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Five vigils for the victims of the London Bridge attack are held in london and cambridge. The Prime Minister, labour leader and the mayor of london remember the victims by observing a minutes silence. The girlfriend of jack merritt attends the service in cambridge, where both victims went to the university. Friends and colleagues have paid tribute. He was inspiring. He had a bright light in his eyes. And he was a young kid, but he was a cambridge grad, so he could have been anywhere, done anything. Well have more on the vigil and the political row over sentencing and the conditions under which offenders are released. Also this hour the American Woman who says she was brought to britain to have sex with Prince Andrew urges the British Public to stand beside her. He knows what happened, i know what happened, and theres only one of us telling the truth, and i know thats me. Released from Police Custody the paranoid schizopherenic who went on to kill three pensioners. The point of no return a Climate Change warning from the un as leaders say the crisis is imminent. And misery for rail passengers as workers on South Western Railway begin a 27 day strike. Its five oclock. Our main story is that the Prime Minister borisjohnson and the labour leaderJeremy Corbyn, along with the mayor of london, sadiq khan, havejoined a vigil to honour the victims of the stabbing attack at London Bridge last week. Saskia jones, who was 23, and 25 year old jack merritt were stabbed to death by usman khan, a convicted terrorist whod been released from prison on licence. He was then shot dead by police. Andy moore reports. At the guildhall in london, friends of saskia jones and jack merritt came with flowers to remember theirfriends. Britains political leaders also came to pay tribute. We stand in silence once more, following the atrocity on London Bridge last friday. Our city, vibrant and alive, yet threatened with death. Let us keep silent and remember. The brief service was inclusive of all faiths. Let us pray for all faithful muslims grieving at such acts taken in the name of their faith. The mayor of london spoke for the people of the capital. The best way to defeat this hatred is not by turning on one another, but its by focusing on the values that bind us, to take hope from the heroism of ordinary londoners and our emergency services, who ran towards danger, risking their lives to help people they didnt even know. Bell rings. In cambridge, a similar vigil was held. It was attended by leanne obrien, Jack Merritts girlfriend. They had just been on holiday together to celebrate his birthday. Tributes have also been paid to saskia jones, described by her friends as a determined, ambitious woman, who funded her studies at cambridge by working at mcdonalds. Usman khan got a Second Chance and saskia didnt. That is it. She was just the most perfect soul and she is gone. There will be more acts of memory to come. This was only the first, for two young academics who came to celebrate rehabilitation but found only danger. Andy moore, bbc news. Bryonn bain had worked with one of the victims, jack merritt, and was giving a workshop inside fishmongers hall on friday when the attack took place. Hes been speaking to our special correspondent lucy manning about what he saw. Iran down and saw the scene unfolding there. And i was able to see the attacker, i was able to see. You know, i saw people die, and i saw things that im never going to be able to unsee. Folks were pushing back at the door. He was swinging knives at the door, and so, yeah, the men who ran down first went and actually, you know, engaged him at the doorway, and fought to keep him out, and thats where all the shouting was coming from. And so there was a struggle from inside the building, outside the building. And i only realised afterwards that one of my colleagues, someone i had recently met, but for months and months since i had been planning to come to cambridge and oxford, university of london, the organising work that had been done was done by one of the first people who was attacked, and who ultimately, by the end of the day, passed on. And so, he was brave in his own regard. He was the first line of defence. He was the first person to confront him at the door. This is jack merritt . Yeah. And so, i want to honour him. You talked about jack a bit. What were your dealings with him . How did he come across . He was inspiring. He had a bright light in his eyes, and he was a young kid, but he was a cambridge grad, so he could have been anywhere, done anything with his privileged education. And he chose to spend most of the last day of his life, the day before we spent together, at watmore prison. Imean. The whole. To see these things and to never be able to unsee them is something im going to hold onto for the rest my life. Usman khans release from prison on licence has led to a political row over sentencing and the conditions under which offenders are released. The bbc has learnt khan was assessed as being one of the lowest priorities for further investigation by mi5 when he left prison a year ago. Thejudgment was made in part because khan was being let out with a strict set of licence conditions, theoretically providing considerable monitoring and oversight opportunities. Our Legal Correspondent Clive Coleman reports. Remembering the tragedy of London Bridge. Among the carnage that day, there was extraordinary bravery. Lukasz pulls off the wall this long stick. He charges towards the bad guy and he impacts him on the chest. The second fatality, named yesterday, saskia jones. Young, bright, committed to social justice. Emotions are raw. She was fearless. She was a warrior. She was going to change the world. Maybe she will. The attacker, usman khan, benefited from a period from 2008 to 2012 when prisoners classified as dangerous and placed on so called extended sentences were automatically released on licence halfway through their custodial term. Today, a damning assessment of government and prison measures to de radicalise and prevent attacks by convicted terrorists. In a bureaucratic organisation that is highly resistant to change, very secretive, and has a kind of arrogant and delusionary belief in its own expertise, that kind of chaos if you like, or that kind of revolving door of political masters is very useful if you dont want to do anything. Both main parties have responded to the London