to detect — scientific discovery is there? than to detect life beyond earth? there isn't _ to detect life beyond earth? there isn't you — to detect life beyond earth? there isn't. you know, even if it doesn't, that's— isn't. you know, even if it doesn't, that's really— isn't. you know, even if it doesn't, that's really interesting as well. you know. _ that's really interesting as well. you know, if we don't detect life on mars, _ you know, if we don't detect life on mars, we _ you know, if we don't detect life on mars, we then have to ask ourselves, while, _ mars, we then have to ask ourselves, white, why— mars, we then have to ask ourselves, while, why didn't you? we know that it was— while, why didn't you? we know that it was habitable three and half bitiioh— it was habitable three and half billion years ago, why wasn't their life on— billion years ago, why wasn't their life on mars? like there was on earth — life on mars? like there was on earth you _ life on mars? like there was on earth. you know, it's kind of time you start — earth. you know, it's kind of time you start thinking, well, maybe there _ you start thinking, well, maybe there has— you start thinking, well, maybe there has to be some sort of special spark _ there has to be some sort of special spark its— there has to be some sort of special spark. it's not a case, you know, you build — spark. it's not a case, you know, you build it — spark. it's not a case, you know, you build it and they come, that life just — you build it and they come, that life just happens, there needs to be something — life just happens, there needs to be something special that occurs. cleariy — something special that occurs. cleariy it — something special that occurs. clearly it happened on earth, did it happen— clearly it happened on earth, did it happen on— clearly it happened on earth, did it happen on mars? that's what we want to know _ amazing. 205,000 km away. jonathan, thank you very much. great to see people in nasa so excited. this is an extraordinary moment of course for nassau. and for perseverance sending back those very first images of mars. a remarkable, itjust landed and we are already getting the pictures. perseverance has a lot of cameras on it. it has 23 cameras on it. we've already had the first image back. jonathan, thank you very much. monica grady is professor of space science she is in milton keynes shejoins us space science she is in milton keynes she joins us now. thank you very much. we've been watching these scenes ofjubilance. but the smile on yourface. like scenes ofjubilance. but the smile on your face. like the smile on jonathan's face. on your face. like the smile on jonathan's face.— on your face. like the smile on jonathan's face. your reaction to what we've _ jonathan's face. your reaction to what we've just _ jonathan's face. your reaction to what we've just seen. _ jonathan's face. your reaction to | what we've just seen. absolutely delighted. it's the old seven mihutes_ delighted. it's the old seven minutes of terror. and you're sitting — minutes of terror. and you're sitting here and my partner comes, my hands— sitting here and my partner comes, my hands were sweating. great. we can my hands were sweating. great. we cah go— my hands were sweating. great. we cah go oh— my hands were sweating. great. we can go on into the next bit now. perseverance can check itself out, receive _ perseverance can check itself out, receive at — perseverance can check itself out, receive at least one of its cameras is working — receive at least one of its cameras is working. it's fantastic. now it can get— is working. it's fantastic. now it can get on. _ is working. it's fantastic. now it can get on, dig up some rocks and we can get on, dig up some rocks and we can bring _ can get on, dig up some rocks and we can bring it _ can get on, dig up some rocks and we can bring it back.— can bring it back. fantastic. we were watching _ can bring it back. fantastic. we were watching the _ can bring it back. fantastic. we were watching the pictures - can bring it back. fantastic. we were watching the pictures of. can bring it back. fantastic. we . were watching the pictures of nasa headquarters. it was incredibly calm as they were monitoring perseverance perilous journey in those last seven minutes. it looks like it was a textbook landing. but they were at every single minute things that could have gone wrong, what were there? , ., , , there? yes. not 'ust every five seconds or so. — there? yes. notjust every five seconds or so. one _ there? yes. notjust every five seconds or so. one of- there? yes. notjust every five seconds or so. one of the - there? yes. notjust every five| seconds or so. one of the little pyrotechnics fires are a dozen fires or fires— pyrotechnics fires are a dozen fires or tires or— pyrotechnics fires are a dozen fires or fires or fires in the wrong direction, _ or fires or fires in the wrong direction, the wrong sequence to top ahythihg _ direction, the wrong sequence to top anything could've gone wrong. and you can _ anything could've gone wrong. and you can see — anything could've gone wrong. and you can see from the reaction the scientists— you can see from the reaction the scientists and engineers when they alljumped up when the announcement came that _ alljumped up when the announcement came that perseverance was on the ground _ came that perseverance was on the ground and — came that perseverance was on the ground and had landed. you could 'ust ground and had landed. you could just see _ ground and had landed. you could just see these sort of release of tension — just see these sort of release of tension in — just see these sort of release of tension in everybody. i'm here sitting — tension in everybody. i'm here sitting irr— tension in everybody. i'm here sitting in the back room by myself with two— sitting in the back room by myself with two cats just going ge! sitting in the back room by myself with two catsjust going ge! it's 'ust with two catsjust going ge! it's just really, really great news. tell me about the _ just really, really great news. tell me about the communication they have with the rover. how instantaneous is a? is a partly pre—program, doesn't know what it needs to do or they guiding a? know what it needs to do or they acuidin a? , �* know what it needs to do or they auiadin a? , �* know what it needs to do or they auidina a? , �* guiding a? they can't guide it. it preprogram- _ guiding a? they can't guide it. it preprogram- it _ guiding a? they can't guide it. it preprogram. it takes _ guiding a? they can't guide it. it preprogram. it takes 11 - guiding a? they can't guide it. it preprogram. it takes 11 minutes| guiding a? they can't guide it. it i preprogram. it takes 11 minutes for the signal— preprogram. it takes 11 minutes for the signal to get back from mars to the signal to get back from mars to the earth — the signal to get back from mars to the earth. we heard the lady calling out12_ the earth. we heard the lady calling out 12 km _ the earth. we heard the lady calling out 12 km to go. it's not somebody think— out 12 km to go. it's not somebody think it _ out 12 km to go. it's not somebody think it oh — out 12 km to go. it's not somebody think it oh no, it's your turn right, — think it oh no, it's your turn right, send _ think it oh no, it's your turn right, send a signal. you can't do that _ right, send a signal. you can't do that it _ right, send a signal. you can't do that it all— right, send a signal. you can't do that. it all has to be preprogram. and that's — that. it all has to be preprogram. and that's why it is so worrying. because — and that's why it is so worrying. because you've taken and its many measurements as you can, you've modelled _ measurements as you can, you've modelled everything and you've tested — modelled everything and you've tested everything. but things can go wi°ii9~ _ tested everything. but things can go wi°ii9~ we _ tested everything. but things can go wrong. we know that. and so yes, absolutely— wrong. we know that. and so yes, absolutely textbook. this is the second — absolutely textbook. this is the second time nasa has done this. the more _ second time nasa has done this. the more times— second time nasa has done this. the more times they've done this the more _ more times they've done this the more confidence you have that it's going _ more confidence you have that it's going to _ more confidence you have that it's going to work out right. the evidence — going to work out right. the evidence of _ going to work out right. the: evidence of getting that going to work out right. ti9: evidence of getting that picture back so swiftly, it was within a minute, really touching down on the surface. very, very quick. they seen almost in real time what it's doing? they are saying what it was doing 11 minutes _ they are saying what it was doing 11 minutes ago. so they are saying what it was doing 11 minutes age-— they are saying what it was doing 11 minutes ao. , . , . minutes ago. so why has that picture come back so — minutes ago. so why has that picture come back so quickly _ minutes ago. so why has that picture come back so quickly then? - minutes ago. so why has that picture come back so quickly then? it - minutes ago. so why has that picture come back so quickly then? it will. come back so quickly then? it will have taken _ come back so quickly then? it will have taken the _ come back so quickly then? it will have taken the picture _ come back so quickly then? it will have taken the picture when - come back so quickly then? it will have taken the picture when it - have taken the picture when it landed — have taken the picture when it landed it— have taken the picture when it landed. it landed 11 minutes ago. so landed. it landed 11 minutes ago. sc what landed. it landed 11 minutes ago. what we are landed. it landed 11 minutes ago. ’ir what we are seeing is landed. it landed 11 minutes ago. sr what we are seeing is a delay. that's an important point. we thought we were seeing it in real time. what they are counting down happened i! time. what they are counting down happened 11 minutes ago?- happened 11 minutes ago? exactly. when the lady _ happened 11 minutes ago? exactly. when the lady was _ happened 11 minutes ago? exactly. when the lady was saying - happened 11 minutes ago? exactly. when the lady was saying parish i happened 11 minutes ago? exactly. i when the lady was saying parish oats deployed _ when the lady was saying parish oats deployed 12 km, the parachute deployed 12 km, the parachute deployed 11 minutes ago. but she had 'ust deployed 11 minutes ago. but she had just got— deployed 11 minutes ago. but she had just got the signal back. so as she saying _ just got the signal back. so as she saying that — just got the signal back. so as she saying that perseverance was already on the _ saying that perseverance was already on the ground taking that photo. good _ on the ground taking that photo. good job— on the ground taking that photo. good job caddie and i are directing this. irate good 'ob caddie and i are directing this. ~ . , , this. we were even having problems understanding _ this. we were even having problems understanding that _ this. we were even having problems understanding that bit _ this. we were even having problems understanding that bit of— this. we were even having problems understanding that bit of it. - this. we were even having problems understanding that bit of it. so - this. we were even having problems understanding that bit of it. so all. understanding that bit of it. so all the chairs that we saw in the world erupting and they nasa control room erupted in, they were actually cheering something that had happened ii cheering something that had happened 11 minutes ago itjust had to get back via satellite. even that is correct. the fact that we are getting that information it's 205 million km and it's only taking 11 minutes to get the information back to us. :, minutes to get the information back to us. . , , . , to us. even that seems remarkable. the were to us. even that seems remarkable. they were chairing _ to us. even that seems remarkable. they were chairing a _ to us. even that seems remarkable. they were chairing a real _ to us. even that seems remarkable. they were chairing a real time. - to us. even that seems remarkable. they were chairing a real time. let. they were chairing a real time. let me reassure — they were chairing a real time. let me reassure you. something that happened — me reassure you. something that happened 11 minutes ago. that's the speed _ happened 11 minutes ago. that's the speed of— happened 11 minutes ago. that's the speed of which light travels. electromagnetic radiation travels. it's always going to be 11 minutes, that's— it's