface of mars. as nasa releases amazing pictures of its rover landing on mars, we'll speak to one of the lead engineers from the mission. we'll meet the dj—ing doctor who started streaming his sets as a way to cheer himself up after his shifts during the pandemic. and celebrating 150 years of the royal albert hall. how a new video narrated by mickjagger has been created to mark the venue's most memorable moments. the prime minister says the road map for the easing of lockdown restrictions in england is dependant on the vaccination programme continuing to go to plan. yesterday, the first analysis of the uk's vaccine roll—out suggested it's having a "spectacular" impact on stopping serious illness. gp rosemary leonard joins us now. thank you so much forjoining us. i expect you like most people will have watched the prime minister in detail so what do you think is the most striking thing from your point of view that has come out? what most striking thing from your point of view that has come out? what we have not of view that has come out? what we have got to — of view that has come out? what we have got to do _ of view that has come out? what we have got to do is _ of view that has come out? what we have got to do is take _ of view that has come out? what we have got to do is take this _ of view that has come out? what we have got to do is take this very - have got to do is take this very slowly, and still be careful. it's great, there is light at the end of the tunnel but it is a long tunnel ahead. we have to take this very slowly. and we have to encourage people to come forward for their vaccinations. these vaccinations are, as you say, having a spectacular effect but we have to keep it up. spectacular effect but we have to kee it u. spectacular effect but we have to keep it up— keep it up. tell us a little bit about the — keep it up. tell us a little bit about the effect _ keep it up. tell us a little bit about the effect on - keep it up. tell us a little bit about the effect on the - keep it up. tell us a little bit| about the effect on the report keep it up. tell us a little bit - about the effect on the report that came out yesterday about the vaccines. so came out yesterday about the vaccines. ,, ., . came out yesterday about the vaccines. ., , ., came out yesterday about the vaccines. . , ., ., vaccines. so we have shown that both the vaccines. — vaccines. so we have shown that both the vaccines, the _ vaccines. so we have shown that both the vaccines, the pfizer _ vaccines. so we have shown that both the vaccines, the pfizer and _ vaccines. so we have shown that both the vaccines, the pfizer and oxford i the vaccines, the pfizer and oxford vaccine, by the time you have had one dose, after one month, there is 80% less chance of infection and serious illness, which isjust wonderful. we will, to get better immunity, we will need to be giving second doses as well. but we are seeing it already, the hospitalisation rates are coming down, the infection rates are coming down. it's wonderful news and proof that these vaccines are working. we had a delivery of pfizer vaccines yesterday but we were giving 0xford yesterday but we were giving oxford in the morning, pfizer in the afternoon. people ask me, which is the best vaccine? the answer is, the best vaccine is the one that is in your armour. we have no choice about what we are given, please, just have whatever you are offered. they are both so effective. —— the best vaccine is the one which is in your arm. if vaccine is the one which is in your arm. , ., , ., ., arm. if people are hesitant about takin: arm. if people are hesitant about taking your _ arm. if people are hesitant about taking your vaccine, _ arm. if people are hesitant about taking your vaccine, what - arm. if people are hesitant about taking your vaccine, what you - arm. if people are hesitant about| taking your vaccine, what you tell them? i taking your vaccine, what you tell them? , . ., , , taking your vaccine, what you tell them? , . . ,, .,, them? i try and reassure them as much as possible. _ them? i try and reassure them as much as possible. there - them? i try and reassure them as much as possible. there are - them? i try and reassure them as much as possible. there are a - them? i try and reassure them as much as possible. there are a lotj them? i try and reassure them as i much as possible. there are a lot of full story going around on social media. —— a lot of untrue stories going around on social media. if you have something wrong with your car or your washing machine or your fridge, you go to someone who knows about it and hurt in training about it. if you are concerned about the vaccine, please talk to health care professional who knows the details. when i'm asked about it i'm very honest and i say, i had a very sore arm for 12 hours afterwards but apart from that, nothing. we have to be honest and say that vaccines are working but the side effects that they are, particularly after the first dose, are very minor. talk to me about — first dose, are very minor. talk to me about where _ first dose, are very minor. talk to me about where you _ first dose, are very minor. talk to me about where you have - first dose, are very minor. talk to me about where you have got - first dose, are very minor. talk to me about where you have got to l first dose, are very minor. talk to | me about where you have got to in terms of age groups in your surgery for example. 50 terms of age groups in your surgery for example-— for example. so from thursday onwards. _ for example. so from thursday onwards. we — for example. so from thursday onwards, we are _ for example. so from thursday onwards, we are into _ for example. so from thursday onwards, we are into group - for example. so from thursday i onwards, we are into group eight, 55 and above. we are inviting them in age order. invitations have gone out, they go out overnight. the computers the gps use, with all the searches and invitations, they can go quite slowly so overnight our 58 and 59—year—old patients will have got a text message which contains a link. the vaccines for our centre are coming in thick and fast. we had over 1000 pfizer vaccines yesterday, we already had a few 0xford left over, we have another 1200 next week. we are ramping it up and getting them out fast. can week. we are ramping it up and getting them out fast.— week. we are ramping it up and getting them out fast. can i ask you a secific getting them out fast. can i ask you a specific question _ getting them out fast. can i ask you a specific question but _ getting them out fast. can i ask you a specific question but i _ getting them out fast. can i ask you a specific question but i am - getting them out fast. can i ask you a specific question but i am sure i getting them out fast. can i ask you a specific question but i am sure it i a specific question but i am sure it is relevant to others. this person says, my husband is clinically vulnerable and has his vaccination on 27th february, schools are open on 27th february, schools are open on this date of march, —— 8th of march, so he will not have built up the immunity, should i send my children to school or keep them until three weeks after his vaccination?— until three weeks after his vaccination? ~ ., ., vaccination? we have to say the children, vaccination? we have to say the children. it _ vaccination? we have to say the children, it is _ vaccination? we have to say the children, it is essential - vaccination? we have to say the children, it is essential to i vaccination? we have to say the children, it is essential to theirl children, it is essential to their well—being that they go back to school. children have really suffered, the education and mental health and social well—being, it is important to get back to school. if a child is in a household with someone who is clinically vulnerable, then you just have to take steps within the home until that 21, 28 day window is up when antibodies will have built up. we are talking about this later in the programme, it has been a long time, this. we have been under restrictions for many months, and lots of different ways. people beginning to feel fatigue, even though there seems to be hoped now. what would your advice be for them? i would say, it has been really bad, this lockdown, because the days have been so short. we have not been able to get out in the evening. when the weather is better, get outside and get some outside exercise, it really can make a difference.— get some outside exercise, it really can make a difference. thank you so much for your— can make a difference. thank you so much for your time. _ sally is with us with the sport. quite a bit of emphasis yesterday as everyone was tuned in, hearing that the government is going to do, about sport. whether that be a kick around in the park or a huge venue. quite a bit of detail. yes, and it links in to what we were just hearing about getting outside for some exercise. parents of young children and kids in sports clubs, kids playing football at the weekend, will be interested to see what the route is now to normal service. the route out of lockdown for sport was outlined by the prime minister yesterday. this is the plan and it's all subject to the same caveats as everything else. when schools return on the 8th of march, pupils will be allowed to take part in sport. that includes wraparound care. then three weeks later, on the 29th of march, football and other organised team sport can start again. golf courses and tennis courts will also re—open. gyms and other indoor leisure facilities can open again no earlier than april the 12th. indoor children's parties and sporting activies are included in that. and may the 17th is the earliest that fans will be back in stadiums. up to 1,000 indoors, and 4,000 at smaller outdoor venues. crowds of up to 10,000 could be allowed into larger stadiums. it's been a long and uncertain period for those involved in grassroots sport. we've been to speak to some of those affected and find out how they're preparing for its return. at this community club near 0ldham, they're repainting the lines to get ready to welcome back players and their families. chadderton park sports club boasts football alongside dozens of sports for all ages, ranging from rounders, netball, even walking. ian has been a coach for over a decade. this is where they get together, this is where they exercise. this is what gets them talking. this isn'tjust about children playing football as well, it's about the families getting together on the sidelines and having their weekly catch up. so in terms of, in terms of the impact, i think its huge. grassroots is extremely important from mental health perspective, from children, as i say, playing, talking, sharing ideas when they're together in the team. i just think it's fantastic and grassroots is extremely important for that to happen. ian has been missing the weekends here so he is catching up with some of his players. 14—year—old frank and 15—year—old isabella. both play on the same team, and both are looking forward to getting back on the pitch. hi, izzy, hi, frank. i hope you're both keeping well. ijust wanted to have a catch up to see how you're feeling. we have not been able to socialise with our friends, play football, work as a team together. and missing that has been a big impact in our development. what about you, frankie, how does it make you feel, the thought that we can get back together soon and do some training and stuff? it's what most boys and girls look forward to on the weekend. - mum and dad love it, like, i they're there every weekend on the sidelines cheering me on and stuff so it's _ brilliant for me and them. excellent work! with lockdown grinding sport to a halt, some have been thinking of other ways to keep the games they love going. john cavill, who is a tennis coach in milton keynes, has been running online lessons for children in the hope of inspiring youngsters to take up the game. you don't need a court, you don't need a racket, you can use frying pans, you can use a wooden spoon. socks scrunched up into a ball for a ball. so lots of different stuff that you can use around the house. but while outdoor pools and tennis courts can look forward to reopening from the end of next month, others, like indoor swimming centres and gyms, will have to wait a few weeks longer. at least we have a date, right, so at least we know when we should be opening and we can plan for it and get ready. but it's still two months away, you know. it's still a long old wait. this whole year, we've been closed 9.5 months and it will be a total of 11, over 11 months by the time we can reopen. it's been a long, bleak winter where for most of us sport has become a solitary experience. it seems a return to how things used to be is still a long way off but at least now, we can see the path. there was late drama in the premier league last night as crystal palace beat brighton. it was 1—1 in the 95th minute when a cross was slung in, and cristian benteke got the winner for palace. brighton defenderjoel veltman said the defeat felt like a robbery. and they're in danger of being dragged into a relegation battle. england's women play their first match in almost a year tonight. the pandemic has meant that their last game was a defeat to spain last march. tonight they play northern ireland at st george's park, and they've got a new boss too. it's hege riise's first game as interim manager. scotland's six nations game against with france on sunday is in doubt afterfive more french players tested positive for covid—19. captain charles 0llivon is one, taking the total number of cases amongst the players to ten. a decision on whether the game can go ahead will be made tomorrow. scottish rugby say they want the game on as long as it's medically safe. france have been really struggling with that outbreak, it will be interesting to see how they manage that. thank you so much. let's have a look at the weather, carol has the details. good morning. another mile day today in prospect today but it is going to be windy wherever you are. —— another mild day. especially windy in the west and rain in the north—west. some snow above 600 metres this morning will last till mid morning and then fade, but the rain will not, heavy rain today across parts of northern ireland, north—west england and scotland. we could see some light rain across parts of the south—west of england with some drizzle, as heavier rain moves in across the north—west of wales. the south—east brightening up after a dull start. talking of the rain, and amber weather warning is being issued for this come up to 120 millimetres falling on saturated ground so they could be some flooding and disruption. wherever you are it will be windy, the black circles are representing the gusts. into the west, especially, the strongest gusts. temperature wise above average across the board for this stage in february, eight in lerwick to 1a in hull and london. this evening and overnight, continuing with the rain, it edges a little bit more into wales and northern england, and we will carry on across parts of scotland. further south, troia, a bit of cloud around, some clear spells. . the temperatures falling to seven to 12 degrees, which would be above average for a maximum daytime temperature for the time of year. so a mild night. the weatherfront bringing this rain is still with us on wednesday and we have more energy pumping along it so there will still be some heavy rain in places but this is the line of demarcation between the mild air and very mild air. when state brings rain across the south west, wales and northern england —— this is on wednesday. variable cloud in the south—east, the cloud will have an impact on how high the temperature gets. we think it will easily reach 15 or 16 in places in the south—east, but if we have prolonged sunshine, it could get a little bit higher than that. wherever you are, temperatures across the board above average. thursday, still the chance we could see some showers across parts of scotland for example into northern england, but there will be a lot of dry weather around on thursday. temperatures down a touch but for most of us, they will still be above average. thank you, that is nice if you want to get out and about. we know from yesterday's coronavirus announcement that restrictions on foreign travel will remain in place until at least may. and given that self—catering stays and camping breaks in england are off the cards until after easter, how likely is it that any of us will get a holiday this year? breakfast�*sjohn maguire is near bude in cornwall for us this morning. good morning. it is really a two—part story, we have good morning. it is really a two—pa rt story, we have two good morning. it is really a two—part story, we have two dates good morning. it is really a two—pa rt story, we have two dates to look forward to, if everything goes according to plan. with the government's road map. april 12, and there may 17. we are at a campsite here, there are a couple of touring caravans here, it is close at the moment but planning to open again on april 12 but people need to be self—contained so the toilet block and shower block will not be open. this is the cafe area which will not open for that initial phase either, which is a great shame. that's a good morning to these folks here. let's take you through to the shop which does cornish produce, that will not open until the second phase,in will not open until the second phase, in the middle of may. goodman, malcolm, from visit,. you are familiarface on goodman, malcolm, from visit,. you are familiar face on the programme, what is the message now? the message is, make what is the message now? the message is. make sure — what is the message now? the message is. make sure you _ what is the message now? the message is, make sure you book, _ what is the message now? the message is, make sure you book, check - what is the message now? the message is, make sure you book, check out i is, make sure you book, check out the cancellation agreements and covid say stuff but we can plan. but we also want to know what the budget will say because we have now lost two easters in a row, we need to have rate relief extended and vat reduction. this is good news but we will only know if it is really good news yesterday when we see the business support.— news yesterday when we see the business support. where the phone is rin . in: business support. where the phone is ringing yesterday _ business support. where the phone is ringing yesterday -- _ business support. where the phone is ringing yesterday -- whether- business support. where the phone is ringing yesterday -- whether phonesl ringing yesterday —— whether phones ringing yesterday —— whether phones ringing yesterday? ringing yesterday -- whether phones ringing yesterday?— ringing yesterday? people were checkin: ringing yesterday? people were checking things _ ringing yesterday? people were checking things like _ ringing yesterday? people were checking things like if _ ringing yesterday? people were checking things like if the i ringing yesterday? people were i checking things like if the swimming pool can _ checking things like if the swimming pool can be used, we have a beautiful _ pool can be used, we have a beautiful outdoor theatre which will beautiful outdoor theatre which will be closed _ beautiful outdoor theatre which will be closed until the same time as the indoor— be closed until the same time as the indoor theatres open. so there are nuances _ indoor theatres open. so there are nuances. we would have loved it is to he _ nuances. we would have loved it is to he a _ nuances. we would have loved it is to be a couple of weeks earlier. but we have _ to be a couple of weeks earlier. but we have now lost two easters, we will need — we have now lost two easters, we will need some support but it looks like we _ will need some support but it looks like we will— will need some support but it looks like we will have a good summer which _ like we will have a good summer which is — like we will have a good summer which is very comforting on the dark winter— which is very comforting on the dark winter nights. which is very comforting on the dark winter nights-— winter nights. cornwall is not 'ust about tourism i winter nights. cornwall is not 'ust about tourism but i winter nights. cornwall is not 'ust about tourism but it i winter nights. cornwall is not 'ust about tourism but it is i winter nights. cornwall is not 'ust about tourism but it is a i winter nights. cornwall is not 'ust about tourism but it is a vital i winter nights. cornwall is notjust about tourism but it is a vital part of the economy in this part of the world. can you catch up? would a really good summer mean that people can catch up, do you think? there will be no — can catch up, do you think? there will be no catching _ can catch up, do you think? there will be no catching up _ can catch up, do you think? there will be no catching up in - can catch up, do you think? there will be no catching up in the i can catch up, do you think? ii—urr will be no catching up in the summer because we are pretty full anyway, it will be the autumn. it will take two to four years minimum for most businesses, for years to catch up because we have now had to basically three winters. people on furlough in cornwall will be hoping to get their jobs back, one in three households are dependent on tourism. the medium to long—term prospects are good. the light at the end of the tunnel is there and looking brighter but it will be a road to recovery which will be a road to recovery which will take a while. [30 will be a road to recovery which will take a while.