Bridge tragedy. The Prime Minister borisjohnson has said that he wants to end automatic Early Release for terrorist prisoners, but what is actually in the conservative Party Manifesto . Serious and violent criminals in prison for four years or more will have to serve two thirds of their sentence before release, that is up from half. 20,000 more Police Officers in england and wales. And 10,000 extra prison places. So what aboutJeremy Corbyn . He does not believe that ending automatic Early Release for terrorist prisoners will combat terror. He wants a criminalJustice System that is fit for purpose. Labour also wants more Police Officers 22,000. It wants to restore prison officer numbers to 2010 levels. Theres been a 9 drop since then. He also wants to review the prevent and protect programmes, which combat extremism and protect the public. All of the Political Parties have, in one form or another, said they would invest the criminal Justice System but can the threat from convicted terrorists ever be eliminated . You absolutely cannot just sentence your way out of this problem by locking people up for longer and longer periods. You have to use the time they are in custody, year after year, to work with them and ensure that supervision on release is fit for purpose, and it is not at the moment. You also have to recognise that there is always going to be some risk. However good prevention becomes, the uncomfortable truth is that we will all have to live with some level of threat for the foreseeable future. Clive coleman, bbc news. Im joined now by criminal justice consultant and former prison governorjohn. What strikes you most about the debate we are having on sentencing and on the possibility of rehabilitating those who have been convicted of terrorist offences . think out of respect to jack and saskia, we shouldnt be having it one of the words around sentencing. This is not a sentencing issue. That is more than enough on the statute books now to deal with a serious and violent offenders, and if this man had served another three years and said, then it would havejust delayed his horrific attacks by another three years. Unless you are going to sentence everyone who has been convicted of a terrorist offensive to a whole life tariff, it is about how you manage to people in prison and into the community. And at the moment, the prison and probation system, i dont think, has adequate resources on adequate expertise to deal with the problem. This is certainly in terms of the kind of incidents we have seen of extreme islamist terrorist attacks, that problem has now been with us for well over a decade, not far short of 20 years now. People might be surprised that, apart from extra toughness, as it were, and the criminal Justice System, Jack Merritts father, and an article for the guardian there even has said he wouldnt want the use of his case, as you say, for political purpose. The world for we do not lock up and throw away the key. But if we are not going to do that, i do say that an extra three years perhaps wouldnt have made any difference to attitudes of mr khan, wouldnt have it in radical item or solve the problem, what then is the purpose, evenif problem, what then is the purpose, even if you have it manage the process . Even if you have it manage the process . What are you managing people towards . Well, we should be having interventions in prison that deal with the issues, just as we do with sex offenders, or with drug and alcohol. We need to look at de radicalisation. That is much more difficult than dealing with lots of other offences, and it means it is about until cooperation, about looking about what is going on a roundabout. This is itjust a problem and the uk, it is across europe, and across the world. Lots of jurisdictions europe, and across the world. Lots ofjurisdictions are europe, and across the world. Lots of jurisdictions are trying europe, and across the world. Lots ofjurisdictions are trying to come to terms with it. My concern is that, as Ian Aitchison said, the english and prison system in isolation. It has de radicalisation problems. I dont know much about them, not many people do. I dont know whether they were, and i dont know whether they were, and i dont know whether the Prison Services knows how they work. Clearly, this man was not de radicalised after eight years, and i dont think another two years but have made much difference. I think we need an urgent review into what programmes are going on. The other examples you give, we have programmes and mechanisms for trying to address offender behaviour and causes of offender behaviour and causes of offender behaviour, whether it is addiction, whether it is disorder of abuse, that people cant manage your angen abuse, that people cant manage your anger, and that they have an attitude towards women of which leads to sexual violence, those things, the evidence is, partly hit and miss process and sell. Some of the work for, some they dont, but the work for, some they dont, but the real thing. In the case of terrorist, be clearly dont want people to reoffend, and therefore the question im trying to get to, perhaps not very elegantly, is what is the alternative if we dont have a mechanism that changes peoples behaviour . To have any other choice than locking them up for ever longer periods . Well, lets look at reality here. Theyre figured locking people up, throwing away the key indeterminate sentences for all life tariffs, they are still having to be managed and said the prison system. And the robbie within the present system will be a rest. There is no alternative to trying to find mechanisms, interventions, that will reduce the risk. But it is also about managing them within the prison system so that they are not going to continue with the radicalisation. The very least we should do is stop de radicalisation continuing and getting ever worse. But part of the problem with the de radicalisation programmes, and indeed with sex offender programmes, they are not properly evaluated. The prison system has a Treatment Industry which operates in total sequencing, and i and a number of others for a long time have said, what were doing with all prisoners, particularly terrorist offenders miss we need to re evaluate the programme that they are being placed under. And they need to, if they are not working, we need to know. We need to look at Something Else stop but we simply cant ignore the problem. The only alternative. There