always going to be 11 minutes, that's not— it's always going to be 11 minutes, that's not true. where mars is now and the _ that's not true. where mars is now and the earth is its 11 minutes distance _ and the earth is its 11 minutes distance. sometimes it's further away— distance. sometimes it's further away and — distance. sometimes it's further away and naturally will take longer. so go _ away and naturally will take longer. so go outside now if you are somewhere dark and you will see the moona _ somewhere dark and you will see the nroona the _ somewhere dark and you will see the moon, the crescent moon and just about— moon, the crescent moon and just about the — moon, the crescent moon and just about the crescent moon there's a little _ about the crescent moon there's a little orange. and that's mars. and there _ little orange. and that's mars. and there is— little orange. and that's mars. and there is now perseverance rover sitting _ there is now perseverance rover sitting on— there is now perseverance rover sitting on their waiting for its next — sitting on their waiting for its next series of instructions to start firing _ next series of instructions to start firing out~ — next series of instructions to start firina out. . , next series of instructions to start firina out. . ~ . ~ firing out. remarkable. amazing. and perseverance — firing out. remarkable. amazing. and perseverance is _ firing out. remarkable. amazing. and perseverance is up _ firing out. remarkable. amazing. and perseverance is up on _ firing out. remarkable. amazing. and perseverance is up on that _ firing out. remarkable. amazing. and perseverance is up on that little - perseverance is up on that little green dotjust above. orange dot. orangeish red. thank you very much forjoining us and for clarifying that important point for us. let's bring in doctorjessica white. she is an associate professor at the notion that oceanography in southhampton. shejoins us in hampshire. we are going to be interviewing as with big smiles on theirfaces i'm sure. thank you interviewing as with big smiles on their faces i'm sure. thank you for joining us. you watched the landing. i know that you have been monitoring the jezero crater and i know that you have been monitoring thejezero crater and looking at places on earth that may emulate jezero crater. you've seen the very first image and i'll come back from mars from the rover. your reaction to what you've seen so far? i’m to what you've seen so far? i'm thrilled beyond words about the success — thrilled beyond words about the success and even more excited about the doors _ success and even more excited about the doors to — success and even more excited about the doors to open over the coming nronths. _ the doors to open over the coming months, years and decades. there are 23 cameras on — months, years and decades. there are 23 cameras on the _ months, years and decades. there are 23 cameras on the rover, _ months, years and decades. there are 23 cameras on the rover, we _ months, years and decades. there are 23 cameras on the rover, we seen - months, years and decades. there are 23 cameras on the rover, we seen one j 23 cameras on the rover, we seen one image so far. when do you expect to start seeing more images and when will they be of the jezero start seeing more images and when will they be of thejezero crater and start telling you something? well, those images should be coming in overnight, over the next few days _ in overnight, over the next few days the _ in overnight, over the next few days. the jezero crater has a series of instruments, sorry, perseverance has a _ of instruments, sorry, perseverance has a payload of instruments on it which _ has a payload of instruments on it which will— has a payload of instruments on it which will be imaging that and also -ive which will be imaging that and also give us _ which will be imaging that and also give us a _ which will be imaging that and also give us a sense of the type of mineralogy that it's going by. it has a _ mineralogy that it's going by. it has a laser— mineralogy that it's going by. it has a laser on it and a spectroscopy machine _ has a laser on it and a spectroscopy machine it— has a laser on it and a spectroscopy machine it so it will be able to feed _ machine it so it will be able to feed back— machine it so it will be able to feed back images about the type of mineralogy that it's coming in contact — mineralogy that it's coming in contact with in this ancient system. rebecca _ contact with in this ancient system. rebecca gave us a good explanation of where it's going to in this crater. somebody exciting to me, it's a little bit like the tide you get around the bath. as the water disappears as a rim around the crater. is that probably the richest area if you're looking for life? that's right. it's going tojezero crater — that's right. it's going tojezero crater we _ that's right. it's going tojezero crater. we heard the word crater and think— crater. we heard the word crater and think weiia _ crater. we heard the word crater and thinkweiia it— crater. we heard the word crater and think well, it mars is littered with craters~ _ think well, it mars is littered with craters. butjezero crater think well, it mars is littered with craters. but jezero crater is unique. — craters. but jezero crater is unique. it— craters. but jezero crater is unique. it tells us a narrative of the wet. — unique. it tells us a narrative of the wet, fluctuating nature of the past life — the wet, fluctuating nature of the past life of mars. it is more than 3.5 past life of mars. it is more than 55 billion— past life of mars. it is more than 3.5 billion years old and it has an inflow— 3.5 billion years old and it has an inflow and — 3.5 billion years old and it has an inflow and outflow. so we know that it fitted _ inflow and outflow. so we know that it filled up _ inflow and outflow. so we know that it filled up much like a bathtub and then spitt — it filled up much like a bathtub and then spilt over and it's on those shoreiines — then spilt over and it's on those shorelines or spilt over sections, those _ shorelines or spilt over sections, those take — shorelines or spilt over sections, those lake beds that are probably the areas — those lake beds that are probably the areas where we might be most iikeiy— the areas where we might be most likely to _ the areas where we might be most likely to see the preservation of past life — likely to see the preservation of past life. that's where the samples will be _ past life. that's where the samples will be collected from. so it past life. that's where the samples will be collected from.— will be collected from. so it drills down, will be collected from. so it drills down. take _ will be collected from. so it drills down, take these _ will be collected from. so it drills down, take these cores, - will be collected from. so it drills down, take these cores, puts - will be collected from. so it drills l down, take these cores, puts them will be collected from. so it drills - down, take these cores, puts them in a storage facility that will be catapulted out into space that we catch and bring home. what's the very best that we can expect from those cores that we then analyse? is it a sort of micro biotic organism that looks something like the earliest fossils on earth? exactly. it's those bacteria, _ earliest fossils on earth? exactly. it's those bacteria, those - it's those bacteria, those unicellular what we might think of his simpie — unicellular what we might think of his simple life but would actually drive _ his simple life but would actually drive the — his simple life but would actually drive the engines of chemical cycles on our— drive the engines of chemical cycles on our planet. it's that which we think— on our planet. it's that which we think that — on our planet. it's that which we think that there is a good likelihood that they are actually there — likelihood that they are actually there. we think of mars and my colleague — there. we think of mars and my colleague just mentioned the orange dot that's— colleague just mentioned the orange dot that's out there, we think of it as being _ dot that's out there, we think of it as being icy— dot that's out there, we think of it as being icy cold with reddish dust and dirt _ as being icy cold with reddish dust and dirt. that's on the surface of mars _ and dirt. that's on the surface of mars but— and dirt. that's on the surface of mars. but here we have a rover that actually— mars. but here we have a rover that actually has — mars. but here we have a rover that actually has capabilities of drilling down, penetrating below that service into actually grey rock~ — that service into actually grey rock. ~ :, �* ~' 3 rock. we don't think there's anything — rock. we don't think there's anything living _ rock. we don't think there's anything living on _ rock. we don't think there's anything living on today - rock. we don't think there's anything living on today or. rock. we don't think there's i anything living on today or do rock. we don't think there's - anything living on today or do we? were talking about past life. could it be that there is something still alive under the surface with all that radiation?— that radiation? that's quite unlikely but _ that radiation? that's quite unlikely but one _ that radiation? that's quite unlikely but one never - that radiation? that's quite i unlikely but one never knows. that radiation? that's quite - unlikely but one never knows. this is in the _ unlikely but one never knows. this is in the spirit of exploration and discovery — is in the spirit of exploration and discovery. it's much more likely that we — discovery. it's much more likely that we see evidence life in mars agent— that we see evidence life in mars agent has— that we see evidence life in mars agent has 3.5 billion years ago. something akin to what we see on earth _ something akin to what we see on earth. actually, what we know about mars we _ earth. actually, what we know about mars we know it has the building blocks _ mars we know it has the building blocks of— mars we know it has the building blocks of life, the scaffolding of life if— blocks of life, the scaffolding of life if you — blocks of life, the scaffolding of life if you will. we know there was water _ life if you will. we know there was water there. we see the features of those _ water there. we see the features of those inflows and outflows was that we know _ those inflows and outflows was that we know there's energy, a source of life and _ we know there's energy, a source of life and from — we know there's energy, a source of life and from the previous rover curiosity — life and from the previous rover curiosity we know there is carbon -based _ curiosity we know there is carbon —based compounds those are there too. —based compounds those are there too we _ —based compounds those are there too. we have all the raw materials for life _ too. we have all the raw materials for life as — too. we have all the raw materials for life as we know it. in fact, we are not— for life as we know it. in fact, we are not even— for life as we know it. in fact, we are not even played by two things that hamper us on life when we look for early— that hamper us on life when we look for early life on earth which is plate — for early life on earth which is plate tectonics and metamorphosis. metamorphism stop so the preservation potential on mars is actually— preservation potential on mars is actually greater than what it is on earth _ actually greater than what it is on earth. because we are not dealing with those — earth. because we are not dealing with those two things.— with those two things. thank you very much _ with those two things. thank you very much for— with those two things. thank you very much forjoining _ with those two things. thank you very much forjoining us. - with those two things. thank you | very much forjoining us. amazing day for nasa and for space exploration and for a scientist like yourself. thank you. we have another tweet by the way from perseverance. it is now its second tweet. just between you and me i don't think perseverance is tweeting. the text says. hello, world, my first look at my forever home. soto says. hello, world, my first look at my forever home. so to tweet so far. it has to have a twitter account, it has have a social media account. amazing. we have to wait ten years for the rocks to combat but it looks like we are gonna learn quite a lot just from these images were getting. yet. we are going to talk to a former astronaut who has been to the space station, a friend of the program. he will be with us later on to talk about it and what it might mean forfuture missions. stay to talk about it and what it might mean for future missions. stay with us for that. mean for future missions. stay with us for that-— mean for future missions. stay with us for that. : . ~ , ., us for that. amazing. a stunning row has blown pp — us for that. amazing. a stunning row has blown up between _ us for that. amazing. a stunning row has blown up between facebook - us for that. amazing. a stunning row has blown up between facebook and | has blown up between facebook and the australian government full time it's all to do with a proposed law that would force the big tech companies to pay broadcasters and publishers for content that they put on facebook platform. the publishers for content that they put on facebook platform.