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Today that this is bbc news with me, rebecca jones. In a crucial day of campaigning, Boris Johnson warns voters of a Hung Parliament if they dont support the conservatives. We can do it, you can do it, you can do it with your votes, with your support, we can end the gridlock thatis support, we can end the gridlock that is holding our country back, we can move forward together. Jeremy corbyn promised a relentless focus on the nhs if the labour party wins power. I do not blame the nurses, i do not blame the doctors, i do not lane the health service, i blame the government that has underfunded our nhs. The Shadow Health secretary apologises after being secretly recorded criticising Jeremy Corbyn and saying there is no hope of winning the election. Jon ashworth says he was just joshing winning the election. Jon ashworth says he was justjoshing around. Winning the election. Jon ashworth says he wasjustjoshing around. In new zealand, six people are now confirmed dead after yesterdays volcanic eruption. Among the injured are two british women. Aung san suu kyi defends myanmar at the International Court ofjustice over the treatment of rohingya muslims. More alarming news on Climate Change as Scientists Say greenland is losing eyes seven times faster than in the 1990s. Losing ice. Hello, and welcome to look ahead at what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With many other political commentator and former labour Party Director of communications lance price and the assistant comment editor at the Daily Telegraph, madeleine grant. Great to see you both. Many of the pages are already in. As we enter the final day of campaigning. Its no surprise the papers centre on the election. The guardian says both borisjohnson and Jeremy Corbyn are set to embark on a frantic final 2a hours of campaigning as they fight to sway undecided voters in what they called the most important election in a generation. You are indeed looking at the times and let me tell you what it is saying, its leading with the news that the final yougov pole of the election shows the Polling Company has cut the number of mps they believe make up are likely tory majority to 28 but they highlight the predicted range of seats means that a Hung Parliament is a possibility. Where next . The guardian, ive already told you about that but why not tell you about that but why not tell you about it again . Theyve said but borisjohnson about it again . Theyve said but Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn about it again . Theyve said but borisjohnson and Jeremy Corbyn i said to embark on a frantic final 2a hours of campaigning. Lets move onto the mirror and that has an interview with the father of jack merritt. No, the telegraph, keeping us on our merritt. No, the telegraph, keeping us on our toes. The telegraph leads with the news that borisjohnson is set to pledge that there will be heavier sentences for terrorist, sex offenders and violent criminals if he is re elected. Where to next . This is the mirror and that has an interview with the father of jack merritt who died in the London Bridge terror attack and he says he feels Boris Johnson bridge terror attack and he says he feels borisjohnson saw his sons debt as an opportunity to score some points in this election. I think we will leave it there and just talk to lance and madeleine about the papers. It might be safer. The pm pledges to get tough on serious criminals. This seems to be Boris Johnson appealing to the tory heartland. There is a bit more to it than that. Hes been talking about exit virtually every day but he is also looking at swing voters because people who are going to decide how they are going to vote on brexit have made up their minds already. The focus is very much on those who havent yet made up their minds and his votes are still up for grabs and crime is a very important issue and its not just an crime is a very important issue and its notjust an important issue in the old tory heartland, its an important issue in traditional labour areas as well and you may remember the old tony blair slogan, mild boss, tough on crime, top on the causes of crime and is a bit of this in more borisjohnson is saying to the telegraph and that he is talking about getting tough on criminals but also putting a lot more money into youth clubs and things to try to vent crime from happening in the first place by giving younger people in particular reasons not to get involved with criminals. I suppose the context of this as well, madeleine, is the Early Release of the serial rapist Joseph Mccann who went on to commit further crimes and usman khan, the London Bridge killer. Does that feed into this announcement . I dont think so because my understanding is that this actually precedes both of those events. This was in the manifesto set up for the London Bridge attack and before the sentencing of Joseph Mccann, bridge attack and before the sentencing ofJoseph Mccann, those two cases are certainly reminder of the need for a sense of sanity in sentencing, really. The fact that both of these perpetrators were released early, automatically, that will strike many people is a perversion ofjustice, particularly because many people are not aware that these sentences are being doled out when the conviction is given, it never occurs to them it would be any less than that. Its certainly feeding into the political environment and a genuine public desire for a bit more tough on law and order, basically. Lance, why focus on crime rather than brexit . Orare we to focus on crime rather than brexit . Or are we to look at the photograph on the front page of the