is no alternative. We have to continue looking at what once, and there will be occasions when nothing works. If nothing is working, we have to contain, but we have to contain them safely and constructively, because there are many thousands of people tasked with looking after them, and we have to reduce the risk to them as well. That is a very serious appointed to end on. Thank you very much. Lets speak to our Political Correspondent iain watson. I wanted to quite a bit more from that article, i think it is already online. He described her son as a breathing fire. He will be seething at his death and has now been used to perpetuate an agenda of hate, that he gave it everything fighting again. And his father is very critical of the world but we do not he would want a world where we do not lock up and throw away the key, where we do not slash prison budgets, and we focus on rehabilitation, not revenge. I mean, by has a judgment, by hasjudgment, we have failed. That is very clearly hasjudgment, yes. We have failed. That is very clearly has judgment, yes. He we have failed. That is very clearly hasjudgment, yes. He had already said ina hasjudgment, yes. He had already said in a couple of tweets that he didnt want to see hassans death politicised, didnt want it used as quotes for vile propaganda. What is interesting as a contrast between 2017 after the London Bridge attacks, there was a suspension of campaigning. In 2016, during the referendum campaign, when a jo campaigning. In 2016, during the referendum campaign, when ajo cox was moderate, again, a suspension of campaigning. From a David Merritt was my point of view, it seems like politicians are rushing and two judgment this time round, and he is very keen that her son is kept away from that. I think what again surprised when people is the swiftness with which the Prime Minister talked about sentencing. He did that in a second interview on friday night, he seemed to warm to his theme over the weekend. And then labour, for their part, sought to put the blame on government cuts to the Probation Service and Prison Service over the past nine years, since they left office. The Prime Minister was actually asked about his tone since the London Bridge attacks when he was on a Campaign Stop in southern england today, and this is what he said. I feel, as everybody does, if you do mentor sympathy for the loss of a Jack Merritts family, and indeed for all the relatives of Jack Merritts family, and indeed for all the relatives ofjack and saskia. But be no doubt, have campaigned against releasing but short sentences for many years. It was in my manifesto in 2012 when i was made of london. I said in august, and it is in the queens speech. In fact it is in the queens speech. In fact it isa is in the queens speech. In fact it is a bill be got ready to go and the queens speech to stop automatic Early Release for a serious and violent Early Release for a serious and viole nt offenders. Early release for a serious and violent offenders. Interestingly, a change in style from the Prime Minister, less robust, perhaps, but not a change in substance. He said he is campaigning against ed elyse since 2012. There is no mention in the 2012 manifesto and Boris Johnsons manifesto at the time, although he doesnt talk about longer custodial sentences for criminals guilty of gang violence. Automatic Early Release was ended in 2013 anyway, and borisjohnson certainly told before the current general Election Campaign talked about widening ending this for a larger group of prisoners. He does have some form and the issue, but i think some of his critics are worried how quickly he went to that. Today, Jeremy Corbyn wants to move the agenda back to the nhs. I think the agenda back to the nhs. I think the conservatives will feel much more secure when they are on the issue of crime. Thank you very much. An American Woman who says she was brought to britain aged 17 to have sex with Prince Andrew is urging the British Public to stand beside her. Virginia giuffre has told bbc panorama she was trafficked for sex with the prince by the wealthy sex offender, jeffrey epstein. Prince andrew says he can absolutely and categorically say it never happened. Virginia giuffre has told bbc panorama she was trafficked for sex with the prince by the wealthy sex offender, jeffrey epstein. Prince andrew says he can absolutely and categorically say Virginia Giuffre has already made allegations that have created a crisis for the royal family. Allegations that have created a crisis for the royalfamily. In her first interview for british television, she describes being trafficked to london byjeffrey epstein on a private jet in 2001, and then being introduced to Prince Andrew. She says the introduction was made by epstein, and has then girlfriend at her london home. The old waited went to a nightclub. Prince andrew says he has no recollection of what she describes. She says room she remembers him. He asked me to dance. He is the most hideous dancer i have ever seen in my life. I mean, it was horrible, and theres a guy was sweating all over me. Like, has a sweat was raining everywhere. That wasjust like, i was grossed out from that. But i knew i had to keep them happy, because that whatjeffrey would have expected from me. When they left the club, Virginia Giuffre said Glenn Maxwell instructed her to have sex with Prince Andrew. Later that evening, upstairs, she said she did as she was told. In an interview with the Bbcs Newsnight programme last month, the prince said he can absolutely and categorically say its never happened. Asked about a photograph that appears to show him with his arm around Virginia Giuffres waste in a maxwells, the prince said he didnt recall the photograph ever being taken, and questions whether it was his hand in the picture. But in the interview for bbc panorama, which was recorded before the newsnight interview, Virginia Giuffre says that Prince Andrew cannot be telling the truth. People on the inside are going to keep coming up with these ridiculous excuses, like the photo was doctored, archie came to new york to break up withjeffrey epstein. I mean, come on. Im calling bs on this, because thats what it is. He knows what happened. I know what happened, and there is only one of us happened, and there is only one of us telling the truth, and i know thats me. Buckingham palace has responded to her interview, saying the duke of york emphatically denies having any form