— publishers for content that they put on facebook platform. the law hasn't been passed — on facebook platform. the law hasn't been passed yet _ on facebook platform. the law hasn't been passed yet but _ on facebook platform. the law hasn't been passed yet but facebook- on facebook platform. the law hasn't been passed yet but facebook has i been passed yet but facebook has already taken drastic action. on thursday australians woke up to find that facebook pages of all local global news sites were suddenly unavailable. instead of getting news content users were greeted with this message. no post yet. and there it was collateral damage. because pages which provide weather, health and emergency services information were also blocked. although the social media company said that was a mistake and it is now working to rectify that problem. the australian prime minister _ rectify that problem. the australian prime minister has _ rectify that problem. the australian prime minister has responded - prime minister has responded furiously to facebooks behavior. and to the company that his government will not be intimidated from sydney. this is what australians woke up to. empty news feeds on their facebook pages after the platform blocked all local and international media outlets. a dramatic escalation in a continued dispute with the government overpaying for news content. the band did not only target news, it also denied australians access to the pages of many key government agencies. including health departments and the bureau of meteorology. the company later conceded that some of these pages were inadvertently caught in the block and that it will read store them. i the block and that it will read store them.— the block and that it will read store them. :, , store them. i do use facebook. it seems to be _ store them. i do use facebook. it seems to be a — store them. i do use facebook. it seems to be a catch _ store them. i do use facebook. it seems to be a catch all. - store them. i do use facebook. it seems to be a catch all. and - store them. i do use facebook. it seems to be a catch all. and i - store them. i do use facebook. itj seems to be a catch all. and i can get all of my news and one spot. 50 it will really impact me. thea;r get all of my news and one spot. so it will really impact me.— it will really impact me. they are so bia it will really impact me. they are so big and _ it will really impact me. they are so big and so _ it will really impact me. they are so big and so widely _ it will really impact me. they are so big and so widely used - it will really impact me. they are so big and so widely used by - so big and so widely used by australians that they'll, people willjust— australians that they'll, people willjust revolt against it. the government _ willjust revolt against it. the government was _ willjust revolt against it. t'i9 government was also willjust revolt against it. ti9 government was also swift to react. this is an assault on a sovereign nation. it is an assault on people's freedom and in particular it is in utter abuse of big technologies market power and control over technologies. the market power and control over technologies.— market power and control over technologies. the prime minister slammed the _ technologies. the prime minister slammed the social _ technologies. the prime minister slammed the social media - technologies. the prime minister - slammed the social media companies action as arrogant and disappointing. underthe action as arrogant and disappointing. under the proposed legislation tech giants will be forced to enter into payment negotiations with news outlets overpayment for content that appears on their platforms. if they can't agree a —— we get involved. but facebook has criticised the law saying it doesn't reflect how the internet works and unfairly penalises it for contact it didn't ask for. this followed is about facebook making a point was up many are watching this closely. and the social media giant knows that if it starts paying for news content here in australia other nations could make similar demands. some experts have described it as anti—democratic any genuine delight in a dangerous turn of events. and while facebook asserts its power and influence with this move the fear is that it may also do its reputation some serious damage. also do its reputation some serious damaae. : . :, damage. here in the uk the chair of the diaital damage. here in the uk the chair of the digital culture _ damage. here in the uk the chair of the digital culture media _ damage. here in the uk the chair of the digital culture media and - damage. here in the uk the chair of the digital culture media and sport i the digital culture media and sport select committee told the bbc that facebook is behaving in a staggeringly irresponsible way by blocking newsfeeds to users in australia during the pandemic. put it sim al australia during the pandemic. put it simply is across move it's a bullying — it simply is across move it's a bullying move. to have done this in the middle — bullying move. to have done this in the middle of a pandemic and also saying _ the middle of a pandemic and also saying it's — the middle of a pandemic and also saying it's a mistake to take inbound _ saying it's a mistake to take inbound links to charities and to information i think it's irresponsible. at a time when we are facing _ irresponsible. at a time when we are facing a _ irresponsible. at a time when we are facing a plethora of fake news and disinformation in relation to tackle the covid — disinformation in relation to tackle the covid vaccine. we disinformation in relation to tackle the covid vaccine.— disinformation in relation to tackle the covid vaccine. we are 'oined now with the international _ the covid vaccine. we are joined now with the international policy - with the international policy director of the stanford cyber policy centre and a former member of the european parliament for the dutch democratic party facet thanks for joining dutch democratic party facet thanks forjoining us. is this a power play by facebook showing australia just how much influence it has, how much power it has and how difficult it is to regulate the company? it is to regulate the company? it is absolutely _ to regulate the company? it is absolutely a — to regulate the company? it is absolutely a power _ to regulate the company? it is absolutely a power play. i served in european _ absolutely a power play. i served in european parliament for ten years and i've _ european parliament for ten years and i've seen a lot of lobbying. never— and i've seen a lot of lobbying. never something as in your face and as provocative as theirs. it says it's responding to the law but the law has— it's responding to the law but the law has not been enacted. i think we should _ law has not been enacted. i think we should consider it as a cynical last-ditch— should consider it as a cynical last—ditch lobbying effort to sort of shocked the australians. in my opinion, — of shocked the australians. in my opinion, notjust accidental opinion, not just accidental blocking _ opinion, notjust accidental blocking of pages to the police or health _ blocking of pages to the police or health care work two organisations, labour— health care work two organisations, labour unions, civil society was a mistake — labour unions, civil society was a mistake i— labour unions, civil society was a mistake. i think the whole move will turn out _ mistake. i think the whole move will turn out to— mistake. i think the whole move will turn out to be a big mistake.- turn out to be a big mistake. we've seen facebook _ turn out to be a big mistake. we've seen facebook executives - turn out to be a big mistake. we've seen facebook executives go - turn out to be a big mistake. 99 seen facebook executives go before congress repeatedly recently saying that they insist they are good global citizens. that they want to make sure that the reputation of the company is solid on issues like this. what does this suggest about facebook commitment to the rule of law and due process is? because there are countries where it's not obliging by local laws.— obliging by local laws. you're exactly right- _ obliging by local laws. you're exactly right. we've - obliging by local laws. you're exactly right. we've heard i obliging by local laws. you're - exactly right. we've heard facebook executive _ exactly right. we've heard facebook executive saying that they would like regulation, they were like democratic governments to clarify the rules— democratic governments to clarify the rules of the road. they said that they— the rules of the road. they said that they are in favour of freedom of fixed _ that they are in favour of freedom of fixed depression and more speech the better _ of fixed depression and more speech the better. they would prefer not to intervene _ the better. they would prefer not to intervene -- — the better. they would prefer not to intervene —— expression. other countries — intervene —— expression. other countries like vietnam or the philippines are many countries all over the _ philippines are many countries all over the world where there were restrictive — over the world where there were restrictive laws that in fact for not the — restrictive laws that in fact for not the company but the users and their human rights. and facebook let it happen, _ their human rights. and facebook let it happen, comply. and now it is really— it happen, comply. and now it is really extraordinary 30 democratic government legitimately elected, accountable to the people put forward — accountable to the people put forward a law and it's not so much about— forward a law and it's not so much about the — forward a law and it's not so much about the detail of the law but just the fact— about the detail of the law but just the fact that this is a democratically elected and accountable government. and facebook would take _ accountable government. and facebook would take such a provocative, hasty, — would take such a provocative, hasty, poorly executed move that really _ hasty, poorly executed move that really impacts peoples access to information. particularly young people — information. particularly young people really use facebook as a gateway — people really use facebook as a gateway towards news. and in a time when _ gateway towards news. and in a time when the _ gateway towards news. and in a time when the country is about to roll out a _ when the country is about to roll out a covid — when the country is about to roll out a covid vaccine, disinformation about— out a covid vaccine, disinformation about the — out a covid vaccine, disinformation about the pandemic is rampant onlinea — about the pandemic is rampant online, trustworthy news sources are really _ online, trustworthy news sources are really important. ijust think it's a kind _ really important. ijust think it's a kind of— really important. ijust think it's a kind of cynical lobbying that says a kind of cynical lobbying that says a lot about — a kind of cynical lobbying that says a lot about this company and its power— a lot about this company and its power and — a lot about this company and its power and its willingness to use it all over— power and its willingness to use it all over the — power and its willingness to use it all over the world.