— will be a road to recovery which will take a while. do you think that some businesses _ will take a while. do you think that some businesses have _ will take a while. do you think that some businesses have gone i will take a while. do you think thatl some businesses have gone under? have lost businesses, —— we have lost businesses, particularly b&bs with people on the older side but we have also had people buying in and investing. i am optimistic but we need measures in place to support businesses to pay the loans back. it is in the treasury's interest to keep business supported so they can pay back what theyr keep business supported so they can pay back wha— pay back what they owe. yesterday was a record _ pay back what they owe. yesterday was a record day _ pay back what they owe. yesterday was a record day for— pay back what they owe. yesterday was a record day for booking i was a record day for booking flights, but could people be reluctant to go overseas especially when other countries might have stricter regulations than we will have? ., , , , , stricter regulations than we will have? _ ., stricter regulations than we will have? ,, ., have? possibly, and we welcome multi-generational _ have? possibly, and we welcome multi-generational families, i have? possibly, and we welcome multi-generational families, this j have? possibly, and we welcome l multi-generational families, this is multi—generational families, this is the multi—generationalfamilies, this is the time for parents and grandparents and children to start booking holidays in cornwall and in the uk, lets get some mixed groups down and get memories again, there has been a lot of separation so let's use the summer to reconnect family. let's use the summer to reconnect famil . ,., ., let's use the summer to reconnect famil . ., , let's use the summer to reconnect famil. ., ., family. good to see you again. i romise family. good to see you again. i promise you _ family. good to see you again. i promise you some _ family. good to see you again. i promise you some wonderful i family. good to see you again. i i promise you some wonderful views this morning, i know you are a fan of this part of the world, louise, we will be able to see the beach when the sun comes up, being able to see cornwall when the sun comes up. what a tantalising treat, i have missed cornwall so much! it's the moment known as the "seven minutes of terror". this morning we've been showing you the amazing footage taken as nasa's perseverance rover successfully landed on mars. more than 23,000 images were captured by seven dedicated on—board cameras that were specially adapted for the mission. let's speak to one of the team behind it, dr moogega cooper who joins us from california. a very good morning to you. what an extraordinary 2a hours we are having. we are delighted to have you with us this morning, because you know this mars rover and everything they are planning to do inside out. we are going to show some pictures of the landing so can you talk us through the main concerns? it was real anxiety for the team at the landing happens.— real anxiety for the team at the landing happens. yes, there are hundreds of— landing happens. yes, there are hundreds of things _ landing happens. yes, there are hundreds of things that - landing happens. yes, there are hundreds of things that have i landing happens. yes, there are hundreds of things that have to | landing happens. yes, there are l hundreds of things that have to go perfectly for us to land on the surface of mars, to include the parachute deploying at the right time, the cutting of the umbilical cord as you lower the rover onto the surface at the right time or else the descent stage would crash into the descent stage would crash into the top of the rover, so there are hundreds of things that have to go right. and as we saw a few days ago, that successfully happened.— that successfully happened. doctor coo er, that successfully happened. doctor cooper. just _ that successfully happened. doctor cooper, just described, _ that successfully happened. doctor cooper, just described, i _ that successfully happened. doctor cooper, just described, i do - that successfully happened. doctor cooper, just described, i do not i cooper, just described, i do not know where you wear when you first saw these pictures, what was your reaction? i saw these pictures, what was your reaction? . , ., ., ., , reaction? i was at home, actually! she is going _ reaction? i was at home, actually! she is going through _ reaction? i was at home, actually! she is going through and - reaction? i was at home, actually! she is going through and looking l reaction? i was at home, actually! | she is going through and looking at the first image, i was at home —— just going through and looking at the images, i was doing a live chat at home. when i saw the images today, i was at a happy hour with a lot of the energies who were involved, we were sitting there with our jaws involved, we were sitting there with ourjaws on the ground —— with the engineers involved. people were in tears, it was the first time that people who designed this saw it with their own eyes. i bet people who designed this saw it with their own eyes-— their own eyes. i bet it was a very ha - their own eyes. i bet it was a very happy happy _ their own eyes. i bet it was a very happy happy hour! _ their own eyes. i bet it was a very happy happy hour! let's - their own eyes. i bet it was a very happy happy hour! let's go i their own eyes. i bet it was a very. happy happy hour! let's go forward their own eyes. i bet it was a very i happy happy hour! let's go forward a little bit, so we now have it on the surface of mars sending back pictures? surface of mars sending back ictures? , , ., ., pictures? yes, it is amazing the footaae pictures? yes, it is amazing the footage they — pictures? yes, it is amazing the footage they released. - pictures? yes, it is amazing the footage they released. you i pictures? yes, it is amazing the footage they released. you can| pictures? yes, it is amazing the i footage they released. you can see images of the wheels, you can see the rocks next to the wheels which a lot of the scientists are extremely excited about, they find these rocks with holes in them which could be potentially volcanic. they are working with processing what they find in those images, our team of great scientists. it's amazing, we can see the top deck, we can see some of the easter eggs, it was amazing the pictures coming back. can you explain that, what do you mean when you say easter eggs? these mean when you say easter eggs? these are thin . s mean when you say easter eggs? these are things that — mean when you say easter eggs? these are things that are _ mean when you say easter eggs? these are things that are hidden _ mean when you say easter eggs? these are things that are hidden on _ mean when you say easter eggs? turf are things that are hidden on the rover, around the rover, or in the parachute, for example. it takes a little bit of interrogation to figure out but it is a fun riddle for the public!— figure out but it is a fun riddle for the ublic! ., ., , ., , for the public! 0k. your “ob, i hope i aet our for the public! 0k. your “ob, i hope i get your the t for the public! 0k. your “ob, i hope i get your title right i for the public! 0k. yourjob, i hope i get your title right here, - for the public! 0k. yourjob, i hope i get your title right here, you i for the public! 0k. yourjob, i hope i get your title right here, you are l i get your title right here, you are the lead of planetary protection for the lead of planetary protection for the mars 2020 mission. what does that mean? what are you in charge of? that sounds like a big job. it is. it is myjob and my team'sjob to make sure that as we put this rover together, and notjust the rover, the entire space craft, the descent and cruising stage, all the things you saw in these images and videos released today, they have to beat with in an upper limit of microbial burden. we needed to make sure it was clean so we do not send microbial hitchhikers to a place we are trying to explore. so microbial hitchhikers to a place we are trying to explore.— microbial hitchhikers to a place we are trying to explore. so the danger is we take an _ are trying to explore. so the danger is we take an infection _ are trying to explore. so the danger is we take an infection to _ are trying to explore. so the danger is we take an infection to that i is we take an infection to that planet? is we take an infection to that lanet? , ., �* ., ., ., planet? yes, we don't want to do that. and planet? yes, we don't want to do that- and it _ planet? yes, we don't want to do that. and it serves _ planet? yes, we don't want to do that. and it serves a _ planet? yes, we don't want to do that. and it serves a separate i that. and it serves a separate purpose. if we are trying to look for ancient microbial life, you do not want to have any contaminants on your hardware. it serves two purposes. your hardware. it serves two purposes-— your hardware. it serves two purposes. your hardware. it serves two n-uroses, ., y., ., o’ , purposes. how can you make sure, doctor cooper. _ purposes. how can you make sure, doctor cooper, and _ purposes. how can you make sure, doctor cooper, and this _ purposes. how can you make sure, doctor cooper, and this is - purposes. how can you make sure, doctor cooper, and this is the i purposes. how can you make sure, doctor cooper, and this is the holy| doctor cooper, and this is the holy grail, is there any form of life on mars? if they find anything, do they bring it back?— bring it back? yeah, that is the ultimate goal. _ bring it back? yeah, that is the ultimate goal. the _ bring it back? yeah, that is the ultimate goal. the instruments bring it back? yeah, that is the i ultimate goal. the instruments that are on board are fantastic, they will tell us whether or not there are these bio signatures which are these chemical structures which will allow us to understand if there is something similar to life as we know it. but to really confirm whether or not we find extent ancient microbial life, we need to bring samples back. —— extinct life. this is where i will start to sound like a nonscientist. is there a risk, and do you ever discussed this in your scientific communities, of bringing back something which could be a risk to earth, to us? if you are looking for some kind of life or something that represents life, do you ever have those conversations? filth. that represents life, do you ever have those conversations? oh, yes, those conversations _ have those conversations? oh, yes, those conversations have _ have those conversations? oh, yes, those conversations have been i those conversations have been happening since the inception of the idea of this, which was about 30 years ago. many people have been thinking about this. this is the closest we have been getting to this being a reality. the sample return part will not be done unless it is proven to be safe, not only within nasa, it is a nasa and european space agencyjoint effort. the world will be on the same page to make sure we do this in the safest way possible. sure we do this in the safest way ossible. �* ,., ., .., sure we do this in the safest way ossible. �* ,., ., .. , possible. i'm so glad we caught up with ou possible. i'm so glad we caught up with you today _ possible. i'm so glad we caught up with you today and _ possible. i'm so glad we caught up with you today and i'm _ possible. i'm so glad we caught up with you today and i'm glad - possible. i'm so glad we caught up with you today and i'm glad you i possible. i'm so glad we caught up i with you today and i'm glad you have been able to celebrate everything so far. everyone, especially in the current times, it's so interesting to have something else to look at. good to speak to you today, thank you very much, doctor cooper. thank ou for you very much, doctor cooper. thank you for having — you very much, doctor cooper. thank you for having me. _ you for having me. did she answer all of your questions?— did she answer all of your questions? did she answer all of your cuestions? , , ., , ., questions? yes, they worry about brin . in: questions? yes, they worry about bringing something _ questions? yes, they worry about bringing something back! - questions? yes, they worry about bringing something back! i'm i questions? yes, they worry about. bringing something back! i'm glad, i'm bringing something back! i'm glad, i'm glad _ bringing something back! i'm glad, i'm glad they're worried about that! time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning. i'm asad ahmad. london ambulance staff will begin wearing body cameras from today, to protect them from violent assaults and threats. the new kit will be worn as part of a trial — by staff considered to be most at risk of attack. latest figures show there were more than 500 assaults on ambulance staff since april. more on the government roadmap out of lockdown and shops — including those on oxford street — europe's busiest shopping area — have to wait at least another seven weeks to re—open. restrictions are being eased in phases and the reaction has been mixed with some business leaders calling it fair — while others feel the delay is too long. this is what the mayor had to say. the thing i welcome most about the road map today is the clarity it provides over the coming few weeks and months. all of us can now see the path. the key thing now for us to understand is the virus is still very much here. when i speak to colleagues in the nhs, i'm told that today, we have five times as many people in hospital as back injune when the last lockdown was lifted, with ten times as many people on ventilators. that's why although it's a road map published, we must all make sure we respect the virus and stay at home. london fashion week ends today. it's been the first fully online event and the first gender—neutral one in its history. this was one of the shows to be streamed. it's by bora aksu. although in other shows, drag queens featured on the catwalk for the first time. caroline rush, chief executive of the british fashion council says combining the men's and women's fashion week — "will continue to de—gender the event and minimise travel." let's take a look at the travel situation now. minor delays on the hammersmith and city line due to train cancellations. 0n the buses an ongoing strike mean 60 routes across london are affected. check for the list of routes on twitter — @bbctravelalert and on the roads — finchley road is down to one lane at hendon way for water works. now the weather with sara. good morning to you. there's a lot of talk of springlike warmth across london and the south—east this week but it is a chilly start this morning. we've got some patchy ground frost out toward the suburbs and a little bit of mist and fog around first thing but the winds are picking up from the south through this morning, gusting 35 mph through this afternoon. but then a boost in our temperatures with some sunshine, hazy at times, we are up into the mid—teens, above average for the time of year. and overnight, the wind still a key feature of the weather, perhaps a little bit of cloud coming and going at times. but the temperatures will really hold up overnight with the wind slowly easing, but we will stay in double figures into tomorrow and then it could be even a bit warmer still for tomorrow. again, good spells of sunshine, staying dry. we could see 16 or 17 celsius. looks like that's going to be the peak of the warm weather through this week. but right the way through this weekend, we stay dry, sunny and above average with those temperatures. plenty more on our website at the usual address. those include two interesting stories on facemasks. good morning and welcome to breakfast with louise minchin and charlie stayt. 0ur headlines today: borisjohnson promises a "one—way road to freedom" as he sets out his plan to relax england's lockdown restrictions. there is light ahead, leading us to a spring and summer which i think will be seasons of hope, looking and feeling incomparably better for us all and from which we will not go back. meetings inside could be allowed from mid—may, withjune 21st the earliest possible date when all restrictions can be lifted. schools are facing virus testing for secondary pupils and there will be master in classrooms across england when everyone returns, from march the 8th. we will be looking at how teachers will make that work. 12 weeks before you can sit in a restaurant like this one, seven weeks — restaurant like this one, seven weeks before you can get your hair done _ weeks before you can get your hair done and _ weeks before you can get your hair done and hit the gym. what will that done and hit the gym. what will that do do _ done and hit the gym. what will that do do the _ done and hit the gym. what will that do do the jobs market? the latest unemployment figures coming up. our best ever view of a landing on another world — stunning new footage of the moment nasa's perseverance rover arrived on mars. good morning. another mild day ahead today. we have a windy day ahead, especially with exposure in the west, and some heavy rain across the north and west of the uk. i will have all the details in about ten minutes. it's tuesday the 23rd february. our top story. borisjohnson has revealed his plan to end lockdown in england, which could see covid restrictions fully eased by the 21st ofjune if strict conditions are met. the prime minister says his plans over the next four months are cautious, but offer the best chance to avoid another lockdown. 0ur political correspondent iain watson reports. it's been a long, hard winter, with some of the things we used to take for granted now beyond reach. but the prime minister says, with a successful vaccination programme, the end is in sight. this unparalleled national effort has decisively shifted the odds in our favour. but, with every day that goes by, this programme of vaccination is creating a shield around the entire population. which means that we are now travelling on a one—way road to freedom. and what are the milestones on that road? on march the 8th, all children in england will go back to school. two people from different households will be allowed to socialise together outdoors. care home residents will be allowed one regular visitor. from march 29th, six people or two households can meet outdoors, and outdoor sport facilities will open. from april 12th, at the earliest, nonessential retail and personal care such as hairdressers will reopen. gyms will be open too, for individual use. 0utdoor hospitality such as beer gardens can open up. and from may 17th, at the earliest, most restrictions on meeting outdoors will be lifted. six people or two households will be able to meet indoors and indoor hospitality, yes, pubs and cafes, and hotels will reopen. from june 21st at the earliest, all remaining restrictions would end. some of borisjohnson's mps think the pace of change is too slow. he says a cautious approach is more likely to mean that any easing of restrictions won't be reversed. but this can't be absolutely guaranteed. the intention is that it should be irreversible, and that's why we are going in the way that we are, that's why we are taking the steps that we are. and even when existing restrictions end, some familiar paraphernalia of the pandemic might remain. masks may still be advisable next winter according to the government's chief scientific advisor, and there will be a review into the use of what the government calls covid status certificates. this has raised the prospect of people having to provide proof that they have been vaccinated or have had a recent negative test to access some venues and possibly some workplaces beyond june. so, if a vaccine—busting variant doesn't disrupt things, life is likely to feel a lot more normal by the summer but perhaps not quite as we knew it before covid struck. iain watson, bbc news. we'll be speaking to the health secretary, matt hancock, at 7:30am. if there is anything you want clarity on that you didn't hear from what came out yesterday, please let us know. 0ur chief political correspondent adam fleming joins us now. you will have been looking at this. there are still some gaps, arnth per? there are still some gaps, arnth er? ., , , , ., per? hello, the first big bit of uncertainty — per? hello, the first big bit of uncertainty is _ per? hello, the first big bit of uncertainty is that _ per? hello, the first big bit of uncertainty is that beyond i per? hello, the first big bit of uncertainty is that beyond the per? hello, the first big bit of i uncertainty is that beyond the dates in march, the other dates that have been pencilled in in april, may and june are not guaranteed because steps that are unlocking in england will only happen if the data about the number of cases and the numbers in hospital supports that. they are contingent, if you like, than definitive, which some newspapers and conservative mps are kind of an agony about, because it is going to take so long and they would like it to go faster. there are some big questions that have been put into government reviews to be answered. there are four of them. what happens to travel, people coming into the uk for a holiday, and people leaving? what happens to social distancing in physical contact between people? do you have vaccine certificates or to take abates to show that you have been tested, so that you can use services or go to certain places in the future, or what about big events? how do you get everyone back into football steadier and back into gigs and concerts and things like that, so there are four areas where the government hasn't quite got the position yet and it is all wrapped up position yet and it is all wrapped up in the bigger uncertainty about will we be able to do what the government hopes we can do on these dates? �* . . ~ government hopes we can do on these dates? �* . ., ~ , ., ., government hopes we can do on these dates? �* . ., ~ ,, ., _, dates? adam, thank you for your anal sis. nicola sturgeon will set out her plans for easing lockdown in scotland later. it's thought the first minister will announce a return to a regional system of restrictions, with the first priority getting more children back to school, followed by more social interaction for adults. airlines and holiday companies say they've seen a surge in bookings in the past 2a hours. the increase comes despite borisjohnson�*s confirmation that a ban on foreign travel will remain in place until at least mid—may. self—catering breaks in england will resume by 12th of april at the earliest. the latest unemployment figures have just been released by the office for national statistics. nina warhurst has more on this. nina, what do the numbers tell us? it will not surprise you that the numbers have gone up, unemployment at 5.1% for october — december, an increase of 5% for the three months earlier, translating to1.71i million earlier, translating to 1.74 million people, one and three quarters million people out work over that period, probably not a huge surprise, you'll remember in october there was that complex system of tiers throughout the uk, november, full national lockdown and december are slightly disappointing spend in some areas is what we thought might be quite a spendy christmas ended up being more reserved. as for benefits, these are the numbers to january, benefits claimants stood at 2.6 million people, roughly the same as december. up significantly from march, 1.2 million people claiming benefits in march last year, so that is an increase of more than double the amount. as we keep saying, there may be a sense at the moment that we are heading out of this economic crisis. here, the proprietors are very much still in the eye of the storm, it is a wait until they can welcome customers. 60,000 jobs have gonein welcome customers. 