of sexual contact of relationship with virginia roberts, and that any claim to the contrary is false and without foundation. But Virginia Giuffre says she is now calling on the British Public to support. I am for the dissidents in the uk to stand up beside me, to help me fight this fight, to not accept us as being 0k. Help me fight this fight, to not accept us as being ok. This is not some assorted sex a story. This is a story of being trafficked, this is a story of being trafficked, this is a story of being trafficked, this is a story of abuse, and this is a story of your guys royalty. The six life, judgment and honesty of a Senior Member of the royal family is under the microscope. He has already been asked to stand down from public life, but the questions about his conduct wont go away. And you can watch the full Panorama Programme the prince and the epstein scandal on bbc one tonight at 9pm. Lets take a look at some of todays election news. Sinn fein have launched their election manifesto. Speaking at the event in londonderry, the partys president Mary Lou Mcdonald explained why she believed this election was the most important for years. This election is, as has been said, the election of a generation. You know, thats notjust rhetoric. Thats the truth of it. Because brexit has changed everything for all of us. It has had the effect of uniting improbable allies in the face of real threats to peoples livelihoods, to our rural communities. Labour has pledged to cut train fares by a third and introduce free rail travel for under 16s if it wins the general election. The proposal is part of broader plans to nationalise the network. And the leader of the snp, nicola sturgeon, has defended her argument for a second independence referendum during a bbc phone in. She also said the party had an opportunity to try and stop Boris Johnson. I think borisjohnson winning this election would undoubtedly make the case for independence even stronger, but the point i was going to make, i dont want these bad things to happen. I didnt want brexit to happen. I dont want borisjohnson to be in downing street. And weve got an opportunity because in scotland, the snp is the challenger in every single tory held seat so we have got an opportunity next week, on election day, to play our part in trying to stop borisjohnson. The un secretary general has warned that the world is almost at the point of no return when it comes to Climate Change. Speaking as leaders gather in madrid for two weeks of talks, Antonio Guterres said the Climate Crisis was imminent and that it was essential that countries commit to more ambitious carbon cutting targets. Last week, the World Meteorological 0rganisation said the level of Greenhouse Gases in the atmosphere had reached the highest level on record. 0ur global science correspondent Rebecca Morelle reports. There are warnings that the world could be at the point of no return. In africa, millions are facing hunger after cyclones and droughts. Its been a year of extremes, and scientists warn if temperatures keep on going up, there will be far worse to come. Now negotiators from 200 countries are gathering to begin two weeks of climate talks. Its the 25th round of this un meeting, where they are thrashing out the details of the plan to stop Global Warming. But the window to act is closing. Let us open our eyes to the imminent threat facing us all. Let us open our minds to the unanimity of the science. There is no time and no reason to delay. We have the tools, we have the science, we have the resources. Let us show we also have the political will that people demand from us. To do anything less will be a betrayal of our entire human family and all the generations to come. Here in madrid, the fate of the planet is under intense discussions. The un has already said we should try and keep Global Temperatures from rising above 1. 5 degrees to stop the worst effects of Climate Change. But this will mean drastic cuts to Greenhouse Gas emissions. It will require sweeping changes to the way we live, from using Renewable Energy instead of fossil fuels, to shifting to electric cars and making our homes more energy efficient. But there are warnings that nations are not going far enough. There are definitely things that individuals can do, from really checking how much meat you are consuming to whether an in country flight is really necessary, taking the train more, not using your car. But the reality is that a lot of the big stuff needs to come from governments. An individual can make a decision about purchasing an electric vehicle, but they cant lay down the infrastructure that would actually allow you to use it. So it really needs to be that combination of a whole of society push. On her way to the talks is 16 year old Greta Thunberg. Shes sparked a Global Climate movement, with millions of young people taking to the streets. They say the world needs to act on climate now because it is their future that is at stake. And later this hour, well be hearing live from the conference and discussing what needs to be achieved with two climate analysts. Hundreds of thousands of commuters in southern england are facing weeks of rail disruption after members of the rmt union on South Western Railway began a major strike. They will take part in 27 days of industrial action, lasting until new years day. Passengers have been warned that only around half of services will run, including those to and from london waterloo, the countrys Busiest Railway station. 