— power and its willingness to use it all over the world. indeed so. 36% of australians _ all over the world. indeed so. 3696 of australians get _ all over the world. indeed so. 3696 of australians get their _ all over the world. indeed so. 3696 of australians get their news - all over the world. indeed so. 3696 of australians get their news from | of australians get their news from facebook. the point is, facebook generates an awful lot of add money from the news that is on its website. it seems to be only fair that publishers and broadcasters who are producing that news at cost should get some take it from the advertising money and profit that facebook ads. it seems to me as well listening to the australian government that they are not going to back down. what sort of precedents is this going to set? other governments now going to follow the australian lead? there's a number of _ follow the australian lead? there's a number of initiatives _ follow the australian lead? there's a number of initiatives all - follow the australian lead? there's a number of initiatives all over- follow the australian lead? there's a number of initiatives all over the | a number of initiatives all over the world _ a number of initiatives all over the world that — a number of initiatives all over the world that are impacting this balance _ world that are impacting this balance of power between the publishers, free press and tech companies like facebook. for example the copyright in europe the digital service _ the copyright in europe the digital service acts goes in that direction. i service acts goes in that direction. i don't _ service acts goes in that direction. idon't think— service acts goes in that direction. i don't think it's as much a matter of following — i don't think it's as much a matter of following the australians not really _ of following the australians not really saying that all of the world in democratic countries there is a tendency— in democratic countries there is a tendency towards bigger checks and balances. _ tendency towards bigger checks and balances, having more accountability over these _ balances, having more accountability over these gatekeepers, these big tech companies. that are pulling towards — tech companies. that are pulling towards themselves more and more power— towards themselves more and more power over— towards themselves more and more power over our democratic debate, over a _ power over our democratic debate, over a public health, public safety in a way _ over a public health, public safety in a way that they choose to curate information — in a way that they choose to curate information. indeed a lot of people depend _ information. indeed a lot of people depend on — information. indeed a lot of people depend on these companies which are essentially— depend on these companies which are essentially advertising companies. and i_ essentially advertising companies. and i don't think that is really serving — and i don't think that is really serving the public and democratic debate _ serving the public and democratic debate the way that we should want to see _ debate the way that we should want to see it— debate the way that we should want to see it in— debate the way that we should want to see it in democracy.— to see it in democracy. thank you very much — to see it in democracy. thank you very much for— to see it in democracy. thank you very much forjoining _ to see it in democracy. thank you very much forjoining us. - to see it in democracy. thank you very much forjoining us. it - to see it in democracy. thank you very much forjoining us. it is - very much forjoining us. it is interesting. i said earlier that they don't abide by the rows i meet... meant they abide by laws but in some countries restricts freedom of speech and facebook trying to rehabilitate its image. i think... this law applies to go there as well. it has forced them into doing a deal with rupert murdoch. ideal they did not want to do for some years. now that they're faced with this law they have come to the table. it'sjust facebook this law they have come to the table. it's just facebook that are gone the other way. and dug their heels interest of it will be interesting to see what happens with that. i do feel quite strongly about this because when you look at not so much big broadcasters like the bbc but local television companies, local newspapers which are going to the wall. a lot of that news is out there on facebook. and they get no profit from what facebook is generating from the news that is out there. i do think there is an argument when we depend so much on local news and these news providers. that facebook does something to help them. :, that facebook does something to help them. . . , . , , them. yeah. the inadvertent perhaps consequence — them. yeah. the inadvertent perhaps consequence of— them. yeah. the inadvertent perhaps consequence of what _ them. yeah. the inadvertent perhaps consequence of what facebook - them. yeah. the inadvertent perhaps consequence of what facebook has i consequence of what facebook has done, walking away from those reputable news organisations is now you've got an explosion of miss information in exactly the time we don't need it. it's going to be interesting to see how they are government response to this and whether there is a public outcry. which is presumably being shared in place of the news that should be up there. that will be getting prominence and the other stuff is rejected is not there. you prominence and the other stuff is rejected is not there.— prominence and the other stuff is rejected is not there. you take away the spinach — rejected is not there. you take away the spinach people _ rejected is not there. you take away the spinach people can _ rejected is not there. you take away the spinach people can be _ rejected is not there. you take away the spinach people can be left - rejected is not there. you take away the spinach people can be left with l the spinach people can be left with a whole lot of ice cream that perhaps isn't good for them. 0k, six days on and counting. since a huge winter storm hit texas without millions of people down there is still without power. millions more have been told to boil their drinking water. if have been told to boil their drinking water.— have been told to boil their drinking water. have been told to boil their drinkina water. , :, . , drinking water. if you are with us last niaht drinking water. if you are with us last night we _ drinking water. if you are with us last night we feature _ drinking water. if you are with us last night we feature this - drinking water. if you are with us last night we feature this very i last night we feature this very heavily on the programme for separate is a once in a generation storm overwhelming the electricity supply in the united states largest energy producing state. supply in the united states largest energy producing state. people supply in the united states largest energy producing state. people are cranked up eating to try and keep their homes warm. there's now a growing political row over how the state has handled unseasonable weather. barbara has this report from texas. weather. barbara has this report from texas— weather. barbara has this report from texas. . , :, , . from texas. texans have experience with natural— from texas. texans have experience with natural disasters _ from texas. texans have experience with natural disasters like _ with natural disasters like hurricanes. but this is a whole new kind of misery. the coldest temperatures in a generation not the third of the states power grid off—line early in the week. people have been hunting for warmth wherever they can find it. inside the house _ wherever they can find it. inside the house it's _ wherever they can find it. inside the house it's almost _ wherever they can find it. inside the house it's almost like -2, i wherever they can find it. inside the house it's almost like -2, -1j the house it's almost like —2, —1 it's really cold inside. we stuck here i have nine miles left to go with my car. we have to find something that is within nine miles from here. the something that is within nine miles from here. , . ., something that is within nine miles from here. , . . from here. the icy weather and power outa a es from here. the icy weather and power outages have — from here. the icy weather and power outages have also _ from here. the icy weather and power outages have also affected _ from here. the icy weather and power outages have also affected water- outages have also affected water systems. millions of people have been told to boil their tap water which isn't always possible. hundreds of thousands of homes across the country have lost electricity but nowhere is it as bad as texas. it was a systemwide says the governor. 50 as texas. it was a systemwide says the governor-— the governor. so the fact is, every source of power _ the governor. so the fact is, every source of power in _ the governor. so the fact is, every source of power in the _ the governor. so the fact is, every source of power in the state - the governor. so the fact is, every source of power in the state of - source of power in the state of texas has access to has been compromised because of the ultracold temperature or because of equipment failures. in temperature or because of equipment failures. .: , :, temperature or because of equipment failures. .: , . ., failures. in fact the state did not want to prove — failures. in fact the state did not want to prove its _ failures. in fact the state did not want to prove its power - failures. in fact the state did not want to prove its power plants i failures. in fact the state did not. want to prove its power plants even though it was hit with a freaked freeze ten years ago. because that is expensive to do and it wasn't mandatory. texas doesn't share its power grid with nearby states to avoid federal regulations so it can't get emergency supplies. but this disaster has renewed debate about how global warming affects winter storms. and the need to adapt to changing weather. in the mid—oh eight middle of this chaos where is the texas senator ted cruz? is he banging on gates of power plants demanding answers, is he in food bank stick handing out food to desperate people?— bank stick handing out food to desperate people? know. he 'ust returned from �* desperate people? know. he 'ust returned from texas i desperate people? know. he 'ust returned from texas today i desperate people? know. hejust returned from texas today from i desperate people? know. hejust. returned from texas today from the holiday resort of cancun mexico where this afternoon it's a balmy 29 c. a heck of a lot warmer than texas. why was he there? well, millions of texans might well ask because just a few days ago he was telling them to stay at home. and last hours, here is the picture of him returning from his trip. i looked at that picture and that's the case look to me much bigger than the case look to me much bigger than the sort of sick as you would take if you are going on in overnight stay. if you are going on in overnight sta . : :, 9 . if you are going on in overnight sta .: :, m . stay. am i wrong? what was he thinkina , stay. am i wrong? what was he thinking. what _ stay. am i wrong? what was he thinking, what he _ stay. am i wrong? what was he thinking, what he thinking? - stay. am i wrong? what was he i thinking, what he thinking? what stay. am i wrong? what was he - thinking, what he thinking? what was he thinkina ? good evening. early morning rain cleared away, and for many it was a case of sunny spells and scattered showers. and because it's mild out there, this time of year that's allowing the spring bulbs to bloom. it was a beautiful afternoon in central london. for many as you could see on the satellite picture. a rash of sharp showers piling into the north and west, but we keep those clear skies over the next few hours, and that's going to allow those temperatures to fall away particularly in sheltered eastern areas. by contrast, we'll see the cloud gathering and rain arrives into the west, some of it quite heavy with strengthening winds as well. so, temperatures will climb as we go through the night. in sheltered eastern areas with clearer skies, we'll see low single figures, and that's going to be a little bit of a shock to the system in comparison to recent mornings. but it's all going to be about the rain and the wind first thing on friday, moving in from the west. in fact, wind gusts could be in excess of 55, 60 mph on exposed coasts. and some of that rain really heavy and persistent, and it will linger for much of the day with the heaviest bursts across west facing slopes and tops of higher ground as well. so, we're going to start to see rainfall totals starting to tot up before the day is through. sheltered eastern areas particularly through eastern england will stay largely dry and fine, maybe clouding over a little into the afternoon with temperatures peaking between eight and 11 degrees. so, that's friday. moving into the start of the weekend, we've got this nuisance weather front which is basically going to wriggle its way east and west throughout saturday and into sunday, feeding in moisture from time to time and still producing a lot of heavy rain, but still producing that southerly flow and that mild air right across the country. you'll notice the difference when you're outside over the next few days unless you're