Daily Telegraph which is borisjohnson at the wheel of a jcb digger ploughing through a wall with the word deadlock on it. Its a curious metaphorfor brexit, deadlock on it. Its a curious metaphor for brexit, to deadlock on it. Its a curious metaphorfor brexit, to build your own wall and knock it down and some would say that has been the problem with the tory policy on brexit but people who are going to vote on brexit have made up their minds and thatis brexit have made up their minds and that is why crime is an important issue, its a swing voter issue and it goes to British Values that they wa nt it goes to British Values that they want the country to be kept safe and he will be trying to strike a difference between him and labour because he will be suggesting that Jeremy Corbyn whatever he says about crime is more likely to be soft on criminals than he is. That would mean that trope ofJeremy Corbyn being a threat to national security, has real residence resonance in these traditional heartlands. The Daily Telegraph, conservative supporting and we are in no doubt who the sun is supporting. Dont trust marxist labour, boris ticks all the boxes. The sun the sun says back boris. It always picks a winner, the sun. It has real form in this and as britains bestselling newspaper, its packing a punch but im not convinced, there is often some debate about the reach of the newspapers in shaping Public Opinion and im not convinced any newspaper is that level of mind control that is sometimes attributed. Their constituency, the readership, and thatis constituency, the readership, and that is what the sun the sun has gone for here. Do you agree . I wrote a book partly about all of this and i dont think there is any evidence that a single paper including the sun despite the influence it claims has ever swung an election, even in the tightest election. Has ever swung an election, even in the tightest electionlj has ever swung an election, even in the tightest election. I thought the sun wot won it. Were going back to 1987 and the sun wot won it, and the tory victory then. But not all this but not all the suns readers are tories and its patronising to think that ordinary people who read the sun are going to be influenced by how it tells them to vote and a lot of people will make up their own minds, not from reading the paper. The metro. I look like a right plonker. Im not talking about myself or you, im talking about the shadow help secretaryjon ashworth secretly recorded saying he expects his party to lose the election. He says it was just banter. His party to lose the election. He says it wasjust banter. Its a terrible excuse, if i got caught slapping off my boss, i dont think id get very far with that but its curious because this particular leaked phone call plays directly into the conservative hands, and it seems to be writing the torys attack lines for them and several other newspapers including the sun says its a big news that are shadow minister has confirmed many of the conservative slogans when it came on Jeremy Corbyn but the curious thing about this also is the fact that it may actually in some ways help the tories because what is essentially saying, sorry, it may hinder the tories because what he is saying it is game over forward Jeremy Corbyn and the last thing that want is that level of complacency among the natural voters if you catch my hips. Im not quite clear about this story, lance. Idont im not quite clear about this story, lance. I dont know if youve been doing more research into it. Hes having conversation with somebody he thinks is a friend and this friend licks the conversation and he says they were justjoshing about. Thats the essence of it. Yet here we are, right at the wire, the so called friend, clearly not really a friend, greg paper, ithink so called friend, clearly not really a friend, greg paper, i think is a tory activist in kent, records the phone call. Greg paper greg baker. A phone call of 11 minutes, gives it to a website so poor old jon ashworth. Full disclosure, ive known him for the best part of 20 yea rs, known him for the best part of 20 years, he is a very decent chap. Hes been stitched up. Listening to the tape which has been made available as well obviously, it sounds like the authenticjon ashworth. It clearly wouldnt have wa nted ashworth. It clearly wouldnt have wanted this to be all over the papers, he certainly it certainly wasnt deliberate but it may have some benefit to the labour party in the sense that there are people may be prepared to vote labour if they are confidentJeremy Corbyn isnt going to become prime minister. Which may sound a strange way of going into the ballot box. I think that happened in 2017 and again this year. What hes saying is highly reflective of a large swathe of opinion in the labour party. We forget it was only in 2016 that labour mps by forget it was only in 2016 that labourmps bya forget it was only in 2016 that labour mps by a huge forget it was only in 2016 that labour mps bya huge margin forget it was only in 2016 that labour mps by a huge margin voted no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn labour mps by a huge margin voted no confidence inJeremy Corbyn in labour mps by a huge margin voted no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn in the la st confidence in Jeremy Corbyn in the last few months, watching the convulsions going on as labour mps attempted to justify the man they clearly dont trust or support yet are still campaigning to get into number10. Earlier in are still campaigning to get into number 10. Earlier in the week we had a piece in the telegraph about how very small number proportion of labour