0ur transport correspondent tom burridge is at Waterloo Station this evening. It looks relatively calm, but presumably, in part because fewer people will have been venturing in this morning that might normally be the case. I think so. A couple of seconds ago, there was a massive crowd, and the gate opened, and they streamed through. Undoubtedly on two very crowded carriages. This network, as is the case on other parts of the ruby crowned britain, is incredibly crowded, so i think people are going to be facing it more uncomfortable commute home that normal. I think, more uncomfortable commute home that normal. Ithink, we more uncomfortable commute home that normal. I think, we went out this morning on some trains, and it was bad. For some people, morning on some trains, and it was bad. Forsome people, ithink morning on some trains, and it was bad. For some people, i think they struggle to get onto some trains, they had to wait for another, but i dont think we have seen any evidence that there has been widespread disruption. The Train Company has seen it to mitigate some of the disruption as much as possible. Thank you very much. Now its time for a look at the weather, with stav danaos. It looks like fog is going to be a bit of a problem across parts of england and wales the next couple of mornings. That is because we have got High Pressure in control. That will slowly slip away, taken dry weather with it, and then until the end of the beat, and tonnes more u nsettled. End of the beat, and tonnes more unsettled. But melter for us all. The blue colours indicate where it is going to be quite cool. Something rather piercing and to the north of the country. The rain across parts of scotla nd the country. The rain across parts of scotland should attend to clear away overnight, and there will be a dry night for most, and the clear skies are going to turn cold here. Maybe 8 lidc and rural spots across the site is, and murdered by the end of the night across the north west of the night across the north west of scotland. Freezing fog, quite dense in places. Watch out for this. It could linger on, lifting and to look out. There will be plenty of dry weather, with sunny spells are run. Better sunshine for eastern scotland, and quite breezy and melt here, but a chilly day to come elsewhere. This is bbc news. The headlines mourners in cambridge have held a vigilforjack merritt the American Woman who says she was brought to britain to have sex with Prince Andrew urges the British Public a man who killed three elderly men because he wrongly believed they were paedophiles has been cleared of murder. As two weeks of talks on Climate Change begin in madrid, the un secretary general says the world must end its war against nature. Disruption for thousands of rail passengers as workers on South Western Railway begin a 27 day strike in a dispute over guards on trains. Sport now, and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre, heres 0lly. Good evening. In just a few hours time well find out the winners the mens and womens world footballers of the year. Lionel messi and Cristiano Ronaldo have won it a record five times each. Liverpool fans will be hoping this man might steal the prize, defender virgil van djik. Hed be the first defender to take the honour in 13 years. In the womens category, englands lucy bronze is nominated. Arguably the best right back in the world, she won the treble with her club lyon last season. Usas Megan Rapinoe is also a strong favourite she won the world cup in france with the american team. Brendan rodgers has distanced himself from the vacant maangers post at arsenal. Hes the bookies favourite to replace unai emery who was sacked on friday. The leicetser city boss let slip over the weekend that he had a release clause in his contract with the foxes. I have a contract until 2022 here. Thus far, and i know managers are losing theirjobs, but the club have not indicated to me they are going to sack me, i think they are pretty happy with how we are working. Like isaid, im happy with how we are working. Like i said, im very happy so i have no need to look elsewhere and i think logic would tell you, and i know sometimes this gossip and speculation is not always logical, but why would i want to leave Leicester City at this moment in time . The Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola say that Sergio Aguero definitely wont play in the Manchester Derby this weekend the argentine striker suffered a thigh injury in the match against chelsea last month and hasnt recovered fully. Guardiola says aguero wont be ready in time to face Manchester United at the etihad this saturday. He was speaking at his press Conference Ahead of tomorrows match against burnley he was asked about their struggles in defence this season and his continued selection of fernandinho at the heart of their backline. 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Theres been a shock at snookers uk championship, where world number onejudd trump has been knocked out. He was beaten in the third round by the veteran nigel bond, whos ranked 98th in the world. 54 year old bond, who reached the 1995 World Championship final, was 3 1 down in the match, but won five successive frames to take it six frames to three. He is the man of the moment and it was just. He is the man of the moment and it wasjust. Im 5a he is the man of the moment and it was just. Im 5a what i he is the man of the moment and it wasjust. Im 5a what i doing . Laughter i played some good stuff. Robert took some time to settle but once i settled i felt good robert took some time to settle but once i settled ifelt good out there. Thats all the sport for now. I will be back at 6 30pm. Unlike football managers, you can rely on 0lly still being here in anothers time. I hope so more now on the Climate Summit that has opened today in madrid, and the warning from the head of the United Nations that rapid and deep changes are needed to combat Global Warming. Antonio guterres said humanity faced a stark choice between reaching what he called the point of no return, or following the path of hope. 0ur global science correspondent Rebecca Morelle is at the talks in the spanish capital and joins us live. Good evening, as it is already in madrid. Can you give us an idea of what they hope for what achievements are from this because we already have a very broad set of targets but we dont necessarily have the tools to implement these targets . Thats right. That is the big issue today here at the Climate Conference which really cut off with a bit of a buying at the beginning, the warnings that the window of opportunity is closing very quickly. The fact the time to act is now and governments are not really stepping up, their targets for cutting Greenhouse Gas emissions are not high enough. Under discussion here, this is the 25th round of these un meetings, that gives you an idea of how long youve been going on, negotiations are quite slow here. On the discussion over the next few weeks will be at the Paris Agreement of 2015 where the un basically said we should try and keep global temperature rises below 1. 