caught underneath this rain. going to be a bit of a nuisance over the next few days. it will tend to bring heavier rain perhaps into northern ireland and western scotland through saturday. but get some sunshine, you'll get some warmth, and favoured spots for that are going to be eastern england and south east england. moving out of saturday into sunday, that weather front is still with us, perhaps not quite as intense as it has been on sunday. on the whole, sunday should be a 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with tehran if that's what it takes to break the impasse. and, when you're this much of a legend, who needs a statue? dolly pardon asks her home state to halt plans to build a monument in her honour. this is bbc news. let's get back to our top story. the us' largest producer of energy, the state of texas, is still suffering from rolling power cuts, some six days after a huge snowstorm brought temperatures as low as zero degrees fahrenheit to the state. let's bring in one of 5 million of people —— let's bring in one of the millions of people who's still without power. patrick crowley is a professor of economics at corpus christi university , and hejoins us now from his home — on north padre island. is that rates, have i pronounce that right? where is that? :, �*, right? where is that? . �*, :, right? where is that? . �*, . where is that? that's a barrier island just _ where is that? that's a barrier island just off _ where is that? that's a barrier island just off the _ where is that? that's a barrier island just off the golf, - where is that? that's a barrier island just off the golf, just i where is that? that's a barrierj island just off the golf, just off of texas — island just off the golf, just off of texas. so it's actually in the golf _ of texas. so it's actually in the aolf. : : :, of texas. so it's actually in the rolf, : . ., , , , of texas. so it's actually in the rolf,: , ,y golf. and i can see by your will he have that you _ golf. and i can see by your will he have that you don't _ golf. and i can see by your will he have that you don't have - golf. and i can see by your will he have that you don't have much i golf. and i can see by your will he i have that you don't have much heat where you are. tell us what the situation is like.— situation is like. well, yes, i've been five _ situation is like. well, yes, i've been five days _ situation is like. well, yes, i've been five days now _ situation is like. well, yes, i've been five days now without - situation is like. well, yes, i've i been five days now without heat. situation is like. well, yes, i've - been five days now without heat. we have had _ been five days now without heat. we have had a _ been five days now without heat. we have had a couple of hours where the power _ have had a couple of hours where the power has _ have had a couple of hours where the power has come back on, but it's gone _ power has come back on, but it's gone off— power has come back on, but it's gone off again. i don't think that's part of— gone off again. i don't think that's part of the — gone off again. i don't think that's part of the rolling cuts. ijust think— part of the rolling cuts. ijust think that _ part of the rolling cuts. ijust think that the grid wasn't able to cope _ think that the grid wasn't able to cope with — think that the grid wasn't able to cope with the demand. you _ cope with the demand. you have a daughter who isjust under two years old. 50 this is really not easy, is it? we are seeing pictures of her at the moment. yeah, no, it's hard. it's very difficult _ yeah, no, it's hard. it's very difficult i_ yeah, no, it's hard. it's very difficult. i am lucky, yeah, no, it's hard. it's very difficult. iam lucky, i have yeah, no, it's hard. it's very difficult. i am lucky, i have a cast stove. _ difficult. i am lucky, i have a cast stove. so — difficult. i am lucky, i have a cast stove. so i — difficult. i am lucky, i have a cast stove, so i can cook things in heat things— stove, so i can cook things in heat things up. — stove, so i can cook things in heat things up, and it provides a little bit of— things up, and it provides a little bit of heat. — things up, and it provides a little bit of heat, but certainly, you know. — bit of heat, but certainly, you know. i'm _ bit of heat, but certainly, you know, i'm originally british, so i have _ know, i'm originally british, so i have some _ know, i'm originally british, so i have some of the clothing that you would _ have some of the clothing that you would have in this —— for these types — would have in this —— for these types of— would have in this —— for these types of temperatures for a toddler, so i types of temperatures for a toddler, so i am _ types of temperatures for a toddler, so i am lucky in that respect. many others _ so i am lucky in that respect. many others don't — so i am lucky in that respect. many others don't have that. just so i am lucky in that respect. many others don't have that.— others don't have that. just to ex . lain others don't have that. just to explain to _ others don't have that. just to explain to people, _ others don't have that. just to explain to people, i _ others don't have that. just to explain to people, i mean, i l others don't have that. just to - explain to people, i mean, i think of north padre island and i think of spring break and teenagers on the beach and surveying and water sports. i don't think of freezing cold temperatures, they think that gives you an indication ofjust how little suited houses there might be to god. we are hearing stories of people trying to heat their houses with propane gas, keeping the engines running in their cars. it's not safe what people are doing down there, but they have no other way in houses that are designed for heat, not warmth. that is true. you know, i mean, what choice _ that is true. you know, i mean, what choice have _ that is true. you know, i mean, what choice have you got when you don't want _ choice have you got when you don't want your— choice have you got when you don't want your kids to get frostbite or something like that. you know, the temperature is down here certainly on monday night were really very bad. on monday night were really very bad you — on monday night were really very bad. you know, very low. so we went down _ bad. you know, very low. so we went down to— bad. you know, very low. so we went down to about — bad. you know, very low. so we went down to about minus eight degrees centigrade. and then with wind chill, _ centigrade. and then with wind chill, we — centigrade. and then with wind chill, we went much further than that _ chill, we went much further than that we — chill, we went much further than that. we were looking at —18. with the wind—chill. find that. we were looking at -18. with the wind-chill.— the wind-chill. and what does the weather forecast _ the wind-chill. and what does the weather forecast bring _ the wind-chill. and what does the weather forecast bring for - the wind-chill. and what does the weather forecast bring for the - the wind-chill. and what does the | weather forecast bring for the next day or two?— day or two? well, tonight i think is aoain to day or two? well, tonight i think is going to be — day or two? well, tonight i think is going to be cold — day or two? well, tonight i think is going to be cold because _ day or two? well, tonight i think is going to be cold because the - day or two? well, tonight i think is going to be cold because the sun i day or two? well, tonight i think is l going to be cold because the sun has come _ going to be cold because the sun has come out _ going to be cold because the sun has come out again. sol going to be cold because the sun has come out again. so i think the temperatures are going to plummet once the _ temperatures are going to plummet once the clouds clear. so it doesn't look good — once the clouds clear. so it doesn't look good for tonight and may be friday— look good for tonight and may be friday night as well. and then things— friday night as well. and then things should start warming up, i believe — 0k, well, let's hope that they do, patrick. i heard they make it warmer over the weekend, so good luck to you and to your daughter and your family, of course. let's hope that soon you get some relief from this cold snap. patrick, thanks so much forjoining us. thank you, thank you very much. forjoining us. thank ou, thank ou ve much. , thank you, thank you very much. keep that woolly hat — thank you, thank you very much. keep that woolly hat on. _ the future of the iran nuclear deal hangs in the balance tonight — as washington and tehran enter a standoff over who makes the first move to return to the agreement. tehran has givenjoe biden's administration a deadline of one week to reverse the sanctions imposed by former president trump, while washington says it will only remove sanctions after iran returns to full compliance with the deal. today us secretary of state antony blinken met with the british, german, and french foreign ministers — where they agreed they were open to entering into direct talks with tehran. after the meeting in paris, uk foreign secretary dominic raab said he still hoped the deal would be revived. obviously, making that happen, particularly while iran is threatening further noncompliance in terms of iaeaea checks and the additional protocol is very worrying. all the more reason why we wanted to come together, reinvigorate, boost the diplomacy and chart a way forward, and we are absolutely agreed on the importance of iran complying with its obligations, but also, getting the us back into talks so that we can chart a proper sustainable route forward. one country is conspicuous in its absence from the talks. israel. its prime minister benjamin netanyahu has been a long time critic of the iran nuclear deal — and relations with the biden administration have been frosty. though mr biden and mr netanyahu did finally speak yesterday. mihal cotler is a member of the israeli knesset — and sits on its foreign and defense committee. shejoins us now. if there is going to be a resumption of the iran nuclear deal under the biden administration, what does it need to look like from israel's point of view? 50, we have to be really clear, this so, we have to be really clear, this is not _ so, we have to be really clear, this is notjust— so, we have to be really clear, this is notjust about israel, of course, iran is notjust about israel, of course, iran poses — is notjust about israel, of course, iran poses a — is notjust about israel, of course, iran poses a threat to the entire world _ iran poses a threat to the entire world in— iran poses a threat to the entire world in terms of its support of terror, — world in terms of its support of terror, in — world in terms of its support of terror, in terms of the human rights violations— terror, in terms of the human rights violations in— terror, in terms of the human rights violations in iran itself. so that when _ violations in iran itself. so that when we — violations in iran itself. so that when we speak about the possibility of reentering come i would actually prefer _ of reentering come i would actually prefer that we address the fact that time has _ prefer that we address the fact that time has passed, we are not in 2015. we are _ time has passed, we are not in 2015. we are in— time has passed, we are not in 2015. we are in 2020. we have seen the noncompliance. we have seen where that can _ noncompliance. we have seen where that can lead us. and we have seen that can lead us. and we have seen that a _ that can lead us. and we have seen that a very— that can lead us. and we have seen that a very very limited scope of agreement that focused singularly on the nuclear issue where the ballistic— the nuclear issue where the ballistic missile programmes continue to evolve. where human rights _ continue to evolve. where human rights violations of women, of journalists, where we see the support, _ journalists, where we see the support, direct support of iran in terror— support, direct support of iran in terror all— support, direct support of iran in terror all over the world. those all have _ terror all over the world. those all have to _ terror all over the world. those all have to be — terror all over the world. those all have to be addressed and redressed in any— have to be addressed and redressed in any current or future negotiations with iran. i would expect— negotiations with iran. i would expect all international parties, including — expect all international parties, including all trustees of human rights — including all trustees of human rights and international law to engage — rights and international law to engage in all of those issues as we look forward into, you know, a prospect— look forward into, you know, a prospect of a deal. it look forward into, you know, a prospect of a deal.