leaflets actually feature Jeremy Corbyn in any way, shape or form so its highly consistent with a wide swathe of opinion. Jonathan is one of the few people who survived the shadow cabinet and has done so by being loyal toJeremy Corbyn until now. He was advising those who decided to challenge Jeremy Corbyn that it was the wrong time to do it. What should the moderates in the labour party have done . Some are standing as liberal democrats, it will be interesting to see if any of them when. Where they write to leave or stay . Win mag. It is pretty damning stuff. He says Jeremy Corbyn is seen as a threat to national security. In the event of a Jeremy Corbyn premiership, they will try to deny him access to the levers of power. What is interesting also about the selection, there are plenty of people in the conservative party who have reservations about borisjohnson. Two party who have reservations about Boris Johnson. Two Leaders Party who have reservations about borisjohnson. Two leaders who divide opinion, it is fair to say. In the times, this is a yougov poll which says it cant be likely Boris Johnson majority to 28. We have to say, this is only one pole but how significant is that . It is only one but it is more than just one because it isa but it is more than just one because it is a very large bowl and it is not simply an opinion poll. This is multilevel regression and stratification. Of course it is. You did not need me to tell you. It ta kes you did not need me to tell you. It takes everything from the grassroots up takes everything from the grassroots up and looks at every constituency. A lot of intelligence on the ground and analysis done by experts as well as polling. The reason why every political in the land will be looking at this very, very closely is it predicts seat by seat. What it thinks is going to happen. Is it predicts seat by seat. What it thinks is going to happenm makes a prediction only two days out from an election and it is the one pole plus that got it right into thousand 17 which is another reason people will look at it very closely. 2017. People will look at it very closely. 2017. Some senior tory at risk. And the environment secretary. Tony blairs old seat could go conservative. People will look at those seeds closely. The activist on the ground but also gives information to people who want to vote tactically. Either to deny borisjohnson vote tactically. Either to deny Boris Johnson majority vote tactically. Either to deny borisjohnson majority or to stop Jeremy Corbyn getting into number 10. It is not fact, not guaranteed, but an awful lot of intelligence which is pretty good intelligence in two ways out. There is an error in all poles. Yes, of course. They say themselves that the margin of error is ranging from the doris winning 311 seat 367. Is ranging from the doris winning 311 seat 367. At is ranging from the doris winning 311 seat 367. At the bottom and we are in Hung Parliament territory. Still a great deal to playful. They do better at what Jonathan Ashworth was saying. Wanting that the labour party could find themselves winning canterbury and losing other seeds that belong to them. The tories are predicted to lose workington, this totemic seat of this imagine traditionalists labour, eu sceptic voter that they must win in order to balance it out. The top line from it is that, on exactly the same methodology from two weeks ago, it is down to a majority of 28. It shows, however you look at it, the poles are narrowing. It suggests, they have got it wrong before. Johnson ready to shake up overseas aid if he wins vote. I had not come across this before but is it basically saying the department for International Development will be taken over International Development will be ta ken over by International Development will be taken over by the Foreign Office . And if so is that significant . Taken over by the Foreign Office . And if so is that significant7m was always the case until 1997 that those two departments were merged and he would be planning to go back to that kind of model and i suspect the rationale behind it may be partly to detain to tie in the two departments. One example might be he would make the giving of foreign aid conditional on a countrys strategic objective. There has been talk about making that giving money to pakistan conditional on the protection of prosecuted christians. Two try to turnit prosecuted christians. Two try to turn it into a more streamlined and politicised body. This this put the department for International Development budgetary risk . |j department for International Development budgetary risk . I think it isa development budgetary risk . I think it is a very, very bad idea. It has been a Successful Department since it was set up and at the crucial thing about having it separate from the Foreign Office is it has its budget and can determine how to spend it and the priority is very clearly set out and it is about helping the worse off around the world and, to their credit, the conservatives agreed to stick to the 0. 