5 celsius. To stop the worst effects of Climate Change. Also on the table is talk of money, is there enough money for Climate Action to help countries do this . Poorer countries are some of the worst affected by the impacts of Climate Change and they want there to bea Climate Change and they want there to be a formal mechanism in place to try to help them. Help them when these impacts hit. Also, we have the big characters here point Greta Thunberg is going to be arriving in lisbon tomorrow and coming across to the conference. She sparked so many schoolchildren taking to the streets to call for Climate Action, donald trump is not here, he is in the uk. Last month he started formal action of pulling out of the Paris Agreement. Everything is to play here in madrid and it will be fascinating to see how all of this plays out but what is a big is the sense of urgency coming from the outside world. There is never really been a bigger sense of pressure and urgency to a meeting like this. Rebecca, in madrid, thank you. Lets discuss this with lisa fischer, a senior policy advisor at the Climate Change thinktank, e3g and bob ward, policy and Communications Director at the Grantham Research institute on Climate Change and the environment at the London School of economics. Thank you for coming in, welcome. Huge number of people in madrid which at least reflects how current to this debate is and how much governments want to be involved in making the decisions. How much of that would you say is defensive, that would you say is defensive, that they dont want to end up in a situation where they feel they are doing too much and letting other countries off the hook . The main thing here is these delegates meets every year, this is an ongoing process and this year is critical in trying to finish off the so called paris rule book which is a set of ways of implementing the crucial Paris Agreement that everybody signed up to in 2015 we are starting on an absolutely critical year where countries are expected over the next 12 months to bring forward revised pledges for national action, more ambitious. We already know what is currently on the table is not sufficient to limit Global Warming to safe levels and they are supposed to put on the table revised and more ambitious pledges ahead of the next summit taking place in glasgow this time next year. Its important to also observe the shift happening, increasingly many countries are seeing it is in their self interest to act on climate, in china, for example, combating coal coincides with protecting Peoples Health and lives. But we are not there yet and quite a lot governments need to do to think about what happens if we do not act and what does that mean for a citizens lives. They what it would be some countries look that if other countries dont act then we will end up even tougher targets than the rest of us have to meet and that is when you might encounter a bit of popular resista nce encounter a bit of Popular Resistance in the sense people dont feel there is a fairness to how this process is carried out. How do you address that furnace question, is it fair, for example, countries that arejust becoming to fair, for example, countries that are just becoming to the first rank of development and status, who are getting to the stage of doing all the industrial things weve done for the industrial things weve done for the past 200 years are told, sorry, you cant do that, we decided. We had the benefits, you wont get the opportunity. I think the debate has moved on a little bit because the impacts of Climate Change are visible around the world and poor countries recognise they are most vulnerable to these impacts of the argument is not we should matter, it is they expect, rightly, in my view, the rich countries do more because mainly they have historic responsibility for the emissions and also they are rich enough to take action, notjust at home but also support action abroad. In terms of practical measures you can persuade people to adopt, even if National Governments in the usa dont do it, cities and states have quite a lot of power as well, is it possible to get that public buy in for these kind of actions which may come at a personal price to individual voters and consumers and producers of goods and services . I think the us example is one that shows where the problem of Climate Action lies. Cities and states in the us are taking action because we have the technologies and ideas and solutions, it is a political problem. There is a responsibility on governments to think this through and take the first steps and also of course to support people in making the right choices. For example, food choices, should be go vegetarian or vegan, that is a live debate in the uk. Governments have the responsibility to support people in making the right choices but also in terms of energy choices, how do they heat their homes, this cannot only be taken on by the individual. There is a good example in the uk, the chancellor of the exchequers budget speech earlier this year when he spoke about setting a date beyond which it will not be possible to put in boilers that people have relied on for 90 years in this country as the way to heat many homes, suddenly that will be gone and that is a government decision and that will come at a cost. It requires investment but older viewers will remember youth to have something called town gas, they all methane that came out and the country had a national upgrading programme. That is what we need now because people can see he does well we are having an impact of Climate Change, flooding, record heatwave this summer. People can see it is happening and they accept there has got to be an upfront investment which will have long term returns. They want it to be fair, they dont wa nt to they want it to be fair, they dont want to see, im doing my bit, but companies are not doing their bit. They also want the us to start acting and i think it will be hard for people to think this week if borisjohnson does for people to think this week if Boris Johnson does not tackle for people to think this week if borisjohnson does not tackle donald trump abbott Climate Change. Thats an interesting conversation tackle donald trump about Climate Change. We are leaving the structures of the European Union but what has happened within europe within that the way of sharing the burden . I assume youre referring to whats happening in france and the yellow vest protests that happened after president macron introduced rises in carbon prices, fuel prices. To make fuel for cars and vehicles more expensive. Its important to look at the context. Before he cut income taxes too if you look at the furnace across the system of course people react