Transcripts For BBCNEWS Victoria Derbyshire 20240713 : compa

BBCNEWS Victoria Derbyshire July 13, 2024

Two of amelias best friends are here to talk to us about it. And well be speaking to rap duo krept konan, who have spoken out about Mental Health, their new album and calls to ban drill music. Hello. Welcome to the programme. Were live until 11 this morning. Do get in touch on all the stories were talking about use the hashtag victoria live. First, carrie has the news. Mothercare says it plans to call in administrators for its uk business, putting around 2,500 jobs at risk. The baby goods retailer says its British Stores are no longer profitable enough, losing more than £36 million in the Financial Year to march. Mothercare says its 79 stores will continue to trade as normalfor the time being. Mcdonalds has fired its chief executive after he engaged in a romantic relationship with an employee. The american fast food giant said the relationship was consensual, but all relationships between managers and subordinates are against company rules. Mcdonaldss said steve easter brook demonstrated poorjudgment. Lewis hamilton is celebrating his sixth formula one world title after clinching the championships in the United States grand prix. Second place was enough for the british driver to wrap up his third title in a row. Hes now the second most successful f1 driver of all time and needs to win just one more championship to match Michael Schumachers record haul of seven. Health bosses in england have urged politicians not to use the nhs as a political weapon during the lead up to the general election. The National Heath service is set to become a key Battle Ground during the campaign. Nhs providers, the organisation which represents health trust leaders, has warned parties not to make empty promises or create Unrealistic Expectations over funding. Mps will elect a new speaker of the house of commons today, following the retirement ofjohn bercow. Order order mr bercow stood down last week after ten years in the role. Therell be a vote in parliament to decide his successor this afternoon. The eight contenders include the Current Deputy speaker, Lindsay Hoyle and former deputy Prime Minister harriet harman. The last leader of the soviet union has warned that tension between russia and the west is putting the world in colossal danger because of the threat of Nuclear Weapons. Mikhail gorbachev was speaking to our moscow correspondent, steve rosenberg, to mark 30 years since the fall of the berlin wall. Translation all nations should declare, all nations, Nuclear Weapons must be destroyed. To save ourselves and our planet. Now back to victoria. Thank you. The parents of harry dunn, who was killed after being knocked off his motorbike are today urging the Crown Prosecution Service to bring charges against Anne Sacoolas, the American Woman who was behind the wheel of the car that killed him. Northamptonshire Police Confirmed on friday that they had passed on their evidence to the cps and are now waiting to see if Anne Sacoolas will face charges. She left the uk claiming diplomatic immunity after the accident and so far, us authorities have ruled out extraditing her. Harrys parents have started legal action against the Uk Foreign Office and Northamptonshire Police and are also planning to sue Anne Sacoolas and the Trump Administration. Lets talk now to harrys pa rents Charlotte Charles and tim dunn and to their lawyer radd seiger who is in the us. I want to ask you, if you feel you are getting any closer to justice for you son . Yeah, we do. I think it is baby steps all of the time, but we are getting closer. It feels like things are moving in the right direction in comparison to where we we re direction in comparison to where we were a few weeks ago. We are just going to keep trudging along with it and carry on doing everything we can. There is one newspaper today, the the guardian, reporting that british and american officials have begun talks to explore the possible extradition of Anne Sacoolas. Do you know anything about that, do you know anything about that, do you know if that is true. No, the same as you, we see it this morning in the papers. We havent been told anything official about that. The interview that Northamptonshire Police have done with Anne Sacoolas, has been passed to the Crown Prosecution Service and youre waiting to see if they will bring charges, how confident are you that they will press charges . charges, how confident are you that they will press charges . I think they will press charges . I think they have got to, with the evidence that we know about, as a family, with the cctv and with her admitting twice to police, i cant see how there cant be charges brought. There is so much evidence geps her. Against her. Do you agree . Yes there is lots of evidence and it would be ludicrous not to bring charges when there is that much evidence for the Crown Prosecution Service to see. If charges are brought, what happens then, does that mean automatically Anne Sacoolas comes back to the uk, it is volu nta ry . Sacoolas comes back to the uk, it is voluntary . We assume it is volu nta ry. Voluntary . We assume it is voluntary. A court date would be set. It is voluntary for her to attend. If she didnt, we hope an extradition order would be applied for. But of course President Trump could still say no to that. So we are keeping ourfingers crossed could still say no to that. So we are keeping our fingers crossed that she volunteers to come back so the police dont have to put in the extradition order. When you went to the white house, at