60,000 jobs have gone in hospitality, the expectation is that many more will follow, not least of course because many businesses are being propped up by the furlough scheme, reductions in vat on business rates. will they be extended? we expect confirmation of those questions next week in the budget. those questions next week in the budaet. . . ~' ,, the united states has become the first country in the world to record more than half a million coronavirus deaths. president biden last night held a candle—lit ceremony at the white house to honour those lost to covid—19 and described the milestone as "heartbreaking". nasa has released stunning new pictures captured on mars. the footage was filmed during the final four minutes of the rover�*s descent — and included the moment it was slowly lowered to the surface by a rocket backpack. when i saw the first images that were broadcast at the press conference today, i was actually at a happy hour with a lot of the engineers who were behind the images that you saw. so we were just sitting there, ourjaws on the ground, some people shedding tears, because this is the first time even the entry descent and landing people, the people who designed this, finally saw it with their own eyes for the first time. carol has the details of the weather on mars for us! we know that it is windy. they listened in and you could hear the wind whistling. it is could hear the wind whistling. it is certainly windy _ could hear the wind whistling. it 3 certainly windy where we could hear the wind whistling. it 2 certainly windy where we are today. you're not going with the mars at all! 1 you're not going with the mars at all! ., , . . you're not going with the mars at all! ., , ., ., ., ., ., all! i only have a minute and a half to net the all! i only have a minute and a half to get the uk _ all! i only have a minute and a half to get the uk forecast _ all! i only have a minute and a half to get the uk forecast done! - all! i only have a minute and a half to get the uk forecast done! this | to get the uk forecast done! this morning we are looking at some beautiful sunrises across parts of the uk. this one taken earlier in london. we have a windy day ahead as charlie alluded to. and also a wet day if you are in the north and west of the uk. you can see all the rain coming in across scotland and north—west england, getting into north—west england, getting into north—west and northern ireland. further south it is drier and brighter with the cloud you currently have continuing to break up. through the day we could see that rain affecting a bit more of wales and heading down towards the south—west. the met office has in an amber weather warning for heavy rain up amber weather warning for heavy rain up to 120 millimetres at its wettest points, and the ground is already saturated so there's the risk of flooding and disruption. the wind gusts you can expect are represented in the black circles, with the strongest winds out towards the west, especially in exposure, where we could have gusts for example in the outer hebrides of 70 mph. temperatures today, nine in the north, 13 and 14 further south. tonight is going to be very mild for the time of year. we continue with that mild theme going through the rest of the week. i will have a longer broadcast in half an hour, charlie and louise.— charlie and louise. perfectly on time. charlie and louise. perfectly on time- who _ charlie and louise. perfectly on time. who needs _ charlie and louise. perfectly on time. who needs the _ charlie and louise. perfectly on time. who needs the weather l charlie and louise. perfectly on | time. who needs the weather on charlie and louise. perfectly on - time. who needs the weather on mars? maybe the rover needs it! schools will fully reopen in england in less than a fortnight, but when secondary pupils arrive for class they'll face a new covid testing programme and other safety measures. let's have a look at how it will work. over the first two weeks of term, schools and college students will be asked to take three covid tests on site and one at home. after that, pupils will have twice—weekly tests. they will be carried out at home by parents, carers or the students themselves. there are no current plans to test primary school children. face coverings will also be required indoors at secondary schools, including in classrooms when social distancing isn't possible. so how do families feel about the big reopening? brea kfast�*s tim muffett has been finding out. half term is over, and home—schooling starts today. experiences children and parents are unlikely ever to forget. esther lives in nottinghamshire and has eight—year—old triplets. the family appeared on breakfast last week. i am bentley. i'm annelie. and i'm warren. it's not easy to do home—schooling. kids are going to be kids. we try to do our best, how the school wants us to do it, but sometimes it's not very possible. today, we are waiting for the prime minister's announcement. so is glenn, a single dad of four from maidstone in kent. home—schooling has been really tough. i'm not going to lie. i feel like i have done an awfuljob of being either a parent, a teacher orjust a full—time worker, trying to hold down a full—time job. i can do about one and a half of those things, so i'm always going to fail at at least one. it's been tough from my perspective, but tougher still for the kids. it's been really difficult trying to focus on actually learning instead of being distracted by all other things around the house. and for teachers, it is all change, again. this has absolutely tested all school teachers to the limit. mossbourne academy in east london has a primary and a secondary section. two weeks from today, pupils and students in all schools and further education settings can safely return to face—to—face teaching, supported by twice—weekly testing of secondary school and college pupils. rebecca, what's your reaction? optimistic is the word. i feel now we have a date to work towards. i think that there is clarity where there hasn't been clarity. over the next few days guidance will come out. myself and my leadership team, as all principals across the country and head teachers will no doubt be pulling that apart and scouring over it. what i will say is, as educators, we will go the extra mile to do everything within our power to make it safe for children to return. you have had some pupils here, but you are going to go back to 100% attendance. what's that going to be like to readjust? really, i think it'sjust about resettling the children back into the routines that keep them safe and happy. i think for children, they willjust be delighted to come back to school. from one family, a mixed reaction. we're going to tell you exactly how we feel about the prime minister's decision, and i'm going to start. i don't want to go back to school because i don't get time to write my own books at school. but i do at home. and i get to spend more time with my family. i feel happy and sad at the same time because i want to spend more time with my family, but i also want to meet my friends. i don't know about you guys but i'm very happy about. the prime minister's decision. i want to go and see my friends and see my teacher and - my head teacher and i especially love the assemblies. _ to be fair, as much as i'm very happy, i'm going to miss the kids. but it's nice to know that they're going through the normal process of life that we all went through. having children aged from seven to 16 raises different concerns for glenn. the secondary school children, they've got a bit more responsibility, so i can trust them to try and do the best thing at least. trying to get a seven—year—old not to be running around and playing with his mates really closely is next to impossible. going back in march is going to be a relief for seeing my friends and my teachers again. i need the social interaction of the whole school thing so i don't go crazy with all this. another shift, another gear change in england, in the world of education. lessons learned, it's hoped, but new challenges ahead. tim muffett, bbc news. let's talk about some of those new challenges. our education correspondent, danjohnson, is at a secondary school in essex this morning. dan, how are preparations going there? yes, good morning. this is a school in chelmsford where they are getting to grips with what they are going to have to put in place in less than a fortnight. let me introduce you to kitty and george, some of the pupils, they have been in because they have key worker parents. what do you think, kitty, but what you have heard about the school coming back and filling up in a fortnight? i am looking forward to it, because i am looking forward to it, because i want _ i am looking forward to it, because i want to— i am looking forward to it, because i want to see my friends and i will 'ust i want to see my friends and i will just get— i want to see my friends and i will just get to — i want to see my friends and i will just get to see everyone. what do ou think just get to see everyone. what do you think about _ just get to see everyone. what do you think about having _ just get to see everyone. what do you think about having to - just get to see everyone. what do you think about having to wear. just get to see everyone. what do - you think about having to wear masks in classroom and having to test yourself for the virus? it is going to be quite _ yourself for the virus? it is going to be quite hard, _ yourself for the virus? it is going to be quite hard, because - yourself for the virus? it is going to be quite hard, because if- to be quite hard, because if anything _ to be quite hard, because if anything it is going to be hard to learn _ anything it is going to be hard to learn well— anything it is going to be hard to learn well your face is covered for six hours — learn well your face is covered for six hours a — learn well your face is covered for six hours a day, but the home testing. — six hours a day, but the home testing. i_ six hours a day, but the home testing, i think that is all right. that— testing, i think that is all right. that is— testing, i think that is all right. that is not_ testing, i think that is all right. that is not such a big deal. we are all going _ that is not such a big deal. we are all going to — that is not such a big deal. we are all going to have to test at some point _ all going to have to test at some point so — all going to have to test at some point so we might as welljust do it. point so we might as well 'ust do it. , ., , ., ., , , it. george, you have been tested when ou it. george, you have been tested when you have — it. george, you have been tested when you have come _ it. george, you have been tested when you have come into - it. george, you have been testedj when you have come into school, it. george, you have been tested i when you have come into school, do you think you could do it yourself at home? yes, i think i can. are you looking forward to everybody coming back? i looking forward to everybody coming back? . . looking forward to everybody coming back? ., . ., , ., ., , back? i am excited to see all of my friends again _ back? i am excited to see all of my friends again after— back? i am excited to see all of my friends again after such _ back? i am excited to see all of my friends again after such a _ back? i am excited to see all of my friends again after such a long - friends again after such a long time — friends again after such a long time. �* , , ~ time. let's bring in mr kern, the headmaster- _ time. let's bring in mr kern, the headmaster. do _ time. let's bring in mr kern, the headmaster. do you _ time. let's bring in mr kern, the headmaster. do you think - time. let's bring in mr kern, the headmaster. do you think this i time. let's bring in mr kern, the headmaster. do you think this isj time. let's bring in mr kern, the - headmaster. do you think this is the right time, what about how this has been managed? we right time, what about how this has been managed?— right time, what about how this has been managed? we are thrilled with --rosective been managed? we are thrilled with prospective students _ been managed? we are thrilled with prospective students coming - been managed? we are thrilled with prospective students coming back, l prospective students coming back, george _ prospective students coming back, george says he's looking forward to seeing _ george says he's looking forward to seeing his— george says he's looking forward to seeing his friends, we are looking forward _ seeing his friends, we are looking forward to— seeing his friends, we are looking forward to seeing all the students, we have _ forward to seeing all the students, we have always said that on march 23, that _ we have always said that on march 23, that health and safety permitting we couldn't get the students back here soon enough so we are thrilled _ students back here soon enough so we are thrilled to be at that point, but it— are thrilled to be at that point, but it needs to be managed, in a cautious. — but it needs to be managed, in a cautious, carefulway but it needs to be managed, in a cautious, careful way that continues to safeguard and protect the whole community. to safeguard and protect the whole communi . . to safeguard and protect the whole community-— community. that first round of testina is community. that first round of testing is going _ community. that first round of testing is going to _ community. that first round of testing is going to be - community. that first round of testing is going to be on - community. that first round of testing is going to be on you, | community. that first round of i testing is going to be on you, the school, to offer those. can you do that for everybody? that school, to offer those. can you do that for everybody?— that for everybody? that is a challenging _ that for everybody? that is a challenging and _ that for everybody? that is a challenging and significant i challenging and significant undertaking for any school. we will find a _ undertaking for any school. we will find a way — undertaking for any school. we will find a way of making it work, but i do have _ find a way of making it work, but i do have concerns about the expectations of school leaders and staff that — expectations of school leaders and staff that they are being placed under— staff that they are being placed under at — staff that they are being placed under at a staff that they are being placed underat a time staff that they are being placed under at a time when our efforts need _ under at a time when our efforts need to— under at a time when our efforts need to be — under at a time when our efforts need to be concentrated on supporting the academic progress of students _ supporting the academic progress of students and supporting their mental heatth— students and supporting their mental health and well—being stop does that return— health and well—being stop does that return need to be phased with macro i believe _ return need to be phased with macro i believe it— return need to be phased with macro i believe it does. i believe that the announcement yesterday allows for schools to operate a phased return — for schools to operate a phased return. that is how in these early hours. _ return. that is how in these early hours. we — return. that is how in these early hours, we have been planning following _ hours, we have been planning following the announcement yesterday, to bring students back year group by year group in a phased ntanner— year group by year group in a phased manner that — year group by year group in a phased manner that allows us to manage expectations for testing, which are within— expectations for testing, which are within the — expectations for testing, which are within the first two weeks. for our school— within the first two weeks. for our school it— within the first two weeks. for our school it will amount to 4000 tests. we need _ school it will amount to 4000 tests. we need to— school it will amount to 4000 tests. we need to be able to manage that in a cautious— we need to be able to manage that in a cautious manner. let we need to be able to manage that in a cautious manner.— a cautious manner. let me ask you about facemasks. _ a cautious manner. let me ask you about facemasks. there _ a cautious manner. let me ask you about facemasks. there was - a cautious manner. let me ask you about facemasks. there was a - a cautious manner. let me ask you | about facemasks. there was a slight change yesterday, have you absorbed the detail of that, and do you understand what is now required? brute understand what is now required? we would have anticipated facemasks, so that is— would have anticipated facemasks, so that is not— would have anticipated facemasks, so that is not a _ would have anticipated facemasks, so that is not a great surprise. i cannot— that is not a great surprise. i cannot think of any measure we have not already— cannot think of any measure we have not already introduced other than that so— not already introduced other than that so that is not a hugely significant step although as kitty has said — significant step although as kitty has said about the discomfort, we are familiar— has said about the discomfort, we are familiar with that, but that is are familiar with that, but that is a nunor— are familiar with that, but that is a minor concern, i made a much wider and broader— a minor concern, i made a much wider and broader set of concerns nationally. and broader set of concerns nationally-— and broader set of concerns nationall . �*, ., ,, ., , nationally. let's talk about this issue of bringing _ nationally. let's talk about this issue of bringing everybody - nationally. let's talk about this | issue of bringing everybody back nationally. let's talk about this - issue of bringing everybody back to the right level and getting everybody back on track. i know it is a difficult conversation to have. what do you think the emphasis should be their?— should be their? firstly it is important _ should be their? firstly it is important to _ should be their? firstly it is important to emphasise - should be their? firstly it is| important to emphasise that should be their? firstly it is - important to emphasise that schools have developed fantastic online provision. we are very keen here to guard _ provision. we are very keen here to guard against the notion that this generation of children are somehow going _ generation of children are somehow going to _ generation of children are somehow going to be forever lost and disadvantaged. that's simply not the case _ disadvantaged. that's simply not the case some — disadvantaged. that's simply not the case. some children will need some additional— case. some children will need some additional support. you catch up. but i'm _ additional support. you catch up. but i'm sceptical of the notion that it is possible —— make impossible to reclaim _ it is possible —— make impossible to reclaim that — it is possible —— make impossible to reclaim that time, it doesn't matter how much— reclaim that time, it doesn't matter how much the government invest into schooling _ how much the government invest into schooling although additional funding is welcome, you cannot buy back at— funding is welcome, you cannot buy back at that — funding is welcome, you cannot buy back at that time. i am intent on creating — back at that time. i am intent on creating a — back at that time. i am intent on creating a climate, when students return, _ creating a climate, when students return, that is welcoming, safe and secure _ return, that is welcoming, safe and secure. subjecting students to intensive — secure. subjecting students to intensive tuition and revision programmes after school and at weekends and holidays is not going to be _ weekends and holidays is not going to be conducive to their mental health— to be conducive to their mental health and well—being, and will not be conducive to their academic progress. _ be conducive to their academic progress, but what we need to do trust _ progress, but what we need to do trust the — progress, but what we need to do trust the teacher's expertise and dedication that they will discern where _ dedication that they will discern where there is need and that their commitment will ensure that these young _ commitment will ensure that these young people get to where they need to be _ young people get to where they need to be. . ~ young people get to where they need to be. ., ,, i. young people get to where they need to be. ., ~' ,, , young people get to where they need tobe. ., , . young people get to where they need tobe. .mg , . . to be. thank you very much. we appreciate _ to be. thank you very much. we appreciate your _ to be. thank you very much. we appreciate your time, _ to be. thank you very much. we appreciate your time, some - appreciate your time, some interesting points. there is a lot for teachers and schools to consider, the practicalities of how they bring everybody back, and what education looks like in the days and weeks through the terms to come. dan, thank you very much, interesting hearing from the head teacher about the practicalities. we can speak now to the shadow chancellor, anneliese dodds, joins us now. so, we know now, all schools, all pupils in england can go back from march the 8th. do you back that decision? brute march the 8th. do you back that decision? ~ ., ., , ., ., , decision? we do really want to see chilton back— decision? we do really want to see chilton back in _ decision? we do really want to see chilton back in school— decision? we do really want to see chilton back in school on _ decision? we do really want to see chilton back in school on that - decision? we do really want to see| chilton back in school on that date. we do want to make sure that government has the right logistics in place, of course, so we have been calling on them to be clear about that mass testing regime. as you know, we have been calling for a teaching —— teachers' vaccination programme and we are disappointed this has not taken place. we urge government to accomplish that vaccination of teachers over the half term holidays. that didn't happen. we don't want to see a situation like we saw back in the autumn where, in theory, schools were open, but we saw large numbers of them not able to have classrooms in operation because the teaching staff were not there. but we do support, overall, opening schools again for all children. we have seen the impact of this on children and young people. it has been a very difficult period. brute young people. it has been a very difficult period.— young people. it has been a very difficult period. we know there will be a testing _ difficult period. we know there will be a testing programme _ difficult period. we know there will be a testing programme in - difficult period. we know there will be a testing programme in place, | difficult period. we know there will i be a testing programme in place, we werejust hearing from be a testing programme in place, we were just hearing from the head teacher, they are.