— look forward into, you know, a prospect of a deal. it can't have been a coincidence _ prospect of a deal. it can't have been a coincidence that - prospect of a deal. it can't have been a coincidence that joe - prospect of a deal. it can't have i been a coincidence that joe biden been a coincidence thatjoe biden finally spoke to him yesterday ahead of this meeting in paris. have you had any feel as to what the american said to him and what do you think he might have said needs to be in any resumption of the deal? i might have said needs to be in any resumption of the deal?— might have said needs to be in any resumption of the deal? i think it's very important _ resumption of the deal? i think it's very important that _ resumption of the deal? i think it's very important that we _ resumption of the deal? i think it's very important that we know - resumption of the deal? i think it's very important that we know that i resumption of the deal? i think it's i very important that we know that the bipartisan _ very important that we know that the bipartisan relationship between the united _ bipartisan relationship between the united states and israel transcends any one _ united states and israel transcends any one person or you know, specific prime _ any one person or you know, specific prime minister or president, despite the relationship, of course, it's based — the relationship, of course, it's based on — the relationship, of course, it's based on shared values and commitments and interests. some of which _ commitments and interests. some of which i _ commitments and interests. some of which i refer— commitments and interests. some of which i refer to whether they need international law or human rights, whether— international law or human rights, whether they be the shared interest of the _ whether they be the shared interest of the common understanding that we have to _ of the common understanding that we have to ensure the security of all of israel's — have to ensure the security of all of israel's substance, for as the security— of israel's substance, for as the security of— of israel's substance, for as the security of all united states citizens. _ security of all united states citizens, and whatever the conversation held, which, of course, i'm conversation held, which, of course, i'm not— conversation held, which, of course, i'm not privy— conversation held, which, of course, i'm not privy to, whatever the conversation held, i am certain that it reaffirmed that bipartisan relationship, it strengthened. let�*s relationship, it strengthened. let's talk specifics- _ relationship, it strengthened. let's talk specifics. is _ relationship, it strengthened. let's talk specifics. is there _ relationship, it strengthened. let's talk specifics. is there a _ relationship, it strengthened. ii_9:ri'3 talk specifics. is there a need relationship, it strengthened. ii_9�*ri'3 talk specifics. is there a need to get to grips with the ballistic mitchell issue? because they are pointing first and foremost at israel. of course. we have to be very clear. looka _ of course. we have to be very clear. look, there — of course. we have to be very clear. look, there is — of course. we have to be very clear. look, there is no country in the world _ look, there is no country in the world that _ look, there is no country in the world that would allow another country — world that would allow another country to call for its destruction for genocide of its people. you know. — for genocide of its people. you know. sit— for genocide of its people. you know, sit by quietly and not demand that not— know, sit by quietly and not demand that not only would that be addressed by it self, but by all of its allies. — addressed by it self, but by all of its allies, the united states, and as i its allies, the united states, and as i said. — its allies, the united states, and as i said, all of its allies including all of those committed to international law, to human rights. ithink— international law, to human rights. i think we — international law, to human rights. i think we would be remiss if we didn't— i think we would be remiss if we didn't mention, that as i said, we are not— didn't mention, that as i said, we are not in— didn't mention, that as i said, we are not in 2015, we are in 2021, and if we— are not in 2015, we are in 2021, and if we did— are not in 2015, we are in 2021, and if we did not— are not in 2015, we are in 2021, and if we did not mention the abraham accord _ if we did not mention the abraham accord in _ if we did not mention the abraham accord in that, because we have to acknowledge the tremendous paradigm shift, the _ acknowledge the tremendous paradigm shift, the pivot away from rejection and some _ shift, the pivot away from rejection and some come into normalisation that actually was enabled by what i call the _ that actually was enabled by what i call the pivot away from the three nose _ call the pivot away from the three nose of _ call the pivot away from the three nose of her— call the pivot away from the three nose of her tomb, no to recognition from _ nose of her tomb, no to recognition from in _ nose of her tomb, no to recognition from in or— nose of her tomb, no to recognition from in or to — nose of her tomb, no to recognition from in or to recognition from an 02 piece _ from in or to recognition from an 02 piece to— from in or to recognition from an 02 piece to israel to three yeses, yes to recognition from es to negotiation and yes to peace, and that order— negotiation and yes to peace, and that order is very important. the recognition — that order is very important. the recognition of the right of the state — recognition of the right of the state of— recognition of the right of the state of israel to exist as what it is, jewish— state of israel to exist as what it is, jewish and democratic. it is something _ is, jewish and democratic. it is something that has led the abraham records _ something that has led the abraham records and more countries to join whether— records and more countries to join whether it — records and more countries to join whether it be the uae, morocco and beyond. _ whether it be the uae, morocco and beyond, and it also paves the path forward _ beyond, and it also paves the path forward for— beyond, and it also paves the path forward for any peoples, and he countries — forward for any peoples, and he countries in the region and beyond that are _ countries in the region and beyond that are indeed not on the accepting of israel's _ that are indeed not on the accepting of israel's right to exist, but acknowledging that you need to recognise the other's rate in order to be _ recognise the other's rate in order to be able — recognise the other's rate in order to be able to negotiate and pave the past forward to peace. includes everybody. past forward to peace. includes everybody-— past forward to peace. includes eve bod . . :, everybody. ok, so given all of fact, are ou everybody. ok, so given all of fact, are you concerned _ everybody. ok, so given all of fact, are you concerned that _ everybody. ok, so given all of fact, are you concerned that some - everybody. ok, so given all of fact, are you concerned that some of - everybody. ok, so given all of fact, are you concerned that some of the people who are now in the biden administration, the secretary state is one of them, jake sullivan the national security adviser is another, they are the people who were involved in the original iran nuclear deal. we know that they were disappointed when president trampled out of it. are you concerned that they might concede too much in order to get a new deal back on the table? i am certain that we have to engage in discussion from the place and time _ in discussion from the place and time that— in discussion from the place and time that we are in. i'm certain that— time that we are in. i'm certain that we— time that we are in. i'm certain that we cannot go back to 2015 and assume _ that we cannot go back to 2015 and assume that everything continues as wherever— assume that everything continues as wherever and whenever do you know, personal— wherever and whenever do you know, personal views anybody would've held _ personal views anybody would've held and — personal views anybody would've held. and i'm certain that because of the _ held. and i'm certain that because of the very— held. and i'm certain that because of the very important bipartisan relationship between the united states— relationship between the united states and israel, but as i said, because — states and israel, but as i said, because i— states and israel, but as i said, because i believe that we have to engage _ because i believe that we have to engage with all trustees of international law and human rights around _ international law and human rights around the — international law and human rights around the world, we have to engage in this— around the world, we have to engage in this discussion in 2021, not looking — in this discussion in 2021, not looking back, but looking forward. for the _ looking back, but looking forward. for the people of iran to actually receive _ for the people of iran to actually receive and deserve the protection of international law, of human rights, — of international law, of human rights, the commitment of all nations— rights, the commitment of all nations to their rights. the very terror— nations to their rights. the very terror regime that is holding them captive. _ terror regime that is holding them captive, holding them hostage has to be held _ captive, holding them hostage has to be held to _ captive, holding them hostage has to be held to account by the entire world _ be held to account by the entire world community. of course, including _ world community. of course, including the new administration in the united — including the new administration in the united states. gk, including the new administration in the united states.— the united states. ok, thank you very much _ the united states. ok, thank you very much for— the united states. ok, thank you very much forjoining _ the united states. ok, thank you very much forjoining us - the united states. ok, thank you very much forjoining us there. i very much forjoining us there. thank you. one could argue the attempts at gun control here in america fit einstein's definition of insanity: that is, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. because despite all of the shootings over the years — including 5,000 gun—related deaths since just the start of 2021 — not much has changed. in fact, gun sales continue to rise. as you can see from this chart, sales have more than doubled in the last 20 years. 17 million guns were sold last year alone. this week as president biden marked the third anniversary of the parkland school massacre in florida he called for stricter gun legislation. he wants background checks on all gun sales, a ban on assault weapons and high capacity magazines, and he would like to get rid of immunity for gun manufacturers. let's bring in shannon watts, she is the founder of moms demand action — a national grassroots movement that fights for public safety measures to protect people from gun violence. she is speaking to the administrationjust she is speaking to the administration just last week. thank you for being with us, shannon. i read today that it's been 25 years since the federal government passed a gun safety reform bill. 50 since the federal government passed a gun safety reform bill. so why would they do it now?