the time, President Trump said there would be no extradition. Yes. Yes, well. Robert obrien said that she would never return to the uk when we was in there. It was a strange meeting, because they tried to set up this meeting with ann that we didnt know about. We wanted it to be done properly. You still stand by the decision . Yes, you know for her sake as well as ours and her children, you cant possibly be thrown into a room unexpectedly with the feelings that we have got, the feelings that shes probably got, just isnt right. It is just completely the wrong setting. We didnt even know we we re wrong setting. We didnt even know we were seeing him until we got there. So we dreamt up all different scenarios we could face and we thought of most ludicrous one and it turned out to be the case. We said no matter what pressure they put us under we knew that wasnt the right setting. Donald trump spoke to lbc last week and he said he would look at all the facts before make a decision on whether Anne Sacoolas should be extradited. Does that sound positive or not . It is positive in the fact that harrys still in his mind. Tim certainly feels that way. With all the things the president has going onf feels that way. With all the things the president has going on f he still has time to talk about harry and the case, im still hopeful that it is in his mind, he must be thinking of the solution. Hopefully the right one to send her back. Let me bring in yourfriend, your spokesman on occasion. Tell us about the action to sue the Trump Administration and Anne Sacoolas, what is the thinking there . So thank you, so the first one, the claim against Anne Sacoolas is a perfectly standard claim that any family would bring, it is what you would call a personal injury claim to claim compensation. That is a standard one. The unprecedented claim, which is occupying most of my week here in washington, is suing the Trump Administration for what we are calling lawless misconduct and flouting of International Conventions and rules and laws in relation to diplomatic immunity. It is clear to everyone now that Anne Sacoolas never had diplomatic immunity. She should never have been allowed to leave. I cant think of a single Government Agency involved in is in that has covered itself in glory and in fact the opposite. We are intent, oryour glory and in fact the opposite. We are intent, or your parents there are intent, or your parents there are intent, or your parents there are intent to expose that misconduct and we believe there is a cover up. I think you know the parents are well aware that this started off as a campaign to getjustice for harry, but the more we have lifted up the rocks and crawled under, the more we have smelt a rat. We havent caught the rat yet. But with ecan hear it and we are going to catch it. When you say you smelled a rat, what do you say you smelled a rat, what do you mean . Well, look, just very simply, it cannot ever be right that someone simply, it cannot ever be right that someone who is involved in a serious collision, a serious crime, that somebody is then just you know Spirited Away back to the United States to leave this family devastated like that. You dont need to bea devastated like that. You dont need to be a lawyer to understand that is not right. So the Trump Administration in pulling this family back, attacking britains right as a sovereign nation to impose its own laws on visitors in the uk is what this is all about. It is absolutely unthinkable what this administration did and im told here this is perfectly standard behaviour for this administration. But you know what they didnt bargain for was tim and charlotte who are very principled, dignified people, who believe in right and wrong, as did harry and they have crossed the line with this. Decision that they made and we are going to expose it. Charlotte, tim, youve also reported Northamptonshire Police, your local force, to the police watchdog. How do you think they have handled this . Poorly so far. Why do you say that . We have had very, very little contact with them. Their dates for waver and stuff they have requested over the nine weeks dont add up with the dates we have been given and what the government are giving us. And what the government are giving us. Nothings quite right. We were told by the police that there was a less tha n told by the police that there was a less than i told by the police that there was a less than 1 chance of getting a conviction at the beginning of our campaign. We just dont think thats right. They have just wanted us i think to go away quietly and accept this diplomatic immunity that we. Didnt really believe she had. Never believed it. Never believed it back then and we still dont now. Just then and we still dont now. Just the contact with them has been really poor. We were due to have a couple of meetings with them. We chose to capsle cancel one the day after the press conference, with the chief constable. It happened on our programme. Yes, because which were hoping to get some answers from him at the meeting. And we had an e mail saying that no answers would be given. He is only coming to express his condolences. That was seven or eight weeks too late just to have his condolences expressed. We had no idea of the press conference he had done and we were surprised when they said they were going over to interview her under caution at her request. And also shocked that we would bow down and our taxpayers money would pay for them to go to the United States to do that. She should have been brought back here for that to have been done. There