— were just hearing from the head teacher, they are. that's right. we need to know _ teacher, they are. that's right. we need to know that _ teacher, they are. that's right. we need to know that will _ teacher, they are. that's right. we need to know that will be - teacher, they are. that's right. we| need to know that will be delivered effectively. we need to know it will be rolled out across the country. again, as i said previously, we believe that, if we have that vaccination already for teachers and teaching staff, that we would be in a stronger position now, so we would urge government to look at that again. i urge government to look at that aaain. . urge government to look at that a.ain_ ., ., urge government to look at that aaain. ., ., i. urge government to look at that aaain. ., ., ., urge government to look at that aaain. ., , again. i have asked you about this before. again. i have asked you about this before- with _ again. i have asked you about this before. with regard _ again. i have asked you about this before. with regard to _ again. i have asked you about this before. with regard to teachers, | before. with regard to teachers, others would have to have their vaccines delayed. who do you choose to have their vaccines delayed? actually we have been speaking to a number of those who are able to deliver that additional capacity, for example, keir starmer de labor leader yesterday referred to the crick institute in his constituency said they can provide substantially increased vaccination. i am hearing the same from many different organisations in my constituency. there is capacity there. we believe that government should look at this again, so that we continue with the existing roll—out to different age groups but we also ensure that we have those really critical key workers, particularly teachers, able to be vaccinated so that we don't have a rerun of that situation in the autumn. brute have a rerun of that situation in the autumn-— have a rerun of that situation in the autumn. ~ ~ ., ., the autumn. we know the government is aroin to the autumn. we know the government is going to have _ the autumn. we know the government is going to have a _ the autumn. we know the government is going to have a review _ the autumn. we know the government is going to have a review into - the autumn. we know the government is going to have a review into what - is going to have a review into what role so cold, we don't know the name of them yet, so called covid—19 certificates, might play, in the opening up of the economy. would you back the idea of certificates? i think this area is incredibly complicated. there is no easy way through this question. it's very important that government conducts that review very openly, that they draw on a wide range of evidence, because i don't think implementing such a system would be simple, but we are ready, clearly, have a situation where a number of employers are really confused. they don't know what the situation will be moving forward, so a review sensible, but please let's make sure that it sensible, but please let's make sure thatitis sensible, but please let's make sure that it is an inclusive review, one that it is an inclusive review, one that draws on all of the evidence available. do that draws on all of the evidence available. , ., that draws on all of the evidence available. ,, , that draws on all of the evidence available. , ., , ., that draws on all of the evidence available. i. , ., ,., available. do you believe that some emlo ers available. do you believe that some employers should _ available. do you believe that some employers should be _ available. do you believe that some employers should be told _ available. do you believe that some employers should be told that - available. do you believe that some employers should be told that their| employers should be told that their employees would be able, they would be employees would be able, they would he tell them they couldn't work unless they have one of these certificates or not? i unless they have one of these certificates or not?— unless they have one of these certificates or not? i don't think this is an area _ certificates or not? i don't think this is an area where _ certificates or not? i don't think this is an area where a - certificates or not? i don't think| this is an area where a politician should be pontificating. this needs to be driven by evidence. there needs to be a proper review of this, one that is properly inclusive, because there could be negative consequences in a variety of different directions, unless this is got right. different directions, unless this is not rirht. ., ., different directions, unless this is raotriht. ., ., ,, ., ., different directions, unless this is iot riiht. ., ., ,, ., ., ., . ., got right. you are shadow chancellor sto we got right. you are shadow chancellor stop we expect _ got right. you are shadow chancellor stop we expect the _ got right. you are shadow chancellor stop we expect the budget _ got right. you are shadow chancellor stop we expect the budget on - got right. you are shadow chancellor stop we expect the budget on march| stop we expect the budget on march third, isn't it? and the prime minister has said he will not pull the rug out from under businesses that they have been supporting. you would support that? i that they have been supporting. you would support that?— would support that? i would support that, but! would support that? i would support that, but i have _ would support that? i would support that, but i have to _ would support that? i would support that, but i have to say, _ would support that? i would support that, but i have to say, not - would support that? i would support that, but i have to say, notjust - that, but i have to say, notjust myself, i know of many businesses that have contacted me already, frustrated about the situation. it is the fourth time when we have had an announcement around restrictions, but without clarity around business support, particularly for those involved in indoor hospitality, restaurants, cafes, pubs, they actually face a situation where they know that they will not be able to urban, for some time after the furlough scheme is set to end and the business rates holiday is set to end. that is causing enormous anxiety, and actually, we have already seen record redundancies in the uk. we saw them previously when the uk. we saw them previously when the chancellor was deciding what he wanted to do with the furlough scheme, and i'm concerned that we will see yet more redundancies coming through. that is confirmed by this morning's statistics. because the government cannot make its mind up, it needs to have a longer term plan around the support rather than always acting at the last minute. anneliese dodds, shadow chancellor, thank you for your time. that project is expected on march the 3rd. we will speak to the health secretary matt hancock in a few minutes. also on the programme... we will meet the dj doctor who started screaming, as a way to cheer himself up screaming, as a way to cheer himself up after his shifts in an nhs hospital. i'm now for the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning. i'm asad ahmad. the metropolitan police is to review the death of an m16 officer whose naked body was found inside a bag at his pimlico flat. gareth williams was found dead in 2010 with a coroner later concluding mr williams was unlawfully killed. the police have said new information has now come to light. london ambulance staff will begin wearing body cameras from today, to protect them from violent assaults and threats. the new kit will be worn as part of a trial by staff considered to be most at risk of attack. latest figures show there were more than 500 assaults on ambulance staff since april. a vicarfrom belvedere is using his online gaming skills to get the church to reach out to new people. reverend simon archer began what's called 'gaming for god' during lockdown to bring people together and create a forum to chat and engage with the church. he's affectionately known as "the vicar of facebook gaming". it's a very social activity, and i think it's been a real saviour for people as well, i think it's really helped people to find each other. i think there really is a connection between gaming and church. and that is something to do with the way people come together. london fashion week ends today. it's been the first fully online event and the first gender—neutral one in its history. this was one of the shows to be streamed. it's by bora aksu. although in other shows drag queens featured on the catwalk for the first time. let's take a look at the travel situation now. severe delays on the hammersmith and city line due to train cancellations. jubilee is part—suspended due to a signalfailure. on the buses an ongoing strike mean 60 routes across london are affected. check for the list of routes on twitter @bbctravelalert. and on the roads finchley road is down to one lane at hendon way for water works. now the weather with sara. good morning to you. there's a lot of talk of springlike warmth across london and the south—east this week but it is a chilly start this morning. we've got some patchy ground frost out toward the suburbs and a little bit of mist and fog around first thing but the winds are picking up from the south through this morning, gusting 35 mph through this afternoon. but then a boost in our temperatures with some sunshine, hazy at times, we are up into the mid—teens, above average for the time of year. and overnight, the wind still a key feature of the weather, perhaps a little bit of cloud coming and going at times. but the temperatures will really hold up overnight with the wind slowly easing, but we will stay in double figures into tomorrow and then it could be even a bit warmer still for tomorrow. again, good spells of sunshine, staying dry. we could see 16 or 17 celsius. looks like that's going to be the peak of the warm weather through this week. but right the way through this weekend, we stay dry, sunny and above average with those temperatures. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in an hour. hello, this is breakfast with louise minchin and charlie stayt. the 21stjune — that is the date when we might see our lives return to some kind normality, should the government's road out of england's lockdown go to plan. let's get more on what we can expect over the next four months. the health secretary, matt hancock, joins us now. thank matt hancock, joins us now. you very much for you this thank you very much for your time this morning. there was a great deal to go through yesterday and people will have done their own business picking through the bits that might apply to them. before we get to the detail, let's talk about the principles. you have said all along that the changes, as and when they come, will be data driven. yes. so if we ick come, will be data driven. yes. so if we pick a — come, will be data driven. yes. so if we pick a date _ come, will be data driven. yes. so if we pick a date of _ come, will be data driven. i'ez2 so if we pick a date of april come, will be data driven. iez2 so if we pick a date of april the 12th, for example, that means that a nonessential retail will be open, indoor leisure, pubs and doors, this would be a significant day on the timeline. do you know now what the figures would need to be in order that that could happen?- figures would need to be in order that that could happen? thanks very much for having _ that that could happen? thanks very much for having me _ that that could happen? thanks very much for having me on. _ that that could happen? thanks very much for having me on. this - that that could happen? thanks very much for having me on. this is - that that could happen? thanks very much for having me on. this is a - much for having me on. this is a critical question. the prime minister has set four tests that we are looking at. but we're not going to put figures against tests as in advance thing because there are four of them and you could end up hitting some and not others. what matters is that this is on all of us. it depends on how all of us respond. because right now, we need to keep doing what we're doing and staying at home, to make sure we can keep the rates coming down as we roll the vaccine programme out. and this is only possible because of the vaccine roll—out which has been amazing. but it's also vital that everybody plays their part as they have been doing during lockdown. so the answer is, no, we don't have numerical thresholds, but what does matter is that this is notjust on us in government, although we will play our part. it is on everyone to act together to keep doing their bit to make sure that we can hit these dates and get out of this as soon as you possibly can safely. hold dates and get out of this as soon as you possibly can safely.— you possibly can safely. hold that thouht you possibly can safely. hold that thought for— you possibly can safely. hold that thought for a _ you possibly can safely. hold that thought for a moment _ you possibly can safely. hold that thought for a moment so - you possibly can safely. hold that thought for a moment so that - you possibly can safely. hold that - thought for a moment so that people understand. if we use april 12 as an example, you put down the mark of the date. when will we know then whatever the calculation is, do you say the week before, the day before, how does it work? brute say the week before, the day before, how does it work?— how does it work? we will say it one week before- — how does it work? we will say it one week before. the _ how does it work? we will say it one week before. the reason _ how does it work? we will say it one week before. the reason we - how does it work? we will say it one week before. the reason we have i how does it work? we will say it one i week before. the reason we have done it this way is because that gives everybody for weeks to see the impact of the first step. —— four weeks. so the 12th of april is five weeks. so the 12th of april is five weeks after the schools go back on the 8th of march, so we have four weeks to see the impact on that in terms of the impact on the disease and then we will make the announcement one week before the go—ahead to date. i know that means there will be continued uncertainty up there will be continued uncertainty up until that date, but we have got to make sure that we stay on track for this to happen safely and irreversibly. and what matters is that at the moment, hospitalisations and the deaths are coming down, and the number of deaths is coming down really sharply, and you can see the impact of the vaccine saving lives now because fewer and fewer people are dying from this, notjust because of lockdown but also the deaths are falling faster than the hospitalisations, which shows that the vaccine is saving lives. and we will make the decision and announced the decision one week in advance of each of the steps on the road map. there are uncomfortable truths that the prime minister made reference to and you alluded to it a second ago, which are linked to the risk, chris whitty talked about this, he said, we are taking a risk as soon as we take these measures. we cannot escape this and we will get onto the practical in the moment, but there is a figure that has been used by sage are suggesting that there could be up to 30,000 more deaths as we go to this next period. what do you say about that? brute to this next period. what do you say about that?— about that? we want that figure to be as small _ about that? we want that figure to be as small as _ about that? we want that figure to be as small as it _ about that? we want that figure to be as small as it possibly - about that? we want that figure to be as small as it possibly can - about that? we want that figure to be as small as it possibly can be. l be as small as it possibly can be. in the vaccine roll—out —— and the vaccine roll—out is our strongest weapon in that battle. i thought the prime minister showed real leadership yesterday because he did explain some of the challenging things about this virus. the fact that eradicating it completely is not going to be possible, so we are going to have to live with it as a society, but thankfully, because of the vaccine, and because of the treatments that are increasingly coming through, we are going to be able to wrestle it to being something more like flu that we live with. nobody likes the fact that flu comes but we live with it and vaccinate against it and support people who catch it. so we are going to have to learn to live with this but thankfully, with the weapons of science and the amazing work of the scientists and the nhs, we are going to be far, far better place, we are already far better placed for managing it and keeping people safe. we will come back to some of the long—term implications in a moment. let's look at the immediate first, 29th march, according to the guidelines, there will be no longer a legal requirement to stay at home. a few people getting in touch saying, is that what you call nonessential travel? the question is, when can you do nonessential travel? so, one scenario, you see that and say, that means i can go and see my family, the rule of six outdoors applies, i can do a day trip to see people outdoors, is that what that means?— trip to see people outdoors, is that what that means? yes, so on the 29th of march, what that means? yes, so on the 29th of march. there _ what that means? yes, so on the 29th of march, there will _ what that means? yes, so on the 29th of march, there will still _ what that means? yes, so on the 29th of march, there will still be _ what that means? yes, so on the 29th of march, there will still be a - of march, there will still be a guidance to stay local, and by law, you will not be able to stay overnight elsewhere or go on holiday domestically, for instance, unfortunately. but we are able to make that first step so that we can have the rule of six, or two households, outdoors. whereas previously we have just had the rule of six, now we are proposing the rule of six or two households so that large households for instance, or two families with two kids, can see each other. but outdoors because we know that that is safer than indoors. that hopefully she'll go well. we will then get to the position —— that hopefully should all go well. we will then get to the position that we can then stay overnight, i am looking forward to that myself, hopefully that will be by the middle of may. but i come back to my first point, this is on all of this. we all need to pay our part as we have been doing over this pandemic in keeping this under control. all of us cautious. and that way we will be able to hit these dates in the road map. brute that way we will be able to hit these dates in the road map. we live in extraordinary _ these dates in the road map. we live in extraordinary times _ these dates in the road map. we live in extraordinary times and _ these dates in the road map. we live in extraordinary times and in - these dates in the road map. we live in extraordinary times and in some i in extraordinary times and in some of the detail, and this goes to the heart of people's welfare to a wider degree, there are specific dates attached to when you will be able to hug. looking to the detail, the suggestion is that hugging should be as soon as possible, no later than may the 17th. is that right?- may the 17th. is that right? that's riht, and may the 17th. is that right? that's right. and at _ may the 17th. is that right? that's right, and at the _ may the 17th. is that right? that's right, and at the same _ may the 17th. is that right? that's right, and at the same date - may the 17th. is that right? that's right, and at the same date at - may the 17th. is that right? that's i right, and at the same date at which you will be able to travel and stay overnight. that is in step three, which is five weeks after step two and the changes we were talking about a moment ago. we know that close contact is how the disease is passed on. so the reason for that timing is by then, all of the most vulnerable groups will have been able to have two jabs, and we know from the data that was published yesterday that the first jab is very effective in helping to protect you against catching covid or hospitalisation or, of course, dying from it. but the second jab adds to the protection, adds further. but we do want to be cautious until the most vulnerable groups have been able to have both of those doses. let's move ahead a little further. we were talking about long term and how we are going to have to learn to live with this. a lot of people asking the question, and it appeared to be not in great detail yesterday, about social distancing. where does about social distancing. where does a social distancing it within the timetable, what are the specifics —— where the social distancing fit within the timetable and what of the specifics? it within the timetable and what of the secifics? . , within the timetable and what of the secifics? ., , , ., ., specifics? it early -- it is too early to _ specifics? it early -- it is too early to say- _ specifics? it early -- it is too early to say. we _ specifics? it early -- it is too early to say. we want - specifics? it early -- it is too early to say. we want this i specifics? it early -- it is too early to say. we want this to | specifics? it early -- it is too i early to say. we want this to be personal responsibility and social norms. we want a world where people will choose to wear a mask on public transport, for example, for it to be normal. but not for it to be legislated on or required in law. we are too soon to be able to say now when for example the two metres or one metre plus rule can be relaxed. therefore we will have a review into that, and watch the evidence on that, and watch the evidence on that, very carefully. so we have set out the detail that we can have confidence in, driven, as you said at the start, by the data, and what i mean by that is the actions everybody takes and the consequences of those actions. we have set out to the indicative dates wherever we can because i know how much people want to see where we are heading. and they want to have a sense of that so that people can start to plan their lives again. but there are large part of this that we still do not yet know. people have got used to the fact that there are things that we do not yet know. one is about social distancing, another is about international travel. because that is particularly challenging because of the risk of new variants that the vaccine might not have the same effect against as they do about the domestic variants. so we have been clear about what we don't know as well as clear about where we can set out the guide rails that we have. it is interesting you mentioned international travel, you are probably aware that the airlines are already reporting a huge number of bookings taking place. there is to be a review of the rights to international travel in april, to report then in may, as i understand it. what is your advice to people saying, that sounds like we can go away in may? irate saying, that sounds like we can go away in may?