7 of gdp and that is also in the tory manifesto that if it is assumed into the Foreign Office, already they have started cutting away at it. Some of it goes to what might be perceived as trade related spending. Some of it might be spent maintaining embassies abroad. The priorities of the Foreign Office might be more significant and increasingly so. I think it is a very bad thing. It is something we should be proud of that it has been the standard of department with a budget of its own. I would just like to turn to the guardian. The picture on the front page of aung son suu kyi, the de facto leader of myanmar. Appearing to listen. It was extraordinary, to these really graphic account of alleged genocide in myanmar, at the Uns Highest Court and if you look at this and you think, she is a nobel prize winner, ten years ago we were holding her up as a beacon of human rights. Exactly. It is quite a solitary lesson to continue to Pay Attention to our venerated and chosen few. She has been lauded as a beacon of human rights and, of course, the fall from grace has followed but it is not the same time that the committee have audited ever since Henry Kissinger and the bombing of cambodia. She is going to stand up for her country. She is basically a politician. I was lucky enough to be in myanmar seven years ago andi enough to be in myanmar seven years ago and i was at the mandalay festival and i was almost as close to her as i am to you and she was com pletely to her as i am to you and she was completely awe inspiring and her serenity and calmness and dedication to her country shine through them and that was before she came to power. She is a politician. Her father was president , he set up the Burmese Armed forces she is now defending or will be defending tomorrow. She clearly believes she is doing the right thing from a country but looking from the outside it is hard to understand. It will be a striking and dramatic day at the Un Highest Court in the hague. A sombre note to an but thank you so much stock that is it for the papers. Dont forget you can set the front pages on line on our website. Seven days a week. If you miss the programme an evening, you can watch it later on the bbc iplayer. Thank you again to my guests and thank you for watching. Until the next time, goodbye. Good evening. The latest from the bbc Sports Centre. Liverpool defeated salzburg to keep the hope of defending the Champions League title alive. A huge amount still a sta ke title alive. A huge amount still a stake in the final round. Flashing red light meant danger to liverpool. The feed might not the champions out. Haaland should, with sirens. One europes most ruthless finishes, liveable should consider that a warning. A panicky case. A blow of chances. Blink and you would miss it, and mo salah did. Mo salah left speech less. Imagine the relief when sadio mane drew up the keeper and drew out keita. He was played for salsbury. Mo salah bursts free to d efy salsbury. Mo salah bursts free to defy geometry. The chances are missed forgiven and forgotten in a moment of acute brilliance. Liverpool through, no alarms and no surprises. Chelsea are through, beating lille 2 1 with a nervy finish. Are they considered another, they would have been out. Torrential rain and west london. A win and chelsea would be through to the knockout stages. This was a good start. Just as he did the last time, Tammy Abraham put chelsea ahead early on. While the weather might have abated, chelsea did not. Loic remy applied pressure. One goal would have knocked chelsea out. The la ke would have knocked chelsea out. The lake come back a little too late. Chelsea joined liverpool in the last 16. The former chelsea manager ancelotti has been sacked as manager of napoli despite his side reaching the knockout stages. A statement confirming his departure after their win. He has been linked to arsenal and everton. Jim smith, who has died at the age of 79. He took charge of nine clubs but will be best remembered for spells in charge of oxford, and derby leading the latter to promotion in 1996. We managed a total of nine clubs across the legs ina career total of nine clubs across the legs in a career which spanned 49 years asa in a career which spanned 49 years as a player and manager. Rovers and natalie are well has died at the age of 29. She was one of the clubs longest serving players. In a statement they said they thoughts are with her young daughter and family at this sad time stop pakistan cricket captain has thanked sri lanka for returning to the country a decade after a fatal attack on the team bus which brought an end to tours there. Government ambush the two a coach living people dead and six players injured. They have sent played in the middle east. Should a complaint in an limited overs match. The security might an historic moment for both teams. That is all from the bbc Sports Centre for now. You are watching bbc news, inafew for now. You are watching bbc news, in a few moments we will bring you the Northern Ireland Leaders Debate with Noel Thompson but first the main stories. Borisjohnson Boris Johnson warned borisjohnson warned workers in staffordshi re borisjohnson warned workers in staffordshire of a Hung Parliament if voters do not support the conservatives. Meanwhile Jeremy Corbyn promised a relentless focus on the nhs if the labour party winds power. The shadow cabinet minister Jonathan Ashworth has apologised and insists he wasjoshing Jonathan Ashworth has apologised and insists he was joshing around when he told a tory friend there was no way labour could wind the election. This evening Jeremy Corbyn gave him his full support. A doctor from romford has become guilty of sexually assaulting 23 female patients. 50 year old manish shah carried out invasive intimate examinations. He was acquitted of five other charges and will be sentenced in early february. Six people are known to have died and eight are missing presumed dead following mondays volcanic eruption in new zealand. Two british women are among the injured. Dozens of tourists were on the island. About 30 have serious burns. And lets join Noel Thompson for the Northern Ireland Leaders Debate. It is the final run up to the general election and on thursday we are back at the polls

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