and think thats not fair, we are cutting income taxes on one hand but bearing the burden of higher costs of consumption. We have to look at it. In the uk next year we have an opportunity, looking in Government Spending and talking carbon budgets so there is a real opportunity to bring those conversations together and make it fairall conversations together and make it fair all across. Thank you both very much for coming to speak to us this evening. I know you will be following events with great interest perhaps we will get the chance to speak again. A paranoid schizophrenic who killed three pensioners in frenzied attacks has been cleared of murder by reason of insanity. A jury at Exeter Crown Court had to decide whether Alexander Lewis ra nwell, who is 28, did not know it was against the law when he killed the three men. Chris dilley reports. Release this gentleman. This is Alexander Lewis ranwells second release from custody, but were Key Opportunities missed to stop his killings . Alexander lewis ra nwell was first arrested on the 8th of february after breaking into farm buildings and releasing animals. His First Release was in the early hours of the saturday the 9th. His first violent attack came later that morning, shortly after 8 30am. He wandered onto another farm brandishing a stick and four foot saw. 82 year old john ellis came out to help his wife after seeing her struggle to protect their livestock. I shouted to her get the police, quick, there is trouble. Read he was trying to kill me, quite definitely. He made off, but he was soon arrested in nearby fields where he was found walking without his shoes. He was brought back here into custody, where his behaviour was described as bizarre. He urinated in cells, tried to steal a taser stun gun and claimed to have lost his unicorn. Police felt he represented a risk to the public if released. They called Mental Health professionals who did not attend in person. But they and a Police Doctor who did see him in person did not recommend he was sectioned. Instead, he was released pending further inquiries. I said, what . He tried to kill me. I thought there was a good chance that he would come back and finish the job. After the second release, he made his way by taxi and bus to exeters st davids station. He was captured on camera at 12 30pm outside anthony paynes dilapidated house. It seems this note calling for accommodation for the 80 year old resident and his cat attracted him. Anthonys friend keith found the body. I checked his pulse. I knew he was dead. He was captured on camera again a short time after claiming his first life. Inside he killed 84 year old twins dick and roger carter with a spade he took from their garden. The violence would eventually come to an end here in Exeter City Centre in the early hours on february 11th, but not before a final confrontation at this hotel. When he was refused breakfast, he turned violent. He was standing on the other side of the door and with a big butcher knife. I was saying to myself i dont know what is going on but i need to do something. Despite receiving a head injury he fended Alexander Lewis ra nwell off. If you make the same mistake and your mistake causes people to die. The people die for nothing, it could be stopped. A jury has decided that Alexander Lewis ra nwell was not responsible for his actions. His surviving victims want to know whether others could have stopped him. The headlines on bbc news mourners in cambridge have held a vigilforjack merritt and saskia jones, both killed in the London Bridge attack. The American Woman who says she was brought to britain to have sex with Prince Andrew urges the British Public to stand beside her. A man who killed three elderly men because he wrongly believed they were paedophiles has been cleared of murder. Women and girls should be able to get hold of emergency contraception more easily, without having to consult a pharmacist, according to a report by the Royal College of obstetricians and gynaecologists. They say the morning after pill should be sold straight off the shelf like condoms. 0ur Health Correspondent Dominic Hughes reports. For many women, the morning after pill has been an important form of emergency contraception. But at the moment, you need to have a consultation with a pharmacist or doctor before you take it. And for some, that has been a difficult conversation, leaving them feeling embarrassed orjudged. I think i took the morning after pill first of all when i was 16 years old. I definitely was in school uniform, because i remember that. And i was really intimidated by it because i had heard that you had to have this consultation with a pharmacist. So i ended up taking two of my friends with me. Todays report says that when it comes to taking the morning after pill, consulting with a pharmacist remains a good idea. But that women and girls should be able to buy the pill straight off the shelf, just like you can with condoms. And that needing a consultation shouldnt be a barrier to accessing emergency contraception. The Royal College of obstetricians and gynaecologists says a Record Number of abortions in england and wales last year shows women are struggling to get the right advice and access to services. So many women are finding it very difficult to access basic needs, contraception, cervical screening, we just want to make it easierfor them. Theyve got lots of other things to do in their lives and we need them to get on and do that rather than fighting a system which is unfortunately, a very Good Health Care system, but the way we have commissioned it at the moment often means that you or i will have difficulty getting some very basic maintenance checks done swiftly. And for those like rose stokes, good education around contraception plays a key role. I think its a really good idea to make it more accessible, particularly because i think it puts a lot of young women off because it is quite an intimidating process as it is. But i think if we were going to do that, we would need to ensure that there was greater education around how to take it and how to make it most effective. This report calls for the creation of a network of one stop Womens Health clinics to provide specialised care. Doctors believe that too many barriers exist between women and access to the best health care. Dominic hughes, bbc news. Commuters are facing large delays ahead ofan commuters are facing large delays ahead of an rmt strike. Schools