— saying, that sounds like we can go awa inma? ., , , away in may? we have been absolutely clear that this — away in may? we have been absolutely clear that this is _ away in may? we have been absolutely clear that this is an _ away in may? we have been absolutely clear that this is an area _ away in may? we have been absolutely clear that this is an area that _ away in may? we have been absolutely clear that this is an area that we - clear that this is an area that we need to do further work on. we have put in the dates that we would like to see this opened up, but they are not before dates, so we are saying it will not happen before then. but we have got this review into international travel which is important in the main reason it is important in the main reason it is important as this. thanks to the stronger border measures we have brought in and the local action that people have taken, the number of these new variants that might not be as dealt with by the vaccine as effectively as the covid that's circulating in the large part here in the uk, for those variants, we need to see the vaccine impact on them. if that impact is perfectly good, if it stops the majority of hospitalisations and deaths as the vaccine does against the variant thatis vaccine does against the variant that is here, then, great. but if there is a variant that can get around the vaccine, then obviously, that would set us back. and we would need to be cautious against that. so thatis need to be cautious against that. so that is why we have set out a review in that area because we just don't know the science in that space yet. we are working on it very hard, including with our colleagues in the south african government and the team at porton down who are absolutely brilliant on this and other scientists. absolutely brilliant on this and otherscientists. but absolutely brilliant on this and other scientists. but that is one of the unknown is as yet.— other scientists. but that is one of the unknown is as yet. keen to get ou a the unknown is as yet. keen to get you a couple _ the unknown is as yet. keen to get you a couple more _ the unknown is as yet. keen to get you a couple more things. - the unknown is as yet. keen to get you a couple more things. vaccine| you a couple more things. vaccine certificates are being talked about in a different way by government. i know this is also subject to review so we don't have to talk about that but personally, do you see a role for vaccine certificate as we look ahead to may sporting events, pop concerts which will kick in later in the summer?— the summer? there is clearly an important _ the summer? there is clearly an important role — the summer? there is clearly an important role for _ the summer? there is clearly an important role for certification i the summer? there is clearly anj important role for certification in international travel and we are working with colleagues around the world on that. the question on how much more broadly we can use that certification is one we have put into review because there are so many considerations. it's notjust about vaccine, it's also about testing. we already say you have got to have a test to travel, for instance. so this certification is an important matter to consider but there are areas of life he would not want it to extend to. —— you would not want it to extend to and it is time to consider those measures and have a debate and come forward with a conclusive answer.— a conclusive answer. going back to the vaccination _ a conclusive answer. going back to the vaccination programme, - a conclusive answer. going back to the vaccination programme, care l a conclusive answer. going back to - the vaccination programme, care home and nhs staff, it is a political decision as to whether or not they will be required to have vaccinations. what will be that decision? it vaccinations. what will be that decision? . , vaccinations. what will be that decision? ., ., decision? it connects to the previous — decision? it connects to the previous answer, _ decision? it connects to the previous answer, because l decision? it connects to the i previous answer, because this decision? it connects to the - previous answer, because this is an important consideration. there are some care homes which are asking for this, and asking staff to, obviously, i want to starve in the nhs and care homes to be vaccinated. —— | nhs and care homes to be vaccinated. —— i want to start in the nhs and care homes to be vaccinated. chris whitty says he regards it as a professional duty to get vaccinated. whether you go a step further and say you cannot work in those settings without being vaccinated is an important question. so settings without being vaccinated is an important question.— settings without being vaccinated is an important question. so that could be a possibility. _ an important question. so that could be a possibility, you _ an important question. so that could be a possibility, you might— an important question. so that could be a possibility, you might do - an important question. so that could be a possibility, you might do that? l be a possibility, you might do that? we are not at that point yet and i think it is important that we take all points of view into consideration.- all points of view into consideration. , , ., consideration. these things do run in parallel. — consideration. these things do run in parallel. we _ consideration. these things do run in parallel, we need _ consideration. these things do run in parallel, we need to _ consideration. these things do run in parallel, we need to ask - consideration. these things do run in parallel, we need to ask you - in parallel, we need to ask you about the financial situation. i know the chancellor will be speaking next week. there is huge pressure for people who now know the timetable, they say, we have had a hard time and it will not stop for a little while and they are demanding more help. will there be more help available? . , more help. will there be more help available? ., , ., ., ., available? that is a matter for the bud u et available? that is a matter for the budget next _ available? that is a matter for the budget next week. _ available? that is a matter for the budget next week. but _ available? that is a matter for the budget next week. but what - available? that is a matter for the budget next week. but what i - available? that is a matter for the budget next week. but what i can | available? that is a matter for the i budget next week. but what i can say to you is throughout this pandemic, we have provided unprecedented levels of economic support. almost the highest in the world, and also unprecedented in history. and on the details of that, you will have to wait for the chancellor next week. let's leave that one, i appreciate you will not pick up on that. i can't do that. just _ you will not pick up on that. i can't do that. just want i you will not pick up on that. i can't do that. just want to i you will not pick up on that. i l can't do that. just want to pick you will not pick up on that. i i can't do that. just want to pick up on a story — can't do that. just want to pick up on a story that — can't do that. just want to pick up on a story that has _ can't do that. just want to pick up on a story that has been - can't do that. just want to pick up on a story that has been knocking around a little while now, the supply of ppe. on friday, a judge rules that you breached a legal obligation to publish the details of ppe contracts. your reaction to that? it's an emotive subject, it's an emotive subject apart from everything else but also a question of whether things were done correctly. do you accept that things were not done correctly? irate were not done correctly? we absolutely — were not done correctly? - absolutely accept that some of the paperwork was filed on average around a fortnight late, and i absolutely accept that the correct judgment, which was the judgment that my team and i made, was to save lives and to get hold of this life saving equipment, this ppe. i think we talked about it on this programme backin we talked about it on this programme back in april and may, just how difficult the situation was. and how tight the amount of ppe was. and there were challenges in some areas. we didn't run out nationally, and we didn't run out because my team did such an amazing job. and i thought that they made the right call to delay filing some of the paperwork when the choice was either buying the life—saving equipment or filing the life—saving equipment or filing the paperwork. which choice would you have made? {line the paperwork. which choice would you have made?— the paperwork. which choice would ou have made? ., , ., ., you have made? one last thought, and i will ask you — you have made? one last thought, and i will ask you to — you have made? one last thought, and i will ask you to be _ you have made? one last thought, and i will ask you to be brief. _ you have made? one last thought, and i will ask you to be brief. some - i will ask you to be brief. some people say you should be moving quicker. is it an absolute, and i know you say things could extend further, it is an absolute that things will not happen quicker? there is a reason for that and the reason we have structured this with not before updates, so we have these five weeks in between, for weeks to look at the impact and one week to make the decision and give people time to prepare. so we can be careful and cautious and see the data and see the impact of the steps we're taking to make sure we can do this safely as the prime says, irreversibly.— this safely as the prime says, irreversibly. thank you for your time this morning. _ irreversibly. thank you for your time this morning. thank- irreversibly. thank you for your time this morning. thank you | irreversibly. thank you for your i time this morning. thank you very much. here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. i guess that is a sunrise, but it looks lovely. it is, it is one of our weather watcher pictures from bolton, we have seen a lot of beautiful sunrises in many parts of the uk but not all of them because we have some rain, piling into the north—west which will be accompanied by strong winds, it will be mailed everywhere. the rain is in northern ireland, north—west wales, west england and there will be some snow in some areas of scotland. but there is a met office and the weather warning for parts of scotland for heavy rain. —— amber weather warning. for parts of scotland for heavy rain. —— amberweatherwarning. the rain. —— amberweatherwarning. the rain is falling on saturated ground so there is the risk of flooding and disruption. the rain will carry on through the day. the rain will be breaking up, we will see some sunshine, the rain is thick enough for some drizzle in the south—west, and some patchy rain although that is heavier in north—west part of wales. the black circles represent the gusts of wind, so it will be a windy day. these are the temperatures. nine to 14 degrees, still mild and above—average of the time of year. through the evening and overnight, carry on with the rain, the weather front has more energy pumped through it so it is not moving particularly quickly. more across northern england and wales through the night. i want to draw your attention to the temperatures, they would be above average for daytime that they are certainly above average for night time. this another mild night in prospect, temperatures falling between eight and 12. this is the weather front bringing this rain. tomorrow it will be quite windy but not as windy as today. this weather front is the demarcation line between the very mild air and the mild air. so here is the rain for tomorrow but still mild. this week racing driver billy monger is taking on his biggest challenge yet. he's walking, cycling and kayaking 140 miles in four days all in aid of comic relief. he kicked off the challenge on breakfast yesterday, and walked a total of 18 miles being joined by the comedian chris ramsey for some of the way. let's take a look. cheering. horn honks. cheering. he said he was quite worried about the day. he said he was most worried about the walk. and billy's sent us this update, ahead of day two of his epic challenge. morning, guys. it is now day two. yesterday we did the walk, covered the mileage we wanted to cover, everything went, in the grand scheme of things, pretty well. i made it to the end, that was the main thing i was worried about doing and we did that. legs are really sore and tired this morning. i tried to get some physio in last night but, yeah, they're going to need another day to recover. thankfully, today is the kayak day so we'll be in the kayak all day long, covering the miles that we are looking to achieve. the conditions, judging off what everyone in the crew and team around me was describing last night, it looks like it's going to be tricky out there. it looks like it's going to be wet, windy and cold. hopefully i don't fall in. i just want to say a big thank you to all the bbc breakfast viewers, all your support so far, your donations, have been amazing. and let's keep it up for the next few days, thanks. he looks tired already, doesn't he? i know it is early for him! i love the fact that he thinks it is a rest day sitting in his kayak all day long! so much good luck today to billy. you can follow billy's efforts at bbc.co.uk/rednoseday, or by following him on social media at @billymonger. and here's how you can donate. we will update you throughout the week with billy 's progress as well. nhs doctor kishan bodalia found working through the first coronavirus wave so tough that he began streaming dj sessions from his kitchen to cheer himself up. what started out as a laugh with his friends soon started attracting thousands of followers online. we canjoin him there. we can join him there. thank you for we can 'oin him there. thank you for havin we can join him there. thank you for having me! — we can join him there. thank you for having me! you _ we can join him there. thank you for having me! you look— we can join him there. thank you for having me! you look great _ we can join him there. thank you for having me! you look great there, i having me! you look great there, it's not the _ having me! you look great there, it's not the normal— having me! you look great there, it's not the normal place - having me! you look great there, it's not the normal place you i having me! you look great there, i it's not the normal place you would see a set of dj decks, in the kitchen, but how did this start? at kitchen, but how did this start? git the very start of the pandemic all the very start of the pandemic all the way last year, i noticed how morale was incredibly low across the board. from my front line colleagues but also my friends and family and everyone else who were stuck at home in lockdown. and for me, music is always my release, whether i'm happy or sad. so i thought, what i will do is, do a dj set in my scraps in my kitchen, dance around, and call it an h sessions. —— nh sessions. it just goes to show that music and social media can be so powerful. the social media can be so powerful. are ou auoin social media can be so powerful. are you going to work today? of - social media can be so powerful. are you going to work today? of course, | you going to work today? of course, i'm -la in you going to work today? of course, i'm playing some — you going to work today? of course, i'm playing some tunes _ you going to work today? of course, i'm playing some tunes first - you going to work today? of course, i'm playing some tunes first and i i'm playing some tunes first and then i will go to work. fine i'm 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brilliant! you did it because you wanted to feel better but loads of people have engaged with you and have loved this, what has the reaction been like? it with you and have loved this, what has the reaction been like?- has the reaction been like? it has been absolutely _ has the reaction been like? it has been absolutely overwhelming, i | has the reaction been like? it ia.2 been absolutely overwhelming, i only thought i would reach a few people close to me but now we are reaching millions around the world, incredible influences, radio one djs, example, absolutely amazing, and i want to get this in front of lots of people on instagram and social media.— lots of people on instagram and social media. when we get out of lockdown. _ social media. when we get out of lockdown, what _ social media. when we get out of lockdown, what is _ social media. when we get out of lockdown, what is your _ social media. when we get out of lockdown, what is your plan, i social media. when we get out of lockdown, what is your plan, are | social media. when we get out of. lockdown, what is your plan, are you going to be a doctor or a dj or both? 2 . ., , going to be a doctor or a dj or both? ., both? actually, nh sessions is more than 'ust both? actually, nh sessions is more than just music. _ both? actually, nh sessions is more thanjust music. i— both? actually, nh sessions is more than just music. i think _ both? actually, nh sessions is more than just music. i think music- both? actually, nh sessions is more than just music. i think music and i thanjust music. i think music and health of the most important thing to me. and what nh sessions stands for is great music music, great vibes and physical and mental health. so i am going to keep pushing good music out anything i am most excited about, after the pandemic, is i have got a lot of new music to come out in the future. i am talking to some really exciting labels at the moment. it is am talking to some really exciting labels at the moment.— am talking to some really exciting labels at the moment. it is all good fun. in labels at the moment. it is all good fun- in the — labels at the moment. it is all good fun. in the old _ labels at the moment. it is all good fun. in the old days _ labels at the moment. it is all good fun. in the old days when _ labels at the moment. it is all good fun. in the old days when he i labels at the moment. it is all good fun. in the old days when he used l labels at the moment. it is all good | fun. in the old days when he used to have a dj and record, used to have the scratching, you don't have to do that any more. it has all got a lot more sophisticated. it that any more. it has all got a lot more sophisticated.— more sophisticated. it incredible that everything _ more sophisticated. it incredible that everything can _ more sophisticated. it incredible that everything can be _ more sophisticated. it incredible that everything can be done i more sophisticated. it incredible that everything can be done on i more sophisticated. it incredible| that everything can be done on a more sophisticated. it incredible i that everything can be done on a set of decks. the speakers can be plugged into my phone, i compress live, and then it is like a festival environment because thousands of people are watching. and you can still scratch on these! i people are watching. and you can still scratch on these!— still scratch on these! i don't like to enquire _ still scratch on these! i don't like to enquire too — still scratch on these! i don't like to enquire too much _ still scratch on these! i don't like to enquire too much but - still scratch on these! i don't like to enquire too much but who i still scratch on these! i don't like| to enquire too much but who else still scratch on these! i don't like i to enquire too much but who else is in the house? do you annoy people and they say, lovely, but give it a rest? w' , ., and they say, lovely, but give it a rest? , ., , ., ., rest? luckily i live on my own in an apartment- — rest? luckily i live on my own in an apartment- but _ rest? luckily i live on my own in an apartment. but i _ rest? luckily i live on my own in an apartment. but i should _ rest? luckily i live on my own in an apartment. but i should be - rest? luckily i live on my own in an apartment. but i should be a i rest? luckily i live on my own in an apartment. but i should be a bit. apartment. but i should be a bit careful with the sound so i do keep the volume down. i play it loud in my headphones so i can still dance along and feel the loud music. it has been lovely catching up. thank you so much for everything you are doing in your dayjob, because it has been a remarkable and very challenging time. good to see you smiling. challenging time. good to see you smilin. . g challenging time. good to see you smilin. ., ,, i. challenging time. good to see you smiling-_ loud - challenging time. good to see you smiling._ loud music, | smiling. thank you. loud music, whatever it _ smiling. thank you. loud music, whatever it is _ smiling. thank you. loud music, whatever it is that _ smiling. thank you. loud music, whatever it is that you _ smiling. thank you. loud music, whatever it is that you like, i smiling. thank you. loud music, whatever it is that you like, it i smiling. thank you. loud music, | whatever it is that you like, it can really cheer you up. stay with us, headlines coming up shortly. good morning and welcome to breakfast with louise minchin and charlie stayt. our headlines today at 8: borisjohnson promises a "one way road to freedom" as he sets out his plan to relax england's lockdown restrictions. there is light ahead, leading us to a spring and summer which i think will be seasons of hope, looking and feeling incomparably better for us all and from which we will not go back. meetings inside could be allowed from mid may — withjune 21st the earliest possible date when all restrictions can be lifted. in seven weeks you will be able to get your hair done and sit outside a pub, but it will be months before you can use hospitality venues like this one, and they say it is going to costjobs. this one, and they say it is going to costjobs— to cost jobs. the great british hohda to cost jobs. the great british holiday looks _ to cost jobs. the great british holiday looks like _ to cost jobs. the great british holiday looks like it _ to cost jobs. the great british holiday looks like it might i to cost jobs. the great british holiday looks like it might be | to cost jobs. the great british i holiday looks like it might be back on the _ holiday looks like it might be back on the books, and airlines are also reporting _ on the books, and airlines are also reporting that their phones are ringing — reporting that their phones are ringing off the hook. outdoor sports can re—start from the end of next month. gyms can re—open in mid—april. and up to 10,000 fans could be back in sports stadiums by the 17th of may, in time for the euros. our best ever view of a landing on another world — stunning new footage of the moment nasa's perseverance rover arrived on mars. good morning. for everyone today it is going to be mild, and windy with gusty winds at that. some heavy rain across the north and west of the uk, with brighter skies, the further south and east that you travel. all the details coming later in the programme. it's tuesday the 23rd february. our top story. borisjohnson has revealed his plan to end lockdown in england, which could see covid restrictions fully eased by the 21st ofjune — if strict conditions are met. let's ta ke let's take you through the details. it all starts in two weeks. on the 8th of march, all children in england will go back to school, residents in care homes will be allowed one regular visitor — and two people will be able to socialise outdoors. from