— a gun safety reform bill. so why would they do it now? well, you know, would they do it now? well, you know. we _ would they do it now? well, you know, we have _ would they do it now? well, you know, we have had _ would they do it now? well, you know, we have had years - would they do it now? well, you know, we have had years and i would they do it now? well, you i know, we have had years and years would they do it now? well, you - know, we have had years and years of either _ know, we have had years and years of either a _ know, we have had years and years of either a democratic president and republican congress or vice versa, and the _ republican congress or vice versa, and the last— republican congress or vice versa, and the last four years with donald trump, _ and the last four years with donald trump, we — and the last four years with donald trump, we had both. and so that's helped _ trump, we had both. and so that's helped keep the gun lobby in power in many— helped keep the gun lobby in power in many ways. gun lobbies in america have been— in many ways. gun lobbies in america have been writing our gun laws now for years _ have been writing our gun laws now for years. and as a result, we have a 25 times — for years. and as a result, we have a 25 times higher gun homicide rate than any— a 25 times higher gun homicide rate than any other high income country. and we _ than any other high income country. and we saw— than any other high income country. and we saw voters go to the polls on this issue _ and we saw voters go to the polls on this issue in — and we saw voters go to the polls on this issue in the strong numbers. they— this issue in the strong numbers. they support gun safety laws like a background check on every gun sale. we know _ background check on every gun sale. we know about 93% of americans support _ we know about 93% of americans support that. finally, we have a gun sense _ support that. finally, we have a gun sense trifecta. we have a president who supports those and both chambers of congress _ who supports those and both chambers of congress. so we are very hopeful that we _ of congress. so we are very hopeful that we are — of congress. so we are very hopeful that we are on the precipice of major— that we are on the precipice of major national change. | that we are on the precipice of major national change. i talked to katie about _ major national change. i talked to katie about this _ major national change. i talked to katie about this a _ major national change. i talked to katie about this a lot _ major national change. i talked to katie about this a lot because - katie about this a lot because sitting this side of the atlantic, the figures are truly astonishing and awful. and she always puts me right and she says i remember sandy hook and i remember the death of 20 infant children and the outpouring of grief that there was in the country for that appalling events, and still, the obama administration withjoe biden in it didn't come up withjoe biden in it didn't come up with any reform. 50, so much as changed, right? in so, so much as changed, right? in the last— so, so much as changed, right? in the last eight years since i've been doing _ the last eight years since i've been doing this — the last eight years since i've been doing this. if you go back to 2010, about— doing this. if you go back to 2010, about 25%— doing this. if you go back to 2010, about 25% of all members of congress that were _ about 25% of all members of congress that were democrats had from the nra _ that were democrats had from the nra, today, nandu. that worked to build the _ nra, today, nandu. that worked to build the grassroots army that we have through mums demand action and students _ have through mums demand action and students demand action. it took years. _ students demand action. it took years. and — students demand action. it took years, and we started to see major change _ years, and we started to see major change for— years, and we started to see major change. for example, we flipped the house _ change. for example, we flipped the house in _ change. for example, we flipped the house in 2018. we step to connect flipped — house in 2018. we step to connect flipped the state of virginia in 2019. — flipped the state of virginia in 2019, and then georgia in 2021. so we have _ 2019, and then georgia in 2021. so we have made significant progress. look _ we have made significant progress. look we _ we have made significant progress. look. we are waiting in america for this cathartic moment in congress that i_ this cathartic moment in congress that i believe is going to calm, but we haven't— that i believe is going to calm, but we haven't been standing on the sidelines — we haven't been standing on the sidelines. we have passed background checks— sidelines. we have passed background checks and _ sidelines. we have passed background checks and 22 states, something called _ checks and 22 states, something called a — checks and 22 states, something called a red flag law in 19 states, in 28 _ called a red flag law in 19 states, in 28 states, we've dismount —— disarm — in 28 states, we've dismount —— disarm domestic abusers. in many corporations have gotten on board. so, corporations have gotten on board. so. this— corporations have gotten on board. so, this change is unfortunately slowa _ so, this change is unfortunately slow, but— so, this change is unfortunately slow, but it is steady. look, i really— slow, but it is steady. look, i really do _ slow, but it is steady. look, i really do believe that we are about to come _ really do believe that we are about to come in— really do believe that we are about to come in through the biden administration, have major national change~ _ administration, have ma'or national chanae. ,, :, :, , ~' :, , , change. shannon, nobody knows this more than joe _ change. shannon, nobody knows this more than joe biden. _ change. shannon, nobody knows this more than joe biden. he _ change. shannon, nobody knows this more than joe biden. he was - change. shannon, nobody knows this more than joe biden. he was the - more thanjoe biden. he was the person designated by president obama after sandy hook to come up with a plan to try and do the deal with congress. he didn't manage to do it. is there something in the nra's standing, is there something in the public attitude to the gun lobby that makes you more confident that we could have it on a federal level this time? has anything changed there? ~ . this time? has anything changed there? ~ :, . this time? has anything changed there? . . , . : there? well, we have a democratic senate and — there? well, we have a democratic senate and house. _ there? well, we have a democratic senate and house. so _ there? well, we have a democratic senate and house. so that's - there? well, we have a democratic senate and house. so that's a - there? well, we have a democratic senate and house. so that's a big i senate and house. so that's a big change _ senate and house. so that's a big change along with a democratic president. the other thing is, as i mentioned — president. the other thing is, as i mentioned the makeup of congress, those _ mentioned the makeup of congress, those lawmakers who used to be beholden — those lawmakers who used to be beholden to the nra no longer are. the gun— beholden to the nra no longer are. the gun lobby which used to be one of the _ the gun lobby which used to be one of the most — the gun lobby which used to be one of the most powerful wealthy special interests _ of the most powerful wealthy special interests that existed is no longer that kind — interests that existed is no longer that kind of power broker in this country — that kind of power broker in this country. they are under investigation, they are bankrupt morally— investigation, they are bankrupt morally and financially. and we are stronger— morally and financially. and we are stronger than we have ever been, and they are _ stronger than we have ever been, and they are weaker than they have ever been _ they are weaker than they have ever been so— they are weaker than they have ever been. so this is the moment for president — been. so this is the moment for president biden to take action through— president biden to take action through executive actions which he can make — through executive actions which he can make significant change that way, _ can make significant change that way, but — can make significant change that way, but also for congress to put forward _ way, but also for congress to put forward gun safety legislation that would _ forward gun safety legislation that would require a background check on every— would require a background check on every gun— would require a background check on every gun sale. we are very confident— every gun sale. we are very confident we will see that soon. gk, confident we will see that soon. ok, shannon watts. _ confident we will see that soon. ok shannon watts, founders of confident we will see that soon. (zjk shannon watts, founders of mums demand action, thanks so much for joining us. demand action, thanks so much for 'oinina us. :, ~ demand action, thanks so much for 'oinina us. . ,, i. ido i do think, christian that last point — i do think, christian that last point there, if there is going to be change, if there — there is going to be change, if there is— there is going to be change, if there is something different, it is that the _ there is something different, it is that the nra has been beset by scandals — that the nra has been beset by scandals and its leadership, and that it's — scandals and its leadership, and that it's bankrupt at the moment and that it's bankrupt at the momen that makes it that it's bankrupt at the moment err. that makes it harder for a dozen that makes it harderfor a dozen organisation to perhaps rally against what opinion polls suggest is an american public who wants some more gun control. that would make very sensible gun legislation. yes. very sensible gun legislation. yes, one to watch- _ very sensible gun legislation. yes, one to watch. it _ very sensible gun legislation. yes, one to watch. it always _ very sensible gun legislation. 193 one to watch. it always staggers people over here.— one to watch. it always staggers people over here. let's see, stay with us. people over here. let's see, stay with us- it's _ people over here. let's see, stay with us. it's easy _ people over here. let's see, stay with us. it's easy to _ people over here. let's see, stay with us. it's easy to be _ people over here. let's see, stay with us. it's easy to be cynical. people over here. let's see, stay with us. it's easy to be cynical on this one. we will have more on the programme. nasa's mission control erupts with joy as the perseverance rover lands safely on mars. we'll be talking to a vetera n a veteran of successful nasa missions in the past. sir keir starmer has set out his vision for the uk — pledging a "moral crusade" to address inequalities exposed by coronavirus. the labour leader also proposed a new bond for savers— allowing millions to invest in the uk's recovery from the pandemic. our deputy political editor vicki young reports he's trying to inspire a party that's got used to being rejected by voters in a political landscape dominated by a pandemic. labour members can only watch from a distance as sir kier starmer lays out his vision from an empty room. we can go back to the same insecure and unequal economy that's been so truly exposed by the virus, or we can seize the moment. he said coronavirus had proved the case for government to play a much bigger role in managing the economy, but working alongside business, not attacking it. if we are honest, for too long, labour has failed to realise that the only way to deliver social justice and equality is through a strong partnership with businesses. under my leadership, that mindset will change. one new policy idea is a british recovery bond, offering people a savings account with the government — the cash raised will be used to help get the country back on its feet after the pandemic. so what the bond does is to provide a way for people to invest in the future of their country in a secure way, and then obviously releases money for infrastructure projects. obviously, for those who haven't who have been able to save and etc, there are other things i said this morning about universal credit, about the pay for key workers, so it's not either/or, it's both. kier starmer says a labour government would actively support the economy, but conservatives point out they've just spent almost £300 billion doing just that. it shows how difficult it is being distinctive as opposition leader during a national emergency. elections across the uk in may will be the first test of whether voters like what they've heard so far. vicki young, bbc news, westminster. christian, i know you think of every show we do as a testament to your legacy, but consider this amazing act of humility: dolly parton has asked the state of tennessee to stop plans for a statue in her honour. in a statement, the country music superstar said though she held out the possibility of a statue some day down the road. class act. i love dolly parton. i watched a documentary and dolly parton. she is such a pro. she turned on the medal of freedom, not because she didn't like donald trump, but because she felt it was going to take her into the roma politics at a time when she didn't want to be there. so she turned it down, now she's turned down a statue. and i think i'm you know, she's probably right, she doesn't need a statue. we all know how great dolly parton is, don't we? simple as that. how great dolly parton is, don't we? simple as that-— simple as that. yes, yes. 9-to-5, alwa s simple as that. yes, yes. 9-to-5, always brilliant. _ 0k, ok, let's go back from tennessee and humility to our main story. the