and nurseries were closed. The gas supplier have said within the past our homes have started to reconnect homes. A spokesperson said they hope to represent every home represented by the gas network. Margate, on the kent coast, was once a prime seaside resort but like many towns fell on hard times thanks to cheap foreign holidays and some areas have suffered real deprivation. But could that all be about to change . The town is hosting britains best known art competition the turner prize thanks in part to a huge influx of artists who have made margate their home and are helping to bridge the Cultural Divide between some communities, with a rather special after school club. David sillito reports. Welcome to margate, and the reason im here . Not the gallery, or the beach, but an after school club. So, they said an art school. Um, meet by the lollipop, and im guessing thats the lollipop. Meet the despacito art group. And this, the round up. And it all began when a group of artists moved to the area, and the kids in the street wanted tojoin in. They seem quite enthusiastic. Yep how did this all happen . Basically, we used to be in that building over there when we first moved in 2017, and they were all knocking. Off the road, please no, no, no off the road. Thank you. They were knocking on the door, asking what we were doing, being really curious and interested. And obviously, were an art school, so it felt only natural to set up an art school for this lot. So theyjust knocked on the door . Literally knocked consistently on the door and they were screaming through the letterbox, let us in, we want to do art the background to this, margates Booming Community of artists. Even the old woolworths has been taken over. And then theres the other margate. Cliftonville is one of the most deprived neighbourhoods in britain. Its also very diverse. Sorting out the parental permissions for this filming was quite a job. Czech, slovak, russian, polish, bulgarian, and then obviously english. So six languages in one form. So you speak three languages, dont you . Yeah, four. Four . english english. Czech. Czech, slovak. Gypsy. And gypsy. And the reaction to this new population . These streets have been a focus of some uncomfortable attention. Theres been conflict. But in the art group, its fun and its safe. There are strict rules, and its a place for quiet, private conversations with some friendly adults. The stuff they tell you, theres a lot going on in these young lives. And no one bullies you here . Cos theres rules. And at the end, its back to the fun stuff showing off the artwork. This is dmitris upside down water droplet. Its all part of the water cycle. With river, leaf and tree. You know, its evaporation and. And all that stuff. These conversations matter. Margate is changing fast, and new arrivals always bring new issues. But at least 0pen school east is a place to talk it over. Financial and parental responsibilities prevent the kids from doing other activities, so were their one guaranteed outcome they have, where they can come, be creative, have an outlet, let off some steam, but we also talk to them about life and discuss things with them. All bye, david see you soon and with that, it was goodbye to children of the despacito art club. David sillito. Walk like a human thank you. Bbc news, margate. And the winner of the turner prize will be announced live from margate on the bbc news channel at 9. 30pm tomorrow. Now its time for a look at the weather. Good evening. It has been largely dry today across england and wales, some cloud and sunshine which compensated for a cold feel. As we move deeper on in the week things turning more unsettled with High Pressure breaking down and low pressure breaking down and low pressure taking over. My elder for all by the end of the week. Blue wrapped in this High Pressure which is what the cold feel across much of the country. This weather front bringing wet weather to parts of scotland, gradually clearing this evening. 0vernight it should be largely dry. More cloud, more of a breeze across the north west, further south it will be another cold one. Frost and dense fog patches forming across the midlands and southern and south east england could see the worst of it. Freezing fog possible as well likely to cause a disruption to roads and possible airports. We start off with the fog across southern and south eastern areas, summer sunshine, variable cloud but cloudy for parts of western scotland and Northern Ireland. More of a breeze here. 10 celsius also in stornoway but surely elsewhere despite sunny spells. High pressure continues to slip away into the continent although light winds for the south and east meaning another foggy day across the south east corner. That could cause some issues and lifting into low cloud. Some sunshine. Scotland and Northern Ireland will see a weak weather front, fizzling out as it moves eastwards. Behind its showers and sunshine. Another chilly one here. As of the front moves through we look forward to this area of pressure bringing stronger winds and also outbreaks of rain. Very wet throughout thursday in parts of scotland, especially western scotla nd scotland, especially western scotland and gales arriving throughout the day. Breezy whenever you are. Further south and east a better chance of staying dry with some sunshine. Temperatures creeping into double figures for many. Turning more miles on friday up and down the country and staying mild into the weekend for england and wales, cooler across the north. Vigils are held for those killed and injured in fridays attack at London Bridge. The girlfriend and family of 25 year old jack merritt join mourners at a service in cambridge. In london, political leaders gather to pay tribute. An eyewitness to the attack remembers the courage of those who tried to stop it. It felt like a war zone, it felt like total chaos, but these guys stepped up in the moment and, you know, did what few you would do, and put their own lives in harms way. Well be looking at how usman khan was free to attack and how it could be prevented from happening again. Also tonight. The woman who claims she was trafficked for sex with Prince Andrew asks the British Public to stand by her. This is not some sordid sex story, this is the story of being trafficked and this is the story of your royalty. Released from Police Custody the paranoid schizopherenic

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