the 29th of march, up to six people or two households will be able to meet outdoors, including in private gardens, and some outdoor sport will be allowed. from april 12th at the earliest, shops, gyms and hairdressers could reopen their doors, as well as outdoor hospitality venues, such as pub gardens. and then — no earlier than may 17th — cafes, pubs and restaurants will be able to open fully, restrictions on all outdoor meetings and for events with groups of up to 30 people will be lifted. finally, if everything is given the green light, on the 21stjune, all remaining restrictions will end. our chief political correspondent adam fleming joins us now. there was a great deal of detail. everyone will have a look for the bits that are most important in their lives, but there remain parts of the equation about which there is not clarity. of the equation about which there is not clari . , ., . ., �* not clarity. yes, charlie. we don't know for definite _ not clarity. yes, charlie. we don't know for definite that _ not clarity. yes, charlie. we don't know for definite that all - not clarity. yes, charlie. we don't know for definite that all these i know for definite that all these things will happen on all of these dates that we have pencilled in because the government and the document makes it clear these things will happen not pay for those dates and it will be dependent on the data, the number of cases and the number of people in hospital with covid, so it is not set in stone even though this morning reading it in the newspapers it feels a bit like that. there are four areas where the government is doing more work to come up with a fully formed position. that is, what about travel? british people going abroad and people coming into the uk on holiday, what about certificates to show that you have been vaccinated or had a negative test, what about social distancing, the use of masks and screens and the one metre plus rule in venues, and what about, i have forgotten what the fourth one is. it is mass events, how do you make sure people can go back to for example stadiums to watch football or to go to gigs. something the government has promised, it will have updated guidance on physical contact by the time of step three, the middle of may. and here is why according to health secretary matt hancock. irate according to health secretary matt hancock. ~ ~ ., ., according to health secretary matt hancock. ~ ., ., according to health secretary matt hancock. ~ ~ ., ., . hancock. we know that close contact is how this disease _ hancock. we know that close contact is how this disease is _ hancock. we know that close contact is how this disease is passed - hancock. we know that close contact is how this disease is passed on, i is how this disease is passed on, and so, — is how this disease is passed on, and so, the _ is how this disease is passed on, and so, the reason for that timing is, by— and so, the reason for that timing is, by then, — and so, the reason for that timing is, by then, all of the most vulnerable groups will have been able to _ vulnerable groups will have been able to have two jabs, and we know from _ able to have two jabs, and we know from the _ able to have two jabs, and we know from the data published yesterday that the _ from the data published yesterday that the first jab is very effective in helping — that the first jab is very effective in helping to protect you against catching — in helping to protect you against catching covid or hospitalisation or dying _ catching covid or hospitalisation or dying from — catching covid or hospitalisation or dying from it, but the second jab adds— dying from it, but the second jab adds to — dying from it, but the second jab adds to that protection further, and so, we _ adds to that protection further, and so, we do _ adds to that protection further, and so, we do want to be cautious until the most _ so, we do want to be cautious until the most vulnerable groups have been able to _ the most vulnerable groups have been able to have both of those doses. as you can able to have both of those doses. you can see able to have both of those doses. gi2 you can see even i'm struggling to remember the details, the document is 67 pages long, that is my excuse. there is a big tension developing, on the one hand you have lots of newspapers and increasing numbers of conservative mps including only cautious ones, saying, couldn't we go a bit a bit faster if the data is better, versus the fact the government says we have got to be super cautious and look at the data and some of this might end up not happening, and this will be happening, and this will be happening against the backdrop of cases increasing, and potentially more people going into hospital with coronavirus, and it will be interesting to see how the public, all of us, react to all of this happening against that backdrop. adam, for the moment, thank you. nicola sturgeon will lay out this afternoon how and when scotland will emerge from lockdown restrictions. our correspondent alexandra mackenzie is in glasgow. iimagine we i imagine we have seen caution will be top of the watch list. absolutely. caution, as we see nicola sturgeon set out her plan later this afternoon to bring scotland out of lockdown, or to at least start bringing scotland out of lockdown. we are more likely to see a list of priorities, rather than actual dates, and this is likely to be reviewed every three weeks. now, we have seen a reduction in the number of cases of coronavirus and also a reduction in the number of people being admitted to hospital. but there is a fair, as we begin to ease restrictions, that these numbers could start going up again —— there is a fear. nicola sturgeon's priority has always been schools, we have seen some children returning, younger children up to the age of eight went back yesterday and also some older children as part of a phased return. we are not likely to see all pupils back for some time. indeed, we are not likely to see any more pupils back until at least the middle of march. one of the other priorities has been people in care homes. the government has already announced that, from march, there will be two designated visitors indoors for people in care homes, and they can visit those homes, and they can visit those homes, at least once a week. the priority has been for people to start getting contact with other people, but also, businesses, hospitality, retail, they are very keen to find out when they can start planning to reopen, but we are not likely to see anything like that happening immediately. there may be some kind of indication, but as i have said not likely to be dates. it is likely to be very cautious. opposition parties in scotland have agreed that the approach should be a cautious one. agreed that the approach should be a cautious one-— britain's unemployment rate rose to 5.1% in the last three months of 2020, offical data from the office of national statistics has shown. for october to december last year an estimated 1.74 million people were unemployed, up 454,000 on the same period the previous year. nasa has released stunning new pictures captured by the perseverance rover after its dramatic touchdown on mars. the footage shows the final minutes of last week's tense descent to the red planet, as our global science correspondent rebecca morelle reports. the parachute has deployed... from the release of a supersonic parachute, to the shedding of a heat shield... first look at the surface. an out of this world view — mars, as never seen before. as the rover nears the surface, the dust is kicked up. then a change of camera, as perseverance is lowered on ropes, before touchdown. touchdown confirmed! perseverance safely on the surface of mars! and the landing system is jettisoned away. we can't test it on the earth. so this is the first time we've had a chance, as engineers, to actually see what we designed. and ijust can't, it's hard for me to express how emotional it was and how exciting it was. there are new still images, too. a selfie of the rover. and a vista of the alien world it now sits in. providing a glimpse of the terrain it is about to explore. we now have radar lock on the ground. this footage is already providing crucial information to scientists, and they will continue to study it as perseverance gets to work. it's just a taste of what's to come. rebecca morelle, bbc news. we will get a lot more pictures from that rover over the next few weeks i would expect. the that rover over the next few weeks i would expect-_ that rover over the next few weeks i would expect. the scientist we spoke to earlier said — would expect. the scientist we spoke to earlier said that _ would expect. the scientist we spoke to earlier said that they _ would expect. the scientist we spoke to earlier said that they had - would expect. the scientist we spoke to earlier said that they had a - to earlier said that they had a happy hour, to celebrate the moment! here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. quite a bit of wind and rain around. yes, good morning. it is mild as well as windy. but there is some heavy rain in the north—west. you can see all of this rain coming in across northern ireland, scotland, northern england, some of it fringing into north—west wales, with quite a bit of cloud across the rest of wales and the south—west, so don't surprised if you see some drizzle before the rain arrives later. the further south and east you are, the drier and brighter it will be, but with the rain around, the met office has issued an amber weather warning from noon today until noon tomorrow, for up to 128 millimetres of rain in some parts. you will certainly notice the wind today, wherever you are. the black circles represent the strength of wind gusts, so with exposure in the west, that is where the highest gusts will be at it is going to be a gusty day anyway. temperatures between 9—14 celsius. overnight, this weather plant producing the rain will still be with us, if anything moving across more of northern england and wales. the wind will still be a feature was not perhaps not as windy as during the day but look at these temperatures, this is a mild night for this time of year. these would be above average if we were looking at them during the day. tomorrow, we start with rain across the north and west of the uk. not as potent as today, the wind is not as strong either, and there will be some sunshine. depending on where the cloud breaks and how much sun sign there is, 17 celsius is not outwith the realms of possibility somewhere in the south and east. but again across the board, temperatures above average for this stage in february, charlie and lou. ., ., ., if you live in england, it's going to be a long 48 days until you can have that first drink in a beer garden, or sit outside a coffee shop. and if you want to eat indoors at a restaurant, you'll have to wait until the middle of may. hospitality businesses say they're devastated they won't be able to reopen as soon as other parts of the economy. nina's looking at what support�*s in place for people who work in the sector. she's at a hotel and restaurant in lancashire. nina. good morning. good morning, louise and charlie- — good morning. good morning, louise and charlie. welcome _ good morning. good morning, louise and charlie. welcome to _ good morning. good morning, louise and charlie. welcome to moor i good morning. good morning, louise and charlie. welcome to moor hall. l and charlie. welcome to moor hall. isn't it gorgeous? a luxury hotel and spa with a two michelin star restaurant, here in 0rmskirk, lancashire. they are feeling a little bit fed up today. people in hospitality feel that they have got the short straw in this deal. let's remind ourselves how the next few weeks will unfold for these businesses. then they will have to wait again until the 21st ofjune, at which point you will be able to have big events. weddings will be unlimited in terms of the number of guests, and nightclubs will reopen for the first time in almost 18 months, if of course things go to plan in terms of course things go to plan in terms of the r number being able to be under one. mark is inside the some of the boxes that they have been able to deliver to peoples homes. he says that this environment is safer than a gym or a beautician where you will be in close contact with other people, but hairdressers and many beauticians, put it this way, it was a pretty busy day for them yesterday. a pretty busy day for them yesterday-— a pretty busy day for them esterda . , ., , ., �* yesterday. the phones haven't sto - ed yesterday. the phones haven't stepped ringing. _ yesterday. the phones haven't stopped ringing, facebook- yesterday. the phones haven't - stopped ringing, facebook messages, text messages, all asking, can they come _ text messages, all asking, can they come in _ text messages, all asking, can they come in on — text messages, all asking, can they come in on the 12th of april, but we cannot_ come in on the 12th of april, but we cannot guarantee anybody that. we don't _ cannot guarantee anybody that. we don't even — cannot guarantee anybody that. we don't even know if that is a secure date _ don't even know if that is a secure date yet — don't even know if that is a secure date yet. we book clients in then we -ot date yet. we book clients in then we got to— date yet. we book clients in then we got to spend a lot of time cancelling bookings and then booking them in _ cancelling bookings and then booking them in somewhere else. it is tough on us, _ them in somewhere else. it is tough on us, you _ them in somewhere else. it is tough on us, you know? it is sink or swim. you _ on us, you know? it is sink or swim. you just— on us, you know? it is sink or swim. you just have — on us, you know? it is sink or swim. you just have to do the best you can _ if we are able to open on 12th of april, at least it _ gives us an end date. we then have a timeline and we can prepare and get ourselves ready, i land obviously it is still two monthsl away, and that is two further months of outgoings and no income which on the business side i of things isn't great. we still have rent to pay, - we have no relief on those things, so we have tens of thousands going out every month - with absolutely nothing coming in. so, that is moor hall behind me, we have a beautiful lake here. hospitality venues in lancashire and across the uk are taking on what these measures will mean. let's chat to paul, who runs a wedding venue. about three miles up the road. what have your clients been saying to you since yesterday's announcement? what conversations will you have as the day unfolds? we conversations will you have as the day unfolds?— conversations will you have as the da unfolds? ~ ., , ., day unfolds? we need to understand that 21st ofjune _ day unfolds? we need to understand that 21st ofjune is _ day unfolds? we need to understand that 21st ofjune is not _ day unfolds? we need to understand that 21st ofjune is not a _ day unfolds? we need to understand that 21st ofjune is not a best - that 21st ofjune is not a best before — that 21st ofjune is not a best before date, the date it is going to happen _ before date, the date it is going to happen. everyone is looking for certainty— happen. everyone is looking for certainty of dates moving forward. it is a _ certainty of dates moving forward. it is a huge — certainty of dates moving forward. it is a huge thing to plan the biggest _ it is a huge thing to plan the biggest event of their life and we need _ biggest event of their life and we need certainty that on the 21st of june we — need certainty that on the 21st of june we can reopen and do full sized weddings _ june we can reopen and do full sized weddings without restrictions. do weddings without restrictions. dy: you weddings without restrictions. dir? you understand when weddings without restrictions. dr? you understand when it comes to a virus that is unpredictable and deadly there has to be some uncertainty, in order to preserve life? ~ ., , ., , ., life? we do but we need to put a line in the _ life? we do but we need to put a line in the sand _ life? we do but we need to put a line in the sand at _ life? we do but we need to put a line in the sand at some - life? we do but we need to put a line in the sand at some point. i life? we do but we need to put a l line in the sand at some point. the vaccination — line in the sand at some point. the vaccination programme has been more successful— vaccination programme has been more successful than we have ever imagined _ successful than we have ever imagined with 16 million people vaccinated by yesterday, and we can have 10,000 people in sport stadiums, so why can't someone have the most _ stadiums, so why can't someone have the most important day of their life with 120 _ the most important day of their life with 120 people by the 21st ofjune? we just— with 120 people by the 21st ofjune? we just want that. do you think the government values hospitality the weight as other industries? it is government values hospitality the weight as other industries?- weight as other industries? it is a £130 billion _ weight as other industries? it is a £130 billion a — weight as other industries? it is a £130 billion a year _ weight as other industries? it is a £130 billion a year business, - weight as other industries? it is a £130 billion a year business, the l £130 billion a year business, the weddings — £130 billion a year business, the weddings business 15 billion inside that. weddings business 15 billion inside that we _ weddings business 15 billion inside that. we think it is seen as a more casuat— that. we think it is seen as a more casual employer and quite often is the first— casual employer and quite often is the first step onto the employment tadder— the first step onto the employment ladder of— the first step onto the employment ladder of people leaving university but we _ ladder of people leaving university but we would like a voice and we would _ but we would like a voice and we would like — but we would like a voice and we would like to be taken more seriously— would like to be taken more seriously as the third biggest private — seriously as the third biggest private employer in the uk. an indust private employer in the uk. in industry that has lost private employer in the uk. jiffu industry that has lost 660,000 jobs since march. looking ahead to the budget, a week away, what do you want to hearfrom budget, a week away, what do you want to hear from the chancellor? taste want to hear from the chancellor? we would like to hear the 5% to be reinstated for at least 12 months from _ reinstated for at least 12 months from when we reopen properly, and we would _ from when we reopen properly, and we would like _ from when we reopen properly, and we would like to _ from when we reopen properly, and we would like to see business rates reliet— would like to see business rates relief extended for a further 12 months. — relief extended for a further 12 months, because the vat, we've not had the _ months, because the vat, we've not had the advantage of that because we have been— had the advantage of that because we have been closed. our business will have been closed. our business will have been— have been closed. our business will have been closed. our business will have been closed for 16 months when we open _ have been closed for 16 months when we open on _ have been closed for 16 months when we open on the 21st ofjune. how im ortant we open on the 21st ofjune. how important have — we open on the 21st ofjune. how important have the _ we open on the 21st ofjune. hrmni important have the government schemes been?— important have the government schemes been? they have been important. _ schemes been? they have been important. the _ schemes been? they have been important, the furlough - schemes been? they have beenj important, the furlough scheme schemes been? they have been - important, the furlough scheme has been important in terms of giving the staff— been important in terms of giving the staff are ways to take home, and we just— the staff are ways to take home, and we just need to work. best the staff are ways to take home, and we just need to work.— we 'ust need to work. best of luck in we just need to work. best of luck in the days _ we just need to work. best of luck in the days ahead, _ we just need to work. best of luck in the days ahead, especially - we just need to work. best of luck. in the days ahead, especially having those conversations with exciting —— excited brides and grooms. a lovely man —— moment for them with the big weddings they have planned. paul touched upon it, the budget is next week. three fifths of those who have lost theirjobs and come off the payroll since last march are under 25 so this has had a huge impact on young people. we wait to hear what the chancellor says. at the moment he is dealing with one points i've —— he is dealing with 1.75 million people out of work. the prime minister says his step—by—step approach for easing coronavirus restrictions in england will be led by "data not dates". and if it all goes according to plan, it's hoped that all restrictions will be fully lifted by the summer. but is that realistic, and how normal can we expect things to be? we're joined now by epidemiologist professor azra ghani. thank you forjoining us. so many people will have watched the prime minister carefully yesterday. everyone has their own particular concerns. just talk about those different stages, first of all. they can move, the dates can move? absolutely. it is important to bear in mind that these are the earliest dates. the reason for this is, that we need enough time in between each of these stages to look at the data to assess what is happening to transmission and to understand how well the vaccine programme is going and those things together can enable us to ascertain whether we can continue gradually lifting and moving to the next stage and whether that will be safe and will prevent a surge in transmission. we do know that opening schools which will be the first thing that happens at the beginning of march is likely to increase transmission. that could allow infection rates to go up slightly but balanced against that, we will be vaccinating many more people over the march period and into easter, and that should help to push transmission back down again. it is a delicate process of balancing risk. and to move out of this in a way that does not put the nhs and lives at risk but allows businesses to open up as fast as possible. businesses to open up as fast as ossible. �* , . ~ businesses to open up as fast as ossible. �*, ., ,, ., possible. let's talk about the balance. for— possible. let's talk about the balance. for people - possible. let's talk about the balance. for people who - possible. let's talk about the balance. for people who are | possible. let's talk about the i balance. for people who are not scientists, schools are due to open in england to all pupils on march the 8th. how much after that will you get an indication of the impact? we have a period of about four weeks to look at the data and what will come through as we have these large scale infection surveys, we will be looking at cases and hospitalisations and deaths, and hopefully they will be falling rapidly due to the vaccine in addition to a lower rate of transmission. on top of that we will be looking at how many more people have been vaccinated and crucially, looking at some of the early data we heard about yesterday on how effective the vaccines are, in different populations, in practice rather than compared to the clinical trials we heard about before. the vaccine roller, _ trials we heard about before. the vaccine roller, we know, every day, hundreds thousands more people are getting the vaccines. how key is it that that keeps going on at the rate it has been happening? it is that that keeps going on at the rate it has been happening?