successful landing of nasa's perseverance rover on mars. we are joined by doctor leroy, former astronaut and commander of international space station. he joins us now from texas. doctor, thank you so much forjoining us. exciting day. thank you so much for 'oining us. exciting amt thank you so much for 'oining us. exciting day-t exciting day. absolutely. this is 'ust a exciting day. absolutely. this is just a huge _ exciting day. absolutely. this is just a huge event. _ exciting day. absolutely. this is just a huge event. as _ exciting day. absolutely. this is just a huge event. as you - exciting day. absolutely. this is i just a huge event. as you probably know _ just a huge event. as you probably know. less — just a huge event. as you probably know, less than 50% of attempted soft landing on mars has been successful to the state and this is the most — successful to the state and this is the most complicated and difficult landing _ the most complicated and difficult landing ever attempted, and everyone is overjoyed that it was successful. this is— is overjoyed that it was successful. this is a _ is overjoyed that it was successful. this is a rover that is bigger, heavier, more complicated than anything nasa has sent to mars before. do you think this is going to be the rover that finally brings us back everett —— brings back evidence of life on mars? us back everett -- brings back evidence of life on mars? that's what it's designed _ evidence of life on mars? that's what it's designed for. - evidence of life on mars? that's what it's designed for. this - evidence of life on mars? that's. what it's designed for. this rover is bigger— what it's designed for. this rover is bigger than the curiosity rover that landed several years ago and it's about — that landed several years ago and it's about the size of may be an suv vehicle. _ it's about the size of may be an suv vehicle. its— it's about the size of may be an suv vehicle, its heaviest, it landed in the same — vehicle, its heaviest, it landed in the same manner but was much heavier, — the same manner but was much heavier, much bigger, it's got a most _ heavier, much bigger, it's got a most advanced scientific instruments on board _ most advanced scientific instruments on board designed specifically to look for— on board designed specifically to look for chemical signatures of evidence — look for chemical signatures of evidence of past bioactivity that is living _ evidence of past bioactivity that is living organisms producing organic molecules— living organisms producing organic molecules that got trapped in these carbonate _ molecules that got trapped in these carbonate structures along the rim of this— carbonate structures along the rim of this giant crater that used to be a big _ of this giant crater that used to be a big lake — of this giant crater that used to be a big lake. it�*s of this giant crater that used to be abir lake. 3 . . of this giant crater that used to be a bir lake. �*, . . :, of this giant crater that used to be a bit lake. �*, . . :, . a big lake. it's amazing to me that there might _ a big lake. it's amazing to me that there might be — a big lake. it's amazing to me that there might be a _ a big lake. it's amazing to me that there might be a little _ a big lake. it's amazing to me that there might be a little boy - a big lake. it's amazing to me that there might be a little boy or - there might be a little boy or little girl sitting out there who wants to be — little girl sitting out there who wants to be an _ little girl sitting out there "nigh wants to be an astronaut, who might be the first astronaut to set foot on this planet, and this is the early advanced part of that mission, isn't it? absolutely. i mean, paving the way, we have _ absolutely. i mean, paving the way, we have always sent you know, unmanned _ we have always sent you know, unmanned probes for us to check out the environment to see what we don't know _ the environment to see what we don't know. try— the environment to see what we don't know. try to— the environment to see what we don't know, try to understand more about it, know, try to understand more about it. but— know, try to understand more about it. but in— know, try to understand more about it. but in this— know, try to understand more about it, but in this case, we are actually— it, but in this case, we are actually really doing some no kidding — actually really doing some no kidding exploration of looking for these _ kidding exploration of looking for these signatures of past life, perhaps— these signatures of past life, perhaps 4 billion so years ago, it's very exciting, just thinking about the social— very exciting, just thinking about the social impact if we find some very strong evidence that these organic— very strong evidence that these organic molecules are there and they were perhaps created by some kind of past microbial life or something like that — past microbial life or something like that. . , :, past microbial life or something like that. :, , :, , past microbial life or something like that. :, , . like that. can you tell us about the helico tter like that. can you tell us about the helicopter as _ like that. can you tell us about the helicopter as well _ like that. can you tell us about the helicopter as well that's _ like that. can you tell us about the helicopter as well that's on - like that. can you tell us about the helicopter as well that's on board? yes, that's another first. helicopter as well that's on board? yes, that's anotherfirst. we have yes, that's another first. we have never. _ yes, that's another first. we have never. we — yes, that's another first. we have never, we have never attempted flight _ never, we have never attempted flight in — never, we have never attempted flight in an— never, we have never attempted flight in an atmosphere of another planet. _ flight in an atmosphere of another planet, and so this helicopter looks like a _ planet, and so this helicopter looks like a drone — planet, and so this helicopter looks like a drone and i'm looking forward to its— like a drone and i'm looking forward to its flight — like a drone and i'm looking forward to its flight test, you know, it's going _ to its flight test, you know, it's going to — to its flight test, you know, it's going to take off and send back images — going to take off and send back images and video and it's going to be really— images and video and it's going to be really spectacular and i'm keeping _ be really spectacular and i'm keeping my fingers crossed it's going _ keeping my fingers crossed it's going to — keeping my fingers crossed it's going to work. things on the rover there _ going to work. things on the rover there are — going to work. things on the rover there are microphones, so we can record _ there are microphones, so we can record and — there are microphones, so we can record and send back what the martian— record and send back what the martian landscape sounds like, the sounds _ martian landscape sounds like, the sounds of— martian landscape sounds like, the sounds of mars, if you will. so very exciting _ sounds of mars, if you will. so very exciting mission. leroy. _ exciting mission. leroy, always great to talk to. think very much for giving us your thoughts on what is really exciting day for nasa. just before we go, it does appear that life has been found on mars.— been found on mars. laughing there is ted _ been found on mars. laughing there is ted cruz. _ been found on mars. laughing there is ted cruz. wasn't - been found on mars. laughing there is ted cruz. wasn't the i been found on mars. laughing - there is ted cruz. wasn't the intent of the last time we saw him? anyway, might be cold there. i bet anyway, might be cold there. i bet he's orirn anyway, might be cold there. i bet he's going to _ anyway, might be cold there. i bet he's going to bump _ anyway, might be cold there. i bet he's going to bump into bernie sanders with his mittens, what do you think? i can see that going around the internet. it's going to have a field day! hello there. if you've been keeping a close eye on the weather for the week ahead this week, it's been a fairly consistent message. it's been unsettled but milder. now, thursday saw heavy rain clearing to sunny spells and scattered showers, but i suspect as we head towards the weekend, it gets a little more unsettled. yes, it's going to stay mild, but the winds are really going to pick up, gale force gusts at times, and it's going to be some heavy persistent rain for some but not for all. and one of the reasons is there is a fairly amplified jet stream at the moment. it's the jet stream that's responsible for directing areas of low pressure across the uk, and you can see that there is one heading towards us for friday. it's going to bring gale force will gusts of winds and spell a very wet weather along west facing coasts throughout the day on friday. now, always out to the east from it will be largely dry, particularly for much of eastern england, you may escape the rain altogether. but the winds gusting in excess of 55 mph on exposed posts and some of that rain fairly relentless, so rainfall totals are certainly going to start to tot up. so temperature should pick between 9—11 celsius. so that's certainly an improvement on this time last week. as we move towards the weekend, we have still got the feed of very moist air, that's going to be driving in that weather front that's going to continue to bring some erratic spells of wet weather out to the west, and so some of those totals are really going to start to tot up as we see that intense weather, particularly across higher ground. eastern parts of the uk, particularly the southeast will be dry and sunny, and as a consequence, warm with 16 celsisus. now, this is the rainfall accumulations. you can see there's going to be very little over the next few days in the southeast, but out to the west, we are going to see accumulations of 80—100 milimetres plus, and that is enough unsaturated grounds potentially to cause some localised flooding. so we will keep a close eye on that. there is some potential on sunday for that weather front to weaken somewhat and the rain eased a little. it's also the dividing line between this very warm air coming up from the south. so, potentially on sunday, particularly across eastern england in southeast england, it will stay mild, sunny and warm. we could see temperatures up as high as 16—17 celsius, that's 63 fahrenheit. so that's the story on sunday, then, as you can see, better day, a quieter day with that rain easing down. now, as we move out of sunday into monday, we will see a brief ridge of high pressure building for a time which will continue to quiet things down quite nicely. so there will be the potential for a little bit of rent light rain so there will be the potential for a little bit of light rain to ease away from a nuisance weather front that we have seen over the weekend. but once that does so, monday should potentially be a quiet day, still with that southerly feed and those temperatures should peak between 9—13 celsius. now, as we move out of monday, what is in store further ahead? well, we have got this area of the pressure that sitting up into the northwest, and that's could, again, bring some wet and windy weather. but watch this, high pressure will build as we go into next week. so quieting things down. so there is the chance, particularly up to the far northwest that we will see something a little more unsettled to begin with before this area of high pressure continues to quiet things down. and we look further ahead to the city forecast. you can see that it may be starting off wet on tuesday but dry settled and pleasant for many as we go through the week. so, if you haven't already got the message, yes, potentially next week, wet and windy to begin with, but easing down, drying up, but staying mild for all of us. tonight at ten — nasa's most ambitious mission to mars hasjust landed successfully on the red planet. confirmed. perserverance is safely on the surface of mars... this was the moment when the rover, called perseverance, finally made it, despite all the odds, on a mission to seek out signs of ancient life. to work through all the adversity that goes, and all the challenges that go with landing a rover on mars, plus the challenges of covid — and just an amazing accomplishment. and this, the first image beamed back by the rover — its shadow clearly visible — as it tweets "i'm safe on mars. "perseverance will get you anywhere." we'll have the latest from nasa. also tonight... facebook unfriends australia — the social networking giant blocks access to news media on its site, in a row over paying for content.

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