was so many things thatjust done it add up. Things that arent right. Was so many things thatjust done it add up. Things that arent rightm has been poor. The communication has been poor. And there was the tweet that he tweeted that upset us. He tweeted that your action against Anne Sacoolas for civil damages was sad but predictable. He deleted that not long after. What did you think of that . Well, itjust makes it feel a bit personal, because we are questioning what the police are doing, to me it feels like it he doesnt like what we are doing so he has made it personal. I think that is not very professional of him to do that. We are only asking questions that any parents would ask. Absolutely. We have many m essa 9 es ask. Absolutely. We have many messages that we receive for you. James says, i wish the family success and. Alex says, i dont know where this mum and dad get their strength to fight without giving themselves time too grieve. I would have fallen apart first. How are you doing it . For harry really. Because we feel there is so much wrong doing and we need the truth. To be out before we can grieve. There is so many. There are so many things that are not right. We need the truth. We cant grieve until we have the truth. And you know, for the sake of harrys legacy and everyone else that this could possibly happen to, we couldnt live with ourselves if it happened again and we hadnt tried. 100. To do something. That is where we are getting our fight from. Thank you both very much for come on the programme. Still to come we speak to friends of the backpacker Amelia Bambridge who drowned in cambodia who, along with her family have been devastated by photos of her dead body being shared on social media. And mobo Award Winning south london rappers krept and konan will be here to talk to us about their second album, running a restaurant and whether drill music should be banned. Dont weaponise the nhs. Thats the message from the Health Service to all Political Parties ahead of the december election. The organisation that represents nhs trusts in england has called for greater honesty about the failings of the service and for realistic proposals on how to tackle them instead of empty promises of cash to win votes. Heres just a couple of examples of statements political leaders have made about the nhs that havent quite stacked up. Borisjohnson made this pledge in september. Actually what were committing to is a programme of 14 new hospitals, starting with six. A0 hospitals sounds great, but its not true. There will not be a0 new hopsitals. The plans include specific investment to upgrade six existing hospitals over five years, and the further 3a hospitals again, which already exist are sharing £100 million in funding. Thats just under three million each not enought ot build one brand new hospital. And what about this from Jeremy Corbyn . Gp numbers are falling, there is a 43,000 nurses shortage in the nhs and its suffered the longest spending squeeze ever in its history. This is true in the sense that between 2010 and 2018, the nhs budget rose by around i. 3 , whereas the average annual rise since 1919 has been higher than that, at around 3. 6 a year. But, last year, more money was announced that will bring the annual increase over the next five years to 3. 4 . Lets talk now to saffron cordery, deputy ceo of nhs providers. What is it that you want over the next six weeks from politicians . As we go into the election, we want to make sure that there is more light than heat in the election debate. We know that its very easy to weaponise the nhs, which is very close to evens heart and we want to see the best for the nhs. But what we wa nt see the best for the nhs. But what we want to see is real real is tick, proposals. We dont want to see big claims that wont come true and we dont want to see announcements that will demoralise the nhs and we dont wa nt will demoralise the nhs and we dont want people saying how bad the nhs is on the front line when we have loyal, hard working is on the front line when we have loyal, ha rd working staff, is on the front line when we have loyal, hard working staff, going into nhs services trying to do their best. In in order to make a promise, dont you have to point out what the reality is at the moment . You do have to point out the reality. Why thatis have to point out the reality. Why that is weaponising the nhs . What we need to see is a situation where we see the problems and we see the Solutions Coming side by side and we need to recognise what our hard working nhs staff are doing. That is the challenge. What we dont want to see is the publics confidence in the nhs being undermined and staffs confidence being under mineded. We wa nt to confidence being under mineded. We want to see fully costed and debated solutions, rather than overblown and overannounced situations. Solutions, rather than overblown and overannounced situationsm Political Parties are going to keep up Political Parties are going to keep up with demand in the nhs, do you know how much they should be promising to spend each year . What ever got o to see is an open and honest debate about how we want to fund our nhs. What we have got to do is see politicians look at the overall direction of the nhs, how they want to run it, what they think needs to be the investment in the nhs. Does that mean taxes going up o National Insurance going up or a different way of running our nhs. Those are the big conversations that we want. We asked trust leaders how they felt about the level of deba

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