— it has been happening? it is really ke . the it has been happening? it is really key- the limit— it has been happening? it is really key. the limit at _ it has been happening? it is really key. the limit at the _ it has been happening? it is really key. the limit at the moment - it has been happening? it is really - key. the limit at the moment remains supply, but i gather that supply isn't going to be an issue and that plans are in place to be able to vaccinate everybody by midsummer, in terms of the end ofjuly. the important thing really is that we assess the effectiveness, the second doses have to be factored in, and critically it is uptake, people being willing to take the vaccine, that will help us to come more quickly out of these restrictions. there are so many things we don't know, we don't know if the dates will stay as set out, and the 21st ofjune is the date, the final date, when things will be eased, but do you think some things will have to stay in place, for example wearing masks? what will have to stay? there will need to be — masks? what will have to stay? there will need to be some _ masks? what will have to stay? there will need to be some minor— masks? what will have to stay? ii—urr will need to be some minor measures that will not impact too much on daily life, but will enable us to keep infection levels at a low level, especially as we prepare for going into next winter when there will clearly always be a concern. things like mask wearing, a degree of social distancing when it is easy to do, and it may be that the dates change a little bit, as we assess the data, so it is important people bearin the data, so it is important people bear in mind that these are not fixed dates and they will have to be flexible to account for anything that happens, and there are clearly some things that could go better to plan, but other things for example like we saw with the new strains earlier in the year, that could mean that we might need to delay those dates. . , , that we might need to delay those dates. ., , , ., , dates. last summer was quite different to — dates. last summer was quite different to the _ dates. last summer was quite different to the summers - dates. last summer was quite different to the summers we i dates. last summer was quite - different to the summers we have known in the past. the prime minister was striking and optimistic and cautious tone at the same time. what do you think, what will summer 2021 through two august black? in w; 2021 through two august black? in my mind it will be — 2021 through two august black? in my mind it will be like _ 2021 through two august black? in my mind it will be like summer _ 2021 through two august black? in “n; mind it will be like summer last year. there will be a degree of socialising and hopefully, more businesses will be able to be open and people will be able to go on holiday, but we will need to stay a little bit more cautious, and keep those practices in place that we have become accustomed to, and also the basic public health and things like washing hands and staying apart a little bit. ., , ., ,, i. a little bit. professor, thank you very much _ a little bit. professor, thank you very much for— a little bit. professor, thank you very much for your _ a little bit. professor, thank you very much for your time - a little bit. professor, thank you very much for your time this - very much for your time this morning. one thing we have been talking about this morning is the detail and how the timetable will work out. and the other is how it feels, and we will talk about that now, we are joined feels, and we will talk about that now, we arejoined by a doctor of psychology at bristol university. we have, if you like, a goal in sight towards the end of this. that in itself brings challenges because maybe we are gearing up for it, but there is still a little way to go. yes, we are continuing on this path of uncertainty that we had since last march, and it is really draining. this lockdown has been very different. people have been feeling even more exhausted. our trust is eroded quite a lot because we don't know whether this really will be the last lockdown or whether something you will happen. we are told all of this promising information but we need to treat it with real caution, so people are still wavering and that uncertain place, which has a real impact on our physical and emotional health. given what you have described there, doctor, some things are outside our control, we can control how we run our lives, but the decision making, we cannot control, so how do you get that into a comfortable place in your head?— that into a comfortable place in ourhead? , , ., , your head? exactly, we try to focus on what we — your head? exactly, we try to focus on what we can _ your head? exactly, we try to focus on what we can control, _ your head? exactly, we try to focus on what we can control, what - your head? exactly, we try to focus on what we can control, what can i your head? exactly, we try to focus | on what we can control, what can be planned for effectively, what can we manage on a day—to—day basis at the moment? so we live at as much as we can in the present, make sure that we take care of ourselves, that we are getting enough exercise, and this last lockdown has been difficult because we have been in winter and we have not been going out, and people are feeling this malaise much more, and everything feels like it is out of our control, and actually we have quite a lot of things we can control, like how much we eat and drink and how we stay healthy and managing our expectations for knowing that we have vaccination, and things are looking promising for the end of the year, but it will be staged, it will be slow, and we need to make sure that we can come out of it safely. we are hearing that holiday firms and airlines are reporting a surge in interest and bookings over the past 2a of us. do you think so many people will be hopeful that they can perhaps do something, does it help that you have got hope, even though we are getting accustomed to things changing? we are getting accustomed to things chanauin? .,, , we are getting accustomed to things chanauin? , ., ., changing? hope is so important to us. we changing? hope is so important to us- we have _ changing? hope is so important to us. we have seen _ changing? hope is so important to us. we have seen this _ changing? hope is so important to us. we have seen this over - changing? hope is so important to i us. we have seen this over christmas when people were really looking forward to seeing their families over that holiday period, and suddenly we were told that we couldn't see our families, and that led to a mood of despondency across the nation because everybody had plans for that. and having that hope restored is so important for well—being. it is important for the mood of the nation and within households and families, having something to look forward to, even if you haven't booked a holiday, plan for things in the summer that you can do with your family and friends and people that you will see, and maybe have another plan as well. in an ideal world we would be flying to a hot destination and it would be fabulous, but if things get more restricted again, what can you do within the restrictions? it is likely that we have the same kind of summer that we had last year, when we can mix with some people outdoors, so have a couple of plans in place so that we are not caught short. ., , ., , ., short. there are small things that can make a _ short. there are small things that can make a difference. _ short. there are small things that can make a difference. made - short. there are small things that can make a difference. made a i short. there are small things that. can make a difference. made a 17th at the earliest... it seems so odd. even physical contact is really important, isn't it? it even physical contact is really important, isn't it?— important, isn't it? it is so important- _ important, isn't it? it is so important. we _ important, isn't it? it is so important. we rely - important, isn't it? it is so important. we rely on - important, isn't it? it is so i important. we rely on touch, important, isn't it? it is so - important. we rely on touch, a lot. it is more than the physical contact. it is the connection is that we have. one of the reasons people are feeling exhausted and lonely is a lot of that nonverbal contact, that non—physical contact as well, you think about it, in our work days, when you would walk around and nod and say hello to people, you would have a little bit of a connection and that is so important for our well—being, it makes us aware that we are not alone. the majority of communication is nothing to do with verbal, it is about eye contact, smiles, the way we face people and we know that we are missing that from other people, and just seeing other people and smiling. and just seeing other people and smilinu. . ~ and just seeing other people and smilinu. ., ,, i. and just seeing other people and smilinu. . ~i ,, and just seeing other people and smilinu. . ~i . and just seeing other people and smilinu. . . ., ,, smiling. thank you so much. thank ou ve smiling. thank you so much. thank you very much _ smiling. thank you so much. thank you very much for _ smiling. thank you so much. thank you very much for your— smiling. thank you so much. thank you very much for your time. - you very much for your time. literally, not a day goes by that i am not grateful that i have work, which, as you come into a workplace, and you have some of those normal things that i know so many people don't have at the moment. we are lucky. we get to sit near people, we get to smile constantly. time for the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning. i'm asad ahmad. the metropolitan police is to review the death of an m16 officerwhose naked body was found inside a bag at his pimlico flat. gareth williams was found dead in 2010 with a coroner later concluding mr williams was unlawfully killed. the police have said new information has now come to light. london ambulance staff will begin wearing body cameras from today, to protect them from violent assaults and threats. the new kit will be worn as part of a trial by staff considered to be most at risk of attack. latest figures show there were more than 500 assaults on ambulance staff since april. a vicarfrom belvedere is using his online gaming skills to get the church to reach out to new people. reverend simon archer began what's called 'gaming for god' during lockdown to bring people together and create a forum to chat and engage with the church. he's affectionately known as "the vicar of facebook gaming". it's a very social activity, and i think it's been a real saviour for people as well, i think it's really helped people to find each other. i think there really is a connection between gaming and church. and that is something to do with the way people come together. london fashion week ends today. it's been the first fully online event and the first gender—neutral one in its history. this was one of the shows to be streamed. it's by bora aksu. although in other shows drag queens featured on the catwalk for the first time. let's take a look at the travel situation now. hammersmith and city line has severe delays due to train cancellations. jubilee is part—suspended due to a signalfailure. there are severe delays on the rest of the line too. on the buses an ongoing strike mean 60 routes across london are affected. check for the list of routes on twitter @bbctravelalert. and on the roads finchley road is down to one lane at hendon way for water works. now the weather with sara. good morning to you. there's a lot of talk of springlike warmth across london and the south—east this week but it is a chilly start this morning. we've got some patchy ground frost out toward the suburbs and a little bit of mist and fog around first thing but the winds are picking up from the south through this morning, gusting 35 mph through this afternoon. but then a boost in our temperatures with some sunshine, hazy at times, we are up into the mid—teens, above average for the time of year. and overnight, the wind still a key feature of the weather, perhaps a little bit of cloud coming and going at times. but the temperatures will really hold up overnight with the wind slowly easing, but we will stay in double figures into tomorrow and then it could be even a bit warmer still for tomorrow. again, good spells of sunshine, staying dry. we could see 16 or 17 celsius. looks like that's going to be the peak of the warm weather through this week. but right the way through this weekend, we stay dry, sunny and above average with those temperatures. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in an hour. hello, this is breakfast with louise minchin and charlie stayt. "morning live" follows us on bbc one later. let's find out what's in store with kym and gethin. good morning, how you doing? thank ou, we good morning, how you doing? thank you. we are — good morning, how you doing? thank you. we are doing _ good morning, how you doing? thank you, we are doing well! _ could this be it? with the road map planned out and the journey out of lockdown now beginning, life as we used to know it, feels like it will be able to start again. 49 days until i get a haircut! there wasn't a clear date for hugs, but i can see them coming and we can start thinking about that pint down the local. but it's still several weeks until pubs and restaurants will be fully open. chef anna haugh's here to tell us whether the hospitality industry can cope until then. and we also want to hear from you. what do you think about the easing of restrictions? is it what you hoped for? perhaps you've already started planning meet ups? let us know your thoughts. also coming up. from the latest promising vaccine results, to whether wearing glasses protects you from covid? dr punam krishan separates the fact from the fiction in today's health headlines. fresh after performing life saving surgery on a dog who swallowed a lighter, our vet drjames greenwood is on hand with a pet first aid masterclass that could save your dog's life. plus, he'll reveal why sniffer dogs are detecting covid with a near 100% accuracy. also coming up, she has the most famous fringe in telly! claudia winkleman tells us about her new bbc radio 2 show which starts this weekend and reveals how she's coping with those first day nerves. and, make sure you've had your breakfast if you want to keep up with strictly's luba mushtuk, as she'll be putting us through our paces with leg day. plus, she'll reveal the ways to improve your balance and prevent a fall. see you at 9.15! i could definitely do with that thing about preventing falling over! we know from yesterday's coronavirus announcement that restrictions on foreign travel will remain in place until at least may. self—catering stays and camping breaks in england should re—sta rt after easter, while hotels could re—open from mid—may. breakfast�*sjohn maguire is near bude in cornwall for us this morning. i want to say lucky him but the weather does not look that fantastic! the weather is pretty good, very good, but at always, carol was bang on the money, it is very windy down here! welcome to the wonderful north cornwall coast. a few miles down the road from beauty, this is a holiday park, this is an idea of what they do here, these touring caravans are here for storage, they are closed at the moment. there is a cafe and shop which will remain closed for a few months yet. if people come here with their touring caravans from april 12, all things going well according to the government's four pillars, then things like shower blocks in then things like shower blocks in the toilet block will have to remain closed. people will be able to come to a static caravan because that is classed as a self catering and then that second date, made the 17th, that second date, made the 17th, thatis that second date, made the 17th, that is when things really started to open up. —— may 17. morning, thank you for braving the winter. you are the owner, what did you make of the announcements? it you are the owner, what did you make of the announcements?— of the announcements? it was good that we can — of the announcements? it was good that we can open — of the announcements? it was good that we can open in _ of the announcements? it was good that we can open in april, _ of the announcements? it was good that we can open in april, i - of the announcements? it was good that we can open in april, i was - that we can open in april, i was pretty devastated that we could not open the cafe and the camping side of things until may. we are opening the holiday lets in april but we cannot open the toilet block. we really miss our customers coming into the cafe. pretty devastating, really, just another few months but in hindsight it is the right thing to do. ., , , ., ., “ in hindsight it is the right thing to do. ., , , ., ., ,, ., to do. your nephew george worked out 52 da s to do. your nephew george worked out 52 days until— to do. your nephew george worked out 52 days until april _ to do. your nephew george worked out 52 days until april 12th _ to do. your nephew george worked out 52 days until april 12th so _ to do. your nephew george worked out 52 days until april 12th so you - to do. your nephew george worked out 52 days until april 12th so you have - 52 days until april 12th so you have a target, a road map for a first time. �* , , ., time. it's the first time we have had that kind — time. it's the first time we have had that kind of _ time. it's the first time we have had that kind of information - time. it's the first time we have had that kind of information so| time. it's the first time we have i had that kind of information so at least we can plan and be in a better position than we were last year. good morning, you work for karen, emma, you are on the furlough at the moment, for the second time. how have things been for you?— have things been for you? pretty borin: , have things been for you? pretty boring. to _ have things been for you? pretty boring. to be _ have things been for you? pretty boring, to be honest. _ have things been for you? pretty boring, to be honest. the - have things been for you? pretty boring, to be honest. the first i have things been for you? pretty l boring, to be honest. the first one was in _ boring, to be honest. the first one was in the — boring, to be honest. the first one was in the summer so the weather was quite nicely _ was in the summer so the weather was quite nicely. this time i have been inside _ quite nicely. this time i have been inside guite — quite nicely. this time i have been inside quite a lot more. i think everyone — inside quite a lot more. i think everyone has because it is so cold. and it _ everyone has because it is so cold. and it is _ everyone has because it is so cold. and it is a — everyone has because it is so cold. and it is a year—round business here, increasingly many places and businesses are in a place like cornwall, you are open all year round with the cafe but you are on furlough now because it is not a seasonaljob? it is a lot busier in the summer definitely, but we do have a lot of regulars who come in through the winter so we miss all of them and cannot wait to have them back. you must have been really looking forward to the summer and trying to catch up. looking forward to the summer and trying to catch up— trying to catch up. yes, the thing is we will be _ trying to catch up. yes, the thing is we will be opening _ trying to catch up. yes, the thing is we will be opening up - trying to catch up. yes, the thing is we will be opening up straight| is we will be opening up straight into a _ is we will be opening up straight into a busy summer again from having all of the _ into a busy summer again from having all of the staff office for a few months. _ all of the staff office for a few months, and then... —— having the staff— months, and then... —— having the staff not— months, and then... —— having the staff not here _ months, and then... —— having the staff not here for a few months. thank— staff not here for a few months. thank you — staff not here for a few months. thank you for hosting us here this morning. we will ask kevin the cameraman give us a shot of the sea, you canjust about cameraman give us a shot of the sea, you can just about see it and as basil faulty famously said, it is over there between the land and the sky. it's nice to be outdoors. that a little thought about when and how, a lot of questions about sport people people are picking through and seeing the bits that matter to them. lots of questions around sport. hopefully i can answer them now. the route out of lockdown for sport was outlined by the prime minister yesterday, this is the plan. and it's all subject to the same caveats as everything else. when schools return on the 8th of march, pupils will be allowed to take part in sport, that includes within wraparound ca re. then three weeks later, on the 29th of march, football and other organised team sport can start again. golf courses and tennis courts will also re—open. gyms and other indoor leisure facilities can open again no earlier than april the 12th. and yes, that does mean soft play! indoor children's parties and sporting activies are included in that. and may the 17th is the earliest that fans will be back in stadiums. up to 1,000 indoors, and 4,000 at smaller outdoor venues. crowds of up to 10,000 could be allowed into larger stadiums. it's been a long and uncertain period for those involved in grassroots sport. we've been to speak to some of those affected and find out how they're preparing for its return. at this community club near oldham, they're repainting the lines to get ready to welcome back players and their families. chadderton park sports club boasts football alongside dozens of sports for all ages, ranging from rounders, netball, even walking. ian has been a coach for over a decade. this is where they get together, this is where they exercise. this is what gets them talking. this isn'tjust about children playing football as well, it's about the families getting together on the sidelines and having their weekly catch up. so in terms of, in terms of the impact, i think it's huge. grassroots is extremely important from a mental health perspective, from children, as i say, playing, talking, sharing ideas when they're together in the team. i just think it's fantastic and grassroots is extremely important for that to happen. ian has been missing the weekends here so he is catching up with some of his players. 14—year—old frank and 15—year—old isabella. both play on the same team, and both are looking forward to getting back on the pitch. hi, izzy, hi, frank. i hope you're both keeping well. ijust wanted to have a catch up to see how you're feeling. we have not been able to socialise with our friends, play football, work as a team together. and missing that has been a big impact in our development. what about you, frankie, how does it make you feel, the thought that we can get back together soon and do some training and stuff? it's what most boys and girls look forward to on the weekend. - mum and dad love it, like, i they're there every weekend on the sidelines cheering me on and stuff so it's _ brilliant for me and them. excellent work! with lockdown grinding sport to a halt, some have been thinking of other ways to keep the games they love going. john cavill, who is a tennis coach in milton keynes, has been running online lessons for children in the hope of inspiring youngsters to take up the game. you don't need a court, you don't need a racket, you can use frying pans, you can use a wooden spoon. socks scrunched up into a ball for a ball. so lots of different stuff that you can use around the house. but while outdoor pools and tennis courts can look forward to reopening from the end of next month, others, like indoor swimming centres and gyms, will have to wait a few weeks longer. at least we have a date, right, so at least we know when we should be opening and we can plan for it and get ready. but it's still two months away, you know. it's still a long old wait. this whole year, we've been closed 9.5 months and it will be a total of 11, over 11 months by the time we can reopen. it's been a long, bleak winter when for most of us sport has become a solitary experience. it seems a return to how things used to be is still a long way off but at least now, we can see the path. let's speak now to former footballer and grassroots sports campaigner, robbie savage. good morning. good morning! what is our good morning. good morning! what is your reaction — good morning. good morning! what is your reaction first _ good morning. good morning! what is your reaction first of _ good morning. good morning! what is your reaction first of all _ good morning. good morning! what is your reaction first of all to _ good morning. good morning! what is your reaction first of all to that - your reaction first of all to that reaction from yesterday? first and foremost, reaction from yesterday? first and foremost. l _ reaction from yesterday? first and foremost, i thought _ reaction from yesterday? first and foremost, i thought ian _ reaction from yesterday? first and foremost, i thought ian spoke - reaction from yesterday? first and | foremost, i thought ian spoke very well there. my under 15 side are delighted, i'm personally very excited, and everyone around the uk, i would personally like to see the sports back in line with the schools but oliver dowden promised that the grassroots sports would be first back and it is. i have been personal contact with matt hancock about grassroots sport and they have been true to their word to the youngsters are delighted. haifa true to their word to the youngsters are delighted-— are delighted. how important is it for the youngsters _ are delighted. how important is it for the youngsters to _ are delighted. how important is it for the youngsters to get - are delighted. how important is it for the youngsters to get back - are delighted. how important is itj for the youngsters to get back out there? , ,., ., «i ., there? hugely important, we know that physical _ there? hugely important, we know that physical activity _ there? hugely important, we know that physical activity can _ there? hugely important, we know that physical activity can improve l that physical activity can improve mental health. it can also improve concentration in youngsters which they are going to need ever so much now because we know how much they have missed in their education. so it can improve that. it allows them, as ian said in their report, to build friendships and camaraderie, to run around and have fun which is the most important thing in grassroots sport, having fun. what grassroots sport, having fun. what about those _ grassroots sport, having fun. what about those kids, _ grassroots sport, having fun. what about those kids, i'm _ grassroots sport, having fun. what about those kids, i'm curious about the kids who are not in sports clubs that don't have the chance to go and do this. do you feel there is a generation of children who will miss out because they haven't had the chance over the last year to be a little bit pushed into grassroots sport and playing a sport outdoors? how do you reach them? personally, i have started — how do you reach them? personally, i have started the _ how do you reach them? personally, i have started the savage _ how do you reach them? personally, i have started the savage foundation i have started the savage foundation with macclesfield fc, and we have introduced free grassroots football for the local community of macclesfield. because no youngsters should be, you know, should be allowed to play —— not allowed to play grassroots sport. so we have opened up macclesfield fc, said the accidents can come and play, as soon as the pitch is ready —— so the students can come and play. as soon as the pitch is ready. we have had over 300 applicants and it is so important for physical and mental well—being to access sport. in the landscape has changed, some parents might not be able to put their youngster into a grassroots environment. so we have now launched the savage foundation for free football, a free saturday league. and what macclesfield fc have done is incorporated a grassroots community and they will allow them to let them train for free on their new facility. so what we're doing is exceptional. and for me i think it is giving kids an opportunity to access sport. 50 is giving kids an opportunity to access sport-— is giving kids an opportunity to access sort. ., , ., , , access sport. so that is team sports on the way — access sport. so that is team sports on the way back. _ access sport. so that is team sports on the way back. what _ access sport. so that is team sports on the way back. what about - access sport. so that is team sports| on the way back. what about people who go to the gym, use leisure centres to keep themselves physically and mentally fit? they are not going to reopen until at the earliest april 12. do you think that is fair? ~ ., ., , ., , is fair? well, i go to the gym, as ou can is fair? well, i go to the gym, as you can tell. _ is fair? well, i go to the gym, as you can tell, sally! _ is fair? well, i go to the gym, as you can tell, sally! in _ is fair? well, i go to the gym, as you can tell, sally! in the - is fair? well, i go to the gym, as you can tell, sally! in the gems i j you can tell, sally! in the gems i have been to, —— jeans i have been to, they have done all the precautions, i have turned my garage into a gym so i'm very fortunate. but when i did access them, all the protocols were in place. i think possibly they could have been brought back sooner. i know how much it means to people, their mental and physical well—being, to access a gym. personally i would like to have seen them brought back sooner but we have to be guided by the evidence. it cannot come soon enough for me and everybody around the uk. bind and everybody around the uk. and what do you _ and everybody around the uk. and what do you make about fans are slowly being allowed back into games? i don't think you will have experienced that since he went into macclesfield. trio. experienced that since he went into macclesfield.— macclesfield. no, we haven't got a team et! macclesfield. no, we haven't got a team yet! as _ macclesfield. no, we haven't got a team yet! as a _ macclesfield. no, we haven't got a team yet! as a is _ macclesfield. no, we haven't got a team yet! as a is the _ macclesfield. no, we haven't got a team yet! as a is the fans - macclesfield. no, we haven't got a team yet! as a is the fans are - team yet! as a is the fans are allowed back in, i think the big thing is will be the euro championships which will be a huge test. whether it will be as predicted or if it will be in one country, how fans will access the game, the travel, so i think they will be a huge test for next season for us in our domestic leagues. it will be great to see fans back in. we have seen so many great games, and you can imagine the fans being in the stadium is, how much it will mean to them. it in the stadium is, how much it will mean to them.— mean to them. it will make a big difference- _ mean to them. it will make a big difference- i— mean to them. it will make a big difference. i don't _ mean to them. it will make a big difference. i don't think - mean to them. it will make a big difference. i don't think we - mean to them. it will make a big difference. i don't think we are i difference. i don't think we are going to let you go just yet, charlie had a question for you. trivia charlie had a question for you. two questions. — charlie had a question for you. two questions. are _ charlie had a question for you. two questions, are you just going to let their hair— questions, are you just going to let their hair go? and also, is that a onesie? — their hair go? and also, is that a onesie? ., , ., ., , their hair go? and also, is that a onesie? ., , ., .,, ~ onesie? no, it is a top! and the hair, i onesie? no, it is a top! and the hair. i see _ onesie? no, it is a top! and the hair, i see yours _ onesie? no, it is a top! and the hair, i see yours are _ onesie? no, it is a top! and the hair, i see yours are trying - onesie? no, it is a top! and the hair, i see yours are trying to i onesie? no, it is a top! and the| hair, i see yours are trying to be like mine, mine is going great as well. —— mine is going grey as well. i have hair envy! well. -- mine is going grey as well. i have hair envy!— i have hair envy! such a good message _ i have hair envy! such a good message to _ i have hair envy! such a good message to hear, _ i have hair envy! such a good message to hear, get - i have hair envy! such a good message to hear, get out i i have hair envy! such a good i message to hear, get out there. i have hair envy! such a good - message to hear, get out there. yes, treat for message to hear, get out there. yes, great for all — message to hear, get out there. yes, great for all the _ message to hear, get out there. yes, great for all the kids _ message to hear, get out there. is: great for all the kids already involved in grassroots sport but it will be challenging for the children who are not in a team or not involved. we need to think of ways that those children get back outside and exercising a bit more. here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. what a lovely raging river, carol! isn't it beautiful? good morning, everybody. a chilly start for most of us but a mild —— for some of us but a mild day for most. some rain and wind in the forecast. there was snow above 600 metres in scotland which will fade through the morning. something which will not is the met office and the weather warning for the rain in scotland. that is valid from noon today until noon tomorrow, the risk of flooding and destruction because the rain is falling on saturated ground. —— flooding and disruption. there is some rain infringing into north—west wales but for the rest of the south—west and wales, cloud and drizzle. south and east, it is drier and brighter. it will be windy, gusty winds, the strongest gusts out towards the west with exposure but even as a pushover in the exposure of north—east england, we have gusty winds. it is mild, temperature is above average for the time of year. nine in levick, 13 to m widely across northern ireland, england, wales, and southern scotland. tonight we had a band of rain producing rain in similar areas although getting into more of wales and northern england. still windy as well, but very mild for the time of year. temperatures no lower than eight and 12. these temperatures will be pretty good as daytime maximum temperatures at this stage in february. mind you, it will not necessarily last. we do have a weather front which will be producing rain through the course of tomorrow, perhaps not as potent and it is a dividing line between the south and east and the milder air further north and it will remain mild as you go to the next few days. here is the weather front, not as potent as today but still producing some rain, the wind will not be as potent as today but still blustery with some sunshine, we could see some temperatures up to 17 if we have cloud breaks and lengthy spells of sunshine. into thursday, there will still be some showers across central part of scotland. a few coming in across western areas, a subtle change in the wind direction so temperatures dropping a bit. these are still above average for this stage in february. as we head towards the end of the week and the weekend, high—pressure sites to build a do. where toppling around the start —— to build in. we have weather fronts around the top of it, weather fronts around the top of it, we will have some spots of rain but for most of us it will be drier and milder, and chilly nights. friday and saturday night, some of us could see a frost. i will tell you all about that tomorrow. it is back again! the idea of the "blitz spirit" is often spoken about, but did it ever really exist? that's a question that the historian lucy worsley has been exploring in her latest documentary. in it, she follows the lives of six people who lived through the bombings during the second world war. we'll speak to her in a minute, but first, let's take a look. the fact was, nowhere was truly safe. and who lived and who died turned on the flip of a coin. this little thing is a marvellous illustration of the vagaries of fate. it's a cigarette lighter, which belonged to an arp warden called george hutchins. he had it in his breast pocket during a raid one night. and that small mundane fact saved his life. you can see that the shrapnel has gone through his lighter and not through his heart. that such a tiny, everyday decision, whether or not to take your lighter, whether to go left or right down the street, had life or death consequences, must have been very hard to get your head around. lucy worsleyjoins us now. what a story. good morning. i'm glad to see you have a suitably stacked book shelf behind you! talk to us about blitz spirit, because people have talked about it over the last few months. the big question which you are trying to get to the bottom of it is, did it exist? did you are trying to get to the bottom of it is, did it exist?— of it is, did it exist? did it exist? it— of it is, did it exist? did it exist? it is _ of it is, did it exist? did it exist? it is such _ of it is, did it exist? did it exist? it is such a - of it is, did it exist? did it | exist? it is such a pertinent question for what we are going through now, this intense national crisis that has been unfolding. and i think some people would tell you, no, there is something a bit dodgy about this. it was manipulated by the government as a propaganda thing. but my definition of blitz spirit, which comes from the evidence given by these six people that we had in the programme, is that we had in the programme, is that it did really exist. and i think it is existing in individual moment of sacrifice and when people volunteered to step up and help other people. 50 volunteered to step up and help other people-— volunteered to step up and help other --eole. ., , ., ., other people. so to explain how you want about this, _ other people. so to explain how you want about this, you _ other people. so to explain how you want about this, you have _ other people. so to explain how you want about this, you have taken - want about this, you have taken diaries of people who lived through it and brought them to life, effectively?— it and brought them to life, effectively? it and brought them to life, effectivel ? , , ._ , effectively? this is the way, this is the bread _ effectively? this is the way, this is the bread and _ effectively? this is the way, this is the bread and butter - effectively? this is the way, this is the bread and butter of - effectively? this is the way, this is the bread and butter of the i is the bread and butter of the story, you have a question you have to answer, go back to the sources. we have booked to the table the actual words, the testimonies and the words of six people who lived in london during the bombing. we know it happened across the country but we focused on london. each of these characters is brought back to life for us by an actor so every word you hear is somebody who wrote it at the time so they are talking to us beyond the grave. some of these people have descendants who are still alive and we meet them at the end of the story which leaves us on a hopeful note, i hope, life did go on despite the terror of the war. i think what it is striking, is, it is written with respect not by historians or politicians, it is the unvarnished truth. we historians or politicians, it is the unvarnished truth.— unvarnished truth. we went for ordinary heroes _ unvarnished truth. we went for ordinary heroes in _ unvarnished truth. we went for ordinary heroes in the - unvarnished truth. we went for ordinary heroes in the front - unvarnished truth. we went for i ordinary heroes in the front line, heroes today as they were then. we have a wide range of different genders and social classes and backgrounds, we have a nigerian law student turned arp warden, we had a man who worked for sainsbury�*s, we had rather an elegant lady who was an artist before the war he became a nurse. and with her knowledge of anatomy she was given the job of piecing together dismembered bodies. and another of my favourites is a working class jewish and another of my favourites is a working classjewish teenage girl born in romford he became a war reporter, reporting on —— who became a war reporter, reporting on the conditions in the war. and her reporting was so powerful that it got to government.— reporting was so powerful that it got to government. what parallels would ou got to government. what parallels would you draw— got to government. what parallels would you draw between _ got to government. what parallels would you draw between what - got to government. what parallels - would you draw between what happened then and the last year or so? it has been running _ then and the last year or so? it has been running through _ then and the last year or so? it has been running through my _ then and the last year or so? it has been running through my mind - then and the last year or so? it i—s been running through my mind running through the show this morning, the government messaging, the advice, what risks we accept, you can see the government struggling with these risks as well in 191i1. this is unprecedented, nobody knew how to keep themselves safe. they had all sorts of difficulties like the bombing in the east end was terrible, conditions were awful, but had you been present in the east end, you might have felt it has been covered up. the government was censoring the press because they did not want to release information to the enemy about where the bombs were falling and that could mean that they would be better able to aim. first of all, did they think that people should shut in the tube stations? first of all they did not think so because they wanted to run the trains but then they realised it was more important to have people shelter. just like today, there were terrible things happening but they were inspirational moments of sacrifice. i were inspirational moments of sacrifice. ., �* ,, ., were inspirational moments of sacrifice. ,, ., ., . sacrifice. i don't know how much time ou sacrifice. i don't know how much time you have — sacrifice. i don't know how much time you have had _ sacrifice. i don't know how much time you have had to _ sacrifice. i don't know how much time you have had to think - sacrifice. i don't know how much | time you have had to think these things through, but people who do yourjob in the future, it will probably be you, actually, we'll be looking at this time as history. what was it like in 2020, 2021, in the uk? that will become something the uk? that will become something the historians will examine over time. it's a strange thought, we are all too busy trying to survive it right now. all too busy trying to survive it right now— right now. yes, yes. i'm 'ust lookin: right now. yes, yes. i'm 'ust looking at i right now. yes, yes. i'm 'ust looking at what i right now. yes, yes. i'mjust looking at what evidence - right now. yes, yes. i'mjust looking at what evidence is i right now. yes, yes. i'mjust- looking at what evidence is being recorded and what is being produced and what the historians will be turning to, who are the characters of this period that we will go back to like these six that i have chosen to like these six that i have chosen to look at? and to help the historians of the future, if you know all you have in your family anyone who is more than 80 years old he remembered this period in our history, 80 years ago so there will be not many of them left, now is the time to talk to them about what they remember. . ~ time to talk to them about what they remember. ., ,, , ., , . remember. thank you very much indeed for talkin: remember. thank you very much indeed for talking to — remember. thank you very much indeed for talking to us — remember. thank you very much indeed for talking to us this _ remember. thank you very much indeed for talking to us this morning. _ blitz spirit with lucy worsley airs tonight at 8.30pm on bbc one and iplayer. you're watching bbc breakfast. it's 8.59. good morning, this is bbc news. i'm victoria derbyshire. here are the headlines this tuesday morning. borisjohnson insists his four—step plan to ease england's lockdown is a one—way road to freedom, despite criticism from a number of businesses and some of his own mps. the government's strategy could see all covid restrictions fully lifted by the 21st ofjune, with parts of the economy being reopened along the way. it isn'tjust on us in government, although we will play our part, it is on everyone to act together to keep doing their bit, to make sure that we can hit these dates and get out of this as soon as we possibly can. let us know your reaction to the lockdown timetable — particularly if you work in hospitality. some people who run pubs are saying they cant wait until mid—may to reopen fully, their business just won't make it.

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